December 8, 2025 • 11 mins
Congressman Jim Jordan discusses what is happening in Washington and the Democrats continuing to deflect and attack Trump
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You go into the Are you so chuck? I know
you're going on Saturday, You're gonna go camping.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, my plan is be part of the bad boy corner.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I mean, if we're gonna be the programming squad, we
gotta right right. I'm a little scared of it now
after that email that came out last week.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You will show up on your wallpaper.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
No, no, he's the added feature of what we're going
to have at the party.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You didn't see that. No, it'll be a karaoke Christmas.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Are you serious? Yes, there's gonna be karaoke. Yes, you
know who we need to get for that. Congressman Jim
Jordan is a great singer from what I Yeah, she's right,
He's like, uh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
No, I have the distinction. It's true story. I have
the distinction of being the only kid in the history
at Graand South Elementary School who was not allowed to
be in the choir. I actually tried out because I
want to get on a class for the Christmas musical.
And this is Mason. She puts some in front of me.
I tempted to sing that, and he looked at me.
She said, Jordan you are so bad. There's no way
(01:06):
I'm letting in my class.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You're kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
No, that's back before they saw this self esteem bologney
and they just they just gave you the fact, that
gave you the truth. But you know whether it was
straight straight on or what and uh yeah, forget about
self esteem. We're just telling you the fact. So this was.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Before ninth place ribbons.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
In other words, for everyone, this is before everyone gets
a trophy.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's for dark over there, a tone over there, it's
over there.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I didn't catch that well when I when I first
came on, I didn't catch prefer to root canal to
what I didn't catch to the second part.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What was is uh can't be as is Congressman Jordan
turned up like pretty loud, like I just I feel
like he needs to be. Is there a way you
can bring him up a little bit on the border
now is that guy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I can crank him up if you please? Thank you
all right, are you there, Congressman?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I got you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Okay, awesome. Yeah, there was a study.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And this is part of why I brought this on
because our our Christmas party is coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
For iHeart and so I saw this.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It was like a quarter of us workers prefer a
root canal to office holiday parties.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I'll kick to the party. I think now I get it, Okay, Well, yeah,
I don't know. I think I at least you got
punching or dervs at the party versus the root canal.
I don't know about that one. And then it just
shows how bad some office parties are.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I guess a child of the eighties. I worked in
some places. We used to have great office parties. Man,
it was the world was so different back then. It
doesn't seem like it's been that long ago, but office parties,
Christmas bonuses, holiday turkeys, it just was so normal. And
now people not want to go. I just don't get that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm uh yeah, we're all we've all
just kind of said we're going, and my wife is excited.
I'm excited actually because you know, COVID pretty much kind
of kind of really put a put a damper on it,
kind of ruined it for a few years and it
was like really goofy, And now it seems like we're
(03:18):
starting to get back on track with it. So as
weird as this is, I just started my eighth year
here in this building.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I've only been to one, but you know.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So far, and yeah, so we're kind of looking forward
to it looks like it's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's a good place.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I don't obviously want to say anything about where it's
going to be, but yeah, and people are going. They
find a third would rather go to the dentist than
to go to the Christmas party, and then another twenty
seven percent would rather get a root canal than attend that.
Get this, forty percent said they would rather go to
the dentist than socialize with their boss after hours.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I know, gather a Bilowsi's house for some ice cream,
or what do you do for the holidays?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
No, there are tons of there are little tons of
Christmas parties in DC last week this week. Uh, in fact,
we have one for all our staff on the on
the Judiciary Committee. So I think that's I think that's Wednesday.
So yeah, we we try to do those things. But
the first thing that came to mind when we started
talking about that is that great Christmas movie die Hard.
(04:24):
Doesn't it start with the Christmas party at the at
the Office tower.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Building?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. And then you know, and
the and the old joke is, of course that great
Christmas movie die Hard. Yeah, that's uh, that's that's one
of the things that came to my mind when you
were when when when I we started talking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So yeah, and absolutely, and then you bring up something
that some people, it's it's controversial. People will argue and
say that it's not a Christmas movie. I, however, I
come down on it is a Christmas movie, you know,
and Chuck thinks it's not.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a stretch to
make it a Christmas movie.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yet oh so you're okay, So you're like, okay, maybe,
and it's clearly the setting is Christmas time, and and that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Makes it a Christmas movie for me.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Certainly, it's not a Christmas movie like Christmas Vacation or
certainly any of the classics.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
There's you know, nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But being an Ohio representative, do you remember the Ohio connection?
Was it Diehard too, where the plane was hijacked on
the runway in the snow. I think the reporter who
was standing out there in the trench coat doing the
that was Bob Braun.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Oh Bob Bron from Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
He was Cincinnati. Yeah, took over Ruth Lions fifty to
fifty club and used to be a new show that
ran here in Colina, was on Channel four.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You gotta be old like me to remember that Bob
Bron when I was a kid. I remember Bob Bron.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Wow, right, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I didn't even realize that, Chuck, that's there's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Ohio's got this amazing with what you know, like the
Phil Donahue, Donahue.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Joe Paul Dixon was a big regional phenomenon back then too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, and then what Jerry Springer now claim him?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, politics aside, when you pay a hooker with a check,
I know, then.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Uh, Roger is Warren Ohio. I mean there's this long
tradition for for this this great state.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah kind of media.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Absolutely. Congressman Jim Jordan is joining us right now. Do
me a favorite congressman when you see forty seven, when
you see President Trump, if you could thank him personally
for me, because I paid two dollars and three cents
a gallon earlier today, I know, I was like, wow,
I'm filling up my truck for h yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Gosh, I mean it was. I think it was.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It would be around twelve dollars cheap or something, maybe
even more than that, maybe like fifteen dollars cheaper. Yeah,
And I said, you've got to be kidding me. But
gas prices down down down right now. But you know what,
nobody wants to focus on that in the media. Nobody
wants to talk about that. They want to focus on
did you send a second explosion to the guys that
(07:18):
were floating helplessly who were doing nothing wrong, you know,
drugs bringing drugs via boat, yeah, across the ocean, And
you know, everybody wants to focus on that right now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know, this has got to be Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think about guys like you and Congressman Balderson and
all the all the good guys who are part of
are you know, who are part of our congress right now?
And I think about you guys and all of these
different stupid narratives that keep coming up to try to
take away from anything good that this current president is doing.
And but when I say anything good, it's lots of
(07:53):
good that's going on, and they all they want to
do is deflect, deflect, deflect.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, No, the one thing that you know, Democrats, and
it's been this way for ten years, is going after
President Trump and they can never get him credit for,
as you point out, the just unbelievably uh low gas prices.
We're now seeing President Trump's an amazing job on on
the inflation. The problem is, under Biden went up, it
was record levels of increases to the cost of goods
and service. It's just unbelievable inflation. And now he's brought
(08:20):
it down, but it's still too high. So but but
we'll get there. I do think when the big beautiful
bill fully kicks in the tax cuts, the regulatory reform,
the energy policy reform, that we're going to see our
economy improve even even more than it already had because
of these good policies that we that we put in place.
But uh yeah, they're never gonna they're never gonna, you know,
give their give the president any credit. I mean, for
(08:41):
goodness sake, they shut down the government for a month
and a half to go after the president. They tried
to say it was about healthcare, but it was really
about going after the president. So that's the one thing
that's that united the Democrats for like I said, for
the last decade, how are.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You feeling about Uh, let's see what are we at
around a week and a half or so roughly that
Jack Smith is going.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
To be deposed under oath?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, And I mean, how are you take us through
your mindset going into this? Obviously without divulging you know
too much or what have you, but how do you
feel this is going to go or it's just going
to be a big stone wall thing from him and
his people or whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
No, I think he wants to come in and talk.
And so we're doing the first one as a deposition
behind closed doors, and then we'll look to do potentially
do an open hearing. But I mean, one one line
of question I think is real obvious. You subpoenaed the
phone records for the Speaker of the House after he
was named as the Speaker of the House that's been
the top Republican in our government back in twenty three,
(09:40):
and you subpoenaed those those records for two months determining,
you know, you could get when he called, who he
talked to, who called him, how long the call lasted,
and if if the Speaker initiated the call, you could
figure out where he was when he when he made
that call, So you can pattern a person's life. So
they did that for the Top Republican they did it
for me that the Top Republican Legistrary Committee for two
(10:03):
and a half years sim went all went back to
January twenty twenty. So I think there's an obvious line
of questioning there. We've already toposed three of his deputies.
One of them we refer to the to the Justice
Department for obstructing our investigation. So I think there's lots
of things we want to ask about. But he'll be
coming into nine nine days and we're preparing for and
(10:24):
getting ready for that deposition.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And I think maybe the representative from Tennessee, if I'm
not mistaken, said they not only were listening to calls
and doing transcripts, but pinging locations of everyone as they
were intercend from these calls. That sounded very scary.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
No good question, they weren't getting the content of the call.
But you can pattern someone's life if you know every
morning Mark is calling you, and every afternoon he's calling
his wife, and then he's you, and you know where
he's at when he's making those calls. That's kind of
creepy that the government's getting that information on you. And
then to also figure out every time you text again,
(11:01):
not the content of the text messages, but every time
you text, and who you text too, that's also that's
what they got that information. And then they told the carrier, oh,
by the way, you can't tell your customer that the
government is getting that information on them. They put a
gag order on the carriers on Verizon and AT and
T again, I think pretty frightening stuff.
You go into the Are you so chuck? I know
you're going on Saturday, You're gonna go camping.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, my plan is be part of the bad boy corner.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I mean, if we're gonna be the programming squad, we
gotta right right. I'm a little scared of it now
after that email that came out last week.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You will show up on your wallpaper.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
No, no, he's the added feature of what we're going
to have at the party.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You didn't see that. No, it'll be a karaoke Christmas.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Are you serious? Yes, there's gonna be karaoke. Yes, you
know who we need to get for that. Congressman Jim
Jordan is a great singer from what I Yeah, she's right,
He's like, uh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
No, I have the distinction. It's true story. I have
the distinction of being the only kid in the history
at Graand South Elementary School who was not allowed to
be in the choir. I actually tried out because I
want to get on a class for the Christmas musical.
And this is Mason. She puts some in front of me.
I tempted to sing that, and he looked at me.
She said, Jordan you are so bad. There's no way
(01:06):
I'm letting in my class.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You're kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
No, that's back before they saw this self esteem bologney
and they just they just gave you the fact, that
gave you the truth. But you know whether it was
straight straight on or what and uh yeah, forget about
self esteem. We're just telling you the fact. So this was.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Before ninth place ribbons.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
In other words, for everyone, this is before everyone gets
a trophy.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's for dark over there, a tone over there, it's
over there.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I didn't catch that well when I when I first
came on, I didn't catch prefer to root canal to
what I didn't catch to the second part.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What was is uh can't be as is Congressman Jordan
turned up like pretty loud, like I just I feel
like he needs to be. Is there a way you
can bring him up a little bit on the border
now is that guy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I can crank him up if you please? Thank you
all right, are you there, Congressman?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I got you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Okay, awesome. Yeah, there was a study.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And this is part of why I brought this on
because our our Christmas party is coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
For iHeart and so I saw this.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It was like a quarter of us workers prefer a
root canal to office holiday parties.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I'll kick to the party. I think now I get it, Okay, Well, yeah,
I don't know. I think I at least you got
punching or dervs at the party versus the root canal.
I don't know about that one. And then it just
shows how bad some office parties are.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I guess a child of the eighties. I worked in
some places. We used to have great office parties. Man,
it was the world was so different back then. It
doesn't seem like it's been that long ago, but office parties,
Christmas bonuses, holiday turkeys, it just was so normal. And
now people not want to go. I just don't get that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm uh yeah, we're all we've all
just kind of said we're going, and my wife is excited.
I'm excited actually because you know, COVID pretty much kind
of kind of really put a put a damper on it,
kind of ruined it for a few years and it
was like really goofy, And now it seems like we're
(03:18):
starting to get back on track with it. So as
weird as this is, I just started my eighth year
here in this building.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I've only been to one, but you know.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So far, and yeah, so we're kind of looking forward
to it looks like it's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's a good place.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I don't obviously want to say anything about where it's
going to be, but yeah, and people are going. They
find a third would rather go to the dentist than
to go to the Christmas party, and then another twenty
seven percent would rather get a root canal than attend that.
Get this, forty percent said they would rather go to
the dentist than socialize with their boss after hours.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I know, gather a Bilowsi's house for some ice cream,
or what do you do for the holidays?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
No, there are tons of there are little tons of
Christmas parties in DC last week this week. Uh, in fact,
we have one for all our staff on the on
the Judiciary Committee. So I think that's I think that's Wednesday.
So yeah, we we try to do those things. But
the first thing that came to mind when we started
talking about that is that great Christmas movie die Hard.
(04:24):
Doesn't it start with the Christmas party at the at
the Office tower.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Building?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. And then you know, and
the and the old joke is, of course that great
Christmas movie die Hard. Yeah, that's uh, that's that's one
of the things that came to my mind when you
were when when when I we started talking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So yeah, and absolutely, and then you bring up something
that some people, it's it's controversial. People will argue and
say that it's not a Christmas movie. I, however, I
come down on it is a Christmas movie, you know,
and Chuck thinks it's not.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a stretch to
make it a Christmas movie.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yet oh so you're okay, So you're like, okay, maybe,
and it's clearly the setting is Christmas time, and and that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Makes it a Christmas movie for me.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Certainly, it's not a Christmas movie like Christmas Vacation or
certainly any of the classics.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
There's you know, nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But being an Ohio representative, do you remember the Ohio connection?
Was it Diehard too, where the plane was hijacked on
the runway in the snow. I think the reporter who
was standing out there in the trench coat doing the
that was Bob Braun.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Oh Bob Bron from Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
He was Cincinnati. Yeah, took over Ruth Lions fifty to
fifty club and used to be a new show that
ran here in Colina, was on Channel four.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You gotta be old like me to remember that Bob
Bron when I was a kid. I remember Bob Bron.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Wow, right, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I didn't even realize that, Chuck, that's there's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Ohio's got this amazing with what you know, like the
Phil Donahue, Donahue.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Joe Paul Dixon was a big regional phenomenon back then too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, and then what Jerry Springer now claim him?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, politics aside, when you pay a hooker with a check,
I know, then.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Uh, Roger is Warren Ohio. I mean there's this long
tradition for for this this great state.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah kind of media.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Absolutely. Congressman Jim Jordan is joining us right now. Do
me a favorite congressman when you see forty seven, when
you see President Trump, if you could thank him personally
for me, because I paid two dollars and three cents
a gallon earlier today, I know, I was like, wow,
I'm filling up my truck for h yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Gosh, I mean it was. I think it was.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It would be around twelve dollars cheap or something, maybe
even more than that, maybe like fifteen dollars cheaper. Yeah,
And I said, you've got to be kidding me. But
gas prices down down down right now. But you know what,
nobody wants to focus on that in the media. Nobody
wants to talk about that. They want to focus on
did you send a second explosion to the guys that
(07:18):
were floating helplessly who were doing nothing wrong, you know,
drugs bringing drugs via boat, yeah, across the ocean, And
you know, everybody wants to focus on that right now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know, this has got to be Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think about guys like you and Congressman Balderson and
all the all the good guys who are part of
are you know, who are part of our congress right now?
And I think about you guys and all of these
different stupid narratives that keep coming up to try to
take away from anything good that this current president is doing.
And but when I say anything good, it's lots of
(07:53):
good that's going on, and they all they want to
do is deflect, deflect, deflect.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, No, the one thing that you know, Democrats, and
it's been this way for ten years, is going after
President Trump and they can never get him credit for,
as you point out, the just unbelievably uh low gas prices.
We're now seeing President Trump's an amazing job on on
the inflation. The problem is, under Biden went up, it
was record levels of increases to the cost of goods
and service. It's just unbelievable inflation. And now he's brought
(08:20):
it down, but it's still too high. So but but
we'll get there. I do think when the big beautiful
bill fully kicks in the tax cuts, the regulatory reform,
the energy policy reform, that we're going to see our
economy improve even even more than it already had because
of these good policies that we that we put in place.
But uh yeah, they're never gonna they're never gonna, you know,
give their give the president any credit. I mean, for
(08:41):
goodness sake, they shut down the government for a month
and a half to go after the president. They tried
to say it was about healthcare, but it was really
about going after the president. So that's the one thing
that's that united the Democrats for like I said, for
the last decade, how are.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You feeling about Uh, let's see what are we at
around a week and a half or so roughly that
Jack Smith is going.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
To be deposed under oath?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, And I mean, how are you take us through
your mindset going into this? Obviously without divulging you know
too much or what have you, but how do you
feel this is going to go or it's just going
to be a big stone wall thing from him and
his people or whatever.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
No, I think he wants to come in and talk.
And so we're doing the first one as a deposition
behind closed doors, and then we'll look to do potentially
do an open hearing. But I mean, one one line
of question I think is real obvious. You subpoenaed the
phone records for the Speaker of the House after he
was named as the Speaker of the House that's been
the top Republican in our government back in twenty three,
(09:40):
and you subpoenaed those those records for two months determining,
you know, you could get when he called, who he
talked to, who called him, how long the call lasted,
and if if the Speaker initiated the call, you could
figure out where he was when he when he made
that call, So you can pattern a person's life. So
they did that for the Top Republican they did it
for me that the Top Republican Legistrary Committee for two
(10:03):
and a half years sim went all went back to
January twenty twenty. So I think there's an obvious line
of questioning there. We've already toposed three of his deputies.
One of them we refer to the to the Justice
Department for obstructing our investigation. So I think there's lots
of things we want to ask about. But he'll be
coming into nine nine days and we're preparing for and
(10:24):
getting ready for that deposition.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And I think maybe the representative from Tennessee, if I'm
not mistaken, said they not only were listening to calls
and doing transcripts, but pinging locations of everyone as they
were intercend from these calls. That sounded very scary.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
No good question, they weren't getting the content of the call.
But you can pattern someone's life if you know every
morning Mark is calling you, and every afternoon he's calling
his wife, and then he's you, and you know where
he's at when he's making those calls. That's kind of
creepy that the government's getting that information on you. And
then to also figure out every time you text again,
(11:01):
not the content of the text messages, but every time
you text, and who you text too, that's also that's
what they got that information. And then they told the carrier, oh,
by the way, you can't tell your customer that the
government is getting that information on them. They put a
gag order on the carriers on Verizon and AT and
T again, I think pretty frightening stuff.
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