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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Completely intrigued by these these falling temperatures and no reason.
It's it's just luck of the draw, and it's good.
It's going to be wonderful. And then I'll get on
the radio next week and we'll talk to Alex Stone
and he'll tell us how wonderful it is in Los
Angeles while we're all freezing to death here. That's because
that's the way you are. I know, the vengeful soul
that you have. When it's beautiful there, you got.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
To rub it in.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's a beautiful eighty four degrees right now, so I
can't complain.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Eighty four is kind of perfect?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Is it a comfortable eighty four? Because see, we are
at a very uncomfortable I wish my head would explode
and let the pressure out of my skull.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Eighty nine, No, well it is here because we don't
have humidity, so like eighty four is eighty four. It's
it's beautiful. It's very humidity. Forty percent humidity twenty percent? Yeah,
is that high or low?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, that's low.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's that's pretty high for us, because yeah, we have
a lot of days where we're like five or ten percent.
So yeah, forty percent, that's a humid day for us.
But now it feels like whatever the temperature is, because.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's I believe that's what it is. We don't have humidity.
I'm looking at ours. It's sixty five here. Oh yeah,
we'd be freaking out if it was that humidy.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It feels like it's higher. That's what they call the
due point. I feel like the due points should be
up in the upper seventies right now because a minute
you walk out.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The door, you just you perspire.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And I would think California with the ocean humidity would
be a thing. I'm kind of surprised it's as low
as it is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, we don't deal with humidy. That's why we have
wildfires out here. Not right now, but when they blow up,
because it's always so dry.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Thing about California wildfires is we see them on the
news every night. The Canadian wildfires are invisible.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's true. They don't get a lot of coverage. Yeah
you're a news guy.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean have you sat back and saw are seen
these air quality alerts for our country and wondered why
we're not seeing video on Canadian broadcasting every night of
these intense wildfires.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I don't know, I've never I can't say I've ever
watched Canadian broadcasting. I assumed they were covering them. I
don't know, you've never watched Terrence and Philip?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
No, No, is that a thing? Chock? Are you watching
Canadian TV?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah? I used to believe it or not. Back in
my heyday, we used to have a low power television
station here in Columbus. It was I don't know, six
seven watts. The generator was a mouse, but they would
run what was called much Music, which was like MTV
in Canada in the middle of the night. You know,
as a youngster, I didn't sleep. I was always up
(02:24):
doing stuff the middle of the night. I'm watching all
of these Canadian music videos thinking how much different? And
you know, all it is is a line that says,
this is Canada, this is the United States. And I
always thought, how amazing that their music is so much
different than what we're seeing here, and the fact that
that's a Canadian station, and it's how does that border
(02:46):
on the ground keep us from seeing what I never
got it?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I think about it news in general, where you know,
we can have a story out of Tijuana, which is
essentially San Diego.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And if it's just.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Over the border, you know it might be ten bodies
found buried, beheaded. I mean where it would be a
giant story if it were two miles north. But when
it's over the border, it doesn't make news here at all,
and nobody really cares about it on the US side.
And same thing when there are Canadian stories that it
could be, you know, anything, any big, huge story that
(03:22):
would be wall to wall news here in the US.
If it's in Vancouver, right over the border from Washington State,
that it's it's not a story at all. So it's
always interesting to me how that works out that if
it just goes over the border, all of a sudden
it's international and and Americans are kind of like, nah,
it's not here, different laws that it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Last night, I have a feeling people all over the
globe were probably tuned in, not because of what it was.
Unfortunately we become used to what it was far too often,
but where it was Midtown Manhattan kind of kind of
shook the earth last.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Night, Yeah I did.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And so today police in New York and Vegas are
working to put all of it together in a timeline
of it. So we know that the shooter left his
home in Las Vegas, drove through Colorado on July twenty sixth,
last Saturday, and then Nebraska and Iowa, and then entered
New York City on Monday afternoon and then immediately carried
this out. There is a suicide note left behind where
(04:17):
it appears he believed he had CTE and no indicasion
he did, but he believed he had it or believed
he had it from playing high school football in Santa
Clarita and in Granada Hills in southern California, and he
grew up there and then moved to Vegas. And that
he was apparently targeting the NFL headquarters in Manhattan out
of anger about what he thought was CTE. So the
(04:41):
elevator didn't take him to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He went in.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He got in the wrong elevator and it took him
to the thirty third floor and then he shot more there.
He first opened fire in the lobby, then he shot
more on the thirty third floor and continued to carry
this out. This man was inside.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
From the bill and used to CB were running, That's
what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
People inside the building were saying they heard someone they
thought someone fell down the stairs, and then they realized
I wasn't just stared with someone shooting a guy. Among
those killed was a New York City police officer, along
with a woman, Wesley Lapatner, an employee at Blackstone, an
investment firm, who was a wife and a mom of two.
He had an ar style rifle and the NYPD is
(05:20):
traveling to Vegas now to begin tracing that and to
work more on this carry out sir to warrants, probably
later on tonight. But he had this note blaming CTE
and a documented mental health background in Las Vegas, and
the NYPD sang.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
According to our law enforcement partners in Las Vegas, mister
Timora has a documented mental health history.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
The mayor says it was eerie watching surveillance video of
a woman getting out of the elevator that he got
into and he allowed her to walk out after shooting
victims and then killing more on the thirty third floor,
but he allowed her to live for whatever reason, and
she was able to get out like it was any
normal day, and he got in and then went up
to the thirty third floor, but Jessica Chen was trapped
in the building while the shooter was making his way
(06:00):
around my parents that I love them.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I've tested people good in my life, that I love them.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We were honestly, really really scared.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And Chuck, the shooter we know, was a casino employee
in Las Vegas. He had two mental health crisis incidents
with the LVMPD, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. They
were originally described as holds. Doesn't look like he was
actually hospitalized, which may have played a role in how
he was able to get his guns and concealed carry permit.
(06:30):
But today there are bullet holes in the NFL crest
in the lobby of the building, and a lot they've
got to figure out. There is no indication he had
been diagnosed with CT, but he apparently believed he had it.
In his note, he wrote, study my brain. I'm sorry,
and the NYPD is traveling to Las Vegas today to
try to piece it all together.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The evidence of the system breakdown here is just phenomenal.
I mean, you know, we've got a documented mental health crisis.
A couple of times. This guy managed to get a
concealed carry permit. He was working, as I understand, an
armed surveillance for one of the casinos out there he
was able to buy a semi automatic rifle, walk through
the street of New York calmly, and nobody did anything
(07:13):
with him carrying that rifle. And I believe he probably
had an imaginary ailment, or if he had, it blamed
an entity that never had anything to do with his life.
This is just one series of crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, one after another.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And the thinking is, and we don't know that that
nobody really noticed that gun as he was walking and
he wasn't hiding it at all. It was at his side.
You can see it in photos walking through an open courtyard.
One the open courtyard, there was nobody in there, but
when he was closer to the sidewalk area that it's
a busy city environment where you know, people have their
AirPods in and they're looking at their phones, and it
(07:47):
seems like nobody noticed him. He double parked his car
immediately got out. It was just briefly that he would
have been by the sidewalk of people walking by and
nobody saw it. Now, it probably wouldn't have made any
difference in the amount of time for police to get there.
That it would have been difficult for them to enter
Dictum in that amount of time, but still it seems
nobody noticed he was carrying this very open, very clearly
(08:11):
to see large gun that he walked, you know, it
kept it by his side, and in that environment in Manhattan,
nobody noticed it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And very sadly, that special duty officer that was shot
in the back apparently leaves behind a wife, twin boys,
and she's eight months pregnant. This this can't get much worse.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, yeah, And there was an NFL employee who was
shot as well. He's critically injured, but his wife is pregnant.
Then again, the Wesley Lapatner, a wife and mom of two.
There was a security guard who was killed. I mean,
you know, everybody's got a story and it's it's very
very sent.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Alex Stone, ABC News. I'm sure we will talk again
in the very very near future. In the meantime, I
tell you, you know, don't break a sweat, but it's California.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You can't sweat there anyth We won't
Completely intrigued by these these falling temperatures and no reason.
It's it's just luck of the draw, and it's good.
It's going to be wonderful. And then I'll get on
the radio next week and we'll talk to Alex Stone
and he'll tell us how wonderful it is in Los
Angeles while we're all freezing to death here. That's because
that's the way you are. I know, the vengeful soul
that you have. When it's beautiful there, you got.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
To rub it in.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's a beautiful eighty four degrees right now, so I
can't complain.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Eighty four is kind of perfect?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Is it a comfortable eighty four? Because see, we are
at a very uncomfortable I wish my head would explode
and let the pressure out of my skull.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Eighty nine, No, well it is here because we don't
have humidity, so like eighty four is eighty four. It's
it's beautiful. It's very humidity. Forty percent humidity twenty percent? Yeah,
is that high or low?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, that's low.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's that's pretty high for us, because yeah, we have
a lot of days where we're like five or ten percent.
So yeah, forty percent, that's a humid day for us.
But now it feels like whatever the temperature is, because.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's I believe that's what it is. We don't have humidity.
I'm looking at ours. It's sixty five here. Oh yeah,
we'd be freaking out if it was that humidy.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It feels like it's higher. That's what they call the
due point. I feel like the due points should be
up in the upper seventies right now because a minute
you walk out.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The door, you just you perspire.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And I would think California with the ocean humidity would
be a thing. I'm kind of surprised it's as low
as it is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, we don't deal with humidy. That's why we have
wildfires out here. Not right now, but when they blow up,
because it's always so dry.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Thing about California wildfires is we see them on the
news every night. The Canadian wildfires are invisible.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's true. They don't get a lot of coverage. Yeah
you're a news guy.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean have you sat back and saw are seen
these air quality alerts for our country and wondered why
we're not seeing video on Canadian broadcasting every night of
these intense wildfires.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I don't know, I've never I can't say I've ever
watched Canadian broadcasting. I assumed they were covering them. I
don't know, you've never watched Terrence and Philip?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
No, No, is that a thing? Chock? Are you watching
Canadian TV?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah? I used to believe it or not. Back in
my heyday, we used to have a low power television
station here in Columbus. It was I don't know, six
seven watts. The generator was a mouse, but they would
run what was called much Music, which was like MTV
in Canada in the middle of the night. You know,
as a youngster, I didn't sleep. I was always up
(02:24):
doing stuff the middle of the night. I'm watching all
of these Canadian music videos thinking how much different? And
you know, all it is is a line that says,
this is Canada, this is the United States. And I
always thought, how amazing that their music is so much
different than what we're seeing here, and the fact that
that's a Canadian station, and it's how does that border
(02:46):
on the ground keep us from seeing what I never
got it?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I think about it news in general, where you know,
we can have a story out of Tijuana, which is
essentially San Diego.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And if it's just.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Over the border, you know it might be ten bodies
found buried, beheaded. I mean where it would be a
giant story if it were two miles north. But when
it's over the border, it doesn't make news here at all,
and nobody really cares about it on the US side.
And same thing when there are Canadian stories that it
could be, you know, anything, any big, huge story that
(03:22):
would be wall to wall news here in the US.
If it's in Vancouver, right over the border from Washington State,
that it's it's not a story at all. So it's
always interesting to me how that works out that if
it just goes over the border, all of a sudden
it's international and and Americans are kind of like, nah,
it's not here, different laws that it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Last night, I have a feeling people all over the
globe were probably tuned in, not because of what it was.
Unfortunately we become used to what it was far too often,
but where it was Midtown Manhattan kind of kind of
shook the earth last.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Night, Yeah I did.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And so today police in New York and Vegas are
working to put all of it together in a timeline
of it. So we know that the shooter left his
home in Las Vegas, drove through Colorado on July twenty sixth,
last Saturday, and then Nebraska and Iowa, and then entered
New York City on Monday afternoon and then immediately carried
this out. There is a suicide note left behind where
(04:17):
it appears he believed he had CTE and no indicasion
he did, but he believed he had it or believed
he had it from playing high school football in Santa
Clarita and in Granada Hills in southern California, and he
grew up there and then moved to Vegas. And that
he was apparently targeting the NFL headquarters in Manhattan out
of anger about what he thought was CTE. So the
(04:41):
elevator didn't take him to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He went in.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He got in the wrong elevator and it took him
to the thirty third floor and then he shot more there.
He first opened fire in the lobby, then he shot
more on the thirty third floor and continued to carry
this out. This man was inside.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
From the bill and used to CB were running, That's
what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
People inside the building were saying they heard someone they
thought someone fell down the stairs, and then they realized
I wasn't just stared with someone shooting a guy. Among
those killed was a New York City police officer, along
with a woman, Wesley Lapatner, an employee at Blackstone, an
investment firm, who was a wife and a mom of two.
He had an ar style rifle and the NYPD is
(05:20):
traveling to Vegas now to begin tracing that and to
work more on this carry out sir to warrants, probably
later on tonight. But he had this note blaming CTE
and a documented mental health background in Las Vegas, and
the NYPD sang.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
According to our law enforcement partners in Las Vegas, mister
Timora has a documented mental health history.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
The mayor says it was eerie watching surveillance video of
a woman getting out of the elevator that he got
into and he allowed her to walk out after shooting
victims and then killing more on the thirty third floor,
but he allowed her to live for whatever reason, and
she was able to get out like it was any
normal day, and he got in and then went up
to the thirty third floor, but Jessica Chen was trapped
in the building while the shooter was making his way
(06:00):
around my parents that I love them.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I've tested people good in my life, that I love them.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We were honestly, really really scared.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And Chuck, the shooter we know, was a casino employee
in Las Vegas. He had two mental health crisis incidents
with the LVMPD, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. They
were originally described as holds. Doesn't look like he was
actually hospitalized, which may have played a role in how
he was able to get his guns and concealed carry permit.
(06:30):
But today there are bullet holes in the NFL crest
in the lobby of the building, and a lot they've
got to figure out. There is no indication he had
been diagnosed with CT, but he apparently believed he had it.
In his note, he wrote, study my brain. I'm sorry,
and the NYPD is traveling to Las Vegas today to
try to piece it all together.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The evidence of the system breakdown here is just phenomenal.
I mean, you know, we've got a documented mental health crisis.
A couple of times. This guy managed to get a
concealed carry permit. He was working, as I understand, an
armed surveillance for one of the casinos out there he
was able to buy a semi automatic rifle, walk through
the street of New York calmly, and nobody did anything
(07:13):
with him carrying that rifle. And I believe he probably
had an imaginary ailment, or if he had, it blamed
an entity that never had anything to do with his life.
This is just one series of crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, one after another.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And the thinking is, and we don't know that that
nobody really noticed that gun as he was walking and
he wasn't hiding it at all. It was at his side.
You can see it in photos walking through an open courtyard.
One the open courtyard, there was nobody in there, but
when he was closer to the sidewalk area that it's
a busy city environment where you know, people have their
AirPods in and they're looking at their phones, and it
(07:47):
seems like nobody noticed him. He double parked his car
immediately got out. It was just briefly that he would
have been by the sidewalk of people walking by and
nobody saw it. Now, it probably wouldn't have made any
difference in the amount of time for police to get there.
That it would have been difficult for them to enter
Dictum in that amount of time, but still it seems
nobody noticed he was carrying this very open, very clearly
(08:11):
to see large gun that he walked, you know, it
kept it by his side, and in that environment in Manhattan,
nobody noticed it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And very sadly, that special duty officer that was shot
in the back apparently leaves behind a wife, twin boys,
and she's eight months pregnant. This this can't get much worse.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, yeah, And there was an NFL employee who was
shot as well. He's critically injured, but his wife is pregnant.
Then again, the Wesley Lapatner, a wife and mom of two.
There was a security guard who was killed. I mean,
you know, everybody's got a story and it's it's very
very sent.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Alex Stone, ABC News. I'm sure we will talk again
in the very very near future. In the meantime, I
tell you, you know, don't break a sweat, but it's California.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You can't sweat there anyth We won't
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