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December 1, 2025 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's bring him in. He's Congressman Jim Jordan. Who is
You were in Italy last week? Correct?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (00:07):
How did you know that?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
How did I know that?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Let me see, man, you are like journalists, You're like man.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
The Italians called and they told us that.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, well we have we have two of our of
our eight grandchildren are over there. So we went over
to see our son in law daughter and like I said,
two our great kids.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
So tell me about that. So where where were you exactly?
If you can say, and then uh, yeah, talk to
us about because I've never been over there, and it's
definitely a bucket list thing. I mean, it's yeah, tell
us about it.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
We've actually we've we've been a couple of times before
because our other daughter lived in Italy for a while.
She's heard her husband in the military, and so they
were there, and so we went this time to see
our younger daughter and her husband who also happened to
live there now and so he he plays professional basketball
in the Italian league. So we got to watch a game,
which is great. They won tight game, eighty four eighty two,

(01:03):
so that was fun. And then we got I mean,
you know it is when you're a grandparent, the best
time to spend a time with with our with our
grand kids. So it was all good. But the Italian
food is good, there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
So we had a wat and there are people who
talk about how, you know, food over there, it's just
it's different the way it hits you because of less
you know, preservatives and you know, all the things that
we say are the reason why you know, Americans buy
and large are just you know, overweight, and it just

(01:35):
seems like, you know, you'd think all that heavy Italian food,
the pasta, the all that, you know, the carb rich
you know, but but it's weird how and I've heard
this from everybody who goes over there. They're like, it's
just different. It sits in your gut differently. It's just
different the way it hits and it's absolutely amazing. It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, no, it was good, and it's sort of like,
you know, it's like old school places because our son
in law is real health conscious and so we like
you shop at certain shops to get the meat and
the guy you see him slice it up and sort
of kind of the old school way of doing things.
So that was kind of cool, and you're right. I
mean we've traveled to uh with with congressional delegations six
different times, even to Israel, and the same thing with

(02:18):
Mediterranean food. It's it's it's it's you feel healthier at
everything else or just something about it. So yeah, it
was it was similar to that.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, I noticed when just on a small scale. For instance,
last let's see, well it was a year ago September,
for the first time ever, we went to Los Cabos
and we were in Mexico, which is the Bara Peninsula there,
and my wife and I were even talking about it,
like it is just it's different their food. It's doesn't

(02:48):
have the all the preservatives you can just take. It
doesn't take. It doesn't feel like you're eating junk, even
if you're eating something that suspect that you would eat
in the US and go, oh my gosh, I feel
like I have an actual rock sitting in my stomach,
you know, after eating It's weird, but it's it's like
different regulations the way things you know, happen. So anyway, yeah,

(03:10):
I guess, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
You guys had I hope you all had a great
Thanksgiving too. I don't know that. I mean, norm of
this is the first Thanksgiving Paulin and I were talking
about it is the first Thanksgiving. I think we were
not home since college, which is forty years ago. So
it's like, you know, you're always home for I mean,
I love being home for Thanksgiving. But we had we
wanted to see, like I said, we want to see
our family and some our grand kids. So we decided it's.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Great, that's fantastic. Absolutely, and yeah, ours was great. And
I don't know how long you did this. You may
have done it at one point or whatever, but double
duty for us. I mean, you know, we have we
start on my side of the family and we're there
at noon and then you know, we we end up
at three o'clock at Jenny's side or like her parents,
and it's like, okay, here we go again. So it's

(03:58):
like turkey and deviled eggs and oh my gosh, the
candy yams and.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Holy cow, it's it becomes a workout eating. It becomes
a workout.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Holy cow, it does. Man. It's like, uh yeah, if
the goal that day for me, Congressman was like, I
was like, you know, how if you start you can
get the meat sweats, like you start getting too much
fuel in your furnace. And I was like, my my
goal for the day is to not just have continuous meat. Yeah,
and I accomplished that. I'm very proud. Yeah, yeah, I'm

(04:29):
happy about that, absolutely for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Now, what movies do you like? What movies do you got?
You always watch a movie on I remember when I
was a kid, it was like with your grade school
it was like I remember Kitty Chitty Bang Bang with
a movie you watched, but we actually watched, uh just
we watched late that night when when the grand kid
with the bed on, we watched Planes, Trains and Automobile,
which is you know a classic you just got you

(04:53):
love that Steve Martin and dog Candy. So we watched
that what's a wonderful Christian Christmas show called the Star
It was animated with with with the grand kids. That
was really good. Yea, but yeah, we always got to
watch a few movies too, and that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Planes Trains and Automobiles My absolute favorite scene. They're going
down the road and they have gotten on the exit
ramp and clearly they're going the wrong way. So the
people are next to them and they're like looking over
and waving and they're like, you're going the wrong way.
And they're like, thank you, John Candy, thank you, and
he's like, you know, you know, doing the hand motion

(05:29):
like they've been drinking. Thank you. And then he's like,
how do they know where we're going? Yea, so great?

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It was good.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh yeah, I love it for sure. And then you know,
we beat Michigan over the week. I mean there's so much.
I mean, we go into the Big House and we
take care of business, and now we've got a date
with Indiana in Indianapolis on Saturday, the Big Ten Championship.
Finally Ohio State. Everything is right with the world right now, Congressman.

(05:58):
And on paper, it looks like we're going to run
the table. Are we going to repeat the Natty? Certainly
that's why we play.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
The game, So yeah, of course, you know, I think
it sure looks like that that's going to be the case,
which'd be great. Yeah, but I saw it were college
game d I just have to scrolling through the news,
and College Game Day is going to They're going to
the SEC game instead of that. They said, well, you know,
we were at Michigan Ohiopate last week, but like you know,
you got the number one and two teams. You're not
going to have college game Day at at Indianapolis. We're

(06:24):
the Big Ten championship game. That seem kind of different
to me too, But no, it'll be a fun, fun
week of watching watching sports.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm with you on that. It didn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Does that mean no, gust Johnson for US, I.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Don't know who's calling it. It is Fox, it will
be Fox, and of course College Game Day is ESPN,
but I don't know. I just know it's Fox. I
don't know is going to be college.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
He may be doing the big noon kick off somewhere
doing something and not able to do that night game.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Then sure, yeah, oh I might enjoy this game. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know how that's going to happen.
I do know that I love the one tweet. This
was from a few days ago. Congressman. It's it won't
cost you as much to drive home for Thanksgiving this year.
Thank you, President Trump. And the fact that you were
basically kind of you were retweeting or at least a

(07:15):
screenshot of ABC News. I was like, what. ABC News
actually admitted that gas prices are our nearest lowest level
in four years. I can't believe they actually admitted it.
I saw a dollar ninety seven when I was coming back. Yes,
we were, Jenny and I went to we were in
Michigan on Friday and we went up there and stayed overnight,

(07:37):
had a date night and stayed over at MGM Grand
there and we went up and hung out in Detroit
and on our way back, I saw sub two dollars gas.
I was like, I told Jenny, I go, look at this.
Look you're telling me the president doesn't make a difference.
I was like, yeah, you know, she's like, take it easy,
take it.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
You're not aldy a gallon today. And I got excited
at dollar ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah. Man, it was like Ottawa or Fendlay somewhere like
on the along the way or whatever. But that's fantastic,
And yes, thank you President Trump. It's amazing what's happening.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, it is. I mean one of the concerns is
inflation was so high. Prices went up so much under
Biden that you know, President Trump has brought them down
I think tremendously. In the example you gave is probably
the best with the gas prices, but it's still tough
on families. And so what we're trying to we're trying
to work on ways we can bring down the cost
of healthcare, other things we can do. This whole affordability

(08:29):
issue that we're hearing so much about. That we're hearing
about because it's real and when you have the kind
of inflation we have under four years of Biden, where
they just spent and spent and spent, it's tough to
bring it down. But President Trump's doing a great job
and making a difference, as you said, with gas prices
and I think with other prices as well. It's just tough.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Concurse you mentioned the healthcare thing. Can you give us
like a nutshell of what you know about this whole
trump Care concept right now? Or is it still just
very much in the idea stage.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
No, I think it's I think it's the latter. But
I mean the key is subsidies don't bring down cost,
and that's what the Democrats want to do. That's what
they set the government down over because's what they said.
I think it was mostly just to go after President Trump.
Subsidies never bring down cost. Competition and choice brings down costs.
So we need greater ability for for for consumers for
families to get health savors accounts, great ability to form

(09:16):
association health plans, which gives you market power buying power,
greater abilities to get high deductible plans that fit the
needs of younger families. They don't. Younger families just want
to know if there's something really bad happens to our
son or our daughter or our family, that there's there's
a there's coverage for that that you know, real illness.

(09:36):
That's that Those are the kind of plans that I
think younger, healthier people want to have, and they're much
they're much cheaper. So those are the kind of things
that we need to be doing. Not extending the expansion
of Obamacare to insurance companies. I mean, that makes no
sense to me. Obamacare, which they told us was going
to bring down premiums, well, for goodness sake, if that

(09:57):
was the case, why do we have to expand a
subsidy and extend the expansion on premius. It makes no
sense whatsoever. So that's that's the kind of thing we
have to focus.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
So were you and the time frame you may have
been in Italy when Mom Donnie was at the White
House where you like, So what were your thoughts. What
was your takeaway on that, because I predicted I was like, Oh,
everybody gets your popcorn, we're gonna have some fireworks. And
I couldn't have been further from what actually happened there,
which I'm actually happy about because when you think about, Look,

(10:29):
they've got a President Trump. There's no question he loves
New York City. I mean, that's that's his stomping grounds.
And he would love nothing more than for New Yorkers
to catch a break and not continue to get hit
over the head by you know, every facet of anything
with the economy, there's no question how crazy it is
just to move around exist forget about living there in

(10:51):
the city or whatever. But I thought it was I
thought it was really I mean, it was so big
the way that everything finally went down, and it took
the wind out of a lot of Democrat sales, I
think with regard to that, if they wanted Mom Donnie
to attack him or something.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, and President Trump was so gracious. Uh and and frankly,
that's always been my experience around the President. He's like
I tell folks all the time, you know, I wish everyone,
every America could spend some time with him, because when
you're around him, you can't literally you cannot help but
lik ingim his he's just a gracious host. And I
think that was what he was doing there. He's just
a nice person.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
And and was was being polite to the the incoming
mayor of you know, of our of our biggest city,
so in the city that, as you said, was was
President Trump's home for so many years. I just think
that's how how he likes to operate. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
And as far as mom, mom, Donnie Mom, Donnie goes,
you know, just because you're socialists and you're wrong on
all your policies doesn't mean you can't put a smile
on your face and come across as a as a
you know, decent enough person.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's his policies that are bad. So uh well, we'll see.
But I thought, yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting,
interesting get together that they had there in the Oval Office.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
The hardline to walk. I mean, they made nice at
this meeting. And Trump loves New York and he doesn't
want the people of New York to suffer. But at
the same time, he's got to show the people of
New York that what you're following here and voting for
this man is absolutely the right path. I don't know
how you do that.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
And then all of a sudden, also I thought an
interesting take to Congressman was it's like, don't uh, I guess,
don't start attacking him as of yet, because of look,
we all know the policies he's going to try to
he's going to try to put in place. It's just idiocy,
all of it. It's all pipe dream most of it anyway,
And it's like, well, he hasn't really tried to do

(12:35):
that yet. He ran on that. And then when he
tries to do it, or if he gets some of
it through and it's crash and burned, then I guess
the president can go, see, we told you this is silly,
Like what are you doing, You're wasting time, This isn't
gonna work, so on and so forth. But until then,
it's like, okay, reserve that to make.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Him ask for help. Yeah, I was wrong, I'm saying
he's That's what it's gonna my KOPA. I screwed this up.
I need your help. That's what it's gonna come down to.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think, Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
And remember he's going to have some people on the
council are going to push back the Police commissioner going
to push back on all his crazy ideas on on
you know, defunding the police and everything else. So there's
there's reasonable people in the government there who are going
to push back on some of these things he campaigned on.
So I think that I think you're right the present
sort of taken this. Well, we'll see and we can

(13:20):
be nicer to start, and then we'll see what crazy
things he actually tries to do.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I think Hokeel already said some She kind of shot
some stuff down. I think pretty much straightway away immediately. Yeah,
it's like that's not happening, you know, or whatever. It's
just funny how people but I don't even know. Look,
you don't get to where he's at being a complete idiot.
His ideas may be stupid or what have you. He

(13:45):
can't possibly and you run on that and you get
people to believe in that, and then you know it's
the bait and switch, which is the typical. It seems like.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Political cleete idiot thing man AOC popped right into my head.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh that's right, that's a great point. That's certainly a
great point. Congressman Jim Jordan, thank you for jumping on.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
With you today.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I appreciate you. See you man
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