The horrible details of the Titan sub are becoming clearer

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Episode Transcript

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So as we were coming on theair today, just before we were coming
on, it was the statement releasedfrom ocean Gate, which is the company
that owns the submersible titan the onethat was down trying to view the Titanic.
And I'm sure by now you've heardthe five passengers on board are deceased.

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They are saying they are deceased.At this point, it was a
catastrophic implosion. And Alex Stone fromABC News is joining us. Now this
is not the ending clearly that anybodywanted, Alex, but a lot of
us were, you know, wewere doing the countdown on the oxygen and
all of these things. But turnsout, I guess they're saying that on

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Sunday was when this happened. Iguess right, yeah, that's what they
believe. And I think this wasthe most plausible scenario in this whole thing.
From the beginning. You know,there were a lot of what if.
What if they are on the bottomand breathing, and well, now
oxygen would be out, and youknow, what if the oxygen lasted a
little bit longer than then was planned, or what if they were bobbing on
the ocean surface. It was alot of things that were probably not going

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on where they lost communication and theywere still alive, and that they you
know, all of these things.It would have had to be a perfect
scenario. So for the implosion,because there had been no signs of them
that you know, they thought withthe banging noises the last couple of days
and maybe that was them. Turnedout that the audio experts analyzed it and

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knew even before this that it wasnot that that it didn't come from them.
But today the rovers on the seafloorthirteen thousand feet down that they found
the debris clearly from titan They sayit clearly imploded pieces of the pressure chamber,
the nose cone, the landing skidsfrom the bottom of it, about

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sixteen hundred feet away from the bowof Titanic, and the rear admiral sand.
Today the debris is consistent with thecatastrophic loss of the pressure chamber.
Upon this determination, we immediately notifiedthe found life and they likely died very
quickly in that implosion on Sunday.They don't think it eve imploded after that

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because they had censors in the waterand that they didn't pick up anything they
would have heard it like an explosion, but being an implosion that they would
have picked it up. They thinkthat this is why they lost comms on
Sunday and then they hadn't been heardfrom since it again would be the most
likely scenario. And when they wentdown, these rovers quickly saw when the

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French rover got in and another roverthat what they feared that they were going
to find. And then one ofthose experts on underwater exploration, Paul Hankin
he's helping out the coast Guard,he said, the initial thing we found
was he knows cone, which wasoutside of the pressure hull. You then
found a large degree field and theysay already that the search and rescue teams

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are that had gotten on site,that they are cleaning up their stuff.
In the next twenty four hours they'llall be going home, that they're going
to be getting out of there.The company Ocean gave their website immediately went
down today. We don't know ifit was taken offline or something else happened,
but it seems like the company tookdown their website and in their statements
saying they do believe that all fiveare gone, and it puts an end

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to what's been going on all week. This is I think something that they're
not going to I would imagine basedon what we're kind of learning now Alex,
that they're not going to find anyof the five people that were on
board parts of I mean anything withregard to them. Correct, highly unlikely
that they're going to find any humanremains. Maybe they will, but but

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very unlikely. Based on the catastrophicnature of what went on and that the
whole craft blew apart, that probablynot and then bringing pieces up. It's
not really clear if they're going totry to do that. That one of
the rovers, the French rover,has arms on it that it can actually
reach out and grab things. Butare they going to do that, They're

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not real clear on. They mayjust they're they're mapping it out right now,
but then the rovers may be done. They may just leave it down
there more than anything, kind ofout of just let them rest. Were
they just like everybody who was onboard Titanic, that that is their their
resting place. But they may forinvestigative reasons bring some of it up,

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but they don't know yet. Thisis pretty incredible. Um, some stuff
we were just reading right before wewere going on the air, Alex and
Josh was giving me some of itliterally as my intro was starting for the
hour for the segment, and it'sit's fascinating listen to this, So Alex,
I'm there's a Twitter out basically showinga computer animation of how it would

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have exactly happened and what happened whenyou're that deep and that much psi and
an instantaneous collapse. It says theinstant collapse of the pressure of the hull
would immediately heat the air in thesub to around the surface of the Sun's
temperature, as a wall of metaland seawater smashed one end of one end

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of the sub in less than asecond. So I guess that sudden collapse
of pressure causes a huge amount ofheat to happen, and in all intents
and purposes, it's an implosion thatresults in an explosion, right, and
you know, and not to thinkabout it, but but you gotta wonder,

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did they hear like creaking noises beforehand? We were talking about that,
Alex, I know, you know, or were they just kind of moving
along looking at Titanic and then boomit was over? Or was it like,
oh, were you here like youknow, dinging, like you know,
metal making noises or it's I mean, it's a terrible thought no matter
what. But there are a lot. I mean, we heard from James

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Cameron, the you know who madeTitanic today and he's done like thirty trips
down to Titanic, where he saidthat there had long been worries about titan
and the technology that they were usingand corners that were cut and warning signs
that were out there, that thediving community that does deep sea expliration like

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this that they had been very worriedabout it and that it was not safe
to bring passengers on board. Soyou know, there's gonna be a lot
of questions in that way. Andthen using carbon fiber and instead of other
materials, and then could the carbonfiber rip and maybe that is what went
on here. That was the warningfrom some of the employees it Ocean Gage
that they worried that after repeated tripsat a wood rip and they would have

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no idea and you get a tinylittle rip in there and then you get
the pressure and it it blows rightopen. So that there will be a
lot learned in this. I thinkthere are also a lot in the exploration
community that are saying not necessarily Itold you so, but they had reasons
why they were worried, and thatnow then that's all coming to bear.
I think some of the family,if not all, the family of the

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five that have perished here, Alexwould probably take solace in the fact that
is now being reported it was prettymuch instantaneous that they were there than they
weren't, as opposed to just fadingover ninety six hours as your oxygen anything
like that. Yeah, right over, Yeah, good lord, And I'm
sure there's going to be a lotmore things that come out as they discover

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the things that are left to discoverabout this over you know, the next
twenty four or forty eight hours orhowever long they continue to find this stuff
out. But Alex Stone ABC Newsfor the very latest on this. We
appreciate your reporting, man, appreciateit. You got it. Thanks,
guys, all right, we'll seeyou. Yeah, man, that is
absolutely spine tingling the way you werejust reading that, and that it heats

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basically the heir to the surface thetemperature of the surface of the sun in
there, which would tell you theywere gone like that, man, think
about it. So even they mayhave been vaporized and while they're being crushed
again. Horrific, right, Butif you're that, if you're a member

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of these families of friends or someonewho loved and cared about any one of
these people, it has to bejust a tiny, tiny bit of comfort
to know there was no pain,there was no terror, right, there
was no suffering. It was they'realive. They're dead in a blink of

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an eye. There wasn't even timefor you, probably the nerves to get
to their brain to process what washappening, right, And that's sure as
hell beats a buried, alive,slow death suffocating on the bottom of the
ocean and pitch black right right,you know, And so as horrific as
it is, man, I thinkI think as soon as we woke up

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this morning and they talked about adebris field, I was like, okay,
they imploded. What's interesting is Alexreferencing the rovers that were on the
floor of the ocean at that point, and I'm saying to myself, how
is it that they've discovered this stuffand now all of a sudden we have
stuff down there sorting through everything alreadythey made it like we're not going to

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have any equipment that can get anywherenear any of that to give us any
kind of a report or any information. Was that it because I was under
the impression they were saying, there'snothing that exists to extract them from the
bottom of the ocean. Now,like, yeah, they right, in
other words, those rovers, Yeah, but they didn't even a reference that

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those rovers were in place or aboutto be in place to try to do
investigative searching and so on, whichclearly they're already there and doing that.
And yeah, I think to yourpoint, with the debris field being reported,
maybe that was information coming from theserovers that they were able to collect
the right however, and like Iwas saying, you know, when Stasia

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was here, James Cameron is theonly human being he's ever made it to
the well. He was the first. I don't know if he's the only
at this point. He was thefirst person to ever make it to the
bottom of the Mariana Trench the Titanicstwo and a half miles down. He
went six point eight miles down tothe lowest known point on planet Earth,

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some thirty seven thousand feet below thesurface. But he had that it like
it was that the whole was sothick. It was so this thing costs
so much money, was using NASAlike military grade a technology and equipment and
medals and things like that, andhe could only fit himself in there in

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a tight little space. Even ifyou had that and sent it down,
what are you going to do?He can't open it. You know,
he's sealed in two. It's notlike he's got robotic arms to grab him
and carry him. You know,it just un't worked that way. My
guess is somebody like him doing somethinglike that was in a submarine, for
all lack of a better term,submersible that could withstand double the depth that

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he most likely triple the death,you know what I mean? Yes,
Like in other words, it wasoverkill what it could withstand for obviously,
because he knew it's unchartered. He'drather be overcautious than undercautious. Yeah,
you don't want to get down thereand be like, oh my god,
this thing's bending. What's going on? I thought, you know what I
mean, Like, you want toyou want to be over overkill if you

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will, you know. So.So that is the very latest on that,
and I'm sure more information will becomeavailable as it does. Of course,
we'll we'll bring you right up tospeed on that. Hey, on
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