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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is called potentially the world's worst one mile running challenge,
and I tend to agree with it. By the way,
let's bring in Alex Stone from ABC News, and Alex,
are you a runner?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I am not any running challenge chounds horrible?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good man, good man.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You know, once upon a time I used to run
like three miles a day, So any given week, I
literally it was like every well five days. I would
take the weekends off, so I was running fifteen miles
a week, which there are so many people that smoke that.
I mean, they're like that, Yeah, the three miles that
(00:41):
I start with are backwards? Do you run those forward?
You know? Or whatever?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Fifteen miles a week and you weren't being chased? Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, No, And that was on a that was on
a treadmill and then I had this whole thing with
my leg and it's awful anyway, So I like, how
they are you looking for inspiration to get better time
on your one minute mile? No, perhaps you'd be interested
in the reaper mile, as they're calling it. And I
(01:12):
guess there's uh far fetched fitness on TikTok. Not familiar
with it because I can count on one hand how
many times I've been on TikTok and if I was
on there, it'd be because Stone was showing me something
or or what have you. I don't have it on
my phone. Do you have TikTok on your phone?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I do, Alex, I do not know. I've never used
TikTok Okay. I don't even use Instagram, so I'm kind
of old.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
School in that way.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, I mean, I have Insta on mine and I
have an account, but I never post anything. It's been years,
it's i've even posted anything. So what is this reaper mile?
And by the way, the Insta thing, the only time
I've been on there is to see Britney like dancing
or something. I'm like, yes, Speers, I'm like, oh, I
got to see this. She's crazy, Like, we haven't a
wardrobe malfunction yet. Come on, Britney, come on.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I'm thinking they make you eat a reaper pepper and
put a glass of water a mile away.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I think I think he actually googled that. Guess exactly
what the story is.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Is that really what it is?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh my gods, even sound safe like your mouth is
going to be on fire. You can't, You're not breathing
right that that's really what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So what you do is you eat an entire Carolina
reaper pepper, which is, by the way, the second hottest
pepper on the planet. I don't what's the other one.
I don't know where the Scotch bonnet is at the
Scotch bottom.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Once you get to the point where it's painful, I
don't like them ghost peppers and all that stuff, you know, appeal.
I'll go to the jalapeno route now and then, but that's
enough for me.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, you like the hot peppers, Alex.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, I do, but not that hot.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I get sauce.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I love hot sauces, but not where it's just ridiculously painful.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Do you So when you get do you eat wings?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So do you get them hot like at the place
wherever you're at?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I like them a little spicy, but again, I don't
want to be in pain. My family will tell you.
I love to be in pain when I eat peppers
because I used to be a lot more into them,
but now I'm kind of like, I want to taste
a flavor too.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, did you back down some? Because as you get older,
you know, your gut doesn't react the same.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think, yeah, no, I don't think it was that.
It just it just isn't as enjoyable any longer. But
I still like Kalapanio's and yeah, I'll definitely add those
onto things.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But this sounds horrible.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So you eat, you eat an entire Carolina Reaper pepper.
Then the one mile journey begins. That's where they there's
a jug of milk or water waiting at the finish
line a mile away. Chuck nailed it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I was trying to be funny. I can't believe somebody's
actually doing that. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And this is on the heels of people eating tide pods,
you know, or you know, trying to swallow a spoonful
of cinnamon or all these dumb things they do on TikTok.
This doesn't I didn't even flinch when I saw this.
I was like, that's pretty funny. I'd like to watch
some of the video of that, because I'm sure there
are people throwing up and everything. As a matter of fact,
they say that's gross. They said, pro tip, go for
(04:08):
the milk, by the way, it'll break up the heat
more effectively than water. And don't be surprised if you
don't pute before you reach the one full mile.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I just can't believe you can breathe effectively while you're running,
That you don't have to have eaten something hot that
you're breathing is a little weird.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I got to tell you. They do not say anywhere
in this story that, yeah, you're breathing won't be effective,
So you could be right, Alex. I mean, I think
that that is most likely something that occurs, because think
about it. If you're running a mile and I don't
know if yeah, they don't put like a time limit going, yeah,
if you can, you know, a twelve minute mile or
that's all I was running when I ran too. I mean,
(04:45):
I wasn't like burning up the you know, because people
talk about, you know, eight minute miles, seven minutes they're flying,
you know to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No, Now, when I go to the gym, if I
do it, it's yeah, usually like twelve minutes, nothing too amazing.
I enjoy my peloton bike, but I don't. I don't
run the treadmill very often.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I think I did it in like nine minutes and
forty seconds once and that was like eighth grade. I
believe we had to run a mile in laps around
the gym to graduate gym.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, and I hated that in Pe, the mile run,
and especially when it would be like fall out here
fall when it was like one hundred degrees and they
would be like, nope, keep going. I was like, this
is not fun.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Then. I always hated too. They would they would say,
you know, grab that TV and let's see how fast
you can run a mile after you grab that TV.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And so were you a looting class?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That was like, way, what, oh I get it? Yeah,
you were taking looting looting one oh one.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah. I didn't do so well with that either. As
far as that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Good advanced to armed robbery one o.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Two exactly, I think, so, yeah, I did. Let me check, No,
I didn't do that. What am I talking about so
many law enforcement listening to the show. I was no,
I didn't do anything, not at all. So, yeah, we're
seeing some stuff come out today with regard to this
the ICE saw of a shooting that happened in Dallas
(06:04):
yesterday morning. And I know that there's more things, more developments,
if you will. Was there did they do a presser already?
They did?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, we just got an update and a lot of
new details that are out that the investigators believe the
shooter acted alone, the twenty nine year old guy, and
they say that they can see on surveillance video that
he arrived at around three in the morning and had
a ladder on the top of his car and went
up at that point and took his perch, knowing that
ICE vehicles would be arriving at around six thirty with
(06:33):
detainees from their early morning operations around the Dallas area,
and that knowing they were going to be pulling in
in a caravan, that he had done a lot of
reconnaissance on it and knew how this whole thing went.
So as they pulled in, he opened fire. They believed
that he thought he was firing at agents and nodded detainees.
The acting US Attorney Nancy Larson, She says they found
(06:53):
a bunch of handwritten notes in his apartment and she
laid them out.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
One of these notes or papers, the sniper explicitly states, yes,
it was just me. That statement appears to be correct
at this point in the investigation. Notably, these loose notes
included a game plan of the attack and target areas.
At the facility. He called the ICE employees people showing
(07:20):
up to collect a dirty paycheck. He wrote that he
intended to maximize lethality against ICE personnel.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
They say his notes made it clear he wanted to
inflict real terror on ICE agents so that they would
be watching their backs when they were out on the
street and induce stress on their lives, he expressed in
the notes he turned for the federal government, but said
that they don't think he has any connection or had
any connection to bigger groups, sort of a bigger ideology.
They've said it was clearly domestic terrorism, but not in
(07:49):
the sense of being linked to a bigger group, which
typically terrorism would need to be to be defined that legally.
But they say he did research the building and movements
and had ICE agent tracking apps on his phone. I
guess they're out there where people can report in where
they see ICE agents, and that he had those The
FBI special Agent and charge Joe Rothrock laying it out
(08:09):
he knew.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
With a high likelihood ICE detainees would be transported that
morning in the exact location where he was facing from
his perch on a nearby rooftop.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The guy had a bolt action rifle that he bought
legally back in August. But they also say in all
of this, guys, that ICE and ATF agents were heroes yesterday,
that the injured and the dead detainees they were shackled
in the van, they could not get out on their own,
They were trapped in there as a gunfire was coming in,
and that the agents went into the line of fire
to rescue those detainees who were stuck in the van
(08:40):
and they couldn't get away from the gunfire, so they
got them out of.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
The agents from both ICE and the ATF put themselves
in the line of fire to move individuals off the
transportation vehicles in an attempt to protect and rescue those
that were injured. I want to thank them for their bravery.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So they jumped into action there. But the casualty count
remains one detainee killed, two others critically injured. But they
say it is clear or the target was the agents.
They believe he had been planning this attack for many
months and he got it wrong and got teenies instead
of the agents. But still they're collecting evidence, and they say, guys,
they don't know how many shots were fired. They're still
putting all of that together, but they think very much.
(09:15):
So he was going after the agent.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
How far is that building? Roughly? Did did they say?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, it's just across the streets door, Yeah, across the street,
but it's it's not right there, but it's also not
it's not as long of a shot as you know,
say in Utah with Charlie Kirk, that was a much
longer shot.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
This was more right there. I am in shock, Alex
that part of this report saying there were searches on
apps that track ice agents. How in the hell, what
like why would there be Look, you can agree or
not agree with all of that, all all of those things.
There should not be apps in this situation. And there
are people who are going to say, you know, ice
(09:52):
agents are no better than you know, rats or whatever.
But as far as the I am in shock that
those are available for like me or you to download,
I guess it sounds like yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That I don't know, I know that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The the agents were talking about it today and the
investigators saying that these are openly available apps, that that
it's kind of like a traffic app where you know,
people report in that there's an accident here, there's a
cop speed trap over here that that these apps are
used the same way where somebody says, hey, I see
activity here, I see activity there, and it lets people
know and apparently he was using those apps.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, you would think also in that situation by the
time somebody sees that unless they literally were within thirty
seconds of but it's gone, yeah, yeah, it's kind of
like do.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
What they do move really quickly?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
You know?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Right here in Columbus about that, I don't know. A
year ago, less than a year ago when all of
those we had we had Facebook groups that were if
you see ice, get on here, and people were doing
live videos from around Columbus with suspected ice vans rolling
up to various Latino restaurants and so forth, especially on
the North side. And uh yeah, I mean it's you
(10:58):
are you're interfering in and you know the course of
justice when you're doing this kind of stuff. I can't
believe they do it without repercussion.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Any motive like go ahead out ex I was just
gonna say.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
The other problem is now everything that members of the
public see is reported in as being ice, and you know,
so often it's not. It could be a search Warren
being executed by a police department or a sheriff's department
or the FBI, something totally unrelated. But now there are
those who jump directly to it's an ICE operation. And
we've seen that around LA where the LAPD is like, no,
(11:29):
you know, we're doing what we do every day and
going after criminals. It has nothing to do whatever such
and such operation that they're working on, and people start
recording it and saying it's ICE and it's not. So
you know, it's not always correct either that people are
putting this out there and then it turns out it's
something totally unrelated.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Was he Hispanic or something? I mean, did he have
family members?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They say he was a legal US citizen, had never
been picked up by ICE or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
They don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But his friends say that he wasn't all that political.
But yeah, the agent said today, the special agent charge, well,
he clearly had hatred, even if his friends didn't think
that he was all that political. But yeah, it was Hispanic.
But other than that, they don't know of any connection
back to his family.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
He everybody was here legally.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I mean, that sounds like, yeah, that's a good motive
as any as far as he's like, yeah, I don't
want my brothers and sisters being picked up, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Or what?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I don't think they've gotten that far yet, but I mean,
they found all these notes and it lays a lot out,
so they're going through them.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Now, all right. I like stone ABC News out of
Los Angeles with the very latest on that Texas Ice
office shooting. Alex, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Go eat a pepper, bye, guys.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
All right, So, yeah, there's too much of it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know that we had the idiot that was tracking
elon musk Jet everywhere he went.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The president has to put out a public schedule otherwise
they think he's hiding something, so we know where he's
going to be. But I don't know when you're talking about, Okay,
law enforcement's coming.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's just is there.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Shouldn't be any warning on that. Yeah, if they're picking
up ice, no, no, no, no, no, there should be
no app where you can track them. There's way too
many crazy just and I'm talking in general, even if
they weren't under scrutiny, fire, under a microscope, all of that.
Right now, there is no way anybody should be able
to track damn near real time those people at all.
(13:23):
Same with I'm gonna like anybody in in you know, Congress,
or any of that that that shouldn't be there, should
be none of that available. It's just too crazy right
now at any point. Quite frankly but
This is called potentially the world's worst one mile running challenge,
and I tend to agree with it. By the way,
let's bring in Alex Stone from ABC News, and Alex,
are you a runner?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I am not any running challenge chounds horrible?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good man, good man.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You know, once upon a time I used to run
like three miles a day, So any given week, I
literally it was like every well five days. I would
take the weekends off, so I was running fifteen miles
a week, which there are so many people that smoke that.
I mean, they're like that, Yeah, the three miles that
(00:41):
I start with are backwards? Do you run those forward?
You know? Or whatever?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Fifteen miles a week and you weren't being chased? Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, No, And that was on a that was on
a treadmill and then I had this whole thing with
my leg and it's awful anyway, So I like, how
they are you looking for inspiration to get better time
on your one minute mile? No, perhaps you'd be interested
in the reaper mile, as they're calling it. And I
(01:12):
guess there's uh far fetched fitness on TikTok. Not familiar
with it because I can count on one hand how
many times I've been on TikTok and if I was
on there, it'd be because Stone was showing me something
or or what have you. I don't have it on
my phone. Do you have TikTok on your phone?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I do, Alex, I do not know. I've never used
TikTok Okay. I don't even use Instagram, so I'm kind
of old.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
School in that way.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, I mean, I have Insta on mine and I
have an account, but I never post anything. It's been years,
it's i've even posted anything. So what is this reaper mile?
And by the way, the Insta thing, the only time
I've been on there is to see Britney like dancing
or something. I'm like, yes, Speers, I'm like, oh, I
got to see this. She's crazy, Like, we haven't a
wardrobe malfunction yet. Come on, Britney, come on.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I'm thinking they make you eat a reaper pepper and
put a glass of water a mile away.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I think I think he actually googled that. Guess exactly
what the story is.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Is that really what it is?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh my gods, even sound safe like your mouth is
going to be on fire. You can't, You're not breathing
right that that's really what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So what you do is you eat an entire Carolina
reaper pepper, which is, by the way, the second hottest
pepper on the planet. I don't what's the other one.
I don't know where the Scotch bonnet is at the
Scotch bottom.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Once you get to the point where it's painful, I
don't like them ghost peppers and all that stuff, you know, appeal.
I'll go to the jalapeno route now and then, but that's
enough for me.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, you like the hot peppers, Alex.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, I do, but not that hot.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I get sauce.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I love hot sauces, but not where it's just ridiculously painful.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Do you So when you get do you eat wings?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So do you get them hot like at the place
wherever you're at?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I like them a little spicy, but again, I don't
want to be in pain. My family will tell you.
I love to be in pain when I eat peppers
because I used to be a lot more into them,
but now I'm kind of like, I want to taste
a flavor too.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, did you back down some? Because as you get older,
you know, your gut doesn't react the same.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think, yeah, no, I don't think it was that.
It just it just isn't as enjoyable any longer. But
I still like Kalapanio's and yeah, I'll definitely add those
onto things.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But this sounds horrible.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So you eat, you eat an entire Carolina Reaper pepper.
Then the one mile journey begins. That's where they there's
a jug of milk or water waiting at the finish
line a mile away. Chuck nailed it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I was trying to be funny. I can't believe somebody's
actually doing that. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And this is on the heels of people eating tide pods,
you know, or you know, trying to swallow a spoonful
of cinnamon or all these dumb things they do on TikTok.
This doesn't I didn't even flinch when I saw this.
I was like, that's pretty funny. I'd like to watch
some of the video of that, because I'm sure there
are people throwing up and everything. As a matter of fact,
they say that's gross. They said, pro tip, go for
(04:08):
the milk, by the way, it'll break up the heat
more effectively than water. And don't be surprised if you
don't pute before you reach the one full mile.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I just can't believe you can breathe effectively while you're running,
That you don't have to have eaten something hot that
you're breathing is a little weird.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I got to tell you. They do not say anywhere
in this story that, yeah, you're breathing won't be effective,
So you could be right, Alex. I mean, I think
that that is most likely something that occurs, because think
about it. If you're running a mile and I don't
know if yeah, they don't put like a time limit going, yeah,
if you can, you know, a twelve minute mile or
that's all I was running when I ran too. I mean,
(04:45):
I wasn't like burning up the you know, because people
talk about, you know, eight minute miles, seven minutes they're flying,
you know to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No, Now, when I go to the gym, if I
do it, it's yeah, usually like twelve minutes, nothing too amazing.
I enjoy my peloton bike, but I don't. I don't
run the treadmill very often.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I think I did it in like nine minutes and
forty seconds once and that was like eighth grade. I
believe we had to run a mile in laps around
the gym to graduate gym.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, and I hated that in Pe, the mile run,
and especially when it would be like fall out here
fall when it was like one hundred degrees and they
would be like, nope, keep going. I was like, this
is not fun.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Then. I always hated too. They would they would say,
you know, grab that TV and let's see how fast
you can run a mile after you grab that TV.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And so were you a looting class?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That was like, way, what, oh I get it? Yeah,
you were taking looting looting one oh one.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah. I didn't do so well with that either. As
far as that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Good advanced to armed robbery one o.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Two exactly, I think, so, yeah, I did. Let me check, No,
I didn't do that. What am I talking about so
many law enforcement listening to the show. I was no,
I didn't do anything, not at all. So, yeah, we're
seeing some stuff come out today with regard to this
the ICE saw of a shooting that happened in Dallas
(06:04):
yesterday morning. And I know that there's more things, more developments,
if you will. Was there did they do a presser already?
They did?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, we just got an update and a lot of
new details that are out that the investigators believe the
shooter acted alone, the twenty nine year old guy, and
they say that they can see on surveillance video that
he arrived at around three in the morning and had
a ladder on the top of his car and went
up at that point and took his perch, knowing that
ICE vehicles would be arriving at around six thirty with
(06:33):
detainees from their early morning operations around the Dallas area,
and that knowing they were going to be pulling in
in a caravan, that he had done a lot of
reconnaissance on it and knew how this whole thing went.
So as they pulled in, he opened fire. They believed
that he thought he was firing at agents and nodded detainees.
The acting US Attorney Nancy Larson, She says they found
(06:53):
a bunch of handwritten notes in his apartment and she
laid them out.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
One of these notes or papers, the sniper explicitly states, yes,
it was just me. That statement appears to be correct
at this point in the investigation. Notably, these loose notes
included a game plan of the attack and target areas.
At the facility. He called the ICE employees people showing
(07:20):
up to collect a dirty paycheck. He wrote that he
intended to maximize lethality against ICE personnel.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
They say his notes made it clear he wanted to
inflict real terror on ICE agents so that they would
be watching their backs when they were out on the
street and induce stress on their lives, he expressed in
the notes he turned for the federal government, but said
that they don't think he has any connection or had
any connection to bigger groups, sort of a bigger ideology.
They've said it was clearly domestic terrorism, but not in
(07:49):
the sense of being linked to a bigger group, which
typically terrorism would need to be to be defined that legally.
But they say he did research the building and movements
and had ICE agent tracking apps on his phone. I
guess they're out there where people can report in where
they see ICE agents, and that he had those The
FBI special Agent and charge Joe Rothrock laying it out
(08:09):
he knew.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
With a high likelihood ICE detainees would be transported that
morning in the exact location where he was facing from
his perch on a nearby rooftop.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The guy had a bolt action rifle that he bought
legally back in August. But they also say in all
of this, guys, that ICE and ATF agents were heroes yesterday,
that the injured and the dead detainees they were shackled
in the van, they could not get out on their own,
They were trapped in there as a gunfire was coming in,
and that the agents went into the line of fire
to rescue those detainees who were stuck in the van
(08:40):
and they couldn't get away from the gunfire, so they
got them out of.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
The agents from both ICE and the ATF put themselves
in the line of fire to move individuals off the
transportation vehicles in an attempt to protect and rescue those
that were injured. I want to thank them for their bravery.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So they jumped into action there. But the casualty count
remains one detainee killed, two others critically injured. But they
say it is clear or the target was the agents.
They believe he had been planning this attack for many
months and he got it wrong and got teenies instead
of the agents. But still they're collecting evidence, and they say, guys,
they don't know how many shots were fired. They're still
putting all of that together, but they think very much.
(09:15):
So he was going after the agent.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
How far is that building? Roughly? Did did they say?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
No, it's just across the streets door, Yeah, across the street,
but it's it's not right there, but it's also not
it's not as long of a shot as you know,
say in Utah with Charlie Kirk, that was a much
longer shot.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
This was more right there. I am in shock, Alex
that part of this report saying there were searches on
apps that track ice agents. How in the hell, what
like why would there be Look, you can agree or
not agree with all of that, all all of those things.
There should not be apps in this situation. And there
are people who are going to say, you know, ice
(09:52):
agents are no better than you know, rats or whatever.
But as far as the I am in shock that
those are available for like me or you to download,
I guess it sounds like yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That I don't know, I know that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The the agents were talking about it today and the
investigators saying that these are openly available apps, that that
it's kind of like a traffic app where you know,
people report in that there's an accident here, there's a
cop speed trap over here that that these apps are
used the same way where somebody says, hey, I see
activity here, I see activity there, and it lets people
know and apparently he was using those apps.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, you would think also in that situation by the
time somebody sees that unless they literally were within thirty
seconds of but it's gone, yeah, yeah, it's kind of
like do.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
What they do move really quickly?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
You know?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Right here in Columbus about that, I don't know. A
year ago, less than a year ago when all of
those we had we had Facebook groups that were if
you see ice, get on here, and people were doing
live videos from around Columbus with suspected ice vans rolling
up to various Latino restaurants and so forth, especially on
the North side. And uh yeah, I mean it's you
(10:58):
are you're interfering in and you know the course of
justice when you're doing this kind of stuff. I can't
believe they do it without repercussion.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Any motive like go ahead out ex I was just
gonna say.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
The other problem is now everything that members of the
public see is reported in as being ice, and you know,
so often it's not. It could be a search Warren
being executed by a police department or a sheriff's department
or the FBI, something totally unrelated. But now there are
those who jump directly to it's an ICE operation. And
we've seen that around LA where the LAPD is like, no,
(11:29):
you know, we're doing what we do every day and
going after criminals. It has nothing to do whatever such
and such operation that they're working on, and people start
recording it and saying it's ICE and it's not. So
you know, it's not always correct either that people are
putting this out there and then it turns out it's
something totally unrelated.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Was he Hispanic or something? I mean, did he have
family members?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They say he was a legal US citizen, had never
been picked up by ICE or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
They don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But his friends say that he wasn't all that political.
But yeah, the agent said today, the special agent charge, well,
he clearly had hatred, even if his friends didn't think
that he was all that political. But yeah, it was Hispanic.
But other than that, they don't know of any connection
back to his family.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
He everybody was here legally.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I mean, that sounds like, yeah, that's a good motive
as any as far as he's like, yeah, I don't
want my brothers and sisters being picked up, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Or what?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I don't think they've gotten that far yet, but I mean,
they found all these notes and it lays a lot out,
so they're going through them.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Now, all right. I like stone ABC News out of
Los Angeles with the very latest on that Texas Ice
office shooting. Alex, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Go eat a pepper, bye, guys.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
All right, So, yeah, there's too much of it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know that we had the idiot that was tracking
elon musk Jet everywhere he went.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The president has to put out a public schedule otherwise
they think he's hiding something, so we know where he's
going to be. But I don't know when you're talking about, Okay,
law enforcement's coming.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's just is there.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Shouldn't be any warning on that. Yeah, if they're picking
up ice, no, no, no, no, no, there should be
no app where you can track them. There's way too
many crazy just and I'm talking in general, even if
they weren't under scrutiny, fire, under a microscope, all of that.
Right now, there is no way anybody should be able
to track damn near real time those people at all.
(13:23):
Same with I'm gonna like anybody in in you know, Congress,
or any of that that that shouldn't be there, should
be none of that available. It's just too crazy right
now at any point. Quite frankly but
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