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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Happy Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Chuck, of course was on this morning if you had
the radio on and you heard him on for Mike
Elliott Columbus Morning News. So yeah, Chuck is clearly not
pulling double duty today. I know slacker, that's what he is.
But but no, he's not in this afternoon the other
laugh you're hearing right now, former RP chair and Trump
(00:24):
campaign advisor Bob pa Doucheck joining me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Man, it's been a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It has. I've come out of hiding. I didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I don't want to share the reasons over the air,
but but I've emerged, tan, rested and ready.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Is uh did you dry out? Is that what we're talking? No?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, no, just kidding, nod.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So my wife and I have our twenty fifth wedding
anniversary coming up next week.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Wow, congratulations, thank you. That woman deserves a medal, two
medals for dealing with you.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
She doesn't need any more for.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Twenty five years. Business check, You are a saint. You
are a national treasure, is what you are. She is.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think many people would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes, you have you have a darling daughter as well,
and I know you have multiple but two daughters.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I only met the one Blarissa, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, and I couldn't remember her name, but the backstage,
and then she came here one time with you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So she's actually serving as a Senate page in the
Ohio Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You're letting her get into this craziness.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, it was one of those things. I took her,
took her down to campus. She's going to school in uh,
South Carolina, And I took her to campus and they
register for their classes and stuff, and she goes, hey,
I want you to know, I'm going to change my major.
She was like a business major.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
When she applied. I go, oh, what do? She goes
political science.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I was just like, no pol side for you, No,
no soup for you.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
So this is I'm hoping to maybe this will encourage
her to go to law school or something like that
that we'll see, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And then my yeah, because you want her to make money, right,
So you're like, Larissa, you got to go to law school.
If you're going to make any money, you're not going
to do it in politics, unless, of course, you know
you're Pelosi or all of the insider trading stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well, Look, here's the thing about this. It's a tough
business man, is you know. I mean there are a
lot of professions that people are in and they realize like, yeah,
I'm good at this. I love what I'm doing, but like,
I do not want my kids to go into it, right,
So I don't know, would you want one of your
kids to go on to radio?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, I don't think this.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The broadcast medium, by and large is not even close
to the way it was when I started.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And could you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Say that politics over the last hundred years have not
really changed much.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I mean, it's cutthroat, is all get out. What's really changed.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Though, Well, no, it's the Constitution hasn't changed.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Listen, I would say it's really changed since the Clinton
hears It used to be well, used to be much
more congenial people to talk about yes, you know, Ronald
Reagan and all that stuff. But yeah, that's not like
that anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So where I was going with that is like, you know,
like if Stone said he wanted to do this, I
would say, you know, there's you know, depending on where
you end up, there's okay, money in it for as
far as radio goes, but it's it's there's so much,
there's so little live radio left. I don't know anything else. Yeah,
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people talk about podcasts. I'm like, I don't know how
to podcast. I don't know how to go into a studio.
To me, that feels like a fake broadcast. I like
it live with no net, like what we're doing right now.
I don't know anything else. I've been doing this for
thirty seven years, and I don't know. The podcasts that
you hear every day on the six to ten page
are a recording of the live broadcast. So I don't
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go in there, Chuck, and I don't go in We
don't you know, we're not in a studio that And look, God,
we know that there can be crazy money in that.
We're Rogan's the He's the very very crazy and that
most people will never get to. But then there's a
medium area. But you have to get so many people
clearly that are clicking on your stuff and all of
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that and then monetizing it and all of those things.
I just all of that stuff. I know how to do.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I do, but I just my juice. Everything goes when
it's go time. At three o'clock. I'm like, you know,
I feel like if I had to try to do
a podcast every day, it would be manufactured as far
as trying to get pumped up or because this is
a natural high for me that happens most days now.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
If I come in and I had a terrible night's
sleep or I'm not feeling well or whatever off day
or whatever, Yes, I can't locate my fastball.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, that happens plenty of times, especially when you're live.
It can really be magnified.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
But that's where I try to get rocket juice or
any other kind of stuff that I can kind of
get up a little bit. Yeah, and then once I
get gone, all I got shove off from the edge
and then I'm out sailing around until I come back
at six, you know, come back to shore, and I
do okay in that I can once I get going.
I feel like with a podcast, I just would be like,
I think you'd.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Be great at it. I think you will.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I would be much.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
More I would be much more animated, and my and
my language would be much much different if.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
You did one with like, uh, like two or three
people or something like that. One other person, Yeah, okay,
because you have a pretty good format with you know,
with you and Chuck or me or whoever, you have
lots of different guests and things. Yeah, the dynamics pretty solid,
I think. For I think you do a great job
with that. So I don't think the podcast thing would
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be much different. And some of those are live. I mean,
the one thing you wouldn't want is to like the
video aspects of podcasts because you and I both have
faces for a radio.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And that's just it too. I don't I don't care
about that.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I if I wanted to try to go that route,
if I was pretty I try to been on TV,
I would, yeah, I really feel like, but you wouldn't
get to be as as opinionated doing.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
TV for the most part.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Excuse me, if you're like a news person, you know
there they have to be middle of the road. They
try to be well, we know a lot of these
idiots aren't like on legacy media.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Like if Stone or Josephine said they wanted to venture
into this, I feel like because they're they just know
podcasts and they don't know a lot about live radio.
But man, you take somebody, see I could go do that.
I don't know, I might be able to stumble through it.
But you take one of them and put them in
a live situation, they're like, they wouldn't it would it
would not probably wouldn't be well, especially if they don't
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have that in their background live right. Yeah, so but
I would try to encourage them, you know, if they
did want to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But yeah, kind of to your point with your daughter
wanting to do that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well, we'll see, but you're kind of going, hey, maybe
you get an all degree.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Or you know or something.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, look, I think for in this I give to advice,
this advice to a lot of people that are interested
in getting politics or honestly whatever. You know, if you're
in high school, you're in college in the summertime, you
can do these internships, get a look at what it's
like and see like, yeah, this is kind of like
not for me, or I really like this, or maybe
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i'd be interested in that. You know, when you're in
your twenties, you got a lot of freedom to look
around and dial into what you're interested in and what
you like and take advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well, and Josie was, and it's not all we ruled out,
but she was thinking she might wanted to get into
the FBI. You know, so law enforcement might have been
a direction for her, which I was like, okay, And
I was kind of painting a very vivid picture as
to what she's going to step into, right, and.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You know that, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I don't know where she would come down dealing with
a real bad guy who literally doesn't care about her
well being. Yeah, because I know her, she's my daughter.
But and again that's all I know. But at the
same time, it terrifies the hell out of me.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, you know, one of the things that surprised me
is my kids. As you were saying, you have your
perception of your children, but then you hear other people's perception,
and it's always been positive for that's awesome. People I
know say all your your daughter's great or you.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Know, yeah, so then you're going, she's got a chance.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Then yeah, maybe must have been her mom.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Good thing she was involved in the gene pool. That's
what I always go people like with Jenny. I always
tell people that I'm glad she was involved because kids
would be doomed if it was just me.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It'd kind of be hard if she wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, it's downright and possible quite frankly, man.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I uh, you know what, I'll get into that a
little bit later. I'm going down a list of stuff here,
the big beautiful bill, So the thing the first and foremost,
because I don't know, I kind of feels like I
approach things.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
From the human side.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, every single time I try to look for the
human aspect or it always just kind of comes out
because it seems like that part of my brain is
drawn to that aspect of this. And the first thing
was that the house those guys went twenty one hours.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And I even said to Congressman Balderson yesterday I sent
him a text, I go, hey, are you so he's
back in town. He's in twelve is district, and he goes, yeah,
I had a quick nap, and then that's it.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm still I flew in and I'm dat da da.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But I was just like, oh my lord, like, yeah,
I don't know how those guys do it.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And see, that's what I think a lot of your
listeners don't get to see the perspective of because your
friends with Toy, you know him, and yeah, and and
a bunch of other guys might carry and other folks,
and people don't realize how hard they work because they
got to work, you know, down in DC. They got
to work on their campaign, they got to work to
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do their job, they got to work on their committees,
they got to work in their district, They got to
do all this stuff. And it's it is, many times,
like a lot of things in life, somewhat of a
thankless job.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It ain't no nine to five. No, I'll tell you
it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And I tell you with as title margin as they
have in the US House of Representatives, to pass this
bill is a tremendous achievement. A lot of credit goes
to the speaker and the leadership there, and a lot
of credit goes to President Trump. Only he can like
focus people and present something this big and this will
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really fundamentally change this country, and in a way that
President Trump campaigned on not just last year in twenty
twenty four, but in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen. This
is a culmination all of that. You know, we're going
to have these Trump tax cuts that come back. It's
going to be a huge shot in the yard of
the economy. But what most people don't realize is Passing
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this and getting this in the law gives him a
lot of leverage on the terriff issue. Now, you know,
there's a lot of countries that are been holding back
on the tariff thing and deciding, well, well, we'll wait,
We'll let the US economy tank under tariffs or something
or not passing you know, the tax bill.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We'll let all that like create like a train wreck.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Huge mistake, because now that's not going to happen because
the the think about the jolt you talked about getting
a jolt, Passing this bill is going to be a
huge jolt. It's going to be the stock market's going
to change. Uh, it's going to change. It's going to
create so many jobs. Yeah, I mean we already have
lower inflation. This is just going to really be a
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jump start to it. Man and and and that creates
momentum that creates more leverage with these tariffs. Because if
you're one of these countries that's decide like, hey, we
can get a better deal for the US economies in
a worse shape or in a bad shape, we'll wait
for that, they're going to miss out because passing this bill,
getting this bill through the House, and I predict it's
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going to get through the Senate, maybe some minor changes.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And things, huge, huge, huge win for the president.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So the countries that are waiting for that window is
going to close, and then they're going to be like, oh,
we should have tried to get because then once we're
in better shape, then it's not so much like nah,
we're not interested there.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Right, So the ones that are first, that are that
have got it together, and there's a lot of Asian
countries have done this, got ahead of this and are
coming in with good deals.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
The one things the president did I thought that was brilliant.
Him and his trade advisors were to like, hey, we
want you to show us your best offer, give us,
give us a deal, put a deal on the table.
You know, as anybody starts a negotiation, the first person
to put something down, you know, is at a disadvantage,
you know, and you know that's our president.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Working for America, putting us first.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I mean, when people hear these things on the campaign,
you know, it's kind of a notion, it's kind of
an idea. But we're seeing now the last couple of
months how that really manifests itself. And you're seeing it
in the tariffs, you're seeing it in the in the
big beautiful bill, and you're seeing it in the trade
deals are going to come out of all this.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So why are we hearing so much about you're killing medicaid,
You're going to be taking food out of the mouths
of kids.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Democrat talking points, I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
They're they're empty, they're they're not correct, they're false.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Well, and they're going to be proving even more false
because as we go through and you see the economy grow,
you see opportunity created, you see more jobs, you see
prices come down, their narrative is going to ring hollow.
You know, they say these things, they say, these things
are going to happen. You know, Chuck Schumer gets up
and says this is going to happen, or King Jeffries
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gets up and says this is going to happen, and
then you know, it does happen, and.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Then they never They just moved to.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
A different talking ability, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, they moved to a different talking point.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And then so the beautiful part of that is all
of those things, the speeches are the things where they
stand there and bang their fist, you know, on the
hill and they're talking about this is going to happen,
and this is gonna happen. Those are pre made political
ads for people who are running against them, wouldn't you say,
because you could use those and then go None of
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it came to fruition. So this is the person you're
planning on voting for again, Really, at what point do
you say, I've got to stop believing in these hollow fools.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
They have no idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Part of the problem with that and this is just functioning.
People have a short memory on those things.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That sucks.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, But here's where they don't have a short memory.
Joe Biden is fit and ready to be commander in chief.
He's been a great commander in chief. He has no problems.
Everybody knows that that was BS. I mean, it's obvious.
And to see the Democrats and their allies and the
media try to whitewash this or paper over it and
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make it go. They struggle. They haven't been able to
address that issue. That's going to linger with them a
long time.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
The other thing too with that is I don't how
does Jake Tapper, how is he able to benefit he
was complicit during the whole thing, and so he has
this book out now, acting like he's blowing the whistle,
and it's.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Just like, dude, you are such a pos how do
you even? How are? How are?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
And he's going to benefit, He's getting all of this
money from that book.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And I don't know about the axios.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Dude, I'm that shameless.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I mean, I mean, look, they're all held to account
for it. I mean there are there are reporters from
outlets who were calling this thing out and when they did,
they got shot down, they got attacked. I remember Laura Trump,
Jake Tapper tearing into Laura Trump, just calling her all
kinds of names and things, beating up or live on
the air for just speaking playing truth. Look, Americans are
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smarter these days because they get information from this radio program.
I've said it a million times every time I've been
on here, you know Blazer. It's people are getting information
from other outlets in other ways, and they're more informed
today than they've ever been. They're more dialed in today
than they've ever been. And that's why this stuff is resonating.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I think it was evident on November fifth of what
kind of echoes what you just said there, because that
then restored my faith. I go because I got to
tell you you talked about it well, dude, going into that,
I was worried. I was hopeful. I was cautiously optimistic,
but I was worried, I know. And America stood up
and I went.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You're kidding me. Seventy eight million people.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Saw the light he got, you know, I mean, he
got the popular too, and it's just like wow, you know,
it was unequivocally this was we don't want anything to
do with that previous administration anymore. None of the wok idiology,
none of the versice, we want none of it.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, even with Kamala Harris leading it now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I mean it was that's a that's really amazing. So