Golf, Grilling & Minnesota - Monday, June 16

Mark & Chuck discuss Father's Day weekend + latest on Minnesota shooter.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mark Pleaser show, Man, I gotta get back to
work so I can relax again because you had so
much going over the weekend. This was opposite for me.
This weekend, I was like, I gotta go back, I
gotta actually, I gotta go do this again. And I
you know, dude, listen, you know, starting my thirty eighth
year doing this radio thing, you and I basically were

(00:21):
where the symmetry is there. It's like perfect, you know,
as far as you and I both got. And most
of the time, don't get me wrong, I'm still like
I even still kind of get nervous when I've had
a weekend off or if I've been on vacation. Sometimes
I'll still be like, man, I know how to do this. Still,
believe it or not. That still happens to us, even
when you've done it a million and fifteen times, you know,

(00:44):
like what we do now. I don't know that you
get that way. I'm not gonna speak for you, but
for me this weekend after do it, and I was
just like, man, it was so good to just do
what I did over the weekend. It wasn't there wasn't
any anything ourge There wasn't anything that you know. I
was like, man, I gotta do all that. I gotta

(01:04):
get back to work so I can relax again. It
was so fun, so good of a weekend. I was like,
I don't want to go back tomorrow. I told you yesterday, man,
everybody was over. We had so much fun. Just we
literally set out back all day and just hung out there.
We had music going, we had some drinks. My dad

(01:25):
was there, and you know, a bunch of family. I
fired up the Blackstone. We had smash burgers that I made.
And some people were like, you cooked on buttherer's day.
But I like that, it doesn't it. That's not hard
for me to do. It's a labor of love, if
you will. I love to feed people, so I just
I take joy in that. And so I did that,

(01:48):
and everybody else brought over everything else. But I did
the meat, the buns and the cheese, and then everything
else was brought and added and desserts and sides and
all that, and man, it was just so much fun.
For several hours. We set out there yesterday and the
correcty weather held off, not one drop of rain in
my area, none in yours.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Not until late in the day. Oh yeah, I took
what the grandson to camp yesterday. So I was going
for about five hours doing that and.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Were you outside there with him?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Okeah.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And they changed the way you check in this year,
so quite a lot of hiking to do as opposed
to last year where you drove up and there was
a big tent, but a lot of walking to do.
And the Queen was like, I'm proud of you. I said, Hey,
it's Father's Day, this is what dads.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Do, and and you're a few LB's lighter. Yeah, So
it definitely helps. The old knees and the hips and
everything else holds up easier when you don't have as
much hanging off of them.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
And we got back to Columbus and far west side
of Columbus two seventy and seventy everything's wet, soaked, and
by the time you got toward downtown into Franklin, everything was.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So was a very segmented rain that happened yesterday.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I got to I teed it up yesterday morning. That
was a late kind of game time decision Saturday, later
Saturday because Tony had a game early and then we
just kind of did some stuff during the day, just
you know, hung out, had fun, blah blah blah, and
literally his game was like a ten am game and
we were done by twelve twelve thirty, and so, you know,

(03:28):
I'm kind of like hinting that. I'm like, yeah, I
don't know if it's going to rain tomorrow in the morning.
You know, pretty early I had a six fifty four
tea time so to finish before everybody was coming over,
and and I, you know it was they put me with.
I like doing it. Some people are like, man, I
only want to play golf with people I know. I'm

(03:49):
so comfortable. I've met some of the most interesting people
through the game of golf because I just make a
tea time for myself, and that late on a Sunday
on Father's Day, you know that there's really going to
be nothing left, nothing available except if it's a single.
So I would see that there was one available at

(04:11):
like six fifty four, which I took. There was another
one available at like seven eighteen, and then there's this
huge gap, and the next one was like ten fifteen
or something, which I knew was going to be too late.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
So you consider six fifty four that late, well, no early,
oh okay.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Point being late late in the game to try to
grab a tea time. Typically there's nothing available. I didn't
mean late as in the walk late.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, Because I mean if breathing was a sport,
I don't know if I'd get up at six fifty
four on a Sunday morning for breathing, Yeah, I might
just have.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
To pass on that. I mean, that's the thing. Some
people look at me, like, man, you really must love
and I'm like, I do. I absolutely love it, and
it's that's not hard for me to do, even if
I get up and I'm tired, because that's something I
really love to do. I love to tee it up.
But then they put you with people I didn't know,
these guys that I played with, because clearly, when they're
there's one spot available at a tea time, typically the

(05:02):
other three are taken, and you're able to see that
on the website anyway. If there's only one spot available,
that means the other three are taken. If it says
four are available, that means that clearly it's a foursome
still available the whole, the whole tea time is still
wide open. So I knew with one remaining that I
would end up being added to a threesome, and that's

(05:23):
what happened. And I golf with guys. They're pretty good golfers,
and they were, you know, younger, younger than me, and
we just had a good time. And I, like I said,
I've met some of the most interesting people over the
years by just doing stuff like that. Have made some
tea times. And there's a guy that works there where
I went. His name is Don Johnson. It's easy, well,

(05:45):
it's obviously easy to remember his name. He's a listener,
he loves the show. And so I was checking in.
He goes, well, how was Vegas, mister Blazer, you know?
And I had forgotten. I go, well, Dad gone it,
you know, And then I started talking to him about
so it's I.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Don't know, if he ever calls in, he must identify
himself to Zach as crocket. Okay, I mean seriously, we
got to have him on his crocket.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Don Johnson is his name.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
When you play with strangers like that, do you just
do you keep it light? We don't need to know
too much about each other. Do you feel about like, hey,
would you guys go to the protest yesterday? Did you
start like.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
That or do you never bring up anything heavy. I
followed their lead, okay, and they never did say what
do you do for a living? Because usually that conversation
will kind of surface about fifty percent at the time.
The other fifty percent the guys are just they just
want to play golf and we just talked about guy stuff,
and there might be a mention of something or other,

(06:39):
but nothing anything real personal. And so if people ask me,
you know, what do you do for a living, I'll
just say outwork for iHeartRadio, and I don't go right
into TV and and what I do, because this can
be this can be a little bit of a if
I'm I'm with a whole I'm with a threesome of libs, well,
I could get uncomfortable. Yes, they have clubs in there,

(07:00):
so do I. But I try to avoid that. I
try to avoid that because for obvious reasons. And some
of them go, oh, that's interesting. You know what do
you do? And then I'll tell them And then when
the conversation stops there I know their libs, and then
I let it go too and I we just I
go back to and I'm good at steering conversations because

(07:20):
of what we do for a living. So I I'll
just talk about something else that were you got kids
and then we're dads and then that's it. There's plenty
to talk about that and you know that kind of stuff.
But you think about what we do. We talk to people,
we interview people, we've done this for and so it's
like breathing for me with regard to that kind of thing,
it's you know whatever. So Zach attack, I know you

(07:41):
said you had a great Father's Day weekend. I wanted
to obviously include you in this too to ask you.
I know you went and saw your dad and you said,
Charlie's still there, right.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, Charlie's still down there with white dad. But no,
we had a good it was an easy going, nice day,
which was it was perfect?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Did you? So was the focus yesterday with regard to
is everybody as as like nonchalant about food as you are?
Or is what are they?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
My mom is like I'm gonna cook, She's gonna cook anyways,
find something?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Is your dad like nonchalant about food like you are?
Pretty much? Okay? So you come by it honestly, all right? Yeah,
because you know, to bring the audience in. Zach doesn't
eat hardly I don't. I think I've seen you chuck.
How many times have you seen him eat? Like maybe
ten times the whole time.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
He's been chew the ale eight occasionally, just just to
make it look like he's eating. And that's about it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
And look, it's not an indictment, it's an observation that
I do want to make sure people understand that too,
because I'm not taking shots at you. I just and
I'm just curious if you know your dad's that way.
But I'm sure your mom's an amazing cook. It just
seems like moms always are for the most part.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
My mom's My favorite food is my mom's food, which
I think is pretty normal.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Absolutely, did she make something yesterday that you were like,
all right, it's time for me to eat chicken and stuff?
Like her chicken is my favorite thing, like fried chicken
or yeah, bread ad and all that. It's buttermilk.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I don't know exactly what she does to it. It's
fried chicken. But maybe it's just because it's my mom.
But yeah, it's it's really good.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
You had that yesterday? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, good, good
to hear you had a great Father's Day too. Yeah,
it was a good one mane. I appreciate it. Yeah,
I got some really cool stuff from my kids. And
they're to the age now where they they it's you
know the stuff that kids draw for you is it
has this place in your heart. You have the stuff

(09:35):
over the years. Now when it becomes maybe something along
with that and then in tandem with something else that
there was some thought put into, it's really cool. So
I got some really really cool stuff from the kids,
and uh and so yeah, I got a I love
you know. Josephine got me some really like this cool,

(09:56):
you know, Father's Day type mug. And then this little
penguin which is in our office. I'll show you this
little knitted like penguin that has like a little thing
on it. It's like holding up a sign, and I'll
show you when we go in there. Stone gets me
his stuff is all America related. So he got me
this shirt with like this kind of abstract flag kind

(10:18):
of painted on it. Nice and it's you know, it's printed,
not painted, but it looks almost like a painting on
the shirt or whatever. And then some cool sunglasses. So
I mean it was just like it's the contrast with
female and male which out fitted for the fireworks this
year too. Boom. That's it, man, that's it. So it's fun.
So that's good. Good to hear that everybody had a

(10:40):
good Father's Day and you spent yours exercising. But at
least you were at a you were at a fun
How far away was that?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's about an hour away. Okay, not too bad, it
wasn't It wasn't. I mean it was a nice weather
ride for the most part, so windows down and it
just I enjoyed it. And I broke the dieting rules yesterday,
I admit that openly, and it was well worth it. It
was Father's Day, yeah, so relaxed. I woke up to

(11:10):
bacon and eggs in the morning, and dinner last night
was this amazing rabbi. Oh my gosh, she's what she
does in the kitchen just kills me. Woo, Just big
rabbi and the smothered and the diced onions, and the
giant pile of basically like stir fry vegetables, all kinds

(11:31):
of different vegetables, little German potato salad. So I feasted
like a king last night.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Which probably still wasn't very much.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm guessing, no, not really I didn't put on any
weight as of the what I read in this morning,
So I guess I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, I mean that's low car what you just described. Anyheah,
So I know the guy who won the US Open,
JJ Spahn, ain't gonna forget this Father's Day for a while.
And I don't know if you saw anything surrounding this,
but it's a unbelievable feel good story. And he is American.
He's from Los Angeles, this JJ Spawn, and you know,

(12:07):
relatively unknown in the golf circles. He is. I admitted
it the other day when we were watching. He's a
dad and he had his little girls there with him,
and this dude makes this bomb putt, sixty five foot
putt on eighteen. And they were just outside of Pittsburgh
on Oakmont. It's the golf club there, a really tough

(12:27):
golf club. As a matter of fact, the winner, JJ
Spawn is the only golfer who finished under ParvE. That
tells you anything. And he was even standing over that
putt on eighteen. All he had to do was two
putt and he was gonna win. But he ended up
making that putt, as luck would have it, and then
he started talking about later, when he was being interviewed
how is one little girl named Violet? He said, well,

(12:50):
it was a bit of a crazy night Saturday into Sunday.
He's just like us. He's a dad, just like us.
He's like, she's battling Stunnach issues. She's vomiting all night long,
and he was given a whole account and he's like,
I had to run to CBS in the middle of
the night to this is the guy who's in contention
for the US Open, four and a half million dollars

(13:10):
on the line and a major and he's running to CBS.
The dudes in the like in the upper the upper
area of the lead and you got a guy overnight
who's sacrificing and doing what dads do. It really warmed
my heart, man, listening to this guy and he won
me over. He won me over because I was like, man,

(13:32):
I don't want a no name win in this. You know,
Adam Scott was right there. Of course he's Australian, but
there was some guys I was rooting for and it
wasn't him. And now I feel bad because it would have.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Fown in a dirty diaper. He would have been perfect.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, especially the blowout up up the back of the shirt.
I don't think anybody's going to top Bennett and he's
talking about Scotti Scheffler's kid. But man, that was it
was cool to watch that.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
The more people like that that win and achieve and
get recognized for it, the better off this country is.
We need to see the common person element is alive
and well out there and victories can be had.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
It was cool. It was really cool to see him
win that, and I was really happy. You could just
see how appreciative he is and was during this and
now his life has changed, and I hope it's a springboard.
This is true story, Chuck. One year ago, this guy
was literally on the edge of just He's like, I

(14:30):
don't I don't think I'm going to do this anymore
for a living. And it's so difficult to win a
tournament on the PGA Tour, let alone a major. So
congrats to you, JJ Spahn And also switching sports, the
Reds winning the series in Detroit. Two taken two of
three in Detroit against the team, the best team in baseball.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I can't even explain.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You're kidding me what.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Is going on there?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I was like, what I could not believe that the
Reds win Saturday and then again Sunday after they took
a little bit of a wallopin on Friday, and so
to come back to Saturday, they win in a convincing fashion.
They scored, they hung eleven runs on Detroit and Saturday.
On Saturday, I was like what. And so they ended
up winning again on Sunday and it's.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
A good sports weekend. The crew managed to finally pull
a win.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Out finally they I know it'd been a while, yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
That they were going up against one of the top
ranked teams. So I mean, it's it's like you're playing
up to the level when you have to, but when
you're expected to win, you're not winning. I'm not not
familiar with that.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
That head stretcher man, Yeah, you can't. You can't really
put it together. It's like what we were outside. The
sun ended up when it when it did peek out
yesterday and came out Marshall and the towards you know,
the afternoon, early afternoon, at least in my area, it
it heated up. Man, it got it got warm because
it was muggy anyway, and I golfed early and the
sun never did come out. It was gray, but it

(15:58):
was there was little really no rain from and I
had a six fifty four tea time in the morning
and then the whole time all the way and we
finished around eleven and it did not but it was
it was muggy, but it was cool still. It was
like around seventy or low.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Se plenty of clouds looking like it was gonna rain
all day. Oh, it just didn't quite do it where
you were, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I kept waiting. I was like, man, I hope it
doesn't and somehow it did not, and then the sun
came out and we never did get rain up in
my area.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
So yeah, a few places that did ended up with
more than a quarter inch or so. The airport only
reported a trace, so there was that, But there were
scattered showers and thunderstorms around a lot of the area.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yesterday.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
In the southern part of Franklin County we picked up
about a quarter inch or more.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
So, yeah, it was scattered out there. Yesterday.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
The high was only about eighty three and we're gonna
be close to that again tomorrow, so we still have
some wet weather to deal with. There are showers and
thunderstorms out there right now. They're very scattered, but if
you're driving around, you might run into one of these.
There's a little bit in parts of Fairfield and Hockeing Counties,
a little bit in Athens County, some of that in

(17:06):
Ross and Pickaway Counties. More of that will happen during
the night tonight, and you may see some patchy fog
first thing tomorrow morning. What you're gonna notice more is
that it's muggy, and it's warm seventy for the overnight
low tonight and still feeling a little sticky eighty two
on Tuesday. Showers and thunderstorms. Storms are possible to get

(17:28):
on Wednesday with a high of wait for it, eighty eight.
That's gonna feel like it's in the nineties with the humidity.
Next week we're looking at highs in the nineties with
a heat index close to one hundred.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Bring it on, baby.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
And yet no use of the word sunshine anywhere in
Marshall's extended forecast.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I find problems with that. Well, I think there is, though,
I mean he didn't so sunshine. And anyway, thank you Marshall.
It is eighty three right now, I see sunshine. By Sunday.
You know, well, so you can look at partly cloudy
means partly sunny.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know, I want to get if it rains really
hard to go. If this was snow, it would be
eighty four feet of snow. I would like to know
next Monday and Tuesday, when we're looking at heat index
over over one hundred each one of those days, if
we had clear blue skies and sunshine, what would it
be like three trillion degrees? We all just vaporize because
without the cloud cover and everything. I have to wonder

(18:24):
how what the equivalent would be to that whole rain
versus snow thing.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think the heat index is based on you throw
humidity in the mix, right, and it's going to top out.
There's no it can't get to three trillion heat and
if you know what I'm saying, because you can only
get so humid and it's only going to get air
temperature in this area is only going to get And

(18:49):
I don't know what the records are, but clearly if
you were at max excuse me, you were at max
humidity and then you get up don't know, Let's say,
let's say it did get one hundred degrees. The actual temperature,
and then you're at max humidity, you're still going to
hit AMT. I don't think it can exceed X amount,

(19:10):
whatever that is, but we can double check that with Marshall.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I'm just thinking, if if the sun has direct access
to you, you would have to be hotter. The heat
index that feels like temperature they talk about seems to
me that would even have if we've got high humidity
and clear skies, that sun would have to feel even
hotter than what it would feel with a weary, cloudy day.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I know that in the in Disney. We've been down
to Disney before. In Orlando when the heat index, I
mean it is, it is brutal, man like one eighteen
one twenty and I haven't really seen anything higher than
that as far as heat index. But you're talking about
a ninety eight degree air temperature, and you're talking about
you know, ninety six percent humidity or whatever, because it's

(19:52):
so humid.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
There in Florida. The ocean yet's so brutal.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
You literally are outside for more than nine ninety seconds
and you begin sweating.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I went to Tampa for a buddy's wedding years ago,
and I got out of the shower at the hotel,
and I felt dirty. I mean, you're sweating in the
air conditioned hotel room as soon as you step out
of the shower. I don't know that I could. I
couldn't do twelve months a year feeling like that.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Oh it is. It can be brutal there, Yeah, sure,
no question. Vance Bolter was captured last night at his
farm in green Isle. He is the guy accused of
killing Minnesota representative and her husband, Melissa Hortman and her
husband Mark, and then Senator John Huffman Hoffman and his

(20:39):
wife Yvette. He wounded them. Here's one thing. There was
motion triggered trail cameras that spotted him and then officers
closed in in a few hours. That's the account of
how he was captured. Two separate shootings. He left one
Minnesota lawmaker dead, another one badly hurt. So well, when

(21:03):
you what I don't understand is that they're trying to
get him with its second degree murder? How could that
there is? He had a list, Yeah, of people, there's.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Premeditatde targets on the list, including apparently, according to The
New York Post, Tim Walls was on the list of
people to assassinate. It's also been published by a couple
of sources that Tim Walls appointed him to a position
at one point. So I his roommate and friend of
many years as well. He was conservative, but he really

(21:37):
didn't talk much about his politics except he was very
much against abortion. Somebody at fifty seven years of age,
it's motivated to go out and start shooting people didn't
talk very much about their politics. There's too much about
this story that's not making sense to me.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I will say this, the guy who showed up and
shot some conservative lawmakers when they were playing baseball, softball,
whatever it was. Do you remember that I was a
Bernie Sanders supporter, remember all that? Yeah, and they were downplaying. Well,
so what he does? And I say to this, who who?

Speaker 5 (22:07):
What?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Now? What does it matter with regard to who he
voted for or what have you? The guy killed a
couple of people, a couple of lawmakers who voted conservatively.
The one the gal Melissa, she voted conservatively with regard
to illegal immigrants.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yes, and there it was medically only Democrat to do this. Yes,
in the legislature. Yeah, so deny and the budget bill
denied medical care to adult illegal immigrants that that taxpayer expends.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, and so this guy kills her for that, Yet
he would agree with what she did there if he
was conservative. Again, I go back to does it really
even matter who he voted for? Because they wanted to
do all of that and say all of that when
this guy was a diehard Bernie Sanders supporter and he

(22:57):
shot a bunch of Republicans, a conservative lawmaker who were
out playing baseball, who were playing softball, whatever it was,
and so they wanted to say, well that you can't
really hold it. And you know, at the time I
did think that. I go, you know, you can't really
hold it. It's like, yeah, that's who he supported and
he's going after. But so does that make Bernie Sanders

(23:18):
call a point? No, how could it. Bernie never said,
hey man, I need you to go take a bunch
of conservative lawmakers out. Go go get them, go shoot them.
It's not his fault. He did not. It'd be different
if he were putting a bunch of stuff on social
media Bernie saying hey go take out as many lawmakers
as you can of the conservative nature. Well, now we

(23:41):
got a problem. He wasn't doing that.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I have seen Minnesota shooter was supporter of Trump. I
have seen Minnesota shooter voted Trump the best most balanced
for renditions so far from the New York Post, which
is what a Van Sluther Bolter's politics alleged Minnesota and
assassin was appointed by two Waltz voted for Trump. Okay,
you gave me both sides of your argument there. Let

(24:04):
me read the story and decide for myself, right, But
you know, everything else seems to be pointing out that
that he voted for Donald Trump or allegedly. So that's
one thing, alleged assassin, but he voted for Trump. Maybe
he allegedly show me a voter record, you tell me
he voted for Trump. Let me see the voter Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, again, though, one way or another, this guy is
the one who pulled the trigger, killed these two people
and attempted to kill two others, and then had a
list of seventy like you alluded to. Well, uh, okay,
we got all that, and it does it really matter
which way he voted here? And I mean whether even
if he would have voted for Kamala, who cares. What

(24:41):
the guy did is just horrific, horrific, And then you
think he was posing. Did you see footage of that
where he was posing as a cop at their door
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
He was trying to start a security company himself, so
he had security paraphernalia and garth horrific. But he was
a big fat guy. He didn't pass as a cop.
As far as I can say this, I don't know
if you can see this from across the room or not,
or one of our real James Woods buddies. That's that's
him in his Resist T shirt Toeah next to buddy. Yeah,

(25:13):
so who knows what he is until the smoke clears.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
The Mark Bleezer show boy. There's a whole bunch of
different ways you can kind of slice up how you
should grill. I mean, there's all these grilling pet peeves
and and so on that exists. I will agree with
one of these on this list is squishing the burger.

(25:36):
You're pushing all the juices out. That is a novice mistake.
I see people do that, especially on a grill when
you've got burgers on there, and you know, depending on
how thick you make them and so on, they can
almost kind of shrink up to what looks like a meat,
like a ball almost because you might be having it
going too hot or something along those lines, and people

(25:59):
will go, I don't want to hit I need it
a little more flat, and as a result they start
pushing on it. Well, then you get the flat you know,
the flame goes flying because well, if you're using eighty
twenty or seventy thirty, that's a ton of fat dripping
down in there. It's going to get that the fire up.
I do. I do agree with that. You should not

(26:19):
be squishing the burger. That's it's a novice miss.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Are you stugly a propating guy, or you occasionally a
charcoal guy.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I haven't used charcoal and so long, really so long.
I'm not against it. If you're a guy doing that,
The thing is you got to keep it going because
it can taste like that. I've had them where you
get the lighter.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Flu Yes, if you overdo a lighter fluid, that's the yeah,
big mistake.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You have to have a lot of patience for the
charcoal because it's not a gas grill. It's not going
to uh not going to be ready to serve as quickly. Yeah,
but there there is there's a degree of patients and
almost artwork to a charcoal grill. If you're good on
a charcoal grill, you're good, So you have a charcoal grill.
I've had charcoal grills. I've got two gas grills right now. Yeah,

(27:08):
one for the big stuff and one generally up with
the smaller things on whether you know the kid's hot
dogs or whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
He knows a master our boss. He is a master griller.
And I mean that like he does charcoal. He's got
all kinds of different grills and like his whole setup.
He is a mad scientist with this. He smokes, he does,
he does all of that stuff. My buddy rays big
on smoking stuff, but he's so dead. I mean, he'll

(27:34):
be out there if he's got something happening on a
Saturday night. He's out there at one o'clock in the
morning Friday night, going into Saturday, getting the smoker going
and doing and he'll babysit it for fifteen.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Hours or whatever. But I do not have that kind
of patience.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I like you hear about people doing that that will
set with it. They get going, But I there's a limit.
I have a smoker, but mine's it's digital, and some
people are like, that's not real smoke. Well, it's like, well,
yeah it is, because I'm using I'm using the chips,

(28:09):
the woods. I'm actually smoking, but I'm not monitoring the temperature,
babying it and then keeping it around the two and
a quarter two thirty two thirty five, depending on where
you want to run your smoker, and then sitting there
and monitoring it. There's an art to maintaining that. If

(28:30):
you're doing it without any digital help, there's an art
to that.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, he'll do the temperature thing, and he'll use different
woods depending on what whether it's a hog or a
big brisket or whatever at cherry wood or walnut or
he's he's very very into it. I just no way
i'd have that kind of patience.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
One thing I learned when I first started smoking, you
can over smoke something and then it gets gross. It
literally ruins the meat. You can oversmoke it because I
used to think, oh, you can't get enough smoke, and
it depends on Hickory is the one that it's overwhelming.
It literally tastes like you're eating the smoke and oh yeah,

(29:06):
there's some sort of texture in there that's meat. It's disgusting. Man.
You can oversmoke it. But I can tell you there
is an art to that, maintaining that and all of that.
But these are just some of the grilling pet peeves
that This was in the what was it in, I
don't know. It was published, and so they went across

(29:29):
the United States and said, you know, let's hear about
the grilling pet peeves. These were some of the common denominators.
Squishing the burgery, now, I did yesterday on the on
the Blackstone, but I did smash burgers. Well, you're supposed
to smash those, so you smash the crap out of them,
and then they get a crust on them, and you

(29:49):
use about a golf ball size meat and then start
with that. You smash it out and I do doubles
because it's then gd ritzie style if you will remember that, yes,
Prison Bay, oh yeah, and then the cheese will get
could get crisp on the edges and stuff when it melts.
I mean, man, it was good. They were really good.

(30:11):
I got the smash burger. I got that. I got
it down. I got that figured out.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
There is a degree of burn or singe or things
on food that can It's almost essential, especially grilled stuff.
You know you like that little singe on those burgers,
or that darkness on the hot dogs or whatever. If
they're too plain, there's just something missing.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, guessing when your meat is done was another one
on this list that said use a thermometer. I don't
use the thermometer when I'm doing Yeah, you know you
do after you've done it enough. You really do know.
Certainly there have been times in my life where I've
pulled it too early and then you go, oh, man,
look at that. It's still nasty in the center or whatever.

(30:54):
But some people like it. How do you like your steak? Steak?
I'm a rare guy. Rare.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, chicken is where I have.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
You can't do that. That has to be done.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Chicken must be right, because if I bite into any
kind of poultry and it's not completely all the way done,
all we're done for the day.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah. I can't eat anything rare like that bloody where
it's barely warm, not even I mean it's still cool.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I just dark on the outsides. Give me, give me
my singe marks from the grill on the outside. But yeah,
plenty red inside is fine for me.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I gotta have medium on mine, even file at or whatever.
But some people say that is that's just wrong, you know,
like they're like, and look, I'm not a well done guy.
And don't get me wrong, there are people who have
to have it well done. I don't. I stopped short
of calling him a terrorist when they do that. But
like he's putting ketchup bot it. Yeah, oh, come on

(31:47):
grabbing whatever. The Hamburger mixes the grocery store, and again
this is some of the pet peeves. Go for the
freshly ground meat with the thirty percent fat. If you
can get that, get it because it is flavorful, lot
of flavor in that, especially when there's thirty percent fat.
And grilling your hot dogs in the wrong direction they
they on here, they say they should go length wise

(32:09):
in between the greats. I one thousand percent disagree with that.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
You laid them across the more organized, but that kills
the aesthetic effect of having them awful grill to begin with.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Well, you need the grill marks on this. And I
like the hot dogs cook. I like them almost burnt.
I like that that kind of the blackness that gets
on those and juicy.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Are you the same way with your brots? I don't
even like brons really American.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Really, I like Italian sausage. Now we just did those
two weeks ago, but I don't like an actual brot.
Is there something the fennel. There's something. I don't know
what it is, chuck, but I can't eat though. I
don't like the snap. Some people like that. I don't
like tearing the skin. That's like, I'm like, for whatever reason,
I'm man, I've tried over and over, I promise, because

(32:58):
I don't know. Some people claim, like, man, I brought
because I boil the Italian sausage. I'll boil the hell
out of those, then put them on the flat top.
And I've got fresh vidalia that I've chopped up, and
also green red, green and red pepper, and I cook
them all and all that on flat top. I'll lah
and then I use I'll use marinera. Then I use mozzarella,

(33:21):
shredded mozzarella, like the fair. That's what they do with
the Ohio State Fair.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
You muy as well just throw some spaghetti noodles on
top of that.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Well, it's man, you got the big Italian sausage in there.
Then yeah, man, it's good. It is really good. Oh hey, Aaron,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Hey, what's going on, guys? Great show? A man?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Thanks?

Speaker 6 (33:40):
Hey, hey, uh you know that charcoal grill? And I
I was always you know, I used the gas grill forever,
and then one day I went camping, you know, just
I was just tent camping. I was younger, and I
got me one of them little webber grills, one of
them little let's call it, I think a Smoky Joe
or a Mighty Joe or something like that. And you know,

(34:00):
I used just kings for charcoal. First of all, kings
for charcoal is different now than it used to be.
It burns fast, right, Kingsford charcoal you bought you buy
now is not the same Kingsford that you got twenty
years ago.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
It does become dusty quickly, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yeah, And I'll tell you At Kroger and it, you know,
at like ards, you can buy these chunks of like
fruit wood charcoal, and you can also buy chunks of
fruit or just dried fruit wood that you know, you
can get those webers going with the Kingsford and you

(34:37):
can just throw a little chunks of them on that.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
It's like a smoke almost.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Oh man, dispatch cock a chicken on that. I'm telling
you what.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Bro Hey, let me ask you this aaron with regard
to the going back to your comment like it's not
the same charcoal briquets from twenty years ago. You think
they've added an accelerant because that that way you got
to buy more of it, because think about this, twenty
years ago, A bag of that stuff used to last
you two summers. You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
It seemed like, yeah, you know what I think happened. Okay,
so I've actually picked up the loads of charcoal up
there in that West Virginia town where that stuff comes from,
and is what happened. I think match Light bought Kingsford
and now all the charcoal for Kingsford is made in
the same plant as Matchlights. Okay, interesting, and I think

(35:28):
it's a different like like density.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, well, Kingsford you had to work on. Match Light
has the fluid included in the brickete so that you know,
So if they're.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Doing that that aa way, No, I don't, okay, you
want to add your eye.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I would rather start a fire with some paper or
kindling or something like that and allow that to get
the charcoal going. I would rather not use the fluid
at all.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
So you don't if you can get around the light
of fluid, you don't use it at all, not at all. Okay,
sorry things.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
Yeah, I've used one of them things that you put
the charco line forget chimminy or something like that. You
put the charcoal in there and you put the I
don't know whatever you're gonna light on underneath it, and
it kind of gets the charcoal going.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
So you don't use the fluid either.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
No, put a piece of fat wood in there.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Looks like an old railroad lantern type thing. Did you
put your stuff? And it gets hot, and then once
you've got those coals going, you can put them in
on top of the other coals.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
And get the whole things continue igniting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
Sometimes you can find fat wood, like where you find
that charcoal. Maybe not at Kroger, but at Minards or
someplace like that. Yeah, you can find sticks of fat wood.
And I'll run a piece of fat wood down through
my charcoal and then started on the bottom, and then
that fat wood will burn up through there and then
you don't have any.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Fuel, gotcha.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
You know who has a lot of something in that?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know, has a lot of fat wood, is the view.
I understand they have a lot of that sitting around there.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
My younger days, I'm marketing back as he's telling you
about the charcoal and everything. Younger days living up on
campus on fifteenth Avenue and in our building there is
like a community habachi. You can come home at night
and you know, somebody's sitting on the front porch with
habachi going. They get their stuff done. A man, you
want to use it, Yeah, you bring your hot dogs
out or whatever and going there. Yeah, it was just

(37:17):
it was kind of everybody's hibachi. And for some reason,
that vision's in my head right now and I miss.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
It preheated if you will. Yeah, this community, it just
kept going. Yep. Yeah, minimal effort to.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Don't know who it belonged to, but as long as
you threw some charcoal in there, you were good.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
That's awesome. He is the shooter is facing federal charges.
Stuff of nightmares. As a matter of fact, his crimes
are the stuff of nightmares. Which we'll get that in
just a second. We'll check in with ABC News, so
stand by for that. Chief Meteorologist Marshall McPeak joining us now.
So warm, warm, and warmer is where we're headed, Marshall. Yeah,

(37:56):
and steamy for the next few days.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
So right now, we've got some scattered rain showers mainly
north of Columbus, a few of those in the city,
but more of it is up by Marysville and over
into Delaware.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Some of that just south of Marion.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
It's about to get into Waldo in the next few minutes,
Carrington with a bit of a sprinkle. More of those
will come and go during the night tonight. You might
even hear a little bit of thunder seventy for a
muggy overnight low tonight and a chance for some patchy
fog to start your Tuesday. Tuesday afternoon, scattered showers and thunderstorms,
a muggy day again with a Heim year eighty two.

(38:30):
Oh and then it actually gets steamy with a high
on Wednesday near eighty eight degrees. That's gonna feel like
it's in the nineties with more showers and thunderstorms likely.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
All right, Marshall, thank you. It is eighty three right now.
So yeah, I was just saying, chilling details emerge in
the Minnesota shootings, Vance Bolter facing federal charges, the stuff
of nightmares. It quotes here and Sasha Peznik joining us
ABC News reporter and Sasha, welcome in, and these chilling details.

(39:04):
I would like to hear this. This is incredibly bizarre
the way this is playing out.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Huh hey, Mark, Yeah, exactly. The man suspected of shooting
and killing a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband, as well
as shooting and wounding a second lawmaker and his wife,
stoked his victims like prey and shot him in cold blood.
Acting US Attorney for the District of Minnesota, Joe Thompson
said today, as you said, he said that his crimes
are the stuff of nightmares. Dan Belter the fifty seven

(39:31):
year old in the Minnesota area. He's accused of allegedly
killing Minnesota State Representative Melissa Hartman and her husband, and
wounding State Senator John Hoffman and his wife in what
Thompson called political assassinations. This all started are very or
very early Saturday morning, when authority Belter posed as a
police officer. He showed up on the lawmaker's doorstep, dress

(39:53):
as an officer, even carrying a badge and a tezer,
wearing a latex mask, even allegedly a fake police car
that he left behind he ran off on foot and lasse.
They recovered several firearms and writings from his car, including
a lengthy list of potential targets other lawmakers, not just
in Minnesota, but other parts of the country as well,

(40:14):
and abortion rights advocates. A two day man hunt ensued them.
He was erected overnight into Monday mornings. He was taken
into custody near his farm, about an hour south from
the crime scene. Twenty SWAT units surrounding the arms suspect
and of fields after drones and helicopters spotted him from above.
Authorities that he crawled to law enforcement teams there on

(40:35):
the ground for the takedown, and he was taken into
custod as. He now faces federal charges including stocking and
firearms charges and murder charges as well. He appeared at
a hearing this afternoon in a two piece orange jail
suit and orange stocks black slides, not wearing handcuffs, and
appeared stoic and even tempered that he couldn't afford to

(40:55):
pay his own legal fees, and now authorities are going
to endeavor to find out what exactly happened here, why
he allegedly was motivated to do this and we'll go
from there.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Mark, Yeah, this is uh. When you see and and
you did, Chuck, did you see some of this footage
as well with regard to the mask that he had
on or the like, it was so bizarre looking, And Sasha,
I don't know if you saw that either. I'm sure
you probably have, but it looked almost like to me

(41:26):
when I saw the still of it, it looked like
a Halloween kind of Halloween ish or something of all
those lives. It is so bizarre that it's played out
this way. And but the fact that he was there
and what you even described as a police car, I mean,
to make this charade so believable. I just think to myself,

(41:50):
those poor people when they're opening the door, I mean,
they had no other they they see that and they go, okay,
this is totally legit. And then obviously too late at
that point.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Yeah, that's exactly right, this hyper realistic silicone mask. When
he showed up at one of the lawmaker's doorsteps that
he was a he was a police officer, and they said, oh,
you're not a police officer, and I struggle ensued. He
first when he showed up at Senator Hoffman's door you
see that chilling security footage that authority they showed the

(42:22):
suspect in a black taxile vest and body armor, the
hyper realistic silicon mask. He was armed with the flashlight
and a handgun. Knocked on the front door. Authority say,
and say this is the police opened the door. When
Senator Hoffman and his wife came to the door, the
suspect Authority say, shine the flashlight in their faces, said
there was a shooting reported in the house and asked

(42:43):
if the couple had weapons. Authority say and and they
they called him on it. They said, you're not a cop.
And from there the suspect said this is a robbery
and tried to force his way into the home. It's
actually thanks to the Hoffman's daughter who called nine to
one one at that point and alerted authorities to what

(43:04):
was going on. And from there this two day man
hunt ensued.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
We now know.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
From some of the writings that he left behind. And
I will say it's not just a Minnesota issue here.
This is not a right or left, or right or
blue issue. We know that the political violence, the threats
against public figures have been on the rise on both
sides of the Aisle Our own president has faced two
assassination attempts on his life. It's unclear what the motive

(43:31):
is to to speculate at this at this point, what
his motive may have allegedly been, It's something investigators will
now be endeavoring to dig into. But we do know
today that an Ohio Democratic Representative Greg Lanson said that
he was told by Capitol police that his mom was
on the suspects west. He says that Cincinnati police quickly
increased security for him and his family this weekend, And

(43:54):
of course we know this weekend was also Father's Day weekend,
when a lot of folks are going to want to
be with their families and out and about.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I understand legislatures around the country actually as soon as
this happened started motalizing additional security, which is it's wise
because crazy knows no political That crazy is crazy, right.
And this guy, even from the still on the Hoffmann
security camera, I'm sorry, I wouldn't open the door to that.
He looks like an alien. That mask looks like an
alien in a in a police sys to me. Yeah, gosh,

(44:22):
And I wouldn't have even opened the door to somebody
like that.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, you and I wish that they hadn't opened the
door either, not that he wouldn't have shot through the
door or any of those there. We don't know about
any of that, And it's all the way around unfortunate.
You'd like to think that you would react the way
that you know you're you're portraying there and and so on. Yeah,
just an absolute shame the way this has played out,
But of course we'll follow it. Have they said what

(44:45):
they're charging him with yet, Sasha or or And I'm
sorry if I caught you off guard with regard to that,
what they're gonna what they're charging him, whether have they
not determined all of that yet?

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Officials taking out this is federal charges including stocking and
firearms as well as stay charges. But it is possible
that he could base death penalty. We're going to see
all of this play out in the coming days and months.
He has not yet entered the PLEA.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Sasha Peznick whose ABC News out of New York. Sasha,
thank you very much for the latest time. I appreciate you. You
bet all right, We'll see you.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I'm saying, federal death penalty has got to be on
the table here. I would hope and expect Donald Trump
to speak up on this immediately, because he has been
very clear about you mess with our police officers, we're
done well. The same needs to apply whether I agree
with you or not, like you or not, the same
needs to apply to the people that have stepped up

(45:42):
and been elected to serve. They should not live their
lives in terror of some freak showing up at the
door in a Halloween mask and opening fire on not
only them but their spouse, their kid. They had a
fifteen year old daughter. The Hawkins had a fifteen year
old daughter. At least a couple of reports said mom
put herself over the daughter to shelter her. God bless

(46:04):
her for doing that, because that's what any parent should do.
But but I would hope that the President would speak
out on this and say, yeah, federal death penalty charges
anywhere we can apply them, should be applied here.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I would also like to say on behalf of ABC
News and Sasha Pasnik who is reporting there, to not
turn this political. I feel the need to point that
out because in this day and age, there's a lot
of that happening, and for them to not slant this
one way or another, and to even point out that

(46:35):
two attempts on the current president's life have even been
at play here. And this is not a red or
blue issue, not a right or left issue, but obviously
a crazy issue. And so thank you. I mean, I
have to say rest by her.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
That's my first time ever interacting with Sasha, and I
was kind of impressed by the fact that she was
so accurate reporting. I love that.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, absolute, But that's why I felt the need to
point it out right now, because there are a lot
of people who automatically, you know, who were listening and
look rightly, so you get you get jaded by what's
unfortunately out there. But it's a lot of the you know,
really big huge names in the in the news business

(47:19):
and so on, with legacy media and all that. But
but thank you very much Sasha for giving us the
facts and the details of that, and she is one
thousand percent correct. It is incredibly chilling. The crimes are
stuff of nightmares. And like you said, you look tough
and see that you would hope that you would really go,
I'm not opening the door for this guy, not that
he couldn't just shoot through it, but the fact that

(47:40):
you know it caught you off guard, especially when there's
a police vehicle sitting, you know, behind him, and he's
got what looks like a credible badge, and man, oh man,
he got the drop on him, and unfortunately it proved
to be fatal for you.