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December 3, 2025 • 60 mins

Colin is joined by Dan Farah, the producer and director of the new documentary Age of Disclosure

They dive into the stunning revelations behind Age of Disclosure, his new documentary on UAPs and the decades-long retrieval programs operating outside congressional oversight. Farah explains the moment he realized just how extraordinary the story was—the subjects’ accounts all lined up, people only felt safe speaking out together, and evidence pointed to an 80-year effort by the U.S., China, and Russia to locate and study advanced craft. He and Colin discuss why the public deserves transparency, the trillion-dollar scale of the program, and why credible officials—from military base contacts to former intelligence leaders like James Clapper—are now willing to put their reputations on the line.

Farah walks through some of the most dramatic moments in the documentary: football-field-sized craft at nuclear bases, physical harm reported by people who got too close, and the “bubble” theory that explains how these objects warp spacetime and evade photography. The conversation explores underwater UAP activity, misguided attempts to engage the craft militarily, and the slow drip of official disclosures—including claims of recovered bodies and technology. Colin even shares his own childhood UFO sighting, as Farah argues that Age of Disclosure is only the beginning of what the public is about to learn.

Timeline:

00:00 Dan Farah joins the Colin Cowherd Podcast 

01:45 What was the “Oh shit” momentum you had during the making of the doc?

02:45 It was shocking how many of the subjects stories lined up

03:45 People needed safety in numbers in order to tell their stories

05:00 What is the UAP retrieval program that’s been going on for 80 years?

06:00 The program has been operating outside of congressional oversight

06:45 China and Russia have active UAP retrieval programs

08:00 Public should be informed so we can put more resources into the program

09:45 Did anybody you talked to think it was China beating us in an arms race?

11:30 Need to make the case to the public that we need to win this tech race

13:30 This project has thousands of employees and a trillion dollar budget

15:45 Which military base contact stood out the most to you?

16:45 UAPs show up at bases and nuclear weapons sites

17:45 Football field sized craft appeared at Vandenberg Air Force Base

19:45 Having an experience seeing a UAP will change you forever

20:30 Colin’s experience seeing a UFO when he was younger

21:45 People interviewed who had contact have had negative physical effects

22:30 Getting too close to this technology has caused sickness and cancer

24:15 The “bubble” theory of how the UAP’s work

25:30 The craft are warping space time around themselves

26:30 Inside the bubble the craft aren’t impacted by physics or the environment

27:30 The bubble is why we can’t get good photos of the craft

28:00 This technology is the solution to energy crisis and interstellar travel

30:15 Has there been any pushback to Age of Disclosure?  (CUT BAD ACTORS LINE) 

32:30 Credible people with stellar resumes put their names/reputations on the line

34:00 There’s an enormous amount of UAP activity underneath the ocean

34:30 The ocean is the easiest place to hide from humanity

35:45 UFO became UAP because of the activity underwater

37:15 No reports of UAP’s shooting down planes, few stories of them causing harm

38:00 Humans have fired missiles at UAP’s… not a great idea

39:15 What do we know about Russia’s retrieval program?

40:00 There was a directed energy weapon in craft retrieved by Russia

40:30 Rumors that Trump may disclose the existence of craft/program

42:30 Many of the UFO reports near Vegas turned out to be the stealth bomber

44:30 James Clapper has impeccable resume and had nothing to gain by speaking out

45:30 Area 51 is the epitome of conspiracy and BS, and Clapper confirmed it’s real

46:45 Clapper confirmed they had a program to investigate UAP despite government denials

47:30 There’s a whole lot more information that can’t be lawfully disclosed

48:15 Does the disclosure feel like testing the waters to see how the public reacts?

49:00 We’re in a period of time where the public will continue to learn more

50:15 It feels like we’re slowly getting information parsed to us

51:15 Age of Disclosure sets the table for more information to be released

52:15 Senior official revealed he had seen alien bodies & craft firsthand

54:45 Once the public

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sold near you. Today's guests on the pod is Dan Farrah.
Dan's the director and producer of Age of Disclosure. It's
currently on Prime Video. In fact, it's the number one

(01:30):
movie on Prime and if you look at their lineup,
that's pretty heavy stuff. Dan Farrah has made a movie
that has altered my perception of intelligence beyond our borders

(01:53):
and beyond our capabilities. And when I watched Age of Disclosure,
and I'm not as cynical today as I was twenty
years ago. And a lot of that's because of videos
of craft and technology that were clearly not capable of.

(02:13):
And so I thought, I want to spend an hour
with Dan Farrah. And many of you have seen it,
probably many more of you will see it, and so
let's start our interview. Well, for years, I thought Man
on Wire was my favorite documentary and if you've not

(02:34):
seen that, I highly recommend it. But our next guest,
Dan Fara, is a director and producer of Age of Disclosure,
and anybody who was listening to my three hour radio
TV show knows I was much more cynical about craft
until I saw the Pentagon leaked New York Times reporting

(02:56):
on the tic TAC shape device, andsequently the pilots are
pilots freaking out. They were highly credible people, and from
that point forward, I think I look at it. I
don't feel there's a stigma in America. I don't look
at it cynically. Dan Fara has created a documentary I

(03:17):
think is really for those of you who have been
cynical Age of Disclosure. It took I read three years
to produce this, thirty four senior intelligence officials, astrophysicists, pilots,
people who have been biologically affected. I have to start

(03:39):
with this. Dan, over the course of your production of this,
this is really a lifetime work. I mean, this is
something you're obviously proud of. When was the moment, maybe
it was an interview, I certainly know I had a
couple during the documentary when was a kind of a

(04:01):
jaw dropper or a shit just got real. I am
hearing things that even I you may have questioned or
been a bit cynical about. Did you have one of
those aha moments?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, for me, it was when I started to get
access to a high level to intelligence officials, military officials,
government officials, and got an audience with them in private
before I interviewed them, just private conversations, phones off, real honest,
grounded conversations about the reality of this. For me, the

(04:37):
eye opening, the first eye opening experience was realizing that
all these people who have mostly no relationship at all
and are ideologically opposed. You know, they all have different worldviews,
they all have different political beliefs, they all have different
social beliefs, they were all saying the same thing. And
it was super eye opening to me right off the bat.

(04:57):
In those first few weeks of you know, going to
d C and getting these these private meetings, it was
it was shocking how lined up they all were on
these big truths that have been hidden from the public.
And they were also all lined up on why they

(05:18):
haven't spoken about it so far. So there's this line
that they can't cross, right, there's classified information that none
of these people reveal, but there's a lot that they
can lawfully disclose. And for decades, people with that information
have just been discouraged from sharing it publicly, uh through

(05:40):
through very through for various reasons, you know, threats to
their career, threats to their reputation. Some people feared it
would cost them their life, and they just decided it
was best to keep silent about it. And and as
I had these conversations with them, I realized that the
only way to get these kind of people to speak

(06:00):
up with what they lawfully could would be to give
them the platform to do it arm in arm, you know,
to have numbers for them all to you know, you know,
step up and speak their truth together, and and to
do it in a film that is assuring them, Hey,
you're not going to be intercut with some knucklehead you

(06:21):
know who's just cool casting or has like an interesting opinion.
It's only going to be I will only interview people
who have direct knowledge of this topic as a result
of working for the US government. And I'll put you
all in the same film together. You can have safety
of numbers. There'll be dozens of you. And that was
the solution to to the problem but you know, again,
the eye opening thing for me was just how in

(06:43):
sync all of these people were, you know, regardless of
their political opinion, regardless of their you know, ideologies, like
they were all in sync on the reality of the situation,
and that just in Yeah, that's eye opening.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
So let's talk about the retrieval program, because that's not
something that happened over the last year two That is
forty fifty plus years eight Russia, eighty years, eighty years,
eighty years total. And for the uninitiated, the people who
have not seen this, and I figure between thirty and
fifty percent of my audience have and you know, sixty

(07:20):
to fifty something thereabouts, haven't explain what the retrieval program
is that's been going on for eighty years, because that
will make that our starting point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
So look, the biggest headline of what's revealed this film
is that the existence of non human intelligent life, intelligent
life that is not human, has been covered up for
eighty years. And on top of that, there has been
a deeply hidden program within our government system and our
military system that has been capturing and retrieving crashed UAP

(07:56):
formerly known as UFOs right and been doing so for
eighty years, and they have been actively working behind the
scenes to figure out how to reverse engineer this technology,
meaning how to recreate it. Right, this technology that does
things that we don't have the current ability to do,
and they are trying to figure out how it works

(08:18):
so that we can use that technology. That is the
simplest way to say it. Now. People in my film
reveal that this program has been operating for eighty years
outside of congressional oversight, meaning it's been hidden from Congress,
the people we elect to oversee how our tax dollars
are spent, how our country has run. Right, this program

(08:39):
is operating outside of their oversight. People in the film
also reveal that the program has even been operating outside
of the oversight of the President of the United States,
meaning the public, Congress, and the White House are out
of the loop. Right, And a number of the people
in my film feel like that needs to change because
we are now in a very heightened, high stakes cold

(09:01):
war technology race with China because they have the same
set of circumstances. They have also been retrieving these crashed
uap UFOs.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
And our intelligence tells us that yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And that's what that's what the people my film reveal
that China has a very active program, and so does Russia.
The biggest concern is China specifically, But China and Russia
have programs, and this is a technology race, and people
in my film refer to it as the Manhattan Project
on steroids, you know, the atomics, right, sure, And so
people in my film feel like it's important for this

(09:34):
all to come out of the shadows and the base
facts to be known so that the US can put
more resources towards it. You know, government only puts resources
towards what the public demands. Resources are put towards, right,
you know, right right after nine to eleven, average person
in America was like, hey, we got to put more
money towards counter terrorism, right, we need more you know

(09:56):
going on here to fight this stuff. And so what happened.
We put tons of resource versus funding towards it. The
position of the Director of National Intelligence was created to
make sure the intelligence community was sharing more information so
we could avoid an intelligence failure like nine to eleven
halving again. And so what the people in my film
are essentially saying is, hey, let's not wait till something
bad happens on this front. Let's make the public aware

(10:18):
of the base facts of the situation so that the
right amount of resources can be put towards it, so
people can the average person can learn what's happening and
can make their voice heard to their elected representatives and say, hey,
take this more seriously, put the right resources towards us.
And that's really why they're speaking up about this secret program.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
So and in terms of technology, there are things that
China is ahead of us. Electric vehicles some would say
five G.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I would say.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
High speed rail. You could argue that China is our
equal space. Technology is again they feel but I feel
like they're in our class. And so as I watched
the tick Talk tic TAC. As I watched the tic
Tac that video that came, you know, from the Pentagon

(11:14):
New York Times, I remember opening the paper and thinking, WTF,
what is going on? My first thought is China's ahead
of us. Now, there are things there are economic metrics
dan that they're not in their form of government I
don't think is obviously not as progressive, but there are
things that they are ahead of us. And I thought,

(11:37):
you know what, they have cracked the code of reverse engineering,
that's why. And they may have done it decades ago.
Because if they can activate and deactivate nuclear, you know,
base weapons, why wouldn't they blow us up? Why wouldn't
they sow doubt and chaos? Why would they do this covertly?

(12:00):
So are there anybody in our thirty four insiders that
you talk to that think maybe a big part of
this is China beating us to the race? Not wanting
to start World War three, but if they can deactivate
nuclear sites, which has been discussed and has happened, they're

(12:20):
testing stuff and they're simply ahead of us. They don't
want to start war, but they want to end it
and control us. Is that possible?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, look, anything's obviously possible.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
But the.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
People I interviewed made it clear that this high stakes
race with China is a very close race. And Senator
Arounds from South Dakota, who's a very senior guy in
the US Senate. He says in the film, he says,
you know, do you think that Putin and she would
hesitate for even a second to use this technology for

(12:52):
their global domination if they didn't think we the US
had access to the same technology. And that was a
really bombshell line in the film in a big statement
by him, because it sheds light on how real this
technology race is. Both countries have made progress clearly, and
you know, there's a general belief though that we would

(13:14):
benefit from general belief amongst the people I interviewed that
we would benefit as a nation if the base facts
were made public. And the analogy a lot of these
guys made with me is, you know, when we entered
the space race, Kennedy gave that big famous, you know,
rally espeege where he said, you know, we are determined
to win this race. And he speaks about the space technology.

(13:36):
He says, space technology is like nuclear technology. It has
no conscience of its own. It's up to mankind to
either use that technology for good or for bad, for
peace or for war right, And his whole point was
he wanted the US to lead the way in the
space race so that the US could make sure that
technology is used for the better betterment of mankind and
not for war. And it's the same situation here. And

(13:58):
I don't think in a lot of people I've interviewed
have made it clear to me that they don't think
we would have won the space race if that speech
hadn't happened. It made it clear the public that this
was a real thing. Because what happened as a result
of that is people in the scientific community and people
in academia could say to themselves, Hey, I can put
my brain power towards this, I can help the US win,

(14:19):
right They you know, they can apply themselves to that,
to that effort, Whereas now this situation is so hidden
in secrecy. The average scientist, average person at you know,
at you know, academia, these like you know, super smart
people that are at MIT and all these fancy schools,
they don't even know this is real, right, And obviously

(14:39):
they can't help us win this race if they don't
know it's real.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, right, And that's another reason for the age of disclosure.
People are pressing this this this the Manhattan Project. Of course,
there were I think one hundred and thirty thousand people involved, UK, Canada,
the United States the Manhattan Project. It was, you know,
the nuclear bom Do we have a sense between the

(15:03):
number of people one hundred and thirty thousand people in
America is a large corporation. Yeah, but given the time
of the Manhattan Project, it's a remarkable number of people
working on something covertly. Do we have any idea that
the volume dan the number of people between defense contractors, CIA,

(15:26):
Air Force intelligence officials, what is the number we're talking
about the people that have knowledge and that are working
on retrieval programs and advancement of devices and craft.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, this is one of the one of the fascinating thoughts.
Like I've been told off the record that this is
not a small program, that this is thousands of people
employed full time, and that it's been the case for
eight years. And I've been told that the overall budget
of this situation is closer to a trillion dollars his

(16:01):
billions a year for eighty years. And to people who
focus on this every single day, and every time I've
thought about that, it's it's really a head scratcher, because
what it leads you to is, you know, the guy
you're sitting next to on the bleachers at your kids
litle league baseball game, you know, he might have just
spent his day working on this stuff, and you think

(16:21):
he is you know, a ups driver, you know, or
like you know the family across from you at the
local pizza place. The dad might be dealing with non
human technology all day and this high stakes race and
his family doesn't know about it, His neighbors don't know
about it, and he don't know about it. These are
normal people who are living amongst us who have the
job of dealing with this, you know, And that's that's

(16:41):
a pretty remarkable thought. But it was the case with
the Manhattan Project too, Like you said, lots of people
going to work every day working on this atomic race.
You know, the stakes were the future of humanity back then,
whether it was going to help us win World War
two or not. And they were dealing with this, They
were falling asleep with that on their shoulders, and their
neighbors had no clue. Their family, we had no clue,
you know. So we've been as a country, we've been

(17:03):
in a situation like this before, but this is this
is the biggest version of it yet by far.

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(18:55):
when you went and it was senior officials, highly credible people,
many retired. You went to Missoula or Missouri or California.
You went to bases a great It was really like
Google maps. You went in and zoned in on these
bases and told stories. And these were people that were older.

(19:21):
They were not hyperbolic. They almost felt as if they
were ashamed they hadn't told this story earlier. They were
That's what it felt like to me. They felt like, listen,
I'm telling you the story. I mean, what in the
world could it have been?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
They felt guilty for not telling it earlier. Of all
those base stories and there's four or five you illustrate,
and it's really worth watching for that five minute part
of the documentary. Which one to you? I mean? Because
they all felt so real and there's no reason at
this point you're retired to you know, ad libit or

(19:58):
disclose information that's not forthright and honest. Which one of
those base experiences to you? Is there one you still
think about or one that had the most impact to you?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, for sure, said one really stands out to me.
But first I'll tell you. Look, you you interview people
every day this film. This was the first documentary I
directed and the first time I conducted interviews right, and
I really truly felt it when they were sharing their
truths and their experiences. I felt like these people were

(20:30):
just getting a weight off their shoulder and relieved to
finally talk about it right, Like they wanted the world
to know the truth. They felt deserve the world deserved
to know the truth. So the activity at bases UAP base,
the UAP activity over military bases, it's not just military base,
it's also our nuclear weapons sites, and it's active. It's
an ongoing issue. And I interviewed a number of military

(20:54):
officials who experienced events that happened in our classified airspace
over military basis, and one that really stands out took
place at Vanderberg Air Force Base. I'm in Los Angeles
right now as I talk to you, and st up
the coast like two hours is Vanderberg right around Santa
Barbara area, And I interviewed a Air Force security guard

(21:15):
whose job at the time was to guard nuclear weapons
like a guy we clearly trust, right, like not a
crazy person, like someone put in a very trusted position.
And he was amongst it was five or six other
Air Force security guards at the time. They saw a
light coming off the coast, the Pacific coast, towards the base.
At first they thought it was an airplane that was

(21:37):
flying towards them. They just saw a single light and
then as it got closer, the light went away and
what came into view was a giant what they described
as a giant craft the size of a football field.
It puts his arms out like this and says it
was the size of a football field. It was rectangular,
it was matt black, no lights, no visible means of propulsion,

(21:58):
and it was just there and it came over the
base over their heads, and it hovered over their heads,
and they said they just looked up in awe and
shocked at this extraordinary thing that just defied everything they
knew about reality. And then it shot off at thousands
of miles an hour. Obviously, you know, mankind has never
made a craft the size of a football field that

(22:18):
could fly no propulsion system and no lights and then
shoot off at thousands of miles an hour. And you know,
hearing hearing this, this this person tell his story was extraordinary.
H He had never spoken up publicly about it. This
was his first time going public after a month wow decade.
He had no desire previously to talk about it. But

(22:40):
when he learned about you know who was speaking up
in this film and revealing the truth, he felt like
it was important for him to join that and share
his truth. But was also extraordinary. On top of that is,
after talking to him, I talked to other Air Force
security guards that were on the base that day and
they all told the same thing. They all had the
same story from different perspectives. And then a couple of

(23:03):
them actually slip me the police report, the Air Force
Security police report that had to do shows the details
in it and it's a real situation that actually happened,
and that is extraordinary. The idea that there are human
beings out out there in our country that have had
these experiences, you know, and I and I and I
you know, I was talking about this with with Joe

(23:24):
Rogan last week. I'll ask you, like, think about, like
put yourself in the shoes of this guy. What like
what would your reaction be? You look up and you
see a UFO the size of a football field just
above you, and it takes off thousands of miles an hour.
It's you know, that's that's so insane and such a
like departure from what we know to you know, be reality. Right,

(23:45):
It's got to just forever change you. And I think
these people who have these experiences, I think they are
forever changed by them.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well, I've told my audience this. I think once before,
I had an experience years ago. I was in college.
I was in a I believe it was a AMC
pacer my dad had got from his friend who was
car dealer wow. And I had driven from college with

(24:11):
Mark Fisher who was my friend, and we uh were
in a very rural area in Drayln, Washington and We
pulled up to my house, which had a long driveway
and I had a Frank Lloyd Wright house. I've told
this once or twice before. And I saw a light
above the house and it was a very rural road,
so I Mark was sleeping, and I said, hey, dude,
look look what is that. It was very small hovering

(24:33):
right over our house, multiple lights and as I pulled
up our driveway, it shot out and up.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
And I went, okay, I'm going to take Mark home.
I did. I came back. I came and my mom
she was up actually because I'd driven from college and
she wanted to make sure I was safe. I said,
did you hear anything? She goes, She was British, No, Darling,
I didn't hear anything. I said, nothing, a humming anything.
So I always chalked it up. My town was small.

(25:01):
We didn't have helicopters in my town. It wasn't a
small plane because it hovered and then went out and up,
and it was I was thinking, as I was taking
the train in Chicago, I'm an La some but Chicago more.
And I was thinking, I'm not going to waste his
time with his story. But now we can you know,
kind of segue to it. As you know, there have
been Aaron Rodgers has talked about this, Baker Mayfield, who

(25:23):
I you know. I didn't chide, but I sort of
poked funted him. I said, I don't want my quarterbacks
talking UFOs. Right, this is an adult position. But the
truth is a lot of people who have nothing to
gain from it have had these experiences. What I thought
was really fascinating is the negative biological effects of people
you interviewed of your thirty four and senior intelligence officials

(25:47):
who have come in contact with not only craft, but
I guess I would say, lack of a better word, aliens, yes,
that have had very negative physical biological effects. Take our
audience there, because that to me again, to say that publicly.

(26:09):
To say it privately at a party is one thing.
To say it publicly is mind blowing to me. I
don't remember anybody of that level ever saying that publicly. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
So one of the big reveals that came out making
this dock is that Intellton officials military officials who have
encountered uap UFOs have had biological effects, meaning being getting
too close to this technology has negatively impacted them their
health their bodies in some cases caused cancer. And you know,

(26:44):
it's understandable because this is a technology that we don't
fully understand and it's extremely powerful and it gives off
a lot of energy. So the analogy is like, hey,
if you didn't know what an F sixteen was and
you went and stood behind it when it was taken off,
you're gonna get fed up, you know, like it's not great. Yeah,
And so you know, I think what we're learning is
that this technology is far outside or understanding in every way.

(27:10):
And yes, there's been a number of of Intel officials
and military officials who have had severe health issues and
some people have passed away from cancer that they got
by being too close to UFOs and and that's a
darker part of this whole truth that is coming out
now and it is shocking. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Dan Fara is joining US director and producer Age of Disclosure.
What has been interesting is since you have done this documentary,
there's been other pieces of video that have run even
on the network nightly news. One in particular is what
appears to be a UAP I think it's Yemen, and

(27:57):
we fire at it and the missile or the shot
goes through it bounces through it, which, based on the
bubble wrap theory in your documentary, is explainable. So the
Nightly News couldn't explain it. But I want you to
talk about the two physicists that talked about the bubble
wrap theory because I have seen and many people who

(28:20):
have seen these UAPs there is a almost a muted
look like they're inside something. And if you could, let's
talk about the bubble rap theory. It's about a three
to five minute discussion, and it really to me it
was a pivotal moment because a lot of these things

(28:41):
look different. The ones I've always struggled with is the
ones that appear to have a circular device or a
shield around them, and it was described by your physicists.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah. So over the years, it has been a lot
of flight performance characteristics that have been observed. When people
see you, they see them doing these these these these
performance characteristics that defie physics as we know it. Right,
And a couple of the very senior scientists that I
interviewed who worked on classified UAP programs for the US government,

(29:13):
they reveal in the film that they have figured out
how this technology works, how these UAP are are doing
what they're doing, and simply put, these craft are generating
a significant amount of energy and they are creating a
they're essentially warping space time, which sounds like something out

(29:34):
of a science fiction movie. I understand that, but they
are saying. What the scientists reveal is that they are
warping space time in a localized area, and they're creating
a bubble around the craft. And essentially, the simplest way
to say it is that bubble creates a barrier between
the craft the environment the craft is in in our environment,
so the laws that you know define what you can do,

(29:58):
you know with you know, put physics to do in
our environment are no longer applicable, right, So what happens
in that bubble is completely different than what happens outside
the bubble. So they might be moving along having a
Sunday stroll like a leisurely flight, right and to us
it looks like they're going into these impossible speeds. It
explains everything. It explains why trans medium travels or we

(30:21):
see these craft going from space to the air to
the ocean seamlessly through these separate environments, which is not
something our aircraft can do. But once you understand that
they're in their own space time environment or within this bubble,
then it makes sense because the bubble and everything in
it is not impacted by the environment around it. It
also explains why we've had so much trouble getting these

(30:43):
things on radar, because the way radar works is a
radar emitter shoots radar at an object, and then it
bounces back to the radar emitter, and that's how you
figure out where the thing is right. But in this case,
the radar is just bouncing around the bubble and continuing
on right. It also explains, you know, the answer to
the age old question why is it so hard to
get a good photo or video of a UFO. The

(31:04):
simple answer is because we're taking photos and videos through
a space time barrier, through this bubble. It's the equivalent
of trying to take pictures of fish under the ocean
from above the ocean. You can't do it. No one
would ever be like, hey, I'm trying to take a
picture of these fish in this coy pond that it
looks all blurry. Why is that happening? You'd be like, well, moron,
you're taking a picture from above the water. To some

(31:25):
in the water, right, And it's the same thing here,
Like you can't get a good picture of these things
because we're trying to take photos through a spacetime barrier,
through this bubble that's been created. And this warp bubble
is the key to that technology. And what's also extraordinary
about it is, as the signedists say, this technology, this
ability to generate this immense amount of energy in a
localized area and create this warp bubble, it is it is,

(31:48):
in their opinion, the key to interstellar travel. It's the
key to basically the next chapter for humanity. Right, it's
a solution to the energy crisis, creating immense amount of energy,
and they're tapping an energy that we haven't figured out
how to tap into yet. Right, That could solve one
of the biggest problems humanity has, the energy crisis. It

(32:10):
could set up future generations, you know, for a much
better life. And then you know, in terms of you know,
opening its doord interstillar travel, they could just expand you know,
you know, mankind's exploration of the galaxy. The possibilities are limitless.
One of the other big big things talked about with
Rearther technology is once we start making this information known

(32:35):
to academia and the scientific community. Then they can put
their brain power towards it, and who knows what else
comes off the back of that. You know, the Space
Race was a single mission to get to the Moon, right,
but the process led to something like thirty five thousand
other inventions coming off the back of it that have
benefited us, like things we don't even think about, Like

(32:56):
you know, I think velcro and microwaves and like things
we use. Yeah, right, right, And you don't know what
will come off the back of something like this, So
so yeah, that's that sequence in the film is one
of my favorite sequences of the film because the two
people who speak are incredibly intelligent. They're quantum physicists. They
worked as senior scientists on these classified UAP programs for

(33:20):
the government, and they're just straight up revealing how this
technology works. And it's stated in such a simple way
that you don't need to be a rocket scientist to
follow it, you know, and it all makes sense and
it's it's really inspiring.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
How has the UFO community. I would be considered a normy, right,
Like I when I said how much I loved your film,
your documentary, Uh, you know, a few people push back, Well,
now the normies are talking about it.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
But.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I can sense because you're getting such legitimate it, corporate discussion,
nightly news, major cable programs. Joe Rogan has always had
a great interest in this. But because you're getting so
much credit and so much discourse and discussion, has there

(34:20):
been any pushback from you know, nobody's ever done this,
nobody's ever had thirty four senior intelligence officials, and the
documentary beyond that is so brilliantly made. Has there been
any pushback or have you been universally accepted and celebrated.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, look, I think before the movie came out, I
certainly dealt with some people who were causing problems for
me behind the scenes, and there were a number of
people who wish this movie didn't exist, wish I hadn't
made it, wish it wouldn't get released. I overcame all
that and obviously got the movie out there. I think
that the response to the film has been so overwhelmingly supportive,

(34:59):
and as you said, in an unprecedent way, is getting
serious news coverage. And I was on Jake Tapper on CNN,
I you know, Hannity and Brett Baher on Fox and
Your Times did a big piece about a secret screening
I held for Congress a couple of weeks ago, how
important that was. And so I think all of that
is making people realize how important this is, and it's

(35:20):
overcoming those who would want to cause problems. But there
are still they're still bad actors on social media. I'm
aware of people who are paid bad actors who are
actually on social media, paid to just wake up every
morning and disparage this film and the people in it. Yes,
take shots at it, and that's a very real thing.
They're not the smoothest operators, because once you realize they're

(35:42):
doing it, I can tell. I mean, some of it's
so obvious, you're like, no one spends this much time
ragging on the same thing unless it's their and guess
what it is your job, you know, Like so, but
you know what, I think the reality of it is
the good guys winning the end, and you know, the
truth will prevail. And this film is thirty four people

(36:03):
arm in arm putting their credibility on the line to
share their truth. And I think ultimately that that's any
of these bad actors on social media just making up disparaging,
negative stuff. I just think it's noise and the truth is.
The truth is gonna win. And you know, you know,
speaking of three four people, the thing everyone's gonna remember
this day and age. You could put a four K

(36:24):
video of that giant craft that went over Vanderberg online
and half the human population will think it's AI. They'll
be like, oh, some Hollywood producer made that with visual
effects or this or that, right, But people, credible people
with amazing resumes and and lots of credibility, putting their
their name and reputation on the line and going on

(36:44):
camera on the record revealing this information. To me, that
is that is the strongest evidence you could hope for.
And I think it's gonna ultimately overshadow any any bad
actors online, who are you know, saying to spare things.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Only twenty seven percent of the ocean is mapped. Many
of these videos, these craft have been in and out
of the water. There's two or three that are more
prominent that I think almost everybody listening to this will
have seen. Were there discussions with any of the people

(37:24):
that you talk to that believe that's their primary base
on this planet or is it something they can you
know they can activate, they can hide, or does it
go deeper than that? Sometimes, by the way, when you
do a documentary, there's some stuff that may be interesting
but doesn't make the cut. You guys didn't spend a

(37:47):
ton of time on the ocean, and my take is
because you didn't want a six hour documentary. But when
you talk to these intelligence officials, the thirty four people,
is there a sense that there are bases a base
or there's a lot more activity in the infrequently mapped

(38:07):
oceans that's going on.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, there's an enormous amount of activity the oceans that
I've learned about. And yes, the only reason I didn't
go deeper into the ocean is just because I had
to get this documentary under two hours for people to
kill me. But yes, so everyone I interviewed was of
the same mindset and thought that the most obvious place

(38:31):
for the UAP to hide is the ocean, because the
majority of our planet is the ocean and it's the
easiest place to hide from humanity. On top of that,
there's been a lot of activity recorded by our military
in Tennis Committe under the ocean. There have been reports
of craft the size of football fields again moving at
one hundreds of miles an hour under the ocean, which

(38:53):
is not something we have the capability to do, you know,
and it's extraordinary. There are definitely hot spots. Congressman Tim
Burchett actually recently talked about it publicly in an interview
that there's four or five hot spots that are believed
to be either maybe their bases, maybe it's just a

(39:16):
lot of activity there. We don't know that's yet to
come out, but there's a lot of activity under the ocean.
And that's also you know, for people who haven't really
looked in this topic and they hear, okay, now people
are calling UFOs u a P. Why did that change happen?
The primary change is UFO stood for Unidentified Flying object

(39:36):
UAP stands for Unidentified anomalists phenomena, and that that is
because it covers activity under the ocean and not just
in the sky, because the things underwater are not flying
technically right, But there is a tremendous amount of UAP
activity in our oceans, and as Congressman Carson, one of
the senior members of Congress, in my film reveals, they

(39:59):
have lots of ports of these craft coming out of
the ocean, and as he says, these aren't rockets and
not aircraft, there are other worldly things. He literally says
that on camera. And he's a very senior member of Congress.
He's on the House Intelligence Committee. He was on the
House Committee for the Central Intelligence Agency. Really smart, senior,
thoughtful guy.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
So there's there's a there there. There's a real situation,
and it's fascinating.

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would be reported to the public. Right there. The stigma

(41:34):
has worn off significantly. I mean the story about George
Bush and the ranch. I remember hearing about that, and
I also you talk. I believe I've watched so many
interviews with you and others in regards in regards to
Bush having a like a meeting, a private meeting. Should
we talk about this to the public. There's been suggestions

(41:56):
Trump will, but it can affect our economy and how
do you present it? But has there ever been privately
not discussed? Has there been a pilot shot down, a
ship attacked to that level of violence?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I haven't heard anything about an aircraft being shot down.
There are stories of events that happened in the past
of U A p causing seemingly intentional biological effects. There's
there's some historical events that happened in other countries where

(42:31):
UFOs seem to have intentional encounters with people and and
cause harm to them. But overall, there's not a lot
of those stories. The one of the big reveals in
the film, a senior in Telton's official hal putof reveals
that we have actually fired missiles at u a P

(42:53):
that that humans have and and obviously that's that's that's
it's a bit of a slippery slope and right, probably
not a great idea, right.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
The I'm interested going back to the retrieval programs that
our intelligence discovered that Russia had retrieved, because Russia, the
United States, and the US are the three countries that

(43:29):
we I think we broadly believe at least we have
access to their access. If you could talk about I
think it was in the late eighties, Dan, Yeah, again
a tic tac although larger than the one we saw
on the Pentagon footage. The Russia encounter or retrieval of

(43:52):
some note that has sort of changed their perception and
perhaps created their retrieval program and their program. All these
programs sound like they're being ramped up over the last
eighty years. Can we talk about the Russia invasion or.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Two of the two of the senior scientists who were
in my film who worked on UAP programs for the government,
they go on the record and say that that the
US government is aware of retrievals in Russia of UAP
and one of them, specifically hone in on was a

(44:29):
tic Tac shaped UFO UAP that was significantly larger than
the tic Tac UAP that the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group
encountered twenty years ago. The incident we know as the
tic Tac UFO, right, so much bigger than that, and
it was recovered in Russia. And apparently there was a
very advanced directed energy weapon in that craft. And yeah,

(44:54):
that's that's alarming that that kind of technology, you know,
has been in the hands of anavisarial nation since the eighties,
and it's not the only time it's happened.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
The suggestion that Trump perhaps would go public with the
acknowledgment of all this, what do you make of those reports?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
So people in the film reveal that there's been a
few occasions where a sitting president has contemplated going to
the microphone and telling the world the base facts that
they learned that we're not alone in the universe. There's
a story in the film about Bush two contemplating doing it.
One of the intellience officials in the film goes on
the record saying he was part of a think tank

(45:36):
that the Bush administrators put together to determine whether it
would be a good idea or not to go public,
and that their decision was not to do it. Obviously
at the time that was Bush two. There's another intelligence official,
very senior guy in the film who goes on the
record saying that during the first Trump administration, Trump contemplated
just sharing the base facts that he had learned that

(45:56):
were not alone in the universe, and that Secretary Menus,
who was the you know, Secretary of Treasury at the time,
all this intelligt's official in and asked him for a
briefing on the reality of the situation. And he explains
to this intelligent's officially, he said, the reason I'm asking
you is I want to be able to think about
what the economic repercussions will be if President Trump decides

(46:18):
the step to the microphone and tell the world we're
not alone. And and so these people in my film
reveal that this almost happened a couple of times. And
now I do think that this film sets the stage
for him to comfortably do that. I don't know if
he will choose to do it. Obviously, only he can
make that decision. But I think this film makes it,
you know, extremely clear to the average person that this

(46:41):
is a real situation, that there's real stakes, and that
the average American is owed some basic level of transparency
on this from the president. And so, you know, we'll see.
Time will tell if if he uses this opportunity to
comfortably step to the microphone and tell the world we're
not alone. It would certainly be one of the biggest
moments in human history if he did. But we will see.

(47:04):
I think it's only a matter of time though, before
a sitting president does decide to do that.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Dan far a director of producer Age of Disclosure. I
worked in Las Vegas as a sportscaster. Area fifty one
was understood and it was newsworthy at the time, and
over the course of about a two to three year period,
we had a reporter that was one of his beats
Area fifty one, Dan Burns, and the activity ramped up

(47:35):
substantially over about a two year period. Then stealth fighters
emerged from our country, and so as Dan in some
of his reporting, which was accurate, Many of the triangle
shaped lights seen over two to three year period was
the development of stealth. Bob Lazar made a name for

(47:56):
himself years ago. His background has sometimes not checked out.
Not a knock at Bob, but that's the reality. I
looked up his Wikipedia page for the first time ever.
So Area fifty one is something that gets discussed. I
thought one of the and all the moments were credible.
But James Clapper, who is now in his eighties, has

(48:18):
no reason to be involved in this at all. You know. Again,
this is because the stigma has to a large degree died.
But James Clapper came on and share it with the listeners.
Now he acknowledged, and I mean it was a real
moment where I went, Okay, time out James Clapper. He's
been with multiple White House, multiple presidents. Was that a

(48:41):
wow moment for that.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Was a significant wow moment for me and just you know,
for your audience. James Clapper was the Director of National Intelligence,
you know, the highest level position in the intelligence community.
He was the head of Air Force Intelligence, He was
the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, a number of
other other agencies. His resume reads like a Marvel character.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
It is.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
A ridiculous resume that no one else has, like uncomparable
resume and credibility and a very serious guy. And he's
in his eighties when I when I did the interview,
he was he was already in his eighties and at
the time, to give some other color to it, at
the time, his wife was was was was was battling

(49:30):
cancer and in her in her in her final days.
And and despite that, and despite being an amazing loyal
husband who was like there for her every day at
the hospital, he left the hospital to come do this interview.
And I really have a lot of respect for him
for doing that. He told me he thought it was
important to still do it. I remember, hey, should we

(49:50):
reschedule this, should we not do this today? And he
was like, no, this is important. Let's do it. And
he shared what he lawfully could. And one of those
big things he shared was that UAP activity over are
sensitive military basis and training sites is very real and
very active, especially he said, our ranges out west and
the west, the west side of the United States. And

(50:13):
he specifically said most notably Area fifty one. And that's
such a big statement because UAP activity UFO activity over
Area fifty one is widely considered you know, the epitome
of conspiracy, right, and like bullshit, Like your average person thinks, oh,
that's bullshit, that's there's nothing there, right, And here's this

(50:34):
extremely credible Intellien special who ran Air Force intelligence saying no,
that is real. That is a real situation. UFO activity
over Area fifty one is real. And I remember when
he said it, he said it so naturally, And then
there was a part of me that felt like he
was like, oh, why did I say that? You know,
there was I felt it like, oh, that came out,
but it's the truth, so it is what it is.

(50:56):
And and and he kind of put his head down
for a second and realized, you know, how significant what
he just said was. And in that moment, I turned
around to a couple other people that were in the room,
some other Intelllmence officials were there because they were going
to do interviews with me next. And I looked at
them and their jaws were on the floor because it's
such a big statement from a guy like that. And yeah,

(51:17):
I have a lot of respect for him for sharing
that with us, and I think he probably felt a
responsibility to share what he could.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
He also specific duty almost Yeah, he also.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Shared in that interview that despite the US Air Force
saying that they haven't had an active investigation to study
this stuff or investigate this stuff since the closure of
Project Blue Book, which we've all heard about, you know,
closed in the late seventies, and the Air Force has
consistently taken the position, even as recently a couple of
months ago, that they have not had a program to

(51:52):
investigate you AP since then. But Jim Clapper says on
camera on the record that when he was running Air
Force Intelligence, they did in to have a program to
investigate UAP. So he dropped some very significant statements in
the film, and I think he did us all a
service by opening our eyes to the truth that he
could share. And you know, the thing for everyone, remember

(52:14):
when they watched this film and they see these extraordinary
statements made by credible people, is this is just what
they can lawfully disclose. There's a whole lot more on
the other side of that line that you just have
to use your imagination and think about what could be there.
And that's a pretty that's a pretty wild thought. I've
I've spent a lot of time thinking about that and

(52:35):
if if these extraordinary bombshell statements. This paradigm shift information
they can lawfully disclose is so big and so significant.
What the hell's on the other side of that line.
What's the other stuff that they can't talk about?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Dan light theory would be is they are testing the reaction.
My theory is these including James Clapper, are testing the waters.
They are seeing the reaction. They're finding out that it's
it is now publicly credible, and that it's the it's

(53:10):
the first step of a second or a third evolution
of information and disclosure. That was my takeaway watching this,
which is what they're allowed to say, that they're they're
kind of putting everybody's foot in the water. Yeah, there
will be a second or a third evolution of this,
perhaps a president does that seem too random and too cons.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
That's one hundred percent of the case.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I called the movie the Age of Disclosure because as
I was making it, it became clear that this film
was the beginning of the Age of Disclosure, of a
period of time in which a lot of information will
come out. You know, it's not a it's not a
singular event. It's going to be a period of time

(53:59):
where we all slowly learn the reality of the situation,
and what I would suspect is on the other side
of that line is events like contact events and technological
advancements that sound like the stuff of science fiction, but

(54:21):
that have in fact been figured out.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I think that's where it goes.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Dan. I mean, have you noticed the timing About every
six weeks now there's a new piece of video which
which wasn't discovered within the month. I feel like stuff
is being leaked. There's a plan about every six weeks.
Every eight weeks there's another piece of video, the Yemen video.

(54:49):
I believe it was there where you see a high
speed craft, we shoot at it and it goes right
through its bubble or its force its field. I again
that sound. I'm not a co conspiracy theory person, but
it does feel like it's we're getting information parse to

(55:09):
us as it's almost like a guidebook. Okay, here's the
big documentary, here's senior officials, here's more video. That's what
it feels like to me.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Look, when I was making the documentary, at some point
in the process, early on, I realized that this film
I was making as a normal person outside of this world,
like trying to uncover what can lawfully be talked about
and learn the truth somewhere in that process it my
film became the vehicle for people in the know to

(55:44):
bring about disclosure, like it became a number of these
people's plan for disclosure, where people who are aware of
significant information wanted to find a way to disclose in
the public. They decided my film would be that that vehicle.
And then once that decision was made, I think a

(56:04):
lot got held for after the movie, and so the
movie coming out, I think is setting the table for
a lot more coming out is the simplest way to
say it. I really believe that to be true, and
in some cases I know for sure it to be true.
I mean, I know some people who are you know.

(56:25):
Jase Stratton, for example, is in my film. Jay Stratton
is the most senior intellience official to ever investigate UAP
and non human intelligent life for the US government. He
did it for sixteen years, like a like a real
life Molder from X Files. This was his job, right.
He was the director of the UAP Task Force, the
largest whole of government investigation at UAP. He when he retired,

(56:49):
he was a senior executive. He's a member of the
Senior Executive Services of the Defense Intelligence in c to
basically the civilian equivalent of a two star admiral. Extremely serious,
very credible guy. He reveals in the film that he
has seen non human beings and non human craft. He

(57:11):
reveals details like there were bodies recovered at Roswell, non
human bodies. He reveals where they were brought to. He
reveals how he uncovered the deeply hidden crash retrieval and
reverse engineering program and how they created obstacles for him
trying to get to the truth. He reveals a lot
of information. He's also got a book coming out early

(57:33):
next year that's his tell all memoir where he shares
even more. And then I know after the book comes out,
he's going to share even more after that. So a
lot of these people who participated in the film are
aware of so much information, and they're also aware of
how people digest information. Can't you can't you can't tell,

(57:53):
you can't share everything at the same time, it's just
too overwhelming, and I think the film plays a really
important role of establishing the lay of the land and
the base facts and who's involved and why it's complicated.
It answers basic questions the average person has, like why
has this been kept secret for so long? Why why

(58:14):
should it now be made more public? What are the
concerns we have to have? You know, all these basic questions.
The lay of the land. I think this film really
lays that out. And you know, it's a complicated situation
that's been going on for eighty years. But I'd tell you, Colin,
when I was making it, a big goal for me
was to make it digestible to the average person. And

(58:35):
I just kept thinking of my parents, who are in
their mid seventies and live in Jersey and are normal
middle class people, and you know, I just kept thinking, Okay,
at every turn making this movie, like is the information
going to be too overwhelming? It's gonna be too much?
Is it gonna be the kind of thing where you
watch it and then you can't remember anything because there's
just so much information? Right, And so it was really
important for me to make this film very digestible, easy

(59:01):
to understand, Like give the average person who doesn't know
anything about the situation a clear understanding the lay of
the land. They can walk away from this film and
really get it. You know, It's kind of thing you
could watch this film. You could tell your friends, Hey,
this is what I learned. It's this is this is
why we're in this situation. This is what's been going on.
These are the players, this is the pros and cons

(59:23):
of the situation. This is why we got to worry
about it. These base facts, And you know, I think
the response I'm seeing is that that worked and it's
really opening a lot of people's eyes and so so yes,
I think there will be more after that. Once people
understand the base facts and the lay of the land,
then then more can come out.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Yeah, you definitely landed. You landed it. Dan Farah, Director producer,
Age of Disclosure. Dan, where do I watch this if
I just popped into this and I'm not exactly sure
how to view it tonight?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Cool? So everyone in the world can watch the movie
on Prime Video. You do not have to have a
Prime subscription. You can just go to Prime Video. You
could rent it, you could purchase it. It's available in
every country around the world and with subtitles in every
major language. So I'd encourage ever to watch it and
tell their friends and family and join the conversation about
this issue.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
So appreciative of you taking time it's been really for me,
an attitude altering documentary. Thank you, and I think I'm
reasonably curious. I appreciate your work and your excellence and
your devotion to it. And Dan, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. The
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