HGR Exclusive! w/ Mozzy

DJ Hed sits down with Sacramento's Fella himself, Mozzy. Mozzy keeps it real about addiction, his infamous legal troubles, and walks us through what his late 24 hours of freedom was like before going to jail. They discuss adjusting to going from independent to the major label system and relationship with Yo Gotti / CMG.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Greetings and salutations. My name is DJ Head. Here to
talk to my brother real quick. Should be a very
honest conversation. My brother Mazi Fresh home. Come on, welcome home, Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Said, let me go ahead. And you know what I'm saying.
I see you.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
When I first seen you walk in, you had this
glow about you. Okay right, And it wasn't the it
wasn't the lotion. It was it was like spirit. You
know what I'm saying. So before we get into all
of the emotions and everything, how do you feel.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm lit Man, Life Platinum.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Uh you know, uh, due to my current circumstances, I
ain't able to wiggle like I want to and everything
being on their paperwork. But I can't complain none of
these restraints. Man, you know what I'm saying. Me here
present you feel me.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I ain't got no financial discrepancies or nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
So yeah, man, life lit Man, I'm enjoying myself.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm at peace, I'm whole. I'm fulfilled.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I think that, and obviously we hear because you know
you and you went and knocked out of album.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean, I know you have been.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Working on it before everything had went down. But I
think it's important that the people hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
We've been waiting to hear from you as fans and
as homies. But and I know you anxious to get
your voice and your messaging.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Out there for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
And also you know me throughout this conress, you know
I'm a holding no punches come on. So that's what
we're here to do. We here to have an honest conversation.
But first and foremost welcome. And then secondly, like when
it comes to I guess your home life, right, you
went through a lot of stuff, like in the last
two years three years, I mean it's been a lifetime

(01:51):
for you, but in the last two three years specifically
home life. Though for Mazie, what does that look like
when you come home? Because I know you got the
little ones and it's just like that's a complicated situation.
So I know you said you life is platinum, you
feel great, But how do you feel.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
When you go home?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Cause you still once the lights go off, the microphones
come off, you go home and you with the I
know you active pop active pops, Like, how does that
how is what is that like for.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
You now and you look at it different.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
You know, one thing first and foremost triples a little
to my significant other, she hold it down just like
you feel me, well rounded and she keep athing grounded.
Growing up, growing up with my granny, stability, stability was
like the biggest thing for her was just being stable.

(02:44):
You know what I'm seeing me. That's why she participated
in the real estate type of time you feel me,
because like she didn't want she wanted to own her
own property. She wanted to just have stability for her children.
She didn't want nobody, no wheening lord telling her she
got a wiggle or et cetera. And so uh so,

(03:04):
stability for me is is big. And I got that
in my household. I got stability, you know, like my
kids as well taken care of. I spend about six
to eight hours out the day doing my you know,
my my my thing as far as studio wise or
running running my errands. But I make sure I'm making

(03:25):
home ten o'clock.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Max. You know, the kids they doing good in school,
They lick.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
So like I was saying, I can't, I can't complain
the home life is you know, that's your piece and
serenity that's where you you be able to you know
what I'm seeing me just kind of like you just
ah you feel me.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Is it more of a decompression, like is it more like, Okay,
I don't have the pressure of the world on me?
Or is it more pressure because those are the little
ones that you downloading lessons and life into.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Which one is Nah?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I think uh, I think it's it's it's I think
it's it's kind of like both. It's kind of like
both cause like you said, you know, it's when I
come in there, I get to relax and and and
you know it. But at the same time, it's the
pressure of making sure everything is straight, making sure everything

(04:21):
is legitimate, making sure that you know what I'm doing
this on behalf of them for the benefit of them,
and so you know, uh, I'm kind of like trying
to set it up to where even if I'm not here,
they legitimate, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
if if if it just happened to get ugly out
of nowhere man and lightning strikes and it's spicy on

(04:43):
my end, I still want to make sure they future
is legitimate.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I still want to make sure they have that.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
That you know, they live a prosperous lifestyle and so
that's the pressure of it.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
But as far as coming home.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, that's the way of my world is when I
walk in that door, the way to the way to
the rolls off my shoulders. Man, you know that's the
girly faces they embraced me.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
That's that's unconditional love.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
That's what if you was to ask me, where do
unconditional love exist in this world?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
For me, it's that household.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
That household for sure, the little ones.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, I want to I want to get into you
brought up granny And I know that's like a tough subject,
you know what I'm saying, because you know you lost granny.
But I think that it's important for people that's looking
at you as as somebody look up to, like how
does Manzi deal with these.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Things and stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
And so I see you got the you got the
you always wear, yeah, and I always So I look
at I'm gonna just tell you, I look at like
Nipsey's relationship with his mom, with his with his grandma, right,
and then I look at your relationship with your granny,
and I look at my relationship with my grand My
Grandma passed lot two years ago too, so so I

(05:52):
get it going to granny house and like, you know whatever,
but your relationship was a little different, and I noticed
it and the song you was like, you know, the same,
the same, the same sofa that Granny.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know, Granny died on the same couch I used
to sleep on.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
So from a I guess from a from a perspective,
from life, from looking put the music aside, mm wrapping
aside as a man, does that mess with your mind?
Like when you look at it, like from a from
a psychological standpoint, because I feel like we deal with
our traumas different.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Some people go to the substances.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Some people go to the streets, some people go to anger,
Like how do you deal with something like that?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Initially in the beginning, you know, I dove in that
styfoam cup.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I dove in it head first, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
And that was because of the of the loss of
grand Nah.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
That was I was already tempering with it, but the
loss of Granny just intensified it. It just, you know
what I'm saying, Instead of pulling a folk, We're gonna
pour eight. You know what I'm saying gotcha and so
uh you know, uh, that's how I was dealing with it.
I was sedating myself, I was sleep walking, and I
think it it helped, It helped a lot. But these

(07:03):
songs that you hear, that's really my therapeutic session, cause
it give me a chance to to let it out,
you know what I'm seeing me and any not only that
I write it, recite it, and then I get the
tweak on it. So when I'm on a freeway by myself, man,
and the song come on, I mean I could shed tears.
This is you know, this is like my safe haven

(07:23):
and that load when I'm to the necklace, so I'm
able to shed tears man, and not you know, not
not looking for sympathy or nothing. I'm just you know, I'm, I'm, I'm.
It's how I'm dealing with my pain. It's how i'm
you know, It's how I'm coping with my loss. So
I think that's where most of my therapy come. That's
where I was able to get over you know, get

(07:45):
over that hump.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Man.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
It's just really just it's you know, this music is
like having a conversation with oneself.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right you feel me and so, uh.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
That's a that really helped me a lot, you know,
just celebrating her life. Celebrating her life, whether it's her
birthday and we throw against the party, or I be tweaking.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
In my journal and uh, you're my journal.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, well it's really a rap book, but it's you know,
I I do more than just rapping in there. I
my my to do list, my goals. Uh huh feeling today,
Uh what irritated my soul? Et cetera, et cetera. But yeah,
and then the other day, I I was caught up
in my feelings and I said, let me call granty

(08:28):
lem'a just call her.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I called her. I was suspecting to gig.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know, this number has been disconnected or no longer
in service, but that wasn't the case. She was on
the answer machine and uh, my Auntie, you know that's her,
that's her mom. And so, uh my auntie, she been
paying the bill like regularly while she's still here. And so, uh,
I left a message I left for m How you doing, Moms.

(08:53):
I'm just breathing on you, lay you dearly, you know.
And I went on, I went on whatever I was,
I was hollering at her about But these is all
these is a form of therapy for me. Everything that
I do in the name of her is a form
of therapy to me. When I you know this necklace,
when I I'm seeing me, I wake up in the
morning and I put that two paste on it, man,

(09:14):
and get the scrubbing down.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And you know what I'm saying, I get the look
at it.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
It's a glance when I walk in my house, the
little photographs and the pains I got over.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's all.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
This is a therapeutic session, man. And uh, I'm still ain't.
I'm still not over that loss. But I got over
that heel. I got over there.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's good that you brought the and and also I
don't want to skip over like a loss is a loss, right,
because I was even David was showing me the album cover, right,
and it's like you lost these homies to the streets
or to prison or incarcerate, whatever the case may be. Right,
is the loss of a loved one just the loss
of a loved one, or is a different one.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
It's somebody in your household, man.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's somebody who raised me.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
This is this is day one, you know, this is
It's like It's different, different, this granny, this is your
heart and soul.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
This is the one. It's your number one fan.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It's the one who instilled all the principles you you
know what I'm saying me, this is the one who
taught you about morals and principles. Respect. It's the one
I respect. You know when we was kids, I wouldn't
walk in her house without.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Pulling on my pants first.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
It's the one who wake you up five o'clock in
the morning when it's still dark out man, and make
you mod a line.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
This the one come to your high school and slap
the shit out of you for being you know what,
made for missing class?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
This the one who whooped you in the bathroom in preschool.
This is the one, Yeah, this pinch you in church.
It's the one who bail you out, cuts you out,
and then take you you me know, a restaurant. You
feel me all in the same in that order. So naw,
this is my dog for real. This is the one
I'm I I feel It's the only person on earth

(10:53):
that I feel I could be vulnerable towards. You know
what I'm saying. Why I could really tell her my truth.
Everybody else I gotta you know, I gotta mask my masculinity.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Man, I can't. I can't.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Just I can't beat Timothy Patterson with everybody else but Granny.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
This, this is who I'm seeing me.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So what did Granny call you?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
She called me a tim tim Tim Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
So I also wanted to talk about more home.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Stuff too, because uh you we all you talk about
in the raps, you talked about it to me in interviews.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Whatever. We all know Granny, what about like because you
was raised by Granny? Right primarily? What about like moms? Pops?
I never asked you about that before?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And I can't believe when I was going back through
our conversations, like, I've never asked you about that.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Broo. Oh No, that's my squad. That's my squad to
this day. That's my squad.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Moms.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
She called me text me every day, sweetest person in
the world, never whooped me. H just sweet, sweet, like
just caring. Get a gangster though, but you feel me?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
So you know, anything I can do for her, I
do for her anything she can't do for me. It's
she's an individual that I can always call upon. And
you know she there present, and so uh, you know,
she had her beautiful struggles, but she overcame her beautiful struggle.
So I most definitely applied that same with Pops. He
was in and out of penitentiary. He finally got it

(12:27):
right and uh, you know he vowed or never go back.
And the path that he you know, maneuvering on right now,
it looked like him seeing me, he kind of like
honored what he said he gonna do, and so, uh
he just pulled down. You know, they they visited me,
I can almost say frequently and I'm seeing me or

(12:47):
in between frequently and occasionally, but they blow.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Down on me.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
So mom, she come pull up, clean the mansion up,
start playing the man I'm talking when I say clean
the men deep clean many a thing. Man, you feel
I feel obligated to give her a couple of bands
on after that, hear me and then Pops, he just
blew down on me.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And you know, uh, you know, got.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Acquainted with his grandchildren. I got the you know, grilly
faced gang. So he came to function with them. We
uh pulled up the Joey sat down, I'm seeing me
ordered a couple of passion passion fruit margaritas or something
like that. And you know we kind of had a
little semi against the party and he doing this thing

(13:32):
work and staying out the way you feel me, just
just living life and enjoying life.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
How do they feel about Mazi the artists.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
They love it. They love me, they love it.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I'd be having to tell moms like Tim, damn, you
feel me. Everybody in that jurisdiction don't function with me.
So while you, you know, per heavy promoting it, that's my son.
You know what I'm seeing me and so you know.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
She then bumped into a couple of altercations where it
was fake white spicy. So she get it now, gotcha,
she get it now? Uh, Pops, he can't deny it.
He'd looked at almost my identical twin. You know what
I'm saying, we sing, I think I'm taller than him.
You know what I'm saying. Lord knows I'm only fou
five foot suffolk. Yeah, but uh, you know, he can't

(14:17):
deny it if you want to. Everybody in the hood lovey.
They be calling me. I just seen Pops. Man even
pulled up to the Big park.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Wi wo woa, woa.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
They like man they just like you. But uh now
that's my dog, so you know, he he eat juice.
He was also in a he Eat Tamper with the
music you know, R and B singer and so uh
he uh so that's the dream that I'm living was
you know, that's kind of like his dream too. So
to see me actually, you know, I'm seeing me progress

(14:48):
in this field.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
They love me for it.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I feel me.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You talked about I wanna go back cause you talked
about how you dealt with the loss of Granny. You
say you dove into the double Cup. Now I remember
you did kick the Cup challenge, yeah, years ago, and
we had you up talking about we was doing going
crazy and the radio with that and everything. But then
I seen and I watched the count time video which

(15:14):
you just dropped, and the cup is back?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
So is that back? Or is like what is that?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
I mean, you gotta understand, addiction is real. Addiction is addiction.
So you know, somebody could stop smoking weed temporarily and
we applaud them, and you feel me, we congratulate them,
and then they doubled back on it. And like I said,
it's just a form of therapy. The cup is a
form of therapy to me. But I think in that
particular video, I was on the alcohol I've been I've

(15:41):
been messing with that Donovan Julio ye. So but I'm
just saying, though, addiction is real, and you know, I
didn't have my struggles with it where I put it down,
picked it up, put it down, picked it up, put
it down, picked it up. And anybody who who who's
had an addiction to something, you know that magnitude, completely understand.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I feel that, But I don't promote it in my song.
What do he say?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
At least I don't promote it on my g at
least I don't promote it on the GRAM.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's my addiction though, That's.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's what he does say. So when you talk, because
I remember when he was having it, I don't remember
the number you said you had spent in one year,
but it was like like a quarter a million dollars
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You said you spent on the addiction.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Right, But then nobody ever talks about Nobody ever talks
about like what you go through emotionally when you when
you're trying to when you're fighting a demons and stuff
like that. And I think DMX is one of them
artists who did a great job at illustrating what that
looks like to fight a demon like addiction.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
He would always talk about, you know, if I'm keeping
it real.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I never knew. I was so young.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I didn't know what he was talking about. I just
knew he was fighting something. He would be praying and
all that kind of stuff. And then later on we
all kind of found out, Okay, this is what's going
on stuff like that, but we never understand what the
person is going through, Right, So can you speak to
some of that, like cause it might be somebody else
going through the same thing as far as how to
deal with that psychologically, mentally, emotionally.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
For me personally, it's my children. Just looking at my
children to be like, I gotta be here. I gotta
be here for the long call longevity, man, I gotta
be here. And so that's where I kind of was
like that was the inspiration for me to put it down.
But like I said, addiction is real, and you know, death,

(17:34):
I probably lose one of my pattners. And you know
what I'm saying, Like, like I said, we can't I
can't be vulnerable with everybody. Yeah, you know, Granny Gonge.
So you know, I get vulnerable with that cup man
like that. That's That's what I'm saying me. It's like
you have a real relationship with whatever drug that. You
know what I'm saying me, You fighting, Uh, we just

(17:54):
gonna call 'em your denons whatever, deanon you fighting? You know,
it ain't just some people just look look at it
like it's a drug or whatever it is. But the
person who dealing with that got a relationship with that.
It's a real relationship, you feel me.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
And so.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I just feel like, you gotta want it for self.
Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody gonna You gotta want it.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
You gotta want change. I was driving on the freeway.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I was going to go handle one of my court
cases and and.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
What was that Vegas?

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And I was driving and I'm on my way right,
and so I'm coming from La driving to Vegas and
I'm sipping, I'm sipping, I'm smoking right, my heart hurting,
and I'm like, damn, it's killing me.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You feel me?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
And so I kind of like, like I told you,
I had my conversations with Grinny whenever I'm in that
vehicle to the necklace, driving along a long period of time,
you feel me. So on I start having a a
conversation with Grinny.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
And I was like, I need help, mm, I need help.
I need help. I want help.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
But it's like, I'm not finna enroll myself into no
what are they.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Facility for sitting?

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Nah, I ain't going to no facility.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
You not finish singe on Instagram or publicly the MINSI
is in some type of facility due to Nah, we ain't.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Doing that right.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I just feel like I'm strong enough to beat it
without a facil Without a facility, So I'm aksing Granty
for help. Now when I get to the to Vegas
to go, you know, I I think it's a firearm case.
You know, my lawyer come and tell me good news,
time served on that case. You know what I'm seeing
me They gonna get you a little probation or whatever,
but bad news.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
The US Marshals is here. US Marshalls here.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
They what I'm saying, picked up the case and in
LA and they finish. They fine all you off And
I'm like, what anyways they harled me off?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Do they? Dougie? I end up in somebody facility?

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I think it perumpt or something, and the event actually
they gave me bill after three four days. And when
I get out on bill, now they piss testing me.
So I'm seeing all that. To say, I on my
way to handle my business. I aksed Granny for help.
The US Marshals was my help if they if I
would have had this regular state case, I would have

(20:18):
bailed out on that state case. And they don't piss
test you, you feel me. The state just they just
they waiting for you to get your you know what
I mean, They waiting until they they give you whatever
time you gonna do, and then they they they send
you to prison. But the Feds they like hold on
while you out on trial. I think it's called uh,
I forget what it's called pre trial. While you out

(20:40):
on pre trail, you gonna piss test, you gonna do this,
you gonna do that. So then it became for me
like I'm out on pre trial. I'm not trying to
go in earlier than expect it. I got responsibilities. I
got these children to take care of. So I'm a mind,
I'm a I'm a I'm a bi by they rules

(21:00):
and regulations. So I kicked the sh I kicked the cup, right,
I kicked the cup again. That's on the back end
before I kicked the cup. I mean, that's on the
back end of me kicking the cup once before. But anyways,
I'm seeing all that to say, the US marshals and
they program and they stiff stipulations the Feds they kind
of made.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
They forced me to kick the cup.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Now, how I looked at it is Granny answering my prayers.
You feel me, That's exactly what that was on on aight.
So it's at it. It's like I was granted what
I aksed for. And so instead of looking at it
in a way where it'd be like, damn, they got
me doing all this, it's like, nah, that's what you
aks for, you know what I'm saying me, and so

(21:42):
that's what you got, and I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
That's fire. I think.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think if people miss those things, I my spiritual
advisorment teaching me to like listen to the signs and
pay attention to what's going on, because if you ask
for something, you gonna get it.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
For sure. You look for something, you gonna find it.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Fat Well, it was deafite facts.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
So I want to get into so you did when
you dropped Survivor's Guilt. H I think you went to
jail a week after that was or like it was
a little bit after or no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
No, Survivor's Guilt. Yeah, now you're right. It was a
week after. It was a week after.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, So before you, before you had went to turn
your seven, did you already know like, Okay, I'm gonna
do this and I'm gonna drop the project so that
way I can serve them, I give them what they
need and then I'm gonna go sit down.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Or did you Did it just happen to work out
that way?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (22:35):
They wanted to drop the project. The label didn't know
I was going to sit down, got you. I was
trying to keep that on the under you knew. I
knew I was going to sit down.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, So.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
You know, me working with my my squad, Me and
my squad, we just came we came to the conclusion
that we need to drop it. It's more beneficial if
he drop it. I'm here to promote it and I'm
seeing me so and I wanted to see the reaction.
I'm not gonna be able to see the reaction and
how it's taken off for you know, I'm not this
is my baby, you know what I'm seeing me. I

(23:11):
cultivated this, and so I wanted to be able to
I wanted to make it the graduation day, you feel me?
And so, uh we we all agreed that we should
drop it before I turned myself in, and uh that's
what we did. And then we kind of had like,
I'm seeing me a rollout a while I was in
while I was in there, how we was gonna am
seeing me map it out and and and press play

(23:33):
on certain things and am seeing me So uh yeah,
that was me and my team. We came up with
the idea of dropping it before I went in there,
just so I could see, you know what I'm saying,
the reaction and be able to actually tweak on it
and listen to it and enjoy it with the people.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
What's interesting is I remember when when it all was
going down, because I don't know, I don't remember if
you came, I don't know if we talked.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right before that or we talked a little bit before that,
But remember when the album dropped.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
And like nobody knew, like you said, like you kept
it intentionally, you kept it low like, Okay, I know
this is happening, but I just want it. Was that
because you don't want people talking you was already prepping yourself.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
You didn't want people.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Asking you about it in the interview or wherever you're
going as part of the promotion for the album. Or
is it just because you didn't look at it like
a big deal.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
You know, I've been in and out of jail for
a lifetime, so I don't parade that. I don't parade that.
I felt like that was a failure. I feel I'm
seeing me and uh, I felt like that was a setback.
And I just didn't want to promote. I didn't want
to promote my ls. I didn't want to promote my setbacks.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
You feel me?

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Uh, I didn't want I didn't want to let I
didn't want people to know that during this process I
was at I was at my weekest hours. I was
at my weekest hours, like you know, I was actually
going through something, man, and I was just trying to
press it.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
You know, I got kids. I got kids.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I got a custody for a custody of one of
my children, and uh, they depend on me. I got
a squad that depend on me, not only my household.
I got family relatives that depend on me. I got
relatives that look up to me, and you know, I
got people in the trenches that look up to me.
And I just didn't wanna per promote, you know, negativity.

(25:25):
I'm not really one that that you know, my my music,
I'm just telling you my lifestyle, et cetera, et cetera.
But as far as my personal things that I'm going
through right now, like if it if it's, if it
has a negative.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Effect, I don't wanna promote that. I ain't. I run
from it. So that's what I was doing.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I was running from, you know, telling the people that
I gotta turn myself in. I wasn't looking for no
type of sympathy that I have to turn myself in,
and I wasn't tryna capitalize off of turning myself in.
So yeah, it was it was a mixture of of
of all that.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Man.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm glad you said that, cause that was the perception
I believe from a lot of people. It's like, oh,
he's he put the album out because he finna go
sit down.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Once we knew on once you.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Turned yourself and was like, oh that's why he put
the album out where it's actually not the case. It's
more just like this was coming, and this.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Was coming, this was on the way, you know what
I'm saying. But I had to go, you know, I
had to go follow through with my commitment, and so
you know what I mean, I knocked it out. But
like the dude on Black Panther, he passed away without
telling us he had cancer. That's true, child with bobn
triple saluting. I love him for that. My grandmother, she
she passed away. She didn't tell nobody accept her immediates

(26:40):
of what type of you know, internal affair, internal affairs
she was dealing with.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
And then after that she didn't have a funeral.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
And I asked her why she don't want to have
a funeral, and she said, because I don't want the
people to see you at your weakest hours.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
And that touched me. I just love her for that,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
And so that's you know, that's that's that's kind of
how like I I I live my life. You know,
if I'm going through something, you ain't gonna see me
get on Instagram man and complain. I'm you know, I'm
with compliments over complaints. And so anytime I'm going through something,
I'm not in the complaining and you'll never see me
cussing out a label or you know what I mean,

(27:20):
interrupted by anything a label has done or what they're
not doing. I it's accountability. I feel like I'm seeing me.
If something's going wrong, it's me. I don't care highest
painted would happen. If I get ribbed, that was me.
I shouldn't have been there. I should have been on point.
If my label is I'm seeing me, you know, draining

(27:43):
me out, that's me. I should have been able to
orchestrate my you know what I'm saying. So I learned
from my mistake. So everything is accountability with me.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I love that bro.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
A lot of people avoid personal accountability for sure. Accountability
is like the word for me the mom. I'm gonna
read you something and I just want you to tell
me how you feel.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
For I read it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Mizzi turned himself in on Thursday, July twenty eighth.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It stems from a traffic stop to Win down in
Culver City, California, when he's pulled over for traffic violation,
authoriti smell marijuana and search the vehicle. Upon conducting the search,
they discovered a gun and rounds and ammunition and a
small amount of marijuana.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
He was then arrested later he was then released.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Later on Bell, Mazzie said, life comes at you fast.
Sometimes shit gets real and you gotta take that deal.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yes, sometimes you can't bargain. You gotta take that deal.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I remember I was talking to Dabo about that, and
he was saying that y'all had talked about that that
specific that specific line, right, And I think that people
to what you just said about taking ls the accountability thing,
people don't take that right. So I want your thoughts
on well, first, when you s when you said that,

(29:01):
what was going through your mind? Was it the accountability
thing or was it more or less? Let me just
knock this out.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Nah uh both, you know, taking accountability. Let me go
walk this time down. I probably needed this. I look
at the benefits of the situation. I ain't really focused
on the l you know what I'm saying. I'm losing
you know, countless amount of money. I'm losing time with
my children. I'm not there, I'm not present. I feel

(29:28):
like a failure in that aspect.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Uh, I can continue, I can carry on. You feel
me with the l's that I felt like I was
taken from that, but less I like the benefits. You
know what I'm saying. I'm drug free. I'm able to
get clarity, get my mind right. You know what I'm
seeing me. I'm able to tweak on these books. Man,
and you knowing what I want to transition into, you
feel me? So uh, you know I wanna tweak. I

(29:53):
it's a it's a it's another aspect of my life
that I'm ready to transition into outside of music. And
so uh I may able to you know, apply a
lot of sweat equity in that field. You feel me,
and so you know, Uh, I was just you know,
I'm looking at the benefits. But going back to that statement,
that's that's a shout out.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Messy Mark Free, Messy Moore.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Uh one of my favorite rappers growing up, and he
said that, he says, you know, sometimes you get that real.
Sometimes you can't bargain. You gotta take that deal. And
that's a quote that Uh, I've been living with my
whole life. Anytime it gets spicy, anytime it gets spunky,
I think every time I went to jail out and
recited that quote, right, and so, uh, you know that's

(30:35):
that's that's what type of time I was on. Man, like,
you know, let's eat the ill you feel me. However,
you know I I follow through what my commitments on
run from him. If I'm committed to do this, let's
knock it out whatever it.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Is, shot to Miss Mazie also said, chin up, chest out,
love you right.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, this case.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Made me realize that everything I have accomplishing built can
be taken away because of a single mistake or lacks
in judgment. I feel like those are the things people
don't talk about. I didn't see nobody talking about what
you said right there, right because it could be that fast,
that fast, you could be coming out of a club,
or you could be at a light or you know,

(31:15):
we see it, we see it over and over again.
But then you also spoke to like you you take
accountability for your actions. You also hold your l. You
don't promote the L nor do you celebrate it. You
own it. But then you also are unapologetic at how
you have to move because it's like I gotta go home,

(31:37):
and I remember you talking about being a rapper is
extremely dangerous and nobody talks about that.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
You want to speak on that.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
It is dangerous.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
I think being anything, I think just living life as
an African.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
American is dangerous.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Right, but you put the emphasis on it when you're young,
red h Black.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
It's like it's emphasis.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
You feel me and not only that majority of the
rappers we coming out the treasures, so we got a
treacherous mentality. We still it's something that still lingers within us.
You feel me in that, you know, keep one up top.
Uh state treacherous, stay dangerous. Yeah, uh, you know we
live by that usulama first.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So you know, you know it's kind of like what
they call that.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
What's that book? It's it's like when it's a book.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Called What's it about?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's about uh, whatever energy you put out, whatever energy
you put out, it brings back law of attraction, law
of attraction, yup, law of attraction man. And you know
we talk about we talk about participating in in in
in in in thug life activities and our music, and
so we naturally attract it the way we operate, we

(33:01):
naturally attract it.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
You feel me?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
So, uh, you know I think.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
That that alongs you know, it's it's dangerous in a sense.
You feel me just the way we operate. We operate
in a dangerous manner. And we know we we kind
of like, I mean you, we got all these securities.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
You got gang members with you.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
They they know that Usulama first rap shit secondary, so
they strapped they on, They ain on that type of time.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
They on demonic time.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
You know, we bulletproofing the cars because we know we
come with this and so uh we don't watch countless
entertainer slash rappers. You know what I'm seeing me uh
check out on us early, you know, just for being
a public figure.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
You feel me in Sometimes it's us.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Sometimes we don't understand how big we is because it's us.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
We live in this body.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
So we we we we we we navigating like we
just regular human beings.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
But that ain't the case.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Man, somebody you gonna get You're gonna get brownie points
for for noting somebody down. It's a public figure. You know,
you your your name, you damn there become a public
figure for for knocking something down. You feel me, and
uh so, uh most definitely it's a it's a it's
a treacherous it's a treacherous occupation. But uh, the benefits, man,

(34:17):
the benefits is you know, we was already living it.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
It wa We was living like that in the hood.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
We was already you know what I'm saying, when we
was broke, it was already spicy for what's coming out
the club or pulling over to this gas station.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
It was.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
It's kind of like, in a sense, the same thing,
except now it's on a bigger scale, Cause it gets spicy.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
For you in La It gets spunky for you in.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Atlanta, you know, I mean it, It get treacherous for you
in New York cause you're a public figure, so you know,
and they expect you to stand on what.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
You rap about too, and they gonna try you for sure,
the fella said. My lawyers also told me there's a
recent study that proves the number one cause of death
among black rappers is murdered, specifically by gunfire. And then
you said that you're afraid that your kids will end
up fatherless, and that's your primary reason for carrying a
gun without a permit. It's a fear that all black

(35:08):
rappers carry with them all the time. I know that
does not legally justify in my actions, but I took
some comfort in the fact that I knew for certainty
that I was not used, I was not possessing a
gun for illegal purposes.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Right, It's a defense most definitely.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I'm rich. I ain't running around here looking for nobody
with this fire. N I'm up.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
You know what I'm saying me, that's the last thing
on my mind. But at the same time, one gotta
protect himself, you feel me. I got on what it's
about an eighty ball, you know what I'm saying, to
change something light on a Monday night. They over a dollar,
you know what I'm saying. Risk, We're going yayyay. And
you know my name is self whole weight. So like

(35:53):
we were just discussing. Man, you know, they gonna expect
me to stand on what I'm hodling. And if you not,
if you ain't standing on what you high, then you
you know, you an easy lick. You feel me, they
gonna wipe you down. So, uh, you know, I'm just
one up top, one up top, man, I'm just trying
to protect myself. I wanna live. I wanna live. I
wanna see what it looked like. And I'm saying that
jumping in fifties and sixties. You know, I wanna be

(36:16):
able to experience what having grandchildren feel like.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
And I'm just trying to protect myself.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Man, that's not that's not a crazy request.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Nah, it ain't.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Now, also understand that you know I'm I'm a feeling,
so I can't possess firearms. But it's like risk reward
ratio risky as I could lose my life if I
ain't got it. You feel me and so, and the
other risk is I can go to jail if I
get caught with it.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
But the reward is I get to live. You feel me,
So it's war.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Do you think that?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Do you think that the j the the legal system
is not empathetic to that.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
I think it's not empathetic to that. I don't think
they care. I mean, we African Americans off off top,
so I don't think they empathetic to us, period. But
I understand. I understand how the game is played. And
I knew I was at I knew I was I
was risking my freedom when I was wiggling around there
with that year. Yeah, so once more accountability. I feel

(37:16):
you feel me, so I ain't.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Man when you so inst so as so you go
you turn yourself in did how did you mentally prepare
for that? And then also what are things that you
did to keep yourself saying a lot of people lose
they mind in there, bro like you till you tapped
into the books.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
How I'm mentally prepared.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
I just spend more time with my family, dove into
you know, my children. It kind of put everything on pause.
You know how we live in this life, you running
that one hundred miles power and I'm talking about all
aspect musically, you know, with the fam just overlooking things,
You forget about things, You kind of take everything for granted.

(37:56):
And so I felt like I was taking you know,
the presence of my children for granted. And uh, when
I realized that I wasn't gonna be able to hold them,
hug them, prepare 'em for school, take 'em to school,
pick 'em up from school, you know, pink with 'em,
it kind of like it kind of like took a
toll on me, you know, momentarily. So I was just

(38:18):
rocking with them. We going, you know, we beating up
the restaurants, we beating up the malls. You know what
I'm seeing me We it's it's it's it was just,
you know, it was against the party with them.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
That's how I I.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
I feel like I prepare and of course cooking up,
just getting as much as music, you know what, I'm seeing
me producing as much music as I could now while
I was in there.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Well before we go to before we go to inside,
what was the last twenty four hours, like.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Last twenty four hours, oh.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Leading up to that? What was that day? What was
that twenty four hours like for you?

Speaker 4 (38:50):
I think I was a I did a show. I
think I did a show. I think I did a
show cause I came in late, and you know, my
girl was tweaking on me cause I ain't get to
sleep with her that night. So I i I did
this show, came in late, and now so I don't remember.

(39:13):
The last twenty four hours was a blur cause I
was drunk, I was stuck, and I was living. It
was just I was just enjoying life. But the turning
and date, it was, uh, it was bittersweet.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Man.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
It was like, I ain't even wanna talk to the kids.
You know, I ain't even tell 'em where I was going.
I just kept telling 'em that i'm'a be gone for
a minute. Our whole ride there was silent. It was
just silent, no quiet, just quiet. I wasn't even she
wasn't playing the music. I wasn't requesting no music. You know,

(39:47):
I'm just kind of like numn, like, damn, I really
gotta go knock this out. You know they say that
that it's only two days that matter when you go
to jail. It was the day you go in and
the day you get out. And I think the day
just going. Man, I was really beat up. I was smoking,
so what I'm seeing me, I was just chiefing and

(40:08):
and and and uh, you know, we'll pull over. I'd
jump out and cheek get back in the car. It
was just pure silence. Even when we got to the
g uh to the gate. You know, I hugged the kids.
They act like I was just getting dropped off to
the studio, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
And it wasn't really.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I wasn't trying to put 'em in a in a
mainy emotional state. I was trying to you know what
I'm saying, just you know, I don't like doing my
kids like that.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I don't try to cause they they sensitive, They sensitive
and uh they really function with me.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
So, uh yeah, that was it. It was just it
was a dry it was dry. It was dry, It
was silent.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Did you take anything with you as far as like,
you know, maybe a you know, a picture of the
kids granting anything.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I don't know. I don't know how it works. I
don't know if they allow you to do that.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
But nah, I kind of like strip myself for everything.
I had a bracelet on note. I had like a
little bracelet that my daughter made me, and I try
to sneak in with it, but they they confiscated that too.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I wrote some numbers down. They let me write the
numbers down.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I didn't want them going through my phone, so I
kept my phone in the car, wrote some numbers down,
and they let me keep them numbers. So you know,
I was just writing, you know, my squad numbers everybody
who I felt like, you know what I'm saying, that
was significant.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Who was gonna pick up that at that phone? That
phone for me?

Speaker 4 (41:24):
And I'm seeing me that was it? I ain't that
was it.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I feel that now when you get in there, I mean,
obviously that's not a new situation to you. So you
know the program, you know how it worked, so that's
not even need to be talked about. But as far
as what did how did what did Mazie do to
pass the time?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Like you end up staying?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I think it was ten months right all in, But
what did you do to like past the time?

Speaker 4 (41:51):
The first thirty days they had me in a in
a shoe, so it was like twenty four hour lockdown
due to COVID.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Oh oh, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
So uh and then uh, they was supposed to be
and house me, but I guess somebody had some altercations
with me wherever I was going. They found out that
I was getting housed there, so they told the police
that you know what I'm seeing me? Uh, you know,
they ain't want me on that yard with 'em, and
the police kind of light way compromise with him. So

(42:22):
they kept me. They kept me in the shoe, and
they was finna transfer me somewhere else, and then I
guess he got rolled up and they finally let me go.
You know what I'm saying to they, Look, they finally
let me program. So when I first get in there,
you know it's against the party, nigga.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
We been waiting for you, bruh. We heard you was
coming making my bed for me, Like hold on you
may They like, nah, hold on.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
We got you. Uh you know, uh I told him
I was starving. I was in a shoe. I lost
to probably like twenty thirty.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Punds for real.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah, cause I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't adjust to
they food.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
What are they? Was they serving in there?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
It was decent, but you know, you gotta understand, I'm
at Morton's every night. You know what I'm saying, I'm
at Flemings. You know what I'm saying, Joey's ming. It's
against the probably boiling crabb.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Right of that.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Yeah, ain't none of that, so you know, uh it,
I had to adjust. But they they had decent food,
you know what I'm seeing me?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
But uh was it season? Nah?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
They they they were seasoned. It was a season they did,
they dugy.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
But I just couldn't in in the first two three weeks,
I think the first the first twenty days, I was off.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Of oranges, off of oranges.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
And anything else I could eat, Like, you know, they
might have something on a ball that I mean on
a dish there that that was legitimate, and I bang
that out. But uh, you know, my selly was even
telling me like, bruh, you you gotta eat.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Bruh, you in here shriveling up.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Heah, come on, get your life together. So I finally
got it together. But when I got over there to
the to where I was supposed to where I belonged,
they uh, you know, they filled me up.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I ta. They told me, you just missed the store.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
You just store today, you missed it next week they
skipping store. So you probably ain't gonna be able to
go to the store for about fourteen days from now.
And so uh, I'm like, man, I just need a
couple you know, I'm saying, a couple of soups or something.
They got me righteous filled me up skittles, just little
zuzus and wam whams and you know what I'm saying,
me little bullet packets and all kind of like you know,

(44:28):
we did, we did what we did. But so it
was it was lit. But I just was I was
in that library. I was beating that library up. Initially.
I probably spent my first forty five days in that library.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Was you was you picking up? What was you?

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Of course, you know I'm I'm a self help book
type of human being.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Man.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Uh, I think the wealthiest men in Babylon.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Uh, you know already read Ridge Dad Poor Dead. Yeah,
but I doubled back on that. Yeah, forty eight long
the Powers. It's almost like a bible you could read, reread,
and reread. I was heavy on real estate. I was
tweaking on anything that was real estate related. Sports magazines,

(45:14):
du pump magazines, uh, double leg shale magazines.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Then four agreements, uh.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Four agreements Green yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Uh. Then who else I had?

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Uh the one I was just talking about law of attraction.
They had some other new laws of attraction in there.
And then you know I had my pro my pro
black books too, so uh, I can't think.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Of their name, but you know, like the Huey P.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Newtons and uh Marcus Garvey and uh.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Just I was on that type of high.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I like that. I like that and a and so
other than the library.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Was scribbling, writing raps, writing raps.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
They let me get my Louis of Time, a little
journal so I'll be having drunk.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, they let me slither that in there.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I don't want to put it on blast like that, right,
But I was really living in their dream man. So
you know they I ain't gonna go there. I just
understand that I had on like you know, I mean
Gucci flip flops in there. Bring send me Cartier of goggles.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I was living like that.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Man, Listen, I might have to I might have to
send you.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
You have prescriptions, look, you got you you get prescriptions.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
But I ain't have no prescriptions. But I'm Cartier frames
in there. I'm living like that.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
No Linsnah, I had to linb. But they, you know,
they I'm telling them they prescriptions.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, these prescribed, baby, Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
See without them.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
You know, I'm pulling up to the visit main Cardier prescriptions.
Uh Mary Maria uh uh? Teddy shows main of Merry
trainers on. It was life was lit, man. I ain't
gonna overdo it like that. You know, we're eating in and.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Out burgers and life crazy, Okay, tweaky, Okay, it was tweaky.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
So it's not all because I remember right here Daveo
like halfway through the stint and he.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Was like, nah, he good.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I'm like, are you sure like I wanted to send
me send me as a his info soccer, you know, right, yo, man,
I'm like you and bro like, let me give me,
give me his info soccer, you know, right to him whatever.
He was like, he was like, bro, he chilling. Bro,
yeah he not even tripping. I'm like really like yeah, bro,
like it's all good.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Well then he went like, but yeah, look we got
these records. I'm like, oh, so it's like, so y'all
not tripping at all. I was like, okay, cool, so
that not.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Most definitely, you know this once we don't really like, yeah,
the truth. But as far as any time I've been
in jail, man, this was the most peachy state I
have ever encountered.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
It was it was love.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
They I can actually touch my children when they visit,
you know what I'm saying. They was kind of like
tweaking about me holding them, but I could touch him.
Were sitting there, we part laying, were drawn, we coloring.
It was lip man.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
When did they When did the kids find out that
you wasn't going to the studio?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Like, how did they?

Speaker 4 (48:20):
So? Now they pulled up on me and I told
him I was at a camp. I'm like, this is
a camp and uh, you know, uh, they just didn't
get it. So, you know, first, I think the first
month they were, they was really unbothered, you know what
I'm saying, because they kind of getting away with murder.
Yeah say yeah, props saying here we kind of you
know what I'm saying. So, but uh, after that, after that,

(48:42):
after that, thirty days, because it was thirty days I
didn't get to see him.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
I was in a shoe.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Then thirty days, you know what I'm saying, them visiting
and kicking it with me. So about sixty days in
is when they it was really start affecting them. And
you know, the little one crying when it's time to leave,
and so told me, yeah, didn't make no sense.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
And then the older one, you know, she uh, she
just asked me.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
She was like what she was like, why you can't
go with us? I'm like, I gotta stay here. I
gotta follow through with my commandment.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Baby.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
She like, well, you too old to be doing that.
She felt like I was too old to be sitting
at the camp. And cause camp it's a camp. So
she like, you too old that and so that that
really like it left a stain on me, like I
am too old, whether you understand what's really going on?
Or not I am too Yeah, you right about that,

(49:38):
And so you know, I kind of like carry that
in my back pocket, like you know a lot of
things that I find myself indulging in if I feel
like I'm too old. It's like I hear a little
vocals in my back in the background, like you too old?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Your dog gonna keep it real with man?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
You too old to be here? What are you doing?
I love that.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
That's fire, bro, I just want to I love that
because it's usually it usually be those small little things.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Correct your yeah, put you that, to put you in
you know what I'm saying, get you hold long, get
get it together, and like you said, it'd be smart
and it be things that like she didn't know what
she was saying when she said that, but you know,
me and my girl, we just chuckled cause we like,
shoot right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
So yeah, but uh yeah, I'm through with that. I'm
I'm through with that. Man. We shouldn't be encountering that
no more.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
That's what's up. So yeah we can.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
So I also want to talk about I wanna I
wanna talk about some of this music.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Oh, I want to go back to on on Survivor's Guilt.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
I think it was the song make the News.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
It's Gotti is on there, black youngsters on there, shout
Youngster And that song was done before the CMG deal, right.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Nah, I think we did that after.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
That was AFTERMG dial.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yeah, I think we did okay after.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
But I had to relateationship with Gotti before the That's
why I wanted to get into.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
It, and a relationship with Youngster before that. Before I
thought about being a CMG member. You know what I'm
seeing me, we already was locked in. So it's organic.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Because you've been like I'm you've been indie and you've
been doing your thing.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I mean, you had previous situations, but it's pretty much.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Been you and the team most definitely, and now going
into a system quote unquote the machine and stuff like that.
I think everybody was caught by surprise because it's like, wait,
Mazi is you know doing this thing?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Like you know, he's doing the deal and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
And then I look at people like like Russ, I
look at the Russell and they're raving an independent flag
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
You being rich independently.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Yeah, let's pop r Yeah, let's pop.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Right, that's what this part is. So like you being
rich independently, I always I was. I like to pay
attention to the fan fare. Right if a press release
go out and says Mazi does an exclusive deal with
so and so, so and so, I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
That's a pivot because I know that it's been incubated

(52:05):
for so long.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
It's just being a small circle of team. Right.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
But then you talk about doing that record that was
done after the deal, but you said you had a
relationship already, So I want to know. I guess the
question is what made you decide to go ahead and
change the situation and not.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Take it all to the face Like.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Nah, I just wanted to first and foremost shut out.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Gotti shout out to Yo Gotti.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Yeah, I love the way he operate. I like, you know,
I love his movement, everything he got going on, And
you know, I wanted to just electrify what I had
going on.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I wanted to just electrified. Man.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
I felt like I'm seeing me. You know, I understand
the business. I understand it independently. You got about five
to twenty people on your team, but with that machine,
you know that jumped from twenty to one hundred people
working for you, and so I understand that, and I
feel like we've been doing exceptionally well with this fire
to twenty people, you know, entourage, and so I just

(53:03):
wanted to see if, if, if if I could capitalize
on that honey piece, man on that hunting, on that
honey unit, man on that that uh that manpower. You
know that that that label offers that machine. I wanted
to see, you know, put me in rotation with that machine.
Let's see when we get going. But uh, I almost
definitely want to highlight that.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
You know, I love the independent run. I love the
independent run just because it it's more.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
It's more intimate. Everything about it is intimate.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
You feel me. But I understand business. I respect business,
and it's like, come on, let's turn it up a
notch man.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
You know what I'm saying me.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I get you the now.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Also, something that's very interesting is I went back and looked,
because we've been rocking for a minute, you dropped every
year since two thousand ten.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Did you know that? Man?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
I show know that I wish I could drop five
projects a year.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
If I could drop.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
One year, you dropped like four. I think in one year.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, I think early on, early on. Yeah, so you know,
and once.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
More, you haven't missed thirteen years. Come on, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Bite down, bite down. This will feed my squadron. This.
You know this that when you I wake up in
the morning and I jumping at automobile minnis.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
You know it's foreign. Uh.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
You know what I'm saying me, the the that's sitting
on a pair of Pirellis and four Giato's and some
more of it. Right, I'm pulling up into this driveway
man and parking into the garage where the square footage
is crazy. You know what I'm saying, it's something like
two point high. You know what I'm saying, two point suffer.
I'm talking about you. I mean, and you know this me,

(54:50):
I'm paying mortgage on this. This co minds. You know
what I'm saying. Man, I'm draped in the latest fashion.
You know I got relationships with the drawler. I could
tell him to see anything I want. You know, my
kids is going to a prestigious I'm seeing me school
and you know, life is lit. But that came from this,
That came from this. That ain't come from selling balls.

(55:12):
It ain't come from pepping holes. It came from this,
and so I really respect the game. And you know, uh,
this is what I've been dreaming us since yay Hi.
So the fact that I'm actually here, I'm.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
In love with it.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
When people interrupt my dinners I'm seeing me by wanting
to picture or a photograph or they want to FaceTime, FaceTime,
they mom because they mom in love with my music.
You know, I give them that time of day, no
matter if I'm with my family, I give them that
time of day because you know, this is Yeah, this
is what I've been this, this is what I've been
dreaming of. I sat on that bunk and I pray

(55:48):
for this life.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
You feel me. I'm here now, this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I wake up ed daly astonished, so I can't complain.
So most definitely, man, let's get that work in songs.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I know you still tweaking the album. You know you're perfectionist,
but that more to You, that's my favorite song.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
That I'm in more than you. Yeah, I sewed it
up and went the world for you right there. I
ain't Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah that one right there.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I'm in love with that one. Pop your ship.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
But I want to get to some of these because
I know we gotta go.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
But on righteous Man, okay, is gonna feel the righteous Man.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I'm gonna tell you, I'm talking to you, righteous Man
post to pull up to the shows if you.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Really want me, yeah, yo, man is to get it done.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Nigga's really on me.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Okay, let's hold that thought.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
But then we go to actor fool my location on
the flyer niggas pussy, they ain't gun right. But then
I look at the other song, which which what you
should put the video if I died right now? I
feel like it's a lot of forecasting of death.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Yeah yeah, but okay, just just just no, go ahead,
do your ship first.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
And so the way I'm looking at when I'm listening
to the project, I'm like, oh, this is a lot
of it's a lot of dark shadowing. But then I
look at the cover and everything it makes sense to me, right,
And so I'm like, Okay, I get the direction.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Of where you're going.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
But do you feel like that, do you feel like
there's there's that energy around you?

Speaker 4 (57:33):
I feel like I got a maneuver around it. Every
day of my life, I got a maneuver around it.
I'm always conscientious about you know, how I'm moving, what
I'm doing, and I'm seeing me, you know, and I
know it exists, you feel me. I lose somebody three
four times a year. And and and when I say somebody,

(57:54):
I'm talking about close ones, loved ones, and so just
me understanding that, you know. So, like I said, I
I celebrate every time I wake up. I'm here, you know,
I'm here in the present form, and so, uh, my
whole thing is just it's kind of like it's kind
of like me me. It's kind of like me tryna

(58:17):
trying to shake off that feeling. So I most definitely
get them feelings, but it's like me shaking it off,
you know what I'm saying. Me, My last case, it
was for me finding ways to protect myself. And so
I don't feel like I don't feel like i'm'a check
out earlier earlier than expect it. But I understand that

(58:37):
that's what lurk in the shadows, you know what I'm
saying me, And I can't help but put it in
my music because sometimes it bothered me, and anything that
bothers me, I kind of it just naturally oozes out.
But uh, nah, man, I'm I'm full of life. I'm
living life. I'm enjoying life. Man, I feel like I
got plenty more of life to go. But I can't

(58:58):
shake I can't shake my process. I can't shake you.
I'm seeing me with with what's real? What's real?

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Man?

Speaker 4 (59:05):
And you know that's one of my biggest fears. It's
just checking out before my time man, and leaving and
and leaving the girly faced gang stranded or you know,
not fulfilling my obligations. So uh, you know, uh, I'm
vulnerable in my music. I feel so I I I
give you my true feelings. I give you you know, uh,

(59:27):
my true fears.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
I'm with that.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
I think that it's important just to note that because
like we need you.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
I mean, look at like you said, you've seen the
album cover, so you look on the album cover. Anybody
I put on that album cover, Bro, These ain't I'm
j I'm not just grabbing faces from the archives to
put on the album covers. These my real loved ones.
These people out and grew up with day one, not
a dead go and I made it.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
The album initially was gonna be called Genocide we done
switched the title, but that's the whole, that's that's anybody.
I didn't put Granny face on there cause she didn't
pass away. Do the genocide? You feel me? Now, anybody
that's on that our album cover is a participant or
a casualty of genocide. And so uh, you know just

(01:00:18):
from that alone that you see all the depth that
we deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
I done pay for over ten funeral services.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
You know what I'm saying me, I Dodne built hundreds
of people out of jail, like in real life, no exaggeration.
And so uh, if you're dealing with all this death
around you, you can't help but think like damn, you
know what I'm saying me, Like you know this, it's
real bruh. And they ain't dyed, you know what I'm saying,
They dying do the genocide. Uh, black on black active,

(01:00:48):
black on black crime, and so you know, I understand it.
It's like people aks me how old I when they
talk about age. It's like, I'm running to get to
my fifties. You know, most people wanna be young forever.
I'm running to get to my fifties. I want to
get to a point where I don't care what enemy
I encounter with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
They don't want to kill me because we're too old
to be doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, I feel that, you hear.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
I mean, I want to be at a at a
at a place where I'm just really at peace because
I know it's not a soul on this earth that
won't me dead. You feel me, and so, uh, we're
not there yet. So that's why you hear that in
the music.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Man, I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
You, Bro, My vice versa my dog.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
You know what I'm saying. You always keep it real
with me. I always keep it this honey with you
for shit. Glad you hear you look good?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Vice versus man.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
I just told you you're getting younger and younger, my boy,
go in and give me the recipe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Man, what's the ingredient?

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I've been on Sea Moss activated bros and bitters.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Bro, I put you on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
We're gonna holler.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
I appreciate you, Bro. Congratulations on everything you know. Get
home to that girly game.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yeah, stay free, Yeah, sir, appreciate it is a big
dark live mm