February 21, 2025 • 49 mins
Rising LA rapper Big Eph sits down Live & Direct with Chuck Dizzle to discuss his journey throwing legendary parties in LA to making waves in the music industry; connecting with the likes of Ruby Rose, Ian Conner and Mike Will just by being in the right place at the right time. From songwriting to dropping his most recent single "Like You Love Me", Big Eph shares how persistence and confidence has helped him carve out a unique space in the scene as he builds his name in West Coast rap.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, we're back at it.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, it's been a long time coming, man, Chuck Dizzle,
back at it live in direct Man, Live and Direct
from the Real Nightty two three Studios, Los Angeles. All right,
keep it at home grown as we always do. And
I got I got a special treat. Got the homie
in the house.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I've been seeing him kind of go up for the
last couple of years. We linked up over at the
Leak Podcast. A look to the Leak Podcast. Man, he's
been going crazy over there. Shout out to Trap Trap La.
My god, big Eth is here.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Eth's going on? Bro?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Chuck?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Come on, I'm with the legend right here.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Now. You're making waves out in the city.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Bro, I've been seeing the movement, and first and foremost,
I'm just proud, you know what I mean. And based
off the conversation we were having over at the Leak Podcast,
you know, this is still kind of new to you, right,
you know what I'm saying, This is all new. But
the thing that I took from that conversation that we had,
it's like, Dude, this dude gotta a great head on
the shoulders.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know what I'm saying. So I really want to
just get to know you. Man, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't really know you too well. And I want
the people to know get to know you. You know
what I mean, because I know they hear the song
I'm saying, like you love me. It's going crazy right now.
First and foremost, how how is the response from that?
From what you expected from this stuff?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Hey man?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
It's like it's like an overflow right now, abundance right
now for sure. Like I don't know, Like when I
dropped it, I knew, I'm like, okay, all eyes on
me right now, you feel me? I had just uh,
I had just piggybacked it off of like the like
the drop with Me or RJ you Feel Me, and
like that was called b I T C A. So
like that went up in the city. So I kind
of like I knew, like everybody like was way like okay,
(01:38):
what he got next?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Like what he got? You know?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So I dropped that and the city actually just like
hopped them all back like you feel me. I feel like, yeah,
like they trusted me now like you feel me like
now like they like no, like okay, it's real like
so and I did that ship like good and I
did it at like the local landmark, like you feel
(02:01):
what I'm saying, Like, I did it like in the
city where I grew up at like you feel Me
on Slashings at the car wash.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I did the video there.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I got another like you feel Me hard young dope
artists from the city as well, named like look Cardi PG.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Everybody everybody familiar with him if you're from the city
for sure, and you Yeah, he's an artist in his
own right. And that was one of the things that
we were talking about, how he kind of inspired you
to kind of get back to it as well, like
you guys kind of inspired each other.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So yeah, I want to I want to talk about
that conversation as well, man, because you know, as an
artist that's coming up, you know you're gonna have ups
and downs. You're gonna have moments where you kind of
want to give up or just feel like, man, I'm
not really making any way, so I don't know what's
going on, right, And when you get that inspiration, you
keep going.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You know, you see the abundance of the love. You
know what I'm saying. Now, let's take it back though.
Who is Big ef Man? And how'd you get the name?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And I know you probably answered this on on platforms before,
but I want to get to know you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Man, did you get the name? How'd you get into music?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
How did it all start for you?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
All Right, so let's take it all the way back
to like twenty sixteen. Give me a fresh out of
high school. I'm not really knowing what I want to
do next. For me, I did not grow My life
long dream was to be in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Rap?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, like when you were like when you five sevent
it just it just like you know, yeah. So anyways,
moving on from that, like I just didn't know what
was next, you know what I'm saying. Everybody had that
moment where they like they just trying to figure it out.
They don't know what's going on. So a lot of
my peers were in the studio, so I was going
with them, but I wasn't really like hopping on the
songs making music. I slowly like got into it started
(03:35):
with ad libs, like hopping on my homies ad libs.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And this is based off of people because and I'm
just assuming, right, and I could be wrong, right, But
you seem like you have a lot of charisma, a
lot of energy, so people probably just gravitated to you
exactly like hey, come to the studio. We need we
need to vise right right. So from that, it's like, yo,
hop on this real quick, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
So from that, like I was, I was literally the
guy that brought the girls to the studio, girls and
alcohol and all after the studio sound you know, That's
that's who I was. Then like it was actually an
engineer one of my homies didn't do a libs at all.
My engineer was like, mana sound crazy on this shit,
screaming or doing whatever. I got the move heard myself,
I'm like wow.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So that was literally the first time I actually.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Ever heard myself on the mic anything was doing somebody
a libs and I heard it. I'm like, dang, it's
like the hardest part of the whole song. Like to me,
it wasn't to everybody else who was too. So from
there I made my own song. It went crazy you
feel me, I didn't drop or anything, but like to
me and my peers, it was like, oh funny, you
feel made a song like you know, so it was
tight And then like when I dropped my first song,
(04:37):
you for You. It took me like two three years
to drop a song by myself and just really like
actually push it and stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So you recorded it, held.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
On to it, listened to it, and never dropped it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Played it for yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What was the moment that you said, Okay, I need
to actually upload this and let the world receive this.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
So I actually made like ten to thirteen songs after
that song Wow, and then that fourteenth song I rout
that one. All them other ones are throwaways. I've never
I'm probably never gonna ever go so.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
These are They're not any anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
This is only in your arsenal, Like nobody's ever heard
this aside from.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like close people.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yes, exactly, Wow, So son of but fourteen is the
first one that's not Euphoria, right, that is you for You?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So son but fourteen was Euphoria. And that's the one
that you uploaded.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yes, Wow, uploaded to all DSPs. Went crazy. It got
a great response, Like in the first like two days,
it had like ten thousand plays like on Apple Music alone.
So I saw I knew I'm like okay, because I
was always somebody in the city like I was always
that guy that had cool parties. You know, I had
a nice car when I was sixteen, it was a
(05:40):
lot of stuff going on to where I was just
a cool guy like and then I like like my
parties were legendary, like you know what I'm saying. As
far as like people like in my generation, everybody know
who I am just off of the fact like of
like us being outside and I was always like one
of the for me, I'll say, like the most like
you know, like main faces outside, Like you know what
I'm saying. So I kind of like build like a
(06:02):
friendship with a lot of people in the city. Like
that's why everybody in the city feel like right now
they like my homies and they know me because they
really do, Like you know what I'm saying, I was
really outside of everybody, so it's just tight. So yeah,
I uploaded that and then still I was just ef.
I was I was just e p H.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But this is this is you creating the demonica. The
name is short for something or no.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
My name is Ephraim.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Why did I I figured that?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I'm like, what, what's the name?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So it's no, Okay, I'm wondering if this eph stand
for something. Big is the name, so you've always been
going by.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
That, I've always saw like I was a big chief
Key fan, so I went by chief Ef all the
high school. Yeah, so so like like LA knew me
as cheap like you know. So then I grew out
of that. Then I was just I'm like, man, I'm
not I'm myself.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Then fast forward, I started working with UH, like this
female artist, you know, and I started writing for UH
and stuff like that. So we were hanging out and
like like she used to always like like say like, oh,
like I'm going big on everybody, like oh yeah, like
(07:18):
like yeah, like I just went big on him, like
da da da. I'm like yeah, I'm big eve man,
I'm about to go big on people so bull so
like yeah. From there, like I just stuck with that name.
And then I dropped a single In twenty twenty two,
I dropped a single with like maybe like five other
of my homies on the song, and we were called
(07:41):
the Nation. And so from there we threw parties like
like that's.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
What we did. We didn't rap nothing, We threw parties.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Like cre called the Nation.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, So now, and that's the party crew that formed
into kind of like the brand at the time, right exactly.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
So it's so it's the twins Tyan Kenney, So those
are my bros. Like, so they had like in a
cult like little following fan base, little family type thing
going on right to where everybody's like like one, everybody's one.
So it's like when we throw a party, we all
got at least fifteen twenty people coming. It's it's a
(08:15):
core of about twenty people, like you know what I'm saying.
So it's the nation, like you know. So we came
out with a song and I kind of like made
all the guys in the group hop on the song
because I'm the because I'm the only one.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That rap really right at the time at the time, like.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I'm the only one that's like really like I can
me rapping. It's another guy that was even really rapping
in the group. And it's crazy how we were we
started out in this group, and that's go Leaky.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So Leaky is another I was going to ask you
because he's he's on some of your earlier projects. All
he's pretty much I want to say him, you got
four projects and every every single project.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right, So I was going to ask you that relationship
between you and m so it stems from that.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
It's there for back then we were we were just
going up together. He was the young buck. He was
like twenty, I think something like that, Like he was
the young one. So booth from there, like we I
made everybody come to the studio, and of course we
get a party at the studio. So it's about maybe
like fifty people at the studio, some some like some
actual big dogs in there too, like you feel me
Like we was just vibed out through like when we
(09:18):
turned the beat on, shot out r J on the beat. Yeah,
we I go in the boat. I kind of like
set the tone. I'm like Nation business, keep banging the anthem,
put up and coops. You know, we came to Slimmers
just want to ship. You see the name on the banners.
We get every we don't buy manners. Hey I'm big.
If I get chili, I'm chilly. I'm in the big
black range with me and Kenny. So yeah, from there
(09:40):
it just went like the it was like everybody knew
the words that night, like and they went up and
we posted it. We kind of fumbled the back and
we waited a long time to like actually posted posted.
We were just performing it at all of our party,
so everybody in the city knew that song. And from
there me and he kind of like look at each
(10:01):
other and was like, yeah, like like let's go up
like you feel me, so we kind of like you
feel me? Yeah, I did that. After that, I dropped
two three tapes they all went up, and then after
that last tape I dropped. I dropped that single b
I T C CH with RJ. And then from there
kind of like that's where I seem like separation.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Now we were we were again when we had this conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
One of the things I want you to to let
the audience know about too, is how in the process
of you dropping these projects, you got four of the
first of all, I want I'm gonna go through each project,
say the name, and I want you to just give
me a kind of just a short synopsis of what
the project means to you, what the title was about,
and we'll go from each one. But in this conversation
we were having, you noticed that each time that you
(10:44):
drop it, just the movement kept getting bigger and kept
getting bigger. The down loads kept going up, the streams
kept going up, and that's kind of what gave you
the conference to be like, oh damn, I got something
to say, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So let's start off with I thought I was late,
all right?
Speaker 5 (10:57):
So thought I was late was like a very like
distinct time of my life because that's again a time
where I didn't know what was next, what I was doing.
I had just recently got out of a big lawsuit
with an artist because I was a songwriter.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
First.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Okay, wait, look, okay, how does how does that happen?
Because not not the lawsuit, and I guess we can
get into that. Well, we don't even have to get
into that, but you in terms of like getting in
that right you you you do? I want to go
from the ad libs you've been in the studio doing
ad libs from somebody to then becoming an important business
(11:32):
part of it, you know, as far as the writing.
A lot of people when when they when they get
into this business, they go to the artistry and they
don't realize that the money's in the bag and there writing.
So how did you get to know that before? I'm
assuming before you dropped your first project, before So how
does that, How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You know what I'm saying it was that? Was that
a conscious thought or was it like, oh damn, I
just kind of stumbled up on this.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
It was God just a thout wow, Like you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
So when I dropped that first song, Euphoria that, uh,
I believe I was writing right before I d before
you right, yeah, cause.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You mentioned you said you were you were writing. I
don't know if you said for somebody, but that's how
the whole the Big name came. You said big because
you're going big on somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So at that moment, were you writing for people at
that point or so?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Let me let me tell you this. So because I
did like skip that point.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Come on if I'm like, hold on right now, bro?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
All right, looks.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Look, so when I first started like hopping on the
ad libs and all that, people was gassing it hard,
like they was gassing it, like bro, I'm telling you,
like they said forget the song.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We like that was crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
And at the time I was hanging out with Ian
Connor every day, I was hanging out with uh you
feel me like John Ross like that whole wave. I
was hanging out with Playboy Cardi. She said, before I
was a rapper, before I touched them like anything on God.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Like, how are they?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But how are these relationships being started? Cause people just
don't stumble into rooms mothers.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Like man bro To be honest, God just had his
hand on me all the time?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Who had I can't explain it because it would just
sound like, oh, everything's an accident.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Give me it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Just give me one example, because I hear you and
I understand it, and I even shared with you before
we got on all right, I'm like, this is guy's
timing for me, you know, get back in the studio
doing an interview. So let's just choose Playboy Cardi for
an example. How did you meet Playboy card.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I met Playback Cardi through Ian Connor. I met Ian
Connor because we were on Fairfax one day. And you know,
if you're on fair in fact, you're gonna see somebody.
I'm like eighteen. You know what I'm saying. I'm a
thirsty little kid that's trying to find somebody to meet.
Like you know what I'm saying, I have nothing to do.
My friend has a car. We're in the car all
day riding around Fact. We're riding around fair Facts all day.
(13:46):
We just so happened to be hungry.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
We park and we go to the little sushi restaurant
right there. I forgot what this car. He bounces out.
I bounced out. My other friend bounces out.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
My friend has on a Palace shirt, so Palace as
a brand, and they had a specific drop that only
dropped in London. My friend had that jacket on. I
had on a really nice fit that was supreme. Like
we were just like not hype beats, but we knew
how to dress back then, like you know what I'm saying.
(14:17):
So we had it on like you know what I'm saying.
And then Ian hopped out a black truck Ian Connor
and walked up and immediately like just was like what
what y'all got on him?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
He had the pants on to my friends jacket.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Got you, which is only in London.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So he like.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
He's seen the car we just hopped out of. He
like what the heck is going on? Like he don't know?
Like so boom from there, Like we just.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Was like, bro, can we come here?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Can we go there with you?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
He took us to a Playboy Cardion in lil Uzi
Vert concert in twenty seventeen. Yeah, twenty seventeen, and from
there bros A rap like So that's how I first
like seem like damn, like you could really be a star,
not not be like globally known. Like I'm like, these
these men are rich, like you know what I'm saying.
(15:08):
They selling tickets and selling our shows with four hundred,
five hundred people in each ticket fifty dollars and they taking.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
All the money.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah, like they do nobody themselves. So I'm thinking, I'm
just my brain start clicking after that, so boom. I
so yeah, so I'm so fast forward from that day.
Now we're just in the mix now, like you know
what I'm saying, We're in the mix. We going to
the little parties and the little underground events, were doing
the whole little thing. Like my friend was real close
(15:35):
with Little Yachty. So we fly to Atlanta for about
a week. It's our first time finding out there. And
I'm not gonna like spill beans, but just know we
was broken. We didn't pay for a plane tickets. We
still find a way to hop on the plane and
get out there. That's all I'm gonna say. So we
get out there and we get to Atlanta. We freelancing.
We have nowhere to stay nothing. We just want to
(15:56):
go see who we can see out there. We freelancing.
We see a couple of people. The long story short,
that mission was burnt. We've seen people, but we didn't.
Nothing happen right, and we were stuck out there boom So,
the same way we got out there, it took us
like a couple of hours to get a ticket back.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
So we get back to La finally and we are
in the hotel. Were in the hotel room. We're just chilling,
not doing nothing. We've been back for two days. We're
just chilling in the hotel for like two days. Then
like one day, we're playing my song on the speaker.
Mind you, it's one of them fourteen.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Songs, say, one of those, one of the very few songs.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That you got, one of the very few before I
drop you for you, one of the very few. We're
playing that song.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Just for yourselves because it's not on streaming anywhere.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
We're playing it on the JBL speaker in the studio,
I mean inside the hotel room, playing two K his girlfriend,
my homies girlfriend is on the bed on the phone
with Ruby Rose.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
She she hears my song in the background and says,
who is that?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Who is that?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
End? And I.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Ruby Rose on the phone asking who the song is.
I run to the phone like yeah, like you feel
like yeah, that's me. Like she like, bro, like I'm
in the studio right now, like it's that song out.
I'm like no, She like can I have it? She
I'm like yup, And she's like, Okay, I'm about to
send you a black truck. She sends she she's boss
(17:22):
at this point. You know what I'm saying. She sent
me a black truck from the hotel to her studio
that she's asked. She was starting to hit her at
the time. She obered me to hit Corde and yeah,
from the from there it was a rap. Bro.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
She cut that ship. She cut a couple of more things.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
But that's how that relationship started. And that's how you
kind of saw.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
One thing that I that I'm impressed by that you
saw early on is kind of like not not even
full details, but how the business works, right, And like
you said, you don't have to be the main character
to be the main character, and kind of like structuring,
how you handled your bit, how you I would assume
handle your business moving forward. Was that one of those
(18:02):
encouraging things for you, knowing like, oh okay, damn, I
can maneuver my way this way versus because again, I
run into a lot of artists and they seem to
kind of have it backwards in terms of like thinking
they have to be signed or thinking they have to
do X, Y and Z on order to be honest, like, no,
you build your own community or link with the right
people and get your bag up this way. There's different
(18:23):
ways to make it work. There's no one clear way
to get this thing going. So for you when you
found that out, was that more motivation be like Okay,
this is the route that I want to take or
was it just a hobby and you just kind of
just stumbled up on it? He was like, Okay, it's
something I can just get money on.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
To be honest, I wasn't thinking about money at all
because I didn't know you can. I still I'm still
ignorant to everything. Gotcha, I know nothing about nothing. Me
even saying yes to you had a song, I'm still
not knowing nothing because in my head I'm like, sure,
I'm never gonna drop it, like I don't even know
how to drop it. Like so I'm not thinking nothing.
I'm just thinking in my head like, Okay, she wants
this song, it's gonna be cool. I get to be
(18:58):
with her for a little bit, like you feel me,
she gonna gonna cut the record and she might start rapping,
like and so.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You're not even thinking about relationships in turns of in
terms of oh man, I can build and you know,
maybe this can help my career.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's just like, oh, well, I got a couple of songs.
I'm not gonna use him.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Here she go, Like, you know, bro, it was more
of my homie, like he was still in the process
of installing in my head the art of like like
he was installing into me like like like that because
I knew I was somebody, but I didn't know what
to do with So I feel like he knew what
(19:34):
he wanted to do, but he knew I had every
single piece of the puzzle that he needed. So I
feel like he was more so working through me and
I at the time that was his like desire, his wants,
So I didn't really like I wasn't like aware of it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But it really.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
When I seen how excited she was to like to
cut the record and to have that record, and how
pay I was, how we got through it and all
that shit like that, Like I feel like that's when
like I realized, like, dang, I'm actually good at this too,
because everything I start to do and like, I feel
like I'm good at it. But then it'd be like
(20:12):
a certain click of certain things when I was like, Okay,
I like this, So it was just like a self
reflection type of thing, like nobody could have made that
happen but me, Like you know what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
My mind shifted a little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Like I'm like, I'm like, damn, like I'm looking around
at the studio really like I'm just looking at the studio.
I'm looking at the fact that I don't have enough
money to uber myself and you ubered me. I'm looking
at the fact that like like like my homie is
in the studio with us, trying to say shit to
like like my homie is in the studio with us,
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trying to like say lines like you know, like trying
to like pitch in and like she don't like what
he said.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
She like what I'll say, like so all that's all
that's coming to my brain.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I'm like, man, i got all these other songs like
now I'm just pulling up stuff for like well you
like this like this, like this and everything is yes,
I'm like, man, like what's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
So from there, like she she flew me out to Atlanta,
and yeah, she flew me out to Atlanta. She put
me in a w hotel.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Wow, and like you know, like just seeing all that
coming from nothing, of course it's gonna like you know,
like of course it's.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Going to something.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, so I'm just seeing a lifestyle that I'm seeing,
like Atlanta, like I've never been. I've never been to
the East Coast. So it was just a lot that
played a part in that time. And then like right
after I got back from Atlanta, well no, let me
stay Atlanta real quick. So while I'm in Atlanta, bro,
like you have to imagine like Ruby Rose just dropped
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her first song and she went viral off it like
it changed. It didn't change her life, So like you
got to think about everybody in Atlanta wants to work
with her right now, you know what I'm saying. And
guess who she's with right, yeah, and like every room,
like I get this to her own God, every room
she took me in and I was in the room
with Mike.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Will CARDI b uh thug like a lot of people.
I met a lot of people in that week. Like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
So it's about default you getting that same access.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
But I'm getting the access that I even asked for it.
She she literally is walking in the room telling them, oh, yeah,
this is the best song writer in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So imagine that coming from nothing. You're nothing, You're not
a rapper or sorry or nothing.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
But now you're in all these rooms with your favorite
rappers as the best songwriter in the world.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Damn, and you're getting put in a fire. Yeah you
know what I'm saying. And you're really producing.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm not saying in those moments when you get thrown
into the fire, is it is it clicking for you?
Did Did you have moments who were like damn, I
fucked up?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Or was it just like knocking out the part, like
knocking out the park like like bro like like Mike
Will sat there for and talked to me and like
spend knowledge at me and wisdom at me. For two
hours bro for real fool, Like, that's a legend. That's
somebody that I looked up to since I was a jit,
like in real life. So just like getting all that sauce,
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comes back to the land and ain't seeing like how
like I already got motion myself out here without even
doing nothing?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It's yeah, it was like a why not moment? And
then yeah, so then I you affiliate like it grew
to be my first love.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Like so then so you know, so I want to
go back to the projects. I thought it was like that.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So this all happens before you drop that, right, Yes,
all this happened before. So now you get the sauce,
You get all this, you get this motivation. It's like,
oh okay, I need to text you releases. I thought
it was late, give us a quick breakdown of that
album that that time period and uh, you know the
title in itself.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
So saying all that I that I just said, I'm
twenty four at the time. Twenty yeah, I'm twenty four
at the time when I dropped that, So like when
you're twenty four now that like now looking back, I'd
be like you was dumb, like, like why are you
thinking like that, but I was thinking in my head
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like damn, like I'm getting old, like.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Like right, like you know, like that's a dumb thought.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
But you when you see, like when I'm around like
people from the age of eighteen to twenty four, that's
a six year gap, right, So in six years I
was broke. I stayed broke for six years, like you
know what I'm saying. From eighteen out of high school
till I was twenty four, I stayed broke. So imagine
you seeing every every other day one of your peers
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or somebody younger than you was getting rich. So but
you're around it every day and you're not like an
axe like me. Yeah, like you're not like you feel
me like I'm gonna hold my own. So imagine that
for six years straight, like you kind of like want
it bad, like you like it's like even if you
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don't naturally like have the instinct to like be materialistic
and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Like that, like you can't help it.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
At a certain point, like you're gonna.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Stand out if you not on that exactly, like you
know what I'm saying, and then it's really gonna be bad.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Like it's like going to a restaurant seeing everybody eat,
everybody eat, everybody's sitting there like no food.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You know what I mean, Right, I get it. I
get it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
So it made me want to just go, you know,
eat like you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so
I drop you for you. And when I drop you
for you, I got a good response. So I'm like, Okay,
maybe I'm not too late to join the like you
feel me to join the I'm sorry, but like to
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join the the next what do you call it the
next class?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And so speaking specifically like in hip hop or is
it just like just the eighteen to twenty six crowd.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
At the time, it wasn't nobody older than twenty five
getting on Like that's just what it was for that
like like look like for that little year, if you
was older than twenty five, nigga, it.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Was it was.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
It was bad news for you if you wasn't Drake,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Of course, nowadays, like you gotta remember, like shit changes
every day, so you don't know, like you feel me,
never give up, but I know that now. But yeah,
it was getting to a pointed time where I was
in the dark place. I didn't know what's going on?
All that shit that I was telling you about how
I was in Atlanta came back to the dice and
that nigga, I was going through a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I was going through a lawsuit off of some of
that stuff, and yeah, I was. I was sad.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Gotcha, like you feel me like because I'm like, damn,
I'm broke. This is how much you were supposed to
pay me. You didn't pay me this, gotcha, gotcha. It
was just a lot where I'm or I'm in my
head where I'm like damn, like in my leg now,
like I have to find me a new career.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Now that I got to go back to working under
what do I gotta do?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Then later so later on that year, you dropped the entry,
right all right? So well what about the entry? What
changed or did anything change between?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
The first project thought I was late to the entry.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
So right after I thought I was late, I was
like I got like reconfident like again, like so I'm
so I'm super confident again.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I'm outside, I'm popping out.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I'm still with the nation, like you know, we're doing
our big one now like and I'm having fun and
is that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Bab I'm sorry to cut you off. But is that
based off the response from l gosh.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay, so you and your feelings and your thoughts feeling
about this right you drop it get.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
A response you's like, oh, I actually really really am
him because.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
It was like a diary too.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
It was like I'm like, you know, like the stereotype
about about like how men like don't express their feelings. Well,
when you got that pen and you got that mic,
that shit is easy, bro. So yeah, I kind of
like got got it out, like I got it out
of my spirit, got it out of my system.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
So and then from there I met Twin and then
so when so, so Twan is a Los Angeles mogul
when it comes to like.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Like being a good person, when it comes to putting
a stamp uh in the city, and when it comes
to just being like and when it comes to like
being like for the people, like you know what I'm saying.
So I met Twin and like from there, like it
was like instant like okay, like what we gonna do
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with this? Like you know, So it was it was
like so we had the entry. I had already had it,
like I was already like recording because I record a lot.
So I was already kind of like piecing together like
how I wanted to do it, what I wanted to do,
and I was getting all my features.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I was, you know, I was just I was.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I was working my program, like you know what I'm saying.
I was trying to figure out, like how much pull
do I got?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Like what can I do? And then you feel me,
I did like I did my thing by myself. And
then I feel like.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
With me doing my thing and with me pressing twine
so much about like being like my manager, I feel
like like I became a new person as well, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So, wait, did you originally approach me? And he didn't
want to manage you at first? That's how I went
at first. Did he not want to manage you at first?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
He did not want to manage me? He wanted to,
but from his previous artist, he was already scared to
manage you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, which makes sense.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I don't know. You want to say something about that?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Give him my Twana's in the studio with us righting
now as well. So what was it about big Ef Dad?
You say, all right, yeah, I'm gonna get back to it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It was his persistence. He played some records for me
and I actually liked the music. Okay, So it was
it wasn't too much of me not wanting to manage him.
It was just like you said, past traumas dealing with
individuals you know that wanted to do the same thing
that he does and it just didn't work out. So
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I just went back to what I do, and that's
throw clubs and just serve others. Yeah, the management, I
was just in bed. So when he wanted me to
work with him, I say, listen, man, you're gonna get
me up. You gotta make good music. I gotta listen,
and we gotta go crazy. And he did all of
that and we're here now.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's a true testament of who you are as an
artist and an individual, and it also leads up to
the next project. Yeah, I said it. You know what
I'm saying, Like we're here and that we're here, like
I love going through the story now. So it's like
the confidence wasn't there at first? You drop your shit, damn. Okay, Yeah,
now I'm here. I'm at the entry. I'm at the entry.
I'm at the entry point. I'm actually I'm not late
and now you know you you you reach now showing
(30:47):
you don't ask for handouts, but you realizing like, oh wait,
I do have resources. I'm the guy in the city.
Let me just tap into those resources and see what
can come from it. You deliver another good project and
as you were telling me in the back, around streams
and things continue to go up. All right, yeah, I said, okay,
a little confidence is now here exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
So it's like that title stands for itself, like yeah,
I said it, like I'm in here now and I'm
not quiet like you know how when you first kind
of like the new person in the door when they
come in the door, they gotta fill the room that
they're like nah, yeah, So that's straight like that. So
from this, from like those three, I was being real
vulnerable with like with like my audience, you know what
(31:26):
I'm saying. So it's like thought. I was like, so
imagine you thought you was late to the party, like
you feel me. Booms, we get to the party. Now
it's the entry like you feel me. You you of
course got Bubba Gus walking in this door because you
don't know who in his door, like you know what
I'm saying. But my busting over. Yeah, I said it,
like you know, and then I got a great response
from y'all said it, and that's when I knew I'm okay,
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finally got your attention.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And I'm gonna tell you right there.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
One of my favorite songs from you, and it happens
to be on that project is go Through It, And
it was. What was wild is because you had this
big personality. You have this confidence which is clearly displayed,
like even when I see you, when I when I
first met you, like you have this humbleness about you,
but on records you're talking.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know what I'm saying, you talking your shit. But
it's that's why I say you have a.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Good head on your shoulders because you know how to
you know how to balance that and go through it.
You were it was a balance between manifesting the things
that you want and then at the same time, like
being in a place that you are talking about what
you want and talking about like the success that you
have seen, but at the same time the things that
you do want and and and really taking accountability for yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
So it's like I love when the artist taps into
that because to.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Me, there's no amount of money there's no amount of
materialistic things that can show the true inside of somebody.
And I feel like with that particular song, it was like, Yo,
I'm bearing all my thoughts. I'm still I'm still him,
and I still have these thoughts.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I think you said something about don't I had to
quote in front of me, but it was something to
the effect of I'm just gonna pay for I know
I have it wrong, but I make mistakes, so I
go through it, or something to that effect, but how
just believing in myself and understanding like I can do it.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I forgot what it was.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I pull it up in a second, but that was
just one of the where I was like, Damn, I
love that he said that, because I know there's a
lot of people.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Include myself, that go through that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You can achieve all these things, but at the same time,
you still those moments are like, Damn, I'm the only
one that's in control of all this shit, good, bad,
and different or whatever. I can't place any hater blame
on anybody else. I have to take account beating for myself,
and I think the moment you start tapping into that
that's when you start seeing more things kind of work
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out in your favor, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, So for that video, So I actually did a
video to that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I didn't even see it for real.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah, I did a video to that, and I did
it at my birthday party last year.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And so yeah, like that was a special video for me,
a special time in my life. Like I really I
like that song. That's like with the song that hit
home for me because I had my mom, I had
my dad in that video.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I had like a couple of rappers in that video. Yeah,
I had my grandma on that video.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Like I just I just really wanted to get that
one off my chest for sure, because like like you said,
like that one, like it meant more like I took
my time with it.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I don't write my music, but I wrote a little
bit of that, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Like, so, no, I'm like my city, I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
No.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I was just thinking about that song now because it
was a good time.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
But I know I love that man. It just it
felt it felt like a vulnerable spot on the project.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
You know what I'm saying. It sounded different than any
other songs, and that's still one of my standards. I
like that one a lot. But that brings us to
light my City, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
That the latest project that we had from you, which
by the way, yeah I said it was in twenty
twenty four, and then the same thing for like my
City one was dropped in what March and in August.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Okay, so tell us about lighting my City now? Now
again the plays.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Is getting up there, the strangers getting up there, everything
is enhancing, and you know, I think the title speaks
for itself.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
But tell us your vantage points from so.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, well, light in My City that was like the
first one where I'm like, okay, like I'm not new
to this, I'm true to this, Like you know what
I'm saying. So I'm in the door, I'm talking about
you know, I'm talking about talk and everybody listening, so
you feel me. And then like with that being said,
like with everybody listening, they understand me. And like a
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lot of the times, like when I be talking, bro,
like I'll be talking to talk. I talking to myself too,
so hearing what I'll be saying sometimes people be so
real that I'll be going I'll just go straight and
just listen to myself. I just you feel me because
some stuff I say I don't do but me but
like me saying it makes me go do it.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's a reminder.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. So I just
reminded myself and I remind other people that don't know that.
I like I shine bright, like real, real, real bright.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
So has that always been your personality? From jump?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Though? Like? Is it?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Have you always been this big personality from jump?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
From the jump?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Really? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
From the jump?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So is it it's no surprise that you are in
this type of business because I'm curious. You said the
basketball thing, but was there anything else that you were like,
all right, well if this doesn't work out, I'm gonna
do this or did you have a path if music
wasn't it, what was the path for Big Eve?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
So before I was like like while I was in
high school, I was always it was my dreams also act.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
So yeah, so I got signed to uh Sack.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
After I was in the I was in the Union,
and I was doing my thing and now I was
extras and grown ups a couple of movies. Yeah, I
was doing my acting thing and I just always wanted
the main road because I'm you know, I feel like
I was tired.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I wanted to be on Disney all that.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I got a main character syndrome.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Man, I did like a thousand Are you only kid?
I have two big sisters, but I grew up as
the only kid. Okay, I never lived with them really
for sure. My sister actually married a Nigeria prince. Wait
what Yeah, and they own their own airline and all that.
That's randomness, head, that's crazy, right, Do.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You have a relationship with her? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Like we're cool.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Okay, yeah, Because I'm just thinking like if I mean.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Like, man, I would have been so much different, say,
like you, if we was locked there were we supposed
to be locked in life.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
You would have been trying to fly to Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Man, what I wouldn't have been trying to find my
way back right damn.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So, So with this, with all this being said, man,
through your trials and tribulations and success and things that
you've seen, Man, what what advice could you give to
somebody that's that's going going through it right now? Because again,
you you're seeing a lot of love from from where
you're at, right But the twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
even like earlier in the journey big Ef, what advice
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would you give to yourself? But then another artist that's
kind of like man just starting up, trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
All right, Look, so I'm gonna just say this, and
I might sound weird, it might sound like too scientific
or whatever, but look, when when each of us was born,
the spirit of fear, the chemical fear, the chemical reaction
of fear, it was not installed in our body.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
It's something that we grow and we learn. We learn
to be scared, we learn to have fear.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Like, so like, stop being scary, yeah, stop being fearful
of your dreams, stop being scared to go do what
you want to do, because like, like like it's a
lot of stuff out there that we don't even know
that we like, there's a lot to about that we
don't even know that we're capable of, and we're never
gonna fulfill it if we're too scared to go try
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something or go do something, or go get up or
go do this, or I'm too lazy to go here
or like you know, so I've just been I've just
been telling everybody that I come across like, man, if
you feel led to go do something and you having
second thoughts about it, like it's not always like bad
and that's not always like your gut feeling telling you
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like to not go or something like that, like sometimes
you just got to go because you know, like that
could be like a bad spirit or the devil or
something trying to feel me stay you away from your blessings.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Do you got kids?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
No reason why I bring that up is because I
I'm a I classify, classify myself and I'm getting out
of it. But I overthink a lot, right, But watching
my sons, especially my youngest one, no fear. It's like
they just wake up and just go about their business.
And you're right, we as parents, you know, because that's
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the first people that they're around, we project all of
this stuff on.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Even something as.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Early today, Hey telling my son, Hey, go get your jacket.
I want you to get sick when you're outside you
want to play, you know what I mean? And of
course I want to protect them, but some of these,
some of these things, I have to hold back in
what I tell him because I don't want to plant
that fear in them, like I don't want him to
think that every time he gonna go outside he could
get sick.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
So but growing up you hear that, you say, you
feel my mom the same way, But like when I
go outside, cause back here, I don't get sick, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
So it's like mom was wrong with like nah, but
like yeah, like I feel that. That's deep.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, man, it's so that's just a reminder, like you know,
be that they say, be like kid like in nature
when it comes to stuff like that, because it's like you,
like you said, there's no fear in that and you
never know what blessings could come from that. Now obviously, yeah,
you want to be protected and all that, like you'll
just be randomly doing some you know, erratic shit, But
there's there's a lesson.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
You always can learn a lesson through the kids. And
I always say that too.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Man, I'm learning to live life through the lens of
a child because of my kids. You know what I'm
saying things that I take for granted. You know, it's
my kids first time seeing it, you know what I'm saying.
Like we're walking outside the other day and myself the moon, like,
oh my god, the moon I've seen the moon about
forty years in my life. I don't give it damn
about the moon, but it's it's the most amazing thing
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to them because it's like, oh my god, it's the
so like little stuff like that. Being a father has
really like shown me to again, like to your point,
B be more kid like man and enjoy embraceist journey
in life and take the time to kind of like,
you know.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Not not act like you know it all, you know,
because there's there's a blessing in that. And this brings
me to my point.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
And I don't know if this is the name of
your company or.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
If it's one is affiliated with this, but Endless Blessings
LLC is that the name of the company?
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yep, I got the LLC.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Okay, that's your company? Why endless Blessings? I like that
name all right.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
So my name Ephraim means double blessing, fruitful.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
And I was raised at Krinshaw Christian Center, so you
for me, I had the the opportunity to be taught
by the late doctor Frederick Casey Price even me and
I uh, I don't know, I just I just always
like I just always thought to myself like okay, like however,
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big I get wherever I'm going whatever, like you feel
me like I'm about to have guidance like in the mix,
like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
So I.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
And like even saying this right now, like you know,
like this can stop some doors, but I don't give
a damn like you know what I'm saying like this,
like that's what I'm on like as like just as
far as like you know how they say like oh,
just like don't talk about God too early than like
like I don't like, I don't care about none of
So the name of my corporation is inless blessing. I
wanted the kid because my name is a from Bowden.
So the abs of my sign is like the Bugatti sign,
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but instead like in the middle, it's an infinity sign.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
So it's in this blessing.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
So I already had my logo already had to tatt
it on me. I'm like, okay, how can I incorporate this?
So it's like in this blessing, my name is double blessed.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
It all just call that. I made that before I
started rapping. I made that. I was also make that
like a clothing brand.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
That's crazy. I love that, man. It shows how everything's
full circle, which brings me to this.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
You know, you got the song that's going up right
now like you love me? What's next for Big Ef?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Man?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Is there an album coming? Project? I mean, because you
know you ain't drop nothing, and you know some months
since since August? Bro, what we're doing? Man? What's up
for twenty twenty five for Big Ef? Bro?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
So?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Look, so I just got worried the other day. Alright.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
So, look so me and Twine been having like this
little battle, right we've been We've been trying to figure
out what's next, you know, because I got a want
and he has a one.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
But his want is like a necessity. My want is
like a right now, like this is how I feel
right now?
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Can you share what that is that you want to
keep that between you guys?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
All right?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
So, look, so I got this tape card for Lover's War, Okay, right,
And that's the tape that me and I'm working on
for like the past like six seven months. We've been
going crazy with this tape. It's almost perfected. It's about
like ninety percent done. It's a beautiful tape, it's not
correlating into what I've been showing so far.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
It's like it's like a new evolution.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
So me personally, I feel like I'm just not getting
my feet wet, so and I don't know if I'm
if I'm like.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
Like mentally trapped right now, or if if like this
is like a good feeling.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
But I also have a tape called the La Ratchetes,
And so with the La Ratches tape, it's based around
like a basketball team. I'm gonna have everybody that's on
the everybody that has something to do with the album.
We're all gonna be wearing jerseys like for the cover
and all that stuff, and it's gonna be like it's
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gonna be tight. It's a big it's a big like
LA artists on there, It's gonna be tight, like you
know what I'm saying. So, and I got this single
on the La Ratchets song called I Love Ratchets, And
I got like three or four like like really dope
artists on there that have considered themselves the Ratchet like
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you know what I'm saying. So I don't know, it's
just a really good turn up album, Like it's turned
like it's lit. So we've been kind of torn between it,
and we came up with the decision that we're gonna
wait on. Yeah, so we're gonna wait on uh for
Love's war now and we're gonna drop that like around
like more like cuddle season, like you know when it
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get cold this year, third or fourth quarter, like you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
And as far as what's next.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
So wait, are we stopping the La Ratchets?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
So is that coming before?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
That's coming before now?
Speaker 5 (45:55):
So yeah, so we're gonna so we're gonna go with
the like you love me, I'm gonna drop a video
from within the next couple of weeks a video for that.
This's gonna be Valentine's Day, Man, it will be my birthday.
My birthday month is March. You know what I'm saying, Mary,
My birthday's March twenty, last day of Pisces.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay, okay, So yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Sometime around then, like I don't know before or after,
probably I love After my birthday, we coming with an
La Ratchet tape. And I'm telling you right now, like
I'm stabbing right now. Check like it's goinna be one
of them ones. Like it's one of them tapes.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I feel like where you're at right now, it only
makes sense for you kind of ride the wave of
the life. You love me and this is my personal
opinion and take it for what it's worth in it.
It would make sense to drop the La Ratchets and
then the one that you're speaking about as far as
the evolution, because I feel like you you got this momentum,
(46:54):
You got this the record speak for itselfs people see
it here, so if the visuals going to add on
to that, you get that ratchet ship. And not to
say you get out of your system, but it's like
that's a part of who you are, right, it's the
part of the brand.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
But but at the same time, you can't evolve unless
you do get that out of your system, right, And
again that's just a part of who you are. But
if you're talking about the moment you said evolving, I'm like, ooh,
As you were saying this in real time, I'm like,
if he drops that and then goes back to the
like you love me type vibes, I feel like it'll
be a backstep, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So I hear both sides, but I really hope that
you go with that. Well, you just said that that
that's the direction that you're going.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I even was so torn.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
I was so torn that like we had the feel
me like the opportunity to go to on the radar,
and I did two songs.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
I did a song off of I Did It, I
Did I Didn't Like to Love Me and here.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
And God did so like you Love Me is gonna
be on the the ratchets gosh, and it makes sense.
So I was abouna say, if this goes on the
evolution vibe, I don't know not to say you can't
do it, but it just what.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
It would to me. It wouldn't make sense, right, man.
I appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I enjoyed this conversation. I'm hoping that the people got
something from it, getting to know you. And I always,
like I was telling you coming up, man, I just
love seeing I love stabbing this moment to then when
we had the next conversation and next conversation, just watching
the progression over the years, because again, you got a
great head on your shoulders, got a great team, and
I'm just proud of you, bro. I wish you nothing
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but the best of success and just keep going up, bro,
like for real, for real, thank you any partner words you.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Want to tell the people out there, I mean, hey,
just do what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Man.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
At the end of the day, Man, it might not
always hit, it might not always stick, but when it do,
you're gonna hit the jackpart.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Man, and I like to end this with the year
can't end without big Ef doing what all right, you
already talked about dropping both projects, so that's gonna happen.
But any this can be musical wise, because be personal wise.
It's just a gold that you have that you're like, Man,
I want to knock this out. And this is also
another thing. We're gonna stamp it. Just make sure that
we hold you accountable to this so that you can't
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end What's.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
Say, this year cannot end without big Eth performing in
front of five thousand people.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Okay, for sure, there we go. Stamp it right, We're
gonna hold you accountable.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Congratulations on everything, man, and I look forward to again
more progression. Man, Chuck Dizzle the homie big Eth. All right,
we keep it at Home Grown, Live and Direct. Baby,
you catch y'all next time.
All right, we're back at it.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, it's been a long time coming, man, Chuck Dizzle,
back at it live in direct Man, Live and Direct
from the Real Nightty two three Studios, Los Angeles. All right,
keep it at home grown as we always do. And
I got I got a special treat. Got the homie
in the house.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I've been seeing him kind of go up for the
last couple of years. We linked up over at the
Leak Podcast. A look to the Leak Podcast. Man, he's
been going crazy over there. Shout out to Trap Trap La.
My god, big Eth is here.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Eth's going on? Bro?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Chuck?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Come on, I'm with the legend right here.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Now. You're making waves out in the city.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Bro, I've been seeing the movement, and first and foremost,
I'm just proud, you know what I mean. And based
off the conversation we were having over at the Leak Podcast,
you know, this is still kind of new to you, right,
you know what I'm saying, This is all new. But
the thing that I took from that conversation that we had,
it's like, Dude, this dude gotta a great head on
the shoulders.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know what I'm saying. So I really want to
just get to know you. Man, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't really know you too well. And I want
the people to know get to know you. You know
what I mean, because I know they hear the song
I'm saying, like you love me. It's going crazy right now.
First and foremost, how how is the response from that?
From what you expected from this stuff?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Hey man?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
It's like it's like an overflow right now, abundance right
now for sure. Like I don't know, Like when I
dropped it, I knew, I'm like, okay, all eyes on
me right now, you feel me? I had just uh,
I had just piggybacked it off of like the like
the drop with Me or RJ you Feel Me, and
like that was called b I T C A. So
like that went up in the city. So I kind
of like I knew, like everybody like was way like okay,
(01:38):
what he got next?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Like what he got? You know?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So I dropped that and the city actually just like
hopped them all back like you feel me. I feel like, yeah,
like they trusted me now like you feel me like
now like they like no, like okay, it's real like
so and I did that ship like good and I
did it at like the local landmark, like you feel
(02:01):
what I'm saying, Like, I did it like in the
city where I grew up at like you feel Me
on Slashings at the car wash.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I did the video there.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I got another like you feel Me hard young dope
artists from the city as well, named like look Cardi PG.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Everybody everybody familiar with him if you're from the city
for sure, and you Yeah, he's an artist in his
own right. And that was one of the things that
we were talking about, how he kind of inspired you
to kind of get back to it as well, like
you guys kind of inspired each other.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So yeah, I want to I want to talk about
that conversation as well, man, because you know, as an
artist that's coming up, you know you're gonna have ups
and downs. You're gonna have moments where you kind of
want to give up or just feel like, man, I'm
not really making any way, so I don't know what's
going on, right, And when you get that inspiration, you
keep going.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You know, you see the abundance of the love. You
know what I'm saying. Now, let's take it back though.
Who is Big ef Man? And how'd you get the name?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And I know you probably answered this on on platforms before,
but I want to get to know you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Man, did you get the name? How'd you get into music?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
How did it all start for you?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
All Right, so let's take it all the way back
to like twenty sixteen. Give me a fresh out of
high school. I'm not really knowing what I want to
do next. For me, I did not grow My life
long dream was to be in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Rap?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, like when you were like when you five sevent
it just it just like you know, yeah. So anyways,
moving on from that, like I just didn't know what
was next, you know what I'm saying. Everybody had that
moment where they like they just trying to figure it out.
They don't know what's going on. So a lot of
my peers were in the studio, so I was going
with them, but I wasn't really like hopping on the
songs making music. I slowly like got into it started
(03:35):
with ad libs, like hopping on my homies ad libs.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And this is based off of people because and I'm
just assuming, right, and I could be wrong, right, But
you seem like you have a lot of charisma, a
lot of energy, so people probably just gravitated to you
exactly like hey, come to the studio. We need we
need to vise right right. So from that, it's like, yo,
hop on this real quick, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
So from that, like I was, I was literally the
guy that brought the girls to the studio, girls and
alcohol and all after the studio sound you know, That's
that's who I was. Then like it was actually an
engineer one of my homies didn't do a libs at all.
My engineer was like, mana sound crazy on this shit,
screaming or doing whatever. I got the move heard myself,
I'm like wow.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So that was literally the first time I actually.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Ever heard myself on the mic anything was doing somebody
a libs and I heard it. I'm like, dang, it's
like the hardest part of the whole song. Like to me,
it wasn't to everybody else who was too. So from
there I made my own song. It went crazy you
feel me, I didn't drop or anything, but like to
me and my peers, it was like, oh funny, you
feel made a song like you know, so it was
tight And then like when I dropped my first song,
(04:37):
you for You. It took me like two three years
to drop a song by myself and just really like
actually push it and stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So you recorded it, held.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
On to it, listened to it, and never dropped it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Played it for yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What was the moment that you said, Okay, I need
to actually upload this and let the world receive this.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
So I actually made like ten to thirteen songs after
that song Wow, and then that fourteenth song I rout
that one. All them other ones are throwaways. I've never
I'm probably never gonna ever go so.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
These are They're not any anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
This is only in your arsenal, Like nobody's ever heard
this aside from.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like close people.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yes, exactly, Wow, So son of but fourteen is the
first one that's not Euphoria, right, that is you for You?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So son but fourteen was Euphoria. And that's the one
that you uploaded.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yes, Wow, uploaded to all DSPs. Went crazy. It got
a great response, Like in the first like two days,
it had like ten thousand plays like on Apple Music alone.
So I saw I knew I'm like okay, because I
was always somebody in the city like I was always
that guy that had cool parties. You know, I had
a nice car when I was sixteen, it was a
(05:40):
lot of stuff going on to where I was just
a cool guy like and then I like like my
parties were legendary, like you know what I'm saying. As
far as like people like in my generation, everybody know
who I am just off of the fact like of
like us being outside and I was always like one
of the for me, I'll say, like the most like
you know, like main faces outside, Like you know what
I'm saying. So I kind of like build like a
(06:02):
friendship with a lot of people in the city. Like
that's why everybody in the city feel like right now
they like my homies and they know me because they
really do, Like you know what I'm saying, I was
really outside of everybody, so it's just tight. So yeah,
I uploaded that and then still I was just ef.
I was I was just e p H.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But this is this is you creating the demonica. The
name is short for something or no.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
My name is Ephraim.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Why did I I figured that?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I'm like, what, what's the name?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So it's no, Okay, I'm wondering if this eph stand
for something. Big is the name, so you've always been
going by.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
That, I've always saw like I was a big chief
Key fan, so I went by chief Ef all the
high school. Yeah, so so like like LA knew me
as cheap like you know. So then I grew out
of that. Then I was just I'm like, man, I'm
not I'm myself.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Then fast forward, I started working with UH, like this
female artist, you know, and I started writing for UH
and stuff like that. So we were hanging out and
like like she used to always like like say like, oh,
like I'm going big on everybody, like oh yeah, like
(07:18):
like yeah, like I just went big on him, like
da da da. I'm like yeah, I'm big eve man,
I'm about to go big on people so bull so
like yeah. From there, like I just stuck with that name.
And then I dropped a single In twenty twenty two,
I dropped a single with like maybe like five other
of my homies on the song, and we were called
(07:41):
the Nation. And so from there we threw parties like
like that's.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
What we did. We didn't rap nothing, We threw parties.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Like cre called the Nation.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, So now, and that's the party crew that formed
into kind of like the brand at the time, right exactly.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
So it's so it's the twins Tyan Kenney, So those
are my bros. Like, so they had like in a
cult like little following fan base, little family type thing
going on right to where everybody's like like one, everybody's one.
So it's like when we throw a party, we all
got at least fifteen twenty people coming. It's it's a
(08:15):
core of about twenty people, like you know what I'm saying.
So it's the nation, like you know. So we came
out with a song and I kind of like made
all the guys in the group hop on the song
because I'm the because I'm the only one.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That rap really right at the time at the time, like.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I'm the only one that's like really like I can
me rapping. It's another guy that was even really rapping
in the group. And it's crazy how we were we
started out in this group, and that's go Leaky.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So Leaky is another I was going to ask you
because he's he's on some of your earlier projects. All
he's pretty much I want to say him, you got
four projects and every every single project.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right, So I was going to ask you that relationship
between you and m so it stems from that.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
It's there for back then we were we were just
going up together. He was the young buck. He was
like twenty, I think something like that, Like he was
the young one. So booth from there, like we I
made everybody come to the studio, and of course we
get a party at the studio. So it's about maybe
like fifty people at the studio, some some like some
actual big dogs in there too, like you feel me
Like we was just vibed out through like when we
(09:18):
turned the beat on, shot out r J on the beat. Yeah,
we I go in the boat. I kind of like
set the tone. I'm like Nation business, keep banging the anthem,
put up and coops. You know, we came to Slimmers
just want to ship. You see the name on the banners.
We get every we don't buy manners. Hey I'm big.
If I get chili, I'm chilly. I'm in the big
black range with me and Kenny. So yeah, from there
(09:40):
it just went like the it was like everybody knew
the words that night, like and they went up and
we posted it. We kind of fumbled the back and
we waited a long time to like actually posted posted.
We were just performing it at all of our party,
so everybody in the city knew that song. And from
there me and he kind of like look at each
(10:01):
other and was like, yeah, like like let's go up
like you feel me, so we kind of like you
feel me? Yeah, I did that. After that, I dropped
two three tapes they all went up, and then after
that last tape I dropped. I dropped that single b
I T C CH with RJ. And then from there
kind of like that's where I seem like separation.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Now we were we were again when we had this conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
One of the things I want you to to let
the audience know about too, is how in the process
of you dropping these projects, you got four of the
first of all, I want I'm gonna go through each project,
say the name, and I want you to just give
me a kind of just a short synopsis of what
the project means to you, what the title was about,
and we'll go from each one. But in this conversation
we were having, you noticed that each time that you
(10:44):
drop it, just the movement kept getting bigger and kept
getting bigger. The down loads kept going up, the streams
kept going up, and that's kind of what gave you
the conference to be like, oh damn, I got something
to say, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So let's start off with I thought I was late,
all right?
Speaker 5 (10:57):
So thought I was late was like a very like
distinct time of my life because that's again a time
where I didn't know what was next, what I was doing.
I had just recently got out of a big lawsuit
with an artist because I was a songwriter.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
First.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Okay, wait, look, okay, how does how does that happen?
Because not not the lawsuit, and I guess we can
get into that. Well, we don't even have to get
into that, but you in terms of like getting in
that right you you you do? I want to go
from the ad libs you've been in the studio doing
ad libs from somebody to then becoming an important business
(11:32):
part of it, you know, as far as the writing.
A lot of people when when they when they get
into this business, they go to the artistry and they
don't realize that the money's in the bag and there writing.
So how did you get to know that before? I'm
assuming before you dropped your first project, before So how
does that, How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You know what I'm saying it was that? Was that
a conscious thought or was it like, oh damn, I
just kind of stumbled up on this.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
It was God just a thout wow, Like you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
So when I dropped that first song, Euphoria that, uh,
I believe I was writing right before I d before
you right, yeah, cause.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You mentioned you said you were you were writing. I
don't know if you said for somebody, but that's how
the whole the Big name came. You said big because
you're going big on somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So at that moment, were you writing for people at
that point or so?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Let me let me tell you this. So because I
did like skip that point.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Come on if I'm like, hold on right now, bro?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
All right, looks.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Look, so when I first started like hopping on the
ad libs and all that, people was gassing it hard,
like they was gassing it, like bro, I'm telling you,
like they said forget the song.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We like that was crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
And at the time I was hanging out with Ian
Connor every day, I was hanging out with uh you
feel me like John Ross like that whole wave. I
was hanging out with Playboy Cardi. She said, before I
was a rapper, before I touched them like anything on God.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Like, how are they?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But how are these relationships being started? Cause people just
don't stumble into rooms mothers.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Like man bro To be honest, God just had his
hand on me all the time?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Who had I can't explain it because it would just
sound like, oh, everything's an accident.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Give me it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Just give me one example, because I hear you and
I understand it, and I even shared with you before
we got on all right, I'm like, this is guy's
timing for me, you know, get back in the studio
doing an interview. So let's just choose Playboy Cardi for
an example. How did you meet Playboy card.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I met Playback Cardi through Ian Connor. I met Ian
Connor because we were on Fairfax one day. And you know,
if you're on fair in fact, you're gonna see somebody.
I'm like eighteen. You know what I'm saying. I'm a
thirsty little kid that's trying to find somebody to meet.
Like you know what I'm saying, I have nothing to do.
My friend has a car. We're in the car all
day riding around Fact. We're riding around fair Facts all day.
(13:46):
We just so happened to be hungry.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
We park and we go to the little sushi restaurant
right there. I forgot what this car. He bounces out.
I bounced out. My other friend bounces out.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
My friend has on a Palace shirt, so Palace as
a brand, and they had a specific drop that only
dropped in London. My friend had that jacket on. I
had on a really nice fit that was supreme. Like
we were just like not hype beats, but we knew
how to dress back then, like you know what I'm saying.
(14:17):
So we had it on like you know what I'm saying.
And then Ian hopped out a black truck Ian Connor
and walked up and immediately like just was like what
what y'all got on him?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
He had the pants on to my friends jacket.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Got you, which is only in London.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So he like.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
He's seen the car we just hopped out of. He
like what the heck is going on? Like he don't know?
Like so boom from there, Like we just.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Was like, bro, can we come here?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Can we go there with you?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
He took us to a Playboy Cardion in lil Uzi
Vert concert in twenty seventeen. Yeah, twenty seventeen, and from
there bros A rap like So that's how I first
like seem like damn, like you could really be a star,
not not be like globally known. Like I'm like, these
these men are rich, like you know what I'm saying.
(15:08):
They selling tickets and selling our shows with four hundred,
five hundred people in each ticket fifty dollars and they taking.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
All the money.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah, like they do nobody themselves. So I'm thinking, I'm
just my brain start clicking after that, so boom. I
so yeah, so I'm so fast forward from that day.
Now we're just in the mix now, like you know
what I'm saying, We're in the mix. We going to
the little parties and the little underground events, were doing
the whole little thing. Like my friend was real close
(15:35):
with Little Yachty. So we fly to Atlanta for about
a week. It's our first time finding out there. And
I'm not gonna like spill beans, but just know we
was broken. We didn't pay for a plane tickets. We
still find a way to hop on the plane and
get out there. That's all I'm gonna say. So we
get out there and we get to Atlanta. We freelancing.
We have nowhere to stay nothing. We just want to
(15:56):
go see who we can see out there. We freelancing.
We see a couple of people. The long story short,
that mission was burnt. We've seen people, but we didn't.
Nothing happen right, and we were stuck out there boom So,
the same way we got out there, it took us
like a couple of hours to get a ticket back.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
So we get back to La finally and we are
in the hotel. Were in the hotel room. We're just chilling,
not doing nothing. We've been back for two days. We're
just chilling in the hotel for like two days. Then
like one day, we're playing my song on the speaker.
Mind you, it's one of them fourteen.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Songs, say, one of those, one of the very few songs.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That you got, one of the very few before I
drop you for you, one of the very few. We're
playing that song.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Just for yourselves because it's not on streaming anywhere.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
We're playing it on the JBL speaker in the studio,
I mean inside the hotel room, playing two K his girlfriend,
my homies girlfriend is on the bed on the phone
with Ruby Rose.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
She she hears my song in the background and says,
who is that?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Who is that?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
End? And I.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Ruby Rose on the phone asking who the song is.
I run to the phone like yeah, like you feel
like yeah, that's me. Like she like, bro, like I'm
in the studio right now, like it's that song out.
I'm like no, She like can I have it? She
I'm like yup, And she's like, Okay, I'm about to
send you a black truck. She sends she she's boss
(17:22):
at this point. You know what I'm saying. She sent
me a black truck from the hotel to her studio
that she's asked. She was starting to hit her at
the time. She obered me to hit Corde and yeah,
from the from there it was a rap. Bro.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
She cut that ship. She cut a couple of more things.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
But that's how that relationship started. And that's how you
kind of saw.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
One thing that I that I'm impressed by that you
saw early on is kind of like not not even
full details, but how the business works, right, And like
you said, you don't have to be the main character
to be the main character, and kind of like structuring,
how you handled your bit, how you I would assume
handle your business moving forward. Was that one of those
(18:02):
encouraging things for you, knowing like, oh okay, damn, I
can maneuver my way this way versus because again, I
run into a lot of artists and they seem to
kind of have it backwards in terms of like thinking
they have to be signed or thinking they have to
do X, Y and Z on order to be honest, like, no,
you build your own community or link with the right
people and get your bag up this way. There's different
(18:23):
ways to make it work. There's no one clear way
to get this thing going. So for you when you
found that out, was that more motivation be like Okay,
this is the route that I want to take or
was it just a hobby and you just kind of
just stumbled up on it? He was like, Okay, it's
something I can just get money on.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
To be honest, I wasn't thinking about money at all
because I didn't know you can. I still I'm still
ignorant to everything. Gotcha, I know nothing about nothing. Me
even saying yes to you had a song, I'm still
not knowing nothing because in my head I'm like, sure,
I'm never gonna drop it, like I don't even know
how to drop it. Like so I'm not thinking nothing.
I'm just thinking in my head like, Okay, she wants
this song, it's gonna be cool. I get to be
(18:58):
with her for a little bit, like you feel me,
she gonna gonna cut the record and she might start rapping,
like and so.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You're not even thinking about relationships in turns of in
terms of oh man, I can build and you know,
maybe this can help my career.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's just like, oh, well, I got a couple of songs.
I'm not gonna use him.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Here she go, Like, you know, bro, it was more
of my homie, like he was still in the process
of installing in my head the art of like like
he was installing into me like like like that because
I knew I was somebody, but I didn't know what
to do with So I feel like he knew what
(19:34):
he wanted to do, but he knew I had every
single piece of the puzzle that he needed. So I
feel like he was more so working through me and
I at the time that was his like desire, his wants,
So I didn't really like I wasn't like aware of it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But it really.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
When I seen how excited she was to like to
cut the record and to have that record, and how
pay I was, how we got through it and all
that shit like that, Like I feel like that's when
like I realized, like, dang, I'm actually good at this too,
because everything I start to do and like, I feel
like I'm good at it. But then it'd be like
(20:12):
a certain click of certain things when I was like, Okay,
I like this, So it was just like a self
reflection type of thing, like nobody could have made that
happen but me, Like you know what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
My mind shifted a little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Like I'm like, I'm like, damn, like I'm looking around
at the studio really like I'm just looking at the studio.
I'm looking at the fact that I don't have enough
money to uber myself and you ubered me. I'm looking
at the fact that like like like my homie is
in the studio with us, trying to say shit to
like like my homie is in the studio with us,
(20:51):
trying to like say lines like you know, like trying
to like pitch in and like she don't like what
he said.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
She like what I'll say, like so all that's all
that's coming to my brain.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I'm like, man, i got all these other songs like
now I'm just pulling up stuff for like well you
like this like this, like this and everything is yes,
I'm like, man, like what's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
So from there, like she she flew me out to Atlanta,
and yeah, she flew me out to Atlanta. She put
me in a w hotel.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Wow, and like you know, like just seeing all that
coming from nothing, of course it's gonna like you know,
like of course it's.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Going to something.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, so I'm just seeing a lifestyle that I'm seeing,
like Atlanta, like I've never been. I've never been to
the East Coast. So it was just a lot that
played a part in that time. And then like right
after I got back from Atlanta, well no, let me
stay Atlanta real quick. So while I'm in Atlanta, bro,
like you have to imagine like Ruby Rose just dropped
(21:56):
her first song and she went viral off it like
it changed. It didn't change her life, So like you
got to think about everybody in Atlanta wants to work
with her right now, you know what I'm saying. And
guess who she's with right, yeah, and like every room,
like I get this to her own God, every room
she took me in and I was in the room
with Mike.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Will CARDI b uh thug like a lot of people.
I met a lot of people in that week. Like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
So it's about default you getting that same access.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
But I'm getting the access that I even asked for it.
She she literally is walking in the room telling them, oh, yeah,
this is the best song writer in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So imagine that coming from nothing. You're nothing, You're not
a rapper or sorry or nothing.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
But now you're in all these rooms with your favorite
rappers as the best songwriter in the world.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Damn, and you're getting put in a fire. Yeah you
know what I'm saying. And you're really producing.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm not saying in those moments when you get thrown
into the fire, is it is it clicking for you?
Did Did you have moments who were like damn, I
fucked up?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Or was it just like knocking out the part, like
knocking out the park like like bro like like Mike
Will sat there for and talked to me and like
spend knowledge at me and wisdom at me. For two
hours bro for real fool, Like, that's a legend. That's
somebody that I looked up to since I was a jit,
like in real life. So just like getting all that sauce,
(23:20):
comes back to the land and ain't seeing like how
like I already got motion myself out here without even
doing nothing?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It's yeah, it was like a why not moment? And
then yeah, so then I you affiliate like it grew
to be my first love.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Like so then so you know, so I want to
go back to the projects. I thought it was like that.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So this all happens before you drop that, right, Yes,
all this happened before. So now you get the sauce,
You get all this, you get this motivation. It's like,
oh okay, I need to text you releases. I thought
it was late, give us a quick breakdown of that
album that that time period and uh, you know the
title in itself.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
So saying all that I that I just said, I'm
twenty four at the time. Twenty yeah, I'm twenty four
at the time when I dropped that, So like when
you're twenty four now that like now looking back, I'd
be like you was dumb, like, like why are you
thinking like that, but I was thinking in my head
(24:17):
like damn, like I'm getting old, like.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Like right, like you know, like that's a dumb thought.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
But you when you see, like when I'm around like
people from the age of eighteen to twenty four, that's
a six year gap, right, So in six years I
was broke. I stayed broke for six years, like you
know what I'm saying. From eighteen out of high school
till I was twenty four, I stayed broke. So imagine
you seeing every every other day one of your peers
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or somebody younger than you was getting rich. So but
you're around it every day and you're not like an
axe like me. Yeah, like you're not like you feel
me like I'm gonna hold my own. So imagine that
for six years straight, like you kind of like want
it bad, like you like it's like even if you
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don't naturally like have the instinct to like be materialistic
and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Like that, like you can't help it.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
At a certain point, like you're gonna.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Stand out if you not on that exactly, like you
know what I'm saying, and then it's really gonna be bad.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Like it's like going to a restaurant seeing everybody eat,
everybody eat, everybody's sitting there like no food.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You know what I mean, Right, I get it. I
get it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
So it made me want to just go, you know,
eat like you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so
I drop you for you. And when I drop you
for you, I got a good response. So I'm like, Okay,
maybe I'm not too late to join the like you
feel me to join the I'm sorry, but like to
(25:49):
join the the next what do you call it the
next class?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And so speaking specifically like in hip hop or is
it just like just the eighteen to twenty six crowd.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
At the time, it wasn't nobody older than twenty five
getting on Like that's just what it was for that
like like look like for that little year, if you
was older than twenty five, nigga, it.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Was it was.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
It was bad news for you if you wasn't Drake,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Of course, nowadays, like you gotta remember, like shit changes
every day, so you don't know, like you feel me,
never give up, but I know that now. But yeah,
it was getting to a pointed time where I was
in the dark place. I didn't know what's going on?
All that shit that I was telling you about how
I was in Atlanta came back to the dice and
that nigga, I was going through a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I was going through a lawsuit off of some of
that stuff, and yeah, I was. I was sad.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Gotcha, like you feel me like because I'm like, damn,
I'm broke. This is how much you were supposed to
pay me. You didn't pay me this, gotcha, gotcha. It
was just a lot where I'm or I'm in my
head where I'm like damn, like in my leg now,
like I have to find me a new career.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Now that I got to go back to working under
what do I gotta do?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Then later so later on that year, you dropped the entry,
right all right? So well what about the entry? What
changed or did anything change between?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
The first project thought I was late to the entry.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
So right after I thought I was late, I was
like I got like reconfident like again, like so I'm
so I'm super confident again.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I'm outside, I'm popping out.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I'm still with the nation, like you know, we're doing
our big one now like and I'm having fun and
is that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Bab I'm sorry to cut you off. But is that
based off the response from l gosh.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay, so you and your feelings and your thoughts feeling
about this right you drop it get.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
A response you's like, oh, I actually really really am
him because.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
It was like a diary too.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
It was like I'm like, you know, like the stereotype
about about like how men like don't express their feelings. Well,
when you got that pen and you got that mic,
that shit is easy, bro. So yeah, I kind of
like got got it out, like I got it out
of my spirit, got it out of my system.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
So and then from there I met Twin and then
so when so, so Twan is a Los Angeles mogul
when it comes to like.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Like being a good person, when it comes to putting
a stamp uh in the city, and when it comes
to just being like and when it comes to like
being like for the people, like you know what I'm saying.
So I met Twin and like from there, like it
was like instant like okay, like what we gonna do
(28:41):
with this? Like you know, So it was it was
like so we had the entry. I had already had it,
like I was already like recording because I record a lot.
So I was already kind of like piecing together like
how I wanted to do it, what I wanted to do,
and I was getting all my features.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I was, you know, I was just I was.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I was working my program, like you know what I'm saying.
I was trying to figure out, like how much pull
do I got?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Like what can I do? And then you feel me,
I did like I did my thing by myself. And
then I feel like.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
With me doing my thing and with me pressing twine
so much about like being like my manager, I feel
like like I became a new person as well, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So, wait, did you originally approach me? And he didn't
want to manage you at first? That's how I went
at first. Did he not want to manage you at first?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
He did not want to manage me? He wanted to,
but from his previous artist, he was already scared to
manage you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, which makes sense.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I don't know. You want to say something about that?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Give him my Twana's in the studio with us righting
now as well. So what was it about big Ef Dad?
You say, all right, yeah, I'm gonna get back to it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It was his persistence. He played some records for me
and I actually liked the music. Okay, So it was
it wasn't too much of me not wanting to manage him.
It was just like you said, past traumas dealing with
individuals you know that wanted to do the same thing
that he does and it just didn't work out. So
(30:08):
I just went back to what I do, and that's
throw clubs and just serve others. Yeah, the management, I
was just in bed. So when he wanted me to
work with him, I say, listen, man, you're gonna get
me up. You gotta make good music. I gotta listen,
and we gotta go crazy. And he did all of
that and we're here now.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's a true testament of who you are as an
artist and an individual, and it also leads up to
the next project. Yeah, I said it. You know what
I'm saying, Like we're here and that we're here, like
I love going through the story now. So it's like
the confidence wasn't there at first? You drop your shit, damn. Okay, Yeah,
now I'm here. I'm at the entry. I'm at the entry.
I'm at the entry point. I'm actually I'm not late
and now you know you you you reach now showing
(30:47):
you don't ask for handouts, but you realizing like, oh wait,
I do have resources. I'm the guy in the city.
Let me just tap into those resources and see what
can come from it. You deliver another good project and
as you were telling me in the back, around streams
and things continue to go up. All right, yeah, I said, okay,
a little confidence is now here exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
So it's like that title stands for itself, like yeah,
I said it, like I'm in here now and I'm
not quiet like you know how when you first kind
of like the new person in the door when they
come in the door, they gotta fill the room that
they're like nah, yeah, So that's straight like that. So
from this, from like those three, I was being real
vulnerable with like with like my audience, you know what
(31:26):
I'm saying. So it's like thought. I was like, so
imagine you thought you was late to the party, like
you feel me. Booms, we get to the party. Now
it's the entry like you feel me. You you of
course got Bubba Gus walking in this door because you
don't know who in his door, like you know what
I'm saying. But my busting over. Yeah, I said it,
like you know, and then I got a great response
from y'all said it, and that's when I knew I'm okay,
(31:48):
finally got your attention.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And I'm gonna tell you right there.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
One of my favorite songs from you, and it happens
to be on that project is go Through It, And
it was. What was wild is because you had this
big personality. You have this confidence which is clearly displayed,
like even when I see you, when I when I
first met you, like you have this humbleness about you,
but on records you're talking.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know what I'm saying, you talking your shit. But
it's that's why I say you have a.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Good head on your shoulders because you know how to
you know how to balance that and go through it.
You were it was a balance between manifesting the things
that you want and then at the same time, like
being in a place that you are talking about what
you want and talking about like the success that you
have seen, but at the same time the things that
you do want and and and really taking accountability for yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
So it's like I love when the artist taps into
that because to.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Me, there's no amount of money there's no amount of
materialistic things that can show the true inside of somebody.
And I feel like with that particular song, it was like, Yo,
I'm bearing all my thoughts. I'm still I'm still him,
and I still have these thoughts.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I think you said something about don't I had to
quote in front of me, but it was something to
the effect of I'm just gonna pay for I know
I have it wrong, but I make mistakes, so I
go through it, or something to that effect, but how
just believing in myself and understanding like I can do it.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I forgot what it was.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I pull it up in a second, but that was
just one of the where I was like, Damn, I
love that he said that, because I know there's a
lot of people.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Include myself, that go through that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You can achieve all these things, but at the same time,
you still those moments are like, Damn, I'm the only
one that's in control of all this shit, good, bad,
and different or whatever. I can't place any hater blame
on anybody else. I have to take account beating for myself,
and I think the moment you start tapping into that
that's when you start seeing more things kind of work
(33:40):
out in your favor, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, So for that video, So I actually did a
video to that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I didn't even see it for real.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah, I did a video to that, and I did
it at my birthday party last year.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And so yeah, like that was a special video for me,
a special time in my life. Like I really I
like that song. That's like with the song that hit
home for me because I had my mom, I had
my dad in that video.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I had like a couple of rappers in that video. Yeah,
I had my grandma on that video.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Like I just I just really wanted to get that
one off my chest for sure, because like like you said,
like that one, like it meant more like I took
my time with it.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I don't write my music, but I wrote a little
bit of that, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Like, so, no, I'm like my city, I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
No.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I was just thinking about that song now because it
was a good time.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
But I know I love that man. It just it
felt it felt like a vulnerable spot on the project.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
You know what I'm saying. It sounded different than any
other songs, and that's still one of my standards. I
like that one a lot. But that brings us to
light my City, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
That the latest project that we had from you, which
by the way, yeah I said it was in twenty
twenty four, and then the same thing for like my
City one was dropped in what March and in August.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Okay, so tell us about lighting my City now? Now
again the plays.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Is getting up there, the strangers getting up there, everything
is enhancing, and you know, I think the title speaks
for itself.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
But tell us your vantage points from so.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, well, light in My City that was like the
first one where I'm like, okay, like I'm not new
to this, I'm true to this, Like you know what
I'm saying. So I'm in the door, I'm talking about
you know, I'm talking about talk and everybody listening, so
you feel me. And then like with that being said,
like with everybody listening, they understand me. And like a
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lot of the times, like when I be talking, bro,
like I'll be talking to talk. I talking to myself too,
so hearing what I'll be saying sometimes people be so
real that I'll be going I'll just go straight and
just listen to myself. I just you feel me because
some stuff I say I don't do but me but
like me saying it makes me go do it.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's a reminder.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. So I just
reminded myself and I remind other people that don't know that.
I like I shine bright, like real, real, real bright.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
So has that always been your personality? From jump?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Though? Like? Is it?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Have you always been this big personality from jump?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
From the jump?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Really? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
From the jump?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So is it it's no surprise that you are in
this type of business because I'm curious. You said the
basketball thing, but was there anything else that you were like,
all right, well if this doesn't work out, I'm gonna
do this or did you have a path if music
wasn't it, what was the path for Big Eve?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
So before I was like like while I was in
high school, I was always it was my dreams also act.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
So yeah, so I got signed to uh Sack.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
After I was in the I was in the Union,
and I was doing my thing and now I was
extras and grown ups a couple of movies. Yeah, I
was doing my acting thing and I just always wanted
the main road because I'm you know, I feel like
I was tired.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I wanted to be on Disney all that.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I got a main character syndrome.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Man, I did like a thousand Are you only kid?
I have two big sisters, but I grew up as
the only kid. Okay, I never lived with them really
for sure. My sister actually married a Nigeria prince. Wait
what Yeah, and they own their own airline and all that.
That's randomness, head, that's crazy, right, Do.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You have a relationship with her? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Like we're cool.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Okay, yeah, Because I'm just thinking like if I mean.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Like, man, I would have been so much different, say,
like you, if we was locked there were we supposed
to be locked in life.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
You would have been trying to fly to Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Man, what I wouldn't have been trying to find my
way back right damn.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So, So with this, with all this being said, man,
through your trials and tribulations and success and things that
you've seen, Man, what what advice could you give to
somebody that's that's going going through it right now? Because again,
you you're seeing a lot of love from from where
you're at, right But the twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
even like earlier in the journey big Ef, what advice
(38:05):
would you give to yourself? But then another artist that's
kind of like man just starting up, trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
All right, Look, so I'm gonna just say this, and
I might sound weird, it might sound like too scientific
or whatever, but look, when when each of us was born,
the spirit of fear, the chemical fear, the chemical reaction
of fear, it was not installed in our body.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
It's something that we grow and we learn. We learn
to be scared, we learn to have fear.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Like, so like, stop being scary, yeah, stop being fearful
of your dreams, stop being scared to go do what
you want to do, because like, like like it's a
lot of stuff out there that we don't even know
that we like, there's a lot to about that we
don't even know that we're capable of, and we're never
gonna fulfill it if we're too scared to go try
(38:53):
something or go do something, or go get up or
go do this, or I'm too lazy to go here
or like you know, so I've just been I've just
been telling everybody that I come across like, man, if
you feel led to go do something and you having
second thoughts about it, like it's not always like bad
and that's not always like your gut feeling telling you
(39:14):
like to not go or something like that, like sometimes
you just got to go because you know, like that
could be like a bad spirit or the devil or
something trying to feel me stay you away from your blessings.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Do you got kids?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
No reason why I bring that up is because I
I'm a I classify, classify myself and I'm getting out
of it. But I overthink a lot, right, But watching
my sons, especially my youngest one, no fear. It's like
they just wake up and just go about their business.
And you're right, we as parents, you know, because that's
(39:48):
the first people that they're around, we project all of
this stuff on.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Even something as.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Early today, Hey telling my son, Hey, go get your jacket.
I want you to get sick when you're outside you
want to play, you know what I mean? And of
course I want to protect them, but some of these,
some of these things, I have to hold back in
what I tell him because I don't want to plant
that fear in them, like I don't want him to
think that every time he gonna go outside he could
get sick.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
So but growing up you hear that, you say, you
feel my mom the same way, But like when I
go outside, cause back here, I don't get sick, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
So it's like mom was wrong with like nah, but
like yeah, like I feel that. That's deep.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, man, it's so that's just a reminder, like you know,
be that they say, be like kid like in nature
when it comes to stuff like that, because it's like you,
like you said, there's no fear in that and you
never know what blessings could come from that. Now obviously, yeah,
you want to be protected and all that, like you'll
just be randomly doing some you know, erratic shit, But
there's there's a lesson.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
You always can learn a lesson through the kids. And
I always say that too.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Man, I'm learning to live life through the lens of
a child because of my kids. You know what I'm
saying things that I take for granted. You know, it's
my kids first time seeing it, you know what I'm saying.
Like we're walking outside the other day and myself the moon, like,
oh my god, the moon I've seen the moon about
forty years in my life. I don't give it damn
about the moon, but it's it's the most amazing thing
(41:10):
to them because it's like, oh my god, it's the
so like little stuff like that. Being a father has
really like shown me to again, like to your point,
B be more kid like man and enjoy embraceist journey
in life and take the time to kind of like,
you know.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Not not act like you know it all, you know,
because there's there's a blessing in that. And this brings
me to my point.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
And I don't know if this is the name of
your company or.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
If it's one is affiliated with this, but Endless Blessings
LLC is that the name of the company?
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yep, I got the LLC.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Okay, that's your company? Why endless Blessings? I like that
name all right.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
So my name Ephraim means double blessing, fruitful.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
And I was raised at Krinshaw Christian Center, so you
for me, I had the the opportunity to be taught
by the late doctor Frederick Casey Price even me and
I uh, I don't know, I just I just always
like I just always thought to myself like okay, like however,
(42:15):
big I get wherever I'm going whatever, like you feel
me like I'm about to have guidance like in the mix,
like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
So I.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
And like even saying this right now, like you know,
like this can stop some doors, but I don't give
a damn like you know what I'm saying like this,
like that's what I'm on like as like just as
far as like you know how they say like oh,
just like don't talk about God too early than like
like I don't like, I don't care about none of
So the name of my corporation is inless blessing. I
wanted the kid because my name is a from Bowden.
So the abs of my sign is like the Bugatti sign,
(42:48):
but instead like in the middle, it's an infinity sign.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
So it's in this blessing.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
So I already had my logo already had to tatt
it on me. I'm like, okay, how can I incorporate this?
So it's like in this blessing, my name is double blessed.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
It all just call that. I made that before I
started rapping. I made that. I was also make that
like a clothing brand.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
That's crazy. I love that, man. It shows how everything's
full circle, which brings me to this.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
You know, you got the song that's going up right
now like you love me? What's next for Big Ef?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Man?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Is there an album coming? Project? I mean, because you
know you ain't drop nothing, and you know some months
since since August? Bro, what we're doing? Man? What's up
for twenty twenty five for Big Ef? Bro?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
So?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Look, so I just got worried the other day. Alright.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
So, look so me and Twine been having like this
little battle, right we've been We've been trying to figure
out what's next, you know, because I got a want
and he has a one.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
But his want is like a necessity. My want is
like a right now, like this is how I feel
right now?
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Can you share what that is that you want to
keep that between you guys?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
All right?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
So, look, so I got this tape card for Lover's War, Okay, right,
And that's the tape that me and I'm working on
for like the past like six seven months. We've been
going crazy with this tape. It's almost perfected. It's about
like ninety percent done. It's a beautiful tape, it's not
correlating into what I've been showing so far.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
It's like it's like a new evolution.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
So me personally, I feel like I'm just not getting
my feet wet, so and I don't know if I'm
if I'm like.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
Like mentally trapped right now, or if if like this
is like a good feeling.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
But I also have a tape called the La Ratchetes,
And so with the La Ratches tape, it's based around
like a basketball team. I'm gonna have everybody that's on
the everybody that has something to do with the album.
We're all gonna be wearing jerseys like for the cover
and all that stuff, and it's gonna be like it's
(44:58):
gonna be tight. It's a big it's a big like
LA artists on there, It's gonna be tight, like you
know what I'm saying. So, and I got this single
on the La Ratchets song called I Love Ratchets, And
I got like three or four like like really dope
artists on there that have considered themselves the Ratchet like
(45:20):
you know what I'm saying. So I don't know, it's
just a really good turn up album, Like it's turned
like it's lit. So we've been kind of torn between it,
and we came up with the decision that we're gonna
wait on. Yeah, so we're gonna wait on uh for
Love's war now and we're gonna drop that like around
like more like cuddle season, like you know when it
(45:40):
get cold this year, third or fourth quarter, like you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
And as far as what's next.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
So wait, are we stopping the La Ratchets?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
So is that coming before?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
That's coming before now?
Speaker 5 (45:55):
So yeah, so we're gonna so we're gonna go with
the like you love me, I'm gonna drop a video
from within the next couple of weeks a video for that.
This's gonna be Valentine's Day, Man, it will be my birthday.
My birthday month is March. You know what I'm saying, Mary,
My birthday's March twenty, last day of Pisces.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay, okay, So yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Sometime around then, like I don't know before or after,
probably I love After my birthday, we coming with an
La Ratchet tape. And I'm telling you right now, like
I'm stabbing right now. Check like it's goinna be one
of them ones. Like it's one of them tapes.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I feel like where you're at right now, it only
makes sense for you kind of ride the wave of
the life. You love me and this is my personal
opinion and take it for what it's worth in it.
It would make sense to drop the La Ratchets and
then the one that you're speaking about as far as
the evolution, because I feel like you you got this momentum,
(46:54):
You got this the record speak for itselfs people see
it here, so if the visuals going to add on
to that, you get that ratchet ship. And not to
say you get out of your system, but it's like
that's a part of who you are, right, it's the
part of the brand.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
But but at the same time, you can't evolve unless
you do get that out of your system, right, And
again that's just a part of who you are. But
if you're talking about the moment you said evolving, I'm like, ooh,
As you were saying this in real time, I'm like,
if he drops that and then goes back to the
like you love me type vibes, I feel like it'll
be a backstep, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So I hear both sides, but I really hope that
you go with that. Well, you just said that that
that's the direction that you're going.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I even was so torn.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
I was so torn that like we had the feel
me like the opportunity to go to on the radar,
and I did two songs.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
I did a song off of I Did It, I
Did I Didn't Like to Love Me and here.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
And God did so like you Love Me is gonna
be on the the ratchets gosh, and it makes sense.
So I was abouna say, if this goes on the
evolution vibe, I don't know not to say you can't
do it, but it just what.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
It would to me. It wouldn't make sense, right, man.
I appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I enjoyed this conversation. I'm hoping that the people got
something from it, getting to know you. And I always,
like I was telling you coming up, man, I just
love seeing I love stabbing this moment to then when
we had the next conversation and next conversation, just watching
the progression over the years, because again, you got a
great head on your shoulders, got a great team, and
I'm just proud of you, bro. I wish you nothing
(48:32):
but the best of success and just keep going up, bro,
like for real, for real, thank you any partner words you.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Want to tell the people out there, I mean, hey,
just do what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Man.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
At the end of the day, Man, it might not
always hit, it might not always stick, but when it do,
you're gonna hit the jackpart.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Man, and I like to end this with the year
can't end without big Ef doing what all right, you
already talked about dropping both projects, so that's gonna happen.
But any this can be musical wise, because be personal wise.
It's just a gold that you have that you're like, Man,
I want to knock this out. And this is also
another thing. We're gonna stamp it. Just make sure that
we hold you accountable to this so that you can't
(49:08):
end What's.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
Say, this year cannot end without big Eth performing in
front of five thousand people.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Okay, for sure, there we go. Stamp it right, We're
gonna hold you accountable.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Congratulations on everything, man, and I look forward to again
more progression. Man, Chuck Dizzle the homie big Eth. All right,
we keep it at Home Grown, Live and Direct. Baby,
you catch y'all next time.
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