Coyote Break Down LA Slang, Fatherhood, Shaq Collab & New Album with Statik Selektah

West Coast duo Coyote pull up Live & Direct with Chuck Dizzle for a raw and hilarious conversation about consistency, culture, and carving their own lane in hip-hop. With the deluxe version of their album yoteLAndia set to release, Ladies Love Guapo & Ricky Blanco open up about fatherhood, brotherhood, independence, and turning setbacks into strategy. 

This Home Grown conversation includes ⬇️
• How the Altadena fires postponed their first interview and what’s changed since
• Lessons from touring Europe with The Game & collaborating with Shaq, B-Real, and Ab-Soul
• The mindset behind yoteLAndia and creating a universe around their brand
• Fatherhood gems & why being present matters more than perfection
• Building community from the barbershop to the booth

🎙️ Catch the full conversation with Coyote and their latest album yoteLAndia out now.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:07):
All we back at it.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Chuck Dittetle Live and direct Man Live here from the
real ninety two three studios here in Los Angeles, a
right southern California, shouts out to all the iHeart stations
that's repping with your boy, Appreciate the loving and you
know that those that are subscribed to the Homegrown podcast,
you know, I always like to bring folks in here
with super dope stories, people that you know a lot
of folks I have, you know, an interesting story with

(00:30):
the background with and these fellas are no different. Man,
Coyote is here. We got ladies, love guappo yea vertuos.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
But back in the day, yo, Man, I appreciate y'all
pulling up.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know, we finally got this thing in man.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the short period of time, I feel like from
the last time we were supposed to have this conversation,
y'all get so much in that short period of time.
From headline, your first show in LA dropping a couple
of projects. Most importantly, I think standing up for a
lot of the injustice that's been going on in the community. Man,
just using your power, and I think that that's what
hip hop is all about, man.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Somebody gotta do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Absolutely, Man, I appreciate y'all pulling up man and just
tell me how are y'all feeling that? Because I feel
like you are always working, which is a great thing.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Oh fuck. I mean we're in that same path like
once we drop something, we're already working on the next
two three things, Like we're in the studio earlier polishing,
like this album we have with Static Selecta, it's pretty
much already done. We just gotta like really like.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Nitpickture's kind of like the climate we're in right now too, right,
Like you have to just stay consistently with dropping because
the internet and the phone, you don't drop nothing for
a week, everybody's like, damn, what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Go?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
So it's kind of like you have to have whatever
you have done for the next two months ready to go.
You know what I'm saying. That's what keeps the ball going.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Did that create any unadded or unnecessary pressure? Is that
something that you guys feel like you stepped up to
the chat throughout the years of like, no, we stepped
into this business. We know what this is, what this is,
and we kind of challenge ourselves to do that.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I think for us, like you mentioned Vic virtuals SO
and stuff, we've been doing it for so long that
we've always like recorded a lot, Like even when we
were nobody, nobody knew us. Like one thing that's been
consistent is us making music. So that part is kind
of easy. Like so now we do it a little
more intentional and and we lit a fire under our

(02:28):
own ass because it's moving, but it nothing really changed,
like any any chance we get we're recording, so by
the time people hear one thing, like we're already super
over it and it's already like we already have the
next three steps like playing, playing ahead so and a
real artist. I feel like like you have to create
so the whole. Like it's not a drag to me

(02:49):
because like if I go too long without doing it,
like I have to do it, Like even if nobody
was listening to me, I would still do it. So
that part, to me is the easy part.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's something that Russell often says too. Man, I'm sure
you guys adopt the same philosophy. It's like you gotta
watch what you're saying. It's not like a lot of
people say, oh, man, I gotta, I gotta do this now,
you don't gotta you get to you know, you have this,
this this honor to do it, and you're able to
kind of like provide for your families doing this thing.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Just went to the pop up shops you just guys
just had the other day.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Congratulations on that one hundred vinyls like in the common
where now artists aren't even selling their own you know,
music like that or streaming like that. So for you
guys to kind of build your own community, what is it?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
What does it take to kind of like build that up?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know, you say you've been doing it for a while,
but you know a lot of people have been doing
that and haven't been able to kind of like nurture
their own community. So what are some of the tips
that you can give people to kind of do that?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Mean?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
You know, well, we're trying to build, like you're saying,
like our own community. We want to make it feel
like a family. So we want the people that are
supporting us to be able to touch us, to be
able to see us. When they shoot us a message,
we reply back, you know what I'm saying, So we
don't feel like out of their reach because they're order us.
And at the same time, what's what's a reply back

(04:03):
or a message back and to do it's just gonna
make their day better if anything, you know what I'm saying,
just to you know, have our fan base feel more
like a like a family, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And it feels that way. Yeah, And that's where everything
is headed. Like if you even see like the biggest artists,
like it's not that easy. The machine can't press the
button no more so now you're seeing a lot of
these big artists doing what we've been doing out of
necessity and only us l Russell, Larry June, a lot
of people that have paid the way like Nipsey Hustle,
Like there's been a lot of people doing that gave

(04:37):
you the blueprint. Now you just gotta find a way
how to make it your own. And you see, like
I'm seeing big ass artists like, oh, you guys are
doing what we've been doing. Because now everything's headed to
like the niche audience, Like you don't have to listen
to the radio, you don't have to fucking watch whatever
channel was on cable TV back then, Like you get

(04:57):
to choose who you want to listen to so, uh,
for the advice for the artists is trial and error. Man,
just keep trying ship block the noise. Like, if it
don't work, it don't work, Like, don't get discouraged. And
if you really love to do it, you're not in
to care, Like you're just gonna keep on doing it.
So that's what happened to work for us, man, Just error.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
And I've noticed that, like, we have these tools in
front of us that you know, I think we a
lot of times take advantage of, or you take for granted.
You know, it's like we got these phones, we have
social media, we have these platforms that we can actually
get on to really like enhance the people's experience and.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Get in front of people's faces.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Man, talk about the moment you realize like, oh okay,
we have to really kind of embrace what social media
is and how that has been able to help you guys,
leverage your relationships and you know, the eyeballs and attention
on you for the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I think it shifted when we got in the industry.
I guess you could say, I like to quote, we
try to go to every session, every meeting, every this
and we're studio sessions with big people, right, and even
seeing like the money labels were blowing on people and
seeing that it wasn't working, like no one knows what

(06:10):
they're doing, Like from the biggest label to the smallest,
nobody knows what they're doing. And we wasted a lot
of time like just just chasing the industry and wanting
to be in rooms. And I think finally we're like,
you know what, fuck that, Like we got we got
the people here, like we got we shifted our mind state.
Instead of chasing the industry, we started chasing fans, or

(06:31):
not even chasing fans, like just trying to build fans.
And we stopped going to the sessions. We stopped being
outside every night to everything that came up unless it
was mutually beneficial or it was a friend of ours
or you know, there's two exceptions. But we were literally everywhere,
even in places that we didn't fit in or whatever
you want to call it. So once we shifted, like

(06:53):
the industry will come to us if we have fans,
So let's build fans. And a few things worked, so
we saw that it was working. I'm like, look, fuck it,
like our reels are going crazy. Let's keep doing this,
like if we get the the looks, we get the looks,
but we never were chasing. We stopped chasing like the
looks or the industry, for lack of a better word.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I feel like it's one of those things where people
on that side end when I'm saying that side of
your position of being successful at it, and it's no knock,
but it's easy to say that because you've you've gone
through the trial.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And there and you see what works. But for whatever reason,
is there's somebody that doesn't believe that. They're like, well, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Easy for them to say because you know, Shack hopped
on the song with them and you know, shit was
going crazy not knowing the work that you put in there.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
But is there anything How did Shaq even see us?
You know what I'm saying, Like people forget that part,
like how did even get to his algorithm? You know?
So the whole easy to say, like we probably used
to say that stuff too, like oh, if we had
the freestyle on this platform or that platform, we will

(07:58):
be going crazy too, Like it's just human nature.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Everybody has excuses, but it's consistency what it comes down to.
You know what I'm saying, like, just put in the work,
because you can't cheat the work, you know what I'm saying.
You can try to cut corners and do whatever, but
at the end of the day, like the worst is
gonna fucking show itself, you know what I mean. And consistency,
stay consistent, and just be ready when the time comes
to present your skill, your talent, whatever the case may be,

(08:23):
and it'll happened for you.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, And I think, in like a darker mind state
to me, I was like, man, I'm gonna die one day,
Like when I'm holding onto this stuff for like I'm
holding on for the right moment, the right time, afraid
that this might not do that well. Because you know,
we're still human. It affects us a little when you
think something's gonna go crazy or you drop the bag
on something and it does nothing. You know what I'm saying.

(08:46):
It doesn't feel great. But I think once like that
really clicked, Like, man, doesn't matter anyways, you know, detach
yourself from like the results and then just go and
block the noise. And I think, now where the real groove.
I'm completely detached, Like I don't right, I don't care
what goes well or what doesn't Like I don't I know,
I'm a hit eventually, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So what goes into a day to day with you
guys in terms of like not only creating music, but
kind of figuring out what goes into the brand because
I'm sure you know, you guys are two.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Individuals as well. The duo is there, but you.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Guys probably have individual mindsets and you know, one person
rocks one way the other person rocks another. What's the
difference between ladies Love Guabo versus Ricky Blanco? Like what
do you guys collectively bring to the table. But at
the same time, what is like, Oh, yeah, I'm the
one that is this just.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Like Yang and Yang, you know what I mean, whatever
I lack in he takes the wait for and whatever
vice versa, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
But like all the crazy dope ideas come from my side,
super cap nah nah Yeah, if we both have good ideas,
that's for sure. He's better at naming stuff, like like
he came up with the coyote name and like Yodi
Landia name. Uh, He's good at like little stuff that
they're like a concept to be like, oh, what if

(10:05):
we do something like this? And then I have ideas too,
like concepts and stuff like that, but then I'll like
execute them. I'm like artists and manager. Like if this
was like Wu Tang, I'm like Rizza and you know
what I'm saying and fucking method man, and this motherfucker's old,
dirty bastard.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
But like everybody has that purpose, but.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
You know, when it's time to put it on, he
puts it on, man, and and it makes uh, the
brand or the group easier because we don't combat each
other too much. Like if I'm like, bro, we gotta
do this, We're doing it, He's not gonna combat it.
He might try, and I might try, Like I don't
really like that idea, but you want to try it,
let's do it. So it leaves more space to just

(10:51):
try ship without like what the fuck man, I told
you that she was gonna work for this, because we've
been in groups like that, and then it ends and
then that's it. You can never be on the same
page where we're kind of more passive like yeah, whatever,
that sucks, I told you whatever, move on.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
And it goes to the part you were talking about
earlier about like detaching yourself from the experience, like Look,
if it works, it works.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
If it doesn't, go on to the next shit.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Don't even matter anymore. This shit lives for one day,
all right, yeah, onto the next.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah. I think that's the thing. Like your your duves
and your l's don't live too long, so you can't
live too much with your ws either, because you get
a dove and it's cool to right high. But yeah,
you could live for it that day. The next day
you already gotta be like, all right, how we're gonna
top that, or what's the next move? Not even thinking
the topic. Just keep on creating, because when you create,

(11:40):
you're gonna top it. You're gonna make something dope again
until you don't. As of now, I feel like we
just keep getting better and better and doors keep opening,
and as long as we keep doing we're supposed to,
I think the trajectory will continue to go up. Yo.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Speaking of jobs, man, one of the one of those
experiences I got a chance to see for myself man,
as you guys in that stage and headline of your
first show and talk about how major that was.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
And just being in the moment of like, yo, we
did that.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
You know, we sold out this crowd packed, you know,
folks out there grabbing, merged, the city came out and supported.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
But how important was that that moment for you guys?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Man? It was stressful as fuck. Man.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I ain't gonna lie about letting ship just slide off
of us. But that day I was stretched out, man,
because I was like, damn, what if nobody shows up?
You know, a whole bunch of things and then, you know,
we like to take our time with what we do,
so we like to put in time and effort. And
then we had the whole stage set up, We had
fucking outfit changes that we were going to do. That

(12:40):
we did, but it was completely butchered when it happened.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
We're over ambitious that.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Overly come out the sky right.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Flying, flying like Chris Brown.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Right my mama. I called my cousin because he works
for a staging company that my uncle's on, and I
was like, bro, how possible to get us down from
the roof and then I'll go check it out. He
checked it out, like there's no roof, ain't no room here.
But if that would have been, we would have came
down just because we wanted to like really like make
them stamp, like we pop all all kinds of ship,

(13:14):
like we're you know, some of the best to ever
do it, blah blah blah, Like you gotta deliver in
every aspect visually live. So the stage was big enough
for us to like build a set, which we build ourselves,
painted ourselves, installed it ourselves. But yeah, that day we
didn't take on advice. We were in our fucking head.

(13:36):
I had a terrible time.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
You guys enjoyed the show man not during the performance,
not at all. We're just in our head the whole time,
and me and him like telepathically, we're communicating like man,
going terrible, going terrible right now. And usually when we
perform like Ship, I'm up there killing Ship. I'm not
thinking about nothing, flow State having a great time. Out
of all the shows, our first show that we just

(14:00):
I had to throw and sold out. Man, we're up
there fucking having the worst time of our lives. But
now in hindsight, looking back at it, it wasn't that bad.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
We're just we re saw the footage, it looked like
a good time. I just didn't have a good time.
It's because we were again the over ambitious part. We
started getting fixated on the little things that didn't go right,
like someone was supposed to show up that didn't, which
was going to be time to change. And then there
were certain little things and the DJ was dropping bombs
in the beginning of one of my verses, I didn't

(14:29):
catch the beat, so then I just got fit in
this one that's outfit change I want to I can
just tell he's like, look like hell right now. So
we were just fixated on those three little moments, and
so I wasn't able to have a good time, like
I was in my head the whole time, but I
was projecting I was having a good.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Time the hell of a jock as somebody that was
in the crowd and just experiencing it. You guys put
on a phenomenal show and even here about building to
set yourself and it just it speaks to the passion
and the dedication that you guys have to your craft, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
But we learned a lot that show, because now I'm
not as like even if we have a meticulous plan,
like I'm like whatever, I'm here to show my songs
to some people, like we'll wing some of the stuff.
Like let's not be too like fixated on like too
many of the details because they you don't leave room
for error and room for like to freestyle something that
may be dope sometimes like the dopest sh it just

(15:27):
comes in the moment. Yeah, So I learned that show, like,
you know what, I'm gonna just fucking relax, just have
a good time, because that show had every element to
be a great time. Like the whole city came out,
we packed it out. I had family there, people I
loved there, so I had every everything to have a blast,
but I had a terrible time.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's a good lesson for people that are listening to
or watching, Like, Yo, just because something's in your it
doesn't mean that.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
The world is gonna be see it.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
And the way that you guys still project it in
the way of like not letting it get to you
to the point not.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
To the show, show walk off stage.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Then we gotta find that.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Day we stayed a little Yeah, but yeah, we're doing
it for so long. We could get on auto pilot
where you know, we know what we have to do
to get a good show. But again, when you're thinking
too much, it's hard to have fun. When you're having
fun is when you're no longer thinking you're just going
that those are the best shows.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I would assume that that performing for you guys, and
you correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Performing.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Do you enjoy that more than actually recording or do
you Is there like a fine balance between both. It's like,
now I really like this aspect of recording, but this
aspect of performing.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
A good show is hard to top.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, it's nothing like the high you get from like
when you just kill the show in front of a
lot of people. It's the best, the best feeling like
during and a little after, you know, in.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
The creative process when you just feel like you just
struck magic.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Go, that's also high you get, you know, like we
got something, you got something.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah. Or if you're like if you're like feeling a
way and it's like therapeutic when you write like a
therapeutic verse and it's like you feel like all right,
I got it. Yeah, that feels great. That's when I
like to get in there the most, when I feel away,
like because then I could I know something wants to
come out of me type of things.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Pause.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Do you prefer.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
To create in a space with a lot of ship
or is it like na solo may me get my
moment alone.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Let me write that's the best moment for me.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, I'd rather the less people the better. But it doesn't,
it doesn't as long as it's not affecting the creative
process with the people there, it doesn't really matter. But
for like we get our best shit off on. It's
either me and him or just me by myself.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, likewise, today I was in there pretty much by
myself all day.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I haven't been able to record Lady because it's too
damn hot in that fucking garage.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Man pass out. So you're saying what a day looks
like though too. My day to day was I woke up,
dropped my son off of school, got some coffee, film
the real one of the studio, lay some ship, picked
my son up, well one of the studio first. That
was the first thing. I went back to the stool,

(18:25):
hit the gym, said stool again. Now we're in here, man,
that's today. Do you keep.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yourself on track? Same thing for yourself. Do you keep
yourself on track with the day to day actions or
it's like okay, it.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Is it as important like do you have like a
checklist or it's just like nah, we just kind of
figure out what we want to do.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, I'm more like I like to wing it whatever
comes comes. Like even I forgot we had this today,
I completely forgot.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I agree to this, God too.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
I'm gonna be on time, even I do only we
have a show on Friday, too, completely forgot about that.
Just show up and just do my thing commercial feel
tomorrow commercial right now, I'm I'm an artist manager.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I gotta tell him, and I gotta tell our managers
to tell him again. Make sure you tell him. I
already told him. I don't know if he remember. So
it's a lot of that, do you guys, Oh we go.
We become a checklist when it's down to the wire though,
Like right now, I feel like the static ship is
so close to being done where I just sent him
a checklist, like, bro, you gotta finish this song, this

(19:33):
on this song, polish this song. So once it's down
to the end, then we get a little more meticulous.
But like while we're creating now, it's very free, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Gotta be.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
A good experience to not be so by the book
until it's time to actually be about to because I
can you can probably drive yourself fucking crazy every single day,
you know, in addition to the family ship, Like, how
do you guys balance that?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Fatherhood and yeah, I'm a dad my, So I notice
there's days where it's like so locked in with this
someone to be present, but at the same time, you
have this opportunity to kind of, you know, do what
you love.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Man, So how do you guys?

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I just I just don't want this to feel like
a job. I think that's why I keep it that way,
because once it starts feeling like that and I start
feeling pressure to do shit, I'm not gonna want to
do it, It's not gonna be fun for me no more.
I'm like, why I'm gonna stress myself out for this? Yeah,
my mental health is way more important. So man, all
that shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
So I'll say micromanaging too right time, Like there's time
to do everything, like be a dad, hit the gym.
If you have a job, you can still work and
still hit the stud a couple hours a day. Don't
have to be every day, but you just have to
pencil everything in. Like that's what I feel like. And
if you have like a significant other, you have a

(20:49):
child with then they got to be on the same page.
And like, my girls schedule shit with me, like yo,
this day from this time and this calendar.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
No.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I just trying to have a calendar up here to
remind me every day. And I'm like, oh shit, I forgot.
But I'll block I have a schedule, wh I'll block
shit out. But sometimes I don't. I don't write what
it's for, and I'll be like, hold up, what the
fuck I blocked this out for? And then my girl
been like, what the fuck we got this or that?
I'm like, I told you, yeah. So just micro manager.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
What dad advice could you give to other fathers out there?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
You know? And it could be pertaining to you know.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Navigating both worlds, but just in general, like just his fatherhood.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
What is that experience taught you? What can you teach
other fathers out there?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Man?

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Be present, Be present when the time is to be present,
you know, put the phone down, yea, look them in
the eyes, have a conversation, be present.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Do little shit with them, Like it just takes an
hour a day to do something they want to do,
you know what I'm saying. Whatever, whatever it be, sports, drawing, whatever,
like whatever your kid is into like take an hour
and that's pretty much like it'll fulfill whatever the fuck
they need for the day. Advice man like.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Don't be afraid to put out, pull out that while
I checked that. Your grandma used to hit you with too, man,
coo little out every now and them straight?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Does that make it? Does it make it hard? Because
I feel like.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I don't hit my son my kids either.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
The ice grilling a little bit man to do it,
that's all that's Those things don't require you to hit
them like.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
There is certain instances we give them a little slapping
in the hand. It depends how old they are, but
most things like if you say it pretty sternly, like
that's enough. Bro.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
So I got to my oldest one who's seven, works
like a charm. I can look at them a second one. Man,
it's getting a little put the I'm at the point
I'm just like, okay, this this base ain't working.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
He thinks, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
He'll give me the ice grilled to like what you're
gonna do? Hey, man, you only two. What's happening right now?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That challenge of like I didn't nobody told me that
may be one person on me that that having too,
I thought I was getting I have two boys. I
was like, okay, well get the same same kind of personality.
No one is completely different than the other one.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Bro, Yeah, I'm bad he got the little bro syndrome.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Man? Or is it maybe because now your attention is
split in two?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
So maybe that's my wife was saying we had so
much time with the first one that this one is
like I don't, I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't even think it's a cry for help.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
But it's just like he can get into other ship
because it's the the attention is divided a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I remember my son was like one. That first year
was wild because I wasn't really there at all and
I was noticing like one maybe not he's a little kid, right,
But I know I wasn't even like top three that
people that he liked I would get home like my wife.
He gets all excited my mom. So I think it
was like a reflection of like what I was doing.

(23:53):
I was like, what am I fucking not doing right?
And I and I tried to switch it back. I
can imagine having two kids. It's hard to be like
the same with both kids, like because now you divided
like one gotta take that one, one gotta take this
one kind of want.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
You know that it's it's different things. Get him to
like my my first one, he's he's more into like
he he's not as physical as my second. When first
one we can, we can go take a walk.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
We be fine. The other one likes the rough house
and it's like it's completely different. So it's different experiences
from from that's cool. Yeah it's for me.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's shown me, uh, the balancing and different sides of
my personality and just as a parent, like okay, it's
a challenging thing for the best.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I love it.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I feel like it's the best experience for myself and
I can.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Imagine that you guys are as hands on as you
are the same thing for yourself.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I love it. I want another one too, just don't
have it yet. But how how part are they? For
four years?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
One? Seven? Ones? Too?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Are the close?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah they love each other.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
But the little one, he's he's the bully, so like
beating up on the older one. I keep telling the
older like, yo, who is as it's okay, yeah, you
know that's that's what it's about.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
But that.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Man talk about that the album. Man.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I know you guys have got a lot of things
that that are that are in the works right now. Yeah,
but you know, building that catalog, man, talk about the
importance of that and getting that under your belt and
in this day and age, why that's an important thing
for you guys.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Ship Man, I saw some shit where they say die
empty as an artist, that's your only job. But die empty.
Like I think at one point people used to be
so precious with songs and this, that and the third.
But it's like, I mean, there's some ship that should
never come out right as artists. But overall, it's like,
stop overthinking it. Build the catalogs. At the end of
the day, that's how you're going to make a living too. Like,

(25:46):
the more songs you have, the more money you will generate.
And it's your art. Just put it out there, man,
and you'll be surprised and next thing you know, you
might be making a living off it. You know, Willis
will say a hundred songs making a hundred dollar dollars
a month is ten thousand dollars if you look at
it like that, You know what I'm saying. So instead
of looking at for the big win, like little winds

(26:08):
stacks up. Yeah, sure, and K passively is not bad.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Man, people, that's not even doing that nine to five.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, just figured out what did you guys learn from
the situation, Cause you guys tour the game right years ago? Man,
So what what what experience that you learned from touring
that was an overseas situation.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, and you're.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
From that and from my from my from what I remember.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
That was that prior to the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Like it was right before and during.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So did you guys get a chance to like really
tours it got cut off.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
We really toured. We hit every city. We damn your
COVID too, the tour. Yeah, yeah, we're up there fucking
performing with fever and master spreaders. We were hell of spreaders,
touching the people, fitting and with COVID just passing it
along everybody. But yeah, well we learned from that tour

(27:01):
ship not to go too hard in the beginning, because
then you got forty other nights that you got to
relive the same night. Yeah, you know, you gotta pace yourself,
not get too fucked up.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I learned that we could rock any crowd too, even
if they don't know who we are.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's got to be like people don't even know the
language you speaking, right, and then they rocking.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
And we didn't exist at that time too. We had
no music out or nothing, so it was just an idea.
We created the idea and the next thing you know,
we were on tour. We're like, what the fuck? So yeah,
we learned like that we could really rock out, Like
we're out there rocking. It wasn't that surprising. But what
else did I learned? Personalities?

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Is one of our strong points is performing. Yeah, we're
bringing energy every night.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, because Game was like, man, he's about everybody on tour.
He's like, everyone gets booed. He's like, so if they
on trip, I'm talking about everybody everyone on tour. He's like,
everyone's been booed, so don't trip if they brew you.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I was like all right once. Once, I was like
all right, cool. But then with those personalities too, it
sucks being like in close proximity for that long with people.
So you just got to stay in your own lane.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Learning how to manage personalities, being with different people.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Just don't talk to nobody. If we're not performing, I'll
go on my bunk. I talked to nobody.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm gonna do my own thing.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
So you you you know, obviously linked up with with
with legends like like be real, you know what I mean?
Exhibit like what is something? And a lot of other
motherfuckers too. What are things that you're you're taking away
from from them through these experiences?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Because I'm sure it's bucketless moments.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's like, Damn, I'm in the studio with these motherfuckers,
I'm rocking out crowds.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
They know who I am.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
But but what are you taking from them when you
actually see them in their element?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Ship man taking from them?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Like exhibit the way he records his process, it's pretty dope,
like he he he writes it pretty quick and then
he just gets in there and punches in. But what
do I take from that? I mean, I still have
my own process, So I'm just in there like stars
struggle a little bit, like damn, we're really making this
shit happen, Like we're really in this motherfucker right now.

(29:24):
We're doing something right, you know what I mean? Yeah,
that's pretty much I take. They're good people man like
exhibits a good ass person. Be real, it's a good
ass person.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Like everyone we've worked with that's like super popping or whatever,
like highly respectable, our fucking good ass people, and they
pay it forward and they do it for like no,
it's not about money, it's just about we rock with
each other. We rock it like uh. And then you
meet people like in the lower level and that's when
like the that's.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Like talk to my management, like, bro, what.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
So your cousin? Yeah, so I learned like those motherfuckers
are good people. So I try to like keep that
in mind, like they're being blessed for a reason. I think,
you know what I'm saying, And I would if we
ever get to that level or when we get to
that level, I will definitely. I'm definitely gonna do the
same thing they've done to us, like kind of taking
us under their wing and just showing us love. And

(30:20):
there's like a mutual fanism there, which is wild to me, Like, well,
you guys like our ship. That's crazy, Like I don't
think sometimes I don't think we're doing shit to be honest.
Sometimes it's just like so and it school. We can
just text them like like that's it's crazy. We just
got an unreleased song with we got Shock and be
Real on the song. It's just crazy. Just text them

(30:43):
like yo hop on this. The next day they're like, boom,
did you did.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
You think like ten years ago or guy started like
that you would get to this moment.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
The shock thing is wild, like be real and all
those things in the same sport. It's like, all right,
this is plausible.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Yeah, Shack was supposed to happen. But Shaq was one
of those ones. Was like, what the fuck is Shack?

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Super random?

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Crazy?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
It's still surreal like when he because he just texteds
it's regular. It's like I'll text my brothers like that. Texteah, Yeah,
he FaceTime maf you see some bullshit online. I mean,
what the fuck was at So it's it's wild, man,
It's still surreal as fucked, but it's super cool man.
It just shows me that I don't know on some

(31:34):
spiritual ship, like I don't know, man, you vibrate at
a certain level. You started tracking certain things man, because
there's no real especially when they reached out. We weren't
that big yet, like not to where we are now,
which we're still not big. But I was like, how
the fuck did that happen?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Like, I mean, I think to your point, Ricky was
like the consistency was there right for one but two
and it goes into the brand, which I think is
double about you guys, is that you guys look like something, right,
and you got that energy of like, yo, we are something,
whether you.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Guys see it or not.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
It's like I kind of compare you guys like in
the world of wrestling, right, it's like, you're gonna create
your world, your own environment, whether people fuck with or not.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
If you're a wrestling fan, you're gonna love it. If
you're not, you're still gonna be like, damn, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
What is going on over there?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And I think that that's a testament to the brand
that you guys kind of set out. Was that intentional
from Jump or was that something you kind of learned
along the way.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I think we learned along the way from Jump. We
kind of wanted to fit in with everybody, I guess
until we figured it out like man, fuck everybody, let's
just create our own thing, and that's what made it
more niche And I think that's that's a good thing.
Now it's working towards our benefit.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, and taking like we're students, man, so learning like
how WU tang Over branded and how they branded their logo,
and like you see the logo, you know what it is,
even if you don't know them, you know what I'm saying.
So like even like a lot of the underground guys
were genius said it like MF. Doom, Like we probably
don't know the music as much like I know some

(33:05):
of the songs. I'm not a super fan, but everyone
knows who MF. Doom is, you know what I'm saying.
Because the branding was impeccable. So going back to the
wrestling thing, I like wrestling or not, you know who
the fuck Stone Cold Steve Austin is, So like that's
kind of the ship we started creating. Was like, man,
it doesn't we're creating our own universe. Like it doesn't

(33:25):
matter if y'all like it or not. Y'all more than
welcome to enter it. But it's our world and that's
all we're focused on, you know what I'm saying. And
we venture out every so often. But once you build
that coult like no one could, you don't need anything
or anybody or any co sign or so that's the
most important thing for sure. And now we're more intentional

(33:45):
with it. I don't was that the intention at first?
I don't know. I can't say like that was the
plan that you.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Learn yeah, damn, this actually does matter.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Once we created the logo, like okay, let's start branding
this more, and we didn't do it all out the gate,
you know I'm saying, And then a few pieces started
coming together. So now when we do shows, like everybody
wear the logo every so we move like, you know
it kind of like fucking Wu Tang did, like who
the fuck are these guys? You know, it's like it
sets an impression. Like sometimes we don't even realize it,

(34:15):
like ry Fast, we didn't. I didn't know everyone was
wearing it until I was seeing the photos and I'm like, damn,
that looked hard like everybody was wearing like everyone we
were with.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
So yeah, when you guys are creating albums, do you
set an intention of like, all right, we we did
this on the last project, We're gonna up the antibody
doing this, or it's just you just go in and
kind with no expectations and build from there.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, I think no expectations. We just record a gang
and then we just start taking what we think it's
dope that we've done and just start putting it together
like a puzzle and then just go from there to
start fitting things together and seeing the direction it starts
to take, and then build off of that.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
When somethings will say for a different thing, like like oh,
this doesn't fit this, but this will fit this over here,
Like so we have songs that are like a couple
of years old that will be released, but it just
doesn't fit what we've made so far. But we got
you know, different lanes we're gonna experience. But yeah, they
just create themselves. The most intentional album I think has

(35:21):
been the Static one because it's a collaboration album. So
now it's not just us. Now we're collaboring with somebody else.
So is it is it different?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Because I mean you've done did you do a collab
with with dog Writer?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
You guys collaboration networks?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Oh yeah, we did? Uh with Domatter?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
How was How is this experience a little different from
that type of collaboration?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But that one was a free for all, a bunch
of throwaway versus we're kind of like you we got this,
let's put this together, Like we got these opens, I
send it to them. They got on there, like we
have this open, they send it to us. It was
kind of like that. It wasn't like some of those
songs are fire though a lot who.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Were cool, but it was just we're just on there,
just rapping, yeah, just spitting bars stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
That was in the vault. I'm like, all right, this
doesn't fit this, this or this, let's throw it there.
That's kind of that kind of thing. But this static
things like, I think our beat selection process is usually
very straneous, like I'll take a whole day, I'm going
through a thousand beats like just to like find one
or two. So with static is like he'll send us

(36:27):
ten and we're all right, well, I'll be like send more.
He'll send another ten, and then that's.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Like like, hey, hey, you can't.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Y'all need to come to New York.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
He did get it up because he was sending more,
but then he stopped. He's like, all right, that's the beat.
I send y'all sixty beats. Man, pick seventeen of those
and rock so figure it out. It's kind of one
of those things were like, all right, this is what
we got, this is what we're rocking with. But it's
some good stuff. Man, it challenges us too, like all right,
because these beats are good. It's just a lot of times,
like when we're looking through songs, like I'm looking for

(37:02):
something that triggers words out the gate, Like I'll hear
the first three seconds and then I'll say something like
a yeah, load that up. Yeah, So that's usually what
we're searching.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I was going to ask that, like it's it. So
that's the thing that you know for yourself. It's like, oh,
I if it creates that type of energy, then I know.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
We were good to songs like we find each other,
like with the beat and you find each other and
it's like, oh, this idea of that was probably already
there or whatever. But with static it takes a little more,
like I sitting there and then like vibing with it
a little more. It's not like instantaneous.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
But I mean, like you said, it showed you that
you can work under both situations like push yourself to a.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Now I'm starting to really like the project. Man, Now
I'm really really liking it. Boom back as hell, So
I boom back.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
How complete is it?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Well? We have seventeen songs that already for sure going
on it. They just have to be pops Like I
need to do verse here, he needs to do verse there.
The hook needs to be changed for sure. That makes
me a masterream. We have a mixed none of it.
We have to go to New York, have statics, scratch
on some of them, you know, add that element to it.

(38:15):
The branding of like the cover, like what we're going
to do there, you know, like all that stuff matters
to me. I can't just ai a cover.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Do you have an idea of like when you want
to drop it or just kind of like just kind
of letting the pieces for December right before the Usually
I always ask the year can end before you do what,
Like what's that one thing that you guys are trying
to do?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
So I would assume it's get this project.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Out, of this project out? Yeah, and started it. Yeah.
The dunch drops on Friday of today this week.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
You know, I'm saying, of your.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Lost tapes or whatever, got it?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Tell me you did that with the alien aliens.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Alien l a aliens got it's hard to say that aliens.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Aliens.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, I know, I just can't get the words out aliens.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Well, you got the hardest. They can't say aliens. No
one knows how to say land either, but it's all right.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
That was a little easier for me. I got that one.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, we did the lost tapes and ship too, you know,
we got we do distribution deals too, so it's usually
for bolk songs. So I'm gonna give you an album
and a deluxe boom. Get that over with next you
want to run it back? What's up more, Brad? Because
we're up in the stock every every project. So how
how it's like the guys of myself to be able

(39:42):
to kind of like make this ship work, you know
what I mean? Because again I know y'all for years
and even I got to shout.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Out groovy Liz Man who big us a part of
uh that conversation with herting and you sent me some
music years ago. So to see to see what you
guys been able to build from then to now. A
lot of people aren't.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Able to do that.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
You know, a lot of people give up before they
get to that breaking point. So how proud of yourselves
are you for the fact that you thugged it out
despite going through, you know, situations that may not have
worked out and kind of rebranded and doing your own
thing and thugging it out together as brothers.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
But like we said, we can't sit with the ws
for too long. We still got a lot of work
to do.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Man. I'm just excited more than proud.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I'm excited to see what the future holds because we still.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Got a lot to go. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
And it's like again when you're in it, like you're
just like, man, go go, go go, and we're still
not where we want to be, and we invest a
lot into this shit. So sometimes it's like we'll probably
if we took a cheaper route, we probably you know,
be a little more fucking proud of ourselves. But it's
hard to seek we'll get the bread. Like fuck, we're
about to drop fifteen thousand on the video and people

(40:58):
were like why, what can we want to That's why
I have Mario Lopez in it having crazy ideas and
people are like what and then we actually have Mario
so ship like that. Man. But even now we're learning
a budget, Like all right, man, we can't do that
all the time. But I'll say, I guess I'm proud of.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It's so funny looking at it, it's like it's hard
to accept being proud.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
The same time, its.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Like proud, I still got more to go, you know,
we you know, exhibiting yeh.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, shocks our best friend.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
But you know it's just like yesterday he asked how
the kids was doing, but you know, trying to be
proud of these.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
We have another unreleased song. Now there's moments where we
are proud, like after the vinyl thing, like that day,
I was like, oh yeah, that was cool. Next day,
I'm back to the drawing board.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
There's got to be some kind of balance with that
as well, and to kind of keep you level. So,
I mean, I get it as as as a creative myself,
I'm the same way.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
But I always like to give people ship to you
know man and get enjoy.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Your flowers man, because you have to. You're right, I'm
trying to be better at that. Ye be honest.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Your family has background in music as well.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Your father father, he's on L Aliens, He's the last
song on L Aliens.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Talk about that experience of singing that early on and
then like, you know, obviously I'm sure that that motivated
you guys kind of want to do music and how
or did it.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
You think it did maybe subconsciously consciously maybe because it
wasn't it wasn't hip hop or nothing like that. Used
to play the guitar. Still, he was a hobbyist too.
He just used to play in the house. He still
does to this day. But did it I can't say
that it did.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Maybe subconsciously, I think it showed us that, like he's
never gonna stop making music, you know, So I think
that's what we're in, Like we just make music. I'm
gonna probably make music until I die, And I think
we learned that, but maybe it gave me like the
courage to do it. When I was a kid, he
used to like make me sing when he plays the guitar.

(43:02):
So even though it was like a shy kid, I
wasn't shy to like perform.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Playing those seeds.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, and just probably like without knowing, we were always
around music, like waking up to him playing the guitar,
my sister playing R and B and hip hop, my
mom listening to like Spanish love songs. So it's just
like consuming like every genre of music my dad classic
rock and shit. So I think we just grew up
very musically inclined, like and never thought we were gonna

(43:32):
make music though it just kind of happened.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
What you know, we kind of touched on it a
second ago or earlier, but you know, with everything going
on with with fucking Ice and throughout the country many
why was it important? It's pretty much a volleyball question.
But at the same time, like a lot of people,
you don't see them stepping up. They want to keep
it safe because of deals or potential situations and not
wanting to speak about speak up about the injustice that's

(43:56):
been going on.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Why was it important for you.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Guys to say, no, fuck that we're gonna make sure
not only are we talking about it, we're gonna get
that merch and make sure motherfuckers know, like the front
and center and yeah with our folks.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, because we really lived that, Like we really ran
through that.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
So it's not like something we're just doing because of
the moment for for cloud or clicks. It was just
something that we really experienced and lived through it. So
we felt like it was necessary for us to do
it if not, like the fuck can't let ourselves in
the mirror and not speak out for the people that can't.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Speak, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's like we've
been saying the stories since Big Virtual So See and
See Squad like been talking. The messaging has always been
the same. It's just now timing finally caught up to
what we've been saying forever, and then we got better.
So I was able, like some ideas, I was able
to rearticulate and change things up. But I remember I

(44:48):
had this verse back when I kind of sucked, but
those good elements about it. So then you rework like
stories that you've already been telling to match the time.
So it's like you got to be aware of timing too,
and like right now it's like our time really and
it's important because you know, growing up, you didn't really
you didn't really see us in like American culture or
hip hop culture, like we had our culture, like the

(45:11):
Mexican culture, but for us, like we're a Mexican American,
so it's like you didn't. We didn't see ourselves that much.
So it's always been important for me to like put
it on our back, just to like for the next generation,
which we're already seeing it, it's not as like taboo
or they feel that they could be whatever, like whether

(45:31):
it be rappers, whatever, doctors just like you. You you
can not only you can. You are a part of
this thing we call America, United States of America, and
we help make the train move. Like we're big instruments
to this country, and I think we're always being downplayed,
and I think partially it's because maybe we never like

(45:52):
threw it on our back. So we take a lot
from like what the black community is done to really
like put on for the contributions that you guys have
had in this country because you guys always said it
loud and like had cool ways to like convey it.
Like us, I think we were just always in the cut.
But now it's like, man, funk that, Like we're saying
it with our chest out and ship, so it's it's

(46:12):
super important. Just so the world she's too like, yeah, man,
we're American, what's up? And were Mexican? What's good?

Speaker 4 (46:18):
We're in the cut because we didn't want to get
deported exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
There's reasons for that too, you know what I'm saying.
While we're like more humble because you don't want to
make too much noise and ship bring too much attention. Still,
Like you know, when that lady was going crazy over there,
we had a few people there that aren't that, you
know what I'm saying, It shouldn't be there. So we're like, hey,
like you guys should go because you know, were there
when the Karen was going, when the cameras at our vinyl.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Drop four or towards the beginning, maybe it was before
before I missed that like two hours too.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
It's like some Karen throwing water on people, just throwing
water on the person, flipping birds.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Are you kidding me.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
On a kid?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Little kid sign? Well, kid had his vinyl signs. She
threw water on it.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeap, smeared, smeared the fucking thing. Yeah, So we have
to tell a few people like, hey, you gotta go
because I don't know what this lady's gonna do and
I don't want you. So it's just always in the
back of my mind. Like I said, it's really a
part of our story.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
So I was gonna say that aside from that, was
there any backlash that you got from fan fans or
people that that supported you in those times of kind
of speaking out and really being vocal about that.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
We got backlash for the American flag, yeah, just because
oh daren you guys put that killing his flag for
us though it's like if you see the burning of
the dollar, like the subject of the music. It's more
like displaying like America's nightmare at the moment, or or
like showing I don't know, like showing that we are
anarchy American. Yeah, like anarchy to what's going on. There's

(47:52):
like under tones of anarchy to the album. But we
got backlash for the American flag for sure. For the
subject matter. Maybe like Middle America, people start tapping in
like trump, find this guy or whatever. Having as do
your job. You se a lot of those those comments

(48:13):
and ship. But our core audience maybe a few, but no,
not really. They know what's up.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
So, uh, this might it's not gonna be tough, but
because I know you have the Deluxe coming out at
the time that this is going to be dropping or
whatever the case may be. But I always like to
ask people, like, what do you feel right now? Is
your business card track? Which which track you feel like
best represents who Coyote is today?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
That's tough. It depends who the person is. If they
like Archie Farci Ship, I'm like, man, go look at
Devil's contract, man, Yeah, because it's like a piece of art.
If they like like East Coast grimy ship. I'll say
the three locals one with Shaq.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Anything on on this project that you feel like it's
currently is the best.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Slang slang I would say slang.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I like slang, especially if you need a little you know,
like lingo from l A Like that's it's cool. Yeah,
I like slang a lot on there.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
There's a lot of what came into making that, Like
I feel like it's it's your version of like a
current version of like.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
See if you know it.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
You know, I'm thinking of ice cube, Uh, how to
survive in South Central, but you're on twist of like
not how to survive in l A, but the lingo style,
like how to understand folks.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
It was inspired by Big L's EBONYX New York where
he's pretty much breaking down slang. It was a lot
of East Coast slang regular English. So we heard that
song at a barbecue at this Who's house and then
I was always should do one about l A l
A slang And that's how the idea came because a
big lust piece. It was tough. It was tough coming

(50:06):
up with that many slang words to translate.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I did it.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
End zone there doing this shit too like to actually,
you know, provide different contexts on that side as well.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Before we close out of here, man, I want to
talk about the barbershop as well, because I think that that's.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Phenomenal, Like, not only do you have this career with.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
The music, but you also have things outside of the
business or outside of the music. Talk about the you know,
working on that and doing that for years and still
make sure that that's an important piece of you guys's brand.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
The show.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Well, you know, the barbershops a hub for culture. That's
where you get to scoop on the street and everything
that's hot and everything that's going on. So I think
that's what also kept us like, you know, relevant a
little bit and up to date to what's going on.
And it also gave us the freedom to be artists.
So you know, we had to find a trade because

(50:59):
we always knew wanted to be rappers by the time
we were out of high school and shit, so we're like, damn,
what could we do to continue to create music and
have the freedom to do it whenever we want to
do it? Yeah, and we just started chopping up, started
cutting heads and then got our own barber shop.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Yeah, and you need a fun If you want to
be an artist the right way, you need to fund it.
So for us, like cutting hair was always like all right,
this is how we funded it. Mostly you know, a
few other side quests and stuff like that, but the
bulk majority was fucking the barber game. That started paying
more than any side quest, you know.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
To be an entrepreneur, and it changed our life.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
We met the right person at that shop that planted
the seed to create Coyote. So just at a point
where we probably kind of put rap already in the
back burner, like we already hella successful at the barber game,
I was comfortable. I was hello comfortable, And then I
met somebody that was like, you guys are good, but
you guys are never gonna make it because you have

(51:56):
no branding, you don't do it enough, you're not consistent.
And I was like, what fuck this fool.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Wrong?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Yeah, like check this out. Though then I saw something.
I was like, yeah, it's really good. He was like,
you guys are really good. But he was just telling
us stuff that no one ever told us, because at
the time we probably did think we were grinding because
we would do it a couple of times a week,
we're putting out an album a year type of thing,
like we were fucking important. You know, nobody knew who
we were exactly coming soon the weight is over. Nobody

(52:32):
was waiting posting once a month, you know what I'm
saying Back those days when people were too exclusive with
what they posted and stuff, and it took somebody that
I walked into our shop and called us out on
it and planted the right siege to create coyotes like
God put us back on course. Man. Yeah, so super
thankful for that space.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I love how you used that as something that motivated
you to say, naw, you know what, not taking it personal,
but kind of taking it personal and using it as.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Few to need fuel.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Yeah, he wasn't the first one. We've had plenty of
people that.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
So what made it stick out for it when when
they when that.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
That person he was in an industry, he was our end.
So at the time where we thought the industry still matter,
I think it was the taillan of there still being
an industry that mattered it where they'll still gate keeping
and if you're on this platform and this platform, your
career can maybe change. Yeah, it was that time, like
twenty nineteen where it's still mattered. So we're like, oh, well,

(53:29):
this guy's in it, so that's just this our this
is our chance. You know what I'm saying, Do you
do you prefer?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
It's kind of a stupid question, but here I'm going
with it. Do you prefer the way that it was
prior to that, where there could be a button press
and maybe you can figure out the relationship with that person,
or the way that it's kind of is now where
it's like, okay, well it's kind of a free for all.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
You just have to do the work yourself.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah, well we never had the luxury to experience the
button being pressed. By the time we jumped on that ship,
the ship was burning and they pressed the button, but
it was an eject but.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Here get out.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
So but being in it for the little time that
we were, I didn't really like you know, you're waiting
for someone else to say you could eat. You know
what I'm saying. I don't like that. And you got
to take their vision and consideration. You present them stuff
they don't like it. Now you have to give them
something they might like. Now you hate it, but they

(54:29):
like it. So it's like I didn't like that ship
at all. So it was a blessing. Everything that happened
was a super blessing. But none of that trash got dropped,
that we got benched all that, and we were able
to create from the truest space and we were rewarded
for it.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I guess I see it, man, and I love it, Man,
and I just look forward to you guys continue to
progress and again from when we were supposed to do
this interview earlier this year, you know, guys will making
motion and still doing things. But I just love that
everything that has happened since then, and I feel like that's.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Going to continue to be the case.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Man, the artist out in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Sure, you were probably my first interview.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Man's twenty fourteen or twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Probably it was that the first interview we ever did,
their second.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
I wasn't even there.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
It was that's when I was my first solo at ten. Yeah,
my first interview, man.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
But yeah, so to see that to now is just amazing. Man.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Just keep keep inspiring, keep doing it your own way,
and I love this is a full circle moment, man,
give up man in your own way.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Is anything else you want to tell the people out there?
Before we slaught them out of year Man.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
People, fuck you, Yodilandia lost tapes. Man about to drive.
It's probably out now, I'm not sure. Machetes. After that, Yeah,
we statics selected. That's the name of the next album.
Wowas Man that ship, Man yodies, Man tap in, stop
copying our ship, tell him, let him know.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Chuck Dizal Live Direct, keep it in home, wrong man, yodies.
Thank y'all for pulling up Man. Appreciate y'all.