Bigg Jah on The Lesbian Homie 4, Losing 160 lbs & Creating His Own Lane

This episode Chuck Dizzle taps in with the multi-hyphenate creator Jahdai "Bigg Jah" Pickett, fresh off the release of The Lesbian Homie 4. Bigg Jah talks about almost walking away from the series, what finally made him greenlight Season 4, and the heavy lift it takes to shoot independently — from casting and scheduling to long nights on set.

Joined by cast members Essence Cash and Stephanie Nelson, the crew talks character chemistry, improv gems, navigating fan expectations, and repping women that rarely get the spotlight in Hollywood.

We also dig into Jah’s 160+ lb weight loss journey, balancing marriage with the grind, protecting your mental health, and staying consistent even when the algorithm ain’t hitting. It’s a masterclass in building from the ground up, betting on yourself, and creating your own opportunities — to the max!

Stay connected with everything HOME GROWN | homegrownradio.net 

www.Twitter.com/HomeGrownRadio
www.Instagram.com/HomeGrownRadio
www.facebook.com/homegrownradionet  

HOME GROWN MERCH : homegrownradio.bigcartel.com

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, be back at it, Chuck Dizzel live and direct.
You know, we keep it a homegrown as always.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man. And I always love to talk to individuals.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
That's family, you know, that's that's authentic, you know, that's
intentional on what they do. And I've had a conversation
with this dude before and it's just an amazing, amazing
thing to watch the journey, to see him come back
and do his think creator, actor, director, I mean everything
other the summon, Big Jah is here the Lesbian Homie
four Lesbian congratulations, And you got some cast members here

(00:36):
with us as well, man members, Man, not the one
the two. Man, let us know who you guys are
in your roles in in the Lesbian Homie as well.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
My name is Essence and I play.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
And I am Persephone and I play Big Race.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
We go there we go.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Now one thing, Jah, you play, I play Who ass Bruce?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Now? The one thing?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
One thing that you know I went to the to
the release party. Man, Congratulations first and foremost. Man, I've
just think you've seen the evolution and all this, Man,
But you said it almost didn't happen, man, So that's
what I was kind of tripping out tripping out about
because you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Obviously this is a series that people love, you.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Know, and you said you got to the point where
you just at after season three was like, you know,
I pretty much said and done. So what brought season
four about? Kind of talking about the process and how
we got here.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Bro Man.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
People kept telling me, dude, you gotta do it for
and I'm like, ah, it's such a it's it's such
a long process, and I'm built for the long process
for sure, but it's budget wise, Yeah, you gotta spread
a lot of things. Then you have to try to
expedite the process when you have limited funds. Yeah, so

(01:54):
shooting the movie believe it or not, would be easier really, yeah,
because this is ten episodes on average twenty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
So it's more that you're actually filming, that you have
the process.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
With the content. And he tried to We tried to
cram it in twenty days, and which means that we
got to do twelve hour days. Legally you don't even
go twelve hours got so that means you're trying to
you're trying to cram as many scenes as possible in
one day and night, and and and if y'all watch
any any of the seasons past excuse me, past one,

(02:28):
season two, three, and and now four has we have
so many cast members, so many actors, that you got
to figure out scheduling, make sure everybody's schedule lines up. Uh.
He has a pool of friends, Reese has a pool
of friends, and we have to have make sure that
this we wrote this scene for them. I mean, we
got e Chris Sam in one scene, s three people.

(02:53):
We got to make sure he's available. Sam's available and Chris.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's one thing that a lot of people don't take
any consideration as well, the ability of time, you know,
and I would imagine too, imagining personalities. How does all
that kind of wrap into you know, filming the whole
process and getting in you know, getting into this.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
You gotta remember people and also most of the cast
members are of women. Some some have what you're saying, John,
hold on, hold up, go ahead, meaning like staying late,
going home late at one point in time. I believe
even this season too, but last season E lives an

(03:30):
hour away from a wow, hour plus away.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
From say so being mindful of that.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, we got it, and now it's it's it's twelve
thirty at night. Yeah, we've been shooting all day. She
only she's done shooting, but she got to drive home. Yeah,
so stuff like that, you know what I mean. So
we have to try to be mindful of those things.
And so the next day we don't try to get
her back the next the very next day, gotcha to
do it all over again, you know what I'm saying.

(03:55):
So not just that other people, We got people who
want my producer last here living in Marina Valley. Oh
my god, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Wow, Now for the folks that aren't, you know, out
here and don't really understand what that means, that's a
good hour and some change at the very least without
trying at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, wired, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So, uh,
personalities wise, Yeah, and you never know what people are
going through in their daily lives when you come to say,
you got people you gotta throw on the face, You
gotta throw on the smile or you hear the work. Yeah,
and you might be the communic relief in this scene.
I mean, you gotta be silly, you know what I'm saying.
You gotta jump around and and get and get the
and get the words off the page and make it funny.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
So what was that?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
What was the determining factor to say, Okay, yeah, let's
green light this thing, because I mean, you listened a
whole lot of stuff, and for me.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I would look at it, it's like, yeah, let's let's
chalk this up.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Let's you know, let's let's move on to the next project,
other things that are going on. What made you finally say,
you know what, let's green light season four?

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Everybody outside of me was like, bro, season four, what
we're doing?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Really?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
So it's like, I say, pressure, nothing's really pressure. If
you you can, I can say no, ask me no,
it's over. But the pressure and then then the supporters
they asking for it everywhere I go. What something man?
Season four? Season four? He was asking for season four
when season three was still going yeah last year, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So I was about to say your perspective seventy and
essence please let us know, like how that came from you?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
When did you hit him up like hey, what's going on?
Did you hit him with that pressure as well? Like
what are we doing? And when you got the.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Call to say, okay, we're making this happen you know,
what were you guys reactions.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Because people ask me the same thing. You know, even
though I'm not the producer, I'm not the director, but
just acting in the show. People are asking me like, Hey,
what y'all doing? Y'all doing another season? And Loki I
wanted to, so I know he was already like I
was surprised we did a season three.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
I was he with after two he was dead.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Not doing season three, and I was like, yo, what
you I mean?

Speaker 5 (05:55):
You know, there's a lot of rules because season two
I set up kind of like and people say, well,
why'd you Why did you ended the way you ended it?
If you were if you were't gonna do a season three,
and it wasn't necessarily well, I didn't plan on doing
the season three, and if I did, it was gonna
be later because I had got other shows that I
was gonna do.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
You left room for it to kind of be open,
but the same time not necessarily leaving people.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Hanging right right, And that was it was more like,
I got this other show I want to do, which
is it still haven't we still haven't got to that.
I got two other shows at the time. Now I
got four other shows. I wanted to do before I did,
like another lesbian HOMEI EP season so, but folks are
like bruh. Season two was dope and that was tough
to write. We shot season two with no script. Mm

(06:38):
hmmm yeah, season two is no script? Yeah so, and
which which which I can do because a lot of
most of my sketches are nonscripted except up here. But
I was like, man, if the way I wanted to
shoot season three, I was bringing E back. And that's
the only way I would do a season two is
if he was coming back to the show, Which mean

(07:00):
is you got to bring back her family, it being
back her sister friends, and that's more characters, and then
writing for those characters. You know, how do I do that?
In season two? Already I established he's sister was in it,
and she wasn't in it, but her sister was there
and she was dating tape. So I'm like, Okay, I
gotta I can't just bring her back without a world.

(07:21):
I mean, I could just bring her back here and there,
but I wanted to add that if I'm gonna do it,
I'm gonna do it, because it's not like it's not
that I don't want to do the show. It's just
it's a heaviest little lot going on. Shooting a movie
or a short film or a feature, it's that's a
big lift too, But shooting a series. Not too many
people are shooting series independently without a budget behind it,
without her studio behind him.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Talk talk about your experience from getting the first call
initially to actually play in this, you know, in the series,
and then seeing the life that it's kind of taking
on in its own and like, like Joe was saying,
and Stephanie was saying, like people approaching you with the
street you know, probably recognizing the characters, saying the lines,
like what was that experience like for you not only
first getting the call, but then here and again like okay,
we're going to continue this thing.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well hearing it people really think that I talk like
that or that I'm really like.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Like, oh, I'm not at all.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's the complete opposite, right, It's how It's like.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
They talk like this and they're like, oh, we thought
it was like because I ruined their fantasy do the voice.
I'm like no, when I got the call, there's ready
is a good closing chapter. Seeing these character written so
beautifully and like just it's flowing organically, not he didn't

(08:37):
have the force storyline with her anymore. So it felt
it just felt really good to come back.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's good man.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Now for you guys, there's a lot of you know,
like you said, you said Season two was not scripted.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Not scripted, we outlined it.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
So let me ask you about that, like does that
leave room for a lot of improving right even when
it's scripted and are not scripted? Like for you, how
much room do you have as far as improv and
scenes And do you guys within each other's characters try
to make each other break throughout the whole time, Like
talk about the chemistry between the characters and.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Who's the one that's always doing that?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like you know what I'm saying, trying to keep a
professional but at the same time leave a room for
magical moments that are on screen.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Oh man, real quick before I answer that.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Two, I brought Reese. I brought Reese into the character
into the like a spinoff almost Reese and he I
wrote it to where when I said I write it,
I write it. We did it outline me and I
shout out to my boy figure out films. He and
I wrote the outline together and we shot it together
and he edited the whole thing. So but I was like, Okay,

(09:45):
this is still Bruce's world, and in this world he
lives in this world, his sister's in it. There their
mutual best friends, and it would tay, but there's an
other woman. If if i'all watch season one the finale,
Stephanie's character for Stephanie's care character shows up at the
laundry back. So I've always subconsciously consciously dropping like little eggs,

(10:07):
a little easter eggs, like this is what what we
can potentially do, and I'm moving forward. So I knew
once I did season two and I was like, okay,
this is it season two, But is it really the end?
The last scene is me saying at the door, and
that's not knowing if he's really there or not. It's
a huge cliffhanger, and folks like and so like guilt
trip to me, like, hey man, how you gonna leave?

(10:30):
What's the pointed? If you say it is off, why
would you do that? This whole all season two, they
was wondering if when he was gonna pop up. Then
she finally popped up at the end, so you gotta
do something with that, So okay seasons And on top
of that, the idea of Reese. I built this character
Reese to be this person and E from season one,
bringing them together in season three like almost like coming

(10:51):
together like Class of the Titans. That's why three was
so strong. And then I was like, oh, I don't
know if I'll do this, you know what I mean,
That's why you want to end it on that brought
the two worlds together and Ian Reese had history. Even
in season two, there's a couple of lines that Reese
has with her sister talking about E and back in

(11:12):
the high school they had beef and stuff like that.
So little small things are kind of from shadow what
was going to happen? Fast forward to answering your question
about breaking character. I mean everybody breaks, Yeah, Unfortunately, I'm
probably one of the top three guys, three people that
break character all the time. Because we got some funny
people on the gas. Yeah. Almost everybody that I've been

(11:34):
knowing over the last fifteen years, from stand up, comic,
san comedy to acting is in this project. So it's
a lot of funny people in here, man, so uh
and I know them.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's not like you're just casting.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's people that you have history of it, so I
can imagine things that's probably people don't even know, like
back and forth, whether it's it's lines or you know,
facial thing anything that that that's probably catching them off guard.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I just I was curious about that. Now.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Has there been things that were obviously not scripted that
they were improv I was like, Yo, we gotta roll
with that like that.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
That's the one oh what's his name?

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Oh? Club scene? Season three? Well when the fattiest Gladiat Jackson. Okay,
that's the home shout out to my boy Tyree, hilarious
stand up comics and actor. Knowing him in years, so
I was like, hey, bro, I got this party scene.
I need you to pull up to it. And we
didn't script that we but I know I know what

(12:32):
I'm getting out of here, you know. So when he
gets he gets there, he does his thing and he
basically improvs the scene and Chris Sephone just went with it,
just staying and she's trying not to laugh. You see
the doubt takes. You see her laughing all the dumb
shit he's saying. And so, but of course when you
cut it to the show.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Shutting him down.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, you know, but I feel like.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Said and you are not interested. I feel it. You
start dancing and so like, And we had the whole
room rolling. So we did like three takes of that,
maybe longer, maybe more so stuff like that. That's just
that's what I do it for itm I love those moments.
Of course, the finished product it's great, but the process
a lot of times is also. Well, that was a

(13:22):
long day. He woke up, woke up everybody, Wow, because
there's people, Well, we're not shooting this scene, this part
of the scene. We're shooting this scene and they're over
there on the couch right to sleep. Yeah, that's the thing.
We don't have a studio or like, you're not a
sound stage. We got to shoot nighttime at night. Yeah
you know what I'm saying. So we didn't start shooting
to like seven damn twelve our days. So the sun

(13:45):
is coming up and we got to make sure that
we got to block the light out from coming through
the windows.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
You mentioned You mentioned that too. Man.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
As far as doing stand up comedy, I mean, obviously
the world of not only comedy, but the entertainment business
has changed so much since you got your starting For
the folks that don't know me, we talked about it
last time.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
But you know you you went to UC Berkeley, right,
you see Berkeley got you got your degree over there. Yes, sir,
you started off wanting to do film, and things have
changed throughout the years.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Man has had has the initial goal from jump always
or has it has it changed throughout the years or
is it still that target goal of like what you
want to do still the target? Goals, still the target?
So what is that for the people that don't know filmmaking?
Filmmak films, TV shows? So I want to make my sinners, yeah,
you know, shout out to Ryan Coogler. Yeah, I want

(14:34):
to do that.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
And that was always my goal since I was fifteen,
sixteen years old going into college. Yeah, and so when
football didn't pan out, I was okay with that and
after a while after being a little upset about it, obviously,
right of course, but I knew, I knew films is
what I wanted to do. So I was auditioning for stuff,
booking small things here and there, one two liners on

(14:58):
NCI and stuff like that, and uh, doing standard comedy was.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
The stand up comedy just something that you were doing
at the time, that because it was something that was
natural to you or you just like, man, I just
want to just I got to figure out my mind.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
I had to go on the stage. I love comedy.
So since I was the first time I realized I
wanted to do comedy, I was eleven, That's why. Yeah.
So I started doing comedy in nine, two thousand and nine,
and I got an agent in two thousand and nine,
and I started auditioning for stuff and working and odd
jobs here and there. In odd jobs like I was

(15:31):
a personal trainer back in the day. Then I was
a teacher, and I became a bodyguard, you know what
I'm saying. And then then I was like, enough is enough.
I gotta start doing sketch. So I'm kind of not
It's not a regression, it's not a it's not a
step down. But it was more like, all right, I'm
not booking the rolls that I wanted the book yet,
and I'm not I'm waiting. I'm waiting around too long.
I gotta start doing my own shit. I'm already a filmmaker.

(15:53):
Let me tell my films. Let me tell our stories
through my films. Even if they're small sketches. So I
started doing that officially going are in twenty seventeen, but
I was doing like stuff here and there, rants and
little not tiktoks with little vines.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Man, and that even that in itself like the landscape
of like the platforms have changed throughout the years. How
and this is a question for all of you guys, man,
how did how did you not only navigate the platform
to learn how to pivot because it's easy to you know,
get your audience up on one of Vinue is a
big one, you know what I mean, like get your
audience up on that and then something changes.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's like, is that pivot hard to do? Do you do?

Speaker 5 (16:31):
You?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Do? You roll with the punches?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like how do you guys as creators kind of deal
with everything that's kind of happening these days? I wrote
you said, whatever platform is, I'm gonna get on it
Twitch right now.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
This is a new little bit, yea. But now I
r L Streaming Streamer University and I put.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It on the map for sure.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
So yeah, and this is just being a part of
the Lesbian Homie franchise has just been so monumental. We
just went to dream Con in Houston. Yeah, last weekend.
And when I tell you, they really showed up, they
showed up. I mean there was so many Lessoni and
Homie fans. I mean, this is why you do it. Yeah,
everybody is just so happy to see you. I love

(17:11):
what you guys did, Like this was amazing. So seeing
that and then keeping everything going, like on the different platforms,
learning because you're constantly evolving because you got to learn
or else you're gonna get left behind.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Left behind for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
And that's all I was gonna say too, Like the
platforms changed so much in the what what work that
was supposed to be the thing in twenty nine ten
is completely changed and it changes every every few months
to years now, you know what I mean. So it's
just interesting to hear creators like yourself, like you know,
love to do it. And that's how you know you
have a passion because it's like, no matter what, you're

(17:47):
gonna pivot and figure.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
It out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I say, keep your authenticity, I love that, like mold
it to each platform, but always like your audience can
fill your feel it. Yeah, when you're not being yourself
absolutely with that, trying to merge into different crowds, and
I've seen it go negative and keep trying.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
But then I'm getting back to my let me.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Ask you just eat.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Like, so when people when you said you ruin fantasies
for people when they come up to you, is that
something where you have to play it up the next
go around or do you stay authentic to yourself?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's like, Yo, this is who I am. This is
a character. I know you guys love it, Like how
do you navigate those two worlds?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I just I'm not a stud. I just tell you that,
and they don't think that I'm as tall as I am.
So the conversations usually it's a lot of nervousness and
like I didn't know you're that tall. I didn't know
you sound like that, like oh yeah, like can I
get a picture?

Speaker 4 (18:39):
And then that's you see how it goes far short.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, studs pull up to me all the time, especially
at the beginning. Really it was like or just gay
women like gay women who don't only like like so
it's eat single. I'm like I used to didn't say it,
but then I heard you started saying it when you
are on line and stuff like that, so I know

(19:02):
she's not She's not a stuff right, No, No, she's not.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Lets you know, you.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Let down.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
You're playing that role so fire.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
And the more we do it, the more I marvel
at it. Seeing E in Psephony outside of set shooting
so different from what they're playing. It's night and day.
So that's a that's a testament to their r work,
to the dedication, to their commitment to the character.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, and one thing I love about your job, man,
you always are You're You're good with.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Sharing the spotlight.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know, even even at the release uh event, you know,
I know for you like you, you you want to
you shouting everybody out, you know what I mean, and
you know, making sure that everybody got that attention. How
important is that for you to you know, build with
the team and making sure that people get that recognition
that I'm.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Gonna keep it a hundred even though I was the
actor before this, but I wasn't if you if you
knew me, ten years ago, I was writing stuff for
everybody else. I was writing stuff for my homeboys to
play the homieson who I know were actors. I was
like writing stuff most of the leading guys. Leading stuff
I was doing was for my boy Craig.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Great. In fact, that's why that's my brother in this
whole thing. So a lot of the things I was
shooting if you see it earlier in my day, before
I was before I started going by big jobs. I
mean big job my whole life as far as online
I started calling myself. I started, I changed my handles
to big job and jos him, Yeah, it's more jokes,

(20:37):
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's the life. To
remind you that the online thing, I didn't want to care.
I didn't care about being online. I remember the hommy
shout out to my boy Chase Manhattan and my boy
and tend to dude. They was like, bro, you got
to get a Twitter. Yeah. I was like, man, I
don't do the on line. None of my homeboys I
grew up with they be online to check me out.

(20:58):
They don't be on They might be on Facebook to
to talk to cousins in New York and yeah that,
but like they don't care about social media like that.
And I didn't really either. It wasn't until I decided
that I need to build a fan base because right
now I'm gangster one or a cop two, right you
know what? I'm saying, I'm bouncing one and which is cool.
I play that, but like I could do everything, you

(21:18):
know what I'm saying, So I gotta show it.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
So one thing, one thing I love about that too, man,
is about creating your own right and that's one thing
I always I try to give that advice to a
lot of the artists that are coming up that I
speak with. They get upset and get it discouraged about,
you know, different opportunities that might not come their way,
whether it be radio, not playing in music, or not
getting opportunities to perform at different stages.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
And I'm like, you got to create your own platforms.
You gotta create.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
The Internet has kick the door wide open for these things.
So that's why I love hearing that you said, like, Yo,
there was a traditional way to do.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Things, and you still have that goal.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
But in the meantime, I'm gonna shoot my own films,
I'm gonna make my own.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
TV shows, I'm gonna do all these things.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
And I feel like that's help you, you know, create
the community that you have right now. And it's like
like you said, going to dream Con, you see that
people showing up for you.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Guys had you had you not did that, Like, where
would you be? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You just sat back waiting for the opportunity to continue
to play these different roles and hopefully the studios to
hire you for this.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's like, where would you be at this point?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
So there's power in numbers. Yeah, you know, so when
you create your own numbers, then you create your own power.
And I've noticed that because like I was going to
different auditions and getting rejected here and there, here and there,
and then they start asking about how many followers do
you And once they start asking about the stats and
the numbers behind and send me this, send me your analytics. Yeah,

(22:40):
that's when everything the booking started. So it was like, Okay,
you create your own power with your own creativity and
people will follow.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, what's the importance of collaboration as well?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Because like you said, you know a lot of people
that you you you have on the show, and not
just this show, but every that you do, Like there
are people that you've known for fifteen years. Ye talk
about the power and collaboration, and you know why that's important.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
I only don't I'll collab with anybody if it makes sense,
But my first, my first thought isn't like who's the
biggest TikToker, who's the biggest this. Let me go try
to collabor with him or hearth. I collab with who's
in front of me. When I see talent theory and
I try to cultivate it and try to mix it
in with what I got going on. And it's just
like like she said, the powers and numbers, powers and numbers,

(23:30):
And it feels better when you win in and everybody's
with you and everybody contributed to it. So that's why
I'm a teammate. So I've been playing sports my whole life,
you know, And so I've always had that mentality like, oh,
I'm a team player. I can lead today and I
can follow tomorrow, you know. So That's how I've always been.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
And it's helpful when they the homies too.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
If I can't build a friendship with you, if the
working relationship might not work, you know, I might go
to be we have to be the best of friends.
But they got to be mut mutual respect and hopefully
we have the same aim in mind, and that's getting
to tell these stories, you know. So and I tell
everybody I shoot with. You gotta create your own page.

(24:12):
You gotta don't just be a pretty girl in my
videos or don't be this. Yeah, because that's cool and
a lot of a lot of people have just let
you come on every day for two three four years.
But I would love to be able to say, how
can I help you get your shit on? You know
what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
When we could, I didn't have a platform at all.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
I had a blocked page with nine hundred followers maybe,
and I knew them all, you know, when I started
doing sketches with John and the crew, and so with
that I was able to bring something because the audience.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
I had something the audience wanted to see. But they
were also you know, creators, so it was like, Okay,
I can get into this. And they really did push
me to start a YouTube page too, because I was
not going to. I was just being in everybody else's stuff,
watching their thumbnails go crazy. And then I'm like, Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
When did it click for you? Like, because I'm sure
they told you multiple times? So when for you was
like okay, let me go on and start it up and
get this thing going.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
I think it was when we did a certain sketch.
One of the sketches we did that just blew up
And I was like, I think, you know what, Yeah,
I need to stop dipping my toe in the pool
and jump in, you know. So yeah, it was it
was probably she wrote names super thick from playing God. Damn.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Probably that you gotta because I wanted to be at
the time. During those days, you can't. I couldn't pay nobody.
I was broke ze, you know. So the following the
followers were going up, but the money wasn't there. I
wasn't monetized yet initially. So it's more like, hey, get monetized,
and if you're gonna be on camera doing stuff, you
should be doing something for yourself as well, right for

(25:56):
it to make sense, right for it not to be
like because after a while, it's gonna come like Okay,
I'm not because if you worked hard enough and you
keep keep it consistent, you're gonna get mounotime, right, and
you will make some money. Yeah, some make a lot.
How you work make a little bit, but it's gonna
be something.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
But you can understand why somebody that's watching right now
that has twenty five subscribers, it's like, damn, like how
I mean, it's easy for you to say, because y'all,
y'all up there, man, y'all got the I want you
to speak to those creators from the moment, like you
said when you had almost maybe with nine hundred followers
on maybe Instagram and there was a block page, like

(26:35):
kind of speak to those creators in that moment because
it's easy to say that, but a lot of people
don't know the work that that that you guys put in,
and the consistency comes along with it.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
You scroll on my you scroll on my my ig
long enough, you'll start seeing.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
The blurry videos, so you don't take them down.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Come on, I won't take nothing.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Then.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
I want you to see the progress wow in the process.
So and I was in my room and it's orange
because I got the tungus light on, and I'm on
my iPad just shooting the video and I'm playing three
different characters twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty, you know what
I'm saying. So, yeah, it grew to this. At one
point in time, I started shooting sketches with my camera.
Didn't nobody know who I was except the comedians. They

(27:16):
knew me as a guy behind the camera shooting everybody.
I had to get in front of the camera for
things and start shaking for me. And before that I didn't.
I mean, I'm not shy like that. I'm an actor.
But if I wasn't auditioning for somebody else's project, I
wasn't shooting myself. But because no one around me just
had was camera, was DPS or cameramen, I was the

(27:38):
only guy around me that was able to that knew
how to use cameras. So I didn't have anybody to
shoot me. So I didn't trip off that I'm just
gonna write and direct and edit my content and put
it out that way. But it wasn't really moving like
I wanted it to until I got in front of
the camera. And that's what things are.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
And aime, you had to do something that was I was.
Would you say that was uncomfortable for you, Well, it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
I mean, I'm in front of the I was already
acting already, but not for myself. The uncomfortable part is
asking somebody or trusting somebody, or teaching somebody how to
use the camera. I would literally go welcome to a
guy who I didn't know back in the day, shout
a shout out to the sketch house back in the day,
I was able to my name is John. Hey, I
see him not doing nothing. Hey, you might hold the

(28:22):
camera for me. I'm gon shoot this sketch real quick,
you h man. I ain't know you no camera before,
but real quill. Let me show you this the aperture,
This is the shutter speed, this is lighting and press
record and being your elbows in tight because we don't
have no tripod and this hold it like that. And
just when I say action, push that button. I mean
when I say cut, push that button. All right, man,
I want to, but I'll try. And that's how shot

(28:42):
Tiberias Hiberious. Nobody behind that camera knew what they was doing.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's you talk.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Me held the camera when I was on camera, and
I'm like, I.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Couldn't hire no cameraman. If you look at the first
the first in season one that lets me homie, the
first a lot of the first couple of episodes were
kind of blurry because my focus ring on my on
my lens was bad. And I was able to buy
a camera for the first time during that season one.
So I went from being broke to like, okay, I
got a little check. Say that so and I didn't

(29:19):
have no followers at first when I met When I
met Persephone, she knew who I was based off the
homie that we had. I believe I was doing sketches
with him and she knew him. So he was like,
my homegirl, gonna let us use her her Airbnb to
shoot our series. When me and him wrote a series together.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
That was my hustle.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
So we was like cool. And then she wasn't an actress,
but I met her. I was like, oh, shoot, and
then we end up talking and she was like, hey,
if you need somebody for a video here and there.
I was like, okay, cool, and we I saw if
I if you can't, if you haven't been acting before,
I look at your page, see what you're doing, even
if it's something a happy Birthday day and she's doing
your own girls or your homeboy dudes. After man, let

(30:03):
me see your content. Well long we got too much
up or show me something something. I can pull something
out of you. If I see that you got enough
personality and they are and are able to take direction,
you know what I'm.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Saying, And I think to just go back to what
you were saying about talking to the creators with like
twenty five followers. I think it's your responsibility to grow facts,
you know what I'm saying. So like some people will
be in everybody else's stuff and then you know, when
you're on your own time, you doing whatever. But if
you're not working on your craft, if you're not taking
the time to learn here, learn there, and build your stuff,

(30:38):
then you might stay stagnant no matter how long. Like
you got to change something up. You have to grow
because if you don't grow, then maybe your audience won't.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
It's not exactly so it ain't no finish of it.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Ain't to Going viral is cool. You can go viral,
and then you got to go viral again.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah and again that's the pressure and again and especially
how by you go.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Right And it's not about it and don't even think
about the twenty five characters twenty five bout followers. Don't
think that viral is the answer. Consistency is that's somebody
like she, like you mentioned earlier about being authentic. People
know when they see you like that's why it was
tough because they probably seen her as the study and

(31:22):
when they see but now she has her own content,
she does her own shit, and you can see her personality.
You can see what she's into, and that's what people
gravitate to, not just the content that you put out,
but the person behind the content. I never met him
before yet, but I look at Drew Ski like he's
been viral several times over and over and over and
over again, and that's why he's where he's at. He's funny,

(31:42):
and people bought into who he is, and it's funny,
of course. But when we went to dream Con, which
I didn't even know about, never even heard of dream
Con until she told me about six seven months ago,
I was like, what's dream Con? And I heard a
comic con con and she was like, dream Con is
and she told me about it, and I was like,
you should go next year? I was like should I? Yeah?

(32:04):
I went. I'm going again next year and the year
after that. I'm probably gonna dress up. I don't know
what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
But Batman something like that. But I'm uh. It was dope.
It was a great experience. And it just moments like
that make you look back and patch yourself on the
back of the work you've done, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
So yeah, So those flowers in real time and just
kind of seen the progression and don't.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Be afraid to fail. Oh yeah, I tried to do
my own series. Oh my god, it's okay, Facebook talk
about it. It was the worst thing I've ever seen,
but I put it on Facebook. Got four point three
million views. Now, all the comments the last time I checked,
all the comments were this was a waste of time.

(32:53):
This is the worst content I've ever seen. I can't
get my time back from this. But I was just like,
you know what, I didn't know what I was doing.
I was trying my hand as something, and I was like,
this was a successful failure.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know itself for sure. I mean the eyeballs are there.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
And then, like you said, when when you can go
back to it and see where you've gone to where
you're at, it's like you have a track record, you
have a resume, and people can kind of see that,
like the back to the authenticity part. It's like you're
showing up as yourself no matter what. Like and the
fact that you didn't take it down speaks values you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
I was like, I'm like already getting of millions of
people and seeing it, so I'm just gonna lit up.
But then I think about, like, everybody ain't gonna like you.
You know, everybody don't like Beyonce. That's crazy. So if
everybody don't be like Beyonce, everybody ain't gonna like you.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's a good wayting.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
That's a good way of putting it, because you're right,
like everybody loved Beyonce, but you writed some folks that
probably don't rock quarter.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
But I saw the comment. I saw a comment today.
It's just man, I love all the stuff you do.
Uh but Lesbi hommy, I'm not feeling it. Ain't It's
the first time I've ever seen this. What this is
six years? Six years?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Do you pay attention more to the negative comments than
the flowers?

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Nah? I don't. Typically I don't really look at the comments,
look at the comments, not because I don't care, but
because it's so many. And so if I if I
see him.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Like flex but okay, keep going. The thing is, I
know that's not you.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
But if you see me in person, I'm very approachable.
I'm always gonna accept the love and adapt and and
and so and sometimes I could I do read the
comments when I see them, like I get a notification
I saw that way. It was notification. I was on
my phone. I just happened to see it. I liked it.
I send them a thumbs up, I promise you because

(34:50):
if anything like she just said, like Prefitie just said,
everybody ain't gonna like it, and he said, I'm gonna
continue to I'm gonna continue to support you, bro, but
this ain't it for me.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
And the thing is, that's okay.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
But every comment under that, oh yeah, it ain't crushing,
but I'm like, don't do that. He's given his honest
opinion and everything ain't for you. He might not, you
know what I'm saying, but like I've seld them, those
comments are very very few and far in between, you
know what I'm saying. So I'm okay to see those
because I mean, it's life is real. Everybody ain't gonna

(35:23):
love you, but you do.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Now essence, I want to know what the what's the
biggest takeaway that you've gotten from participating in this series
that you actually now kind of put onto your own brand.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
The consistency. I am a late stage diagnosis of ADHD, really,
so I have I get really overwhelmed easily, and like
I think it has to be perfect. I overthink myself
to the.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Point where I'm not.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I don't do anything Like I have a lot of ideas,
but living in the Inland Empire, there's not really a
lot of content creators, so I have to drive out
to l A and then scheduling, so it's just like
I talk myself out of a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
But man, traffic a little too heavy.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Well yeah, and then the schedules and then my schedules,
like being a mom. So that's why I'm shifting more
into like lifestyle content because I'm a I'm six', two
so like clothing.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Halls shoe, holes just.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Helping other tall, WOMEN i feel, like And i'm more
of LIKE i like the therapy side of, YouTube like
the self improvement SO i could see myself doing like
daily blogs and like podcast type of, things but the
energy behind it just to like just put the stuff out,
there because it's like SOMEBODY.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
I wouldn't say they need your, content.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
But you, Will like somebody could be on the brink
there last day and they're, Like i'm just sick of,
life and then skit or something you post and they're,
like you don't even realize how much you saved me
by making me laugh that one TIME i got that
one TIME i was about to, cry but it's awkward
for crying for the.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
People but, yeah you just never, KNOW i.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Mean and it just goes to show like the impact
that you have on. People.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Man it's like you you think it's a, role and it,
is And i'm sure you take it, serious but it's
like we get into our own worlds of like, okay
yeating onto the next so it's, like, well, no this
is this is somebody's, livelihood like this is their their
their their comic, relief this is the this is the
thing that helps them escape like or this is something
that helps them. Relate SO i love that you said
that because a lot of people don't realize how important that.

(37:18):
Is you know WHAT i mean with these roles and
you know all all of these, things, Man So i'm
glad that You you definitely spoke up on that for.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Sure, man.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
You.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Are, Well i'm gonna get into The max in a
second BECAUSE i want. TO i want to throw some
things out AND i want to see if you guys
can participate with me as, well because you guys have
been dropping gyms as, well and you, know providing an
entertainment relief for the folks out. There but you mentioned
something while we were walking, up AND i want to
kind of get into this as well in terms of
like onto the, next, right how do you live in this?

(37:49):
Moment how do you? Celebrate Because i'm, like your congratulations
AND i know you, right AND i know you you you,
appreciate appreciate all, this but it's always the work ethic
and you go on to the.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Next, well how do you live in this?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Moment but then got multiple other projects that that's happening
down the, line And i'm sure you're thinking about you're working.
On you said you were dropping off some footage somewhere
else before you got. Here so it's, like how do
you balance, this this lifestyle of being a creator doing your,
thing lived in a, moment people appreciating.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
It but at the same, time you it's on to
the next, constantly.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Man cause it's something it's almost like shooting, three put
your hand down and get back on. Defense that's kind
of even THOUGH i didn't play, FOOTBALL i didn't play
basketball played. Football but thank. YOU i appreciate, it but thank,
you thank, You but like all my, boys did you
know SO i would go to the games AND i
just know the sport AND i, know, like don't don't

(38:43):
marvel at you work too. Much that's what the the
premier was for for us to celebrate that if we
went to the Dream con the following, week and that
was a huge celebration and like the journey from all of,
us journey now that we're here doing this, interview doing
the panel a Dream, con those are like celebration days for.

(39:04):
Me so Now i'm back home And i'm, Like, okay what's,
Next BECAUSE i feel like the independent world is not
A it's not an easy place to stay in because
independent doesn't always pay you as much for the lifestyle
that you. Lead you got, families you have, children or
you just have. Bills so a lot of us independent

(39:27):
filmmakers are dreamers are we love we love the, craft, actors.
Comedians SO i know over like you you mentioned something
about like the climate changing shifting over the, Years i've
seen people, nowadays some, people people who were full time
creators are now part time creators because they got a

(39:48):
full time job. Now AND i respect. IT i get,
it And i'm, like, man he or she is so.
TALENTED i hate to see you know What i'm, saying
even someone like, me WHO i might people THINK i
got a gang of. Money money goes into the. Projects
my money goes into the, work you, know, equipment stuff like.
That AND i love to SEE i would love to

(40:09):
be in a position like A Tyler, perry like An Eastern,
ray like A, quinn to be that all the PEOPLE
i came up with provide opportunities for them to make
more money doing what they. Love so IF i just
marvel at the season, four BUT i got another, PROJECT
i want to try to put people in you know
What i'm. Saying so EITHER i can keep keep providing

(40:29):
roles for, them or they can work so work do
so well in my project that their, agent or they
get an, agent or they book something off of something
else and book something book something else based off what
they did with. Me the perfect, world everybody is living
up their dreams whatever that, is you, Know SO i
can't just stand still to keep.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
SWINGING i don't, know to be, Honest i'll see that for, you,
Bro LIKE i. DON'T i don't know when that when
that connected is going to, happen BUT i do see
like the future conversations of like, damn remember when you
know we were trying to get it and trying To
now you know you got your own, studio empowering different,
creators collaborating with different, people things that you're doing, now

(41:12):
but to the to the level that you see yourself.
At you know WHAT i, SAY i definitely see it for.
YOU i feel like we're we're watching. Something we're watching
greatness right.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Bro and to see you guys all collaborating and get
empowering different, individuals putting people. ON i, MEAN i don't
take that lightly at. All AND i love that you do.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
THAT i love.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
YOU i love that you provide your. PLATFORM i love
that you know you're constantly creating a safe space for
creators and you know everybody has nothing but great things
to say about. You so, man keep empowering, people, bro
and keep keep making it happen to the. Max, Okay?

Speaker 5 (41:43):
Max that?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Please? Please.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
MAN i wanted to one. THING i NEVER i never
speak about. It but this is intentional putting women that
look like like like like these women here and the
other WOMEN i should. With you don't see him in
how he would that? Much if you? Do is me?
Now and then it's it's the it's a woman with
one or two. Lines maybe mama is that she's a strip.

(42:06):
CLUB i was, like if you're gonna shoot with, me
you're gonna. Act of course you look, good of course you're.
Beautiful he framed about the. Game, hell, hell all. That
But i'm gonna have you, performing and IF i don't
give you a, personal actual handy handle or tangible, Script
i'm Gonna i'm gonna give you lines That i'm gonna
need you to to. Perform and that's always Been it's
never been, like oh, yeah come over, here just be,

(42:28):
pretty walk down the, street and we gonna see your. Buns, no, no,
no you're gonna you're gonna have to.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Tell him to put the puns in THE.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
I ain't here for, that you know What i'm. Saying
but get it from The i'm like in my, Mind i'm,
LIKE i DON'T i don't want to do the most
but but but WHICH i try to be, so but
LIKE i want to See i've never seen six foot
two as a leading woman, before you, know, so, yeah

(42:58):
so are women with their, curves with their, Size and for,
one most dudes in the industry aren't even big enough
to be next to. Them so it makes sense SO
i understand why a lot of, women But i'm a big,
dude SO i might as well. Catalize, yeah so so
it doesn't look, weird you're, know towering over the leading man,
necessarily so unless you put them heells on, it it
might be an. Issue you know What i'm, Saying hey with,

(43:20):
meals with meals if you need, To, hey you.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Gotta you got a famous line of the SLOGAN a
model to the, Max AND i want to talk to
and you've you've Been you've obviously been dropping gems throughout,
this BUT i want to kind of continue this and
kind of.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Give people how to. Write so how to Maximize we're
gonna go off the theme of how to?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Maximize, Right you've talked about, consistency AND i feel like
that kind of leads into two brand building and you,
know getting your career, together, right but you're also and
you're also a married, man, yes, sir all, right how
do you maximize your?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Marriage you know What i'm.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Saying because there's there's people in the industry and maybe
people that's watching as well that maybe think, that ah,
man you, know you can't have, both you, know oh,
man when you're in this industry, man you gotta you,
know you hear people, say, oh they don't talk about
being married BECAUSE, X y AND, z they don't want
to lose their allure or whatever the case may. Be
so for, you as a black, man as somebody who's, married,

(44:15):
man how do you maximize your marriage and make sure
that your wife is getting that time that you guys
are nurturing that relationship and you, know taking that to the.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Max, Man first of, all you gotta marry somebody that's a.
Teammate that's. Cliche even watching all these podcasts and hearing
that that's really that's that's the. TRUTH a woman for
me that that gets What i'm doing and believes in
What i'm. Doing it understands that she comes first at

(44:45):
the same time for, her for her who comes first
to be. COMFORTABLE i gotta do WHAT i gotta, do
and she knows WHAT i do so and she's she's
the perfect perfect. Wife. Man she, really uh you, know
pours in to your. Man i'm the man that he
pours into and she just she Knows i'm gonna be
gone twelve hour. Days WHEN i get, Home she's sleep

(45:07):
WHEN i wake up in the. MORNING i gotta get
up earlier to go get to get to. Say she
sleep still AND i might. NOT i might talk to
her over the phone throughout the, day but she might
not see me for four days going. Straight she's on.
Trips she don't. Nag she understands that When i'm not
working with me and, her we spend a lot of
good time. Together SO i NEVER i purposely make sure

(45:29):
that she doesn't feel.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Neglected SO i love, it, bro you love it as
a married man, myself LIKE i try to make sure
that we have those conversations because, again you don't see
that too, often you know WHAT i, Mean AND i
mean you're getting it more and more, now which is,
Great BUT i feel like those conversations are necessary because
people have to, see, like, yo you can have a
successful relationship being in this. Business like a lot of

(45:50):
people shy away from it because they feel like it's not.
Possible it's, like, NAH i got a lot of, homies
just LIKE i know a lot of great, Fathers LIKE
i know amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Fathers AND i don't like.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
The the the, narrative the narrative, that oh, man you,
know there's not enough good dads out, there especially you,
Know black. Fathers it's, like all all my homies THAT
i know are great, dads and if you're, not if
you're not a great, Father i'm not not brocking with.
You you know What i'm, Saying, LIKE i just can't
type of INDIVIDUALS i don't align. WITH i have to
be on on at that.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Time at my, wedding all my groom has been the
sip of. One he's not he's just havingny. Kids all
of them are great, dads all of them are. Married
i'm like my core homies for my, school it's only
two of, us and now it's just. One he is
he's not. Married BUT i was like the last of The.
MOHICANS i didn't get married till a Few it'll be
four years In. November, yeah, Yeah So But i'm also

(46:41):
WHEN i Say, Picky i'm a selective and now and
not just not just for to make sure that she's,
worthy make Sure i'm worthy for the. Person so WHEN
i look at, Her i'm, like, man she's dope as.
Hell this is the kind of WOMAN i would want
to be with. FOREVER i got to make sure that
she feel the same. Way, so you know What i'm. Saying,
so so it took me a minute me and. HER i,
KNOW i met her in twenty. Fourteen we didn't get
married to twenty, nineteen and we didn't get exclusive until

(47:04):
like twenty nine, TWENTY i mean twenty twenty. One we
got married twenty nineteen into twenty. Eighteen we kind of
got up made it. Official but good. Time, yeah let
her tell. It it got, slow, Dragged i'm. Saying but once,
again she was. Patient she never nagged. Me she never he, mean,
well it was a long distance relationship at. First she
lived In, Arizona, wow initially the first two. Years so

(47:25):
once we got, closer she moved back home TO calli
and we just made it. Work.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Man and so you had the pandemic, too so that
probably stressed me, Time like maybe not not now.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Twenty we moved and we moved in together literally a
week before the.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Pandemic get the fuck out of, here that's that's.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
AND i was, like you got to go stay at
your mama's house because then nobody know what this. Is
this is bad for everybody's calling the. Coronavirus it wasn't
EVEN covid nineteen yet. Coronavirs, Yeah and she would not.
Move she stayed. Downstairs she slept, downstairs but she was
upstairs every day with me holding my, mouth holding the trash.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
CAME i was driving all that and all.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
That, yeah SO i tried my. Best we went on
the cruise after after we shot the this, season took
her took on the. Cruise, she LIKE i, said she
don't never. Bother she never makes me feel guilty about
the layed, hours make me feel weirried about shooting with beautiful. Women,
Never it's never been an, issue. Honestly So i'm, like,
man you gotta, reward never reward, her but you gotta

(48:26):
make make sure that she knows you appreciate. That you
know What i'm.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
SAYING i love that man to the. Max, man how
do you maximize your?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Health Because i've seen that you you lost with eighty pounds.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
One hundred and sixty. Two, Man so over the, years, goodness,
gracious you have been seeing. It, Man your boy been
getting super round heavy. Man so last season TWO i was,
Heavy season, THREE i got, heavier AND i was, like,
BRO i can't go in the season. Four, Man MIGHT
i make it? Through? Now mind, YOU i ain't had

(48:55):
no no health scared or things like, that but, yeah
but like high blood pressure hit, me and SO i was, like,
Whoa i'm not used to. This EVEN i went to
A i went to a, dinner a brunch with one
of my teammates invited me to a brush from years.
Ago WHEN i was in. College my teammate AND i
ran across some dudes that is older than. ME i
was a, freshman they were, seniors and they looked. Great

(49:17):
it looked like actually figures, still they look like they
can still. Play and this guy ain't see me in
like probably fifteen. Years he was, like, job what's going?
On just like, that he, did like you one of
them real nice dudes. Too so he's not gonna, Clown
he's not gonna talk, shit BUT i can see the.

(49:38):
Concern he remembered me back in the day WHAT i
used to look, like, WELL i used to be able to.
Do and he was, Like i'm proud of, you, man
but like what?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Happened what's going?

Speaker 5 (49:47):
ON i was, LIKE i gotta get it, THERE i
gotta get it click for. Yeah, Yeah so So i'm
gonna want to work out after. This WHEN i second
that we.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Just specifically do like if you can give people the
routine to break, down is it to die at the,
eating the.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Exercise it's THREE i called The Holy. Trinity it's definitely.
DIED i went raw raw vegan for six. Months that's
something that you can Never you can't even give me the,
vegetarian let alone, vegan let alone raw. Vegan you can't
pay me due back in the. Day BUT i KNEW i,
NEEDED i needed to make a change and. Extreme, yeah

(50:19):
so raw, vegans it's. Extreme you don't have to do.
That but if you want to lose weight fast LIKE i,
did healthy LIKE i, did without shots and, shit niggas
be saying ozempic and all. THAT i don't even know
what that shit. Is ONLY i ain't took. IT i.
Ain't the last TIME i took a shot was to
draw blood during the. PHYSICAL i don't do none of
that goofy, ship no, correction let me Call let me

(50:39):
fall back from the saying calling the goofy because everybody
got their own, journey got. You, yeah, Yeah i'm. Tripping
that's me responding to the niggas keep saying and a little. Frustration,
only BUT i don't call it goofy BECAUSE i got
friends who've done, it homies who've done. It you know
What i'm saying so so, yeah so, me let me
scratch the whole goofy. Part that's HOW i really feel about.
It BUT i wouldn't do. That that that that wasn't my,

(51:00):
journey you know What i'm. Saying BUT i had to
get that in that, gym AND i had to cut
the raw. OUT i mean cut all the. BULLSHIT i
can eat, BULLSHIT i love. IT i love healthy shit,
too but it was a raw vegan and the. Herbs
it's a, cleanse it's a full body. Cleanse the herbs
is the. Company shout out to A D i saw him.
Today matter of, FACT ad is a black man from

(51:21):
L a owns this, company a black on company called The.
Herbs didn't you? FILM i filmed. IT i filmed it
THE IK i can challenge on. YouTube i'm actually gonna
start putting on my page as. Well i'm sorry promoting
even more now because if you buy into. It WHEN
i say buy into, it it's no bells and. Whistles it's.
Simple ain't no ain't no, shots there's's no there's no medicine.

(51:43):
Involved it's herbal. Cleans it's a it's organic herbs that
you take every day for twenty, days cleanse your system.
Out you're gonna be on that. Bathroom you're gonna be
in that, bathroom but you're gonna feel, clean you're gonna
you're gonna you're gonna breathe, better you're gonna sleep, better
and you're gonna walk. Better it's just.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
It's immediate changes within those twenty.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Days within seven.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Days. Bro.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
Wow then, YEAH i lost twenty one pounds in the
first seven. Days people, think, oh that's. Impossible it's not
impossible if you're eating, raw working out twice a, day
and the workouts really just corded, cardio and then you're
taking and you're doing the herbal. Clans look in the
back of the, bottle look at. Everything it ain't nothing
that's gonna hurt. You everything is. Organic but the raw
is we're really had to weigh for.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
All.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Yeah, yeah and.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
That's the HARD i, say buy into. It i'm not
talking about buying into some kind of chemical, plan buying
into the mindset Of i'm trying to get this weight.
Off you be you be. SURPRISED i lost one hundred
pounds eleven, weeks, real real, pounds and on my father's.
GRAY i put it all my. LIFE i don't put
on no no, cheating no, no, no, no no, medicine

(52:47):
no shots. Nothing i'm saying. Discipline BUT i, SAW i
saw the the change. Fast i'm gonna keep doing. THIS
i kept seeing, change kept seeing. Change you watched the
show twenty twenty weeks. Long it's a whole. Show every
single week that we dropped the. EPISODE i, mean my
big ass going up this, hill you know What i'm. Saying,
Boy and to seeing me look as big AS i,

(53:10):
WAS i hate seeing. It it's, like, MAN i was
really walking around like that and they wasn't telling. Me i'm.
Joking i'm, like, MAN i see myself in in season,
Three i'm, like you look. Crazy.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Man we had the intimacy AND i had trouble with man.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
OVER i was, like, okay hold up.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Stretch so.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Boy, Yeah SO i was, like, bro you gotta chill.
Out she ain't gonna be, here, MAN i don't have kids.
Yet she'll working on getting, kids you know What i'm.
Saying so, Yeah so that was the. Thing The Herbs
cleans The herbs Dot com AND i knew him, personally
moved into his. HOUSE i moved into his house to
make this happen to every single, day seven days a,

(53:51):
week twice to, day working, out no cheat ninety that
one time he put me, on he put, me he
connected me to a live of detective. TEST i never.
EXPERIENCE i never experienced that for my. Life they put
a machine on me to see IF i was lying
about cheating on my diet and. Backsliding not.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Once, DAMN i gotta check. It idn't even. KNOW i
gotta check that.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
OUT i can't challenge me about this.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Show she was, like what it's like the weight? Loss
nothing about. That and THEN i watched it AND i was, like, yo.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
AND i was falling and plus. Pounds so imagine me
being thirty five forty five pounds off of. Weight that
claims to, you you're not gonna have to do six.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Months you do the support system, too.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
Right oh and my wife didn't go, wrong but she
went vegan for six. Months she cut out, everything she
didn't eat met at. All it's BECAUSE i was doing
just to do, it And I'M i always teach her about,
me SAYING i love you more than you love. Me
BUT i don't, know, MAN i don't. Know IF i
was it's.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Cut, off you can do the.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Same and she was on the. Program but BECAUSE i
was on that, program she did it. Too that's good.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Man what about maximizing your mental? HEALTH i, WANT i
want you to speak on, this and not not to
just throw it at you like, that BUT i want
you to speak on, it, man, like how do you
how do you specifically maximize your mental health in this?

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Space SO i try to Whenever i'm going through, something
because you can love what you do but not love
every part of. It AND i think that's where some
of us end, up like losing motivation determination because sometimes
there's delayed, gratification you know What i'm. Saying so when

(55:25):
you get in those, TIMES i think SOMETIMES i go
back AND i, Say i'm being too hard on. Myself you,
know let me reach out to someone as a part
of my that's part of my. Team to, me you
have to have a, team a support. System they don't
have to necessarily be somebody that you work, with but
just somebody that can show you a different perspective of

(55:49):
what you're going, through got.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
You something to bounce off sounding board For, yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Yeah and you you just don't be so hard on,
yourself BECAUSE i, mean when you stress, out you stop the.
Creativity you stop the blood flow that could be going
to places that you need that energy. For SO i
feel like keeping my mental health is doing things THAT
i like to, do whether they cost or. Not you,
know sometimes, breathing and sometimes you just need to, sleep you,

(56:18):
know you just need to lay, down close your, eyes,
sleep turn on the, fan do whatever you, do work,
out find something that you like to do and take.
That and we have things that we like to do
that we don't do enough. Of we're like apartments with amazing.

(56:39):
Amenities you moved into the building.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
And you don't use.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
It SO i would say that's kind of like mental.
Health you, know we have, it but we don't use.
It AND i think one of the biggest THINGS i
do IS i tell myself THAT i never have a bad.
Day there are days THAT i learned, lessons you, know
and then there are good. Days so on the days
that aren't the greatest for, Me i'm, Like, okay what

(57:11):
DID i learn from This? TODAY i was just telling
them my car got stolen while we were out at
dream Con.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
MAN i thought you was about to say it the
what has? Happened like wait, Today like, no, no, NO
i just got back.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Today but over the. WEEKEND i was, like you know,
what IF i stress out about, it what is that
going to change? Nothing WHEN i get, Back i'll take
care of. It AND i got back AND i took
care of, it And i'm, like, oh this is what.
Happened So i'm learning all kind of, shit you know about.
Whatever So i'm, Like, Okay i'm so glad THAT i

(57:41):
didn't stress out about the situation because somehow it's rectified
itself AND i just had to go through the motions
without stressing out about. It and you, know Now i'm
back And i'm figuring out what to do with.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
It AND i love that, too because it's like you
realizing those moments of what you really can't. Control you
can't control, it there's nothing that somebody got your shit
that there's nothing you can do about. It it is
what it, is and it's less, stressed like you, said
just kind of.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Letting go of, that you know WHAT i, mean enjoying
your time over at Dream con LIKE.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
I, Was, YEAH i enjoyed my, Time AND i was,
like you know, WHAT i could have just been like
calling back home like did you hear? Anything like you?
Know but Then i'm just, like you know, What i'm
not living in the. Moment IF i do, That i'm
going to miss out on these opportunities to connect with
all these wonderful people who are showing me the love
THAT i need to receive right, now you. Know SO

(58:34):
i don't want to miss out on that stressing out about.
Stuff So i'm, Like, okay what DO i learn from this?
Situation don't have my car parked where it was parked no?
More you know What i'm, Saying moving, around moving. Around
So i'm just instead of, going, oh whoe is? Me
all these things are happening to? Me because if you
do that to, me if you start, that there can

(58:54):
be a trickle down. Effect and so and it's really
about how you interpret what's going on in your. Environment to,
me it's, LIKE i, can you, know spill my, glass
break my glass in the, morning and Now i'm thinking
about it every. Day so the person that cut me,
off Now i'm when IF i would have just been, like,
okay let me clean this, UP i might not have

(59:16):
even interpreted that as a, cutoff you know What i'm.
Saying So i'm interpreting things negatively all day because of
the trickle down effect versus letting go and, Saying, okay
that's just something that happened and we're gonna move on
and have a better, day.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Like you said, it just taking it as a lesson
figuring out. MAN i love.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
That what about you with things not only for mental, health,
right how do you maximize? That but also how do
you maximize? Creativity BECAUSE i know in this, space you,
know we go through ebbs and flows of, this and
there's times where we may have those burnouts and like
you were talking about HAVING, adhd like figuring out how
to navigate through, That like how do you maximize creativity

(59:57):
mental health and all that, well mental.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
HEALTH i just started doing. THIS i don't take a
lot of stuff like people say in comments personally anymore
because my thing is, like if you're happy, internally you're.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Not going to go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Online And i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Just, like, So i'm just, like you're projecting whatever internally
you got going.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
On but you ain't even got an icon on your,
page like what are you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Doing BUT i view it as people who have no
power in their real. Lives they come to the internet
to have some sort of power because you could be
anything on the. Internet SO i don't take a person
anymore that helped my mental health a. Lot and LIKE i,
said the authenticity, aspect that helps a lot Because i'm

(01:00:36):
not performing to be anybody but myself and you are
your your own. Self so as long as you maintain
that and cultivate that and perfect that will perfect it
in a healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Way it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Beautiful and it's like so much stuff gravitates towards you
when you're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Authentic now you spoke on being a. Mother what about
motherhood for? You, like how do you maximize?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
That and you, know making sure that the little one
is happy and you, know at the same, time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Make sure the career is stable as, well good co.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Parenting AND i also keep that part of. IT i
keep a lot of my personal life very separate off
on the internet because the internet's weird with children and
that's just a certain THING i just don't want to
share with the world for that. Reason and also it's
just like it's my, boat that's your.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
World and it helps a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
LOT i love. THAT i love.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
It, man the season Four Lesbian homie out right, now
give them the different ways that they can, watch BECAUSE i,
know as of.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Right now they can get the entire season. Correct we just.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Dropped the first episode on YouTube today and Every tuesday after,
TODAY i mean that's them for, Yesterday Every tuesday at
six pm will be dropping each. Episode so we got normal.
Weeks we just dropped it. Yesterday and if you don't
want to wait ten weeks to watch all the, show
you can go to big joy dot com and watch
it and binge watch it and purchase it. There you

(01:01:56):
can watch it in one day if you want it to,
okay some, hours but, hey but if you if, you
if you don't want to wait to see how things,
unfold you can just watch it. Today you can go
on to big job dot com and sign up and
get that go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Now for somebody that's that's listening right, now watching right,
now they're, like, Damn I'M i even know about season?
One season? Two how can they catch back up from?
Two all the seasons to be to be it's all
on tob.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Type in season on, Gratulation thank, you thank, you. Thanks season,
one two and three are on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
To B, okay there we, go, man so they can
catch on up with the lesbian homie and all the other.
Endeavors big, job thank, You, god thank you so much
for coming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
THROUGH i appreciate you as.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Well man the same thing for seven and we got
some history go back a little Bay. Man So i'm
glad we was able to kind of make this a
full circle. Moment anything that you want to share with
the people before we get out of here Before big
job dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
For, sure you're At you're at.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Ye how can they how can they get in contact with?

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
You my skits page On instagram is Exactly my girly
pop page is WHAT i call it is essence cash
with two who is at the end.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
That man pull up to My Thick threads. PODCAST i
do that With Patrick. CLOUD i have a travel show
Called We tripping also With Patrick. Cloud and then if
you want to see me like trying on some, stuff
you know for The Curby. GIRLS i do my clothing
halls on YouTube and much, more but perseph on. Everything

(01:03:25):
i'm pretty much verified on, everything and If i'm, not
it might be a fake. Page it might be a fake.
Page be your Belly bob in the, basement.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Make big joh Hey, Man Big.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
John all, platforms it's two g's B I G g
J a h on, YouTube I G, twitter, TikTok, Facebook,
Snapchat i'm over there man threads as, Well Big job To.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Geez there we, go, man.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
Go to Big job dot com and check out season
four of The Lesbie homie is out right, now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
That's right, Man i'll look forward to future conversations with
all of you. Men congratulations on the, success keep on,
going keep on thriving in this, space keep on being
an example for those that are on to come. Up
and this is just fire for us having this. Conversation
we always like to keep it. Homegrown Chuck, dizzle live and.
Direct we'll catch you next.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
Time it's neg the show For shure