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August 8, 2024 13 mins
Terror plot against a Taylor Swift concert
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got I got somebody, a friend of mine who
actually got a guy.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I got a guy. You got a guy, got a guy.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
He's uh, he went to he was in Newark and
he went into a dispensary. And I'll tell you what
happened with him coming up here in just a second.
So you know the fact that, of course recreational weed
you can actually it's been legal here in Ohio, but
you can finally start buying it at stores. That just
happened this week. So interesting that he went in there

(00:31):
earlier today. And so I I have some some news that.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, I've taught to a couple people last night who
went and got their got their weed.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Brad Garrett, ABC News Crime and Terrorism
analyst who's joining us. Now that's the big news here
in Ohio. Brad, like, that's what That's one of those
things like weed, recreational weed is finally legal to buy here.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
So yeah, it's high up there on the list of
things to talk about, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It is a it's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
We're well, will we the twenty fourth or sixth state
whatever something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
They thought we were going to be the fiftieth.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we actually were predicting Brad Ohio would be last
to do this and it was not. So anyway, on
to what you're reporting on and talking about, boy, this
is you know, like her hate Taylor Swift because obviously
there are a lot of people that make fun of her,
there are a lot of people that really love her.
All of that like or hate her something like this,

(01:33):
being thwarted is a great thing. I don't care how
you stack it. But this happened in Austria. But tell
us the very latest with this and what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
So the Austrian police have stated that they've arrested at
least three people, a nineteen year old, seventeen year old,
and I don't think they actually arrested the fifteen year old,
but they interviewed him for her and basically they said
that the ninth year old, who's they described as God

(02:03):
of the ring Lander, had explosives in his house and
he told the investigators that the plan was to set
up explosives outside the venue where Taylor Swift was going
to play for in other words, as people go into
the stadium, arena, whatever it might be. And you know,

(02:23):
if you may or may not know this, but apparently
thousands of people going to tell Taylor Swift concerts that
don't have tickets and they just hang out outside, so
they're you know, potentially could be thousands of people sort
of elbow to elbow, and the idea was to set
up a number of explosives obviously that would kill a
number of people, presumably and then start stabbing people. And

(02:46):
the Austrian authorities haven't described or explained how they got
on to this guy, but the impression is they already
knew about him. Maybe not in this context, but maybe
they knew about him in reference to forty nine Isis
because he claims that, you know, he is a person
who is doing this through the eyes of Isis. So

(03:08):
that's where the case stands. Obviously, nobody got hurt, which
is a tremendously good thing. The bad news if you
had gone there to the concert, they canceled all three concerts.
So that's sort of the summation of the case as
we know it right now.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Right good thing they got this figured out. Clearly that
could have been just mass chaos and it's you know,
a bunch of people in that situation, you know, Brad.
This also makes me think, you know, we're coming into
heavy football season. And by heavy, I don't know why
I said heavy, but football season we've already been in baseball.
There are so many different instances where around the United States.

(03:48):
There are you know, mass amounts of people gathering concerts,
some are concerts and so on. Unfortunately, we know what
happened at Mandalay Bay a few years back, and so on.
But these kinds of things, when you see something like this,
something that makes the news to this level, you think
how many other fifty other things that were thwarted that

(04:10):
maybe never are going to be talked about. And I
think it's a constant thing that clearly they're on the
lookout for these kinds of things, and they're constantly thwarting
these things, if you will, especially here in the States.
But of course this was in Austria. But I'm just
happy to hear that they were able to get this
guy and disrupt this whole thing, because yeah, that would

(04:31):
have been incredibly tragic, no question, no.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Doubt about it. So anyway, that's you know, the biggest
problem obviously is that the volume of threats now are
so high that it's just keeps so long, enforcement jumping
from one to the other and the vast majority of
them are just talk. Yeah, but obviously there's going to
be a handful of them that they they've got some
substance to them, and clearly this one did.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
And you know what the thing about these two is that, Brad,
when people, you know, when they get, they've got to
follow on. They got to follow up on every single
thing they get because you don't know what's real and
what's not. Kind of to your point, but it's an
enormous amount of manpower it takes to investigate and track

(05:16):
these down. But boy, you know, the ninety nine that
are fakes or that they change their minds or whatever
out of one hundred, that one hundredths one is this
one where they actually thwarted this and this was gonna
go down.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
So it's a pretty eerie, no question, exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
All Right, Very good, Brad Garrett, ABC News Crime and
Terrorism and Unless out of Washington.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Brad, thank you very much, appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
So I listen, you know how I feel about Taylor Swift.
That transcends this story because I knew you were going
to do this, But it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We're talking about hundreds of thousands of people. This is
this is scary.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
It makes me pause thinking about Oh my gosh, you know,
I was just out of concert seeing Stone tumble pilots.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Now this is Austria.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
No, I know there is but still yeah, yeah, yeah,
eighty two thousand people at Metallica in Detroit at for Field. Oh,
I know, man, And I just think if you know what,
there's no way security can truly truly vet everyone down.
You know, it's not like you're getting everyone's getting padded

(06:27):
down you go through the metal detector. Yeah, but I
think about these things more and more, like there's a
lot of people here. This would be a really big
target for some sicko.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, I'll tell you too, this day and age, you
got a lot of people over time that have contemplated
doing something like this, and more often than not, clearly
they think better of it. But it feels like people
are getting more and more emboldened here.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Do you remember when By the way, I'm I don't
understand radical Islamic terrorism. Just can we just call it
what it is that you know, radical Islamists have taken
I'm not talking your day to day practicing Muslim. This
is not I'm talking about extremist. You're extremists, radical Islamist.

(07:19):
They've invaded Europe. Okay, so do you remember this is
a great example. I mean, that's this stuck with me
whenever this happened, like I don't know, eight nine, ten
years ago. Do you remember the Eagles of Death Metal
playing that club in Paris and those terrorists went in

(07:41):
there and killed like one hundred and forty people.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
The pictures coming out of that I can't unsee of
all the bodies and the blood, and I just I
never want to look at that picture again.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But that's the kind of stuff you go, what do
you do? You and I are Second Amendment guys.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
You and you and I. You and I carry heat. Okay,
I'm not carrying heat into a concert. I'm not thinking
about defensive like where's the exits? Okay, here's the where's
thet see?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
You're a soft target there, they know because people are
going in Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Man, that's exactly the same thing with the school.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know, that's nothing, you can do nothing, It's just
God's calling you home.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, it's that's.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
The kind of stuff that, like, you know, you can
work yourself into an existential panic.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Attack over like, oh my, you really can.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
But then again, I could die on my way home
on two seventy getting hit by a semi sure, But
I just this kind of stuff freaks me out. Like
what they were trying to do to that concert goers
there at her show that the.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Guy they the guy they nabbed the main guy. Uh,
there's a picture of him. It looks like kind of
a stocky big he's holding the knives up and his
face was blurred out. But uh, the one that I
saw on one of the news sites, and he was
willing to die. I mean, it's he talks about it.
And when when someone is willing to die in a

(09:14):
situation like that, yeah, you it's you.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Uh, if you.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Made it through it was it was divine intervention. Because
when someone's ready, when they're okay, they have they're okay
with that, it is really tough to stop somebody like that.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean, yeah, I just don't know, like.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I just forever since I think a lot of you know,
things that have happened in the last ten fifteen years.
You know, I've been to the ND five hundred three times.
Every time I go, I'm like, there's three hundred thousand
people here. This is a big target, and you know
it just it's weird.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And then so I just don't like hearing about these
stories because now I'm going to be freaked out the
next time I'm in a big crowd, right, right. So
I was just telling I had somebody give me a
full report on Sunnyside in Newark. That's where they were,
and they start breakfast there too. No, that's Scramblers Sunny

(10:11):
Street Cafe or Sunny Street. Yeah, well both of those,
but you're no closer to Sunnyside Sunny Street.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes, this is Sunnyside. I've heard of Sunnyside Dispensary.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
So I was just like he was telling me, you know,
basically that he goes. I said, was it a line
out the door? So on and so forth, and he's like,
it was what did you say about ten people in
front of him? And when he went in, they were
like they asked for ID if he was medical or wreck,

(10:45):
waited for a person to help.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
It was a tablet.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
They bring a tablet out so it's not on display everywhere,
like if you've been at a dispensary, depending on which
state you're in, Nevada.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
What's that planet thirteen? Yep, in Las Vegas. I bet
you can look and touch everything.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, all of this stuff is out on display, and
that place is enormous and you can touch it once.
If you tell the bud tender this, this, this, this,
and this, they go and collect all of it. They
have like a basket and they go and collect all
of it and come back, and you can certainly smell it.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
And my buddy who I went to the Metallica show
was when we went to the dispensary, She's like, what
are you looking for? He's like, okay, well I need
pain relief for my lower back.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
It goes and I have I have really bad insomnia.
Can I get one for pain relief, one for insomnia,
and then one for anxiety. She's like, I can know
exactly the three strings you need.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yep. Like dude, that's it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
A lot of people are going in trying to do that.
Not just hey I'm just gonna get really high. I
mean there are a lot of people that use it to,
you know, in lieu of any kind of narcotics, any
kind of you know, drugs.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I know people that stop using Viking in and turn
to weed.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
There it is, he said, uh is. They printed a
small piece of paper had his name on it. He
went in locked door, two lines with ropes like the
BMV is kind of the way he described it.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
He said, there was like ten in line.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
A medical was one here and there, but they always
look or always took the next medical one if that
there was somebody in line. In other words, it was
almost like they were going to help them first. If
you were there recreationally, we have a caller, yes, exactly,
That's why I brought your medical marijuana card. Gets you,

(12:34):
you know, get your shuffled to the front of the line. Yep,
they help you first, and then said that the prices
are outrageous. He got edibles, He did get some flour, uh.
And then he also, I'm trying to think about that.
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Popcorn was the Indica strain that he got. It's called popcorn.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
He said, the quality is really good though, he did
say it was really good, but it was more way
more expensive than remembering.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Down the price and this is not going to be sustainable.
I mean said.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Quality was good though, but again way overpriced compared to
what you can get in Michigan or what have you.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
So there.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I mean, my god, if when you can get a
half ounce in Michigan for like sixty bucks and you're
paying what forty dollars for three grant for basically an.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Eighth here, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Even when we do something good with like weather, depending
on your perspective, even when Ohio does something, they find
a way to screw it up in the implementation and
execution of it. That's because there are lawmakers involved, That's why.
And there's people pissed because they want a piece of
that pot. Yes, Yet too many people actually way too many, Yeah,

(13:52):
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