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Speaker 1 (00:17):
So I don't know if you heard, but the president
pardoned his son, and there's not a lot of people
are talking about that. But I thought, geez, I can't
believe nobody really wants to address this and kind of
talk about exactly what's happening. Hunter Biden's convictions and upcoming
court dates. He pled guilty to one count tax evasion,
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two counts filing false tax.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Return, both of those are felonies.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Then four counts failure to pay taxes misdemeanor, two counts
failure to file taxes misdemeanor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Found guilty of.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
One count false statement in purchase of firearm, one count
false statement to license firearms dealer out possession of firearm
by an unlawful user of controlled substance.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Then the upcoming court dates. Sentencing on the gun.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Charges was supposed to take place on December twelfth in
Delaware and sentencing on the tax charges on December sixteenth
in California. So that's where it stood prior to what
President Biden did last night. And so this is kind
of an interesting thing that has begun the conversation about this,
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And so let's bring in six Ton WTVN legal analyst
Brad kopfle is joining us. Also host of for the Defense.
Brad welcome in.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Hopefully you had a good Thanksgiving brother, I did.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Thank you very much. Always an honor to be on
with your great audience.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Thanks man, I appreciate you joining us. And I sent
you a screenshot of funny thing about pardons. You lose
your Fifth Amendment right, and then somebody went on to
say anything the pardon covers you can't be prosecuted, but
you can be compelled to testify and jailed for contempt
if you refuse.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And so I sent that to you this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
To kind of get the conversation started, to see if
you had thoughts and so on on this. But it
was interesting what you, you know, came back with and
you said, you know, geez, I got to look this
up because that's something that's out there all over social
media right now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So where are you at on that particular thing.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
First thing, We've got to look at the Supreme Court
of the United States, and there is no declaration from
the Supreme Court on the implication of a pardon and
whether or not that a citizen forfeits his or her
Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. I would easily argue
that it doesn't forfeit your Fifth Amendment right, it shouldn't
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forfeit any of your constitutional rights. More specifically, there are
always state prosecutions available, and that the pardon is only
only covers the federal charges. So you I'm sure you
could have some red state attorney general attorneys general looking
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if there's any contact or nexus with their home state
and Hunter Biden if they wanted to engage in law
fair on a state level, much the way the Democrats
did against Donald Trump on the state level in Georgia
and New York.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Hey, the thing that I struggled with Brad, and I
even put this on socials. Nobody's surprised that he did this, because,
you know, months ago when all of that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Was coming out, where he was being asked.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Point blank about it, and he was point blank saying no,
he wasn't going to pardon him, he was going to
trust the justice system, so on and so okay, nobody
I didn't believe that at the time. I was even
saying on the air, I'm like, look, there's no way
this guy, when it comes down to it, is going
to let his son go to prison when he has
the power to do something like get.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Him out of that. And I really didn't believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
So the thing that I struggle with mostly was the
timing and the tactic at which they went after President
Trump and they said nobody is above the law. Nobody
is above the law. That was their mantra. For how
long we kept hearing that over and over? Nobody's above
the law. And apparently there are some people that are
above the law. They have the last name Biden. So
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that's the thing that I'm struggling with the most out
of this entire situation, because I don't believe. I never
believed for a second that this guy was going to
let his son go to prison.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I just didn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I think for sure, I'm not surprised I certainly would
do it. I don't know why at this point in
time Biden wouldn't just pardon everyone was the last name
of Biden, including himself. I don't know. Look, if he's
got this type of presidential power, why not go and
pardon anyone who may be prosecuted under a potential federal
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abortion ban. Why wouldn't he every death row inmate who
is on death row pursued to federal charges I mean,
while he's at it, why not just throw in Donald Trump?
I mean, if he really is going to burn the
votes against the Democrats and for the failed coup attempt,
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well the actual the successful coup attempt on himself, and
to say the things that he said leading up to
the election that did not help the Democrat Party, why
not just pardon Trump as well. I think that would
be phenomenal. I doubt that would ever happen, But Blazer,
this is a we got to widen the aperture on this,
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this pardon. He had to ask, Okay, what's it too.
It's retroactive to January one, twenty fourteen, and what's the
significance of that? And that is going the stupentdously underqualified
drug addict hunter Biden was put on an energy board
in the most corrupt nation in the world that we're
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aware of, Ukraine, and paid a big chunk of money
every month, and it goes all the way to twenty
fourteen or twenty twenty four and beyond for crimes not
yet discovered. So it's not just those two prosecutions. And
as we now know, the Democrat war machine figured out
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how to bring state charges against Trump that dovetails what
I just said about. Maybe some red state attorney generals
will try to figure out if they can pick the
scab of the bidens. I doubt that happens. However, this
is just one machine gun nest on the beach that
Trump and MAGA and I like the acronym MANA make
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American normal again. The Hunter Biden pardon is just one
machine gun nest. The deep state is not a figment
of our imagination. It is not conspiracy right wing thinking. Originally,
what deep state came from the left.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It was the.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Disenfranchised or the folks from the left who thought that
there was this big deep state, secret state. Now, I
think most people who are paying attention have to go
back to the early fifties after World War Two, what
we do with that peace dividend. We talked about the
peace dividend after the fall of the Iron Curtain. Why
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stop there? Go all the way back. We were involved
when the Iran regime change in the early fifties. We
have had regime We've been part of regime change all
through Central America, Eastern Europe, Africa. And when you have
state actors acting on using black budgets, very deep inside
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the Department of Defense. That money is going. You have
almost a trillion dollars in twenty twenty four and probably
a trillion go on in twenty twenty five. That is
a giant bank account and that money must be put
to work someplace during these regime changes. Let's not forget
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the Iran Contra issue from a matter from the late
eighties where the Deep State sold weapons to Iran in
violation of federal law, ciphoned some of that money off
into offshore bank accounts that we're supposed to go to
fund Nicaraguan. What rebels Olie North went to prison for that.
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These are just little dots where the deep State acts
and gets caught and then some people go to prison.
Here the deep State gets caught and the deep State
each situation could only have maybe ten or twelve people.
You know, the Iran Contra was very small number of
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folks involved in that. But we're going to find out,
and American people really want to know what all have
we been doing with our hundreds of billions of dollars
that are in the defense budget and the black budgets
that don't get audit, it don't get published. Just trust
us and this is where a lot of people fell
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in behind Donald Trump because they don't want World War three.
They don't want war in Ukraine, the Middle East. And
Trump administration is the band of brothers that's plowing onto
the beachheads and they're not stopping in Hunter Biden. They're
going all the way into the Imperial City.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
The question for.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
America is going to be are we okay with funding
regime changes all across the world on the offpiceite it's
nationals security, We're I think we're going to find out
that millions and billions of dollars have been diverted to
private pockets as we have walked into Ukraine, Iran, all
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the stuff that we've.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Done, right bred bre let me let me ask you,
because I know we're limited on time here.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
This is Chuck. I.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
When a presidential pardon is given, must the pardoner be
specifically named, and must the offenses for what you are
being part and also be itemized? Or is this just
a blanket thing twenty fourteen to today? Anything you did during
that period of time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I went out, I found I went online. I found
the actual declaration issued by President Biden, and it does
both Chuck It specifically references the criminal Federal criminal prosecution
slash convictions, and it also says for all crimes not
yet discovered. So it's it is the hippoca. See now,
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the crow that is being must be forced down the
throats of mainstream media. And once again Baggott turns out
that we've been right all along. But this isn't just
that this will all lead back to money laundering. This
is how the game has been played at the highest
levels of power. And you have to ask yourself that
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Barack Obama get these these mansions wherever where all they
are just strictly on book deals and speaking engagements. The
Clinton Foundation needs to be looked at all the n
g os. Uh, many of the n g os, the
most prominent being the National Endowment for Democracy NED, George
Soros Open Society, even NSD International. There's a there will
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be connective tissue between your tax dollars those NGOs and
arming rebels in various nations. Today it's Syria.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Do you think do you think that that's on the
docket for Trump when he takes Okay, because that'll be
interesting once that, once that begins to happen, it's going
to be like what the light switch and the cup
croag is running running for.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Cover, right.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think the American people are in for a wake
up call. It it's this is not just hyperbole.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
We have not.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Had We have not had war since nineteen the declaration
of war, since nineteen forty one. There's a reason for that.
We've had this deep state that has kept the rest
of the world in chaos. And we have to decide
as a people, are we cool with that or not?
But the American people can absolutely handle the truth hunter
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Biden and the clearly the pay to play scheme in Ukraine,
You're going to hear a lot about pay to play.
In China, You're going to hear a lot about pay
to play in various the stands. Curtis, it was about
to Stan. You're gonna hear about this. And it doesn't
just end with the Bidens. It gets back to the Obamas.
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It's going to go to the Clintons, it may even
go to the Bushes, and so America we need to
be ready for that.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Fascinating WTVN legal analyst host of for the Defense Brad Kopfel, Brad,
this is incredibly insightful and you and I going back
and forth earlier too. I was I was like reading
some of this stuff and I'm just like, wow, this
is uh, this is huge, and we're about to see
it play out real time. I can't thank you enough
for jumping on with us, and I know you're like,
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I need about another hour.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And a half.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We could do four thousand questions on this, Brad, thank
you so much for jumping on with us.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Thanks see you, brother.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Listen on your time Blazer Show podcasts on six '
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Speaker 1 (13:54):
All right, you got a lot of people on hold
a two to one WTVN one eight hundred and sixty
ten WTVN. Would you have done what Biden did? Would
you have done what President Biden did? Would you not
necessarily maybe a son, but a family member? So on
which we'll get to your calls here momentarily. Your ABC
six First Warning Weather Chief meteorologist Marshall McPeak is joining
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us now. Marshall, we were my wife and I were
in Cincinnati on Friday. We went and saw Brett Michaels,
of course, the lead singer from Poison. He was he's
touring right now. The Brett Michaels band and it was
really really good. Anyway, I brought that up to tell you.
We went to Council Oak, which is there inside the
hard Rock casino in Cincinnati, and my wife got this
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pair martini and I know, I took a sip of it.
I'm like, oh, lordy lord, it was that's a that's
a sneaky drinks and yeah, those are the ones that
you're drinking.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You're like, oh, that tastes so good. It's like, oh,
I can't stop. How am I gonna stop dreaming?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
You?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Take a sip of it? And I got a smoked
old fashion that just was so yummy. I don't even
know the bourbon they used, because I said, can I
call the bourbon and she said, you can, but I'm
gonna up charge you. And she said, I think you'd
be hard pressed to tell me you don't like the
bourbon that I'm going to use for it, and I
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just said, I'm gonna trust you, because man, that sold me.
How she was so confident the bartender and I said, nope,
do it, do your thing.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And I still don't even know what it was, but
it was really good.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I know it wasn't Woodford reserve because I was staring
at that when she to see if she picked it up.
And that's typically what i'll order with that, I'll get
a Woodford reserve or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But anyway, nice angels, envy something angels exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
I'm guessing your your par martini had a little bit
of elder flower in it, and yeahs probably just super smooth, okantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
All I know is, yeah, my wife's like, try this,
and I was like, oh, lordy, this is amazing.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I was like, nice, you actually did that, old lord
and exactly the same key both times.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm impressed. Oh, Chuck's keeping track.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Actually not David Lee Roff because you hit the same
key times exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, he's got really old droopy vocal cords. Now he's
he's beat those up.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
SoCal cords ain't the only thing.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's not the only droopy thing anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So yeah, the winter's here everybody, in case you were wondering.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So I don't know, if.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
I don't know, if you've ever looked at o Dot's website,
they have ogo dot com and you can look at
cameras all over the state, right, so all the traffic cameras.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So if you go to the the OGO website.
Speaker 8 (16:41):
And you go up to northern Ohio and you look
at like Lakewood, Ohio, and you can see a long
eye ninety everything's green.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's very nice.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
And then you get out a little farther towards like
East Lake, there's a little bit of snow on the ground.
And then you get out toward like like Ashtabula County, and.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's just wide out everywhere.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
It's just so.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
So the east side of Cleveland on out into northeastern Ohio.
They've been measuring the snow in six to twelve inch increments.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
There are parts of.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
The area around Erie that have already had close to
four feet, some places closer to five.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Where was Buffalo because I saw they got pummeled, man
on they run them.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
It's like the south side of Buffalo. Oh crazy, how
much snow fell?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, And there you know again in some areas three
to four feet worth of snow. Parts of Erie County, Pennsylvania,
are likely to pick up another foot or two by tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Crazy.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
It's just it's insane.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
And then what will happen is next week the wind'll
shift a little bit and the lake effect won't be
as heavy in some of those areas, but then it
shifts again on Thursday and comes right back in again,
so they'll have like twenty four hours, eighteen to twenty
four hours to clean up as much as they possibly
can before it all starts over again. So the lake
effect snow up there has been just incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
For us.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
We've had a few flurries, that's about it. We may
still get a couple of flurries tonight. Twenty degrees for
the overnight low wind chills in the potential mid teens
for us, maybe a few places in the single digits.
Thirty five for your day tomorrow, some clouds, then some sun,
and then we get into a little bit of wintery
mix on Wednesday. It's not gonna be much, but a
little bit of a hit or miss rain snow mix.
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Some of that's some flurries by Thursday morning. Wednesday, I
have forty Thursday twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
All right, Marshall, thank you. It is thirty one right now.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Do you remember that TV show Under the Dome? No,
not many people watched it. I was one of the
few where the city was under a dome. And I'm
just thinking people in Buffalo. Parlay watched that win. You
know that's an idea of a big.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Feel a big yeah, let's felt a big dome over
my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, it's absolutely nuts when you're if you're watching potball
last night was like crazy, right seeing that. So we're
talking earlier about you know, Biden pardoning Hunter, and the
question came up, would you do it if you were
in that position, if it were your son, your daughter,
your mom, your dad and aunt and uncle, friend even,
would you do it? My friend Steve sent me a
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note and he goes, I would absolutely pardon my kid.
I would have come out and said so. And he goes,
I think that's what makes Trump Trump. He comes off believable.
I don't think Biden would have been punished for saying so.
In fact, Americans would.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Have liked him more.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
This is his take, This is Steve's take, and he goes,
did it wrong? But I was one hundred percent what
I would have done. It's what I would have done.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
And Trump even said he would be he would be
inclined to pardon Hunter. Biden, Yeah, which I thought showed
a hell of a lot of class on his part.
But here here's and I told you this all the year.
I could make an exception, a little bit of an exception.
If mister Biden had also said politics shouldn't enter into prosecution.
My son was a vict them here, and I'm also
partnering Donald Trump for any of those convictions in New
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York City because those are politically motivated as well.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
There.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I would have said, Okay, this guy's actually trying to
even and balance things out here.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Hey Elmer, welcome to the show. So where are you
at on this?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I'm gonna check.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
Hey, if he too missed the crime, you've.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Got to do the time.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So do you have kids?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No, I got cats.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
They just like kids.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I just I think it's interesting to set that up
for your answer is to to you know, be able
to ask if you have kids and so. But you're saying, look,
if he did the crime, he's got to do the time.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, Thanks Elmer, appreciate that. Hey, Scott, welcome to the show.
Speaker 11 (20:47):
Hey enjoy the show. And I like to just start
my commentary like I normally always do, say happy birthday
to Corby.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Anyway, I think that any anytime that you know you,
everything's different, you know, It's hard for me to say
what I you know, pardon my son or whatever, because
very few people are in the position that Joe and
Hunter are actually in. The What I take away from
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this is the fact that you know the character. If
you think that if you put Donald Trump in the
position of Joe Biden, and you put Don Jr. In
the guilty things that Hunter has done, I don't think
Trump would pardon him because of Trump's character. However, when
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you're the one that has the power of the pardon
and you are more guilty than your son is doing crimes, why.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Not because he's the big guy.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, if they come after the Hunter for things that
are not covered by this pardon, which is why I
was asking, Brad, is this all encompassing here? If they've
got him on anything. Look, he's obviously the mouse in
the maize. Now he's been pardoned for something. He thinks
he's Scott free. Yeah, what if they find something until
thirteen and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Federal too, Yeah, so state they could still find something
or I you know.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
He will throw his old daddy under the bus so quick,
because hey, you know he's old Scott.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Hey, Larry welcome to the show.
So what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Uh, who's my kid? I'd probably pardon him, but I
don't think Biden could pardon Trump for state crimes. And
as far as Chuck's take on it, what if whoever
you was wanting pardon had the goods on you. What
if Hunter went to dad and said, hey, I've got
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paperwork that implicates you.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Yeah, you think that's out.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Of the question.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
No, I don't. I just I'm laughing because it's very possible.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Crackhead.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, of course he threatened his dad if it meant
getting out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It could be Jill could be Jill.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
On his Behalfy's the monster too, That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And I don't I mean, it's gonna probably end up
being his whole family because all of them are going, hey, man,
if we're going down, we're taking you with us, you
know kind of a thing. So he's like, he's gonna
do a sweeping pardon for everybody. He's gonna have some
future pardons put out there.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I would think Kamala for misappropriation of all the money
that came in to allegally support a campaign that never
should have existed in the first place. Billion of Obamas
who have how many houses after? Because he wrote a
book that four people read and and suddenly he's got
mansions all over the place.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They could be far encompassing people.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, that's crazy, Larry, thank you, And yeah, that's that
is an interesting take that Larry had right there going Hey,
you know, he's going, hey, Dad, you're gonna you're gonna
pardon me or guess what I'm a I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Be the whistleblower. Yeah, I'm gonna make sure that you
go down too.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Remember when remember when Biden was on stage and he said,
I told him that they don't give her that prosecutor.
They're not going to see that one billion dollars in
eight It's right there.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
We all saw and heard it.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, this guy used American taxpayer money and the power
of the US government to get the heat off his
kids butt.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I just don't think I could send my son to
uh to prison. I just I don't think I could
do it if I had the power to keep him out.
And then you know, basically go well, yeah, man, this
is whoa. It's complicated, right, so complicated?
Speaker 12 (25:07):
Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I didn't know what you were doing over I thought
you were working on a pardon for Ryan Day.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I think there are a lot of people right now
who are going, man, can he get one? Because there
are a lot of people just really going after him
right now. He is part of our best Buckeye coverage
and I'm bringing him up. Roy Hal Roy, Welcome again
to the Mark Blazer Show. And how are you doing?
How was your Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
How much food did you eat?
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Man, Thanksgiving was absolutely awesome. The hardest thing is not
about how much you eat on Thanksgiving is how long
did you go eating these leftovers to That's the debate. Like,
you know, Thursday is pretty solid, but you know the
food is bet the day after thanks given that day
after that's probably when the food is the best. But
then you got Saturday, Sunday. Here we are on Monday. Yeah, Like,
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if you still eat leftovers on Monday, you probably need
to start to schedule that trip to the hospital. I mean,
he probably you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you know,
So I'm trying to figure out exactly what I'm gonna
do because I still got a couple of things left.
But overall was excellent.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, man, that's it, and that's the that is the
debate every year. It is a lifelong debate how long
can you eat those leftovers? Because I'm telling you, Roy,
I work with a guy back in rock radio a
whole long time ago who that guy would take it
to the limit. I mean he was I told him.
I would always tell him, like, man, you are crazy
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with how you roll the dice. He wouldn't let anything go.
I mean we're talking, you know, bread when it has
mold on it. He's like, I just tear that part off,
man and keep eating, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He is.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Uh, he's one of those people.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But man, I maintain he had a stomach of steel
because this guy would eat the hottest hot sauce where
I would I would literally like dip my pinky in
it and taste it and the end of my tongue
would be numb for like ten minutes. And this dude
is like dumping it on his food. And it was
crazy the way. But but that's what that kind of
reminds me. I always think of him. Mo is my buddy,
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my partner in crying back when I did rock radio.
He was a guy who would eat leftovers. I'm going, man,
the regular mortal man wouldn't even think about nine days
after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You know. He's like, all you gotta do is smell it. Yeah,
you go, that's it right there, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
It's it when the queen comes over here, smell this.
I know it's good. I don't need to take it.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Go.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, here's two things on that. Number One, that the
type of guy you don't want to shake their hands.
You fit bump that guy. You don't shake it, you
don't shake his hand. Yeah, you fit bump that guy.
In number two, you learn at an early age not
the smell thing, like in middle school, high school, you know,
smell fingers and do all. That's disgusting and weird. It's
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just weird, man. So like, no, you just use wisdom.
You don't use the smell test to determine whether or
not something is healthy or good to.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right, right, I understand Roy Hall part of our best
Buckeye coverage joining us now, So all right, I didn't
speak to you before the game. We did not exchange
texts or anything to try to get your take on.
So this is fresh for me. I didn't and if
you put anything out there. I did not hear any
of it, but your initial when the last seconds ticked
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off on Saturday and you saw that the Buckeyes were
on the losing end of a thirteen to ten score
in our house versus that team up north, what were
your immediate thoughts right there? And just keep in mind
we only have about well, we don't have a little.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
More than an hour. Like when you start talking about.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
This, you know, like there's a couple sides of it
that there's there's you kind of get as a former player,
you get splitting half. There's the how do I feel
as a player, how do I feel as alumni? Then
like how do I feel as a human? Right? And
so listening to coach Day's comments before the game, if
you remember what he said in one of his interviews,
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he said, you know, losing three straight to Michigan, it
comes in second only to his father passing away, And
so it kind of lets you know how weighty it
is on him, his family, the people that love him
and people that care about them. And from a human standpoint,
immediately I went to, holy crap, you know, how is
my guy doing? Right? Like you just the weight of
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a million people or a million two million plus in
this city comes down on you, especially when you lose
a game in that fashion. Twenty three and a half
point favorite can't become a Big ten champion now because
we came to competing the game, just everything that went
into it, twenty million dollar roster, all the stuff that
we can read on on headlines. But from a human standpoint,
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I always take to take time to step back and
think about how those those coaches are feeling, how those
players are feeling. You know, those tiers are real tiers,
That that burden and that that anxiety is real, man,
Like that stress is real, Like it takes years off
your life. And I'm not complaining for him, right, you
make ten million dollars a year, like you're built to
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be in that position. They're compensated to be in that position. However,
I started thinking about that, man, like, no one wants
two million people pissed off at you, Like I don't
like when one person's mad to me, let alone two
million that can google your address, right, And so there's
that side. From a football perspective, it was hugely and
largely disappointing to say it, even like that's not even
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putting putting in the right perspective, it was the worst
feeling ever to lose in that fashion, to watch and
then to watch what happened post game, it just didn't
represent who we are as buck Eyes. We did have
the opportunity to fight on the field, it didn't happen,
and so it was just an ugly look for us. Man,
here's the bad part about it overall, Blazer, if we
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have to sit in this thing for two weeks, I
don't know if you were ever a little kid and
made a mistake and uh maybe like pe Japans and
had to sit in it or got God forbid, you
took a dump on mistake, like you shart it or something,
you know what I'm saying, and you had to sit
in it, and you just had you You're on the
school bus and you're like, man, I got thirty minutes
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before I get home. I know they could smell it. Like.
It's just awful, bro, we got to sit at this
We gotta sit in this thing for two or two
and a half weeks and play another football team now.
Was terrible. Man, It's awful, man. So hopefully hopefully we
get out of this thing soon.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Man, so Roy, would you defend the block oh in
the middle of the field the same way? I feel
like based on an answer kind of what you were
talking about earlier, the answer is no, you would have
not done that.
Speaker 10 (31:50):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
So coach Trussell, Uh, you know, it would have been
a couple guys and went, I'll defend that block over.
But when Trust found out who it was, you would
have been sitting right there would have been an immediate
you already know like it would have been an immediate
like Coach Trust used to always say, remember who you are. Now,
we got some cats that would have went out there
and risked it all like cool. And maybe those cats
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would have been dudes that maybe it wouldn't have been
suspended because they was the first round draft pick or starter.
To me, Bro, I wouldn't going out there to defend
nothing like Listen, I would take my abuse something. Listen,
we beat I have I got four pair of gold pins.
So my point is we didn't even have to be
in position to defend the middle of the field because
it never happened to us. And that's where that's where
it's your time to fight. You've seen Carmen Ohio, you
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go in the locker room. You hear about them planting
the flag after the fact, and you hold on to
that at the following year, man, like it's just one
of those things. And now, with these guys making so
much money and all of that stuff, you risk injury.
What if one of our main stars had a got
hit in the face with a helmet, a broken wrist
or something because they wanted to argue over little flag. Man,
Nobody care about that flag. You can't even plan a
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flag on the field, turf field anyway. It's it's just
a thing, man. So it's like, ain't no sense of
turning into a gangster just because you listen to King
Bond and all that crazy music. Listen, he had an
opportunity to fight when he was on the field. They said,
take your lumps, go to the locker room, feel that pain,
and hopefully take it out on the field in the
playoff game.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So after the.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Hit on Will Howard, do you feel like he was
the same after that? I know that's being floated out there,
but you know, I can't help it just being you know,
observing and watching. It's just like what happened, and you
can only kind of look back and think, man, maybe
something was happening there, because everybody kept saying, why are.
Speaker 13 (33:32):
They handing it off over and over and over and
running into the strengths of a otherwise not very strong
Michigan team, Like why are they doing that? There's so
many things that were like a head scratcher, And maybe
I'm looking too much into it, but did you think about.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
That at all? I don't really think so, because that
would be the undermine like our doctors and trainers and
all that. That puts us in a tough situation to
say that the trainers allow one of our best athletes
to go on the field with a concussion knowingly just
to be able to beat that team up norf and
so you open up to a whole another can of
worms if they say he was fine, he was fine.
(34:09):
I think it was just a matter of best on best.
You know, last year they had you know, their cornerback
Will Johnson, who was actually on the field healthy last year,
go up against Marvin Harrison Junior. And we didn't back
down that testing those guys. Now here's the thing. Will
Johnathan had an intercession last year too when we went
best on best. I think they felt like our five
or so was better than their down four or their
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four down linemen in their linebacker, and so it just
didn't work out that way. Like whenever coaches have a plan,
the plan is not to get stuff two yards in
the backfield to get hit, you know what I mean
down low. You got to be able to run the
football now, you know, as the guys that's sitting on
the couch like throw the football. Yeah, I want to
see the ball go up to Jeremiah Smith Moore. I
want to see the ball go to a Neca Buca Moore.
But the way that they were playing that shell coverage,
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they literally just took away pretty much everybody except Cardnell Tate,
which is why he had six catchers or five catchers
in the first half. You know, so Will didn't look
the exact same in the second half. I'm not sure
why they pushed the ball up the field if he
was a problem throwing the ball players. Honestly, I think
they would have put in Devin or put in uh,
you know, somebody like that, But they didn't. So I'm
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assuming we went with the best option. Man, it just
didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Your talks on one hundred thousand dollars, fine, for each
school man.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
I ain't no money, man, That's what the average in
IL do is right now.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
They laughed at that front. Yeah listen.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Or what they said was we like seeing it's good
for ratings showing they all fighting in the middle of field,
like like like crazy people Like one hundred thousand dollars
is no money, bro, Like there's no And when I
say no money, I mean I know it's a lot
to us, but it's no money to the university. They's
twenty million dollars roster, one hundred grand. They're like, oh,
I will knock that out. That's cool. Nobody got suspended,
nobody got hurt. One hundred thousand and they just showing
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this over and over and over and over and over.
Here's the thing. The thing is, they gonna show that
fight at middle of field. But every Ohio State Michigan
game moving forward, in those pre game highlights, they're like,
good content. We t of showing David Boston and Charles
Wilson fighting at this game.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Great wet Now, yeah, I'm absolutely in agreement with everything
you just said.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
And then one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
You know what, I would rather see the Big ten
show me what they're gonna do with it for me school?
You know, I think it's so it's a ridiculous penalty.
The school don't care. The school could write that check
with their toenail. One hundred thousands means nothing. But what
is the Big ten gonna do? We're trying to show
you how to act like good people and this is bad.
What is a Big ten gonna do with two hundred
thousand dollars? I would love to see the league justify that. Yeah,
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what they're doing with that money?
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Hey, they're gonna They're gonna spend it on leftovers, leftovers
and hospital bills for everybody who five days and the
day leftover?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Hey, uh what? And so you know the whole coach
day thing. And I know this is out there too,
but he wins a Natty. Somehow, some way, the buck
Geyes end up winning a national championship. I feel like
the answer to this because I put you know, I
scribbled down all forgiven question mark, I feel like the
answer still is most of most of Buckeye Nation is like, Nope,
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it's not forgiven, because this game is more important than
a national championship to the average Buckeye fan.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Would you agree with that.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's more important than a national championship to the average Buckeye.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Fan, and I disagree.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Do you okay?
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Are you kidding me? I'm just wenna win And if
we win a national championship and lose to Michigan, it
does less in it just a little bit. But listen
if you if you're a sixteen year old and you're like, hey, Dad,
I want a Tesla and he was like, no, son,
I got you an s BO Bady Mercedes. You're not
gonna be like, oh man, It's like no, bro, Like
you didn't get exactly what you wanted, but you got
a national championship. So yeah, it's gonna be bittersweet. We
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lost to Michigan, but we also get to host that
Trophia and that's what it's about long term. Now, obviously
our first goal is to beat Michigan, then become Big
Ten champions, then become national champions. We don't beat Michigan,
we can't be Big ten champions, but if we could
be a national champion, are you kidding me? Like, you
still go down as a legend. Now, You're still gonna
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be legendary for being wanted for losing against Michigan right now, However,
you're gonna have a ring on your finger and we're
gonna still do a parade and have a ceremony or
celebration in the shoe like you gotta one. At this point,
it's about hope. Like, listen, man, we lost the Michigan.
You either can get over it. You're still gonna watch
the game. And when we win that national championship, don't
turn around so well we didn't beat Michigan. Yeah, letting
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people in Michigan say that, all right, we lost the Michigan.
It sucks. Feel that pain. Go sit in the room
in the dark, get angry, whatever you need to do.
But when we get on that field for the playoffs,
if you're a real Buck Eye fan, not an average one.
If you a real one, you're trying to win that name.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So what do you say to people who say coach
Day has gotta go after this one?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
What do you say to them?
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Listen, listen, I'm not gonna talk to because a lot
of those people aren't black people. So like I know
a lot of it's just too many of y'all out here, Blaze,
I am talking to all of them. I'm just talking
to certain certain people. I'm not gonna record at everybody.
You know, I speak for a living. I ain't gonna
get mad at everybody, right, you know. But what I
will stay to people considering firing coach Day for the
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offenses of losing four times in Michigan, I would say,
look at this overall record. I would say look at
the fact that, yes, this was a terrible loss. However,
give us an opportunity to make a run in the playoffs,
give us an opportunity continue to build this roster. Can
give us an opportunity what roster twenty billion out? Yeah,
give us an opportunity to continue to build the shift
the culture like college football is moving and let's see
(39:31):
what he can do. Who you gonna bring in, You're
gonna bring in Mike brabl Who you want to bring in,
You want to bring in Eddie. Do you want to
go eight and four in their first year? Or you
want to go a nine to three in their first year?
Beat Michigan and not make the playoffs, or beat Michigan
and lose in the first round. Just because you beat Michigan,
you could be two and ten, beat Michigan. That doesn't
make it a successful season. Michigan's going home. They're happy
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they be Ohio State and we get to go on
and try and within the national title. So the whole
fire and Ryan Day thing, like, I'm over that nonsense,
Like who you want to replace him with? Like who
you want to bring in? You're not bringing back trust,
You're not bringing back Urban. We've only had like five
or six coaches here. Who do you want to bring
in just to beat Michigan. This whole thing is bigger
than just beating Michigan. You got sixteen games you gotta
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win to win a national title. Like we lost to
Oregon Cool by a point or two or whatever it
may be. We ran through the Big Ten. Everybody was
on board. We lose the Michigan Not everybody want to
jump ship. Listen, man, I'm about people who are loyal.
Loyalty is not loyalty until it's tested, man, and we
getting tested right now. So I'm staying loyal and we're
gonna keep rocking and rolling as long as he's the
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head coach. I got his back. And if they decide
to move off other than.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Maybe not all right, I'm gonna get him a sweater
best for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
That's good that's good.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I think that might help psychologically.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Roy gonna need an excel and if it's going to
get over his chest, you might need a two X.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
I wear a large on purpose, I wear a triple medium.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I need my suf tight triple.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
He's got that medium.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
What's this smell like?
Speaker 6 (41:02):
That's terrible? Hey, Hey, you should never have never had
that question, Royal.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
He's part of our best buck eye coverage. We'll be
listening man as the Buckeyes mounted charge here. Hopefully they
can pull off the you know something really really special
here to kind of get that sour taste out of
everybody's mouth. But Roy, you're fantastic as always. Thanks brother
for jumping on with him.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Appreciate you see him.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Man, next time he's on. You need the pointer, sisters.
He's so shy as his introduction music right every.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
One, news, traffic, weather, sports, and the Mark Blazer Show
on six ' ten wtvn.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
SO coming up here just after the top of the hour.
Congressman Jim Jordan will be joining us choot. Meteorologists Marshall
McPeek joining us right now. So, Marshall, it's cold and
it's going to be cold, and it's cold.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
More cold, more cold after that cold told, yeah, it's
midwinter out there at this point, even though we still
have another what's three weeks before winter actually begins. So
we may get a couple of flurries out there tonight,
nothing that's gonna accumulate, but it's cold again. Twenty degrees
overnight tonight, thirty five for your day. Tomorrow, could get
a few flurries in the afternoon, but again.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
They're not gonna mount too much.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Wednesday a chance for some wintery mixed changing into some
rain later in the day. The temperatures will actually rise
during the day. Forty will be the high, happening after sunset,
and then twenty eight on Thursday, with windshills in the teens.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
All right, Marshall, thank you, It is thirty right now.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Marshall's that guy that always you know, when your face
falls off, your your toes are numb, your fingers are jammed.
The guy you know it could always be worse when
he said, well, winter's not for three weeks yet.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Thanks, Yeah, it can always be worse.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's total enough. I guess it could. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
This is a I can't believe it has been since
nineteen ninety six, since this, this whole.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Thing with John B Day Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
But let's bring in Alex Stone ABC News and first
and foremost, Alex, you have a great Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Did you have a great thanksgs?
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Wonderful?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Yeah, yeah? What about you guys?
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I mine was fantastic. Chuck got engaged.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Oh that's a good Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
How about that you gotta do something between the turkey
and the stuffing.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
Or that.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
There's so many jokes I gonna make there. But congratulations,
thank you, yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Thank you? And did I deserve the congratulations? Believe me?
I know, I definitely. I definitely kicked outside of my class.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah. Yeah, I kicked his coverage for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well, and they posted a picture and I knew ahead
of time he and I hope I'm not giving away
too much here, but he had showed me the ring
ahead of time, and I was just like, oh, look
at you, man, it'll be past the gravy and will
you marry me? You know kind of a thing. And
so yeah, the picture was up and and man, it
was like a million congratulations on socials and so on,
(44:03):
and uh, it's a it's a beautiful thing happening. And
you know, we talked about it too. It's just like
you know, uh, it was kind of like the discussion start.
I said, so this is your your second and it's
just like I said, I told him, I go, look
if things went south with me and my wife, my
current wife, I just said, that's it. I'm done and
(44:25):
I'm not getting married again. But you know what, you
never really, I guess can kind of see it coming.
If it's one of those things that just you go, Okay,
I can't deny this kind of a thing.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
You do it, Chuck, I believe in actually proposed not.
Speaker 9 (44:40):
How did you get to this point with her? Yeah,
she was.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Standing outside the house one day and I.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Just no, Actually, I did it in a way that
made perfect sense to me. At the beginning of the meal,
as I was, you know, everybody went around the table
and what they were thankful for, and I opened with
the prayer over the the meal and the things that
I was thankful for, naming her, and I thought that
was the appropriate time to show her how thankful I was.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
That is very nice.
Speaker 9 (45:07):
Were you nervous when you did it or no?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yes, although although there's no reason to expect her to
not say yes, that's that's a big deal, and yeah
it was. I might have shed a tear or two.
It met a great deal, and it took me a
long time to get it right, but I finally did congratulation.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Cool. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
We got to figure out who's going to play him
and then her in the lifetime version of the you
know the movie when it comes out.
Speaker 7 (45:38):
When they filmed it in Canada with the perfect little
old Christmas town there.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Who am I going to be?
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Like?
Speaker 4 (45:45):
What's his name? Will Sasso?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Chuck's looking at me like, dude, don't say that about like,
don't bring up lifetime?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Man? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
So I think if my math there's me correct, Alex
John Biday Ramsey would be twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
If she were still with us.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
She'd be thirty four. Thirty four, twenty eight years ago,
she'd be thirty four years old.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Thirty four, which is crazy to think about that, but
you know, it doesn't seem like it has been that long.
Somebody who obviously lived right through it, and you know,
I was a young adult at that time, and and
I when I think of it, I feel like it
just not that much time has gone by. This is
one of those things that I am fascinated by again
because clearly nobody has been you know, charged or whatever
(46:34):
officially or what have you.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
But tell me what is the latest on this?
Speaker 7 (46:38):
Yeah, so kind of like the Menendez Brothers, there is
this whole new interest in it because of a Netflix
documentary and a whole new generation that didn't It wasn't
alive in nineteen ninety six and they're now they're into
it and TikTok, and so there is this renewed push
on on Boulder police to figure it out because of
the new Netflix documentary. But we've got sources who are
telling us in progress he is being made once again
(47:00):
in this case, even though it's twenty eight years old
and it was Christmas night nineteen ninety six, and the
sources are saying that it's still not clear. They don't
know if they've got enough evidence that will ever pinpoint
a killer, but it would likely be DNA DNA and
who has found at the crime scene, a white male
that they have never been able to figure out whose
(47:21):
DNA that was, but they are trying, and in the
last couple of years now a new team has come
together from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and Boulder Police
to take a new look at the evidence and utilizing genealogy.
You know what we've seen with the BTK killer and
the Golden State killer and the University of Idaho killings
where they've gone and used familial DNA and figured out
(47:43):
who the killer was. That they want to do that
and maybe they're going to be able to do it.
Last week, the current Boulder Police chief said, our.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Agency is committed to doing everything we can to bring
justice to John Benay and hold her killer responsible.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
And John and Patsy Ramsey, the parents were cleared years ago,
with police saying they were not the killers.
Speaker 9 (48:00):
Nobody knows who really was.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
But the case is being they confirm actively investigated again
and that they are making progress, and the chief center,
you're hopeful.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
That the renewed public attention will generate more tips.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
So it really is coming down to this DNA at
the crime scene, in genealogy, if the killer is even
still alive, there's a good chance, almost thirty years later,
that the killer is long gone. If they can make
a match the DNA is degraded, it is only a
tiny amount, not enough potentially to get a large large
enough sample to put it into the DNA databases. But
(48:33):
they're working on it right now.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
So the Netflix documentary is that's the thing that's kind
of resurrected this, right.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
Yeah, I mean the last couple of years have been
working with this cold case team to figure it out.
But there is definitely new pressure. The chief had to
come out earlier than they do an annual update in Boulder.
They came out about a month early because of the
Netflix documentary. A lot of pressure on Boulder Police to
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, very interesting and yeah, we'll be following along for sure.
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Alex, thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
You got it later, guys, thank you sir.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
This could become a whole new direction for Netflix. I mean,
two stories like this that they both take off. They
could have like a Netflix Cyber Crime division or whatever. Yeah,
that just does documentaries like this trying to you know,
right wrongs in the past or whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah. Absolutely,
So I don't know if you heard, but the president
pardoned his son, and there's not a lot of people
are talking about that. But I thought, geez, I can't
believe nobody really wants to address this and kind of
talk about exactly what's happening. Hunter Biden's convictions and upcoming
court dates. He pled guilty to one count tax evasion,
(00:41):
two counts filing false tax.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Return, both of those are felonies.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Then four counts failure to pay taxes misdemeanor, two counts
failure to file taxes misdemeanor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Found guilty of.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
One count false statement in purchase of firearm, one count
false statement to license firearms dealer out possession of firearm
by an unlawful user of controlled substance.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Then the upcoming court dates. Sentencing on the gun.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Charges was supposed to take place on December twelfth in
Delaware and sentencing on the tax charges on December sixteenth
in California. So that's where it stood prior to what
President Biden did last night. And so this is kind
of an interesting thing that has begun the conversation about this,
(01:29):
And so let's bring in six Ton WTVN legal analyst
Brad kopfle is joining us. Also host of for the Defense.
Brad welcome in.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Hopefully you had a good Thanksgiving brother, I did.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Thank you very much. Always an honor to be on
with your great audience.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Thanks man, I appreciate you joining us. And I sent
you a screenshot of funny thing about pardons. You lose
your Fifth Amendment right, and then somebody went on to
say anything the pardon covers you can't be prosecuted, but
you can be compelled to testify and jailed for contempt
if you refuse.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And so I sent that to you this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
To kind of get the conversation started, to see if
you had thoughts and so on on this. But it
was interesting what you, you know, came back with and
you said, you know, geez, I got to look this
up because that's something that's out there all over social
media right now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So where are you at on that particular thing.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
First thing, We've got to look at the Supreme Court
of the United States, and there is no declaration from
the Supreme Court on the implication of a pardon and
whether or not that a citizen forfeits his or her
Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. I would easily argue
that it doesn't forfeit your Fifth Amendment right, it shouldn't
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forfeit any of your constitutional rights. More specifically, there are
always state prosecutions available, and that the pardon is only
only covers the federal charges. So you I'm sure you
could have some red state attorney general attorneys general looking
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if there's any contact or nexus with their home state
and Hunter Biden if they wanted to engage in law
fair on a state level, much the way the Democrats
did against Donald Trump on the state level in Georgia
and New York.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Hey, the thing that I struggled with Brad, and I
even put this on socials. Nobody's surprised that he did this, because,
you know, months ago when all of that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Was coming out, where he was being asked.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Point blank about it, and he was point blank saying no,
he wasn't going to pardon him, he was going to
trust the justice system, so on and so okay, nobody
I didn't believe that at the time. I was even
saying on the air, I'm like, look, there's no way
this guy, when it comes down to it, is going
to let his son go to prison when he has
the power to do something like get.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Him out of that. And I really didn't believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
So the thing that I struggle with mostly was the
timing and the tactic at which they went after President
Trump and they said nobody is above the law. Nobody
is above the law. That was their mantra. For how
long we kept hearing that over and over? Nobody's above
the law. And apparently there are some people that are
above the law. They have the last name Biden. So
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that's the thing that I'm struggling with the most out
of this entire situation, because I don't believe. I never
believed for a second that this guy was going to
let his son go to prison.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I just didn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I think for sure, I'm not surprised I certainly would
do it. I don't know why at this point in
time Biden wouldn't just pardon everyone was the last name
of Biden, including himself. I don't know. Look, if he's
got this type of presidential power, why not go and
pardon anyone who may be prosecuted under a potential federal
(04:57):
abortion ban. Why wouldn't he every death row inmate who
is on death row pursued to federal charges I mean,
while he's at it, why not just throw in Donald Trump?
I mean, if he really is going to burn the
votes against the Democrats and for the failed coup attempt,
(05:19):
well the actual the successful coup attempt on himself, and
to say the things that he said leading up to
the election that did not help the Democrat Party, why
not just pardon Trump as well. I think that would
be phenomenal. I doubt that would ever happen, But Blazer,
this is a we got to widen the aperture on this,
(05:41):
this pardon. He had to ask, Okay, what's it too.
It's retroactive to January one, twenty fourteen, and what's the
significance of that? And that is going the stupentdously underqualified
drug addict hunter Biden was put on an energy board
in the most corrupt nation in the world that we're
(06:04):
aware of, Ukraine, and paid a big chunk of money
every month, and it goes all the way to twenty
fourteen or twenty twenty four and beyond for crimes not
yet discovered. So it's not just those two prosecutions. And
as we now know, the Democrat war machine figured out
(06:26):
how to bring state charges against Trump that dovetails what
I just said about. Maybe some red state attorney generals
will try to figure out if they can pick the
scab of the bidens. I doubt that happens. However, this
is just one machine gun nest on the beach that
Trump and MAGA and I like the acronym MANA make
(06:49):
American normal again. The Hunter Biden pardon is just one
machine gun nest. The deep state is not a figment
of our imagination. It is not conspiracy right wing thinking. Originally,
what deep state came from the left.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It was the.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Disenfranchised or the folks from the left who thought that
there was this big deep state, secret state. Now, I
think most people who are paying attention have to go
back to the early fifties after World War Two, what
we do with that peace dividend. We talked about the
peace dividend after the fall of the Iron Curtain. Why
(07:34):
stop there? Go all the way back. We were involved
when the Iran regime change in the early fifties. We
have had regime We've been part of regime change all
through Central America, Eastern Europe, Africa. And when you have
state actors acting on using black budgets, very deep inside
(07:59):
the Department of Defense. That money is going. You have
almost a trillion dollars in twenty twenty four and probably
a trillion go on in twenty twenty five. That is
a giant bank account and that money must be put
to work someplace during these regime changes. Let's not forget
(08:20):
the Iran Contra issue from a matter from the late
eighties where the Deep State sold weapons to Iran in
violation of federal law, ciphoned some of that money off
into offshore bank accounts that we're supposed to go to
fund Nicaraguan. What rebels Olie North went to prison for that.
(08:41):
These are just little dots where the deep State acts
and gets caught and then some people go to prison.
Here the deep State gets caught and the deep State
each situation could only have maybe ten or twelve people.
You know, the Iran Contra was very small number of
(09:03):
folks involved in that. But we're going to find out,
and American people really want to know what all have
we been doing with our hundreds of billions of dollars
that are in the defense budget and the black budgets
that don't get audit, it don't get published. Just trust
us and this is where a lot of people fell
(09:26):
in behind Donald Trump because they don't want World War three.
They don't want war in Ukraine, the Middle East. And
Trump administration is the band of brothers that's plowing onto
the beachheads and they're not stopping in Hunter Biden. They're
going all the way into the Imperial City.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
The question for.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
America is going to be are we okay with funding
regime changes all across the world on the offpiceite it's
nationals security, We're I think we're going to find out
that millions and billions of dollars have been diverted to
private pockets as we have walked into Ukraine, Iran, all
(10:13):
the stuff that we've.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Done, right bred bre let me let me ask you,
because I know we're limited on time here.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
This is Chuck. I.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
When a presidential pardon is given, must the pardoner be
specifically named, and must the offenses for what you are
being part and also be itemized? Or is this just
a blanket thing twenty fourteen to today? Anything you did during
that period of time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I went out, I found I went online. I found
the actual declaration issued by President Biden, and it does
both Chuck It specifically references the criminal Federal criminal prosecution
slash convictions, and it also says for all crimes not
yet discovered. So it's it is the hippoca. See now,
(11:00):
the crow that is being must be forced down the
throats of mainstream media. And once again Baggott turns out
that we've been right all along. But this isn't just
that this will all lead back to money laundering. This
is how the game has been played at the highest
levels of power. And you have to ask yourself that
(11:24):
Barack Obama get these these mansions wherever where all they
are just strictly on book deals and speaking engagements. The
Clinton Foundation needs to be looked at all the n
g os. Uh, many of the n g os, the
most prominent being the National Endowment for Democracy NED, George
Soros Open Society, even NSD International. There's a there will
(11:48):
be connective tissue between your tax dollars those NGOs and
arming rebels in various nations. Today it's Syria.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Do you think do you think that that's on the
docket for Trump when he takes Okay, because that'll be
interesting once that, once that begins to happen, it's going
to be like what the light switch and the cup
croag is running running for.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Cover, right.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think the American people are in for a wake
up call. It it's this is not just hyperbole.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
We have not.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Had We have not had war since nineteen the declaration
of war, since nineteen forty one. There's a reason for that.
We've had this deep state that has kept the rest
of the world in chaos. And we have to decide
as a people, are we cool with that or not?
But the American people can absolutely handle the truth hunter
(12:47):
Biden and the clearly the pay to play scheme in Ukraine,
You're going to hear a lot about pay to play.
In China, You're going to hear a lot about pay
to play in various the stands. Curtis, it was about
to Stan. You're gonna hear about this. And it doesn't
just end with the Bidens. It gets back to the Obamas.
(13:08):
It's going to go to the Clintons, it may even
go to the Bushes, and so America we need to
be ready for that.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Fascinating WTVN legal analyst host of for the Defense Brad Kopfel, Brad,
this is incredibly insightful and you and I going back
and forth earlier too. I was I was like reading
some of this stuff and I'm just like, wow, this
is uh, this is huge, and we're about to see
it play out real time. I can't thank you enough
for jumping on with us, and I know you're like,
(13:37):
I need about another hour.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And a half.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We could do four thousand questions on this, Brad, thank
you so much for jumping on with us.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Thanks see you, brother.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Listen on your time Blazer Show podcasts on six '
ten WTVN dot com.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
All right, you got a lot of people on hold
a two to one WTVN one eight hundred and sixty
ten WTVN. Would you have done what Biden did? Would
you have done what President Biden did? Would you not
necessarily maybe a son, but a family member? So on
which we'll get to your calls here momentarily. Your ABC
six First Warning Weather Chief meteorologist Marshall McPeak is joining
(14:16):
us now. Marshall, we were my wife and I were
in Cincinnati on Friday. We went and saw Brett Michaels,
of course, the lead singer from Poison. He was he's
touring right now. The Brett Michaels band and it was
really really good. Anyway, I brought that up to tell you.
We went to Council Oak, which is there inside the
hard Rock casino in Cincinnati, and my wife got this
(14:38):
pair martini and I know, I took a sip of it.
I'm like, oh, lordy lord, it was that's a that's
a sneaky drinks and yeah, those are the ones that
you're drinking.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You're like, oh, that tastes so good. It's like, oh,
I can't stop. How am I gonna stop dreaming?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
You?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Take a sip of it? And I got a smoked
old fashion that just was so yummy. I don't even
know the bourbon they used, because I said, can I
call the bourbon and she said, you can, but I'm
gonna up charge you. And she said, I think you'd
be hard pressed to tell me you don't like the
bourbon that I'm going to use for it, and I
(15:16):
just said, I'm gonna trust you, because man, that sold me.
How she was so confident the bartender and I said, nope,
do it, do your thing.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And I still don't even know what it was, but
it was really good.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I know it wasn't Woodford reserve because I was staring
at that when she to see if she picked it up.
And that's typically what i'll order with that, I'll get
a Woodford reserve or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But anyway, nice angels, envy something angels exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
I'm guessing your your par martini had a little bit
of elder flower in it, and yeahs probably just super smooth, okantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
All I know is, yeah, my wife's like, try this,
and I was like, oh, lordy, this is amazing.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I was like, nice, you actually did that, old lord
and exactly the same key both times.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm impressed. Oh, Chuck's keeping track.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Actually not David Lee Roff because you hit the same
key times exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, he's got really old droopy vocal cords. Now he's
he's beat those up.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
SoCal cords ain't the only thing.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's not the only droopy thing anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So yeah, the winter's here everybody, in case you were wondering.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So I don't know, if.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
I don't know, if you've ever looked at o Dot's website,
they have ogo dot com and you can look at
cameras all over the state, right, so all the traffic cameras.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So if you go to the the OGO website.
Speaker 8 (16:41):
And you go up to northern Ohio and you look
at like Lakewood, Ohio, and you can see a long
eye ninety everything's green.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's very nice.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
And then you get out a little farther towards like
East Lake, there's a little bit of snow on the ground.
And then you get out toward like like Ashtabula County, and.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's just wide out everywhere.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
It's just so.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
So the east side of Cleveland on out into northeastern Ohio.
They've been measuring the snow in six to twelve inch increments.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
There are parts of.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
The area around Erie that have already had close to
four feet, some places closer to five.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Where was Buffalo because I saw they got pummeled, man
on they run them.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
It's like the south side of Buffalo. Oh crazy, how
much snow fell?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, And there you know again in some areas three
to four feet worth of snow. Parts of Erie County, Pennsylvania,
are likely to pick up another foot or two by tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Crazy.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
It's just it's insane.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
And then what will happen is next week the wind'll
shift a little bit and the lake effect won't be
as heavy in some of those areas, but then it
shifts again on Thursday and comes right back in again,
so they'll have like twenty four hours, eighteen to twenty
four hours to clean up as much as they possibly
can before it all starts over again. So the lake
effect snow up there has been just incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
For us.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
We've had a few flurries, that's about it. We may
still get a couple of flurries tonight. Twenty degrees for
the overnight low wind chills in the potential mid teens
for us, maybe a few places in the single digits.
Thirty five for your day tomorrow, some clouds, then some sun,
and then we get into a little bit of wintery
mix on Wednesday. It's not gonna be much, but a
little bit of a hit or miss rain snow mix.
(18:28):
Some of that's some flurries by Thursday morning. Wednesday, I
have forty Thursday twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
All right, Marshall, thank you. It is thirty one right now.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Do you remember that TV show Under the Dome? No,
not many people watched it. I was one of the
few where the city was under a dome. And I'm
just thinking people in Buffalo. Parlay watched that win. You
know that's an idea of a big.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Feel a big yeah, let's felt a big dome over
my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, it's absolutely nuts when you're if you're watching potball
last night was like crazy, right seeing that. So we're
talking earlier about you know, Biden pardoning Hunter, and the
question came up, would you do it if you were
in that position, if it were your son, your daughter,
your mom, your dad and aunt and uncle, friend even,
would you do it? My friend Steve sent me a
(19:19):
note and he goes, I would absolutely pardon my kid.
I would have come out and said so. And he goes,
I think that's what makes Trump Trump. He comes off believable.
I don't think Biden would have been punished for saying so.
In fact, Americans would.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Have liked him more.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
This is his take, This is Steve's take, and he goes,
did it wrong? But I was one hundred percent what
I would have done. It's what I would have done.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
And Trump even said he would be he would be
inclined to pardon Hunter. Biden, Yeah, which I thought showed
a hell of a lot of class on his part.
But here here's and I told you this all the year.
I could make an exception, a little bit of an exception.
If mister Biden had also said politics shouldn't enter into prosecution.
My son was a vict them here, and I'm also
partnering Donald Trump for any of those convictions in New
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York City because those are politically motivated as well.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
There.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I would have said, Okay, this guy's actually trying to
even and balance things out here.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Hey Elmer, welcome to the show. So where are you
at on this?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I'm gonna check.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
Hey, if he too missed the crime, you've.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Got to do the time.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So do you have kids?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No, I got cats.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
They just like kids.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I just I think it's interesting to set that up
for your answer is to to you know, be able
to ask if you have kids and so. But you're saying, look,
if he did the crime, he's got to do the time.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, Thanks Elmer, appreciate that. Hey, Scott, welcome to the show.
Speaker 11 (20:47):
Hey enjoy the show. And I like to just start
my commentary like I normally always do, say happy birthday
to Corby.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Anyway, I think that any anytime that you know you,
everything's different, you know, It's hard for me to say
what I you know, pardon my son or whatever, because
very few people are in the position that Joe and
Hunter are actually in. The What I take away from
(21:16):
this is the fact that you know the character. If
you think that if you put Donald Trump in the
position of Joe Biden, and you put Don Jr. In
the guilty things that Hunter has done, I don't think
Trump would pardon him because of Trump's character. However, when
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you're the one that has the power of the pardon
and you are more guilty than your son is doing crimes, why.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Not because he's the big guy.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, if they come after the Hunter for things that
are not covered by this pardon, which is why I
was asking, Brad, is this all encompassing here? If they've
got him on anything. Look, he's obviously the mouse in
the maize. Now he's been pardoned for something. He thinks
he's Scott free. Yeah, what if they find something until
thirteen and it's.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Federal too, Yeah, so state they could still find something
or I you know.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
He will throw his old daddy under the bus so quick,
because hey, you know he's old Scott.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Hey, Larry welcome to the show.
So what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Uh, who's my kid? I'd probably pardon him, but I
don't think Biden could pardon Trump for state crimes. And
as far as Chuck's take on it, what if whoever
you was wanting pardon had the goods on you. What
if Hunter went to dad and said, hey, I've got
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paperwork that implicates you.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Yeah, you think that's out.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Of the question.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
No, I don't. I just I'm laughing because it's very possible.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Crackhead.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, of course he threatened his dad if it meant
getting out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It could be Jill could be Jill.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
On his Behalfy's the monster too, That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And I don't I mean, it's gonna probably end up
being his whole family because all of them are going, hey, man,
if we're going down, we're taking you with us, you
know kind of a thing. So he's like, he's gonna
do a sweeping pardon for everybody. He's gonna have some
future pardons put out there.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I would think Kamala for misappropriation of all the money
that came in to allegally support a campaign that never
should have existed in the first place. Billion of Obamas
who have how many houses after? Because he wrote a
book that four people read and and suddenly he's got
mansions all over the place.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They could be far encompassing people.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, that's crazy, Larry, thank you, And yeah, that's that
is an interesting take that Larry had right there going Hey,
you know, he's going, hey, Dad, you're gonna you're gonna
pardon me or guess what I'm a I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Be the whistleblower. Yeah, I'm gonna make sure that you
go down too.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Remember when remember when Biden was on stage and he said,
I told him that they don't give her that prosecutor.
They're not going to see that one billion dollars in
eight It's right there.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
We all saw and heard it.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, this guy used American taxpayer money and the power
of the US government to get the heat off his
kids butt.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I just don't think I could send my son to
uh to prison. I just I don't think I could
do it if I had the power to keep him out.
And then you know, basically go well, yeah, man, this
is whoa. It's complicated, right, so complicated?
Speaker 12 (25:07):
Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I didn't know what you were doing over I thought
you were working on a pardon for Ryan Day.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I think there are a lot of people right now
who are going, man, can he get one? Because there
are a lot of people just really going after him
right now. He is part of our best Buckeye coverage
and I'm bringing him up. Roy Hal Roy, Welcome again
to the Mark Blazer Show. And how are you doing?
How was your Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
How much food did you eat?
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Man, Thanksgiving was absolutely awesome. The hardest thing is not
about how much you eat on Thanksgiving is how long
did you go eating these leftovers to That's the debate. Like,
you know, Thursday is pretty solid, but you know the
food is bet the day after thanks given that day
after that's probably when the food is the best. But
then you got Saturday, Sunday. Here we are on Monday. Yeah, Like,
(26:12):
if you still eat leftovers on Monday, you probably need
to start to schedule that trip to the hospital. I mean,
he probably you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you know,
So I'm trying to figure out exactly what I'm gonna
do because I still got a couple of things left.
But overall was excellent.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, man, that's it, and that's the that is the
debate every year. It is a lifelong debate how long
can you eat those leftovers? Because I'm telling you, Roy,
I work with a guy back in rock radio a
whole long time ago who that guy would take it
to the limit. I mean he was I told him.
I would always tell him, like, man, you are crazy
(26:49):
with how you roll the dice. He wouldn't let anything go.
I mean we're talking, you know, bread when it has
mold on it. He's like, I just tear that part off,
man and keep eating, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He is.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Uh, he's one of those people.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But man, I maintain he had a stomach of steel
because this guy would eat the hottest hot sauce where
I would I would literally like dip my pinky in
it and taste it and the end of my tongue
would be numb for like ten minutes. And this dude
is like dumping it on his food. And it was
crazy the way. But but that's what that kind of
reminds me. I always think of him. Mo is my buddy,
(27:24):
my partner in crying back when I did rock radio.
He was a guy who would eat leftovers. I'm going, man,
the regular mortal man wouldn't even think about nine days
after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You know. He's like, all you gotta do is smell it. Yeah,
you go, that's it right there, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
It's it when the queen comes over here, smell this.
I know it's good. I don't need to take it.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Go.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, here's two things on that. Number One, that the
type of guy you don't want to shake their hands.
You fit bump that guy. You don't shake it, you
don't shake his hand. Yeah, you fit bump that guy.
In number two, you learn at an early age not
the smell thing, like in middle school, high school, you know,
smell fingers and do all. That's disgusting and weird. It's
(28:09):
just weird, man. So like, no, you just use wisdom.
You don't use the smell test to determine whether or
not something is healthy or good to.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right, right, I understand Roy Hall part of our best
Buckeye coverage joining us now, So all right, I didn't
speak to you before the game. We did not exchange
texts or anything to try to get your take on.
So this is fresh for me. I didn't and if
you put anything out there. I did not hear any
of it, but your initial when the last seconds ticked
(28:40):
off on Saturday and you saw that the Buckeyes were
on the losing end of a thirteen to ten score
in our house versus that team up north, what were
your immediate thoughts right there? And just keep in mind
we only have about well, we don't have a little.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
More than an hour. Like when you start talking about.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
This, you know, like there's a couple sides of it
that there's there's you kind of get as a former player,
you get splitting half. There's the how do I feel
as a player, how do I feel as alumni? Then
like how do I feel as a human? Right? And
so listening to coach Day's comments before the game, if
you remember what he said in one of his interviews,
(29:18):
he said, you know, losing three straight to Michigan, it
comes in second only to his father passing away, And
so it kind of lets you know how weighty it
is on him, his family, the people that love him
and people that care about them. And from a human standpoint,
immediately I went to, holy crap, you know, how is
my guy doing? Right? Like you just the weight of
(29:41):
a million people or a million two million plus in
this city comes down on you, especially when you lose
a game in that fashion. Twenty three and a half
point favorite can't become a Big ten champion now because
we came to competing the game, just everything that went
into it, twenty million dollar roster, all the stuff that
we can read on on headlines. But from a human standpoint,
(30:02):
I always take to take time to step back and
think about how those those coaches are feeling, how those
players are feeling. You know, those tiers are real tiers,
That that burden and that that anxiety is real, man,
Like that stress is real, Like it takes years off
your life. And I'm not complaining for him, right, you
make ten million dollars a year, like you're built to
(30:22):
be in that position. They're compensated to be in that position. However,
I started thinking about that, man, like, no one wants
two million people pissed off at you, Like I don't
like when one person's mad to me, let alone two
million that can google your address, right, And so there's
that side. From a football perspective, it was hugely and
largely disappointing to say it, even like that's not even
(30:42):
putting putting in the right perspective, it was the worst
feeling ever to lose in that fashion, to watch and
then to watch what happened post game, it just didn't
represent who we are as buck Eyes. We did have
the opportunity to fight on the field, it didn't happen,
and so it was just an ugly look for us. Man,
here's the bad part about it overall, Blazer, if we
(31:02):
have to sit in this thing for two weeks, I
don't know if you were ever a little kid and
made a mistake and uh maybe like pe Japans and
had to sit in it or got God forbid, you
took a dump on mistake, like you shart it or something,
you know what I'm saying, and you had to sit
in it, and you just had you You're on the
school bus and you're like, man, I got thirty minutes
(31:23):
before I get home. I know they could smell it. Like.
It's just awful, bro, we got to sit at this
We gotta sit in this thing for two or two
and a half weeks and play another football team now.
Was terrible. Man, It's awful, man. So hopefully hopefully we
get out of this thing soon.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Man, so Roy, would you defend the block oh in
the middle of the field the same way? I feel
like based on an answer kind of what you were
talking about earlier, the answer is no, you would have
not done that.
Speaker 10 (31:50):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
So coach Trussell, Uh, you know, it would have been
a couple guys and went, I'll defend that block over.
But when Trust found out who it was, you would
have been sitting right there would have been an immediate
you already know like it would have been an immediate
like Coach Trust used to always say, remember who you are. Now,
we got some cats that would have went out there
and risked it all like cool. And maybe those cats
(32:10):
would have been dudes that maybe it wouldn't have been
suspended because they was the first round draft pick or starter.
To me, Bro, I wouldn't going out there to defend
nothing like Listen, I would take my abuse something. Listen,
we beat I have I got four pair of gold pins.
So my point is we didn't even have to be
in position to defend the middle of the field because
it never happened to us. And that's where that's where
it's your time to fight. You've seen Carmen Ohio, you
(32:32):
go in the locker room. You hear about them planting
the flag after the fact, and you hold on to
that at the following year, man, like it's just one
of those things. And now, with these guys making so
much money and all of that stuff, you risk injury.
What if one of our main stars had a got
hit in the face with a helmet, a broken wrist
or something because they wanted to argue over little flag. Man,
Nobody care about that flag. You can't even plan a
(32:52):
flag on the field, turf field anyway. It's it's just
a thing, man. So it's like, ain't no sense of
turning into a gangster just because you listen to King
Bond and all that crazy music. Listen, he had an
opportunity to fight when he was on the field. They said,
take your lumps, go to the locker room, feel that pain,
and hopefully take it out on the field in the
playoff game.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So after the.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Hit on Will Howard, do you feel like he was
the same after that? I know that's being floated out there,
but you know, I can't help it just being you know,
observing and watching. It's just like what happened, and you
can only kind of look back and think, man, maybe
something was happening there, because everybody kept saying, why are.
Speaker 13 (33:32):
They handing it off over and over and over and
running into the strengths of a otherwise not very strong
Michigan team, Like why are they doing that? There's so
many things that were like a head scratcher, And maybe
I'm looking too much into it, but did you think about.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
That at all? I don't really think so, because that
would be the undermine like our doctors and trainers and
all that. That puts us in a tough situation to
say that the trainers allow one of our best athletes
to go on the field with a concussion knowingly just
to be able to beat that team up norf and
so you open up to a whole another can of
worms if they say he was fine, he was fine.
(34:09):
I think it was just a matter of best on best.
You know, last year they had you know, their cornerback
Will Johnson, who was actually on the field healthy last year,
go up against Marvin Harrison Junior. And we didn't back
down that testing those guys. Now here's the thing. Will
Johnathan had an intercession last year too when we went
best on best. I think they felt like our five
or so was better than their down four or their
(34:31):
four down linemen in their linebacker, and so it just
didn't work out that way. Like whenever coaches have a plan,
the plan is not to get stuff two yards in
the backfield to get hit, you know what I mean
down low. You got to be able to run the
football now, you know, as the guys that's sitting on
the couch like throw the football. Yeah, I want to
see the ball go up to Jeremiah Smith Moore. I
want to see the ball go to a Neca Buca Moore.
But the way that they were playing that shell coverage,
(34:53):
they literally just took away pretty much everybody except Cardnell Tate,
which is why he had six catchers or five catchers
in the first half. You know, so Will didn't look
the exact same in the second half. I'm not sure
why they pushed the ball up the field if he
was a problem throwing the ball players. Honestly, I think
they would have put in Devin or put in uh,
you know, somebody like that, But they didn't. So I'm
(35:13):
assuming we went with the best option. Man, it just
didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Your talks on one hundred thousand dollars, fine, for each
school man.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
I ain't no money, man, That's what the average in
IL do is right now.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
They laughed at that front. Yeah listen.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Or what they said was we like seeing it's good
for ratings showing they all fighting in the middle of field,
like like like crazy people Like one hundred thousand dollars
is no money, bro, Like there's no And when I
say no money, I mean I know it's a lot
to us, but it's no money to the university. They's
twenty million dollars roster, one hundred grand. They're like, oh,
I will knock that out. That's cool. Nobody got suspended,
nobody got hurt. One hundred thousand and they just showing
(35:48):
this over and over and over and over and over.
Here's the thing. The thing is, they gonna show that
fight at middle of field. But every Ohio State Michigan
game moving forward, in those pre game highlights, they're like,
good content. We t of showing David Boston and Charles
Wilson fighting at this game.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Great wet Now, yeah, I'm absolutely in agreement with everything
you just said.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
And then one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
You know what, I would rather see the Big ten
show me what they're gonna do with it for me school?
You know, I think it's so it's a ridiculous penalty.
The school don't care. The school could write that check
with their toenail. One hundred thousands means nothing. But what
is the Big ten gonna do? We're trying to show
you how to act like good people and this is bad.
What is a Big ten gonna do with two hundred
thousand dollars? I would love to see the league justify that. Yeah,
(36:34):
what they're doing with that money?
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Hey, they're gonna They're gonna spend it on leftovers, leftovers
and hospital bills for everybody who five days and the
day leftover?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Hey, uh what? And so you know the whole coach
day thing. And I know this is out there too,
but he wins a Natty. Somehow, some way, the buck
Geyes end up winning a national championship. I feel like
the answer to this because I put you know, I
scribbled down all forgiven question mark, I feel like the
answer still is most of most of Buckeye Nation is like, Nope,
(37:06):
it's not forgiven, because this game is more important than
a national championship to the average Buckeye fan.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Would you agree with that.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's more important than a national championship to the average Buckeye.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Fan, and I disagree.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Do you okay?
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Are you kidding me? I'm just wenna win And if
we win a national championship and lose to Michigan, it
does less in it just a little bit. But listen
if you if you're a sixteen year old and you're like, hey, Dad,
I want a Tesla and he was like, no, son,
I got you an s BO Bady Mercedes. You're not
gonna be like, oh man, It's like no, bro, Like
you didn't get exactly what you wanted, but you got
a national championship. So yeah, it's gonna be bittersweet. We
(37:43):
lost to Michigan, but we also get to host that
Trophia and that's what it's about long term. Now, obviously
our first goal is to beat Michigan, then become Big
Ten champions, then become national champions. We don't beat Michigan,
we can't be Big ten champions, but if we could
be a national champion, are you kidding me? Like, you
still go down as a legend. Now, You're still gonna
(38:04):
be legendary for being wanted for losing against Michigan right now, However,
you're gonna have a ring on your finger and we're
gonna still do a parade and have a ceremony or
celebration in the shoe like you gotta one. At this point,
it's about hope. Like, listen, man, we lost the Michigan.
You either can get over it. You're still gonna watch
the game. And when we win that national championship, don't
turn around so well we didn't beat Michigan. Yeah, letting
(38:25):
people in Michigan say that, all right, we lost the Michigan.
It sucks. Feel that pain. Go sit in the room
in the dark, get angry, whatever you need to do.
But when we get on that field for the playoffs,
if you're a real Buck Eye fan, not an average one.
If you a real one, you're trying to win that name.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So what do you say to people who say coach
Day has gotta go after this one?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
What do you say to them?
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Listen, listen, I'm not gonna talk to because a lot
of those people aren't black people. So like I know
a lot of it's just too many of y'all out here, Blaze,
I am talking to all of them. I'm just talking
to certain certain people. I'm not gonna record at everybody.
You know, I speak for a living. I ain't gonna
get mad at everybody, right, you know. But what I
will stay to people considering firing coach Day for the
(39:10):
offenses of losing four times in Michigan, I would say,
look at this overall record. I would say look at
the fact that, yes, this was a terrible loss. However,
give us an opportunity to make a run in the playoffs,
give us an opportunity continue to build this roster. Can
give us an opportunity what roster twenty billion out? Yeah,
give us an opportunity to continue to build the shift
the culture like college football is moving and let's see
(39:31):
what he can do. Who you gonna bring in, You're
gonna bring in Mike brabl Who you want to bring in,
You want to bring in Eddie. Do you want to
go eight and four in their first year? Or you
want to go a nine to three in their first year?
Beat Michigan and not make the playoffs, or beat Michigan
and lose in the first round. Just because you beat Michigan,
you could be two and ten, beat Michigan. That doesn't
make it a successful season. Michigan's going home. They're happy
(39:53):
they be Ohio State and we get to go on
and try and within the national title. So the whole
fire and Ryan Day thing, like, I'm over that nonsense,
Like who you want to replace him with? Like who
you want to bring in? You're not bringing back trust,
You're not bringing back Urban. We've only had like five
or six coaches here. Who do you want to bring
in just to beat Michigan. This whole thing is bigger
than just beating Michigan. You got sixteen games you gotta
(40:14):
win to win a national title. Like we lost to
Oregon Cool by a point or two or whatever it
may be. We ran through the Big Ten. Everybody was
on board. We lose the Michigan Not everybody want to
jump ship. Listen, man, I'm about people who are loyal.
Loyalty is not loyalty until it's tested, man, and we
getting tested right now. So I'm staying loyal and we're
gonna keep rocking and rolling as long as he's the
(40:36):
head coach. I got his back. And if they decide
to move off other than.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Maybe not all right, I'm gonna get him a sweater
best for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
That's good that's good.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I think that might help psychologically.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Roy gonna need an excel and if it's going to
get over his chest, you might need a two X.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
I wear a large on purpose, I wear a triple medium.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I need my suf tight triple.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
He's got that medium.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
What's this smell like?
Speaker 6 (41:02):
That's terrible? Hey, Hey, you should never have never had
that question, Royal.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
He's part of our best buck eye coverage. We'll be
listening man as the Buckeyes mounted charge here. Hopefully they
can pull off the you know something really really special
here to kind of get that sour taste out of
everybody's mouth. But Roy, you're fantastic as always. Thanks brother
for jumping on with him.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Appreciate you see him.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Man, next time he's on. You need the pointer, sisters.
He's so shy as his introduction music right every.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
One, news, traffic, weather, sports, and the Mark Blazer Show
on six ' ten wtvn.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
SO coming up here just after the top of the hour.
Congressman Jim Jordan will be joining us choot. Meteorologists Marshall
McPeek joining us right now. So, Marshall, it's cold and
it's going to be cold, and it's cold.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
More cold, more cold after that cold told, yeah, it's
midwinter out there at this point, even though we still
have another what's three weeks before winter actually begins. So
we may get a couple of flurries out there tonight,
nothing that's gonna accumulate, but it's cold again. Twenty degrees
overnight tonight, thirty five for your day. Tomorrow, could get
a few flurries in the afternoon, but again.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
They're not gonna mount too much.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Wednesday a chance for some wintery mixed changing into some
rain later in the day. The temperatures will actually rise
during the day. Forty will be the high, happening after sunset,
and then twenty eight on Thursday, with windshills in the teens.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
All right, Marshall, thank you, It is thirty right now.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Marshall's that guy that always you know, when your face
falls off, your your toes are numb, your fingers are jammed.
The guy you know it could always be worse when
he said, well, winter's not for three weeks yet.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Thanks, Yeah, it can always be worse.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's total enough. I guess it could. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
This is a I can't believe it has been since
nineteen ninety six, since this, this whole.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Thing with John B Day Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
But let's bring in Alex Stone ABC News and first
and foremost, Alex, you have a great Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Did you have a great thanksgs?
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Wonderful?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Yeah, yeah? What about you guys?
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I mine was fantastic. Chuck got engaged.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Oh that's a good Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
How about that you gotta do something between the turkey
and the stuffing.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
Or that.
Speaker 9 (43:25):
There's so many jokes I gonna make there. But congratulations,
thank you, yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Thank you? And did I deserve the congratulations? Believe me?
I know, I definitely. I definitely kicked outside of my class.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah. Yeah, I kicked his coverage for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well, and they posted a picture and I knew ahead
of time he and I hope I'm not giving away
too much here, but he had showed me the ring
ahead of time, and I was just like, oh, look
at you, man, it'll be past the gravy and will
you marry me? You know kind of a thing. And
so yeah, the picture was up and and man, it
was like a million congratulations on socials and so on,
(44:03):
and uh, it's a it's a beautiful thing happening. And
you know, we talked about it too. It's just like
you know, uh, it was kind of like the discussion start.
I said, so this is your your second and it's
just like I said, I told him, I go, look
if things went south with me and my wife, my
current wife, I just said, that's it. I'm done and
(44:25):
I'm not getting married again. But you know what, you
never really, I guess can kind of see it coming.
If it's one of those things that just you go, Okay,
I can't deny this kind of a thing.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
You do it, Chuck, I believe in actually proposed not.
Speaker 9 (44:40):
How did you get to this point with her? Yeah,
she was.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Standing outside the house one day and I.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Just no, Actually, I did it in a way that
made perfect sense to me. At the beginning of the meal,
as I was, you know, everybody went around the table
and what they were thankful for, and I opened with
the prayer over the the meal and the things that
I was thankful for, naming her, and I thought that
was the appropriate time to show her how thankful I was.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
That is very nice.
Speaker 9 (45:07):
Were you nervous when you did it or no?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yes, although although there's no reason to expect her to
not say yes, that's that's a big deal, and yeah
it was. I might have shed a tear or two.
It met a great deal, and it took me a
long time to get it right, but I finally did congratulation.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Cool. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
We got to figure out who's going to play him
and then her in the lifetime version of the you
know the movie when it comes out.
Speaker 7 (45:38):
When they filmed it in Canada with the perfect little
old Christmas town there.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Who am I going to be?
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Like?
Speaker 4 (45:45):
What's his name? Will Sasso?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Chuck's looking at me like, dude, don't say that about like,
don't bring up lifetime?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Man? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
So I think if my math there's me correct, Alex
John Biday Ramsey would be twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
If she were still with us.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
She'd be thirty four. Thirty four, twenty eight years ago,
she'd be thirty four years old.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Thirty four, which is crazy to think about that, but
you know, it doesn't seem like it has been that long.
Somebody who obviously lived right through it, and you know,
I was a young adult at that time, and and
I when I think of it, I feel like it
just not that much time has gone by. This is
one of those things that I am fascinated by again
because clearly nobody has been you know, charged or whatever
(46:34):
officially or what have you.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
But tell me what is the latest on this?
Speaker 7 (46:38):
Yeah, so kind of like the Menendez Brothers, there is
this whole new interest in it because of a Netflix
documentary and a whole new generation that didn't It wasn't
alive in nineteen ninety six and they're now they're into
it and TikTok, and so there is this renewed push
on on Boulder police to figure it out because of
the new Netflix documentary. But we've got sources who are
telling us in progress he is being made once again
(47:00):
in this case, even though it's twenty eight years old
and it was Christmas night nineteen ninety six, and the
sources are saying that it's still not clear. They don't
know if they've got enough evidence that will ever pinpoint
a killer, but it would likely be DNA DNA and
who has found at the crime scene, a white male
that they have never been able to figure out whose
(47:21):
DNA that was, but they are trying, and in the
last couple of years now a new team has come
together from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and Boulder Police
to take a new look at the evidence and utilizing genealogy.
You know what we've seen with the BTK killer and
the Golden State killer and the University of Idaho killings
where they've gone and used familial DNA and figured out
(47:43):
who the killer was. That they want to do that
and maybe they're going to be able to do it.
Last week, the current Boulder Police chief said, our.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Agency is committed to doing everything we can to bring
justice to John Benay and hold her killer responsible.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
And John and Patsy Ramsey, the parents were cleared years ago,
with police saying they were not the killers.
Speaker 9 (48:00):
Nobody knows who really was.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
But the case is being they confirm actively investigated again
and that they are making progress, and the chief center,
you're hopeful.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
That the renewed public attention will generate more tips.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
So it really is coming down to this DNA at
the crime scene, in genealogy, if the killer is even
still alive, there's a good chance, almost thirty years later,
that the killer is long gone. If they can make
a match the DNA is degraded, it is only a
tiny amount, not enough potentially to get a large large
enough sample to put it into the DNA databases. But
(48:33):
they're working on it right now.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
So the Netflix documentary is that's the thing that's kind
of resurrected this, right.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
Yeah, I mean the last couple of years have been
working with this cold case team to figure it out.
But there is definitely new pressure. The chief had to
come out earlier than they do an annual update in Boulder.
They came out about a month early because of the
Netflix documentary. A lot of pressure on Boulder Police to
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, very interesting and yeah, we'll be following along for sure.
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Alex, thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
You got it later, guys, thank you sir.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
This could become a whole new direction for Netflix. I mean,
two stories like this that they both take off. They
could have like a Netflix Cyber Crime division or whatever. Yeah,
that just does documentaries like this trying to you know,
right wrongs in the past or whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah. Absolutely,
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