November 21, 2023 • 53 mins
On this episode Chuck Dizzle & DJ Hed get transparent about life, inconsistency and apologize to the supporters.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, We're back at it homegrown. You know what
I'm look, I'm chucked by the way. Yeah, you know
you are DJ head and we are alive from the
five Factory Studio.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Five Factory for hosting us again. Was it too much?
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm just con closed a laptops. I ain't got no
topics today. Three months three, I don't know. It's been
too long.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Put like this.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Man, We've been getting a lot of a lot of comments.
We've been getting a lot of people reaching out being like, yo,
where y'all at what y'all been doing.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Somebody hit me and was like you good.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's never good when somebody saying you good. No, let
me look at my chemra. No, it ain't good. Life
has been life, and man, I don't know about you.
I mean, we've had conversations off the mic, just just
life situations, to be perfectly honest. Some we'll probably get into.
Some we may just breeze off of a man. I
want to apologize to the audience. I'm gonna take accountability you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You've done this again.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I feel like you had one of these, one of
these conversations with me that that kind of hit home
and you was just like, yo, your energy's off. Just
to be point blank, and I agree with you. Life
has been whooping my ass lately. I'm gonna be perfectly honest.
I don't know if it's going from now. I'm gonna
tell you what it is. I think the transition from
(01:30):
going from one kid to two is a lot, right double,
it's the.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Double, right, the transition of being now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I've been forty four a couple of months now, so
like that's a whole different mental.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Whatever you want. Forty four, No, I'm forty this whole time.
I never knew. I was like, bro, we skipped a
couple of years. I was like you forty, I'm tripping alright.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Ah, No, you know my birthday was in Man turned forty.
It's a lot ofthday.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
See this is what you guys don't know about it.
Head forgets everything.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Don't remember your birthday. What we do. We were in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I barely saw you for my birthday because you went
to Okay, you went to Vegas, and I think we
saw it just for like ten minutes. I saw you
at to test the charging stations. On the way out,
Uncle pulled up to I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that was your birthday.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So I'm saying that to say it's like different life
moments are happening right now for me, man, And to
be honest, I feel like I'm stuck, stuck at what
just not advancing the way I kind of envisioned life,
you know what I mean? And and yes, and for
all practical purposes, I'm successful. I'm happy. There's a lot
(02:51):
of things that that I got going on for myself.
You know what I'm saying, still got I still got
my job. You know what I'm saying. I'm blessed. You know,
I got a beautiful wife, a beautiful support of family.
But for me, I think my own expectations kind of
get getting my own way. And when you were talking
to me about like the energy being off, and I'm like,
damn you right, something something has to give. And me, naturally,
(03:14):
I'm the type of person where I'm always gonna figure
it out. You've known me for fifteen plus years, you know,
I've seen me through some traumatic experiences. I'm always figured
figure it out. But for whatever reason, this last year
and some change, ish like I just haven't been able to.
(03:38):
I don't know if it's an answer or I honestly,
and I told you this, I don't know what it is.
I'm just still trying to figure it out. But it's
been messing with me more than any other situation has.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
When and I can't.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I can't answer with you when you don't, when you can't,
when you haven't solved a problem. So trying to figure
it out, just trying to figure it out, yeah, Lord,
And I think the biggest thing is the like clarity
for me because I think one of the things you
asked me and shout outs to pp Man Pep Happy.
He had a conversation off air as well. He's like, man,
what do you want? And for me not being able
(04:13):
to answer that or had that clear definition where before
I always knew, It's like, damn, I can relate to that.
It's hard, you know what I'm saying. It just just
being transparent. It's something I'm I'm living through right now.
I'm going through it as we speak. I don't have
the answer that I'm not here to here to say,
oh yeah, finally, I don't have it figured out. I
know the things that are going amazing for me right now,
(04:34):
and I'm grateful for that. But then there's other times
I'm just like, dude, man, you're not where you want
to be. So that's where I'm kind of been wrestling.
And in results of that, you know, I haven't been
as consistent with the podcast, and you know, when we
try to schedule guests, y'all can take I'll take the
heat for majority of it, because there's been times where
(04:55):
we've had guests lined up and for whatever reason on
my side, either I could pull up, life stuff happens
and we couldn't make the show. And I want to
apologize to the guests too that we've had booked. I
want to apologize to you. I want to apologize to
PB and more importantly the fans, the people that support
Homegrown for not showing up the way that I know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We can show up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So, and it's not just all me. I mean, there's
other things that we can factor into it, the consistency
and just whatever. But that's me taking accountability on as
why we haven't been as present, you know what I'm saying.
So for me, to the audience, to you, to everybody
anybody watch them, and I apologize, I'm gonna get through it. It's
nothing that I mean I appreciate the folks that check
(05:38):
up and probably will check up on me. It's nothing
that you need to be concerned about in that sense,
it's just grow. Sometimes you go through life and you
don't have the answers, and I get sick of people
that present that they do have the answers when you
really don't. So even if you see on my timeline,
you probably see a lot of the highlights because.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
On one end, I don't want to be.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't want to have a pity party either, Like
I don't want to just get on like, oh I
had the roughest day to day, Like it ain't about that,
it's about me trying to figure it out, but it's
it's it's tough to be perfectly honest, bro. I think
I think that's good. That's that's I mean, one, we're
being transparent with you know, the people that rock with us.
So again like that's dope. And on my end, the
(06:24):
same thing, same sentiments and all that, the same sentiments,
same sentiments as what, same sentiments as far as like yeah,
I don't want like life who everybody like? I think
some specific between twenty three just in totality, I think
the year logged off in August, and I'm serious, like
the year just.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Logged off in the year was like, yeah, I'm through.
I'm done. I'm through.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Y'all got that, y'all. Yeah, I'm cool. I see y'all
next year. Like it's like it's like it's like when
you know, how when you go to the store. I mean,
like when you go through the drive through and they
just put the thing in the window, Like my nigga,
I waited, I'm here, I waited for this. They're like, nah,
we're closed. That's how I feel like the year happened,
knowing with opportunity, with resources, with energy, with consistency, with
(07:10):
just everything.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I can't speak to everybody else, but.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
For me, that's kind of what what happened with me too,
and then also me taking accountability. I'm like, I've just
been putting so much energy in so many different directions
for so long, and I'm just like, man, I'm whooped. Yeah,
I'm just well, see, the thing is, you don't give
that off a lot of people don't know that about you.
(07:33):
And I think, again, going back on my end, that's
where I feel like, damn, when you you you exert
this energy right and it looks like you don't have
no problems it do.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It comes across that way. Sometimes it seems like you
haven't figured out really absolutely okay.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Even so when we like when we when we had
that conversation, it was like, yo, why don't you do this?
Why don't you do it? I'm like, damn, you're right
that that's true. My brain just don't operate that way.
You're like, yeah, because when I you know, when this
happened to me, this is what I did, it's like,
oh damn, well damn, how come my brain ain't working
like that?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So it's like it becomes it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I then at that point start to compare and what
you should never really do, but you also want to.
I think that's that's the beautiful part about partnerships and
people holding you accountable and like you you know you
iron sharpers aren't iron. But sometimes it's like when you
feel like you're not holding up your part of the deal,
it's like, oh, damn, something's wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So to hear you say that, oh, you're going through
light stuff as well, it makes me feel like, okay,
well damn, I'm not alone. I didn't throw I didn't
know that. I gave off that I got to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Bro. You you seem like you got to figure it out?
Is that do I feel like I do? It seem
like a for real Okay, So I'm not tripping up?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay, So all right, all right, I thought I was
thought I wasself. I'm like, okay, something gotta be wrong
with me, cause he must. He must got the memo.
I didn't get the memo, all right, So for me,
you got the test. I've been going, this is what
I've been dealing with. I'm dealing with uncertainty. I'm dealing
with DJ head is uncertain a. Yeah, I've been dealing
with about what fogginess and hell shit, I wouldn't have
(09:11):
had a heart monitor I was on.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I had that was scared we put that in the
group chat.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I was like, God, damn, bro, so I have like
cardiac or not cardiac. I have a It's some word
that don't have no vowels in it that the white
people said.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You know, the word looked like medicine. You're like, that
ain't good. Yeah, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Whenever you listen, whenever you go to the doctor and
they say a word, they don't have no vowels in it,
and it just looked like a gang of word symbols
and hieroglyphics.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It ain't good. It ain't. So I'm laying there. I
go to the cardiac well.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
First of all, I start having heart palpitations, which is
why I start getting on that this doctor saving ship
and stop being meeting all that. People keep telling me,
I see my mom, I just see my I went
to go went out to my mom's like.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
This last week. She's like, you keep losing weight even
like you just now.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I don't even feel like I lost no weight, but
everybody like that you lost weight. You look like I don't.
I can't tell long story short. I was having these
like random heart flutters. They call it palpitations medical term, right,
paliptations is like if you ever experienced this, it'd be
like a random like offbeat, like a misfire and the
engine and your heart just like real fast, or it'll
(10:23):
be like off or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You can't really feel your heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Like because it's something it's something that just happens naturally,
but you know when it missfire because it triggers anxiety.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And so I was having those every day.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So I start going to the doctor and getting checked
out and stuff like that, and they hooked me up
to all kinds. We'll put the picture, but they hooked
up to me, hooked me up to these machines. I
had a heart monitor on for you for a while.
I wanted to throw. I wanted to throw one jab
and in the group chat, I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I look like Wolverine.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Nah, you look like fifty in the club. In the club,
but fat fit with fat fit super Bowl fits. I
look like all the like super Bowl trying to try
to do the upside down set up.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And yeah, I was like, I'm gonna let him live though, man.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, So I had to go through that, and then
just for them, I went through like it was like
a three month process of going into cardiologist and getting
my heart checked out and stuff like that, all for
them to tell me, yeah, it's nothing wrong with you,
like you just got to relax and not hell, no,
something wrong, And I'm like, something wrong. I'm like, I
don't like that answer. I mean when I tell you
(11:28):
I did everything. They took blood. I did a heart monitor,
a take home monitor, a monitor in there. I did
an ultrasound. I'm not even lying to you. I laid
on the table and why and the dude wrapped the
jelly on my Yeah, he rubbed the jelly on my
titty and he was moving it around.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They didn't rub it on the titty, by the way.
So so and he was.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Moving around, and I'm watching my heart beat on the
screen like it's an infant, right, And I was like,
what's that hair? I was like, it was like this
weird like hair inside inside my heart.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I said, what's that?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He's like, that's your vowels, that's your heart vowels. I'm like,
you see it's opening and closing opening. I don't know where, Yeah,
I don't know where he was from. But wherever he from,
they make Volkswagens.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You stupid got such a multi layer joke. That was good.
That was so multi layer. Niggas that watched this ain't
gonna catch that. But anyway, Uh go do your research
on Volkswagens and Adidas.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So anyway, so anyway, I'm so witty, uh continuous.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So anyway, I was watching my heart pala Potate and
the vows and stuff. Anyways, Palpatate, by the way, Potate, no,
you said you're putting an extra L on that bitch.
It's not palo potate, it's palate. No, you said pala potate.
No's the you're saying pala potato. That's a that's an a.
You're you're saying that. No, run to take oh please,
(13:08):
people run to take back anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I let you.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I let you cook for like the first three of them.
That bro, you can't you can't be a witty You
can't be this witty and not know how to say
pal patato.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So you didn't know a lot of shit?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right on? It spelled permeating. I'm not gonna do that anyway.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So I started getting checked out and I was going
through it trying to figure it out, and I just
couldn't figure it out, and I was having light anxiety
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I started taking gummies weed gummies. Oh wow, I started wait,
didn't you okay? You you brought up a good point.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I forgot about this because there was a there was
a picture that I saw of you at the Usha village, right,
and we never talked about this.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh me smoking. You smoked for the very first time,
and we never talked about this. We never talked about it.
So we're gonna hold on.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Let's you do all this and to realize that nothing
is wrong. They say nothing, And what's crazy is I
told you process I went through to find a black
female doctor. I went, I found a doctor. She told
me the same thing. She's like, it's nothing wrong with you.
And so that's what I kind of once I once
I went to the cardiologist, lovely little white lady, little
pleasantly plump white lady. She was like, she was really
(14:26):
really nice to me, and she was like, yeah, that
like I understand what you're saying, but like, there's nothing
wrong with you. Like and I'm like, this is the
third doctor I done been too that says nothing's wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, I'm glad to hear that, but it's just I
know that has to be on your mind. Like, Yo,
what I know, what I'm feeling is real. And what's
crazy is the less I think, the less I think
something is wrong me, the less palpitations I have, the
less anxiety I have. It's like, so to go back
to what we were saying, my brain is fucked up,
(15:00):
my hypochondria, Oh, like I'm scared of the bacteria.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
What okay, Yeah, so I don't think I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think something is always wrong with me, but I
think I've just been going through this transition mentally and
I don't necessarily know if like I said, I tried therapy,
I went on better Help, I tried better help, I
tried all.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I was just trying everything.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me change my diet, let me go to the doctor,
let me change being proactive, just trying to figure out
what the fuck is wrong with me, and they keep
everybody's telling me nothing is wrong with you. And so now,
just to go back to what you're saying, I really
think that it's a psychological thing that we go through.
And to your point what you're saying as far as like,
oh you dealing with this or.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Is life is just lifing?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I think life is just life and for everybody, and
it's showing up physically in my body, and then you
might show up as mental blockade right for me and
my show like for It's two ways. I went to
this lady who does Shout Out the Jaz when she
took me to she took me to this lady who
does Fascia. I've been doing some whole other ship. Yeah,
(16:11):
it's on the last episode of homegoom radio. Uh, you
did the Yoni steam. I went listen, hold on, hold on,
And so now you're doing the what is the fashion?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I don't know. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I okay, I've been trying massages with the the scraper
they used just like this scraper. So I tried that
and that's different than that, Like when that's different than
the regular massage.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's like metal.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The girls they get the when they get what's the
thing that when they get the body, not the hot stone,
the thing that girls do the to they do something
that they keep going because I'm thinking it's the same thing,
but maybe I'm it's not wrong. So I tried the
little metal scraper thing. I forgot what that's called, and
I went to this lady who does fascia. Fascia is
(16:58):
a thin layer of membrane in between your skin and
your bones, almost like cartilage and your leed right. And
what it is is when you have like stress, not
like I had this big knot at the top of
my spine and it was causing issues.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And what that's caused is stress.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like you know how people are like, oh, people hold
their stress in different places, might be in your stomach
might be in your back. All my stress is in
my back and my upper shoulders. You gotta hump back
just all your stress like ad. So, so I got
we always talk about this, So I got this. I
hold all of my stress in my upper back area.
(17:37):
So I went to the fashion lady and she kind
she kind of broke it down in layman's terms. So
imagine you have two T shirts on. The undershirt is
the fascia, and you know how the undershirt might bunch
up under the top shirt. She smooths that out. So
so you're so smooth, So your skin, so your your muscles,
and your skin is smooth and lays flat really as
(18:00):
opposed to being bunch stuff under the undershirt. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. So long story short. I go
sit with her. She does she's working on me. Mind you,
she barely touches, not a massage. She's just working your skin,
smoothing out your fashion underneath your skin. Right, some different
this some different, she's weird.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Does it feel like a massage?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Though it feels like a massage, but she's barely like
touching you. Really, Yes, it's like some weird weird stuff.
Does it weird ass white lady from from Canada because
she don't even live here.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So I go meet with her.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
She's working on me and as I'm laying there, this
is where it all, this is, this is we're gonna
make a left and it's Finn go there. So I'm
laying there and she's working on my neck, and as
she's working on my neck, I just fall asleep. I'm
talking about I'm going fastively, I'm talking about within five minutes.
(18:55):
I'm out right, I don't know. Let me let me
ask you. One question, was the sence say she didn't
feeling like a massage in the sense, oh this feels good,
or you just kind of like, I don't feel it's
because then sometimes when you get a massage, you're like, okay,
you need to rub a little harder, or it's like
you know, you know, you need to do a little
bit more. You're saying, she's barely doing anything to you.
Are you feeling the sensation I just feels like a massage,
(19:18):
but it's not. Does it feel good? Yeah, it's it's soothing. Okay,
So I'm sleep, you're sleeping, okay. As I wake up,
I'm thinking I'm out ten minutes, like because I'm like
I'm just looking around or whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm sleep for an hour. Get at it. She's been
working on me for ninety minutes.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
As we leaving, I'm talking like because this is Jazmonin's friend,
She's like, she's like, so, how was it for you?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I'm like that was different. Like She's like, you feel different.
I'm like yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
She was like yeah, I could see the hump and
everything gone, like the way down in your back, in
your neck, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, I feel weird. I feel different.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
She was like, I want to tell you something that
I didn't tell you about this lady. I'm like, what
you mean she tells me. She's like, well, she's not.
She she's kind of like gifted a little bit. And
I didn't want to tell you because I knew you
would the can you damn right, I wouldn't have came
any why'd you tell me this at the beginning you're.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Talking about it.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
She's like, well, she kind of like has like senses
that she taps into when she touches people.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
She said, in the middle in the middle of.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
While she was working on your right, like somewhere right
here in the middle of your back. She just looks
up straight at the sky and she looks over at me.
She says, does he have a relationship with his dad?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Whoa? Whoa? How long you got lady? She's like, what's
up with? Something's up with his dad? You gotta be kidding.
You said this is a Canadian lady. Yeah, some lady
(20:58):
I just met that town. To be fair, she wasn't
in stereotype you.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No, I mean, she says, a lot of this is
caused from his dad. I don't know what's up with
his dad or what's going on, but a lot of
his stress is from his dad and he needs to
like figure that out.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So she's telling her while I'm sleep.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So she so she tells me that, and I'm like, nigga,
what First of all, why would you bring me into
some some some lord of the rings shit and hey
you need it, you know what I mean? Doctors and
they couldn't figure it out. So I'm like, all right,
I need to figure this out. So I hit my
mom because she still talked to my dad, and she's like,
(21:39):
I'll tell her what's going She's like, yeah, I've been
telling him he should talk to you and this and
that then my spiritual advisor kind of told me the
same thing in the nutshell a while back, like yeah,
you know, And then Salah's been telling me that, like, yeah,
I think a lot of your you can't sleep and
all that because you got to talk to your dad.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But what do you like?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
What do you think you have to get conversation? I
don't know, because correct me if I'm wrong. The last
time that I remember you bring it up and we
talked about it, he heard you on the radio and
reached out because of something I forgot what it was.
Wanted you to show up somewhere or whatever. That was
the last time that you guys had had a conversation. Well,
(22:19):
the reason why I didn't never talk to him is
because I felt like I would benefit from it. And
so the last time we was going to talk, I
told him the only way I would talk to him
on the radio is we talk live on the radio,
and that and the radio sign I shut that. No,
he was with it, Really he was with it. I
went to Doc and I told Doc. He said, you know,
that's a compelling idea. Never never heard that, never seen anybody.
(22:41):
Yeah you have vox pro and let me see. Yeah,
I was like, well, the reason why I didn't go
through with it is because my dad don't know me.
So he's like excited. He's like, yeah, I'm going to
radio with my son, and oh, you don't know what
this is. You don't even know this. You just heard
a thirty second talk break. You don't know what this is.
You don't know, you don't watch the podcast, you don't subscribe,
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you could don't know what this is.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You clearly don't know what you're finna watch. So I
shut it down. That's why I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But why, Like, because you don't want my My thought
process is, why wouldn't you want him to see like okay, okay,
get caught off guard with who you thought I was
and boom, Like I didn't want to do that to
him on the radio. But again, for the people that
is transparent, like behind the scenes, you could have recorded
(23:32):
not put it out.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That's true, but I didn't. I didn't see a need
to do that. Something deeper than that, man, why not,
let's talk. I didn't want to do it. Why not
because I didn't want to embarrass him. But you're not
embarrassing him if you don't put it out.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh, well, then at that point I feel like I
wasted my time. We don't record nothing, don't put it out.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's not true. We recorded it and don't put out
There's been times we recorded something didn't put it out.
But yeah, but it doesn't happen often put it like that.
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I don't believe that. I don't want to record nothing
and don't put it out but it. But I guess
my point is you're not wasting your time if you
get something from it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I understand that, But I actually don't feel like I'm
gonna get anything from it, which is why I wanted
to do it in the radio, because I feel like
somebody else would benefit if I don't. I'm not gonna
benefit that up. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I would think. I think you would benefit from it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Clearly, if you can't sleep and you got the hump
in your back and there's membranes all to the left
and to the right, and it's from your dad and
she she getting palipitation. No, what I'm saying is that
I think you could get something from it. You may
not think so, and in turn it you know how
to control your own narrative anyway. So it's like you
can you can spin it to the point where somebody's
going to get something from it.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sold you didn't do it. I
didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So that was the last time you guys that was
Was that a conversation you guys had had, like Usa,
it was, Hey, I want to do it on the
lib in the radio. He says yes, and then you
just made a decision not to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So was it was it.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Him following up with you type of thing or was
just just communication? And that's typically how your relationship is
when I'm like yeah, I mean he'll text me on
Christmas and he'll text me like, so what did.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You get from this? Now? Like are you I need
to talk to this nigga? I want my sleep back?
What you mean? Hey? I love how the way you
connect this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's not even oh man, I need to get in
contact with Pops.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
There's a deeper mining. I just want my sleep bag.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's all I want. I don't even talk about none
of other shit. I need peace.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
If this white lady said that, that's what I need
to get my sleep back.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Sign me up.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
If I had to go to Honduras to get sleep,
sign me up. If I got to give up meat,
I love. I'm a Korean barbecue nigga. Yeah, if I
got to give up meat to get my peace, sign
me up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I'm not one of them niggas. Tell me what I
gotta do. Okay, before I want to I want to
get back to the park.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Where So what are you gonna do with Pops right
before we go there? I don't want to lose where
I was at with you smoking. You smoke for the
first time with doctor Sabe's hut and doctor Sebby's help.
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It was terrible you.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But to be honest, you've had you've hot boxed, not
by your own will, right, You've had contact high. Yeah,
you're very annoying when you've I've seen you had contact
high once. I was annoying. Yeah, you just see. That's
why don't don't give me don't don't give me no
weed dune.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, don't no.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It was that, And it was you had a sip
of like Margaretita one time or I don't know if
it was about accident anyway, So you didn't get anything
from that when you when you actually smoked it the village,
what do you they said, They said that I hit
it too hard and it burnt my esophage's up. My
whole sage is burnt up. You coughed, Yeah, I coughed,
(26:55):
but it was it was hot, but you didn't get
a sensation after that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I didn't feel any different or any any better or
any less. I just was like, bro, this is hot,
saying it. It burnt my throat up, and I said,
I'm cool. I think I hit it twice just to
make sure. I was like, you hit it to all
you gotta hit just just just in hell, don't don't.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Don't like that's funny. I remember I saw the clip
and I'm like, oh, we never talked about that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, No, I didn't like it, so we ain't for me?
All right, So back to your dad. What's the plans now?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You are you? I don't know. I ain't figured it out.
You need to slip though, Like you said, I ain't
got the answer.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So this is okay. So this is a part of
what's been going on with she was this been going
on with me? Now I ain't figured it out. I
don't have it all figured out. If I had it
all figured out, I'll be sleeping great. I don't sleep good. Well,
I mean they say you need to talk to them, Man,
talk to this nigga. What you're gonna say?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm tired. Give me some sleep, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, that's kind of what's been going on with me.
And then also I've been going through like this career
defining thing because people, like three or four people asked
me like, well, what do you want? Same thing right
with you? I'm like, damn, So it used to be
what do you want your life to look like? This
(28:11):
stems back to a conversation I had with Sallas in
twenty eleven, and I think it's changed, and I think
we don't check in with ourselves to let to update
ourselves on ourselves.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That makes it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I know, I had a conversation with Salas as well.
Now it's one of the same things I came to
the conclusion with So I needed to update myself with myself.
It's like, no, before my goal was dj Am, Rob Deardack,
and Big Boy. I remember that those those are my
three people who I wanted my life to look like.
Now what I want my life to look like? Joe Rogan.
(28:44):
That's it. Then at one point you said, wasn't it
the music had more to do? What it is like
Jamie Fox? And well, no, Jamie Fox is the goal
because I want to be ambidextrious in my skill sets. Okay,
So how does that different than Joe ROGANA because what
I want?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And who?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Because Jamie Fox is the goal because no matter what
I do, I don't want it to see foreign. Jamie
Fox hare put out an album, he could host the show,
he could do a comedy stand up special, he could
do a movie, and none of it looks foreign. It's
all just oh yeah, that makes sense for Jamie Fox.
That's what I want from me anything I do. I'm
in white Man can't jump, that's oh yeah that makes sense.
(29:23):
Oh I'm you know, doing a podcast. Oh yeah, that
makes sense. Oh I'm chairman at the Boys and Girls Club.
Oh yeah, I could see that. Yeah, I can see that, exactly,
got it. I don't want anything to see foreign, but
where I'm headed is definitely more Joe Rogan, Whereas I
want to just have interesting conversations with people, and I
want to make money doing it, and I still want
(29:44):
to DJ, and I'm still doing some music shit that
I can't talk about. But I'm still dabbling into music.
But I think I think I've progressed and I understand
more or less kind of what DEVI was explaining to
me three years ago. Three years no, two years ago,
I was talking to Debbie shot to Debbie Brown and
she was like, don't be afraid to not be the
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guy that knows everything about music.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
She's like, you're bigger than that. Let somebody else do that.
Wait said again, don't be afraid of don't be afraid to.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Be the guy that what she said, don't be afraid
to evolve beyond the music. Beyond that got you like,
don't be afraid to not know the new up and
coming so and so.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Right, that was your ideentaity, which is which is challenging
for a lot of people that don't understand.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And I think that that hits home because you know,
with the platform that we have with Homegrown, we've we've
obviously ushered in a lot of.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The you know, household names. Right.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's like when you talk a TD Kendrick Lamar, you know,
Roddy Rich, like you know, these are people that we've
seen from the start, and it's like your identity is
attached to that. It's like, all right, so who's next?
And it's like, yeah, certain part of us knows, or
we have our our finger on the post. Sometimes we don't,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
For me, I don't know if it's a your thing
or it's just something you're just not gonna get it
right all the time. And like you said, it's okay
to not have that answer. Just she said, don't be
afraid to evolve past that. And she's like, you're beyond
that now. You don't have to know who the next
up and coming person is. You don't have to know that.
Let somebody else know that and bring it to you.
(31:20):
She was like, but don't be afraid to evolve in
a person that you're supposed to be by letting go
of the person who you were. So that's what I've
been dealing with as far as like, and that's also
why I've been absent and like people just hitting me like, man,
I ain't where are you? I remember Vince Staples actually
hit me out of all people. And I don't know
(31:40):
if let me. See, I'm gonna pull up to his
message because it threw me off. Shout out to Vince.
That's my guy. Vince texts me right. He said, sorry
for Vince, but this is this shit really impacted me.
He said, what's up, black man? I said, what up?
(32:01):
He said, I'm just checking in on you ain't tapped
in a minute?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You good?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I said, I'm straight. I'm figuring it out. He said,
I feel you. It's weird out here right now. I said,
it's hello weird. I said, the fake people winning right now?
He said, they always winning. He said, where are you being?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I was like, and this is when this was
last week, damn. And I was like, man, I'm just
trying to figure it out. I just been recalibrating and whatever.
He was like, he said, you just got to carve
out your own lane. They ain't never going to do
it's damn people, they ain't never going to do right
by you.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You only the man. When you make a mockery of
yourself out here, that's lame. He said. I've been.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
He said, I've been, he said, doing everything the right way,
and they keep playing you.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
He said, don't stop fighting though.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I think that that's that kind of that's that's
a bar first of all. But then in the back
of your head, it's like, dude, how do you sometimes
how I think of like how do you progress? When
like that's something that you always say in terms of
and it's the context is a little different, but it's
like not fighting fair.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
When when you see everybody winning by not playing fair
and you're doing things as ethical as possible, you know,
as authentic as possible, and you're seeing everybody win off
the very merit of doing clowns stuff. Most of the time,
it plays it. It plays a mental It messes with
(33:31):
you mentally. I'm gonna tell you some some wild shit
over the last year. It's the first time I ever
related to girls that be insecure on Instagram really and
this is a wild correlation, but I'm explaining girls always
be on Instagram talking about how how for lack of
(33:55):
a better way to say it, holes be winning, right
hoses out here winning they getting white They're doing this
Strippers is winning because they see because the natural girl
is insecure about her body, because they see the BBL
girl getting all the attention and the likes and stuff
like that. And so the same could be said in
what we do. I see this person viral, or this
(34:18):
person getting this contract, or this person being the go
to person that's getting the big interviews, or you know,
the white girl who do the interviews even when she's
not fucking with us no more because she already got
she needed. So the white girl who's doing all the
black people and now she's doing the scarlet Johansson's and
stuff like that. Right, you see these things happen, and
(34:40):
that's this is the first time I ever thought like, oh,
that's what you that's what.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
They're going through.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
They're looking at it like, well, I need a BBL
in order to in order to be seen, or I
need to fuck somebody in the industry in order to
get a record deal, or you know for female artists,
or I need you know, to get I need lashes
in order for somebody pay attention to me. And it's like,
I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
No you don't. You just have to find your tribe. Right.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
So the way I look at it is, I like
I always say this, it's a.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Full circus out here.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I don't want to be an opening act and I
don't want tickets.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I'm cool, y'all can have a circus, y'all can have
to clickbait, y'all can have the beef's, y'all can have
all that.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't want nothing to do with it at this point.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I just don't care abouty Shout out to my dude,
Ace Cord's manager. He called me yesterday on the same
type of time. He's like, bro, it's wild out here
and I ain't finna say what he finna do. But
he's like, I'm pivoting, like they can have all this
fake stuff like whatever, whatever, And I was like, damn
same thing with DJ Moski. How the conversation with Monskie
he left the RAMS. Most people don't know that, sorry Monskie,
(35:50):
but well yeah, people do know that because the girl
is DJing over there now. But Monski left the RAMS
and he's only doing purpose work. He called right, He's like,
I'm doing purpose work moving forward. I'm like, what does
that mean.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
He's like, if it ain't purpose and it ain't pure,
I ain't doing it.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
That's period. It is what it is. And he's like,
I don't care about this. So he's he got his book.
He writes and he's doing all gospel stuff and it's like, damn.
So I'm kind of envious of those people who have
made stark pivots because it's like our identities are attached to,
like you said, hip hop, up and coming underdogs, et cetera,
(36:27):
et cetera, but then we're also not participating in the circuit.
I don't want to sit and talk to this dude,
like because he got nails in his hair, Like, do
you have something to talk about?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You know what I'm saying. If you don't have to
talk about it, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But that's not fair also because sometimes that person may
have something to talk about, you may not know until
you actually sit there.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I want to know if you have something to talk about, Yes,
let's talk, but not just because not just because you
went viral for this and academics, I don't want to
talk to you about that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I don't care about I don't give a fuck about
Rory going to academic's house. I don't care you know
what I'm saying. I don't care about I don't give
funk about none of this stuff that people be talking
about Joe yelling at somebody every week. I don't give
a fuck about that. I just don't care. So does
that automatically remove you from the culture or the conversations. No,
(37:17):
But what it does do is force you to have
to really dive into what you actually want to do. Yeah,
And that's what I've been dealing with now for real.
I mean, I think I'm I'm on the saying I'm
on the same time, I'm on the same time. It's
just forcing yourself to have some real conversations, you know
(37:38):
what I'm saying with yourself and you know, looking within
and and I think for me, it's just understanding that
you may not have an answer tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
And I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'm like, man, I gotta figure this out about Hey,
it's ever evolving thing. Like so it's the same he
was like, Man, look, your life has significantly changed since
we you know, since I pulled up the apartment in
two thousand and ten.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know what I mean. He's like, your life.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Has changed significantly since two thousand and fifteen, you know,
before you you know, after you were married, but before
you had kids. He's like, a it's a it's a
challenging thing thing to navigate. But you haven't, you said, recalibrated,
You're still you're still operating off of two thousand and
nine twenty ten goals. When you know what matter to you,
(38:26):
then doesn't necessarily matter to you. Now you know what
I mean? For me, family comes first, And I didn't
always think that way. It was a straight career. It
was like, oh, man, radio, what man? I remember having this.
I don't know if I think I told I think
me and Tasha had this conversation and after it came
(38:48):
out of my mouth pause, I was just like, yo,
what are You're gonna mess around and lose the greatest
thing that you got? And we were talking about it
was before we had kids, by the way, and we
were talking about living circumstances.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And pursuing the dream. You know, she's a personal chef.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I'm doing mediu, I'm doing radio, and I'm like, man,
I don't care if we got to live in a car,
I don't care what man. Look, I'm beyondest, Like I'm
being honest. This low key comes before you.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I'll say that all the time.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
And I said it and I meant it, but then
after I said. I was like, you don't really mean that,
Like in that moment, I did. But as time goes by,
I'm like, dude, all and I've been through this many times.
I've been through many radio stations. I've had different opportunities.
I've seen how people shift when you lose an opportunity.
(39:42):
Shouts so big Onie to Walla Sharp. He used to
be the program director at one hundred point through the Beat.
He was the one that was responsible for getting me
on on radio for the very first time in LA
and he was like, man, it's crazy how people only
envy that seat.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
They don't care who's sitting in that seat.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
They value the seat so it can be me today,
it could be him tomorrow, it could be heard the
next day. It could be that other person in the
year from there, a year from now or whatever. He's like,
but they it's not me. They just care about that opportunity.
It's the same thing with you in that mic. He's like, unfortunately,
that's just how it goes. They care about you right now,
you know what I mean. But when all this is gone,
(40:20):
you don't have the opportunities, who's gonna be the ones
that's around. Who's the one that's checking up on you,
who's tapping in with you. Who's the ones that's really
there for you in those moments when you don't have
anything to give or you don't have the microphone.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But I was like, oh damn, that's it.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
So I've always cared that in the back of my mind,
and so when I said that in real time, although
I meant it, it was like a check for me.
I'm like, Yo, when when I got my duy, who's
the one driving me to the station for six months,
for eight months until I got my license back, Who's
the one that's taking me to AA when I had
to the sponsor to get my license back.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Who's the one that was you know, who was there
for me?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
When when I got arrested they were about to impound
my car, know who pulled up and made sure that
they impound my car because Oh, I'm just right down
the street Pastasha. It's like, oh damn, okay, So you
got to check yourself, bro, Like, she's the one that's
gonna She's gonna be there through think and thin. Your
family's gonna be there through thinking thin my family. I
got a strong support system right when when I was
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going through some of my lowest times. It's like they
were there, you know what I mean, You guys, you
And that's why when I tell you, when I tell
Salace and Sparkle and just our collective homegrown tribe right
in the group chat as well, I don't want to
disappoint y'all, you know what I mean. I think that's
why a lot of those conversations hit home because it's like, yo,
(41:48):
you you got to make an attempt and in an
effort not only for yourself, but for the people that
are around you that actually do give a fuck, you
know what I'm saying. So again I had to. Now
I'm going through the recalibrating process. It's like, now my
purpose is for my kids, my sons chasing Charles right,
and it's like, Okay, I want to make sure that
(42:10):
they see, you know, somebody that's gonna give it their all,
somebody's gonna give them their time and not choose work
over them. And that's a big thing for me, and
that hits home because I grew up with a mother
who sacrificed her dreams to make sure that we were good.
(42:31):
But then she had to work so hard that she
couldn't be there. So I was a latch key kid,
you know, divorced home. So it's like all of these
things I'm getting hit. I'm just having these realizations as
an adult, as a father, and realizing on what's really important.
Do I care about my career. Absolutely, Am I gonna
go hard on it. Absolutely, I'm gonna do what I
(42:51):
gotta do. But the things that matter to me in
terms of like going hard and absolutely giving no FS
about five years ago has completely changed on what that was.
So it's you know, it's just again I'm rambling, but
I'm saying this is all happening in real time. Well
I had to answer tomorrow, probably not if I do great,
(43:13):
But it's just one of those growing processes. And I
think it's important that we have these conversations so people
know it's not we're more than just talking points, were
more than just topics. We're more than just the interviews
that we bring people and have these conversations on on
with people.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It's like the depth that we have with these people
as well.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
So it's like I kind of wanted to lay that
foundation out for people because you know, I know it's
been a while since we jumped on here. We may
not be as consistent as we should be. And that's
something that I said, I'm gonna take accountability on in
terms of, like, yo, let's get back on it. But
at the end of the day, we're real people, man,
We go through real stuff. And it feels good to
kind of hear low kid. It feels good to hear
(43:53):
that you've been going through it. Not in a selfish way,
because it's like, yo, okay, I'm not tripping in like
everybody's going through this shit, everybody. I called Tiffany one day,
shout to just rock. She's a photographer.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
She documented the culture.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I told her that the other day on Twitter man
saluter or ig or whatever it was, she posted something
I said, Man, I just love how you document our culture.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Man, So shouts out to Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I was talking to her on the phone and because
we you know, we love white humor, like we have
really inappropriate jokes, like extremely inappropriate jokes but I can
never repeat, but we love Jerry Seinfeld and she was like, yo,
Jerry's going to be in Vacas again in a couple months,
let's go. And I'm like, bro, like, I'm literally unemployed
and you don't have like, you don't got it, Like that,
(44:41):
what you mean Jerry Seinfeld tickets expensive, That's the whole thing.
She was like, let's you go fuck it. I'm like,
I'm like, what do you mean? She's like credit card.
I'm like, you can't just be putting stuff on a
credit card. She looked at me with the most serious
face and she said, what are you talking about? How
do you think everyone is living right now? And I
(45:03):
was like, what you mean? She was like, nobody has money?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I was like what. She was like, where have you been?
She's like, the economy's in the toilet. She's like Joe
Biden is sleep at the week. She's like, nobody has
fucking money. Everybody's broke. Everybody talk to your friends. She's like,
just talk to people. Everybody's surviving on credit right now.
(45:32):
And I was like, I was blown because I thought
it was just me. She was like, it's not just you, fool.
She's like, everybody doesn't have any money, everybody, It's not
just you. So what that did was made me start
talking to people, and damn she was right, yeah, like
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everything everybody's going through it. It's not just you, me, him, her,
Everybody's going through it, and so what that did, like
you said, brings you comforts Like, Okay, I'm not tripping,
but I do got to figure it out absolutely, But
at the same time, I'm not tripping, like I think
that's the first thing you think, like, am I tripped?
(46:14):
Like no, you see because you see like obviously you
look at you look online or whatever. I lie and
it just be like like even when I ain't gonna
put the hommy out there, but he be like this
will be the votes planes and I know his situation
in real life credit and no he ain't got no
credit damn.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
So that makes it worse. Like wait, how I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
About like like like like like like like.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
I'm talking was that a palipitation? Now?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Like I'm trying to like I'm talking about Eric Garcetti
is helping him? Okay, got you you know what I'm saying.
And I'm just like, and he on vacations and I'm
just like, what the fuck is going on? What are
I'm not tripping about people living their life. What I'll
be tripping about is how are you living life comfortable?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Damn I'm not comfortable and I can't function properly when
I'm not when I'm not right. So it's like, how
are you just laid up this chilling ocean views and
you know it's some bullshit at the house, man, you
got to come back and low key make sure like
you you duck in the repo man like it's ugly
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and you just like and everybody's like, fuck it.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I don't know how to live.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Fucking I don't know some people. I mean literally that
ignorance is bliss. It really is for some people. I
don't know how to live. Like fuck it, I don't
know how to live like that. But just because you
don't know how to do it, does it mean to
other people know how?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
No? No, no.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
What I'm saying is I'm one shocked, in appalled and
too envious.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I wish I could be oblivious. It's like, hell, you
do that? How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
How do you just be cool uncomfortable like that? I
don't know how to do that, So I be stressed. Actually,
I was talking to a friend of mine last week
and she said, this is literally the first time I
have known you forever, and this is the first time
I ever heard you say that you were stressed.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
I was like, I guess so I ain't never said that.
I don't know, but I'm like, I'm stressed and like
everybody's just chit and I was talking to talking about this,
this is two days ago. I'm like, it's crazy that
people are literally at the club right and the whole
club is burning The club is burning down hip hop.
(48:38):
It's gonna be terrible in the next two years because
as you know from radio, this is a lesson for
you people who don't know anything about radio. We have
what's called recurrence, and the recurrens are filler songs in
between the most popular songs and the old school songs.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Those are called recurrens.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
There aren't gonna be any recurrence because there aren't any
current hits. We aren't making hit records, So then how
do you then play old hit records over the next
couple of years. So you're Finnah start hearing Taylor Swift
on your favorite stations, and because they only wants making
the big records at this point, then media is in toilet.
Media is a dumpster fire right now. If you not
(49:12):
click baiting or talking talking trash, this person or the
Tasha Ka lady.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Is getting sued again. By who is son? R Kelly?
Oh damn she oh CARDI be all in millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Still talking now R Kelly finish sewer he finna win
from jail.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
That's which is wild. What are you like? I don't
understand what's going on?
Speaker 1 (49:36):
And then you got Adam asked asked the young boy
about a crime on camera, and he did. He was
supposed to salute to the young homie from from the neighborhood.
He was I love that he's stone. He was just
looking at him, like, what do you you think I'm
really going to answer that. You see, they just got
Keith E. D So I'm just like, bro, what So Literally,
(49:58):
what I'm saying is the house is burning.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
And niggas in the kitchen making sandwiches. I'm just mere like,
what are you? What the fuck is going? I don't
know how to be comfortable in that. So That's what
I've been dealing with in a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I mean no, it's yeah, it's a lot man. And
again again the purpose of this was we ain't got
the answers.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
We really don't. I don't got this. It's Sway.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Sway shouts out to Sweat, call me that maybe Sway
got the answers for this. Maybe Swey you got the answers.
Let us know. I do know this, and I'll weaken
and I'll leave you with this. When I was talking
to my spiritual advisor, she gave me a bar. Actually
gonna read it. She gave me a bar, and I
wrote it down because I'm putting in my book. I'm
gonna give it to y'all for free right now. What
(50:46):
I happened to buy my book? Oh, thank you so much.
She said, when you're waiting on the Lord, it's not waiting,
and in time, it's waiting as in service, she said,
whenever you're whenever you're waiting, She's like, don't wait as
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in time, wait as in serf. That's when you don't
know what to do, spend your time serving. Got it
being in service to other people, service in your community,
volunteering when you don't know what to do, serve, serve.
And what that does is it read. It circulates the
(51:28):
energy and allows you to be led in whatever direction
you're supposed to be led, and if you're a spiritual person.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
But that was a bar to me. That was like, oh, because.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Low key a friend of mine Aliah told me that
the week before I went to go see her. She
was like, Yeah, when I don't know what to do
and I'm lost, Like I'm lost right now, She's like,
when I'm lost, like I don't have I don't have money,
I don't have this or whatever whenever I whatever's going
on in my life, She's like, I just volunteer, and
I just like, I go like help old people clean
their houses, or I'll you know, go to the to
(52:01):
the to the downtown, to the center, or I go
to wats and help the youth. And she's like and
then everything gets clearer for me. And I was like, damn,
maybe need to give so man, No, that's that's a
good point. That's a good point to end on and
just something to reflect on. Man again, audience, we apologize,
(52:21):
but hey, we're here now and we're not gonna harbor
on the past. Well again, we'll let you know in
real time what's going on, you know what I mean, like,
because you're gonna witness it either way. So part of
the consistency is you're gonna see You're gonna see every uh,
every aspect of it. So uh, but thank you for
holding us accountable. The audience, thank you for holding this accountable,
p B, because people was like, look, bro, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
What's going on? We can we can do an episode,
but we need to talk. He said.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Look, I set the cameras up, but hold up, hold up,
we gotta talk. All right, Yeah, we're saying. We can
count the words Ping said in the last two years,
and he for sure he's eighty percent of more today.
Eighty percent of them was to day stood on business.
So salute the PB man. It's homegrown man. We'll catch
y'all next time. All right, Chuck Dizzle DJ head live
from the Five Factory Studios. Subscribe, comment all that good stuff.
(53:11):
We'll catch y'all next time.
All right, We're back at it homegrown. You know what
I'm look, I'm chucked by the way. Yeah, you know
you are DJ head and we are alive from the
five Factory Studio.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Five Factory for hosting us again. Was it too much?
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm just con closed a laptops. I ain't got no
topics today. Three months three, I don't know. It's been
too long.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Put like this.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Man, We've been getting a lot of a lot of comments.
We've been getting a lot of people reaching out being like, yo,
where y'all at what y'all been doing.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Somebody hit me and was like you good.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's never good when somebody saying you good. No, let
me look at my chemra. No, it ain't good. Life
has been life, and man, I don't know about you.
I mean, we've had conversations off the mic, just just
life situations, to be perfectly honest. Some we'll probably get into.
Some we may just breeze off of a man. I
want to apologize to the audience. I'm gonna take accountability you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You've done this again.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I feel like you had one of these, one of
these conversations with me that that kind of hit home
and you was just like, yo, your energy's off. Just
to be point blank, and I agree with you. Life
has been whooping my ass lately. I'm gonna be perfectly honest.
I don't know if it's going from now. I'm gonna
tell you what it is. I think the transition from
(01:30):
going from one kid to two is a lot, right double,
it's the.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Double, right, the transition of being now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I've been forty four a couple of months now, so
like that's a whole different mental.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Whatever you want. Forty four, No, I'm forty this whole time.
I never knew. I was like, bro, we skipped a
couple of years. I was like you forty, I'm tripping alright.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Ah, No, you know my birthday was in Man turned forty.
It's a lot ofthday.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
See this is what you guys don't know about it.
Head forgets everything.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Don't remember your birthday. What we do. We were in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I barely saw you for my birthday because you went
to Okay, you went to Vegas, and I think we
saw it just for like ten minutes. I saw you
at to test the charging stations. On the way out,
Uncle pulled up to I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that was your birthday.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So I'm saying that to say it's like different life
moments are happening right now for me, man, And to
be honest, I feel like I'm stuck, stuck at what
just not advancing the way I kind of envisioned life,
you know what I mean? And and yes, and for
all practical purposes, I'm successful. I'm happy. There's a lot
(02:51):
of things that that I got going on for myself.
You know what I'm saying, still got I still got
my job. You know what I'm saying. I'm blessed. You know,
I got a beautiful wife, a beautiful support of family.
But for me, I think my own expectations kind of
get getting my own way. And when you were talking
to me about like the energy being off, and I'm like,
damn you right, something something has to give. And me, naturally,
(03:14):
I'm the type of person where I'm always gonna figure
it out. You've known me for fifteen plus years, you know,
I've seen me through some traumatic experiences. I'm always figured
figure it out. But for whatever reason, this last year
and some change, ish like I just haven't been able to.
(03:38):
I don't know if it's an answer or I honestly,
and I told you this, I don't know what it is.
I'm just still trying to figure it out. But it's
been messing with me more than any other situation has.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
When and I can't.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I can't answer with you when you don't, when you can't,
when you haven't solved a problem. So trying to figure
it out, just trying to figure it out, yeah, Lord,
And I think the biggest thing is the like clarity
for me because I think one of the things you
asked me and shout outs to pp Man Pep Happy.
He had a conversation off air as well. He's like, man,
what do you want? And for me not being able
(04:13):
to answer that or had that clear definition where before
I always knew, It's like, damn, I can relate to that.
It's hard, you know what I'm saying. It just just
being transparent. It's something I'm I'm living through right now.
I'm going through it as we speak. I don't have
the answer that I'm not here to here to say,
oh yeah, finally, I don't have it figured out. I
know the things that are going amazing for me right now,
(04:34):
and I'm grateful for that. But then there's other times
I'm just like, dude, man, you're not where you want
to be. So that's where I'm kind of been wrestling.
And in results of that, you know, I haven't been
as consistent with the podcast, and you know, when we
try to schedule guests, y'all can take I'll take the
heat for majority of it, because there's been times where
(04:55):
we've had guests lined up and for whatever reason on
my side, either I could pull up, life stuff happens
and we couldn't make the show. And I want to
apologize to the guests too that we've had booked. I
want to apologize to you. I want to apologize to
PB and more importantly the fans, the people that support
Homegrown for not showing up the way that I know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We can show up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So, and it's not just all me. I mean, there's
other things that we can factor into it, the consistency
and just whatever. But that's me taking accountability on as
why we haven't been as present, you know what I'm saying.
So for me, to the audience, to you, to everybody
anybody watch them, and I apologize, I'm gonna get through it. It's
nothing that I mean I appreciate the folks that check
(05:38):
up and probably will check up on me. It's nothing
that you need to be concerned about in that sense,
it's just grow. Sometimes you go through life and you
don't have the answers, and I get sick of people
that present that they do have the answers when you
really don't. So even if you see on my timeline,
you probably see a lot of the highlights because.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
On one end, I don't want to be.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't want to have a pity party either, Like
I don't want to just get on like, oh I
had the roughest day to day, Like it ain't about that,
it's about me trying to figure it out, but it's
it's it's tough to be perfectly honest, bro. I think
I think that's good. That's that's I mean, one, we're
being transparent with you know, the people that rock with us.
So again like that's dope. And on my end, the
(06:24):
same thing, same sentiments and all that, the same sentiments,
same sentiments as what, same sentiments as far as like yeah,
I don't want like life who everybody like? I think
some specific between twenty three just in totality, I think
the year logged off in August, and I'm serious, like
the year just.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Logged off in the year was like, yeah, I'm through.
I'm done. I'm through.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Y'all got that, y'all. Yeah, I'm cool. I see y'all
next year. Like it's like it's like it's like when
you know, how when you go to the store. I mean,
like when you go through the drive through and they
just put the thing in the window, Like my nigga,
I waited, I'm here, I waited for this. They're like, nah,
we're closed. That's how I feel like the year happened,
knowing with opportunity, with resources, with energy, with consistency, with
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just everything.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I can't speak to everybody else, but.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
For me, that's kind of what what happened with me too,
and then also me taking accountability. I'm like, I've just
been putting so much energy in so many different directions
for so long, and I'm just like, man, I'm whooped. Yeah,
I'm just well, see, the thing is, you don't give
that off a lot of people don't know that about you.
(07:33):
And I think, again, going back on my end, that's
where I feel like, damn, when you you you exert
this energy right and it looks like you don't have
no problems it do.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It comes across that way. Sometimes it seems like you
haven't figured out really absolutely okay.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Even so when we like when we when we had
that conversation, it was like, yo, why don't you do this?
Why don't you do it? I'm like, damn, you're right
that that's true. My brain just don't operate that way.
You're like, yeah, because when I you know, when this
happened to me, this is what I did, it's like,
oh damn, well damn, how come my brain ain't working
like that?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So it's like it becomes it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I then at that point start to compare and what
you should never really do, but you also want to.
I think that's that's the beautiful part about partnerships and
people holding you accountable and like you you know you
iron sharpers aren't iron. But sometimes it's like when you
feel like you're not holding up your part of the deal,
it's like, oh, damn, something's wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So to hear you say that, oh, you're going through
light stuff as well, it makes me feel like, okay,
well damn, I'm not alone. I didn't throw I didn't
know that. I gave off that I got to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Bro. You you seem like you got to figure it out?
Is that do I feel like I do? It seem
like a for real Okay, So I'm not tripping up?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay, So all right, all right, I thought I was
thought I wasself. I'm like, okay, something gotta be wrong
with me, cause he must. He must got the memo.
I didn't get the memo, all right, So for me,
you got the test. I've been going, this is what
I've been dealing with. I'm dealing with uncertainty. I'm dealing
with DJ head is uncertain a. Yeah, I've been dealing
with about what fogginess and hell shit, I wouldn't have
(09:11):
had a heart monitor I was on.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I had that was scared we put that in the
group chat.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I was like, God, damn, bro, so I have like
cardiac or not cardiac. I have a It's some word
that don't have no vowels in it that the white
people said.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You know, the word looked like medicine. You're like, that
ain't good. Yeah, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Whenever you listen, whenever you go to the doctor and
they say a word, they don't have no vowels in it,
and it just looked like a gang of word symbols
and hieroglyphics.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It ain't good. It ain't. So I'm laying there. I
go to the cardiac well.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
First of all, I start having heart palpitations, which is
why I start getting on that this doctor saving ship
and stop being meeting all that. People keep telling me,
I see my mom, I just see my I went
to go went out to my mom's like.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
This last week. She's like, you keep losing weight even
like you just now.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I don't even feel like I lost no weight, but
everybody like that you lost weight. You look like I don't.
I can't tell long story short. I was having these
like random heart flutters. They call it palpitations medical term, right,
paliptations is like if you ever experienced this, it'd be
like a random like offbeat, like a misfire and the
engine and your heart just like real fast, or it'll
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be like off or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You can't really feel your heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Like because it's something it's something that just happens naturally,
but you know when it missfire because it triggers anxiety.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And so I was having those every day.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So I start going to the doctor and getting checked
out and stuff like that, and they hooked me up
to all kinds. We'll put the picture, but they hooked
up to me, hooked me up to these machines. I
had a heart monitor on for you for a while.
I wanted to throw. I wanted to throw one jab
and in the group chat, I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I look like Wolverine.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Nah, you look like fifty in the club. In the club,
but fat fit with fat fit super Bowl fits. I
look like all the like super Bowl trying to try
to do the upside down set up.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And yeah, I was like, I'm gonna let him live though, man.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, So I had to go through that, and then
just for them, I went through like it was like
a three month process of going into cardiologist and getting
my heart checked out and stuff like that, all for
them to tell me, yeah, it's nothing wrong with you,
like you just got to relax and not hell, no,
something wrong, And I'm like, something wrong. I'm like, I
don't like that answer. I mean when I tell you
(11:28):
I did everything. They took blood. I did a heart monitor,
a take home monitor, a monitor in there. I did
an ultrasound. I'm not even lying to you. I laid
on the table and why and the dude wrapped the
jelly on my Yeah, he rubbed the jelly on my
titty and he was moving it around.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They didn't rub it on the titty, by the way.
So so and he was.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Moving around, and I'm watching my heart beat on the
screen like it's an infant, right, And I was like,
what's that hair? I was like, it was like this
weird like hair inside inside my heart.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I said, what's that?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He's like, that's your vowels, that's your heart vowels. I'm like,
you see it's opening and closing opening. I don't know where, Yeah,
I don't know where he was from. But wherever he from,
they make Volkswagens.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You stupid got such a multi layer joke. That was good.
That was so multi layer. Niggas that watched this ain't
gonna catch that. But anyway, Uh go do your research
on Volkswagens and Adidas.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So anyway, so anyway, I'm so witty, uh continuous.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So anyway, I was watching my heart pala Potate and
the vows and stuff. Anyways, Palpatate, by the way, Potate, no,
you said you're putting an extra L on that bitch.
It's not palo potate, it's palate. No, you said pala potate.
No's the you're saying pala potato. That's a that's an a.
You're you're saying that. No, run to take oh please,
(13:08):
people run to take back anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I let you.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I let you cook for like the first three of them.
That bro, you can't you can't be a witty You
can't be this witty and not know how to say
pal patato.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So you didn't know a lot of shit?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right on? It spelled permeating. I'm not gonna do that anyway.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So I started getting checked out and I was going
through it trying to figure it out, and I just
couldn't figure it out, and I was having light anxiety
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I started taking gummies weed gummies. Oh wow, I started wait,
didn't you okay? You you brought up a good point.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I forgot about this because there was a there was
a picture that I saw of you at the Usha village, right,
and we never talked about this.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh me smoking. You smoked for the very first time,
and we never talked about this. We never talked about it.
So we're gonna hold on.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Let's you do all this and to realize that nothing
is wrong. They say nothing, And what's crazy is I
told you process I went through to find a black
female doctor. I went, I found a doctor. She told
me the same thing. She's like, it's nothing wrong with you.
And so that's what I kind of once I once
I went to the cardiologist, lovely little white lady, little
pleasantly plump white lady. She was like, she was really
(14:26):
really nice to me, and she was like, yeah, that
like I understand what you're saying, but like, there's nothing
wrong with you. Like and I'm like, this is the
third doctor I done been too that says nothing's wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, I'm glad to hear that, but it's just I
know that has to be on your mind. Like, Yo,
what I know, what I'm feeling is real. And what's
crazy is the less I think, the less I think
something is wrong me, the less palpitations I have, the
less anxiety I have. It's like, so to go back
to what we were saying, my brain is fucked up,
(15:00):
my hypochondria, Oh, like I'm scared of the bacteria.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
What okay, Yeah, so I don't think I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think something is always wrong with me, but I
think I've just been going through this transition mentally and
I don't necessarily know if like I said, I tried therapy,
I went on better Help, I tried better help, I
tried all.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I was just trying everything.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me change my diet, let me go to the doctor,
let me change being proactive, just trying to figure out
what the fuck is wrong with me, and they keep
everybody's telling me nothing is wrong with you. And so now,
just to go back to what you're saying, I really
think that it's a psychological thing that we go through.
And to your point what you're saying as far as like,
oh you dealing with this or.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Is life is just lifing?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I think life is just life and for everybody, and
it's showing up physically in my body, and then you
might show up as mental blockade right for me and
my show like for It's two ways. I went to
this lady who does Shout Out the Jaz when she
took me to she took me to this lady who
does Fascia. I've been doing some whole other ship. Yeah,
(16:11):
it's on the last episode of homegoom radio. Uh, you
did the Yoni steam. I went listen, hold on, hold on,
And so now you're doing the what is the fashion?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I don't know. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I okay, I've been trying massages with the the scraper
they used just like this scraper. So I tried that
and that's different than that, Like when that's different than
the regular massage.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's like metal.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The girls they get the when they get what's the
thing that when they get the body, not the hot stone,
the thing that girls do the to they do something
that they keep going because I'm thinking it's the same thing,
but maybe I'm it's not wrong. So I tried the
little metal scraper thing. I forgot what that's called, and
I went to this lady who does fascia. Fascia is
(16:58):
a thin layer of membrane in between your skin and
your bones, almost like cartilage and your leed right. And
what it is is when you have like stress, not
like I had this big knot at the top of
my spine and it was causing issues.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And what that's caused is stress.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like you know how people are like, oh, people hold
their stress in different places, might be in your stomach
might be in your back. All my stress is in
my back and my upper shoulders. You gotta hump back
just all your stress like ad. So, so I got
we always talk about this, So I got this. I
hold all of my stress in my upper back area.
(17:37):
So I went to the fashion lady and she kind
she kind of broke it down in layman's terms. So
imagine you have two T shirts on. The undershirt is
the fascia, and you know how the undershirt might bunch
up under the top shirt. She smooths that out. So
so you're so smooth, So your skin, so your your muscles,
and your skin is smooth and lays flat really as
(18:00):
opposed to being bunch stuff under the undershirt. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. So long story short. I go
sit with her. She does she's working on me. Mind you,
she barely touches, not a massage. She's just working your skin,
smoothing out your fashion underneath your skin. Right, some different
this some different, she's weird.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Does it feel like a massage?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Though it feels like a massage, but she's barely like
touching you. Really, Yes, it's like some weird weird stuff.
Does it weird ass white lady from from Canada because
she don't even live here.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So I go meet with her.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
She's working on me and as I'm laying there, this
is where it all, this is, this is we're gonna
make a left and it's Finn go there. So I'm
laying there and she's working on my neck, and as
she's working on my neck, I just fall asleep. I'm
talking about I'm going fastively, I'm talking about within five minutes.
(18:55):
I'm out right, I don't know. Let me let me
ask you. One question, was the sence say she didn't
feeling like a massage in the sense, oh this feels good,
or you just kind of like, I don't feel it's
because then sometimes when you get a massage, you're like, okay,
you need to rub a little harder, or it's like
you know, you know, you need to do a little
bit more. You're saying, she's barely doing anything to you.
Are you feeling the sensation I just feels like a massage,
(19:18):
but it's not. Does it feel good? Yeah, it's it's soothing. Okay,
So I'm sleep, you're sleeping, okay. As I wake up,
I'm thinking I'm out ten minutes, like because I'm like
I'm just looking around or whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm sleep for an hour. Get at it. She's been
working on me for ninety minutes.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
As we leaving, I'm talking like because this is Jazmonin's friend,
She's like, she's like, so, how was it for you?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I'm like that was different. Like She's like, you feel different.
I'm like yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
She was like yeah, I could see the hump and
everything gone, like the way down in your back, in
your neck, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, I feel weird. I feel different.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
She was like, I want to tell you something that
I didn't tell you about this lady. I'm like, what
you mean she tells me. She's like, well, she's not.
She she's kind of like gifted a little bit. And
I didn't want to tell you because I knew you
would the can you damn right, I wouldn't have came
any why'd you tell me this at the beginning you're.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Talking about it.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
She's like, well, she kind of like has like senses
that she taps into when she touches people.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
She said, in the middle in the middle of.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
While she was working on your right, like somewhere right
here in the middle of your back. She just looks
up straight at the sky and she looks over at me.
She says, does he have a relationship with his dad?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Whoa? Whoa? How long you got lady? She's like, what's
up with? Something's up with his dad? You gotta be kidding.
You said this is a Canadian lady. Yeah, some lady
(20:58):
I just met that town. To be fair, she wasn't
in stereotype you.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No, I mean, she says, a lot of this is
caused from his dad. I don't know what's up with
his dad or what's going on, but a lot of
his stress is from his dad and he needs to
like figure that out.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So she's telling her while I'm sleep.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So she so she tells me that, and I'm like, nigga,
what First of all, why would you bring me into
some some some lord of the rings shit and hey
you need it, you know what I mean? Doctors and
they couldn't figure it out. So I'm like, all right,
I need to figure this out. So I hit my
mom because she still talked to my dad, and she's like,
(21:39):
I'll tell her what's going She's like, yeah, I've been
telling him he should talk to you and this and
that then my spiritual advisor kind of told me the
same thing in the nutshell a while back, like yeah,
you know, And then Salah's been telling me that, like, yeah,
I think a lot of your you can't sleep and
all that because you got to talk to your dad.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But what do you like?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
What do you think you have to get conversation? I
don't know, because correct me if I'm wrong. The last
time that I remember you bring it up and we
talked about it, he heard you on the radio and
reached out because of something I forgot what it was.
Wanted you to show up somewhere or whatever. That was
the last time that you guys had had a conversation. Well,
(22:19):
the reason why I didn't never talk to him is
because I felt like I would benefit from it. And
so the last time we was going to talk, I
told him the only way I would talk to him
on the radio is we talk live on the radio,
and that and the radio sign I shut that. No,
he was with it, Really he was with it. I
went to Doc and I told Doc. He said, you know,
that's a compelling idea. Never never heard that, never seen anybody.
(22:41):
Yeah you have vox pro and let me see. Yeah,
I was like, well, the reason why I didn't go
through with it is because my dad don't know me.
So he's like excited. He's like, yeah, I'm going to
radio with my son, and oh, you don't know what
this is. You don't even know this. You just heard
a thirty second talk break. You don't know what this is.
You don't know, you don't watch the podcast, you don't subscribe,
(23:04):
you could don't know what this is.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You clearly don't know what you're finna watch. So I
shut it down. That's why I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But why, Like, because you don't want my My thought
process is, why wouldn't you want him to see like okay, okay,
get caught off guard with who you thought I was
and boom, Like I didn't want to do that to
him on the radio. But again, for the people that
is transparent, like behind the scenes, you could have recorded
(23:32):
not put it out.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That's true, but I didn't. I didn't see a need
to do that. Something deeper than that, man, why not,
let's talk. I didn't want to do it. Why not
because I didn't want to embarrass him. But you're not
embarrassing him if you don't put it out.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh, well, then at that point I feel like I
wasted my time. We don't record nothing, don't put it out.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's not true. We recorded it and don't put out
There's been times we recorded something didn't put it out.
But yeah, but it doesn't happen often put it like that.
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I don't believe that. I don't want to record nothing
and don't put it out but it. But I guess
my point is you're not wasting your time if you
get something from it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I understand that, But I actually don't feel like I'm
gonna get anything from it, which is why I wanted
to do it in the radio, because I feel like
somebody else would benefit if I don't. I'm not gonna
benefit that up. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I would think. I think you would benefit from it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Clearly, if you can't sleep and you got the hump
in your back and there's membranes all to the left
and to the right, and it's from your dad and
she she getting palipitation. No, what I'm saying is that
I think you could get something from it. You may
not think so, and in turn it you know how
to control your own narrative anyway. So it's like you
can you can spin it to the point where somebody's
going to get something from it.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sold you didn't do it. I
didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So that was the last time you guys that was
Was that a conversation you guys had had, like Usa,
it was, Hey, I want to do it on the
lib in the radio. He says yes, and then you
just made a decision not to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So was it was it.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Him following up with you type of thing or was
just just communication? And that's typically how your relationship is
when I'm like yeah, I mean he'll text me on
Christmas and he'll text me like, so what did.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You get from this? Now? Like are you I need
to talk to this nigga? I want my sleep back?
What you mean? Hey? I love how the way you
connect this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's not even oh man, I need to get in
contact with Pops.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
There's a deeper mining. I just want my sleep bag.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's all I want. I don't even talk about none
of other shit. I need peace.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
If this white lady said that, that's what I need
to get my sleep back.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Sign me up.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
If I had to go to Honduras to get sleep,
sign me up. If I got to give up meat,
I love. I'm a Korean barbecue nigga. Yeah, if I
got to give up meat to get my peace, sign
me up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I'm not one of them niggas. Tell me what I
gotta do. Okay, before I want to I want to
get back to the park.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Where So what are you gonna do with Pops right
before we go there? I don't want to lose where
I was at with you smoking. You smoke for the
first time with doctor Sabe's hut and doctor Sebby's help.
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It was terrible you.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But to be honest, you've had you've hot boxed, not
by your own will, right, You've had contact high. Yeah,
you're very annoying when you've I've seen you had contact
high once. I was annoying. Yeah, you just see. That's
why don't don't give me don't don't give me no
weed dune.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, don't no.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It was that, And it was you had a sip
of like Margaretita one time or I don't know if
it was about accident anyway, So you didn't get anything
from that when you when you actually smoked it the village,
what do you they said, They said that I hit
it too hard and it burnt my esophage's up. My
whole sage is burnt up. You coughed, Yeah, I coughed,
(26:55):
but it was it was hot, but you didn't get
a sensation after that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I didn't feel any different or any any better or
any less. I just was like, bro, this is hot,
saying it. It burnt my throat up, and I said,
I'm cool. I think I hit it twice just to
make sure. I was like, you hit it to all
you gotta hit just just just in hell, don't don't.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Don't like that's funny. I remember I saw the clip
and I'm like, oh, we never talked about that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, No, I didn't like it, so we ain't for me?
All right, So back to your dad. What's the plans now?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You are you? I don't know. I ain't figured it out.
You need to slip though, Like you said, I ain't
got the answer.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So this is okay. So this is a part of
what's been going on with she was this been going
on with me? Now I ain't figured it out. I
don't have it all figured out. If I had it
all figured out, I'll be sleeping great. I don't sleep good. Well,
I mean they say you need to talk to them, Man,
talk to this nigga. What you're gonna say?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm tired. Give me some sleep, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, that's kind of what's been going on with me.
And then also I've been going through like this career
defining thing because people, like three or four people asked
me like, well, what do you want? Same thing right
with you? I'm like, damn, So it used to be
what do you want your life to look like? This
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stems back to a conversation I had with Sallas in
twenty eleven, and I think it's changed, and I think
we don't check in with ourselves to let to update
ourselves on ourselves.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That makes it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I know, I had a conversation with Salas as well.
Now it's one of the same things I came to
the conclusion with So I needed to update myself with myself.
It's like, no, before my goal was dj Am, Rob Deardack,
and Big Boy. I remember that those those are my
three people who I wanted my life to look like.
Now what I want my life to look like? Joe Rogan.
(28:44):
That's it. Then at one point you said, wasn't it
the music had more to do? What it is like
Jamie Fox? And well, no, Jamie Fox is the goal
because I want to be ambidextrious in my skill sets. Okay,
So how does that different than Joe ROGANA because what
I want?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And who?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Because Jamie Fox is the goal because no matter what
I do, I don't want it to see foreign. Jamie
Fox hare put out an album, he could host the show,
he could do a comedy stand up special, he could
do a movie, and none of it looks foreign. It's
all just oh yeah, that makes sense for Jamie Fox.
That's what I want from me anything I do. I'm
in white Man can't jump, that's oh yeah that makes sense.
(29:23):
Oh I'm you know, doing a podcast. Oh yeah, that
makes sense. Oh I'm chairman at the Boys and Girls Club.
Oh yeah, I could see that. Yeah, I can see that, exactly,
got it. I don't want anything to see foreign, but
where I'm headed is definitely more Joe Rogan, Whereas I
want to just have interesting conversations with people, and I
want to make money doing it, and I still want
(29:44):
to DJ, and I'm still doing some music shit that
I can't talk about. But I'm still dabbling into music.
But I think I think I've progressed and I understand
more or less kind of what DEVI was explaining to
me three years ago. Three years no, two years ago,
I was talking to Debbie shot to Debbie Brown and
she was like, don't be afraid to not be the
(30:06):
guy that knows everything about music.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
She's like, you're bigger than that. Let somebody else do that.
Wait said again, don't be afraid of don't be afraid to.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Be the guy that what she said, don't be afraid
to evolve beyond the music. Beyond that got you like,
don't be afraid to not know the new up and
coming so and so.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Right, that was your ideentaity, which is which is challenging
for a lot of people that don't understand.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And I think that that hits home because you know,
with the platform that we have with Homegrown, we've we've
obviously ushered in a lot of.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The you know, household names. Right.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's like when you talk a TD Kendrick Lamar, you know,
Roddy Rich, like you know, these are people that we've
seen from the start, and it's like your identity is
attached to that. It's like, all right, so who's next?
And it's like, yeah, certain part of us knows, or
we have our our finger on the post. Sometimes we don't,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
For me, I don't know if it's a your thing
or it's just something you're just not gonna get it
right all the time. And like you said, it's okay
to not have that answer. Just she said, don't be
afraid to evolve past that. And she's like, you're beyond
that now. You don't have to know who the next
up and coming person is. You don't have to know that.
Let somebody else know that and bring it to you.
(31:20):
She was like, but don't be afraid to evolve in
a person that you're supposed to be by letting go
of the person who you were. So that's what I've
been dealing with as far as like, and that's also
why I've been absent and like people just hitting me like, man,
I ain't where are you? I remember Vince Staples actually
hit me out of all people. And I don't know
(31:40):
if let me. See, I'm gonna pull up to his
message because it threw me off. Shout out to Vince.
That's my guy. Vince texts me right. He said, sorry
for Vince, but this is this shit really impacted me.
He said, what's up, black man? I said, what up?
(32:01):
He said, I'm just checking in on you ain't tapped
in a minute?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You good?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I said, I'm straight. I'm figuring it out. He said,
I feel you. It's weird out here right now. I said,
it's hello weird. I said, the fake people winning right now?
He said, they always winning. He said, where are you being?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I was like, and this is when this was
last week, damn. And I was like, man, I'm just
trying to figure it out. I just been recalibrating and whatever.
He was like, he said, you just got to carve
out your own lane. They ain't never going to do
it's damn people, they ain't never going to do right
by you.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You only the man. When you make a mockery of
yourself out here, that's lame. He said. I've been.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
He said, I've been, he said, doing everything the right way,
and they keep playing you.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
He said, don't stop fighting though.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I think that that's that kind of that's that's
a bar first of all. But then in the back
of your head, it's like, dude, how do you sometimes
how I think of like how do you progress? When
like that's something that you always say in terms of
and it's the context is a little different, but it's
like not fighting fair.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
When when you see everybody winning by not playing fair
and you're doing things as ethical as possible, you know,
as authentic as possible, and you're seeing everybody win off
the very merit of doing clowns stuff. Most of the time,
it plays it. It plays a mental It messes with
(33:31):
you mentally. I'm gonna tell you some some wild shit
over the last year. It's the first time I ever
related to girls that be insecure on Instagram really and
this is a wild correlation, but I'm explaining girls always
be on Instagram talking about how how for lack of
(33:55):
a better way to say it, holes be winning, right
hoses out here winning they getting white They're doing this
Strippers is winning because they see because the natural girl
is insecure about her body, because they see the BBL
girl getting all the attention and the likes and stuff
like that. And so the same could be said in
what we do. I see this person viral, or this
(34:18):
person getting this contract, or this person being the go
to person that's getting the big interviews, or you know,
the white girl who do the interviews even when she's
not fucking with us no more because she already got
she needed. So the white girl who's doing all the
black people and now she's doing the scarlet Johansson's and
stuff like that. Right, you see these things happen, and
(34:40):
that's this is the first time I ever thought like, oh,
that's what you that's what.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
They're going through.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
They're looking at it like, well, I need a BBL
in order to in order to be seen, or I
need to fuck somebody in the industry in order to
get a record deal, or you know for female artists,
or I need you know, to get I need lashes
in order for somebody pay attention to me. And it's like,
I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
No you don't. You just have to find your tribe. Right.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
So the way I look at it is, I like
I always say this, it's a.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Full circus out here.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I don't want to be an opening act and I
don't want tickets.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I'm cool, y'all can have a circus, y'all can have
to clickbait, y'all can have the beef's, y'all can have
all that.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't want nothing to do with it at this point.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I just don't care abouty Shout out to my dude,
Ace Cord's manager. He called me yesterday on the same
type of time. He's like, bro, it's wild out here
and I ain't finna say what he finna do. But
he's like, I'm pivoting, like they can have all this
fake stuff like whatever, whatever, And I was like, damn
same thing with DJ Moski. How the conversation with Monskie
he left the RAMS. Most people don't know that, sorry Monskie,
(35:50):
but well yeah, people do know that because the girl
is DJing over there now. But Monski left the RAMS
and he's only doing purpose work. He called right, He's like,
I'm doing purpose work moving forward. I'm like, what does
that mean.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
He's like, if it ain't purpose and it ain't pure,
I ain't doing it.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
That's period. It is what it is. And he's like,
I don't care about this. So he's he got his book.
He writes and he's doing all gospel stuff and it's like, damn.
So I'm kind of envious of those people who have
made stark pivots because it's like our identities are attached to,
like you said, hip hop, up and coming underdogs, et cetera,
(36:27):
et cetera, but then we're also not participating in the circuit.
I don't want to sit and talk to this dude,
like because he got nails in his hair, Like, do
you have something to talk about?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You know what I'm saying. If you don't have to
talk about it, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But that's not fair also because sometimes that person may
have something to talk about, you may not know until
you actually sit there.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I want to know if you have something to talk about, Yes,
let's talk, but not just because not just because you
went viral for this and academics, I don't want to
talk to you about that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I don't care about I don't give a fuck about
Rory going to academic's house. I don't care you know
what I'm saying. I don't care about I don't give
funk about none of this stuff that people be talking
about Joe yelling at somebody every week. I don't give
a fuck about that. I just don't care. So does
that automatically remove you from the culture or the conversations. No,
(37:17):
But what it does do is force you to have
to really dive into what you actually want to do. Yeah,
And that's what I've been dealing with now for real.
I mean, I think I'm I'm on the saying I'm
on the same time, I'm on the same time. It's
just forcing yourself to have some real conversations, you know
(37:38):
what I'm saying with yourself and you know, looking within
and and I think for me, it's just understanding that
you may not have an answer tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
And I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'm like, man, I gotta figure this out about Hey,
it's ever evolving thing. Like so it's the same he
was like, Man, look, your life has significantly changed since
we you know, since I pulled up the apartment in
two thousand and ten.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know what I mean. He's like, your life.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Has changed significantly since two thousand and fifteen, you know,
before you you know, after you were married, but before
you had kids. He's like, a it's a it's a
challenging thing thing to navigate. But you haven't, you said, recalibrated,
You're still you're still operating off of two thousand and
nine twenty ten goals. When you know what matter to you,
(38:26):
then doesn't necessarily matter to you. Now you know what
I mean? For me, family comes first, And I didn't
always think that way. It was a straight career. It
was like, oh, man, radio, what man? I remember having this.
I don't know if I think I told I think
me and Tasha had this conversation and after it came
(38:48):
out of my mouth pause, I was just like, yo,
what are You're gonna mess around and lose the greatest
thing that you got? And we were talking about it
was before we had kids, by the way, and we
were talking about living circumstances.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And pursuing the dream. You know, she's a personal chef.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I'm doing mediu, I'm doing radio, and I'm like, man,
I don't care if we got to live in a car,
I don't care what man. Look, I'm beyondest, Like I'm
being honest. This low key comes before you.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I'll say that all the time.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
And I said it and I meant it, but then
after I said. I was like, you don't really mean that,
Like in that moment, I did. But as time goes by,
I'm like, dude, all and I've been through this many times.
I've been through many radio stations. I've had different opportunities.
I've seen how people shift when you lose an opportunity.
(39:42):
Shouts so big Onie to Walla Sharp. He used to
be the program director at one hundred point through the Beat.
He was the one that was responsible for getting me
on on radio for the very first time in LA
and he was like, man, it's crazy how people only
envy that seat.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
They don't care who's sitting in that seat.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
They value the seat so it can be me today,
it could be him tomorrow, it could be heard the
next day. It could be that other person in the
year from there, a year from now or whatever. He's like,
but they it's not me. They just care about that opportunity.
It's the same thing with you in that mic. He's like, unfortunately,
that's just how it goes. They care about you right now,
you know what I mean. But when all this is gone,
(40:20):
you don't have the opportunities, who's gonna be the ones
that's around. Who's the one that's checking up on you,
who's tapping in with you. Who's the ones that's really
there for you in those moments when you don't have
anything to give or you don't have the microphone.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But I was like, oh damn, that's it.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
So I've always cared that in the back of my mind,
and so when I said that in real time, although
I meant it, it was like a check for me.
I'm like, Yo, when when I got my duy, who's
the one driving me to the station for six months,
for eight months until I got my license back, Who's
the one that's taking me to AA when I had
to the sponsor to get my license back.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Who's the one that was you know, who was there
for me?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
When when I got arrested they were about to impound
my car, know who pulled up and made sure that
they impound my car because Oh, I'm just right down
the street Pastasha. It's like, oh damn, okay, So you
got to check yourself, bro, Like, she's the one that's
gonna She's gonna be there through think and thin. Your
family's gonna be there through thinking thin my family. I
got a strong support system right when when I was
(41:25):
going through some of my lowest times. It's like they
were there, you know what I mean, You guys, you
And that's why when I tell you, when I tell
Salace and Sparkle and just our collective homegrown tribe right
in the group chat as well, I don't want to
disappoint y'all, you know what I mean. I think that's
why a lot of those conversations hit home because it's like, yo,
(41:48):
you you got to make an attempt and in an
effort not only for yourself, but for the people that
are around you that actually do give a fuck, you
know what I'm saying. So again I had to. Now
I'm going through the recalibrating process. It's like, now my
purpose is for my kids, my sons chasing Charles right,
and it's like, Okay, I want to make sure that
(42:10):
they see, you know, somebody that's gonna give it their all,
somebody's gonna give them their time and not choose work
over them. And that's a big thing for me, and
that hits home because I grew up with a mother
who sacrificed her dreams to make sure that we were good.
(42:31):
But then she had to work so hard that she
couldn't be there. So I was a latch key kid,
you know, divorced home. So it's like all of these
things I'm getting hit. I'm just having these realizations as
an adult, as a father, and realizing on what's really important.
Do I care about my career. Absolutely, Am I gonna
go hard on it. Absolutely, I'm gonna do what I
(42:51):
gotta do. But the things that matter to me in
terms of like going hard and absolutely giving no FS
about five years ago has completely changed on what that was.
So it's you know, it's just again I'm rambling, but
I'm saying this is all happening in real time. Well
I had to answer tomorrow, probably not if I do great,
(43:13):
But it's just one of those growing processes. And I
think it's important that we have these conversations so people
know it's not we're more than just talking points, were
more than just topics. We're more than just the interviews
that we bring people and have these conversations on on
with people.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It's like the depth that we have with these people
as well.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
So it's like I kind of wanted to lay that
foundation out for people because you know, I know it's
been a while since we jumped on here. We may
not be as consistent as we should be. And that's
something that I said, I'm gonna take accountability on in
terms of, like, yo, let's get back on it. But
at the end of the day, we're real people, man,
We go through real stuff. And it feels good to
kind of hear low kid. It feels good to hear
(43:53):
that you've been going through it. Not in a selfish way,
because it's like, yo, okay, I'm not tripping in like
everybody's going through this shit, everybody. I called Tiffany one day,
shout to just rock. She's a photographer.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
She documented the culture.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I told her that the other day on Twitter man
saluter or ig or whatever it was, she posted something
I said, Man, I just love how you document our culture.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Man, So shouts out to Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I was talking to her on the phone and because
we you know, we love white humor, like we have
really inappropriate jokes, like extremely inappropriate jokes but I can
never repeat, but we love Jerry Seinfeld and she was like, yo,
Jerry's going to be in Vacas again in a couple months,
let's go. And I'm like, bro, like, I'm literally unemployed
and you don't have like, you don't got it, Like that,
(44:41):
what you mean Jerry Seinfeld tickets expensive, That's the whole thing.
She was like, let's you go fuck it. I'm like,
I'm like, what do you mean? She's like credit card.
I'm like, you can't just be putting stuff on a
credit card. She looked at me with the most serious
face and she said, what are you talking about? How
do you think everyone is living right now? And I
(45:03):
was like, what you mean? She was like, nobody has money?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I was like what. She was like, where have you been?
She's like, the economy's in the toilet. She's like Joe
Biden is sleep at the week. She's like, nobody has
fucking money. Everybody's broke. Everybody talk to your friends. She's like,
just talk to people. Everybody's surviving on credit right now.
(45:32):
And I was like, I was blown because I thought
it was just me. She was like, it's not just you, fool.
She's like, everybody doesn't have any money, everybody, It's not
just you. So what that did was made me start
talking to people, and damn she was right, yeah, like
(45:53):
everything everybody's going through it. It's not just you, me, him, her,
Everybody's going through it, and so what that did, like
you said, brings you comforts Like, Okay, I'm not tripping,
but I do got to figure it out absolutely, But
at the same time, I'm not tripping, like I think
that's the first thing you think, like, am I tripped?
(46:14):
Like no, you see because you see like obviously you
look at you look online or whatever. I lie and
it just be like like even when I ain't gonna
put the hommy out there, but he be like this
will be the votes planes and I know his situation
in real life credit and no he ain't got no
credit damn.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
So that makes it worse. Like wait, how I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
About like like like like like like like.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
I'm talking was that a palipitation? Now?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Like I'm trying to like I'm talking about Eric Garcetti
is helping him? Okay, got you you know what I'm saying.
And I'm just like, and he on vacations and I'm
just like, what the fuck is going on? What are
I'm not tripping about people living their life. What I'll
be tripping about is how are you living life comfortable?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Damn I'm not comfortable and I can't function properly when
I'm not when I'm not right. So it's like, how
are you just laid up this chilling ocean views and
you know it's some bullshit at the house, man, you
got to come back and low key make sure like
you you duck in the repo man like it's ugly
(47:30):
and you just like and everybody's like, fuck it.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I don't know how to live.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Fucking I don't know some people. I mean literally that
ignorance is bliss. It really is for some people. I
don't know how to live. Like fuck it, I don't
know how to live like that. But just because you
don't know how to do it, does it mean to
other people know how?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
No? No, no.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
What I'm saying is I'm one shocked, in appalled and
too envious.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I wish I could be oblivious. It's like, hell, you
do that? How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
How do you just be cool uncomfortable like that? I
don't know how to do that, So I be stressed. Actually,
I was talking to a friend of mine last week
and she said, this is literally the first time I
have known you forever, and this is the first time
I ever heard you say that you were stressed.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
I was like, I guess so I ain't never said that.
I don't know, but I'm like, I'm stressed and like
everybody's just chit and I was talking to talking about this,
this is two days ago. I'm like, it's crazy that
people are literally at the club right and the whole
club is burning The club is burning down hip hop.
(48:38):
It's gonna be terrible in the next two years because
as you know from radio, this is a lesson for
you people who don't know anything about radio. We have
what's called recurrence, and the recurrens are filler songs in
between the most popular songs and the old school songs.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Those are called recurrens.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
There aren't gonna be any recurrence because there aren't any
current hits. We aren't making hit records, So then how
do you then play old hit records over the next
couple of years. So you're Finnah start hearing Taylor Swift
on your favorite stations, and because they only wants making
the big records at this point, then media is in toilet.
Media is a dumpster fire right now. If you not
(49:12):
click baiting or talking talking trash, this person or the
Tasha Ka lady.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Is getting sued again. By who is son? R Kelly?
Oh damn she oh CARDI be all in millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Still talking now R Kelly finish sewer he finna win
from jail.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
That's which is wild. What are you like? I don't
understand what's going on?
Speaker 1 (49:36):
And then you got Adam asked asked the young boy
about a crime on camera, and he did. He was
supposed to salute to the young homie from from the neighborhood.
He was I love that he's stone. He was just
looking at him, like, what do you you think I'm
really going to answer that. You see, they just got
Keith E. D So I'm just like, bro, what So Literally,
(49:58):
what I'm saying is the house is burning.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
And niggas in the kitchen making sandwiches. I'm just mere like,
what are you? What the fuck is going? I don't
know how to be comfortable in that. So That's what
I've been dealing with in a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I mean no, it's yeah, it's a lot man. And
again again the purpose of this was we ain't got
the answers.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
We really don't. I don't got this. It's Sway.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Sway shouts out to Sweat, call me that maybe Sway
got the answers for this. Maybe Swey you got the answers.
Let us know. I do know this, and I'll weaken
and I'll leave you with this. When I was talking
to my spiritual advisor, she gave me a bar. Actually
gonna read it. She gave me a bar, and I
wrote it down because I'm putting in my book. I'm
gonna give it to y'all for free right now. What
(50:46):
I happened to buy my book? Oh, thank you so much.
She said, when you're waiting on the Lord, it's not waiting,
and in time, it's waiting as in service, she said,
whenever you're whenever you're waiting, She's like, don't wait as
(51:08):
in time, wait as in serf. That's when you don't
know what to do, spend your time serving. Got it
being in service to other people, service in your community,
volunteering when you don't know what to do, serve, serve.
And what that does is it read. It circulates the
(51:28):
energy and allows you to be led in whatever direction
you're supposed to be led, and if you're a spiritual person.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
But that was a bar to me. That was like, oh, because.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Low key a friend of mine Aliah told me that
the week before I went to go see her. She
was like, Yeah, when I don't know what to do
and I'm lost, Like I'm lost right now, She's like,
when I'm lost, like I don't have I don't have money,
I don't have this or whatever whenever I whatever's going
on in my life, She's like, I just volunteer, and
I just like, I go like help old people clean
their houses, or I'll you know, go to the to
(52:01):
the to the downtown, to the center, or I go
to wats and help the youth. And she's like and
then everything gets clearer for me. And I was like, damn,
maybe need to give so man, No, that's that's a
good point. That's a good point to end on and
just something to reflect on. Man again, audience, we apologize,
(52:21):
but hey, we're here now and we're not gonna harbor
on the past. Well again, we'll let you know in
real time what's going on, you know what I mean, like,
because you're gonna witness it either way. So part of
the consistency is you're gonna see You're gonna see every uh,
every aspect of it. So uh, but thank you for
holding us accountable. The audience, thank you for holding this accountable,
p B, because people was like, look, bro, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
What's going on? We can we can do an episode,
but we need to talk. He said.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Look, I set the cameras up, but hold up, hold up,
we gotta talk. All right, Yeah, we're saying. We can
count the words Ping said in the last two years,
and he for sure he's eighty percent of more today.
Eighty percent of them was to day stood on business.
So salute the PB man. It's homegrown man. We'll catch
y'all next time. All right, Chuck Dizzle DJ head live
from the Five Factory Studios. Subscribe, comment all that good stuff.
(53:11):
We'll catch y'all next time.
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