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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There was a guy that has a broken arm, and
he is saying it is a result of his thing.
Is why his arm is broken? Yeah, his thing, the
thing that you're thinking, You're like, do you mean like
the thing? Yes, the thing. We're just going to refer
to it as the thing because there could be kids
(00:23):
that are within earshot. However, this story is so ridiculous.
Then I said, you know, and I've been trying to
I've been trying to make sense of this, but I
guess there's no making sense. This guy's London resident, and
his thing that he was speaking about is fourteen and
a half inches according to him, and so maybe the
(00:47):
largest thing in the world. There's a cast made of
it currently on display in a museum in Iceland. I
cannot verify that, but I didn't want to look it
up on an iHeart. To be honest, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Heard anything truthful about this story yet.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm This guy says moving too fast can affect his balance,
and in this instance, he was in the shower and
he didn't see the shower gel on the floor on
the tub because this was in the way of his eyeline.
Like he literally could not see the thing that was
(01:25):
on the floor because of the other thing, and so
as a result, it was a slip that resulted in
two broken bones in his arm and shoulder. And so
he goes on to say it was a valuable learning experience,
and he said he bought a no slip bath matt
now because of it. I have never I never in
(01:48):
my life I thought I had heard of everything. I
was like, you're really, first of all, you're telling us
that that really that's all accurate, the measurements, and then
you're going to blame that on breaking your arm. Really
seems pretty weak in the court of law with that
hold up. I just don't know if it would so meeting.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I mean, if you're going to blame one appendage for
breaking the other, I guess that's the right order to
have them.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Inn I'm just Alex Stone. ABC News is joining us,
though I know I saw the stories that You've got
to be kidding me. There's no way, There's no way.
I guess there's a there's a cast of it made
that's on display in a museum, and a museum in
(02:35):
Iceland of all places.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I'm actually I'm actually googling this.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I'm not scaring.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, I know, are going to be cut off from
your Internet.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Would they do that at a to be legitimate?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's legit?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Uh oh yeah, I know you're vetting it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'm not going to give you the the statistics on
the microphone, but I'll tell you offline this.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It looks be real.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Whoa wow, So you're vetting this and uh wow.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
There's a similar cast in Iceland, by the way, that's
also on display.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yes, but Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Hendricks, Oh, he's also gotta. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I haven't read that much detail, but there is a
cast dedicated to Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, i'd heard that about Jimmy Hendrick. You heard that,
Alex about Jimmy Hendrix. He was he was uh blessed
if you will.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Okay, Alex Stone has one.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh even Alex is Oh anyway, this is this is
really weird.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I got to stop reading this because it's.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Zach that's perfect. Yeah, that's weird. That's uh. I kind
of wanted to just think that it wasn't real and
it at that, but Chuck now has taken that away
from Yeah, so now we have to know that it's real.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So how are you doing, Alex showing on how's the weather?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Out, you guys hanging.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Not like that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, you know, I can blame all kinds of
things for a lack of balance at the stage of life,
but anyone.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
No mine usual result in standing up too fast. And yeah,
you're right, that has nothing. That's the only thing. Nothing
else to do with that. Uh. So, how's things in
your world, Alex? I mean, is it We're ninety one
right now, so we're pretty warm.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
One hundred and ten this week? What Yeah, in the
valleys around La It's it's gonna be really really hot. Wow, yeah, Tosi,
So now I can say it's too hot.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
When I was telling you it was perfect over the
last couple of weeks. Right beginning tomorrow, it's going to
go sky high.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Hey, when you see stuff like Hurricane Aaron in the
news and all of that, I mean, are you like,
cause you guys never really deal with that stuff there
For the most part, You've got your own share of
you know, natural disasters that can occur. But when you
see something like that in this time of year, especially
once they start coming fast and furious, you probably are going,
(05:15):
I'm glad I live on the left coast.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, we don't have to deal with those. We did
have a hurricane year ago, two years ago, there was
super rare. They came up the Pacific coast and it
was a tropical storm by the time it got here,
but and it was just very humid and we got
a fair amount of rain. But that was really weird
to have what was and then it degraded. But hurricane
(05:36):
come into the La area, but it came right up
the coast of Mexico and Baja California and then right
into us and it got really ready.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
But typically, no, we don't deal with that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, you know, right now with Aaron, they're saying just
the way it's going to be, just the edges, excuse me,
the edges of it, because it's not going to be
a direct hit based on what they're predicting right about now.
So the eastern seaboard is still going to get you know,
some surge and all of that stuff, but nothing like
if it was. Because this thing is massive. I don't
know how much you've been following it, but we're looking
(06:05):
at it. But it is massive. Yeah, there's somebody even
I think I saw yesterday it was like similar as
the size of the state of Ohio. I was like,
is it really that, you know what, we need to
ask Marshall that, by the way, a little bit later
that see if there's any truth to that, because I.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Think it's not coming on shore though, would be that's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, it would be really, really bad, You have no
question about that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What do they have out there? I mean we get
tornadoes in the midwestquakes from.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
The Southeast, wildfires and earthquakes.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Their share of natural disasters happened.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
They had of hurricane a year ago. I'm like, I
don't think I've ever heard of a hurricane in Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's fair.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It was pretty nuts. Yeah, it rained, it was very humid.
We don't have humidity here. It got very humid and rainy,
and that was about it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah. Is it ketamine or ketamine Ketamine queen, which makes
me think of Billy Ocean Ketamn quid. Yeah, anyway, deciding
to plead guilty. So this is pretty big news, right,
I mean, as we all know everything, Matt Perry is
no longer with us because of.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, jas been saying has her real name and so
called Ketamine Queen, that's what she was known on the
streets as, and the police and federal prosecutors have called
her that, but she is the final of the five
defendants who played a role in Matthew Perry's death to
plead guilty. All the others two doctors, an associate of hers,
and Matthew Perry's assistant, they've all pled guilty already or
(07:34):
planning to. And yeah, the LAPD has so much evidence
against her selling drugs to not only Matthew Perry, but
to a guy who died after taking her drugs in
twenty nineteen as well. So she now is saying that
she will plead guilty admitting to her crimes. Remember, they're
all accused of using Matthew Perry Friend Star is a
big piggy bank to sell them drugs over a period
(07:56):
of time. Then US Attorney Martinez Strata.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Sends took advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to enrich.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Themselves, and the allegation being that the two doctors they
were charging Perry two thousand dollars a vial for ketamine
to cost him only twelve dollars a vial, even texting
each other they wondered how much this moron was going
to pay because he was willing to pay anything to
get it, and eventually that became too expensive for Perry
and they turned to Jazzviine saying Ha to get their
fix through her intermediary, Eric Fleming and Stratasan. Not only
(08:28):
did Sangha sell the fatal dose, but also tried to
hide her tracks and destroyed all the evidence.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Sanham began sending text messages to Fleming, a co defendant,
and telling him to delete all messages.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And she allegedly gave Perry a sample and then followed
up with fifty vials of ketamine and was paid cash
for those fifty vials. He was so addicted that he
just he would pay anything for this stuff, telling our
Diane Sawyer before his death.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Your disease is just outside, just doing one arm push ups.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Just waiting, just waiting for you, waiting to get you along.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
And her attorney, by the way, is Mark Gerago, the
attorney for the Menendez brothers. They have a parole hearing
later this week, so he's got a busy week. But
really this all probably came down to that the other
defendants in the case are played in guilty. Part of
the deal was that they would testify against her. Our
legal anilst Brian Buckmyer saying, it gets to a point
where when you're the last one standing and everybody else
in the case is going to gang up on you.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You got to do it.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Four people prior to her Aboady pled guilty and I'm
not being sentenced, and a part of those fleas they
agreed to cooperate in the prosecution against her. She would
have had four co defendants testifying against her.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
It made for a very difficult trial.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
So she could have gotten I think one hundred and
twenty years in prison. With this deal, she could get
sixty five years in prison. She's gonna have this change
of plea hearing in the coming weeks and then a
sentencing hearing.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
But she's the last.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
One in the death of Matthew Perry to admit that
she played a role in it and that it was
her fault.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't think this is a big surprise that she's
you know, especially knowing the other four people.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, she was holding out till the very end.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Yeah, her trial was set to begin in about a
week week and a half, and she held out.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But she's gonna go guilty now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And she's not. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And if you said her name. I'm sorry if you
said her age, I apologize.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
But forty two I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, so she's got to rye. She's probably gonna die
well unless of course she gets you know, early role.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
At some point. But but yeah, she'll spend a long
time in prison.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know the fact. So
you said there's a total of five people, including including Okay,
all right, all right, very good, Thanks for the very
latest on this, alex A.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I appreciate for your uh, your opening information.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's outstanding to know.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Fourteen and a half inches okay, good bye, all right,
seeing it all right? Bye? Oh my gosh, Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I have no what is kenemine? Dude? You know? Is
it just a numb you drug? Is it just? Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And and if Matthew Perry was such an addict, wouldn't
he know better than to be paying two thousand dollars
of vile for it?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
If it was just it's this whole case just seems odd.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, I think in addition to somebody like Matt Perry,
who's you know, probably had a pretty big bank account.
In addition to all of that, he was probably looking
for a little bit of uh secrecy with his you know,
ability or his purchasing of these things. And I hope
(11:27):
I don't know, Zach I if you could, I'm not
sure what ketamine does. If you could, you could google.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
That, like what about your experiences?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, well, or just tell us about when you used it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I just look it at it.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Actually, there's a whole bunch of different effects to give
you disassociative trance like states. Yeah, it's a pain reliever. Yes,
it can give you like a detachment feeling from what
you're what you're feeling around you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So so just basically takes you somewhere and and this
connects you from real life if you will, right.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
If you take it too much, you can hallucinate those Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, and then he slipped under the water and drown
while he was on it, which I think I'm pretty
sure that's the way that it occurred to my memory.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Servethtub.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
No, he's in a hot tub, I think outside.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, I just meant like he was in the
ocean or something.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right, No, No, he was in a he was
in a hot tub out back. And is I remember
seeing the aerial photos of the area. You didn't see
his body, but you saw the aerial photos of where
the crime scene was or what have you. My guess is,
you know, he had taken enough to where he ends
up slipping under the water, and it was he was
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unable to you know, realize exactly what was happening, and
so as a result he ended up drowning or what
have you. I think with the two thousand dollars per like,
he was looking to try to also have some secrecy
or or something to where it's hidden, you know. And
then also you heard some of the texts that Alex
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referenced that they were talking about how this idiot is
just going to pay this, and so what happened with
him is he starts realizing, Chuck, kind of to your
point that two thousand dollars four doses of it was
way high priced and started looking elsewhere and that's where
she gets involved. But he had a doctor who was
okay with, you know, giving him this or what have you.
(13:27):
But now you got five people who are all going
to prison because they're connected to this. Because and then
in addition, think about this for a second too. If
this is some guy on skid row or this, of
course they're not going to be able to come up
with you know, the thousands of dollars they would need
for Kenemine. But you think about other people that aren't
Matt Perry. I mean, the guy's at uber Megastar, are friends,
you know, and whatever, you would think. Yeah, I don't
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know that does this even make it to the surface
with regard to the even try to start connecting the
dots or get sleuthy here and figure out Hey, hold on,
we got to So if it was somebody who's and
I hate to say it not as famous or as
important or what have you, do they even catch them
right now. So it's kind of good that these five
dirt balls are getting what they've got coming to them
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right now.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I mean I do. For being drug dealers, that's fine.
I just I don't know, as you said, because he's
famous or was famous, Yeah, it draws more attention to it.
I've got no problem with sending drug dealers to jail,
but I just I don't know. There's I hate to
even sound like I'm defending. Yeah, you know, at some
(14:33):
point the victim is also responsible for what they have done.
They they took it, and uh, you know, there's no
statute of limitations on murder do we go back and
look for who's sold Belushi Heroin? Do we go back
and there's there's got to be a cut off as
to what your responsibility is. I still have a problem.
(14:55):
You know, the bartender served you. The bartender didn't know
you were drunk when you got there. You seem to okay,
you had another drink there, and then you went out
gott in a wreck. The bartender gets sued.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, you got some definitely some shady area there. Yeah,
with that, like with the bartender thing, you're right as
far as you're right. Look, people get addicted to this
and they have responsibility kind of to your point as well.
Unfortunately he's not here to do anything with regard to responsibility.
He's gone. But you're but I understand what you're saying.
(15:26):
You're going, Look, is it more important that they ran
these people down because it's Matt Perry as opposed to
you know, John Phillips or whatever. No, the question is
it shouldn't be. But unfortunately that's the society that we existed.
And from what I understand too, this is this the
addicted The addictive nature of this is, you know, off
(15:46):
the charts, but then all of those highly illegal, you know,
really really addictive drugs. They're like that too. I man,
I've been fortunate. I've not been to the point like
this where you like you're saying, you're going, how's this
guy just continuing to pay two grand? But he's so addictious,
He's like, I gotta have it. I mean, you think
(16:07):
about people who are stealing from their parents, the people
they love, and they gotta get more money so they
can get another fix. And you know, it's not that
hard for me to understand why somebody just keep reaching
into their pocket knowing they're being ripped off. They don't care.
They're just like giving.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You're keeping your mouth. They're paying for you to keep
your mouth shut. I think so as much as they
are for the drugs, they're paying for your quiet.
There was a guy that has a broken arm, and
he is saying it is a result of his thing.
Is why his arm is broken? Yeah, his thing, the
thing that you're thinking, You're like, do you mean like
the thing? Yes, the thing. We're just going to refer
to it as the thing because there could be kids
(00:23):
that are within earshot. However, this story is so ridiculous.
Then I said, you know, and I've been trying to
I've been trying to make sense of this, but I
guess there's no making sense. This guy's London resident, and
his thing that he was speaking about is fourteen and
a half inches according to him, and so maybe the
(00:47):
largest thing in the world. There's a cast made of
it currently on display in a museum in Iceland. I
cannot verify that, but I didn't want to look it
up on an iHeart. To be honest, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Heard anything truthful about this story yet.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm This guy says moving too fast can affect his balance,
and in this instance, he was in the shower and
he didn't see the shower gel on the floor on
the tub because this was in the way of his eyeline.
Like he literally could not see the thing that was
(01:25):
on the floor because of the other thing, and so
as a result, it was a slip that resulted in
two broken bones in his arm and shoulder. And so
he goes on to say it was a valuable learning experience,
and he said he bought a no slip bath matt
now because of it. I have never I never in
(01:48):
my life I thought I had heard of everything. I
was like, you're really, first of all, you're telling us
that that really that's all accurate, the measurements, and then
you're going to blame that on breaking your arm. Really
seems pretty weak in the court of law with that
hold up. I just don't know if it would so meeting.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I mean, if you're going to blame one appendage for
breaking the other, I guess that's the right order to
have them.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Inn I'm just Alex Stone. ABC News is joining us,
though I know I saw the stories that You've got
to be kidding me. There's no way, There's no way.
I guess there's a there's a cast of it made
that's on display in a museum, and a museum in
(02:35):
Iceland of all places.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I'm actually I'm actually googling this.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I'm not scaring.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, I know, are going to be cut off from
your Internet.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Would they do that at a to be legitimate?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's legit?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Uh oh yeah, I know you're vetting it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'm not going to give you the the statistics on
the microphone, but I'll tell you offline this.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It looks be real.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Whoa wow, So you're vetting this and uh wow.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
There's a similar cast in Iceland, by the way, that's
also on display.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yes, but Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Hendricks, Oh, he's also gotta. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I haven't read that much detail, but there is a
cast dedicated to Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, i'd heard that about Jimmy Hendrick. You heard that,
Alex about Jimmy Hendrix. He was he was uh blessed
if you will.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Okay, Alex Stone has one.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh even Alex is Oh anyway, this is this is
really weird.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I got to stop reading this because it's.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Zach that's perfect. Yeah, that's weird. That's uh. I kind
of wanted to just think that it wasn't real and
it at that, but Chuck now has taken that away
from Yeah, so now we have to know that it's real.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So how are you doing, Alex showing on how's the weather?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Out, you guys hanging.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Not like that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, you know, I can blame all kinds of
things for a lack of balance at the stage of life,
but anyone.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
No mine usual result in standing up too fast. And yeah,
you're right, that has nothing. That's the only thing. Nothing
else to do with that. Uh. So, how's things in
your world, Alex? I mean, is it We're ninety one
right now, so we're pretty warm.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
One hundred and ten this week? What Yeah, in the
valleys around La It's it's gonna be really really hot. Wow, yeah, Tosi,
So now I can say it's too hot.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
When I was telling you it was perfect over the
last couple of weeks. Right beginning tomorrow, it's going to
go sky high.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Hey, when you see stuff like Hurricane Aaron in the
news and all of that, I mean, are you like,
cause you guys never really deal with that stuff there
For the most part, You've got your own share of
you know, natural disasters that can occur. But when you
see something like that in this time of year, especially
once they start coming fast and furious, you probably are going,
(05:15):
I'm glad I live on the left coast.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, we don't have to deal with those. We did
have a hurricane year ago, two years ago, there was
super rare. They came up the Pacific coast and it
was a tropical storm by the time it got here,
but and it was just very humid and we got
a fair amount of rain. But that was really weird
to have what was and then it degraded. But hurricane
(05:36):
come into the La area, but it came right up
the coast of Mexico and Baja California and then right
into us and it got really ready.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
But typically, no, we don't deal with that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, you know, right now with Aaron, they're saying just
the way it's going to be, just the edges, excuse me,
the edges of it, because it's not going to be
a direct hit based on what they're predicting right about now.
So the eastern seaboard is still going to get you know,
some surge and all of that stuff, but nothing like
if it was. Because this thing is massive. I don't
know how much you've been following it, but we're looking
(06:05):
at it. But it is massive. Yeah, there's somebody even
I think I saw yesterday it was like similar as
the size of the state of Ohio. I was like,
is it really that, you know what, we need to
ask Marshall that, by the way, a little bit later
that see if there's any truth to that, because I.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Think it's not coming on shore though, would be that's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, it would be really, really bad, You have no
question about that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What do they have out there? I mean we get
tornadoes in the midwestquakes from.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
The Southeast, wildfires and earthquakes.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Their share of natural disasters happened.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
They had of hurricane a year ago. I'm like, I
don't think I've ever heard of a hurricane in Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's fair.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It was pretty nuts. Yeah, it rained, it was very humid.
We don't have humidity here. It got very humid and rainy,
and that was about it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah. Is it ketamine or ketamine Ketamine queen, which makes
me think of Billy Ocean Ketamn quid. Yeah, anyway, deciding
to plead guilty. So this is pretty big news, right,
I mean, as we all know everything, Matt Perry is
no longer with us because of.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, jas been saying has her real name and so
called Ketamine Queen, that's what she was known on the
streets as, and the police and federal prosecutors have called
her that, but she is the final of the five
defendants who played a role in Matthew Perry's death to
plead guilty. All the others two doctors, an associate of hers,
and Matthew Perry's assistant, they've all pled guilty already or
(07:34):
planning to. And yeah, the LAPD has so much evidence
against her selling drugs to not only Matthew Perry, but
to a guy who died after taking her drugs in
twenty nineteen as well. So she now is saying that
she will plead guilty admitting to her crimes. Remember, they're
all accused of using Matthew Perry Friend Star is a
big piggy bank to sell them drugs over a period
(07:56):
of time. Then US Attorney Martinez Strata.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Sends took advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to enrich.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Themselves, and the allegation being that the two doctors they
were charging Perry two thousand dollars a vial for ketamine
to cost him only twelve dollars a vial, even texting
each other they wondered how much this moron was going
to pay because he was willing to pay anything to
get it, and eventually that became too expensive for Perry
and they turned to Jazzviine saying Ha to get their
fix through her intermediary, Eric Fleming and Stratasan. Not only
(08:28):
did Sangha sell the fatal dose, but also tried to
hide her tracks and destroyed all the evidence.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Sanham began sending text messages to Fleming, a co defendant,
and telling him to delete all messages.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And she allegedly gave Perry a sample and then followed
up with fifty vials of ketamine and was paid cash
for those fifty vials. He was so addicted that he
just he would pay anything for this stuff, telling our
Diane Sawyer before his death.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Your disease is just outside, just doing one arm push ups.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Just waiting, just waiting for you, waiting to get you along.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
And her attorney, by the way, is Mark Gerago, the
attorney for the Menendez brothers. They have a parole hearing
later this week, so he's got a busy week. But
really this all probably came down to that the other
defendants in the case are played in guilty. Part of
the deal was that they would testify against her. Our
legal anilst Brian Buckmyer saying, it gets to a point
where when you're the last one standing and everybody else
in the case is going to gang up on you.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You got to do it.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Four people prior to her Aboady pled guilty and I'm
not being sentenced, and a part of those fleas they
agreed to cooperate in the prosecution against her. She would
have had four co defendants testifying against her.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
It made for a very difficult trial.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
So she could have gotten I think one hundred and
twenty years in prison. With this deal, she could get
sixty five years in prison. She's gonna have this change
of plea hearing in the coming weeks and then a
sentencing hearing.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
But she's the last.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
One in the death of Matthew Perry to admit that
she played a role in it and that it was
her fault.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't think this is a big surprise that she's
you know, especially knowing the other four people.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, she was holding out till the very end.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Yeah, her trial was set to begin in about a
week week and a half, and she held out.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But she's gonna go guilty now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And she's not. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And if you said her name. I'm sorry if you
said her age, I apologize.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
But forty two I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, so she's got to rye. She's probably gonna die
well unless of course she gets you know, early role.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
At some point. But but yeah, she'll spend a long
time in prison.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know the fact. So
you said there's a total of five people, including including Okay,
all right, all right, very good, Thanks for the very
latest on this, alex A.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I appreciate for your uh, your opening information.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's outstanding to know.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Fourteen and a half inches okay, good bye, all right,
seeing it all right? Bye? Oh my gosh, Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I have no what is kenemine? Dude? You know? Is
it just a numb you drug? Is it just? Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And and if Matthew Perry was such an addict, wouldn't
he know better than to be paying two thousand dollars
of vile for it?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
If it was just it's this whole case just seems odd.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, I think in addition to somebody like Matt Perry,
who's you know, probably had a pretty big bank account.
In addition to all of that, he was probably looking
for a little bit of uh secrecy with his you know,
ability or his purchasing of these things. And I hope
(11:27):
I don't know, Zach I if you could, I'm not
sure what ketamine does. If you could, you could google.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
That, like what about your experiences?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, well, or just tell us about when you used it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I just look it at it.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Actually, there's a whole bunch of different effects to give
you disassociative trance like states. Yeah, it's a pain reliever. Yes,
it can give you like a detachment feeling from what
you're what you're feeling around you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So so just basically takes you somewhere and and this
connects you from real life if you will, right.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
If you take it too much, you can hallucinate those Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, and then he slipped under the water and drown
while he was on it, which I think I'm pretty
sure that's the way that it occurred to my memory.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Servethtub.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
No, he's in a hot tub, I think outside.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, I just meant like he was in the
ocean or something.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right, No, No, he was in a he was
in a hot tub out back. And is I remember
seeing the aerial photos of the area. You didn't see
his body, but you saw the aerial photos of where
the crime scene was or what have you. My guess is,
you know, he had taken enough to where he ends
up slipping under the water, and it was he was
(12:41):
unable to you know, realize exactly what was happening, and
so as a result he ended up drowning or what
have you. I think with the two thousand dollars per like,
he was looking to try to also have some secrecy
or or something to where it's hidden, you know. And
then also you heard some of the texts that Alex
(13:03):
referenced that they were talking about how this idiot is
just going to pay this, and so what happened with
him is he starts realizing, Chuck, kind of to your
point that two thousand dollars four doses of it was
way high priced and started looking elsewhere and that's where
she gets involved. But he had a doctor who was
okay with, you know, giving him this or what have you.
(13:27):
But now you got five people who are all going
to prison because they're connected to this. Because and then
in addition, think about this for a second too. If
this is some guy on skid row or this, of
course they're not going to be able to come up
with you know, the thousands of dollars they would need
for Kenemine. But you think about other people that aren't
Matt Perry. I mean, the guy's at uber Megastar, are friends,
you know, and whatever, you would think. Yeah, I don't
(13:49):
know that does this even make it to the surface
with regard to the even try to start connecting the
dots or get sleuthy here and figure out Hey, hold on,
we got to So if it was somebody who's and
I hate to say it not as famous or as
important or what have you, do they even catch them
right now. So it's kind of good that these five
dirt balls are getting what they've got coming to them
(14:12):
right now.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I mean I do. For being drug dealers, that's fine.
I just I don't know, as you said, because he's
famous or was famous, Yeah, it draws more attention to it.
I've got no problem with sending drug dealers to jail,
but I just I don't know. There's I hate to
even sound like I'm defending. Yeah, you know, at some
(14:33):
point the victim is also responsible for what they have done.
They they took it, and uh, you know, there's no
statute of limitations on murder do we go back and
look for who's sold Belushi Heroin? Do we go back
and there's there's got to be a cut off as
to what your responsibility is. I still have a problem.
(14:55):
You know, the bartender served you. The bartender didn't know
you were drunk when you got there. You seem to okay,
you had another drink there, and then you went out
gott in a wreck. The bartender gets sued.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, you got some definitely some shady area there. Yeah,
with that, like with the bartender thing, you're right as
far as you're right. Look, people get addicted to this
and they have responsibility kind of to your point as well.
Unfortunately he's not here to do anything with regard to responsibility.
He's gone. But you're but I understand what you're saying.
(15:26):
You're going, Look, is it more important that they ran
these people down because it's Matt Perry as opposed to
you know, John Phillips or whatever. No, the question is
it shouldn't be. But unfortunately that's the society that we existed.
And from what I understand too, this is this the
addicted The addictive nature of this is, you know, off
(15:46):
the charts, but then all of those highly illegal, you know,
really really addictive drugs. They're like that too. I man,
I've been fortunate. I've not been to the point like
this where you like you're saying, you're going, how's this
guy just continuing to pay two grand? But he's so addictious,
He's like, I gotta have it. I mean, you think
(16:07):
about people who are stealing from their parents, the people
they love, and they gotta get more money so they
can get another fix. And you know, it's not that
hard for me to understand why somebody just keep reaching
into their pocket knowing they're being ripped off. They don't care.
They're just like giving.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You're keeping your mouth. They're paying for you to keep
your mouth shut. I think so as much as they
are for the drugs, they're paying for your quiet.
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