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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Story in the news from last night. Group of teenagers
shot at and then a drive by shooting. One of
them was hospitalized. Fourteen years old. Overall my beloved west
Side broad in Eureka. Hand up. The police did go
get the guy. I mean, they had a good description
of the car, a yellow car that kind of stood out.
They had a plate number as well. Detectives determine the
(00:22):
incident was indeed a drive by shooting. Gunfire directed to
a group of teenagers that were walking down the street.
After reviewing all the video, the flock cameras came into play.
They had plate readers led to the identification of eighteen
year old Jorge Valdaz, good Irish Catholic boy. I'm sure
(00:43):
Valdez was driving a yellow Toyota Hatchback. Officers located shortly
after eleven PM at the Raccoon Creek apartment complex. I
used to live there a long time ago. They were
on Plane Tree Drive in the complex. They watched the
police officers watched three individuals entered the vehicle. Officers jumped
(01:04):
into action, detained the individuals. Empty handgun, holster, visible plane
view front passenger compartment. According to the court documents, court
documents also say Valdez told the Texas listen, now, listen
to this. Valdez told the detectives that he had had
the vehicle all evening. He admitted to driving in one
(01:28):
of the areas where the license plate reader placed the vehicle.
He denied being involved with the shooting and claimed, here's
the quote, a similar vehicle with the same license plate
was involved.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The likeliest of scenarios. How many times have you gotten
pulled over and they're like, this is your license plate?
And you're like, no, yeah, I guess three people with
the same license.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
There's all kinds of yell of cars out there with
this license plate number.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I mean, I don't doubt his story. Assuredly they let
him go. They didn't bother him with taking him down here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Now they had not so much. Detectives got a search warrant.
They executed that on the apartment that he'd been occupying
before he was detained. They recovered a forty five hand
gun from a bedroom. The gun was loaded with live cartridge,
similar manufacturer stamped at the forty five casing that was
recovered at the location of the shooting. Done, deal right, done.
This guy will probably get double triple super duper community control.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Oh he didn't even didn't even throw the gun, just
took it back.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Home with him. Valdez has been charged with three counts
of felonious assault, currently being held at the Franklin County Jail.
Authority continued the investigation into other potential suspects and witnesses.
I said a long time ago, when they started implementing
(02:52):
the shot spotter cameras, that this may become an issue,
and I think the bad guys are finally starting to
figure it out. Shot spotter says, okay, we've got shots
fired here, so police go there to see. You know, okay,
do we have the shots fire? What are you going
(03:15):
to do if you're out shooting up a neighborhood or
something and shot spotter is there. You're going to stay mobile.
You're going to get out of the area quickly. And
I said, you know, this may be a tool, but
it's not the be all end all, because quite frankly,
I think it will end up encouraging drive by shootings.
(03:35):
So here we have one and as I said, with
Columbus's current record Yesterday's story convicted convicted in a twenty
twenty four homicide gets community control. Crazy woman stops traffic,
causes multiple vehicles to reckon, then drives off nicely. She
gets a fifty dollars fine and what a six month
licensus pension till January. Yeah, this is just I don't know, man,
(03:59):
we are so bizarre. A World FOP Lodge number nine
President Brian Steele. He is always available and always on
my TV every time I turn on the TV news.
There he is. What a good looking beard the man has,
Brian Steele, How are you, buddy?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah? Out standing? How are you, Chuck?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, I'm not in jail, but then, of course I
haven't done anything. But when I do, I still won't
be in jail. Brian.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, you know, the chances are you're gonna give a
sweetheart deal and send them back to the street.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I'm glad that the police department as a whole, and
you know, through the voice of the FOP as well,
is finally you know, saying this is just getting stupid.
What's the point in you guys doing it? I said
it yesterday. I admire respect and appreciate the people that
put on the badge and serve and protect every day,
but a lot officers have to be thinking, why the
(04:45):
hell am I doing this? Why bother I'm gonna take
him down, You're gonna send him right back out the
back door so they can do it again.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, And it's beyond the officer. It's the community. Now,
the community, the citizens will be served. They're saying, hey,
why are we wasting our taxpayer on you at forcing
the law and them getting picked out? Why why is
the person that I turned in because they were wanted
now kicked back on the street to reoffend. The community
is pretty loud right now and they're upset and they
(05:12):
should be. And at the end of the day, I
don't just advocate for cops. I advocate for the community reserved.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, this is also got to be detrimental to get
any kind of cooperation because I mean, who's what little
old lady who was peering out or blind and saw
the attack, the drug deal, whatever, What little old lady's
gonna say, yes, officer, I saw this when she knows
they're going to be right back out because at that
point now she's scared for herself.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And let's talk about domestic abuse. We talk about the
one of the rise of homicides and domestic abuse So
you have someone that calls the police as he or
she should, says, look, I'm being abused by my spouse,
my household partner, whatever it be. And the city attorneys
that client is recommending a five hundred thousand dollars bond
on a violet offender to keep them locked up, and
(05:59):
then judges are picking among low bonds right back out
with a piece of paper that says, hey, don't abuse
your spouse again. We've swung so far the wrong direction.
We have to get this back law and order established.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And let me say, because it's not often I have
anything positive to say about the prosecutor's office, but in
the case I was graping about yesterday, this twenty twenty
four homicide, as I understand that the prosecutor asked for
time and the judge who you can go meet tonight
at six pm. By the way, the judge decided on
(06:33):
community control. Is this a chance to align yourself perhaps
with some people in the prosecutor's office and is that
a pipe dream? Or is there some common ground here?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
No, no, we could do it. I could tell you.
So we have two prosecutor's office here, right, you have
the city attorney Zach Klein. He prosecutes misdemeanors and domestic
of violence. We are aligned with him, no matter what
issues we might have had, you know, in the past,
with him right now, and all I care about is
today we are locking step that we think if you're
a violent offender, a violent domestic abuser, you have to
(07:09):
be locked up now. The second part is the county
prosecutors shale of favor. I have great communication with this
shale of favor. We've discussed, we've met. We want the
same goal, we just maybe have different ways of doing it.
She believes in the transformative restorative justice. I believe if
you're a violent offender, recid of offender, there is no
(07:30):
rehabilitating you other than putting you for jail. But you
are correct in this one case they asked for jail
time and did not get it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
The idea that you know, as we talk about criminal
and assaults in domestic violence and so forth, this is
an even bigger issue for me, Brian, because you know,
I don't know if you heard yesterday, but I just
I blew my stack over this idiot woman that stopped
traffic on the freeway. She callsed all this havoc drove
away a fifty dollars fine. Really for leaving the scene
(08:00):
of an accident causing multiple cars to crash into each
other on an interstate through the city of Columbus, A
fifty dollars five. Again, you know, granted she's not out
there shooting up the joint, but that is detrimental to
society as well. When you can when you can get
out on the roads where we're all supposed to follow
the rules, follow the laws, and do something ridiculous like
(08:23):
that and walk away with a fifty dollars five, it
just I don't know what. Almost seems like the the
justice system is diametrically opposed to the common sense system.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
For me, Yeah, listen, the justice system is supposed to
be about accountability, and you heard me speak this week.
You know, a lady justice supposed to be blind, but
sometimes sometimes it appears that maybe she could see a
little bit. We have this kind of selective, selective accountability.
If you're a dedicated a law enforcement officer and you
make a split second decision and it's wrong, you're a
(08:54):
murderer and there's no mercy visa vi Adam cooy. If
you're a reciptive violent offender, and you shoot and murder
or somebody knowingly purposely, you get a sweetheart deal. I
just think the community's done and I'll be there tonight.
I'm leaving in about thirty minutes. I'm heading down to
the judge's form the community conversation. I'm part of this
community and I want to engage in discussion.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I unfortunately was not informed about it until last night.
There was no way I could get away. It's six o'clock.
What are they doing six to eight or something like
that at the library on Parsons Avenue.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Right, yep, that's right, that's right. And let me tell
you that the one judge that just released the individual
on community control. I know this judge well, it's a
respected judge, I mean, and I anticipate having a conversation
with her. And this is not personal. I mean, I
support this judge, but I want to sit down with
her and we will and just say, hey, how did
(09:44):
we get here and how do we move forward?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
This is her name's been publiged. It's Judge Juives the page.
That's who it is. But unfortunately, her name comes up
far too often when I'm talking about stuff that doesn't
make sense coming out of the court.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So and we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
To I, I'm not urging anybody to go down there
and be rowdy, be out of line or anything else.
But this is an opportunity if you want to go
down face to face and ask these judges what are
you thinking? Why are you doing this? Why are we thinking?
These people should go to jail and you're letting them out.
This is your opportunity to do so. And what is it?
(10:21):
Six judges?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It'll be there, yes, I think five judges and probation.
Probation has some of its own issues, which is overworked.
There's not many probation officers. They have so many cases.
There were some stories about how some probation area, some
people on probation fell through the cracks. Again, the hard
working mental women of the probation office. I understand they're
trying to do the best they can do, but some
(10:44):
things are not working.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I don't know if you want to say anything, you
don't need to say a thing that if you want
to say a thing regarding either Adamkoy or last hour
I was I was pontificating ing his twelve year old child.
And even making a big deal and pointing fingers and
so forth, and officers have so much on the mind
that unless the child gave some sort of indication there
was problems. It's perfectly understandable that they didn't necessarily that
(11:07):
one officer did not necessarily recognize a picture or description,
because all kinds of people, mats, are all kinds of descriptions.
It was a bad situation that ended, well, thank god
for that. But all this you know, your fault, your fault,
your fault crap is kind of getting all my nerves.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, so let's talk about that. This was not a
missing this was a runaway. This wasn't some child that
was abducted and the officers failed to do their basic duties.
This was a runaway who was in a car, clearly
in a car with some wrong people, which is why
the car was pulled over and individuals were arrested. Now,
if the officer failed to run the everybody in that
(11:42):
car for wants for warrants, like our policy says, then
that officer will be held accountable and will be recommended.
But this, if this mother is more offended that we
didn't run and find her runaway, well, little maybe she
should be more offended by what kind of lifestyle this
twelve year old's living. The people the twelve year olds
hanging out for, not the police.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's a ridiculous logical solution. Hey, when you go on
duty next time, watch yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I understand there's like four hundred yellow cars out there,
all with the same license plate number, and you need
to watch out for them because they're doing bad stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, listen, We're gonna all get through it, though,
But the support for the police is some of the
highest I've seen in a long time, So I do
think the pendulum is swinging back. I believe our community
realizes that police were never the problem. We were never perfect.
No organization is perfect, but we get it right to
the majority of the time. And I think it's now known.
(12:39):
The days of blaming the cops for all societies problems,
I think are gone.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I believe you are right, and I hope that is
a trend that continues, because heaven those we need it.
Brian Steele, President FOP Lodge number nine. Go out there tonight.
If anything interesting happens, be sure to let me know.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yep, absolutely, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We'll talk to you. Say again, sir,
Story in the news from last night. Group of teenagers
shot at and then a drive by shooting. One of
them was hospitalized. Fourteen years old. Overall my beloved west
Side broad in Eureka. Hand up. The police did go
get the guy. I mean, they had a good description
of the car, a yellow car that kind of stood out.
They had a plate number as well. Detectives determine the
(00:22):
incident was indeed a drive by shooting. Gunfire directed to
a group of teenagers that were walking down the street.
After reviewing all the video, the flock cameras came into play.
They had plate readers led to the identification of eighteen
year old Jorge Valdaz, good Irish Catholic boy. I'm sure
(00:43):
Valdez was driving a yellow Toyota Hatchback. Officers located shortly
after eleven PM at the Raccoon Creek apartment complex. I
used to live there a long time ago. They were
on Plane Tree Drive in the complex. They watched the
police officers watched three individuals entered the vehicle. Officers jumped
(01:04):
into action, detained the individuals. Empty handgun, holster, visible plane
view front passenger compartment. According to the court documents, court
documents also say Valdez told the Texas listen, now, listen
to this. Valdez told the detectives that he had had
the vehicle all evening. He admitted to driving in one
(01:28):
of the areas where the license plate reader placed the vehicle.
He denied being involved with the shooting and claimed, here's
the quote, a similar vehicle with the same license plate
was involved.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The likeliest of scenarios. How many times have you gotten
pulled over and they're like, this is your license plate?
And you're like, no, yeah, I guess three people with
the same license.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
There's all kinds of yell of cars out there with
this license plate number.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I mean, I don't doubt his story. Assuredly they let
him go. They didn't bother him with taking him down here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Now they had not so much. Detectives got a search warrant.
They executed that on the apartment that he'd been occupying
before he was detained. They recovered a forty five hand
gun from a bedroom. The gun was loaded with live cartridge,
similar manufacturer stamped at the forty five casing that was
recovered at the location of the shooting. Done, deal right, done.
This guy will probably get double triple super duper community control.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Oh he didn't even didn't even throw the gun, just
took it back.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Home with him. Valdez has been charged with three counts
of felonious assault, currently being held at the Franklin County Jail.
Authority continued the investigation into other potential suspects and witnesses.
I said a long time ago, when they started implementing
(02:52):
the shot spotter cameras, that this may become an issue,
and I think the bad guys are finally starting to
figure it out. Shot spotter says, okay, we've got shots
fired here, so police go there to see. You know, okay,
do we have the shots fire? What are you going
(03:15):
to do if you're out shooting up a neighborhood or
something and shot spotter is there. You're going to stay mobile.
You're going to get out of the area quickly. And
I said, you know, this may be a tool, but
it's not the be all end all, because quite frankly,
I think it will end up encouraging drive by shootings.
(03:35):
So here we have one and as I said, with
Columbus's current record Yesterday's story convicted convicted in a twenty
twenty four homicide gets community control. Crazy woman stops traffic,
causes multiple vehicles to reckon, then drives off nicely. She
gets a fifty dollars fine and what a six month
licensus pension till January. Yeah, this is just I don't know, man,
(03:59):
we are so bizarre. A World FOP Lodge number nine
President Brian Steele. He is always available and always on
my TV every time I turn on the TV news.
There he is. What a good looking beard the man has,
Brian Steele, How are you, buddy?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah? Out standing? How are you, Chuck?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, I'm not in jail, but then, of course I
haven't done anything. But when I do, I still won't
be in jail. Brian.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, you know, the chances are you're gonna give a
sweetheart deal and send them back to the street.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I'm glad that the police department as a whole, and
you know, through the voice of the FOP as well,
is finally you know, saying this is just getting stupid.
What's the point in you guys doing it? I said
it yesterday. I admire respect and appreciate the people that
put on the badge and serve and protect every day,
but a lot officers have to be thinking, why the
(04:45):
hell am I doing this? Why bother I'm gonna take
him down, You're gonna send him right back out the
back door so they can do it again.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, And it's beyond the officer. It's the community. Now,
the community, the citizens will be served. They're saying, hey,
why are we wasting our taxpayer on you at forcing
the law and them getting picked out? Why why is
the person that I turned in because they were wanted
now kicked back on the street to reoffend. The community
is pretty loud right now and they're upset and they
(05:12):
should be. And at the end of the day, I
don't just advocate for cops. I advocate for the community reserved.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, this is also got to be detrimental to get
any kind of cooperation because I mean, who's what little
old lady who was peering out or blind and saw
the attack, the drug deal, whatever, What little old lady's
gonna say, yes, officer, I saw this when she knows
they're going to be right back out because at that
point now she's scared for herself.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And let's talk about domestic abuse. We talk about the
one of the rise of homicides and domestic abuse So
you have someone that calls the police as he or
she should, says, look, I'm being abused by my spouse,
my household partner, whatever it be. And the city attorneys
that client is recommending a five hundred thousand dollars bond
on a violet offender to keep them locked up, and
(05:59):
then judges are picking among low bonds right back out
with a piece of paper that says, hey, don't abuse
your spouse again. We've swung so far the wrong direction.
We have to get this back law and order established.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And let me say, because it's not often I have
anything positive to say about the prosecutor's office, but in
the case I was graping about yesterday, this twenty twenty
four homicide, as I understand that the prosecutor asked for
time and the judge who you can go meet tonight
at six pm. By the way, the judge decided on
(06:33):
community control. Is this a chance to align yourself perhaps
with some people in the prosecutor's office and is that
a pipe dream? Or is there some common ground here?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
No, no, we could do it. I could tell you.
So we have two prosecutor's office here, right, you have
the city attorney Zach Klein. He prosecutes misdemeanors and domestic
of violence. We are aligned with him, no matter what
issues we might have had, you know, in the past,
with him right now, and all I care about is
today we are locking step that we think if you're
a violent offender, a violent domestic abuser, you have to
(07:09):
be locked up now. The second part is the county
prosecutors shale of favor. I have great communication with this
shale of favor. We've discussed, we've met. We want the
same goal, we just maybe have different ways of doing it.
She believes in the transformative restorative justice. I believe if
you're a violent offender, recid of offender, there is no
(07:30):
rehabilitating you other than putting you for jail. But you
are correct in this one case they asked for jail
time and did not get it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
The idea that you know, as we talk about criminal
and assaults in domestic violence and so forth, this is
an even bigger issue for me, Brian, because you know,
I don't know if you heard yesterday, but I just
I blew my stack over this idiot woman that stopped
traffic on the freeway. She callsed all this havoc drove
away a fifty dollars fine. Really for leaving the scene
(08:00):
of an accident causing multiple cars to crash into each
other on an interstate through the city of Columbus, A
fifty dollars five. Again, you know, granted she's not out
there shooting up the joint, but that is detrimental to
society as well. When you can when you can get
out on the roads where we're all supposed to follow
the rules, follow the laws, and do something ridiculous like
(08:23):
that and walk away with a fifty dollars five, it
just I don't know what. Almost seems like the the
justice system is diametrically opposed to the common sense system.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
For me, Yeah, listen, the justice system is supposed to
be about accountability, and you heard me speak this week.
You know, a lady justice supposed to be blind, but
sometimes sometimes it appears that maybe she could see a
little bit. We have this kind of selective, selective accountability.
If you're a dedicated a law enforcement officer and you
make a split second decision and it's wrong, you're a
(08:54):
murderer and there's no mercy visa vi Adam cooy. If
you're a reciptive violent offender, and you shoot and murder
or somebody knowingly purposely, you get a sweetheart deal. I
just think the community's done and I'll be there tonight.
I'm leaving in about thirty minutes. I'm heading down to
the judge's form the community conversation. I'm part of this
community and I want to engage in discussion.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I unfortunately was not informed about it until last night.
There was no way I could get away. It's six o'clock.
What are they doing six to eight or something like
that at the library on Parsons Avenue.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Right, yep, that's right, that's right. And let me tell
you that the one judge that just released the individual
on community control. I know this judge well, it's a
respected judge, I mean, and I anticipate having a conversation
with her. And this is not personal. I mean, I
support this judge, but I want to sit down with
her and we will and just say, hey, how did
(09:44):
we get here and how do we move forward?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
This is her name's been publiged. It's Judge Juives the page.
That's who it is. But unfortunately, her name comes up
far too often when I'm talking about stuff that doesn't
make sense coming out of the court.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So and we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
To I, I'm not urging anybody to go down there
and be rowdy, be out of line or anything else.
But this is an opportunity if you want to go
down face to face and ask these judges what are
you thinking? Why are you doing this? Why are we thinking?
These people should go to jail and you're letting them out.
This is your opportunity to do so. And what is it?
(10:21):
Six judges?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It'll be there, yes, I think five judges and probation.
Probation has some of its own issues, which is overworked.
There's not many probation officers. They have so many cases.
There were some stories about how some probation area, some
people on probation fell through the cracks. Again, the hard
working mental women of the probation office. I understand they're
trying to do the best they can do, but some
(10:44):
things are not working.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I don't know if you want to say anything, you
don't need to say a thing that if you want
to say a thing regarding either Adamkoy or last hour
I was I was pontificating ing his twelve year old child.
And even making a big deal and pointing fingers and
so forth, and officers have so much on the mind
that unless the child gave some sort of indication there
was problems. It's perfectly understandable that they didn't necessarily that
(11:07):
one officer did not necessarily recognize a picture or description,
because all kinds of people, mats, are all kinds of descriptions.
It was a bad situation that ended, well, thank god
for that. But all this you know, your fault, your fault,
your fault crap is kind of getting all my nerves.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, so let's talk about that. This was not a
missing this was a runaway. This wasn't some child that
was abducted and the officers failed to do their basic duties.
This was a runaway who was in a car, clearly
in a car with some wrong people, which is why
the car was pulled over and individuals were arrested. Now,
if the officer failed to run the everybody in that
(11:42):
car for wants for warrants, like our policy says, then
that officer will be held accountable and will be recommended.
But this, if this mother is more offended that we
didn't run and find her runaway, well, little maybe she
should be more offended by what kind of lifestyle this
twelve year old's living. The people the twelve year olds
hanging out for, not the police.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's a ridiculous logical solution. Hey, when you go on
duty next time, watch yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I understand there's like four hundred yellow cars out there,
all with the same license plate number, and you need
to watch out for them because they're doing bad stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, listen, We're gonna all get through it, though,
But the support for the police is some of the
highest I've seen in a long time, So I do
think the pendulum is swinging back. I believe our community
realizes that police were never the problem. We were never perfect.
No organization is perfect, but we get it right to
the majority of the time. And I think it's now known.
(12:39):
The days of blaming the cops for all societies problems,
I think are gone.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I believe you are right, and I hope that is
a trend that continues, because heaven those we need it.
Brian Steele, President FOP Lodge number nine. Go out there tonight.
If anything interesting happens, be sure to let me know.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yep, absolutely, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
We'll talk to you. Say again, sir,
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