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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, without further ado, let's bring in Alex Stone from
ABC News and Alex. Sorry getting to you a little
bit later.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'll be sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Well, I knew we had like a date and you know,
a time, and I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Well, I'm just sitting at the restaurant waiting for our date,
waiting for you to show up, sipping on my wine,
thinking he's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
He'll be here. Don't worry. I know I look alone
sitting over here. What kind of wine? Are you having?
A nice you? No?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, I'm not lonely over here, martender. I do have
somebody's coming.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm sorry I kept you waiting and uh uh yeah,
I h Are you really like if you could choose whatever?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Is it a is it a wine choice for you?
Speaking of that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Use, it depends on the date. It would sometimes be beer.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Sometimes it's wine, sometimes it's bourbon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It could be yeah, it could be any number of things. Oh,
I tried the Jack fire Oh I really like it.
Oh it's really good.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh yes, you know, I completely forgot about that. I'm
glad you brought it up that you actually have tried it.
Do you like it better than Fireball?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Then it's very similar to me.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
But I feel more adult drinking that than fireball and
then pulling out fireball.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So I feel more sophisticated around a group.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I think I'm already a bottle down and it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So do you do anything with it? Or is it
just a Yeah, it's a great sipping. It's smooth enough
to just put it over ice, and I've enjoyed it
that way, and I think I told you I've had it,
like while I've been on vacation playing a morning round
of golf, and I'll put it in red Bull even
because I'm getting my caffeine and I'm also on vacation
(01:39):
and I'm allowed to drink whenever I want, you know,
So yeah, I've actually done that too. But it tastes
really good if you And by the way, take a
couple of SIPs out of a red Bull. I don't
have your red Bull guy, but take a couple of
SIPs and then you can put the little you know,
you can put an ounce or two ounces of it
in there, and it's in the red Bull can and
people are none the wiser that way.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I was very smart, and I like, you know,
for our firefighter neighbors and family, members. I can show
them and be like, this is an honor of you.
Fireball sounds like you're more in college. But Jackfire, it
sounds like I'm like my LAFD Captain Neighborham. Look, I'm
doing this for you, aarin fire, Jack Fire, and it
you know, it looks tough on the outside and like
it's an honor of the firefighter.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's hilarious. Man doing it for the you do, I
don't know, a little more sophisticated. They've got a whole
different line of you know, Jack has a whole bunch
of different flavors and stuff with different stuff, but that Jackfire.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was introduced to that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
From a buddy of mine, Bob, and he I was like, wow,
I was sold on it. He brought the little ones,
the little individual you know, we call them airline bottles.
We were getting ready to fly to Vegas and there
was a bunch of us and we did a few
of those in the airport before we went through or no,
we had already gone through TSA because we could take
them through their one ounce and then we did it
(02:55):
before we got on the aircraft because as you know,
you're not supposed to be drinking on the aircraft unless
you've purchased your So we did a few there and
that was the first time I did him, and that
was the drinking choice on that trip to Las Vegas
and since and my wife I introduced it to her
and she's like, she likes it as well. So not
every time we're you know, having libations, but it is
(03:16):
that's a nice it's a nice, cool good thing. It's cool, taste, good,
hought about you got it there, it is.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's all good, awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
This is this this report about you know, the Air
India crash and all of that. Man, First of all,
it's incredibly intriguing, but even bigger than that, it's just
really sad. And what it turns it seems like it's
turning out to be, is even more sad.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's crazy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So you remember a couple days ago we were talking
about that. It heared that somebody had turned on purpose,
had turned off the Boeing seven eighty seven's engines by
cutting off the fuel supply. These two switches that are
right below the throttles on every Boeing aircraft. It could
be a seven thirty seven, seven sixty seven, a triple seven.
But in the seven eighty seven it's the same thing
(04:00):
where you have to have intent to turn off the
engines by pulling these spring loaded switches out and moving
them around the metal gate and then into the other
position so that they can't be rattled out of position.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You can't hit them with an elbow. Yeah, So the Wall.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Street Journal, they've got sources now telling them the cockpit
voice recorder indicates it was the captain who did it
on purpose right after liftoff, and the first officer panicked
asking why the captain had shut off the fuel flow,
and the captain was calm all the way until the
plane hit the ground and exploded, and our aviation analyst,
Steve Ganyard saying this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
We know that these switches didn't get bumped. We know
that it was a deliberate action where you have to
actually lift the switch and move it to the other position.
It's not something that can be bumped from one position
to another.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The captain was a fifty six year old veteran with
more than eight thousand hours a flying experience. The first
officer was thirty two years old, had three thousand hours,
and in the last couple of days the pilot's union
in India and India's Transport Minister have been saying none of
this is confirmed yet and stop speculating that the captain
committed murder suicide because it could have been other things
(05:09):
going on.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But that Transport minister is saying, I don't think we
should jump into any conclusions on this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I truly believe we have the most wonderful workforce in
terms of pilots and the crew in the whole world. Today,
Air India saying that it has concluded checking every Boeing
aircraft that they've got, that they wanted to make sure
they were fit for service and that there wasn't something
wrong with the switches. Now I mean again, they run independently,
so even if you had a problem with one switch,
the other switch would be fine. They're not both going
(05:37):
to vibrate out and have a problem at the same
time and turn the engines off. But they wanted to
make sure and pilots say that would be impossible for
both of them that have problems. But the CEO of
Air India is urging people today not to jump to conclusions,
to wait for the probe, which could be a year
from now to determine what went on, but that reporting
(05:57):
being that the pilot was very calm as the engines
were turned off, and was very calm all the way
until the plane exploding on the ground, while the first officer,
you got a feel for him, was panicking trying to
get the engines restarted and couldn't do it in time.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think also the line of investigation would most likely
entail speaking to or finding out the you know what,
the pilot's doctors to try to find because right now
I'm thinking, man, did he have some sort of terminal
illness that you know, you know what I mean? Like that,
(06:31):
cause you go, why would this eight thousand hours and
was you know he's seeing somebody for depression? Was did
he could just go cuckoo? I mean, because clearly somebody
of sound mind most likely wouldn't do something like that. Again,
I'm the one kind of jumping to conclusion here, but
what a sad situation a man, It can happen to
any of us.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, and that mental health is a big deal in
the airline industry. And now you remember what maybe a
year ago when that last airlines pilot who said he
had been on shrooms like two days before reached up
and tried to allegedly tried to turn off the engines
of that flight. That there was a flight in Europe
a number of years ago where it went into the
side of a mountain and that was suicide and took
(07:14):
everybody out in that one, everybody who was on board
that commercial airliner. There have been others around the world
where pilots have wanted to kill themselves and they have
killed everybody on board and taken them out with them.
So it does go on. But I mean they're at
the controls, and that it is a scary thought that
if they're having mental health problems, that yeah, it can
(07:35):
be devastating for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, man. And then you also think too about something
like that's like you we have enough with regard to
moving parts and mechanics of aircraft. You can have those
things to catastrophically go haywire, and then you throw in
this element and it's just like, gee, many Christmas.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's so it's such a scary proposition flying anymore, even
though it's not. You think about thousands and thousands and
thousands and tens of thousands of flights every day, and
it goes day after day after day where there are
no incidents, but it still it makes you quite you know,
think about it, even if you only fly a couple times.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
A year with sure. Oh absolutely yeah, really scary.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles. Alex, thank
you very much, See you, see you man,
Hey, without further ado, let's bring in Alex Stone from
ABC News and Alex. Sorry getting to you a little
bit later.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'll be sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Well, I knew we had like a date and you know,
a time, and I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Well, I'm just sitting at the restaurant waiting for our date,
waiting for you to show up, sipping on my wine,
thinking he's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
He'll be here. Don't worry. I know I look alone
sitting over here. What kind of wine? Are you having?
A nice you? No?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, I'm not lonely over here, martender. I do have
somebody's coming.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm sorry I kept you waiting and uh uh yeah,
I h Are you really like if you could choose whatever?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Is it a is it a wine choice for you?
Speaking of that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Use, it depends on the date. It would sometimes be beer.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Sometimes it's wine, sometimes it's bourbon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It could be yeah, it could be any number of things. Oh,
I tried the Jack fire Oh I really like it.
Oh it's really good.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh yes, you know, I completely forgot about that. I'm
glad you brought it up that you actually have tried it.
Do you like it better than Fireball?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Then it's very similar to me.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
But I feel more adult drinking that than fireball and
then pulling out fireball.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So I feel more sophisticated around a group.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I think I'm already a bottle down and it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So do you do anything with it? Or is it
just a Yeah, it's a great sipping. It's smooth enough
to just put it over ice, and I've enjoyed it
that way, and I think I told you I've had it,
like while I've been on vacation playing a morning round
of golf, and I'll put it in red Bull even
because I'm getting my caffeine and I'm also on vacation
(01:39):
and I'm allowed to drink whenever I want, you know,
So yeah, I've actually done that too. But it tastes
really good if you And by the way, take a
couple of SIPs out of a red Bull. I don't
have your red Bull guy, but take a couple of
SIPs and then you can put the little you know,
you can put an ounce or two ounces of it
in there, and it's in the red Bull can and
people are none the wiser that way.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I was very smart, and I like, you know,
for our firefighter neighbors and family, members. I can show
them and be like, this is an honor of you.
Fireball sounds like you're more in college. But Jackfire, it
sounds like I'm like my LAFD Captain Neighborham. Look, I'm
doing this for you, aarin fire, Jack Fire, and it
you know, it looks tough on the outside and like
it's an honor of the firefighter.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's hilarious. Man doing it for the you do, I
don't know, a little more sophisticated. They've got a whole
different line of you know, Jack has a whole bunch
of different flavors and stuff with different stuff, but that Jackfire.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was introduced to that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
From a buddy of mine, Bob, and he I was like, wow,
I was sold on it. He brought the little ones,
the little individual you know, we call them airline bottles.
We were getting ready to fly to Vegas and there
was a bunch of us and we did a few
of those in the airport before we went through or no,
we had already gone through TSA because we could take
them through their one ounce and then we did it
(02:55):
before we got on the aircraft because as you know,
you're not supposed to be drinking on the aircraft unless
you've purchased your So we did a few there and
that was the first time I did him, and that
was the drinking choice on that trip to Las Vegas
and since and my wife I introduced it to her
and she's like, she likes it as well. So not
every time we're you know, having libations, but it is
(03:16):
that's a nice it's a nice, cool good thing. It's cool, taste, good,
hought about you got it there, it is.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's all good, awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
This is this this report about you know, the Air
India crash and all of that. Man, First of all,
it's incredibly intriguing, but even bigger than that, it's just
really sad. And what it turns it seems like it's
turning out to be, is even more sad.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's crazy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So you remember a couple days ago we were talking
about that. It heared that somebody had turned on purpose,
had turned off the Boeing seven eighty seven's engines by
cutting off the fuel supply. These two switches that are
right below the throttles on every Boeing aircraft. It could
be a seven thirty seven, seven sixty seven, a triple seven.
But in the seven eighty seven it's the same thing
(04:00):
where you have to have intent to turn off the
engines by pulling these spring loaded switches out and moving
them around the metal gate and then into the other
position so that they can't be rattled out of position.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You can't hit them with an elbow. Yeah, So the Wall.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Street Journal, they've got sources now telling them the cockpit
voice recorder indicates it was the captain who did it
on purpose right after liftoff, and the first officer panicked
asking why the captain had shut off the fuel flow,
and the captain was calm all the way until the
plane hit the ground and exploded, and our aviation analyst,
Steve Ganyard saying this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
We know that these switches didn't get bumped. We know
that it was a deliberate action where you have to
actually lift the switch and move it to the other position.
It's not something that can be bumped from one position
to another.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The captain was a fifty six year old veteran with
more than eight thousand hours a flying experience. The first
officer was thirty two years old, had three thousand hours,
and in the last couple of days the pilot's union
in India and India's Transport Minister have been saying none of
this is confirmed yet and stop speculating that the captain
committed murder suicide because it could have been other things
(05:09):
going on.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But that Transport minister is saying, I don't think we
should jump into any conclusions on this.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I truly believe we have the most wonderful workforce in
terms of pilots and the crew in the whole world. Today,
Air India saying that it has concluded checking every Boeing
aircraft that they've got, that they wanted to make sure
they were fit for service and that there wasn't something
wrong with the switches. Now I mean again, they run independently,
so even if you had a problem with one switch,
the other switch would be fine. They're not both going
(05:37):
to vibrate out and have a problem at the same
time and turn the engines off. But they wanted to
make sure and pilots say that would be impossible for
both of them that have problems. But the CEO of
Air India is urging people today not to jump to conclusions,
to wait for the probe, which could be a year
from now to determine what went on, but that reporting
(05:57):
being that the pilot was very calm as the engines
were turned off, and was very calm all the way
until the plane exploding on the ground, while the first officer,
you got a feel for him, was panicking trying to
get the engines restarted and couldn't do it in time.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think also the line of investigation would most likely
entail speaking to or finding out the you know what,
the pilot's doctors to try to find because right now
I'm thinking, man, did he have some sort of terminal
illness that you know, you know what I mean? Like that,
(06:31):
cause you go, why would this eight thousand hours and
was you know he's seeing somebody for depression? Was did
he could just go cuckoo? I mean, because clearly somebody
of sound mind most likely wouldn't do something like that. Again,
I'm the one kind of jumping to conclusion here, but
what a sad situation a man, It can happen to
any of us.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, and that mental health is a big deal in
the airline industry. And now you remember what maybe a
year ago when that last airlines pilot who said he
had been on shrooms like two days before reached up
and tried to allegedly tried to turn off the engines
of that flight. That there was a flight in Europe
a number of years ago where it went into the
side of a mountain and that was suicide and took
(07:14):
everybody out in that one, everybody who was on board
that commercial airliner. There have been others around the world
where pilots have wanted to kill themselves and they have
killed everybody on board and taken them out with them.
So it does go on. But I mean they're at
the controls, and that it is a scary thought that
if they're having mental health problems, that yeah, it can
(07:35):
be devastating for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, man. And then you also think too about something
like that's like you we have enough with regard to
moving parts and mechanics of aircraft. You can have those
things to catastrophically go haywire, and then you throw in
this element and it's just like, gee, many Christmas.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's so it's such a scary proposition flying anymore, even
though it's not. You think about thousands and thousands and
thousands and tens of thousands of flights every day, and
it goes day after day after day where there are
no incidents, but it still it makes you quite you know,
think about it, even if you only fly a couple times.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
A year with sure. Oh absolutely yeah, really scary.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles. Alex, thank
you very much, See you, see you man,
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