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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alex Stone. ABC News is joining us. Alex.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We were just talking about Paul Rubens and the the
bike that.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
He rode, you know, pee wee Herman.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yeah, as he was going along, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, And it sold for one hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars on Saturday, and so it was only one
of fourteen created for the film. And then I thought, well, geez,
one hundred and twenty five thousand seems like a lot
for a you know, one of Well, they're thirteen other
just like that one.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So I thought it was kind of are you hearing
an echo? By chance?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I am not?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You're not okay?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I just wanted to make sure I was kind of okay, No,
that's better I can actually.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, that was just that we had a Beg's moment there,
Like it was.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Me as you were talking. I was saying the exact
same thing.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
As you and was just off just a little later
than sorry, was ad bugging you as I was copying
everything you were saying.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
There, he goes, it's Sinko de mayo. Do you celebrate that?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, we did.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
We always have an annual Sycomo party, but we did
ours on Saturday night and we had a lot of
friends over and we had a very nice night.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Did you have a lot of cocktails at available?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
We may have and I may have. All I know
is I was very slow yesterday through the day and
it was kind of a lost day yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Did it involve tequila?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Not my drinks, but a lot of other drinks?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I was more in the beer and weirdly the fireball
arena fill.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Did you play that song while you were shooting?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Nope? Nope, but no, it was a fine night.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I wonder how their sales are going because they marketed
it as a whiskey fireball whisky.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Then it came out it's actually a malt liquor.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Really well, I take the little bottles that they sell
for cheap in the grocery store malt liquor.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The big bottles are Canadian whiskey.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Are they still okay? Good?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Because I couldn't understand why people want to see that
flavored whiskey to begin with, Oh are you it's good?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's good. I'm like a college kid, it's good.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Wait a minute, Chuck, okay, Alex, you and I are
kindred spirits on this because Chuck, I gotta disagree with
you here. Jack Fire is of the best cinnamon whiskey
out there and a gold slagger once upon a time,
but not so much now for me.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But Jack Daniels fire is so good. It isna try that, Alex.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It is hunt it down. I promise you. It will
smoke fireball and it is. It is so smooth you
could put that over ice and just sip it. I mean,
it is that good. It really is, Jack Daniels Fire.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know what I'm bringing something I'm not.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'm not anti cinnamon whiskey. I just don't. I didn't
understand the appeal. I thought.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm like, you know what if I'm gonna drink hot tomali,
sure that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, that's it. Oh, Alex, I can't wait for you
to try this.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I'm gonna go and look tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You you will be You'll be like.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Right now, showed DeMaio many.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Dot matter what day it is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Right. Here's some of the Daytime Friends. These are some
of the the the Cinco de Mayo cocktails that they
had listed on this I don't know this sheet that
I saw earlier Daytime Friends is the name of this one.
They call it Pure Magic and these are from different
areas of the country. This one comes from Dallas, a
(03:24):
place called Common Club Dallas, and they mixed cucumber and
jalapino infused pantalones blanco tequila, anche ria one reyes Verde,
triple sec agave, and lime.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I thought it sounded good.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Just uh, oh, that doesn't sound bad. It sounds pretty good.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Then there's one that features a mix of montalbos mezcal, mango, lime,
a hint of taheen on it in it. It's called
go Mango is the name of it. This that's out
of Phoenix. You know, I get a little I'll be honest,
anything of Phoenix. I'm like, man, you start getting Southwest,
(04:02):
I feel it can get really hot, like spicy.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You feel a little too Ohio in that moment where
you like, I just can't handle this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Too spicy for myiol ass. That's the way I gotta
deal with it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Then there's a coconut margarita and it's a silver tequila,
coconut milk and lime juice.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I can do that. I like coconut. That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh well, they say simple, elegant and awesome, and I
think it sounds disgusting.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Myself.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh, it's like coconut milk. But should that be involved
in anything alcoholic is my question anyway, So those are
just a couple that runs, well, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Is the rock really reopening for business?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
If nothing else drums trolling people or whatever. But this
is interesting to say that. You know what I also said, Alex.
You know, I'm sure you've been at least by it,
or you've probably been on the tour. Yeah, I've got
it now. I'm like, oh, I got a high tail
it there. I've been wanting to go for so long
to see this.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
You better go before you get arrested and then have
to go, because yeah, this came out of nowhere on
Sunday night. And I grew up in the Bay Area,
so back in the eighties and nineties, Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Was, you know, we're in like the fourth grade.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
You would take a field trip and had smelt like
an old museum back then, and the buildings were crumbling
and the windows are broken out, and the National Park
Service the rangers and their uniforms touring you around. I
don't think anybody has thought, wow, one day this is
going to be a working prison again. I mean it
just it looks like in nineteen thirties prison, which is
what it is. This guy took a to where yesterday
(05:33):
when Trump made the announcement, he came back and said,
the rock.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
The island is not suitable.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Yeah, no, not at all.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
No, it's seis a visit.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I would never trust somebody to be in prison. There
there were a couple of escapes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
The President today said, nobody ever escaped, but there were
three guys that they believe did so that there's those stories.
Many classic movies have been made about it. But the
historic buildings, which are designated National landmarks. President says they
would be rehabilitated. They'd have to be torn down, and
you'd have to start over. Running water and sewage is
a problem. Getting staff they used to live on the
island in the thirties, forties and fifties. You'd have to
(06:09):
pay staff a ton to live anywhere remotely close to
the Bay area and state Cender Scott Wiener.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
He says, no one the idea that it would be
turned back into a prison would be so expensive and
just so dumb that it's hard to imagine it. The
President today, though, saying eh, he likes the idea.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Just represented something strong having to do with law and order.
We need law and order in this country.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
But we talked today to Elizabeth Newman. She served in
Homeland Security under President Trump in his first administration. She says,
hang on, everybody, chill out. You got to understand, he's
a showman. He likes the headlines that he'll put it
out there kind of see what said about it. She's
been in the room on the previous big ideas. She says,
this one may not go anywhere. He's going to wait
and hear how it all comes back out.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
He has a lot of ideas. People will go off
and study them, then they'll come back with the facts,
and usually it gets dropped at that stage. This has
that kind of feeling to me that he just was
thinking about it over the weekend. He's really frustrated about
the fact that all of these millions of people he
wants to deport are going to have to have their
own trial, and that's going to take too long. So
(07:13):
where do I put all these people?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Today?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Though, guys said the new director of the Federal Bureau
of Prisons, who was just appointed by the President, said
that they will vigorously pursue the President's agenda of the
president once Alcatraz that they will go for Alcatraz, but
it was shut down in nineteen sixty three because it
was too expensive to run at that point that just
the cost overruns were nuts. It makes about sixty million
dollars a year right now based on tourists going out there.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So the math may not end add up in this,
but we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
A couple things I thought were interesting. I forgot that
the staff lived there. I'd forgotten about that. Certainly that
will not be the situation if it did get to
And the other part is I go, well, if they
did open it again, they could continue all those tours
and stuff and still make.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
The sixty I mean, I guess it would be a
really interesting tour at that point.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't know how many people are really gonna want to.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Go over here? Is he killed twenty people? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Like the Yeah, A lot of even a lot of
folks who typically would be agreeing with the President on
something like this, they're saying, yeah. But that is why
federal prisons are typically built out in the middle of nowhere,
because the land is cheap. You have a lot of
land to build on. There's nobody around there, you know,
out in the desert of Nevada or out in the
(08:29):
middle of Kansas. None of that is true in the
Bay Area. There's not a lot of land on that island.
Housing is not cheap, labor is not cheap, you know
it just none of that adds up that that's why
they they build out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Is it true that you've swam that mile ageain like
back and you did love that's why.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Well, that's why I lost part of my right leg.
But that from from the sharks out there. You know,
you gotta watch out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's very interesting, to say the least. Alec Stone ABC
News See you later, Peg.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let you guys think about
Alex Stone. ABC News is joining us. Alex.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We were just talking about Paul Rubens and the the
bike that.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
He rode, you know, pee wee Herman.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yeah, as he was going along, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, And it sold for one hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars on Saturday, and so it was only one
of fourteen created for the film. And then I thought, well, geez,
one hundred and twenty five thousand seems like a lot
for a you know, one of Well, they're thirteen other
just like that one.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So I thought it was kind of are you hearing
an echo? By chance?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I am not?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You're not okay?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I just wanted to make sure I was kind of okay, No,
that's better I can actually.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, that was just that we had a Beg's moment there,
Like it was.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Me as you were talking. I was saying the exact
same thing.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
As you and was just off just a little later
than sorry, was ad bugging you as I was copying
everything you were saying.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
There, he goes, it's Sinko de mayo. Do you celebrate that?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, we did.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
We always have an annual Sycomo party, but we did
ours on Saturday night and we had a lot of
friends over and we had a very nice night.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Did you have a lot of cocktails at available?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
We may have and I may have. All I know
is I was very slow yesterday through the day and
it was kind of a lost day yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Did it involve tequila?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Not my drinks, but a lot of other drinks?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I was more in the beer and weirdly the fireball
arena fill.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Did you play that song while you were shooting?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Nope? Nope, but no, it was a fine night.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I wonder how their sales are going because they marketed
it as a whiskey fireball whisky.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Then it came out it's actually a malt liquor.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Really well, I take the little bottles that they sell
for cheap in the grocery store malt liquor.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The big bottles are Canadian whiskey.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Are they still okay? Good?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Because I couldn't understand why people want to see that
flavored whiskey to begin with, Oh are you it's good?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's good. I'm like a college kid, it's good.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Wait a minute, Chuck, okay, Alex, you and I are
kindred spirits on this because Chuck, I gotta disagree with
you here. Jack Fire is of the best cinnamon whiskey
out there and a gold slagger once upon a time,
but not so much now for me.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But Jack Daniels fire is so good. It isna try that, Alex.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It is hunt it down. I promise you. It will
smoke fireball and it is. It is so smooth you
could put that over ice and just sip it. I mean,
it is that good. It really is, Jack Daniels Fire.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know what I'm bringing something I'm not.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'm not anti cinnamon whiskey. I just don't. I didn't
understand the appeal. I thought.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm like, you know what if I'm gonna drink hot tomali,
sure that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, that's it. Oh, Alex, I can't wait for you
to try this.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I'm gonna go and look tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You you will be You'll be like.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Right now, showed DeMaio many.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Dot matter what day it is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Right. Here's some of the Daytime Friends. These are some
of the the the Cinco de Mayo cocktails that they
had listed on this I don't know this sheet that
I saw earlier Daytime Friends is the name of this one.
They call it Pure Magic and these are from different
areas of the country. This one comes from Dallas, a
(03:24):
place called Common Club Dallas, and they mixed cucumber and
jalapino infused pantalones blanco tequila, anche ria one reyes Verde,
triple sec agave, and lime.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I thought it sounded good.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Just uh, oh, that doesn't sound bad. It sounds pretty good.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Then there's one that features a mix of montalbos mezcal, mango, lime,
a hint of taheen on it in it. It's called
go Mango is the name of it. This that's out
of Phoenix. You know, I get a little I'll be honest,
anything of Phoenix. I'm like, man, you start getting Southwest,
(04:02):
I feel it can get really hot, like spicy.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You feel a little too Ohio in that moment where
you like, I just can't handle this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Too spicy for myiol ass. That's the way I gotta
deal with it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Then there's a coconut margarita and it's a silver tequila,
coconut milk and lime juice.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I can do that. I like coconut. That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh well, they say simple, elegant and awesome, and I
think it sounds disgusting.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Myself.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh, it's like coconut milk. But should that be involved
in anything alcoholic is my question anyway, So those are
just a couple that runs, well, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Is the rock really reopening for business?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
If nothing else drums trolling people or whatever. But this
is interesting to say that. You know what I also said, Alex.
You know, I'm sure you've been at least by it,
or you've probably been on the tour. Yeah, I've got
it now. I'm like, oh, I got a high tail
it there. I've been wanting to go for so long
to see this.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
You better go before you get arrested and then have
to go, because yeah, this came out of nowhere on
Sunday night. And I grew up in the Bay Area,
so back in the eighties and nineties, Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Was, you know, we're in like the fourth grade.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
You would take a field trip and had smelt like
an old museum back then, and the buildings were crumbling
and the windows are broken out, and the National Park
Service the rangers and their uniforms touring you around. I
don't think anybody has thought, wow, one day this is
going to be a working prison again. I mean it
just it looks like in nineteen thirties prison, which is
what it is. This guy took a to where yesterday
(05:33):
when Trump made the announcement, he came back and said,
the rock.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
The island is not suitable.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Yeah, no, not at all.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
No, it's seis a visit.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I would never trust somebody to be in prison. There
there were a couple of escapes.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
The President today said, nobody ever escaped, but there were
three guys that they believe did so that there's those stories.
Many classic movies have been made about it. But the
historic buildings, which are designated National landmarks. President says they
would be rehabilitated. They'd have to be torn down, and
you'd have to start over. Running water and sewage is
a problem. Getting staff they used to live on the
island in the thirties, forties and fifties. You'd have to
(06:09):
pay staff a ton to live anywhere remotely close to
the Bay area and state Cender Scott Wiener.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
He says, no one the idea that it would be
turned back into a prison would be so expensive and
just so dumb that it's hard to imagine it. The
President today, though, saying eh, he likes the idea.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Just represented something strong having to do with law and order.
We need law and order in this country.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
But we talked today to Elizabeth Newman. She served in
Homeland Security under President Trump in his first administration. She says,
hang on, everybody, chill out. You got to understand, he's
a showman. He likes the headlines that he'll put it
out there kind of see what said about it. She's
been in the room on the previous big ideas. She says,
this one may not go anywhere. He's going to wait
and hear how it all comes back out.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
He has a lot of ideas. People will go off
and study them, then they'll come back with the facts,
and usually it gets dropped at that stage. This has
that kind of feeling to me that he just was
thinking about it over the weekend. He's really frustrated about
the fact that all of these millions of people he
wants to deport are going to have to have their
own trial, and that's going to take too long. So
(07:13):
where do I put all these people?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Today?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Though, guys said the new director of the Federal Bureau
of Prisons, who was just appointed by the President, said
that they will vigorously pursue the President's agenda of the
president once Alcatraz that they will go for Alcatraz, but
it was shut down in nineteen sixty three because it
was too expensive to run at that point that just
the cost overruns were nuts. It makes about sixty million
dollars a year right now based on tourists going out there.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So the math may not end add up in this,
but we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
A couple things I thought were interesting. I forgot that
the staff lived there. I'd forgotten about that. Certainly that
will not be the situation if it did get to
And the other part is I go, well, if they
did open it again, they could continue all those tours
and stuff and still make.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
The sixty I mean, I guess it would be a
really interesting tour at that point.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't know how many people are really gonna want to.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Go over here? Is he killed twenty people? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Like the Yeah, A lot of even a lot of
folks who typically would be agreeing with the President on
something like this, they're saying, yeah. But that is why
federal prisons are typically built out in the middle of nowhere,
because the land is cheap. You have a lot of
land to build on. There's nobody around there, you know,
out in the desert of Nevada or out in the
(08:29):
middle of Kansas. None of that is true in the
Bay Area. There's not a lot of land on that island.
Housing is not cheap, labor is not cheap, you know
it just none of that adds up that that's why
they they build out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Is it true that you've swam that mile ageain like
back and you did love that's why.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Well, that's why I lost part of my right leg.
But that from from the sharks out there. You know,
you gotta watch out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's very interesting, to say the least. Alec Stone ABC
News See you later, Peg.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let you guys think about
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