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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alex Stone. ABC News is joining us right now. And Alex,
I'm gonna guess that where you're at it is not
forty two.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Forty two That sounds horrendous. Yeah, no, what are we at?
Seventy one?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
So, but I've got a flee son, and we're ready
for the Chili Chili Day.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It is tomorrow. We're looking at wind chills. But I
don't know if you heard Marshall there, we're looking at
wind chills in the you know, could be getting below
zero and like five above.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, how do you live with that?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
You're wearing shorts right now, aren't you?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Maybe not even that?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh my gosh, Oh.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
This is why we need to stream live on the
end of.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Oh Man, sit around our ABC pool right now, right.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, we know better than that.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They're too cheap of a company to be putting money
for that.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
We know.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
In the shape of the ABC meatball as we call it,
the black logo and the ABC in the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's I miss that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
They don't use that much anymore. I missed.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's a regular logo.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I mean you see it on the at the bottom,
in the bottom right hand corner on every show.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
You see again, we were talking about the seventies earlier,
back when the nineteen seventy seven I think it was
they used Orlean song still the one, and that black
ABC logo was all over everything. As we headed into
the fall TV season, it was amazing. ABC was a powerhouse.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I was gonna put my two cents in for Alex
if you could let the higher ups there know that.
Maybe later at night they start re running like Love
Boat episodes. That's what I'm really the original No, No,
the original ones, you know with Gavin mcclos Captain Steubing
(01:42):
and you know the guy.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know if this suggestion is gonna go anywhere
with them, but I'll sure put it in for you.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Funny about Gavin mcclik's Captain Sting. They had every possible
guest on the Love Boat except Mary Tyler Moore, which
I always thought was funny.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Why wouldn't Murray have Mary on the boat?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That is a good question, a little Golden Girls while
they're aut in Tode. Uh No, my wife would though,
But don't please. Why did you say that out loud?
Because if she's listening, she's gonna start texting me.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Man, she's sitting Alex. Note right, now thanking your friend.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Hey, uh so I saw the Stowway story and I
was like, if you've flown, you say to yourself, how
in the hell did this happen? Because I'm telling you, man,
I get just short of harassment and I never get,
you know, dinner or anything out of it. Sometimes I'm
accosted so badly. I don't understand how the Stowway happened.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, there are quite a few things that don't make
sense and that they've got to figure out how this
lady seemed to get around multiple different things. There were
multiple failures. Svetlana Dolly is her name, and she is
a Russian citizen. She has legal residency in the US.
She went to JFK Airport in New York. Somehow got
through security using the crew member lane where they show
(02:55):
their credentials and they get into the regular lane. So
she did go through security. There was some original thought
that maybe she had gone completely around security. She got
into that crew member lane and then that feeds into
the regular lane. She went through security, but she got
beyond the podium where they show their credentials then go in,
and then got beyond the gate agent who was boarding
(03:17):
the delta flight to Paris and was able to go
around and get right on the plane and then on board,
she apparently didn't sit down very much.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Rob Jackson was on board, he says, suring.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
A flight, she was seen moving from one laboratory to another,
never actually going to a passenger seat. So what's unclear
is if she took an open seat on takeoff or
if she was hiding in a bathroom, which then that
would be another failure. The flight attendants are supposed to
check all the bathrooms before you take off, and then
they lock them so it says occupied on them so
nobody can go in, and that they know that they
(03:49):
are all empty.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We don't know, though.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
She may have found an open seat and sat down
during that a few minutes and then got up and
started doing the moving around the bathrooms, or she was
hiding in one of them. But eventually fly attendance they
figured out something was right with her, they asked for
a boarding pass. This guy on board says she forever
acted like she was looking for it in her bags.
She took ten minutes to just tumbler her bags to
(04:11):
find the boarding pass, which she did not have at all.
She didn't have one. She had an old one that
wasn't from that flight that they said that's not for this.
They landed in France. France did not accept her. She's
been in a holding area to be routed back to
the US. When they put her on a Delta flight
to fly back that didn't go well. She began yelling.
It was recorded. She claims that she wants asylum away
(04:37):
from the United States, that she doesn't want to go
back to the US and Natalia was on board that
flight trying to get her back to the US. She
got belligerent, so then Moore, stewardess, came in to try
to restrain her, and that's when everything started to escalate.
So she was restrained and then got off and she's
back in France again. But the big question now is
how she got beyond that TSA podium. A JFK got
(04:59):
beyond the gate agent without a boarding pass. Maybe was
able to hide out in the bathrooms. The TSA and
Delta air lines they say they're investigating. They don't know
if she's going to be charged, what it's going to be,
but a lot of that remains unknown. Of maybe you
can get around one of them, but how do you
just sneak beyond both of them, and nobody see that
she's going around.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, I also think too, I saw, excuse me,
the footage that I saw, it looked like she was
sitting in a seat, which clearly meant maybe the flight
was not all the way full. So I said that
to say, going from bathroom to bathroom I think made
her more conspicuous than had she just stayed in a seat,
even if it wasn't her seat, and you know, especially
(05:41):
if it was before takeoff and all of that. I felt,
I feel like going back and forth because I'm very
I don't know about you, but when I'm on a flight,
I'm watching, like if people start acting weird or doing
weird things, and clearly that's weird. Going back and forth,
you know, once or twice you go okay, okay. If
she continues to do that, I think she becomes you know,
(06:04):
more of a conspicuous if you will.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely, we were told originally the plate was full,
and that maybe like deadheading crew may have moved when
they sat her down to start questioning her, knowing something
wasn't right. Yeah, and so they put her in their
seat and then figured everything out but it may not
have been. You know, when you get out a flight,
the crew always says it's full, and then you're like, well,
I have a seat next to me. How was this?
(06:27):
They always say one hundred percent full, so you know,
you may have to check your bag.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So it may not have been one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And so maybe there was a seat here or there
that maybe she sat in when they took off, and
that's why she wasn't in one of the bathrooms. That
part's not clear, but they do know that getting around tsa,
getting around the boarding agent and then eluding the flight
attendants for a while until they sat her down. All
of that they got to figure out how she was
able to do She doesn't look, you know, like a
(06:54):
secret agent who was really all that stealthy. Just looks,
you know, more like she may have some mental things
going on. But how she was able to do it,
They've got to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, uh, pretty crazy. Ilex Stone, ABC News out of
Los Angeles, Alex, enjoy your seventies.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You got it. Maybe I'll put on some shorts at
some point.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Cat's better than pencilss.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I guess see you many.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Thanks you fly a lot. I don't fly a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I just say, do you do you avoid using the
bathroom when you're on a jet.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, I'm not one of those people that shy about that.
If I gotta go, I'll go. And that's either one
one or to I don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I'd be terrified that right in the middle of things
that we'd hit turbulence.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well that is that while you're standing there, say you
are you know, first of all, you being a large individual,
you're going to You're.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Going to go in there and go, well, I'm gonna
get out of here quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
At the walls on either side. I mean, I'm sure
it's small.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, yeah, man, And but I do think of that
when I'm in there. I'll be like, man, if we
if this plane does a hard bank one way or another,
I am coming out of here, bloody.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
There is no other way around it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You'd just be tossed.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Around in there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
If I'm ever stowing away on an aircraft, the bathroom
is the last place you will have to worry about
me hiding.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm not gonna do it. It's a fact, man.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I don't understand how she made it through all of
the security and then the gate agents and then getting up.
I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
It's an inside job. It has to be baggage handler
or sister or something like that. Somebody got her on
that plane to hide in the bathroom until it's a
golf Well.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
She gets to France and then.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We do not want you to go back.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Go back,
Alex Stone. ABC News is joining us right now. And Alex,
I'm gonna guess that where you're at it is not
forty two.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Forty two That sounds horrendous. Yeah, no, what are we at?
Seventy one?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
So, but I've got a flee son, and we're ready
for the Chili Chili Day.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It is tomorrow. We're looking at wind chills. But I
don't know if you heard Marshall there, we're looking at
wind chills in the you know, could be getting below
zero and like five above.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, how do you live with that?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
You're wearing shorts right now, aren't you?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Maybe not even that?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh my gosh, Oh.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
This is why we need to stream live on the
end of.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Oh Man, sit around our ABC pool right now, right.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, we know better than that.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They're too cheap of a company to be putting money
for that.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
We know.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
In the shape of the ABC meatball as we call it,
the black logo and the ABC in the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's I miss that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
They don't use that much anymore. I missed.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's a regular logo.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I mean you see it on the at the bottom,
in the bottom right hand corner on every show.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
You see again, we were talking about the seventies earlier,
back when the nineteen seventy seven I think it was
they used Orlean song still the one, and that black
ABC logo was all over everything. As we headed into
the fall TV season, it was amazing. ABC was a powerhouse.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I was gonna put my two cents in for Alex
if you could let the higher ups there know that.
Maybe later at night they start re running like Love
Boat episodes. That's what I'm really the original No, No,
the original ones, you know with Gavin mcclos Captain Steubing
(01:42):
and you know the guy.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know if this suggestion is gonna go anywhere
with them, but I'll sure put it in for you.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Funny about Gavin mcclik's Captain Sting. They had every possible
guest on the Love Boat except Mary Tyler Moore, which
I always thought was funny.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Why wouldn't Murray have Mary on the boat?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That is a good question, a little Golden Girls while
they're aut in Tode. Uh No, my wife would though,
But don't please. Why did you say that out loud?
Because if she's listening, she's gonna start texting me.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Man, she's sitting Alex. Note right, now thanking your friend.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Hey, uh so I saw the Stowway story and I
was like, if you've flown, you say to yourself, how
in the hell did this happen? Because I'm telling you, man,
I get just short of harassment and I never get,
you know, dinner or anything out of it. Sometimes I'm
accosted so badly. I don't understand how the Stowway happened.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, there are quite a few things that don't make
sense and that they've got to figure out how this
lady seemed to get around multiple different things. There were
multiple failures. Svetlana Dolly is her name, and she is
a Russian citizen. She has legal residency in the US.
She went to JFK Airport in New York. Somehow got
through security using the crew member lane where they show
(02:55):
their credentials and they get into the regular lane. So
she did go through security. There was some original thought
that maybe she had gone completely around security. She got
into that crew member lane and then that feeds into
the regular lane. She went through security, but she got
beyond the podium where they show their credentials then go in,
and then got beyond the gate agent who was boarding
(03:17):
the delta flight to Paris and was able to go
around and get right on the plane and then on board,
she apparently didn't sit down very much.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Rob Jackson was on board, he says, suring.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
A flight, she was seen moving from one laboratory to another,
never actually going to a passenger seat. So what's unclear
is if she took an open seat on takeoff or
if she was hiding in a bathroom, which then that
would be another failure. The flight attendants are supposed to
check all the bathrooms before you take off, and then
they lock them so it says occupied on them so
nobody can go in, and that they know that they
(03:49):
are all empty.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We don't know, though.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
She may have found an open seat and sat down
during that a few minutes and then got up and
started doing the moving around the bathrooms, or she was
hiding in one of them. But eventually fly attendance they
figured out something was right with her, they asked for
a boarding pass. This guy on board says she forever
acted like she was looking for it in her bags.
She took ten minutes to just tumbler her bags to
(04:11):
find the boarding pass, which she did not have at all.
She didn't have one. She had an old one that
wasn't from that flight that they said that's not for this.
They landed in France. France did not accept her. She's
been in a holding area to be routed back to
the US. When they put her on a Delta flight
to fly back that didn't go well. She began yelling.
It was recorded. She claims that she wants asylum away
(04:37):
from the United States, that she doesn't want to go
back to the US and Natalia was on board that
flight trying to get her back to the US. She
got belligerent, so then Moore, stewardess, came in to try
to restrain her, and that's when everything started to escalate.
So she was restrained and then got off and she's
back in France again. But the big question now is
how she got beyond that TSA podium. A JFK got
(04:59):
beyond the gate agent without a boarding pass. Maybe was
able to hide out in the bathrooms. The TSA and
Delta air lines they say they're investigating. They don't know
if she's going to be charged, what it's going to be,
but a lot of that remains unknown. Of maybe you
can get around one of them, but how do you
just sneak beyond both of them, and nobody see that
she's going around.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, I also think too, I saw, excuse me,
the footage that I saw, it looked like she was
sitting in a seat, which clearly meant maybe the flight
was not all the way full. So I said that
to say, going from bathroom to bathroom I think made
her more conspicuous than had she just stayed in a seat,
even if it wasn't her seat, and you know, especially
(05:41):
if it was before takeoff and all of that. I felt,
I feel like going back and forth because I'm very
I don't know about you, but when I'm on a flight,
I'm watching, like if people start acting weird or doing
weird things, and clearly that's weird. Going back and forth,
you know, once or twice you go okay, okay. If
she continues to do that, I think she becomes you know,
(06:04):
more of a conspicuous if you will.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely, we were told originally the plate was full,
and that maybe like deadheading crew may have moved when
they sat her down to start questioning her, knowing something
wasn't right. Yeah, and so they put her in their
seat and then figured everything out but it may not
have been. You know, when you get out a flight,
the crew always says it's full, and then you're like, well,
I have a seat next to me. How was this?
(06:27):
They always say one hundred percent full, so you know,
you may have to check your bag.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So it may not have been one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And so maybe there was a seat here or there
that maybe she sat in when they took off, and
that's why she wasn't in one of the bathrooms. That
part's not clear, but they do know that getting around tsa,
getting around the boarding agent and then eluding the flight
attendants for a while until they sat her down. All
of that they got to figure out how she was
able to do She doesn't look, you know, like a
(06:54):
secret agent who was really all that stealthy. Just looks,
you know, more like she may have some mental things
going on. But how she was able to do it,
They've got to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, uh, pretty crazy. Ilex Stone, ABC News out of
Los Angeles, Alex, enjoy your seventies.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You got it. Maybe I'll put on some shorts at
some point.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Cat's better than pencilss.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I guess see you many.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Thanks you fly a lot. I don't fly a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I just say, do you do you avoid using the
bathroom when you're on a jet.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, I'm not one of those people that shy about that.
If I gotta go, I'll go. And that's either one
one or to I don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I'd be terrified that right in the middle of things
that we'd hit turbulence.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well that is that while you're standing there, say you
are you know, first of all, you being a large individual,
you're going to You're.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Going to go in there and go, well, I'm gonna
get out of here quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
At the walls on either side. I mean, I'm sure
it's small.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, yeah, man, And but I do think of that
when I'm in there. I'll be like, man, if we
if this plane does a hard bank one way or another,
I am coming out of here, bloody.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
There is no other way around it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You'd just be tossed.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Around in there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
If I'm ever stowing away on an aircraft, the bathroom
is the last place you will have to worry about
me hiding.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm not gonna do it. It's a fact, man.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I don't understand how she made it through all of
the security and then the gate agents and then getting up.
I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
It's an inside job. It has to be baggage handler
or sister or something like that. Somebody got her on
that plane to hide in the bathroom until it's a
golf Well.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
She gets to France and then.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
We do not want you to go back.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Go back,
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