Colin Cowherd’s Fantasy Football Over/Under Picks + The 10 Biggest Questions for Week 12 (Ep. 1461)

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Football my playbook app debro. On the Thursday show, fitz
Ericson and I were talking a bit about just kind
of the state of our teams at this point in
the season as we enter week twelve. How are your
teams across the board looking so pretty good?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Pretty good, guys. I got a few first place teams,
I got a few top three teams looking at first
round buys, a bunch of the Dynasty squads, you know,
our own content league. I'm currently retooling and rebuilding to
work in some trades. You can never have too much
JJ McCarthy exposure, So I honestly can't be mad. It's

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a good time of year.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I was gonna say, you're saying you're having a pretty
good season. You are in last place in that Dynasty league,
just to point out, and fits is in is in tenth, So.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm in third.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I okay, sorry, you're not in first.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, I am not in first. Oh okay, I am
in third.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Just got to make the playoffs unlike you, guys. Before
we jump into this week's questions, let's check in with
Colin Coward and his over under picks for the Fantasy
over Under Challenge. Time now for the Week twelve Over
Under Challenge. As always, this segment is presented by DraftKings
and I'm joined by Colin Coward to talk through some

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of our favorite player picks for this week's slate. We'll
jump right in, but first I want to remind everyone
listening that you can play along with our over Under
challenge and try to not only beat Colin, but win
some cool prizes as well by heading to fantasypros dot
com Slash Challenge. All right, let's start with the quarterbacks,
and we'll start at the very top with Patrick Mahomes
at Carolina. He's QB fourteen on DraftKings and Fantasy scoring

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the season sixteen point eight fantasy points per game, just
one top five performance, though that was back in Week
nine against the Bucks, so it hasn't been a ton
of highs in this season for Mahomes. More of a
high floor than a high ceiling in terms of fantasy scoring.
Going up against his Panthers pass defense allowing seven point
six yards per attempt that's tied for twenty fifth in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
What do you expect that of Mahomes this week? Colin?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, for the first time in a long time, double
digit favorites this year, not only winning, they're covering the spread.
Awful loss. Kansas City. I like them here now Bryce
Young has played pretty well. That tells me Carolina keeps
it close for a while. I think that's actually good
for Mahomes. You know, it's gonna be an interesting stretch

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for the Chiefs. Denver's better than we thought, and Hardball's
got the Chargers really rolling, so they don't have time
to waste here. Those teams are coming hard, and so
I think Kansas City will you know, steal sharp and steal.
The Buffalo loss, I think is a reminder how difficult
it's going to be in the playoffs and an increasingly

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good division. I think the Chiefs will play well bounce
back in a competitive, high scoring game, But I'll take
the Chiefs in Mahome playing well offensively.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Is there anything that you've seen from Mahomes just in
terms of like the fantasy scoring is down, even though
they're obviously winning games. He's still you know, you know,
as good a quarterback as you can be, but the
fantasy scoring hasn't been there.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Is it just the lack of the weapons or is
there anything else?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Well, it's the third year in a row that they're
trying to figure out what the receiving corps is. It's
been it's the only unit on their team that's in
flux for the third year in a row. Now they
add a rookie Worthy, who still I don't think is consistent.
You know, they have Watson, Noah Gray's played pretty well
the backup tight end, but I you know, it's I

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think it's a This is the unit that has They've
had to sacrifice dude to Mahomes' contract and Chris Jones' contract,
and Travis Kelsey's contract and Joe Tooney's contract. So I think,
you know, this is an imperfect team, and you know,
the receiving unit is again for the third year in
a row, in flux.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Brock Perty is the other quarterback we've got in the
challenge this week. He's at the Packers QB six nineteen
and a half Fantasy points per game on DraftKings this season.
He's got three top five weeks five top ten weeks
this season, so he has some has had some pretty
good games here for fantasy, going up against his Packers
pass defense seven point two yards per attempt that's tied
for eighteenth in the NFL allowed.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I've seen you Jennings is playing really well. Still have
devastimo there. What do you expect from party?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
The wise guys like the Niners this weekend. They've been
kind of an unlucky team. They've had bizarrely bad special teams.
But if you really look at the numbers, as you know,
brock Perty's been fine, their defense isn't as good. If
Bosa is not on the field, It's not the same
defensive unit. They've run through defensive coordinators, you know the
Demico Ryans and to Robert Sala, you know Steve Wilkes.

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Now they've got another. So I don't think it's the
same team. And that actually is an advantage because the
forty nine ers they're in close, competitive games. That tells
me they're throwing the ball in the fourth quarter. I
like brock Perty.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
A couple of running backs here.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
James Connor at Seattle RB seventeen on DraftKings this season,
just over twelve and a half Fantasy points per game.
In eight out of his ten weeks this season, he
has finished with eleven point nine points or more so, again,
really high floor for him. Now going up against the Seahawks,
rush defense four point eight yards per carry. That's tied
for fourth worst in the NFL. Do you think James
Connor has a big day this week?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, I like Arizona. I think they have a real identity.
I don't think Seattle does. Connor is a violent, explosive runner.
I think when Arizona Dome teams go up to Seattle,
my take is they want to shorten the game. Go up,
be physical, get in a plane and fly home. The
cyclone bomb will be out of the Northwest by then.

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But my feeling is Arizona has an offensive identity. They'll
keep it on the ground. It'll be a fairly low
scoring game. Situational football, circumstantial football will matter. I like
Connor this week, and who I think is on a
short list? You know who he is. You don't think
he's ignored, But I think the national media just doesn't

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watch Arizona enough. I think he's an I think he's
a star. I think he's one of the most difficult,
game changing backs in the league.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Really fun to watch, and perpetually under ranked. Every August
feels like he just is a screaming value in fantasy
drafts because oh.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
He's getting older.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh they drafted Trey Ben said, Oh, he's you know,
maybe not the fast running back that.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, he's just good and produces every year. So I
totally agree.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I think he's fantastic and like I said, super fun
to watch another running back we have in the challenge.
Javonte Williams at the Raiders RB thirty six on draftings.
This season been really like, you know, back and forth
just in terms of who the lead in this backfield is.
I mean, you know, last week we saw Adric estimate
the rookie he got the bulk of the workload or
me two weeks ago. Then last week he was kind
of back to Javante again going up against his Vegas

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rush defense four point four yards per carry. Do you
think it's another Javante Williams week? And do you think
this running game can be good against the Raiders?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, the Raiders play hard, they're very limited, Gardner minshew
too many turnovers. I like Denver to win this game.
You know, it's a division rivalry, so it'll probably be close.
And again I think Sean Payton's done a good job
of the balancing act, not relying on bow Nicks yet
trusting Bonnicks I still don't think. I like Courtland Sutton

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more than most, but I think a lot of their
young receivers are inconsistent. Their tight ends are solid, not spectacular.
So my guess is, when you go on the road
and you have a young quarterback, I mean, wouldn't your
game plan be, you know, like bow Knicks last week
at home, really aggressive game plan. But when you go
on the road division game, you don't want to put

(08:23):
as much. You don't hear as well. The Raiders play
really hard, so I think they'll lean in on their
running game.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, what a game for bo Nix just by the
way last week, four touchdowns first time in his career.
Band your passing yards, first time it's career. He's been
awesome for fantasy too. Not on this week's challenge though.
Justin Jefferson is our wide receiver at the Bears wide
receiver six a little over twelve fantasy points per game
on DraftKings this season. It's a Bears defense that definitely
has talent and has played really well at times. Obviously,

(08:51):
Justin Jefferson is, you know, as good as it gets
at the position.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Do you think he'll have a big week.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
I'm not sure. So I believe if you look at
Brian floh as the defensive coordinator for the Vikings, historically
he eats up turnover prone quarterbacks or young quarterbacks. So
here's what I think Minnesota's game plan is. On the road,
cold weather play conservative. Our defense will confuse Caleb Williams

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and force him into mistakes. So I don't think it's
going to be a high flying Minnesota offense this weekend.
I think they'll win ugly. I think they'll rely on
their run game and their defense, so I don't think
he's gonna pop.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
We've got a tight end on the challenge this week.
Travis Kelcey obviously also going up against the Panthers. We
already talked to me about Mahomes and how you like
the Chiefs to bounce back coming back from that loss.
You know, about as easy of a matchup as you're
going to get against the Panthers. Kelsey's tight end eleven
this season, a little over six fantasy points per game
on DraftKings. Obviously the least productive year that he's had
and is certainly a very long time. You know, got

(09:53):
to get the sense they're saving him for January, right
been Boom or bus. He does have three top five
weeks and then also five weeks of under four points
in fantasy scorings. Definitely a roller coaster season for him.
Do you think, obviously you like kind of Mahomes and
the Chiefs to bounce back. You think it'll be through
Kelsey or will it be through the possible return of
Isaiah Pacheco or Kareem Hunt or some of these other pieces.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, I think I agree with your first statement. I
think they're saving Kelsey. I think Denver and the Chargers
are equipped to really match up with Kansas City. Noah
Gray is growing into a much more comfortable target for
Patrick Mahomes so and I think Isaiah Pacheco will get
some run. And again they're still trying to figure out

(10:35):
exactly Xavier Worthy's role. He's clearly a gadget guy. He's explosive.
So I think you have to almost guess, you know,
when I trust Travis Kelsey playoff game, Monday night game,
big TV spot, big rivalry game. This is not one
of those.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, I've been saying it on the shows. I mean
I was fading him on Draft Day. Just this isn't
a team that's playing for January. They're playing for February, right,
they have one thing on their mind and they want
to make sure they get there as healthy as they can. Remember,
everybody to head to fantasypros dot Com slash challenge to
play along all season long. Colin, thanks for joining us,
all right, thanks, all right. Let's jump into the slaty

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games here for week twelve. A bunch of teams on by,
so if you were matchups here than usual. Let's start
with Vikings at Bears Signs of Life from Chicago kind
of in week eleven.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Fits.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
What did we learn about the Bears for fantasy purposes
in their first game post Shane Waldron, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Would not have big expectations for this passing game going forward.
They really sort of put the training wheels back on
Caleb Williams. It was just to us scale down passing game,
nothing downfield at all. Just have Caleb get the ball
out of his hands quickly, you know. To be honest,
it looked a lot like the Luke Getsy offense when
he was the Bears offensive coordinator. Just like really quick throws,

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everything close to the line of scrimmage, nothing downfield at Also,
it made the numbers look better for Caleb Williams. He
completed more than seventy percent of his throws in that game.
But man, there was just it was the classic horizontal
passing attack, equal effort with the wide receivers all of

(12:24):
Dj Moore, Keenan Allen, and Romo Dunes. They had between
seven and ten targets. Caleb did run more aggressively. They
had some designed runs in there. Seven excuse me, nine
carries for seventy yards, So maybe he's going to offer
a little more rushing value going forward, but just I
don't know, Like it was not exactly a breakout game

(12:45):
for the Chicago passing attack.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
What did you think watching this game? Debro?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
A lot of the same things fits he highlighted here
when I went through the numbers for the primer, I
mean it was it was everything that fits you just outlined.
Like you're looking at weeks one through ten. Caleb's eight
I dropped from eight point six to six point seven.
He had the eight fastest time to throw. He had
four designed runs in that game, which if you look
over the entirety of the rest of the season, he

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only had three rest of the season. So this all
and I know fits. He brought up Luke Getzid. This
honestly felt to me like what Brian day Ball did that,
you know a few years ago with Daniel Jones, really
just to newter him like like get the ball out
of your hands first read or take off running and
a run first offense really just a lot of design screens.

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It really just is like, Okay, Caleb, we need you
to play on schedule, We need you to play on time.
The best way we can do that is to get
you to throw design tunnel screens like every other freaking
play or run the ball. And so for me, I
think my biggest takeaway with this offense is that we're
continuing to see the immersions of Roman Doonza since coming

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out of the first read, Chare is leaned in his direction.
Like last week he led the team with a thirty
two percent target chair. So I think looking at the
matchup this week and looking at a few of the
things like in various particular weeks since the buye, he
has led them in first read looks, even before Thomas
Brown taken over. So I think Rome, if you're looking
at any Chicago pass catcher to really walk away from

(14:23):
this and saying who do I have the most faith in,
because it's tough to have faith in any of them,
it's probably romadoonze Fitz.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
What do you think about this matchup for kind of
the new look new ish look Bears offense against Minnesota, Specifically, it's.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Gonna be harder than the matchup against Green Bay. I'm
not sure why, but New Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley
was playing a lot of soft coverages, big cushions at
the line of scrimmage. I don't think we're going to
see that out of Brian Flores. I think he's gonna
press and make things more difficult for Caleb.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Let's go to the next matchup here, d ro Bucks
at Giants. Daniel Jones is out as the Giants starting quarterback.
What does Tommy DeVito Tommy Cutlets mean for their skill
players in fantasy this week?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's a push. I mean, Daniel Jones's barely league average,
so I don't think you're getting a downgrade for anybody
in this offense. I mean, if Brian Dable can scheme
things up around Daniel Jones, then he can scheme stuff
up with Tommy Cutlets. So for me, it's a push.
For all parts and pieces, And to be honest, man,

(15:28):
I think my biggest thing, and I just want to
mention this real fast, is I just feel bad for
Daniel Jones. Like not only did he get demoted from
from being the starter, they got him all the way
freaking down at QB four. Like he's basically the practice
squad like scout team quarterback right now. Like I get
the money and I get the reasons, I get all
of that, that's still a really tough thing to do

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to a player on your team.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Fits.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
What do you think we'll see from just kind of
this offense as a whole under Davido?

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Yeah, I agree with Debro pretty much a lateral move,
but lateral is not good in this case. Di Vito
made six starts for the Giants last year, only reached
two hundred passing yards in one of them, and I
went back and looked to see if he favored any
of the receivers, and obviously, like things are different now,

(16:19):
they've Milik Neighbors. Did not have Milik Neighbors last year.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Not really.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
There was one big Darius Slayton game, there were a
couple decent Wandell Robinson games. There was actually one hundred
yard Jalen Hiatt game thrown in there with Tommy Davido
ad quarterback. So yeah, I don't know. I mean, maybe
we just get a big dose of tyrone Tracy now
and the Giants lean into the running game, which would
be great because I think Tracy is terrific.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Were you guys ranking neighbors with Divito.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Kind of conservatively wide receiver seventeen for me, I mean,
like he's averaged I think fifty five yards per game
since the first month of the season. It hasn't been
all that pretty.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I've got I've got it more aggressive. I'm wide receiver
eleven right now. Just the Bucks secondary is terrible. I
think I think he's a lock to see ten plus targets.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
To that point fits in the four games since he
came back from the concussion stuff six point one fantasy points,
ten point six, ten point four, seven point eight, and
then he had to buy last week, So those four games,
like not that's in half PPR scoring, by the way,
So it hasn't been the like superstar that he was
in that stretch from you know, weeks two through four,
twenty three point seven, twenty four point two, seventeen point one.

(17:31):
It's looked different, you know, somewhat with the head injuries,
you know, now obviously with just kind of the state
of the offense in general.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Dero, where do you have Tracy rank this week?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh? Tyrone Tracy? I love him. I think I have
him as the top twelve. I've got him an RB thirteen.
So where where's where's the ECR at on him right now?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
ECR is that's sorry, I have the receivers up. ECR
has Tracy fourteen.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Actually, so you're just gonna spot I mean, I want
I want to stay above ECR. That's that's a definite.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Okay, let's go to Cowboys. That Commander's NFC East rivalry battle.
Jaydeen Daniels and the Commander's passing game struggled mightily to
push the ball downfield against the Philly d in Week eleven.
A lot of their passing went to Austin Eckler zach Ertz.
It was all near the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
There's been some talk about, like, you know, is he hurt,
how hurt is he is it affecting his ability to run?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
There's been some denials for some of the folks around
Washington of how hurt he is if you watch him,
that seems kind of hard to believe. Deebro, how do
you like the Commander's chances to bounce back against Dallas
in terms of that downfield passing attack.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I mean, I'll lead this off with saying, I don't
think that Jayde Daniels is fully healthy. There's no way shape,
form or fashion anybody that watched that game, and if
you go back and watch us. It's funny because FITZI
and I were talking about this before we turn the
mics on. But one specific play, and you could point
to a bunch of different plays. It's not just that
they kept everything around the line of scrimmage. He had
a three point seven a dot last week. So's not

(19:00):
kid ourselves. This is not the same Jade and Daniels
we've seen for the entirety of the rest of the season.
But Noah Brown was running across from one of those
plays and Jane Daniels needed to grip it and rip
it and push the ball to him and he couldn't
drive it. Man. So like, honestly, like his the velocity
off of his hand, like it looked very I felt
like I was watching Bryce Young. It was not good.

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And this is not me throwing shade at Jane Daniels.
I love the kid. I think he's immensely talented, but
I don't think that he's anywhere close to healthy. And
every time he saw him on the sideline, I mean
they were patting his ribs like he looked uncomfortable. He
didn't look comfortable anytime he took off the run. I
think we're gonna see maybe not as exaggerated of a
an underneath passing attack as we did versus Philly because

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Dallas is not pressing the quarterback. Their secondary has sucked
like that team just looks like they have totally given up.
So I think he's gonna have more time in the pocket.
I think we're gonna see a better game from Terry
McLaurin and the receivers in this one, but really more
because the matchup, not so much because I think Jayden
Daniels is just going to be like pretty much the

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same guy we saw earlier part of the season. Because
I do not believe you, Dan Quinn, I do not
believe that he's healthy right now.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
He's currently QB three in ECR. He's one of only
three quarterbacks that Fannas Bros. Has projected for over twenty
points this week, Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson the only
guys ahead of him. Directly behind him Justin Herbert Kyler,
Murray bow next, Jared GoF.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Patrick Mahomes given just the eye test, fits.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
From what we've seen out of Jaden Daniels and not
totally believing that he's fully healthy, and then coming off
the game we saw last week. I know Dallas is bad,
but do you think he deserves to be ranked as
QB three for the week.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
I've got him QB four, and my suspicion on that
is that I'm too.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
High on him. I've got to make QB six.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
I mean like, he has not had a rushing touchdown
since Week three. He has been held to two hundred
and nine or fewer passing yards in each of his
last three game games. He's top twenty fantasy points just
once in his last five games. Yes, it's a really
good matchup. The Cowboys are allowing eight point three yards
per pass attempt, only Jacksonville is giving up more of

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the Cowboys have the fifth worst opponent passer rating. But
I don't know, maybe I I feel like I should
have bow Knicks ranked ahead of him, and now look out,
Jaden Daniels is only six Fantasy points ahead of bow
Knicks now on the season, like objects in your rear
view mirror, maybe closer than they appear. Bow Knicks is

(21:35):
right on his bumper, and he has been like coming
on fast lately. Entirely possible that he could pass him
in the next week or two.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Worth noting, you know, the last two weeks in particular,
have been tough matchups. Like you mentioned that stat fits
only top twenty points once in the last five games.
It's really once in the last four because one of
those games is Carolina where he left early, so hard to.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, you're kind of blamed for that.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
But in those four, you know, the last you know,
three games ago was against the Giants. He was at
nineteen point nine points, so he was close. That was
the most comfortable matchup. The other two, Pittsburgh and Philly
are tough matchups. So, you know, I don't want to
say it's it's not like he's struggling against very you know,
low hanging fruit. It's been struggling against good defenses. But
it has been a struggle to your point, I don't

(22:18):
want to deny that the where he said he had
him ranked sixth.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, I've got him ranked sixth and right now, just
for everybody out there, uh Bo Nicks right now on
DraftKings plus three hundred to be the offensive rookie of
the Year, Jade Daniels is still heavy like minus four hundred.
So if you're gonna make the bet on Bowt Nicks,
probably about the time to do it.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, let's let's put a ball in the conversation with this.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Where would you guys rank Jane Daniels rest of season
amongst quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I mean, he's definitely a QB one only with the
hope that he gets healthier. Right now, I've got him
get out here during.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
The NFL season, right it's I mean, but it's.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
As rich he can if he can not to do
have a buy. I've got him at QB five. But
I mean, if you were to tell me you wanted
to push Rock Purty, Bo Nicks, maybe even Jordan love
Kyler above him, like I think, I'm not going to
push back on anybody if they would push him down
like the QB eight QB nine range.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
What do you think fits. He does have a buy
coming up in two weeks.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Not a hypothetical question for him because we had fantasy pros.
Do do rest of season rankings? You might not have known.
Uh No, I've got him QB seven rest of season?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
You know, I know we do rest of season rankings.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I want to give you opportunity to to you know,
kind of go into your thought process.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Just giving you the business for him.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Please fix all the time.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
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Speaker 1 (25:35):
All right, guys, next game, Chiefs at Panthers. Which returning
running back do we like better this week? Isaiah Picchecko
or Jonathan Brooks. Again, a reminder for everybody that we
are taping this a day early, so if there's been
any kind of change to the status of these guys.
You know, obviously it's not official that Pacheck's coming back yet,
but as of now, we're kind of anticipating that both
guys will be on the field this week. So, Deebra,

(25:57):
which running back do we like better this week? Who
is returning?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Check Over?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Can I save options? See neither I mean, if I'm
picking one guy, it's one guy has arguably the worst
matchup for running backs on the board in the entire league,
and one guy has the best matchup. So if I'm
picking one, it's Isaiah Pachecko. But I think both these
guys only play a handful of snaps. I'm not dinging

(26:22):
Kareem Hunt this week at all. I think Pachecko might
just see a handful of plays this week. But could
he get a touchdown? Could he rip off a long run?
It's possible, but I I definitely do not want to
play the ros.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Fits, and I and Ericson talked about this on the
Thursday show.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Do you think that.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
If Pachecko's on the field, the Chiefs probably don't need
him to win this game?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Right give him a matchup?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
And they're also only one loss this season, like they're
playing for the playoffs, they're playing for February only. So
if he's on the field, is that assigned to you
that he's totally cleared and we should expect the big game?
Or do you think he would be on there if
he's like not totally o the way, but let's start
easing him back in.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I think you just ease him back in man, like
I don't. I mean, look at what they've done with
a few of the other players and stuff, Like Juju
came back last week. He didn't see a full time workload.
Now I know, like you know, you got a lot
of parts, parts of pieces in that passing attack to
kind of like muddle through and stuff. So he didn't
have to push him back into that. But same thing here,
Kareem Hunt's been i mean, getting almost freaking twenty five

(27:27):
touches a game. There's nothing wrong with him, So you
don't You're not forced to have to push pa Checko immediately,
like right back into a high volume role. So I
don't think they do.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Fit's what do you think Pachecko or Brooks this week?

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Oh it's Pachecko. I mean, let's let's take the guy
who's been a successful workhorse in the NFL going up
against a run defense that pretty much rolls out the
red carpet for every running back they face. And then
we've got Jonathan Brooks, a guy who's never taken an
NFL snap, going against the defense that lays down a
bed of high Cole's for every running back they face.

(28:03):
So yeah, I gotta go with Pachecko here, and I
agree with Debro. The most likely scenario is that Pachecko
gets a slow roll coming out of the gate here
and probably plays like whatever fifteen snaps, gets five or
six carries, six or seven carries. But let's not rule
out like the possibility that the Chiefs have deemed him

(28:25):
good to go. He's their guy again, he gets fifteen
or sixteen carries wouldn't totally shock me, Like, I don't
think that's the most likely outcome, but that's a possibility,
and I kind of want a factor for that in
my ranking of Pachecko. So I don't know. I'm we
talked about this early on in the show where I'm
and I'm still sort of debating Pachecko versus like Javonte.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Williams, you know.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
So yeah, I mean I've got right now, I've got Pichecko.
I think RB twenty nine, And because look, the guy
can have a decent day even if he only gets
seven carries. Again, it's this defense. That's how bad the
defense is. Wouldn't be surprised if they gave him a
goal line carrier two to get him in the end
zone in his return return game. But yeah, I mean,

(29:11):
I just it's possible they give him a lot more
work than we're expecting.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
The other thing, I'll throw out a real fast what's
the line on this game too? Worm? Like, I mean
it's like it's eleven, it's eleven like that. That's the
other thing that I think we need to discuss here too,
Like we do all think that the Chiefs run away
with this game if that happens early, like say they
get a defensive score, the Chiefs score like two or
three other times, Like, I think this game could get

(29:36):
out out a hand pretty quickly. And if that's the case,
then maybe we see Pacheco kind of get bubble wrapped
for the second half.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like fit Fitz, do you agree with debro in that,
like you'd rather just take option see or do you
actually like Pachecko as a start this week?

Speaker 5 (29:50):
No, you can't like him when you're not sure that
he's going to play more than a dozen snaps. So
I don't like him at all. But like I'm not
about the game script thing. Maybe, like the Chiefs have
this bad habit of playing with their food when they've
got easy matchups, and like, I mean, we thought we
thought they were going to roll over the Raiders on
Christmas Day last year and look what happened. So I

(30:14):
don't know about that. I just that is a big wildcard.
What the workload split between Pachecko and Hunt is going
to be. I think we're all assuming it's going to
be mostly Hunt with a dose of Pachecko, but maybe
that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I know we're not talking about the passing attack for
this game too much, but I think this is a
big get right game. This is a really good spot
for Holmes, Kelsey and company to kind of light it up.
So I'm actually more interested in their passing attack than
their rushing attack.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Let's go to Liones at Colts. What did you guys
think of the Colts offense in the return of Anthony
Richardson last week? Obviously, he ran for two touchdowns. How
does this version of the offense for Indy matchup against
Detroit fits?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
I'll start with you, oh man, I was much more
excited about this offensive reset than I was about the
Bears offensive reset. So as with the Bears, there were shorter,
quicker throws for Richards and although not so close to
the line of scrimmage as the sort of throws that
Caleb was making earlier in the season. We were just

(31:18):
seeing all these deep shots, low percentage throws to well
covered receivers downfield for Anthony richards and just clearly wasn't working.
If he made any such throws on Sunday, I missed them.
I don't know if he had any deep throws to
well covered receivers, I don't think so. Just seemed like
he was much more accurate on Sunday than he was
earlier in the season, on target for most of the day,

(31:41):
and the Colts he used a lot of run pass
options are pos And that's about freaking time, because like
that was what I was hoping for all season from
Shane Steichen in this offense, Like you have to design
the offense around this dude's mobility, like that is the
like that that is his best traits, take advantage of it.

(32:03):
And this time it just seemed like we got such
a better game plan for Shane's from Shane Stike and
than we've been getting for most of the season when
Anthony Richardson's been the quarterback. And uh, you know, a
lot of play action too, which was nice to see.
I just wonder, like where was this earlier in the year,

(32:23):
but better late than ever.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I guess, Debro, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Finally, finally we see a game plan out of Styche
and that makes sense, man, Like I I've hated all
like a lot of the different stuff. And I'm not
saying that Anthony Richardson has played well for most of
the season, but like what Vizi is talking about, when
you're gearing up the difficulty of ten and eleven on
every single throw, everything's deep down the field. Everything's a

(32:50):
play accident, play action, deep shot. Like where are you
giving Anthony Richardson easy answers to the test? Like that
hasn't been the case for most of this season as
well as you're you're asking or up until this point,
like FITZI was talking about, Stike was asking Richardson to
play with one arm behind his back. It's like his
best weapon out of all the weapons in his back

(33:13):
is his freaking legs. Let him use them, let him run.
And we saw that last week, so like to me,
good things man, Like he was a QB four in
Fantasy last week. I'm not saying that he's gonna be
a top twelve quarterback this week. And I'm not telling
you that it's an easy matchup, but you can run
the ball on the Lions to an extent. We've seen

(33:33):
that over the last few weeks, and I think we're
seeing better play calling that actually makes sense for the
skill set of their quarterback. So Richardson, like, I don't
have him ranked as a top twelve quarterback for this week,
but what am I going to be shocked if he
walks away again this week as a top twelve quarterback?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Hell No.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
We got a question from a Mitch asking if FO
would rather start Anthony Richardson or sing Donald this week.
Richardson's about four spots higher on ecard. The upside seems
to be there with Richardson, Fitz, what do you think
Donald or Richardson?

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah, Richardson. I think that Bears Vikings game has a
total of under forty points. It looks to be like
a rock fight, and I would rather play Richardson and
just cambell on the rushing upside and maybe a little
passing upside too.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Debro, Yep, I've got Richard Richardson, I've got a there's
a wide gap in my rankings between those two quarterbacks.
I've got Donald at QB twenty one, and I've got
a rich at QB fifteen, so just barely outside the
top twelve.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Let's go to Broncos at Raiders bonickx QB seven in
ECR this week. We mettion you it a little bit
earlier QB ten in our rest of season rankings. See Fitz,
I didn't know we had those.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
This comes up.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
This comes off the heels of his best game as
a pro for Bonix, when he threw for four touchdowns
and three hundred yards against Atlanta. Will be one hundred
percent bought in on Knicks as a strong thing. Se
quarterback rests the season or is there still any cause
for hesitation?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Deepro No, I.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Know there's not cause for hesitation. And this is I mean,
I'm I'm gonna own some ls here man. As a
person who if people want to go back and pull
up the receipts our draft stream of when Denver drafted
bo Nicks in the first round, I think my first
reaction is I just started laughing my butt off. I
was like, oh, I was so dismissive, and dang it,

(35:30):
Sean Payton still got the magic. Dude still has the magic.
Shouldn't it shouldn't have questioned him as much as I did, specifically, Like,
I was not a fan of Knicks as a prospect,
and I'm wrong. I had been proven wrong, man, Like,
he has been awesome since Week five. The QB five
in Fantasy points per game since week five amongst thirty

(35:51):
six quarterbacks, he is seventh and passer rating seventh and
CPOE and he is sixth and fantasy points per game
at this point point. He's shown it at enough times.
And look, here's the thing, guys. He hasn't even been
running the last two to three weeks either, so he's
got multiple outs. Man. No, we don't need to sit

(36:13):
here and worry about it. Yeah, bot Nicks is for real. Fits.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
I've mostly bought into this. He has quickly gotten a
lot better as an NFL passer. So he's averaging six
point four yards per attempt, which isn't a great number,
but let's look at how that's evolved. Over his first
four games, Nicks averaged four point eight yards per attempt. Yikes,
that's a pretty alarmingly bad number. But over his last

(36:38):
seven games seven point four yards per attempt, which is
like rock solid NFL starter good four interceptions, in his
first two games, only two interceptions in his last nine
games for rookie quarterback, really impressive sixty five point five
completion percentage. He's accurate, he runs aggressively. So yeah, I mean,

(36:59):
I've bought in there to be bumps along the way.
He's still a rookie after all, But there is something
to be said in debro Maybe you can, like, you know,
forgive yourself for whiffing on him with the prospect evaluation.
There is something to be said. And we saw this
with Brock Perdy for a dude who makes a lot
of starts in college against power five competition, and like

(37:21):
Purdy came in and he was not overwhelmed at all
by NFL defenses. And I think it's been kind of
the same thing with bow Nicks, who you know, struggled
in the SEC, went to the PAC twelve sort of
refound himself out there. But this is just a guy
who's made a lot of starts, and maybe this is
the reason it took or has taken Anthony Richardson a

(37:44):
while to get used to the NFL. Like this guy
did not make a lot of starts in college, so
you know, like he has been thrown into the deep
end of the pool, whereas you know bo Nicks has
sort of waded in.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, And I think two big things like for these
rooky quarter I think we always go back to not
only the ecosystem that they get thrown into, but kind
of going back to the Anthony Richardson conversation good play
callers man, like not only like do these kids need
to stay aggressive and know what they're seeing on the
NFL field, but also the parter piece of they have

(38:18):
to be put in good situations, like in the sense
of like are you giving them outs? Are you giving
them easy answers to the test? Are you know, are
you stacking the deck against them? More like and honestly
helping the defense by designing an offense that doesn't eat
one either cater to their strengths or two give them
outs when they see pressure, when they see man coverage,

(38:40):
when they see different things on the field. And Peyton
is I'm so curious what this offense looks like when
we walk into Week one next year, Like what do
they do in the draft, like getting a running back,
getting other players in this offense that actually fit the system,
and getting him somebody outside of court and Sutton on

(39:01):
a weekly basis he could depend on things are looking
up in Denver.

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It's I mean, Vince, you're the import three party here.
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Speaker 5 (41:04):
I don't want to. I don't want to torture the
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know we can worm and I can save that for
after the show. So let's let's move on.

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Speaker 3 (41:17):
I love that you just gave the most, the most
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Speaker 1 (41:23):
Apologize for mentioning Maryland in and attery all right, Cardinals
at Seahawks, Jackson, Smith and Jigba did not suffer at
all with the return of DK Metcalf, leading Seattle in
targets with eleven catches with ten and yards at one
hundred and ten. How comfortable are we going back to
him as a top option after seeing him.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
With a big game while Metcalf was on the field.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Depro very comfortable. I mean, looking at him right now,
I've got him ranked as a wide receiver fifteen for
the week, and I've got DK Metcalf one spot ahead
of him. I'm almost to the point where looking at
the coverage matchup, I'm gonna flip the ranking because it
definitely leans in the favor of Jackson Smith and Jigbo

(42:03):
Atlanta I mean, excuse me and Lanta. Arizona has leaned
more too high heavy, and that has been he's been
the go to receiver JSN has versus too High I
mean Seattle when they faced too high. JSN leads the
team with a twenty three point five percent target chare,
So I like JSN a ton in this matchup, and yeah,

(42:24):
I think he's going to out target DK Metcalf this week. Fits.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
What are you doing with JSN?

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Yeah, I've got him wide receiver nineteen, so I'm pretty
high on him. Too deep ros got me out flank there,
But I still think he's pretty close to a must start.
Like we are seeing the second year breakout and it's
pretty exciting. And what we were waiting for was for
JSN to do it while sharing a field with DK Metcalf.
He'd only had one good game in games that Metcalf
had played. He had that smash game against the Rams

(42:52):
a couple of weeks ago where DK was out and
he had two touchdowns and what one hundred and eighty yards.
Last week, DK comes back eleven targets, ten catches for
JSN one hundred and ten yards. So I'm buying into
what looks like a year two breakout, Like this is
the sort of production we were expecting from a guy who,
as a nineteen year old sophomore at Ohio State head

(43:14):
a ninety five catch sixteen hundred yard season while sharing
targets with Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Like what happens when you don't have Shane Walder to
deal with hump FITZI.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Oh, that's a good point, man. I mean, like it's
starting to look pretty good here. I was wondering though,
like in fairness, like when we were not seeing anything
from him over the first half of the regular season,
I was concerned, like maybe maybe this guy, just maybe
he isn't it. But yeah, this has been a pretty

(43:45):
satisfying last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I think we've seen his role kind of change too,
like since Week five, and I just are since Week six,
like just pulling this up. Through the first five weeks
of the season, his a dot only lips eight yards
in one of those first five weeks. Since Week six,
his A dot has not dropped below seven in any game,

(44:10):
and he's only dropped below eight point five in one game.
So I think the other thing about it is Seattle
has said, you know what, you could do a lot
of other things besides us just feeding you underneath targets,
like he can win down the field, and we've seen
that and that's really given another life to JSN of
the last few weeks.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
All right, dib, but I don't want to like put
you on blasts, though you did just recently trade away
JSN in that Dynasty we reference, So I bring it
up again, not to put you on blast, but just
kind of ask like, is that a sign for kind
of how you feel about.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Him long term? No, so outside of last week, there
have been some concerning things like if you look at
separation scorers, route win rate, things like that. The other
part about this is that, like I've got JASN in
so many different leagues, I honestly a player that I
didn't and just for full transparency, it's a rebuilding team

(45:02):
and I traded for Ladd McConkie. I don't have Ladd
on a lot of different Dynasty squads, and I love
a lad right now, Like I think he is going
to go scorched earth the second half of the season.
So I look at Ladd as especially on rebuilding team
as much as just his general prospects. I look at
trading for him At that point, I felt like his

(45:26):
dynasty value is going to do nothing but go up,
So for that squad as well as just the player,
I really wanted to get lad on another dynasty team.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Worm, are you really questioning the four dimensional chess steebro
is playing in our the Dynasty League?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
How many top five picks has he traded away and
then ended up having a rebuilding year that season? And
since we started it feels like every season.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I mean, I've got a lot of really good young players.
It's not my fault you don't want to trade for
James Cook. It's not my fault that I trade Jalen
Hurts and then I get Jordan Love and a first back.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I mean, you know, yeah, you're still in last place.
This is all I can say.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Keep talking your smack. I'm going to sit here and
rub your face in the next year in this league.
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Forty nine Ers at Packers Fits, Christian Watson had by
far his best game of the season against Chicago four catches,
one hundred and fifty receiving yards, top ten finish at
the position, despite not getting into the end zone.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
So pat, what do we expect from him in this
week's follow up?

Speaker 6 (46:27):
No idea.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
He has one of the years widest weekly ranges of
possible outcomes of any wide receiver in the league. Just
a ton of big play potential here, which we saw
last week. Like he is tall and fast, his ball
skills are very underrated, like he made a couple of
spectacular catches last year against or last week against the Bears.

(46:49):
The problem is that Watson does not get the sort
of target counts that lend themselves to weekend wink out consistency.
Even if we exclude the game earlier this season against
the Vikings where he got hurt and left after just
nine snaps, he's averaging four point three targets a game,
and it does seem like he's sort of clearly moved

(47:10):
past don Tavian Wicks, which is a good thing. For
a while those two were kind of splitting snaps, you know.
And maybe he's going to start to outrank Romeo Dobbs
as far as earning targets from Jordan Love. But you know,
it's just he is a hard guy to peg. Week
in week out, I'm sort of splitting the baby. This

(47:30):
week I've got him met like wide receiver thirty four,
so you know, but he could finish wide receiver eights
or he could finish wide receiver seventy three.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Dera.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Oh, whoa, we're going to talk about another talented player
that seems to have found his way onto my dynasty
roster in that league. Interesting, huh okay, fine, let's let's
discuss him. Did I just want to see And I
was texting VIZI on Sunday because every big play that
Watson made, we were texting back and forth. And I
just want to see Watson healthy, Jordan Love healthy. I

(48:07):
think if we see that, the rest of it can
take care of itself. Man. And again, if you're looking
just for talent, I don't think any of us should
question Christian Watson. Like, since week six, amongst one hundred
and twenty four qualifying wide receivers, he ranks fifth in
separation and he ranks sixth in route win rate. I'm

(48:29):
still flummixed. I'm like FITZI, like, on a weekly basis,
who's going to get the ball? Like, looking at coverage
data and all these different things, I just want to
make a bet on the talent of Christian Watson. And
I know this sounds like a very tired diatribe, like
we've said this on this show, We've done this dance before,
but it doesn't mean that it's wrong. Man, Like how

(48:51):
many different iterations right when we think the Green Bay
Packers are getting healthy or Watson is healthy and Love
is healthy, that we see like a wrench get thrown
into the freaking gears where it's like, oh one of
them is now dinged up, Oh one of them is
missing time. I just want to see them healthy and
considering talent, I think we can see that second half

(49:13):
of centship for Christian Watson because and again looking at
just this game, it's tough to kind of parse through
all the numbers because certain guys have been healthy. Love
has been healthy, he hasn't. Watson's been healthy he hasn't.
But just looking at the coverage aspect of it, I mean,
since week four, forty nine ers are running cover three,
cover four, and almost fifty seven percent of the defensive

(49:33):
snaps against that since Week six, with Watson, Healthy, love
back all those types of things. Watson has three point
nine yards per route run against those coverage types. So,
like FITZI talked about right now, I've got him ranked
as wide receiver forty. I think you can make cases

(49:54):
anywhere from him being a wide receiver three and ranking
him over Jade Reid and as the top Green Bay guy,
to ranking him as the bottom Green Bay guy. Like.
The range of outcomes is so astronomically wide for him.
But if you need a ceiling play this week, Watson
as ceiling.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
I want to ask about Juwan Jennings on the other
side of this. At least seven catches and at least
ninety yards in both games since he returned to the
lineup healthy. Is he more of a high ceiling play
Debro or more of a high floor option this week
against the backers.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I think both. I think his floor is crazy high
and I think his ceiling's high. Man Like, I think
he's playing the Brandon Ayuk plus role in the sense
that if you look at the last few years how
the forty nine ers have attacked different coverages, it's been
really easy to kind of suss out who is going
to get the volume on a weekly basis. It's like, Okay,

(50:47):
they play a single high defense, it's Brandon Ayuk week,
and they play a two high defense. Then it's Kittle week,
or it's Debo week, er it's both of them week.
What we've seen out of Jennings, I mean, he's been
awesome against both play He's probably going to see a
lot more too high coverage this week, So I think
Deebo is going to have a really good game. But
I think Jennings is going to be massively involved, man like,

(51:08):
amongst all their wide receivers minimum forty routes, Jennings leads
the team in target per route run rate against too
high twenty nine percent, and he has three point two
yards per route run against the coverage. So I think
Jennings is going to smash yet again this week.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Fitz, what do you think?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I was looking at the stat Actually, as we were
doing this show, Michael Florio from NFL Fantasy tweeted this
wide receivers averaging three yards per route run this minimum
fifty routes, AJ Brown, Nico Collins, Rashi, Rice Pukinakua, Juwan Jennings.
So he's been I mean, obviously I'm not breaking any
ground playing spectacularly this year.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
Yeah, he's made four starts this year and he's had
no fewer than eighty eight yards in any of his
four starts, So all vote for floor. But as as
Debro said, you could make the case for floor or
ceiling because well we saw the ceiling in that game
earlier in the year where Deebo was out and he
had one hundred and seventy five yards and three touchdowns.
So yeah, I mean Jennings is averaging one hundred and

(52:04):
eleven zero point eight receiving yards in his starts for
the forty nine ers this year, So yeah, I mean,
like a star is born and here's this guy who
was just this seem like a spare part to us
in the fantasy community, to you know, up until this season,
and now I mean he is he is a force

(52:25):
to be reckoned.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
With question real fast, guys, because I just this is
percolating my brain. Does the ascension of Juwan Jennings make
Deebo expendable this offseason with pearsall on the roster?

Speaker 5 (52:37):
What do you think, Coutsie, Yeah, I mean it does
seem like there's a logjam that needs to be broken up.
It does seem hard to think that they would roll
into next season with all of Deebo Ayuk and we
know Ayuk's not going anywhere with the big contract Jennings
and pearsall.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Before we get to the key question for Sunday Nights matchup,
which is Eagles at Rams, I want to ask you
guys about your Uber Eats Sunday Night meals of the week.
We just did LA last week, so we're gonna lose
the away team this time. Deebra, What must order food
gets you reaching for your Uber Eats app for great
game day deals when you think of Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Dude, a roast pork sandwich. I just I was looking
at the description of this online and I was like,
oh my lord, man like some sharp provolone over that.
Oh heaven, heaven.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I noticed, by the way, there's a theme with all
of ours. It's a lot of meat coming to you
from Philly fits what's yours?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (53:38):
I got this will appease some of the people who
gave me grief and the comments on YouTube who roasted
me for mentioning a chopped salad last week, and one
guy was like, a chop salad in Vegas I'm like
it was in Vegas, dude, we were talking about Los Angeles.
Of course I'm not eating a chopp salad in Las Vegas,
but yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with the pork motif.

(54:00):
Philly is my kind of town.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Man.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I'm a big pork guy. A pork roll. Like if
I were in Philadelphia and hungover for any reason, like
holiday party or something like that, I could totally see
myself ordering a couple of pork rolls from Uber Eats
to help chase that hangover.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
A way, speaking of Vegas, I mean, maybe we're just foreshadowing,
but I kind of foresee in my mind, say a
liquid diet in Vegas coming.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Make a joke about like, if you're spending time in Philly,
you better be hungover. I actually really like Philadelphia. You know,
I grew up a few hours away and it was
a fun spot to go.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Mayor's gonna love this section of the show Go Bird.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
It's not like my favorite scene in the world, but like,
I do enjoy Philly for I mean, it's a.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Philly cheese steak.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Like that's the correct answer. I'm I'm the type of
person if you've discussed in this show. Who doesn't want
like onions mixed into stuff or some of the kind
of added on fix ins. But just like a great
Philly cheese steak with the meat and the cheese and
the bread like which I've had many times, as plain
as you can make, and whatever sauce they want to
throw on there, fantastic, like like I get it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I'm not I'm not going down in a limb there
with Philly she steak.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
But yeah, before we get off Philly foods, I got
to ask, have you had scrapple?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
No, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
It's like some sort of weird breakfast meat that like
they roll it in oats or there's some sort of
coding to that. It's like a breakfast thing in Philadelphia.
I've never had it, but I've.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Never had a description. Looks very interesting.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
It was like, yeah, it is a hardcore Philly thing.
Philly's an interesting eating town. Like they have some uh,
some unique specialties. I mean, like that that roast pork
sandwich like they put broccoli rob and roasted red peppers
on the sandwich, like really unique.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
And none of us even mentioned hogies. Man.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I mean, I do love a good hogy.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I worked.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
At one point, I thought you were gonna take hogy
to be here. I was a baseball scout. I lived
in Coppley, Pennsylvania, and right around the corner next to
like kind of the ability we're operating out of was
this place.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
My landers Milanders. I forget how they.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Pronounced it, but they've made these massive hogies and they
I would get them for lunch and they would last
you for days.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
They were so good. I do love a good HOGI yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
This scrapple looks great, traditional mush of fried pork scraps
and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour. Like, sign
me up, Like I'm the other thing I was gonna
I was gonna pick if you guys had taken the food.
I wanted a yngling.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
I enjoy a good yngling to go along with the
meal most of the time.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Very long as it's an I I can get down
with it.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, there you have it. Our Uber Eats Sunday Night
meals of the week. We've got pork rolls, we got
Philly cheese steak. We've got you know, anything, meat and
bread and cheese we got for Philly.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
This week.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Uber Eats has the best game day deals all season long.
Order now for game day key questioning this game guys.
Since Week seven, Devanta Smith has been really hit or
missed for Fantasy. In the last five games, he has
two games inside the top twelve at receiver and three
games outside the top fifty. Fits which kind of game
would be this week?

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Oh man, I love the player. I think DeVante Smith
is one of the best route runners in the league,
but I tend to be more of a passmiss than
an optimist about him right now, just because the passing
volume is so buttoned up right now for the Eagles.
Since the start of October, Jalen Hurts is averaging twenty
one point eight pass attempts per game. The Eagles are

(57:24):
the run heaviest team in the league. And uh, you know,
DeVante Smith is the number two receiver on this team
behind aj Brown, so the Rams aren't a bad matchup.
Davante could always pop off for a big game hit
on a couple of plays, but I've got him ranked
wide receiver twenty four, so I'm being pretty conservative with
my ranking of him this week.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Debro, where do you rank smith?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Man?

Speaker 1 (57:49):
And by the way, I'm pulling up ECR right now.
He is a wide receiver twenty one.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
I think I'm dropping him. I've got him at wide
receiver twenty two, but I'm gonna drop him the twenty four.
I might drop him a little bit further. I mean,
like he's living in a range where like I would
rather play Calvin Ridley, I would rather play Marvin Harrison Junior,
I would rather play Tank Dell. So you know, kind
of foreshadowing, it's not that again, everything that FITSI highlighted

(58:15):
is absolutely correct. It has nothing to do with the talent.
It has everything to do with the passing volume. Like
he's just he's gotten squeezed man. And the other part
about this is this is not just Okay, it's a
good matchup for Davonta Smith. We could talk about that. Okay,
that's great, that's grand. It's also a fantastic matchup for
AJ Brown and the Rams cannot stop tight ends, and

(58:36):
they can't They've been more of I mean, the run
defense has had issues. So I think that this was
a tougher matchup for like Dallas Goddard, then I would
feel a little bit better about volume getting pushed to
DeVante Smith, but I mean Dallas Goddard I think is
set up for a really, really strong game. And it's
not like Devonte Smith has a lot of outs. Man,

(58:57):
it's not like he's been getting used in the red zone,
like since week three, he has one red zone target.
So even if we want to say, well it's the volume,
but maybe he scores a touchdown, Dude, even him scoring
a touchdown is a slim proposition, you know, like so
that that might not even save his day. It just
really comes down to the matchup and can he bust

(59:18):
a big play. If he doesn't do that, we're likely
disappointed this week.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Now we usually talk about Monday Night football.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Deebra has made it clear I'm not allowed to talk
about the Ravens, despite the fact that.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Yet they make the screw sheet.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
We're a fantasy show and they're the best offense in football.
Am I allowed to talk about Ravens charges defense?

Speaker 3 (59:38):
You need a talking points did your defense every single week?
Because it's true, it's not true, but you just you
need new material. Also, we tried and picked the kind
of like the best games of the week. I mean,
like to a degree, I want to pick the fantasy
relevant ones. But I will give, like you know, at
an extra edge to a really strong matchup there. Their
schedule has been ridiculous. They all, we only play.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
In fun and excited games, so I am not I'm
not gonna apologize for talking about them on a fantasy
show when their offense is this good. We are gonna
talk about Ravens at Chargers, a classic kind of start
everyone type of game fits which players are we fading
in this one? Since I think everybody's kind of lean
is going to be to start as many as possible
in this one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Yeah, I mean JK. Dobbins against the Ravens run defense,
the ranks fifth and dvoa and has given up the
third fewest rushing yards to running backs. And yeah, I'm
not all that excited about starting any of the Baltimore
pass catchers besides A Flowers. Now, I think you could
play Rashad Bateman in a pinch if you're getting squeezed

(01:00:38):
by the sixteen bye week. You know, Mark Andrews is
an okay start at tight end, but really Dobbins is
the only guy would say it's kind of a fade
for me, you know. And even there, I've got him
ranked like running back twenty two or whatever, just based
on volume. It's just that like I wish he I
wish he were used more as a pass catcher, Like

(01:00:59):
he's gotten a little bit of usage there, but it's
just I don't see him having a big day on
the ground against the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Debro what do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I mean again, it's the type of game where people
are going to be inclined to just get as much
exposure as they can.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
But is there anybody that you are personally fading?

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
I think the first name that people need to hear
is exactly when the fitz he letoff with is JK.
Dobbins the one that I'm going to go down the
list for that. I think a lot of people are
going to have to start And I'm telling you I
would be considering streaming options over him as Mark Andrews.
And I know that name might surprise some people, but
the charges are legitimately the worst matchup you can have

(01:01:40):
for a tight end right now. They are the only defense,
the only defense in the NFL that has yet to
allow a receiving touchdown to a tight end, the only defense.
There are a lot of defenses that have held tight
ends to one touchdown. They are the only defense that
is yet to allow now a single touchdown, and they

(01:02:02):
have allowed the sixth fewest receiving excuse me, the six
fewest Fantasy points per game to opposing tight ends. So Andrews,
I understand that a lot of people are going to
have to start him. I get that they're i mean
looking at streaming options, like I know I'm going to
sound crazy for this, but telling me the best matchup

(01:02:24):
on the board, Like if you need ceiling this week,
I wouldn't push back against somebody, but playing JT Sanders
over Mark Andrews.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
I knew that was the name that was coming. I mean, well,
the worst matchup.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
On the board for tight ends, best matchup on the
board for tight end.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Yeah, the Chief smother perimeter receivers and like get crushed
by tight end. So it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
You know, the Chargers, they haven't faced a murderer's row
of tight ends, but they have faced Bowers, Kelsey ed
McBride this year, so it's they have had some games
against some really good tight ends.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
All the Sinci guys didn't get in last week either.
That's what I told people to must bench Mike A
Secu last week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
That's a that's a great set.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Do you think, Debro, there's any credence to the idea
of like the Chargers will want to kind of help
either Dobbins or Gus or both get touchdowns against their
former team.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Yeah, I mean I think Dobbins definitely, especially you know
comeback narrative. He's had a great season and stuff like that.
The other part about this, man, like I do you
just want to root for a team with Harball, Like
Jim Harball has done such a good job with the Chargers, man,
that team, like from every video clip we've seen, like
they freaking love him, dude, Like I want to see

(01:03:34):
them win again. Like it being the Harball Bowl, Is
this the first time we've seen both Harballs since play
each other since the Super Bowl? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Well, they played on Thanksgiving night one year.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I don't remember what year that was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Was that I just I just started getting like memories
and flashbacks of the freaking Super Bowl. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Yeah, I mean that's obviously the big, the big one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I forget what year was that they they play, because
it was there was that Thursday night Thanksgiving game that
they played, and I don't remember if it was if
it was before or after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I'm trying to look it up here, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Think unless I'm totally forgetting one, I think those are
the only two times they've played. Was okay, yeah, so
that was before the super Bowl. Looks like that was
twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
So the Super bowls the last time they met that,
so I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Think that is the most recent time. Yeah. Interesting, that's uh, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I mean, it's always you said, you said, it's always
you always want to root for the team with Harbaugh.
You didn't specify which one at first, so I'm gonna
sign that well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
I was due to be honest, I was like, which
one is it? Which It's like when you talk about
you bring up the last name of car You're like,
is it David or Dearred?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Is it David or Derek?

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah, it feels when you root for one of the teams,
it's like you're obviously much more attaining to it. And
but I do hear people all the time say Gym
when they mean John or vice versa, and it's always
it's always fun. This is gonna be a great game
that I'm really I think this we were talking about
this on the Thursday show. Also de Bro, I think
that this is going to Like I loved the Raven
Steelers under love, loved, loved it last this week, I

(01:05:01):
adore the over in this one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
I think this game is going over. Yeah, now you
the nail on the head last week about Lamar and
Steelers and stuff like that. Like, I think this game
is going to go over. I think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
My favorite bet of the week was under and the
under basically clinched in the first quarter. I mean you
could just tell watching Raven Steelers where that was going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
But best of luck to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Everybody this weekend, whatever bets you make or start set
decisions you have. Hopefully this is a really fun slate,
a couple of standout games like I mentioned, so I
really appreciate everybody tuning in and again, if anything happens
to Thursday night, sorry we missed it. We had to
tape early this week. But for Debro and Fits, I'm
ryan warmly thanks everybody for tuning in again. We'll see
again next week. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros

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