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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alec Stone. ABC News is joining us right now, Go Yankees.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I don't understand why my son's into the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't get Oh yeah, I
saw that post.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I was like, why did why did you just yell
go yank Oh okay, I got it now.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, he's standing in front of the TV with his Yankee.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Garbon Oh and he was having the time of his
life last night. I was like, what it's with you Yankees?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
He had his Aaron Judge Garbond. I think, yeah he did. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, if there's a guy to root for, that guy
is a he's a machine. Aaron Judge ish, Well, he's
not human, it's so it seems. And boy does that
guy deliver in the big moments.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It seems like too three run Homer last night.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's crazy, right, this guy's got ice in his veins.
It's nuts. It's nuts, man, That's why he makes all
that money.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I mean, yeah, he signed for it's some crazy amount, right, Yeah.
I think he's the first guy to sign for two
billion dollars. Oh no, oh wait, not quite that much,
but still, yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Like sounds like an Ohio State in IL contract I
think shoe hey Otani is seven hundred million, so he's
got to be above that, right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
He's seven hundred and one million.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was an extra dollar that they did it all
got they got.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I gotta make a little more than the highest paid person,
what have you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So but uh yeah, I haven't followed, you know, since
my reds got eliminated like lickety split, like two games.
I was like, oh jeez, you guys, can you make
us look more stupid in Ohio?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Like enough with that? And they can hang with anybody
when they're firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The problem is is you don't know which cylinders are
going to fire each night, so dang.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Gaune it anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So yeah, those Palisades fire, I mean, we know you
you covered that, and unfortunately we're had a front row
seat for that living in that area and so on, Alex.
So they they gotta they got somebody with this, right
they do.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Nine months later now there have been all kinds of
theories that the Palisades fire was one of the two
big ones. There was the eating fire out in Alstina,
and there was a Palisades fire in like the Malibu
Palisades area, and I mean you remember it was the
one where huge homes were burning. Twelve people died, a
lot of people were injured, thousands of homes were destroyed,
and there have long been these theories that it broke
(02:17):
out as a result of another wildfire that had been
started on New Year's Day, really New Year's Eve, but
right after midnight on New Year's Day by kids playing
with fireworks, And the ATF has been doing this nine
month long investigation, really high tech that they say it
was a rekindle from a week earlier of where you know,
(02:39):
the fire was down in the roots and under the ground,
and when the wind ninety mile an hour winds came in,
just incredible winds, that it all took off again. But
they say, yeah, it was a rekindle, but it was
not kids playing with fireworks. It was a twenty nine
year old guy who was seemingly fascinated by fire and
was angry. And a little while ago they made this announcement.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We are announcing the rest of twenty nine year old
Jonathan render Necked for igniting a fire that ultimately burned
down the Palisades earlier this year, killing twelve people. Destroying
more than sixty eight hundred structures, both homes and businesses,
and damaging over one thousand more buildings.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So render Neck is under arrest in Florida. That he
had since moved to the Orlando area. They don't think
he was running away, but that he had made the move.
He was allegedly an uber driver on New Year's who
dropped off some passengers in the middle of the night,
right after midnight into New Year's Day, and they say
that that he seemed really agitated and that something wasn't right.
They say he went to an overlook and listened to
(03:39):
a song which has a music video about burning a
community and running away from fire, and they say he
made a chat GPT image of people on AI image
people running away from flames in a forest, and they
showed that to us today, this image that he allegedly created,
and they believe at that point he started the fire
and then watched and recorded the LA Fire Department coming
(04:00):
in with all the engines and the lights and everything
and putting out that fire. And that's something that firebugs
arsonists often do to watch their work, to watch the excitement.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
But they said today the allegations in the affidavit are
supported by digital evidence, including the defendant's chat ChiPT prompt
of a dystopian painting showing in part a burning forest
and a crowd fleeing from it.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So the ATF says they looked at thirteen thousand pieces
of evidence, They interviewed people around the world, They have DNA,
they have other evidence. Actually recreated everything in a lab
and went back out there on the same type of
moon night so they could see like on the lunar
cycle of what it would look like lighting wise and
everything to recreate it. And they're pretty sure. They say
that they are certain that this twenty nine year old
(04:46):
guy that he was doing this and apparently obsessed with
fire and started that earlier fire that then seven days
later in the sant Ana winds whipped up again and
then went through and killed all those ps.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'll be alex, I'll be I'll be interested to hear
how much total as far as damage.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh my gosh, it's going to be astronomical.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Twenty five billion something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That wire. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh, are we gonna hear anything about him being on
the FBI's radar for crazy stuff?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Nothing that we know of yet. In court today, in
Florida where there was just a real quick hearing and
he'll be back in court tomorrow. The judge rule that
he is not mentally insane, that he can move forward
in the court process. So it doesn't look like it's
going to be mental health at least in a sense
of not being able to go through court. But other
than that, we don't know a ton about him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Plus you said twelve people died as.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
A result, died. Yes, this fire came ripping through, they
couldn't get out.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
This guy waved by by the light of day. I mean,
I can't imagine he's going to see any light of day.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I mean right now. The one charge is destruction
of a building or something like that, and it brings
it max of twenty years. But we asked the US
attorney today when we're in the room, so are you
going to add more charges? And he says, when they
indict them, as you have to do in every federal case,
a grand jury has got to indict to move forward.
That there will be more charges probably at it. It
could be murder, it could be any number of things. Yeah,
(06:09):
and it probably will be. That they've got them on this,
they can hold him on this, but probably more charges
are going to be coming.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Then when you go with you know, the one building
which is just getting this thing off the ground, you
know the amount of destruction, the monetary value of placed
with it is. I believe that'll be you know, something
motivational there as far as you know where they'll go
with how they're going to end up, you know, charge
what they'll charge this guy with?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So right, yeah, and I mean right now it's federals,
so it's the Trump administration charging them. It'll probably go
local as well, but I don't think they're going to
hold back. So they think that they can get the charges,
they will definitely do it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh yeah, they'll definitely do that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
As you know, this administration is really trying to get
rid of lawlessness as much as they can, you know whatever.
But this is definitely I think checks that box. There's
no question about that. But I like Stone on ABC
News out of Los Angeles and Alex thanks for the
latest Sun then you got it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
See you man,
Alec Stone. ABC News is joining us right now, Go Yankees.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I don't understand why my son's into the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't get Oh yeah, I
saw that post.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I was like, why did why did you just yell
go yank Oh okay, I got it now.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, he's standing in front of the TV with his Yankee.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Garbon Oh and he was having the time of his
life last night. I was like, what it's with you Yankees?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
He had his Aaron Judge Garbond. I think, yeah he did. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, if there's a guy to root for, that guy
is a he's a machine. Aaron Judge ish, Well, he's
not human, it's so it seems. And boy does that
guy deliver in the big moments.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It seems like too three run Homer last night.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's crazy, right, this guy's got ice in his veins.
It's nuts. It's nuts, man, That's why he makes all
that money.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I mean, yeah, he signed for it's some crazy amount, right, Yeah.
I think he's the first guy to sign for two
billion dollars. Oh no, oh wait, not quite that much,
but still, yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Like sounds like an Ohio State in IL contract I
think shoe hey Otani is seven hundred million, so he's
got to be above that, right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
He's seven hundred and one million.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was an extra dollar that they did it all
got they got.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I gotta make a little more than the highest paid person,
what have you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So but uh yeah, I haven't followed, you know, since
my reds got eliminated like lickety split, like two games.
I was like, oh jeez, you guys, can you make
us look more stupid in Ohio?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Like enough with that? And they can hang with anybody
when they're firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The problem is is you don't know which cylinders are
going to fire each night, so dang.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Gaune it anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So yeah, those Palisades fire, I mean, we know you
you covered that, and unfortunately we're had a front row
seat for that living in that area and so on, Alex.
So they they gotta they got somebody with this, right
they do.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Nine months later now there have been all kinds of
theories that the Palisades fire was one of the two
big ones. There was the eating fire out in Alstina,
and there was a Palisades fire in like the Malibu
Palisades area, and I mean you remember it was the
one where huge homes were burning. Twelve people died, a
lot of people were injured, thousands of homes were destroyed,
and there have long been these theories that it broke
(02:17):
out as a result of another wildfire that had been
started on New Year's Day, really New Year's Eve, but
right after midnight on New Year's Day by kids playing
with fireworks, And the ATF has been doing this nine
month long investigation, really high tech that they say it
was a rekindle from a week earlier of where you know,
(02:39):
the fire was down in the roots and under the ground,
and when the wind ninety mile an hour winds came in,
just incredible winds, that it all took off again. But
they say, yeah, it was a rekindle, but it was
not kids playing with fireworks. It was a twenty nine
year old guy who was seemingly fascinated by fire and
was angry. And a little while ago they made this announcement.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We are announcing the rest of twenty nine year old
Jonathan render Necked for igniting a fire that ultimately burned
down the Palisades earlier this year, killing twelve people. Destroying
more than sixty eight hundred structures, both homes and businesses,
and damaging over one thousand more buildings.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So render Neck is under arrest in Florida. That he
had since moved to the Orlando area. They don't think
he was running away, but that he had made the move.
He was allegedly an uber driver on New Year's who
dropped off some passengers in the middle of the night,
right after midnight into New Year's Day, and they say
that that he seemed really agitated and that something wasn't right.
They say he went to an overlook and listened to
(03:39):
a song which has a music video about burning a
community and running away from fire, and they say he
made a chat GPT image of people on AI image
people running away from flames in a forest, and they
showed that to us today, this image that he allegedly created,
and they believe at that point he started the fire
and then watched and recorded the LA Fire Department coming
(04:00):
in with all the engines and the lights and everything
and putting out that fire. And that's something that firebugs
arsonists often do to watch their work, to watch the excitement.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
But they said today the allegations in the affidavit are
supported by digital evidence, including the defendant's chat ChiPT prompt
of a dystopian painting showing in part a burning forest
and a crowd fleeing from it.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So the ATF says they looked at thirteen thousand pieces
of evidence, They interviewed people around the world, They have DNA,
they have other evidence. Actually recreated everything in a lab
and went back out there on the same type of
moon night so they could see like on the lunar
cycle of what it would look like lighting wise and
everything to recreate it. And they're pretty sure. They say
that they are certain that this twenty nine year old
(04:46):
guy that he was doing this and apparently obsessed with
fire and started that earlier fire that then seven days
later in the sant Ana winds whipped up again and
then went through and killed all those ps.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'll be alex, I'll be I'll be interested to hear
how much total as far as damage.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh my gosh, it's going to be astronomical.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Twenty five billion something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That wire. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh, are we gonna hear anything about him being on
the FBI's radar for crazy stuff?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Nothing that we know of yet. In court today, in
Florida where there was just a real quick hearing and
he'll be back in court tomorrow. The judge rule that
he is not mentally insane, that he can move forward
in the court process. So it doesn't look like it's
going to be mental health at least in a sense
of not being able to go through court. But other
than that, we don't know a ton about him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Plus you said twelve people died as.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
A result, died. Yes, this fire came ripping through, they
couldn't get out.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
This guy waved by by the light of day. I mean,
I can't imagine he's going to see any light of day.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I mean right now. The one charge is destruction
of a building or something like that, and it brings
it max of twenty years. But we asked the US
attorney today when we're in the room, so are you
going to add more charges? And he says, when they
indict them, as you have to do in every federal case,
a grand jury has got to indict to move forward.
That there will be more charges probably at it. It
could be murder, it could be any number of things. Yeah,
(06:09):
and it probably will be. That they've got them on this,
they can hold him on this, but probably more charges
are going to be coming.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Then when you go with you know, the one building
which is just getting this thing off the ground, you
know the amount of destruction, the monetary value of placed
with it is. I believe that'll be you know, something
motivational there as far as you know where they'll go
with how they're going to end up, you know, charge
what they'll charge this guy with?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So right, yeah, and I mean right now it's federals,
so it's the Trump administration charging them. It'll probably go
local as well, but I don't think they're going to
hold back. So they think that they can get the charges,
they will definitely do it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh yeah, they'll definitely do that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
As you know, this administration is really trying to get
rid of lawlessness as much as they can, you know whatever.
But this is definitely I think checks that box. There's
no question about that. But I like Stone on ABC
News out of Los Angeles and Alex thanks for the
latest Sun then you got it.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
See you man,
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