February 7, 2024 • 47 mins
Jonica Booth Talks RAP SH!T, Bad Girls Club & Dating Straight Women
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, we're back added Homegrown the podcast. Man got
a great conversation. None lessons we always do. I Chuck
Dizzle Yes live from the Fab Factory Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Shot the Fab Factory. Shout to our family.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
We appreciate everybody that's liking, subscribing, comment and and getting
involved in these conversations. Absolutely had an amazing conversation last
episode last week, a couple of transparent ones. A lot
of transparent conversations being had. Uh, and appreciate everybody accepting
the vulnerability that comes along with my teeth for still cricket.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So we're doing Are we doing a shot by shot
every week? Now? We don't do monthly?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Okay, so next month we're gonna check in this.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I just wanted to say that because in the comments
I was getting you, you posted what's the name of
the episode?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Tooth be told? That was fed up? What you mean?
He tided episode to introduced our guests.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We got an actress and the star of HBO's rap ship, Johonica,
both up in here.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Man. Okay, Blue, what that's right?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You got a nice teeth. You don't to be told?
That's what he named the episode, because my teeth fucked up.
You know what I'm saying, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Me, you would have want that brought attention to it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Look, we've been doing the show for some of the years,
and last episode he's gonna talk about man after all
this time, he wants to switch seats because he's like,
I'm insecure about the way my tooths. I told him
the truth as a real homie, Like, hey, brons, I
said it on camera.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I was being vulnerable. That's why you can't share your vulnerabilities.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
They have characters.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
They're fucked up and and the thing is and the
thing is right. I'm not tripping because like it don't stop,
no motion. I like that though, But at the same time,
it's like, all right, I'm doing my part. When I
got them visil Line Trade, I got in my pocket, right,
So I got them visitl Line trays. I'm doing my part.
He gonna tie to the episode Tooth be Told and
got and got the pictures.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's crazy that.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
You thought that was your boy.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know we all twenty years now, don't do. He's
one for always trying to split up a happy home.
I've been married for with ten years and every every episode,
every way he tries to have some foot. So you're
gonna let your your wife do that? How would you
do if you're what we.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Call I like to call his wife on the air, Yeah,
and ask her questions? Yeah, you know, depending on how
the conversation goes. So, you know, like her celebrity get
to the stores, go straight to the store.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Don't don't do don't do that, don't do nah, don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
See all to the point that you should you should
not be surprised that I named the tooth be told, okay,
because the thing is I got I got. I gotta
fire first sometimes because I'll get the jokes later on.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I want to swing first.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I want you gotta do it because I'm gonna get
hit anyway. You know what I'm saying. Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So I want to start to solve bye by talking
about your pursuit to Hollywood. Right, Obviously people know that
the Bad Girls Club that that start.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Ten with ten twelve years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I was twenty five. Yeah, that's about ten years.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Ago starting off with that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
How was the pursuit of like coming to Hollywood and
now that you're here, now that you've arrived, right, is
it different from what you expected?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Where you from I'm from Saint Louis. Okay, Okay, go.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Ahead, sorry, So those Saint Louis days, right, and the
pursuit of wanting to do, you know, getting to the
entertainment business is it has it changed from what it
actually is from from when you first started and thinking
about wanting to be in Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Absolutely, Like you know, I don't know if y'all never
been in the mid West Saint Louis. Yeah, it's like
you don't. We don't have this type of stuff. So
I'm thinking I want to drive down sun set palm
trees when I get out here, I just want to
go home, Like where where I'm gonna get home? Because
it's not it's like I've been here long enough to
now I'm settled in, you know, but it is exciting,
it's inspiring to be here.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So when you so, you but Saint Louis is a
good I like Saint Louis.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I love that's home, you know what I'm saying. I
like it. It's a little it has character.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It has it's like your teeth, see what, Yeah, that's
in fact, and I remember going to a place.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know this is not in Missouri, but it's a
place called East sat right, that is not Saint Louis.
But yes, I know it's East Saint but and it's
a completely separate thing across the bridge.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
The bridge that's where.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And I know, I bet you I went over there,
dirty man. It has character, that's what we got. Care
like there is it still like that? Like where because
I went ten years ago and there was no public works,
they were like, we don't have like mail and like just.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Public services and stuff like trash. Yeah, it's very like.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's okay, it's different, we're gonna talk about it different.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But so is it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But the originally realized that just because when I went
to because I'm ignorant, so when I went to Saint Louis,
they were like, we can go to East Sints. So
I think it's the same thing. And I noticed that
when people come to LA they look at it the same. Ship.
They go to Holly like you said, I'm going to
out Sunset, and then they go to like Roscos, right,
and they be like this same what it looked like
on TV.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's not a like comped and Lamert Like when I
be out that way, Lamert is actually beautiful.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
They got us it's scary, you know. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Twist nine and be riding down Watts and in them
areas and all that. But it's always that type of
area in every place East Saint Is East saying you
know you go over there.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I haven't been over there in years because because it's
one way way out, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So it's like, why why even risks?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know anything when you come when you do come
to l Like, what's something that's mandatory? Like obviously you travel,
you have to go to Miami, back home whatever?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Actually live here?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Now you're here. No, that's what I'm saying. You you've
been here, but I say you ten toes in now.
You know what I'm saying. You don't go back home
at all.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I'm actually gonna go and visit my grandmother. But no,
I try to fly everybody to me. I try to say,
let's do so she got money.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That's fine. I'm trying to keep it cute. I see
you when I see you, I go out there.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Now, I will go like I win. I probably go
once a year, you know, but I go now. I
don't go and do what I used to do. I
go and sit in the house, I be with family
because Saint Louis it's top five dangerous. Don't get it twisted,
you know. And when they think you got something that
you know, so it's like, let me just stay out
the way.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
But that's my city.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I love when you go.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
When you do, do you notice the reception because I
notice when people make pivots in their life, right, because
when you go, when you ascend, when you were sind
in your life, you start getting extra relatives to come around,
to get an extra cousin that need a car, you
get an extra like uh, like, what's the what's the
wildest request that you've gotten since you've been on television?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Honestly, my family not even like no ya, my people salid.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
But what the wildest request that I get is when
I when I used to host after this wasn't even
this wasn't even from from rap shit.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
This is from BGC.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I go in and host the club and somebody and
I hug a fan and they'll start rapping or singing
in my ear to let me know that they do music,
and I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Like, I know I.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Can't do that, dear reality.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I don't even have nothing for y'all. Why y'all think
I can help you? So that that be crazy to me.
But the craziest request.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
My mom, She the worst, one word, what what? I'm
sitting over here with a Apple Watch because I didn't
bought her a Rolex for her birthday. Me and my
sister we got a Rolex for her birthday. And she
tells me, I don't even want this Apple Watching no more, damn,
and I throw it away. So she ended up giving
it to me. But I don't even have a role,
(07:13):
you know, But it's herd. But she the reason that
I'm my parents. I'm trying to aim to get them.
I just want to when I make them happy, kind
of let me know I'm fulfilled.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know, it's funny that you mentioned your parents. I
think I heard you mentioned that your dad was the
reason why you you're just not a faithful person.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Absolutely, you're a.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Cheating because of that.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know that that was younger men, and what we're
not going to do we talk about the old because
I've changed transition.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm glad you said that, right.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So do you think we heard we hear the phrase
all the time, Once a cheater, always a cheater.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
No, that's cat, that's cap. That's absolutely you can't do that.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
You can't once nothing is always nothing, you know, in
my opinion, you can't. We can all change, you know.
If I feel we could all change, let me.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Ask you this.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, So based on that, because I did want to ask,
I talk about that too, because I am not necessarily
a believer in traditional structures of things. I'm I'm against
the grain type person. Right, he ain't trying to get married,
he ain't trying to add I will give okay, So
look me explain to you real quick. I look at
marriage and monogamy like some bullshit. Now I look at
(08:22):
me explaining. I look at it like avocado toast. This
is comparison here right here we go. Avocado marriage is
just like avocado toast. It's some bullshit that white people
made up. It's not real. But I probably tried.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
One day avocado one day, I tell it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
But it's some bullshit though, Like it's not a meal.
Avocado avocado toast is not a meal, bro, it's not
a meal, Bron, don't cook it for me, Like give
me some other ship too, But I'll eat that. And
it's like the bread before, the before the food comes.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's it's not the meal, it's facts. So I'm just
saying it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So what are your thoughts because we have he's been
married for higher how long, but he used to be
an animal in the just respect my ten years outside
in the dorms, we're not you're not talking about that.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Doing that,
that's what we never do.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
That's what he did. He got it out the way
out of That's what you're supposed to do. Get out the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Way on Instagram and ship.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, so I get it. That's cute.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But what I'm saying is from your perspective, I challenged
the I challenged the infrastructure that we know as such
a traditional relationship.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Do you have those thoughts in the new you? Do
you think that?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
First, let me make it clear, I wasn't I cheated. Second,
always I got cheated.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
On first, so you're retaliation.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Second, I wouldn't. I ain't never really go first like that,
you know what I'm saying. And then my cheating wasn't
as bad. It'll be like, you know, you might cheat
and have sex with somebody and then I'm a cheating
make somebody fall in love and we in Now we
got feelings.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Now it's different, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's kind of crazy emotion. It's deeper though, it's.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Deeper, you know what I'm saying. So it hurt a
little worse. My chip probably hurt a little worse because
now it's emotional tized.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But it's always a response. It's not like that, And.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That's how it's been since I was young.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I've never just been like, no, they painted a picture
of me, but I wasn't really tripping off the picture tripping.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know, I don't care rumors like I ain't doing
all that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I get you.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
But as far as marriage, I honestly, i'm thirty five,
thirty six. I can't really I don't see it for me.
But how can I see that when I'm not in
a I'm not in a committed relationship, you know what
I'm saying. But I have been in situations.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Where it'd be like, okay, I can see the possible.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I see it this, you know, until I can't which together.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Longest relationship what it's a longest relationship in earth?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yes, in earth years? I want you to get I
would say, I want to go first, go ahead, go ahead. Sorry,
Now I would say four years, I'm gonna go three
two and a half.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
And I am so, I'm just I'm six months.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
See, I'm a year because you know what, I'm gonna
tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why you just
you just painted this whole. I'm old, I'm transitioning. I'm
changed from that. And initially I was gonna say, you know,
probably less than a year. But after I heard you say,
I said, I'm gonna give it some grace and give
them some years.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Why would I Why do I need to know four
years that it's not gonna work. That's my thing.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
So people, your relationship, I don't, it don't work for
me because I'm thinking that's a long There's not much
time you waste.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know, It's it's not about wasting time. It's about
people evolved. You change every every they say the human
changes every seven years. People, I'm like, right, people change
or you can use you can use any term, right.
We all constantly change and evolved. So the person that
you meet in the beginning may not be the same
person in two or three years, you know what I'm saying.
So you have to give time for somebody to kind
(11:52):
of evolve and change and kind of see if that's
something for you.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, I think so, you're right, but no, you're right,
but for me, for you two months, I can tell
if this go, if I want to.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Be around you like that or not.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I'm not get on the ninety days yahety days. We'll
see what I do. Okay, let me ask you this.
How does a first he got a subscription? Right? Yes,
you can exactly. I feel like marriage should work like that.
I can choose to re up or choose to walk away.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And I believe in audits me too. I believe in
I fucked with her because of what the thing is.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I believe that we should interact with humans on a
least basis, right with the least, with the option to
buy at the end of the termine the least you
feel me. So if I want to fuck with you
for thirty two months, I fuck with you for thirty
two months, and then I get the opt out of
the least and walk away free and clear. Not and
don't get Jeff Bezos. You know what I'm saying. But
as opposed to.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
No, no, here's the thing, because because you don't have
you can opt out whenever you want to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And my thing is, when I'm in a situation, we
know if this's going well or not. Like I know
if this is gonna be anything more if it's not.
So it's like, why even I don't even want to
waste your time.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Have you ever been in a situation where you're like, Okay,
this could be something and maybe the other person didn't
see it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
He asked me if you ever got dumped? Well, no,
I'm not asking if you ever got dumped.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
But it's like, it seems like it's always on your terms,
right has it ever been?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Everybody keep telling me, the current people that i've the
people that I've dated this year, the ongoing thing is
everything on your turn exactly. I'm like, no, I don't
feel that way.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You don't feel that way.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I accept it, You should should accept it, and.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's your life and if that's what it is, you
just you recognizing that. And then I told him, I said, look,
it's gonna take somebody that understands you all the way
around to be down with the type of person that
you are. Don't pay this facide a picture of somebody
that you're not just hey, you're just gonna accept me
for me if it's gonna be on my times, gonna
be on my arms.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And I kind of feel the same way, and there's
nothing wrong with that. But it's like, nah, it's it's
that is you No.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
But listen, I actually I can see myself. I don't
see marriage, but I be seeing myself having a ceremony.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I think I just want to party where.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I'm you want it because you see, I see my
family that walking in, I see me and somebody I respect.
A face ain't clear, the gender ain't clear. I don't
know walking in, we dancing and I'm cute and we
it's a moment. So and I'm a lover.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I'm a party. I'm a lover. So I do believe
in relationship. And I don't get it twisted. I wasn't
in it.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I haven't been in a relationship for six longer than
six months consecutives, gotcha. I've been on it off to
somebody for like I was. I was on it off
of somebody for like two and a half years. And
they play me.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
So it's like and I just before TV, No, this
was like this was like this is this just this.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Was something in the last year or something.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah. And it was a girl and I had been
with her and I'm talking about what's rocking and and
in and out rocking, and pretty much she'll she'll tell
she can't say nothing bad about me.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
She won't.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
She just say Jonaicab, you know they call me Blue.
She was like Blue pretty much saved me. She got
me out of my shell. She she got I got
her to be a strong and you know, she was
going through abuse and all that, so you know what
she claimed to be from a narcissist and all that,
A rich dude, and I kind of built that confidence
back up.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Then she started messing with my homeboy.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Wow, so you.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
So other than that, I didn't do nothing. I was committed,
you get what I'm saying. And I didn't know and
and she started messing with him with her, and I
was we weren't even on that type of time because
I told her, I said, you spent the last eight
years of your life in and out of a relationship.
You went't from dude to me and you get what
I'm saying. I was like, you need to be single.
You want to say, nobody that haven't been outside, like
when people be like yo, I've been like you ain't
(15:54):
for me, go get dirty, scratch your kneeslesp I feel
the same way. So that's what it was. I was like, Oh,
you need to go play you know, do that. We
still gonna be cool. I'm gonna look out for your
son while we was cool. And then I get a
call say my best friend brother he was my homeboy too,
that they've been hanging out, and I was just.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Like, what damn.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So that was hurtful. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
So I was more through it like I'm a lover,
So I go through the I'm going through the hurtful
part of it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But it's like I didn't play her. I didn't do
nothing but be.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Solid from your perspective, because you said obviously you said
like we all know, we're all very familiar with you
and also the character you play on rap shit, but you,
as you said, you don't know the gender I want
to know from you. I was having this conversation with
my homegirl and she's bisexual.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And I was like, what's harder today? Right?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Men are women? And she was and she was explaining
to me why they're both equally hard pros and concerts.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But we lost. She said, men are worse. But what's
your thought?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Men y'all ain't no good?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
But the men and I date, they actually dates some
solid dudes, but they just they have a communication problem.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's my issue with me.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Y'all have a And that's what I like from what
I love from women is that they communicate so with something,
communicate little too bid.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, you know, everything every day often, but we still communicating.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
It's like, man, but that's what it is with the women.
It's like, who is harder for me? I think it's
harder for me to date.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It'll be for me. It's probably women.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Really because because of long as sex messages, because.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I'm gonna write them back because I'm still a woman
so we can get out.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Is it based off the over communication though? Is it
like just too much.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
For you for me?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
So I date, I date like a lot of straight girls.
So my issue will explain that real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Because you said what I don't that's nothing.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I don't a lot of straight girls come to me
and be like, I'm not even into women, but it's
something about you. And I mean like, and I be
checking the till right, but then I be checking the
tail thinking it's cool. And what's making harder for me
is that a lot of the women they want to
like get married. And I'm like, wait, like I didn't
you know, Like wait a minute, are you straight? Like
(18:27):
we have the fun real quick? But no, So this
for me is hard. It's harder, and it's harder for
me with women because I care more about women than men,
and I think they're more delicate.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So I don't want to hurt a woman. You get
what I'm saying. So I don't think it's hard because
of you know, the women. I think it's me like,
I don't want to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I know what's gonna happen, so let me just not
even Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I don't really care about hurting the nigg like damn, because.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Why y'all built for this for men? Do men not
getting no grades? Be honest?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I mean, now be.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I want, but I said no, like, no men get
it's not looking for what for? What is the reason
men don't get grace?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
For real?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
A lot of men not even doing manly ship right now.
That's cuse here.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Not.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
It's a lot of sassy men. Now, you know what
I'm saying, And I'm not saying gay, it's just sassy.
It's a lot of men that are soft. A lot
of men feel like they want to be chose, you
know what I'm saying. Like, you know, it's like man
like gone with all that soft ship. So it's like,
you know, men don't get that right now.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know what's interesting to me is every time I
have this conversation with a friend of mine who either
is gay or bisexual, it's always interesting to hear the
perspective that's coming that's coming out. I'm a straight man,
but it's always the perspective that comes cause it's like, no, no,
I'm bisexual, but you still.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Need to be a man. It's like it's like, wait, okay,
come again.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
When I amen I have I'm not I'm not some
girl with daddy issues. You feel me, well, I got
daddy issue, but not like nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But you know, we cool.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But I expect I expect a man to lead, and
I feel like it's kind of like emasculating if I
kind of try to lead and over step you. So
I wouldn't even put him in that position. But my nigga,
you're not finna lead men like that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What you we not?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
We leading me the wrong way?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, And it's like, I understand a lot of women
don't like being some missment all that. I don't mind.
I will, I will be a woman. I don't mind
that I come from. My mom is such a want.
She's a wife, you know what I'm saying. My dad, Like,
I understand the roles and a lot of people feel
like there shouldn't be roles. I'm not a person like that.
I'm not battling. That's not something I got a beef with.
Well we're equal, I'm not equal, nigga, take the trash
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fast or I'll watch, I'll cook, I'll you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I'll do these things. But when I dated the last.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Guy I dated, I ain't gonna say his profession it okay,
So he was an athlete and he profession because because
I was gonna pick.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
A pick the sport and.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
The ball, h what color is the ball that he uses?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
The ball got air in it? So look, so my
thing he.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Left I allowed him to lead to take the lead,
and he had me and some bullshit, you know, and
and I was trying to be quiet and trying to
let him handle it, but then I had to step
in and handle it. Get the situation taken care of.
And I before breaking up with him, I called his
mom and I said it ain't gonna work. You know,
I said, he not ready.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So you told the mom before you actually broke.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Up with him, because I had already told him he would.
I've been saying he wasn't ready. He can't because I'm
not no. I ain't no regular woman. I come from
a death street, you know. I got my dad a
street dude. I learned a lot of things. So it's like,
you can't. You can't play with me, you can't bs me.
I don't have them type of problems, you know when
girls be liking he cheated six times.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I don't have those. I don't have those. And he
hit me like, what we're not doing? That's not playing?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, because I'm too We were too cool. It's love.
It's a vibe.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But I allowed him to take the lead on something.
What it was is he brought a situation to me.
He probably a money play to me. So if you
my dude and you bring a money play to me,
then I think you didn't check the nigga out or
get the homework, cause why would you bring him to me?
And the dude on the fall with me. My last
straw was that the dude was telling me was talking,
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you know, talking shit about my boyfriend. So I called
I had my dude on three He said basically, dude,
ow owe me some money. So he was like, he
was like, I gave him money to your boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I say what?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
So I called dude and was like, get on three way,
don't don't say nothing, but I want you to hear
what this dude saying about you. But I'm thinking the
dude was just finna say yo, I did give old
boy your money.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
He didn't give it to you.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Dudes start talking reckless about my dude like raight he
on the fall like man and for real boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
A bitch and da da da da dah. And I'm starling,
thinking dude for the cume off mute. But he never
came off mute. Sonny. We got off the phone. I
called him like this what you want to.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Call It's the time you need to be off.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You don't have to mute?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, not now?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
And I see what you want that?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
He said, yeah, And I said, well, well why you
didn't say nothing? You know he was talking about why
you ain't say nothing? He said, because you told me
to stay on mute. I said, oh, damn, okay, and
he was like, but don't worry about i'mna give you him. No,
it was just too much softness in a situation.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
He not a soft dude. But take the lead.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
In those instances, do you as a woman lose respect
for the man as as the leader to lead you?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
For me?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
For you?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
But I think I lose respect for me. But I
think he's going to be great for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
No, I get that.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
You know what I'm saying for me? You can't you not.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
It's not conducing for my life, you know what I'm saying.
A guy that I dated before that the reason we
start he don't know. But the reason we stopped dying
because we was having a conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
He was perfect.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
He's actually married with a beautiful white, beautiful kids. The
reason we stopp danging because he he was okay with
being a stay at home dad. This was before he
had kids, and I just said, all that's what's up
and that was out. I don't think we talked after that,
but it was nothing to say, So.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You did you cut it off for them or you
just stopped talking.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We kept talking for the day and then the next day.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Was that context? How long were you? How long we
had you guys been talking?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I've been talking for like two months?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Two months? He was okay with that, but he it was.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
He said it too comfortable. He's like, you know, I
don't mind if if I was stay at home dad, And.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I'm like, what, but what was it? What was it about? That?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You do?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Do you internalize that as it not him not having
a hustle or a driver or something that he's going towards.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
That was a lack of ambition?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Got you okay?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Now, yeah, I need you to communicate that because a
lot of people will look at that but like.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yo, you got something right there. No, that's a good dude.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
But because at this point we both probably fresh out
of college.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
You know, if we had a collegue and we chasing dreams,
you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do in life.
I didn't always say I'm gonna be an actress. That's
not what I said. You know, I just was like,
I got my degree, what's next? And for you to
tell me I'm okay with being a stay at home
that what I want a nigga. That if it's gonna
be a nigga, then I expect you to. I want
to make more money. Even if you don't, then we
I know you chase it and.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I know we grind it. That ambition.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, so I'm like, you what and who am I
to tell you that that's not a good that's a
good goal for you, and ye'ah be great.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You know what I'm a fan of is people in
Hollywood that don't get enough credit as casting directors.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And what I just watched is the Duke of Miami.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
What you said, like, I just see, like how much Okay,
let me ask you how much percentage wise is Jonica
Duke of Miami?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Like what percentage I will give?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
That's about I'll say about fifty fifty fifty?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, because I understand, because you're like, what, yeah, yeah,
I understand. I understand Chastity's ambition and her goals. Now
does she go about the right way not all the time.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
She'll look goofy, she'll look corny, but at the end
of the day, she get it done. You feel me,
So I understand that aspect of it. But nah, Johnah
adjust a little different. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's johna more rough than Chastity.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
No, okay, Chassy the sweetheart though not, I think about it,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What I love about the show right now is that
you're kind of seeing that role kind of untackling and
evolve over this last season. For sure, you under saying,
because before it was kind of like, oh, she's rough, rugged, raw,
but you kind of see like her realizing like, oh damn, Okay,
maybe I didn't go about this the right way. Okay,
let me kind of sit back and kind of like
really think about this and damn. Like that's what I
love about the character as it's evolving, you know what
(26:32):
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
One thing I'm curious about it in terms of, uh,
you now getting the limelight, getting this attention. Is it
hard to maintain personal relationships with this now? Like, is
it hard for you to have new friends and getting
new relationships with people? Because now the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Is on you.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And I think a lot of so it sucks because
a lot of girls that like me, they think they get.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
In chastity and I'm they love the character.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah, and I'd be like chastity, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
But that's the problem that and a lot of the
guy So you know how most guys you think would
whole you know, she like girls dudes that I they're
not into that. They be like nah, because they know
I'll probably go off and marriage and get you know
what I'm saying, Like they like nah, It's a it's
a it's a tricky spot.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It's how do you navigate through how do you navigate through.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Getting personal relationship It's not even relationships like that, but
like even maintaining friendships and really understand.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Who's there like for you and who's there for the
character like that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I didn't think about somebody thinking that they're dating the
character or maybe even being friends with the character as
opposed to Jonica.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I've been fortunate enough, thank god.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
He slid like some solid people in my life, like
everybody is in they they pretty solid and they all
got their own motion. And that's what I that's really
what I'm looking at, Like you got to have your
own motion that way, I know you don't need nothing
from me, you know what I'm saying, and not need it,
not necessarily mean.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Money, cause I ain't got it like that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Opportunity, just opportunity or to be around like I don't
have that and I've had it. It cross paths, but
you can kind of feel it, you can see it.
People try to act like they don't know this person
is the opportunities. You feel that, you feel that, and
I'm an energy person, so I'm like, it's just feel
little things feel weird.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I don't care how.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Organic you try to be. It's a facade and I
could feel it. I'm like, nah, let's get away.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Have you ever No, I was gonna say deep. So
if you feel it, you feel the energy, do you
give them grace until they fuck up? Or do you
cut off immediately? Like let's just say the energy is
not right with something? You're like, now, I'm cool, I'm
not gonna even put myself in that situation. Or do
you say I allow it and then once I see
that red flag, I'm cool.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I know it's one person that I was cool with,
and she never did nothing to me. She was actually
sweet to me, but I watched how she treated a
lot of people and I kind of feel back.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And now me and her don't.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
We don't talk, and we never had a discuss why
she don't follow me and everything, you know, and I
never questioned. We see each other, We hugged, we laughed,
but I just didn't like the way she treated other people.
You get what I'm saying. So when I say it's energy,
it's what I move off of. So I don't cut
people off like, oh energy, you know you you're a
bad person. I just I really watch how you treat
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other people. Because people treat me nice, they gonna treat
they gonna treat you nice.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Because you got you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
But what you treat that jenidor like what you treat
the wed and those are the things that I look
at when around people. And she just wasn't a nice
She wasn't nice to people that she claimed she cared
about what I'm standing snowball chance, well to be honest.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, have you ever given somebody the chastity like a
fantasy before? Because no, let me tell you why I
come from because when you said that they want to date,
they want to date her and not Jonica. I was like,
I feel that because I felt the same way about
uh Deanna from Power.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Okay, I'm like, I want to date Diana Tohada.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And then I started following the girl girl, he's doing
your research and I was doing my resour that ain't her?
Like do I want that?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And then I was like, you know what, let me
try Fie right.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Bad.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I was like, I ain't gonna lie. This is the thing, right,
I was on.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I was on.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I was on Fie.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
But then I'm like, if he probably nah she gets
me into some ship, let me fuck with Diana, right.
So I'm fucking with Diana.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
In my you think a character she might not get
you in ship.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
This is all in my.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Brain, right And then I low y seeing something that
she did and I was like, that's who I'm on.
I was like, yeah, a little tricky, I'm tripping a
little bit, but yeah, so I totally understand that. But
have you ever given somebody that that you know that
that state were doing or wanted and you gave it
to him?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
No, because that's me being fake. I couldn't even do
you know, I just can't be fake.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
But before I went the Bad Girls Club, my mom
I never watched it, and my gay homeboy, they.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Was prepping me.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
They like, you need to walk in that house with
some heels on and a swimsuit and when people walking
you see down you smoke a cigarette and be like, oh,
like you that bitch.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
So I'm practicing.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I'm walking in the house.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I never smoked cgarettes my life. I'm just got my
imagine that I'm like this. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna
do this, and I'm practicing.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I get to that house, I put on some ugs.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I'm not doing that ship because I what I at
the last moment, I thought about if the world hate
me I rather than hate me for me that way
I could be like, like, I hate.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You because this.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I was like, ah, that's true, because that's me to
make people love me or hate me, and I don't
care about either way.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's love regardless you myself.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
So you mentioned something earlier, you said, I never wanted
to do this, like I never set out to do
the actress that the acting thing?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
What what was it in the beginning that you what
you get your three.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
In psychology and my undergraduate.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Same. I dropped out. I was going for psych two.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
But I think it was easy for us to go that.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's like psychology communication, it's like your degree. I mean
I use it all the time when I'm talking to
people quick questions. Yes, use it every day, exactly, use
it every single exactly exactly you said, you hear me.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So with that said, like.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Going through Hollywood, going through trying to break through, right,
what do you feel like it's harder? Is it harder
to break through? Is it hard harder to transition because
you've you've established yourself. You got in with the Bad
Girls Club obviously, right, But now it's like you don't
want people to know you just for that, and obviously
people get you for rap shit.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's like it's a completely different thing.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So it's like, I feel like that's a transition for you, right,
So is it harder to break through the industry?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Is it harder to transition? Your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think it's equal, and it depends on who you are.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
For me, it was harder to transition because I had
to make some financial decisions. You know, I'm getting paid
for stuff for reality and I know that that's not
I had to shut it down. I had to say,
I'm done except taking that. I don't want to do
a host. I don't want to do these things, you
know what I'm saying, So that I can go ghost
and just I want to study, and then I want
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the actors to respect me, you know, so I'll start
getting classes. And instead of asking my you know, getting
Christmas presents from my family for things that I want,
I was like, can you pay for this camera?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Can I get an acting class? My I need a coach.
You get what I'm saying, Cause I'm in LA trying
to survive. Yeah, and I promise you. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I god, I don't know how I was paying rent,
you know, but because I chose to transition. And what's
funny is even now, I was actually on West Hollywood
at a restaurant and it was a cute little white boy.
He had pink hair, and I was with my stylists
and he said, oh my god, I know you. And
he said where do I know you from?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
And I was just like, I don't know. I always
tell people, probably with the high school together. And then
he was like, no, no, I know you.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And then she was like, she's on the show, and
I said, no, he don't know me from the show.
I said, he know me from Bad Girls Club. I
know how my fans look at what they know me from.
And when she said the show, he was like huh.
And then when I said Bad Girls Club, he said explode.
So it's like a lot of my fans are still
from that what my supporters I would say, and I'm
trying to get them to convert, Like, hey, guys, yeah,
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you know how many times I get tagged in a
day on Baddies Natalie Nunn saying putting you down.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
We want to see her face on TV, and I
want to write back, I am on.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I am on TV, you know, but I just.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Don't even I just, you know, I want The transition
is actually still happening. So that's why I can say
it's hard. It's harder for me to transition, but it's
equal because getting in the industry was hard about to say,
you know, coming from Saint Louis to Atlanta to here
and then not even knowing what I'm gonna do, I
just start doing commercials, then stand up comedy and then acting.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's like it was just it was a line I
was aligned with it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Do you think that what you being who you are
obviously making that transition and that pivot, but being authentic
yourself the whole time.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Do you think that helps you or hinders you?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Because I feel like it sometimes can hold us back
because I'm unwilling to compromise certain things.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Yeah, it hinders me, I would say, because of what
you just said.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Like, I'm like, I don't really want to compromise that,
but sometimes, But what I did learn in my acting
class shout out to Kelly Tie. She said something that
was very profound that I won't forget, and she said,
never let your creativity pass through the eyes of someone
else morality. I feel that and I will not forget
it because it made me. It was coming down to
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like what you would you do sex scenes and stuff
like that, and I'm like, no, I don't want my
family did it up? Not have to realize this is art?
You know, this is this is art fact, And I
can't let what you don't understand stop me from doing
what I know I love to do, which is my job.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
You see what I'm saying. So that helped me be
more confident in who I am.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I think I think that's important that you spoke on
that because I remember I saw you do.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I saw a conversation you had.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I forgot what platform was on, but y'all were talking
about representation and how much that matters, especially people of
that look like us, right and come from our communities.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But then you being who you are, standing on it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
And representing yourself proudly as opposed to like you know,
bobbing and weaving and ducking it and stuff like that,
You're like, no, this is who I am, this is
what I'm on, this is what love it to leave
it this, yeah, this is what I believe in.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
But then what you just said it made me think
about this. I wont want to say who it was.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But as far as letting the art pass through other people,
because I remember when Saucy Santana came out, and when
Saucy Santana came out.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I was like, this ship is hard, like this ship
is fire right, the music, the music, just making sure
you know, just the music. I'm just making sure people
be clipped that up.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That's what we're doing. I'm just I want to make
sure right what correct.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Elaborate on that, y'all that when Saucy came out. I
wanted to support him. I wanted to play the records right.
And I remember certain people that I was that I
was around at the time. They were like laughing at me, like, oh,
you want to support this. I'm like they were like, man,
I'm like he got nails and this, I said, bro
the music slating.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I was like, I don't give a funk.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I said, look, let me tell you something about me,
and I said this to it was about four individuals
who were making fun of me, I said, And they
were powerful individuals. I'm like, I don't even if the
nigga gaye straight, he could be queer, blue purple. Do
the music slack? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's what I'm judging.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
You got to put his post in your car.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Don't give a about none of that. This ship, this
was not not walk. What's the other one to beyond booty?
I don't know how you know what y'all.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Played too much. I was like, man, that ship hard
by that song was hard.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But anyway, the reason why it made me think of
that is because what you said as far as second
guessing yourself and not being willing to put yourself out
there like that. I think it's dope to see somebody
like you do it in the way that you do it,
because it's done with integrity, and it's done like it's
not taking so serious, and I feel like a lot
of people take themselves too serious and then that's where
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the jokes come.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
That's like social media, everybody's so serious and it'd be like,
you know, my likes And it's actually sad because I
hear a lot of kids needing they likes and oh
my god, I only got twelve.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Like the fuck, go play?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
You know what, I realized it's easier for us to
say that because we grew up in the era without
it and with it now. We was just talking to
our videographery Be about that there's some people who literally
all they know is this, so it's like that's what
they're judging themselves off of, and it's crazy to think
of it because this is the first generation that we're
seeing that literally has their whole lives built around social media,
because that's that's how their confidence is built, that's how
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they're their valid is met is through social media and
the likes and all that. Before we let you go,
you mentioned something about the sacrifice right and saying when
you were coming up and instead of getting me this man, yo,
give me this camera or pay for this class right now,
and I really want to focus on this. And it
kind of goes to this point with people that are watching,
they see you know, season two, they see you succeeding,
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they see all the wonderful things that you're going through,
But how do you how do you go how do
you get past like the downside, the negative things?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
How do you build yourself out up out out of
a trying moment that something that's happened to you recently?
Just so people that are watching this and seeing it's
been like, okay, I'm not alone.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Read well, my brother died three days before we start
filming season one, damn. And I'm like, I don't if
you know, if you know this type thing, Wow, that
was my boy and he twenty nine from asthma, you
know what I'm saying. So that actually was what made
that okay for me, is because I said, oh, who
want to be mad at God? You know somebody that
from asthma you came out of. But to build out
of stuff like that, you gotta for me even to
(40:04):
remain humble.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I just I talked to like.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
If kids in my life, like my little brother thirteen,
but he actually getting older. I'm like, if you get
a kid their innocence, it is so pure that it
reminds you of what matters in life. You know, when
you talk to people who are you know, older, everybody
always we all stressed. You probably got so many tabs
open in your head right now, like, Okay, after this podcast,
we gotta do this, then I gotta do this to
Monday tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Got to do kids, don't give it.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I just want to play someone you know, they don't
even a chicken nugget to twirl, and it'd be like, okay,
this is what life is about. Like sometimes you just
gotta close them tabs and tell yourself, you know, in
divine order, this too shall pass and keep building.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on? Uh,
what's that gonna ask you?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
What are your thoughts on straight people playing gay roles
and gay people playing straight roles?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Because I was talking to.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
A lot of people have a problem with a lot
of people have a problem with that, and it was like, well,
we need to play And I'm like, well, because somebody. No,
I don't know who this was, but somebody related it
to black face, right where what's his name? In Tropic
Thunder had on tut name Now I forgot his name,
but he had the black he had he played a
black man.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
It's not equivalent to me.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Okay, it's not because that's like, what's your thoughts on
somebody that's single, playing and married?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:21):
It's acting. You know, I'm not a stud, so I can't.
I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I didn't book this role. When I went in trying
to be Jonica, I actually got denied. I had to
go back clean some sh it up and go tapp
into being his character because Chasity isn't a tomboy. Chasity
isn't by Chassy is a stud, you know, so I
had to go get get dirty to do it. So
it's like, no, there's to me, there's nothing wrong with that.
If you straight you play game.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
We acting right down Junior who he was going to
talk about, Robert down.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah. And then the other thing that I wanted to
ask you about is oh as far as from a
from obviously shout the Easter, who's who's probably low key
breaking more artists than DJ and I'm a digel.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Well, and a female artist. She's gonna bring them out.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Facts.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Have you discovered any new artists that you with that
you rocking with from soundtracks in the playlist that get
released and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yuh yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
And I don't even I don't even be knowing the artists.
I just like the song and be like, who is this?
You know he used to be playing some we'd be
having some good stuff, but people don't know. I don't
listen to referreraal what you listen to? R and B
and jazz? I love jazz, jazz and I love like
Bonnie James like I'm a jazz listener and the gospel
like I'm nothing that people think of anyways. R and
B is my that's my big one, you know. I
(42:41):
was really Brian McKnight was my guide to getting out
of trouble. Now I got to listen to him. It's
private shit.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, I feel listen to R Killing a little bit,
but not.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That we were talking about them in the last podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
As far as separating people's personal things between and their music.
So for you, you're saying you can't, you can separate
the from the personal, or it's hard for you to
do that.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
But it's like some songs like Okay, you know, like
you know some songs, it's like, Okay, likes R Kelly
got some songs that I don't.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I don't not like him.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
He's disgusting, you know what I'm saying, along with a
Diddy and everybody else that's coming out. You feel me,
It's like, Okay, I don't really funck with y'all. But
then he ain't got no music that I really feel
like playing. But R Kelly got some songs that's like,
you know what I'm saying, So it's like I could
separate it. But that's why I respect what he said
about Saucy because it's like, not any of music good.
I don't care about what he what, what what you
(43:34):
what your sexuality is and what you're doing in the bedroom.
I ain't got nothing to do with your your craft
and what you your gifts.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
But I ain't into that. You know the people that
do that, like R Kelly ship now that's out.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
But I try to separate it, you know, Like I'm
mad at Brian because it's like his whole his kids
coming out saying ship I'm like.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
That's fucked up, but one.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Like like, I mean, like.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yo, man, Johnic, we appreciate you coming through HBO's rap.
Ship Man, it's a phenomenal show that the shouts at
homie Chris who wrote the last episode, Chris Christy Man.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
We call him Brindy Jeffson. She's one of the pretty girls.
She called him crazy. She said he a sick genius. Yeah, man,
a sick.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Man, shouts out to him. We've been knowing him from
day one. That's a salute to him. Thank you for
coming on through. What can people expect from from Jonica
moving forward? Any different roles, any things we want to
keep our eyes on.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Yeah, I pray, I pray, I get you know, I
pray for movies. That's what I'm aiming towards.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
We strike just in it. So we went for the
top of the year to see what what I can
go out for stand up. I'm preparing to get back
and get that do that I'm supposed to be. I'm
supposed to be doing a podcast actually, but I don't
want to do one because.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
They be counseling.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I don't got no filter. I was in here. Before
I was talking with Job was like, don't say say that.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
You know what I learned, especially from this game.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
We've been doing this since nine and before they were
called podcasts, and what I learned is fuck it.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Because not not you have more losing we do.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
But what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is like
you said, if they don't like me because I'm me,
I'm that's across.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I'm willing the bear.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
But it's so much weak.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
You can't say I just found out we can't say midgi.
They're retarded, Like I can't say that stuff I thought
there was. I say them like, you know what I
can't say now you say that.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I just had a conversation with my uncle. It's very
very very candid conversation.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I have my my one of my uncles during Thanksgiving
because he was like, because one of my cousins is gay,
and he was calling her a word and I'm like,
I didn't even know that that was a fence.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
He was calling her a butch.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Right, my grandy said bull dagger with confidence. They said
bulldagger sister was a bull dag.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I said, I don't think I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
What that was. I've no, I never heard Bulldagger. I
never even heard that, but I know what that is.
But I'm not even covering mind. I was like, I
don't know what that but when he said Butcher, I'm like,
I don't know if you could say that, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Is we're in a time where I don't know. Yeah,
we gotta check the status.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Yeah yeah, sure, Yeah, we don't know. So that's why
I'm like, we're gonna make sure we just I just
shut up. But yeah, I actually respect y'all Before I go,
I'll say I do respect y'all for doing this since
on nine, so you know everybody got on this podcast
like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, we've been in it, you know, minute for a minute.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
But I respect that.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Thank you, Thank you all for having me, and we
thank you for what you're doing in your craft. And
we just look forward to seeing what's next and hope
looking to have this conversation once again for the next
couple of projects, whatever else you got going on. Right,
you're officially your homegrown homie. Okay, yes, shouts out to
Jonniica Booth all right aka Blue AKA I saw a
post you put up. He's like, there's different variations of
people that know me from depending on what.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, because I put all my put all the names,
all the.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Names, man follow her everywhere. We'll link it in the description.
Thank you for coming on through. We appreciate it's home grown.
Chuck does with DJ ahead, We'll catch you out next time.
All right, we're back added Homegrown the podcast. Man got
a great conversation. None lessons we always do. I Chuck
Dizzle Yes live from the Fab Factory Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Shot the Fab Factory. Shout to our family.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
We appreciate everybody that's liking, subscribing, comment and and getting
involved in these conversations. Absolutely had an amazing conversation last
episode last week, a couple of transparent ones. A lot
of transparent conversations being had. Uh, and appreciate everybody accepting
the vulnerability that comes along with my teeth for still cricket.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So we're doing Are we doing a shot by shot
every week? Now? We don't do monthly?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Okay, so next month we're gonna check in this.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I just wanted to say that because in the comments
I was getting you, you posted what's the name of
the episode?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Tooth be told? That was fed up? What you mean?
He tided episode to introduced our guests.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We got an actress and the star of HBO's rap ship, Johonica,
both up in here.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Man. Okay, Blue, what that's right?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You got a nice teeth. You don't to be told?
That's what he named the episode, because my teeth fucked up.
You know what I'm saying, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Me, you would have want that brought attention to it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Look, we've been doing the show for some of the years,
and last episode he's gonna talk about man after all
this time, he wants to switch seats because he's like,
I'm insecure about the way my tooths. I told him
the truth as a real homie, Like, hey, brons, I
said it on camera.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I was being vulnerable. That's why you can't share your vulnerabilities.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
They have characters.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
They're fucked up and and the thing is and the
thing is right. I'm not tripping because like it don't stop,
no motion. I like that though, But at the same time,
it's like, all right, I'm doing my part. When I
got them visil Line Trade, I got in my pocket, right,
So I got them visitl Line trays. I'm doing my part.
He gonna tie to the episode Tooth be Told and
got and got the pictures.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's crazy that.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
You thought that was your boy.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know we all twenty years now, don't do. He's
one for always trying to split up a happy home.
I've been married for with ten years and every every episode,
every way he tries to have some foot. So you're
gonna let your your wife do that? How would you
do if you're what we.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Call I like to call his wife on the air, Yeah,
and ask her questions? Yeah, you know, depending on how
the conversation goes. So, you know, like her celebrity get
to the stores, go straight to the store.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Don't don't do don't do that, don't do nah, don't
do that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
See all to the point that you should you should
not be surprised that I named the tooth be told, okay,
because the thing is I got I got. I gotta
fire first sometimes because I'll get the jokes later on.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I want to swing first.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I want you gotta do it because I'm gonna get
hit anyway. You know what I'm saying. Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So I want to start to solve bye by talking
about your pursuit to Hollywood. Right, Obviously people know that
the Bad Girls Club that that start.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Ten with ten twelve years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I was twenty five. Yeah, that's about ten years.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Ago starting off with that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
How was the pursuit of like coming to Hollywood and
now that you're here, now that you've arrived, right, is
it different from what you expected?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Where you from I'm from Saint Louis. Okay, Okay, go.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Ahead, sorry, So those Saint Louis days, right, and the
pursuit of wanting to do, you know, getting to the
entertainment business is it has it changed from what it
actually is from from when you first started and thinking
about wanting to be in Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Absolutely, Like you know, I don't know if y'all never
been in the mid West Saint Louis. Yeah, it's like
you don't. We don't have this type of stuff. So
I'm thinking I want to drive down sun set palm
trees when I get out here, I just want to
go home, Like where where I'm gonna get home? Because
it's not it's like I've been here long enough to
now I'm settled in, you know, but it is exciting,
it's inspiring to be here.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So when you so, you but Saint Louis is a
good I like Saint Louis.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I love that's home, you know what I'm saying. I
like it. It's a little it has character.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It has it's like your teeth, see what, Yeah, that's
in fact, and I remember going to a place.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know this is not in Missouri, but it's a
place called East sat right, that is not Saint Louis.
But yes, I know it's East Saint but and it's
a completely separate thing across the bridge.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
The bridge that's where.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And I know, I bet you I went over there,
dirty man. It has character, that's what we got. Care
like there is it still like that? Like where because
I went ten years ago and there was no public works,
they were like, we don't have like mail and like just.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Public services and stuff like trash. Yeah, it's very like.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's okay, it's different, we're gonna talk about it different.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But so is it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But the originally realized that just because when I went
to because I'm ignorant, so when I went to Saint Louis,
they were like, we can go to East Sints. So
I think it's the same thing. And I noticed that
when people come to LA they look at it the same. Ship.
They go to Holly like you said, I'm going to
out Sunset, and then they go to like Roscos, right,
and they be like this same what it looked like
on TV.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's not a like comped and Lamert Like when I
be out that way, Lamert is actually beautiful.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
They got us it's scary, you know. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Twist nine and be riding down Watts and in them
areas and all that. But it's always that type of
area in every place East Saint Is East saying you
know you go over there.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I haven't been over there in years because because it's
one way way out, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So it's like, why why even risks?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know anything when you come when you do come
to l Like, what's something that's mandatory? Like obviously you travel,
you have to go to Miami, back home whatever?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Actually live here?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Now you're here. No, that's what I'm saying. You you've
been here, but I say you ten toes in now.
You know what I'm saying. You don't go back home
at all.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I'm actually gonna go and visit my grandmother. But no,
I try to fly everybody to me. I try to say,
let's do so she got money.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That's fine. I'm trying to keep it cute. I see
you when I see you, I go out there.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Now, I will go like I win. I probably go
once a year, you know, but I go now. I
don't go and do what I used to do. I
go and sit in the house, I be with family
because Saint Louis it's top five dangerous. Don't get it twisted,
you know. And when they think you got something that
you know, so it's like, let me just stay out
the way.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
But that's my city.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I love when you go.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
When you do, do you notice the reception because I
notice when people make pivots in their life, right, because
when you go, when you ascend, when you were sind
in your life, you start getting extra relatives to come around,
to get an extra cousin that need a car, you
get an extra like uh, like, what's the what's the
wildest request that you've gotten since you've been on television?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Honestly, my family not even like no ya, my people salid.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
But what the wildest request that I get is when
I when I used to host after this wasn't even
this wasn't even from from rap shit.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
This is from BGC.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I go in and host the club and somebody and
I hug a fan and they'll start rapping or singing
in my ear to let me know that they do music,
and I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Like, I know I.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Can't do that, dear reality.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I don't even have nothing for y'all. Why y'all think
I can help you? So that that be crazy to me.
But the craziest request.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
My mom, She the worst, one word, what what? I'm
sitting over here with a Apple Watch because I didn't
bought her a Rolex for her birthday. Me and my
sister we got a Rolex for her birthday. And she
tells me, I don't even want this Apple Watching no more, damn,
and I throw it away. So she ended up giving
it to me. But I don't even have a role,
(07:13):
you know, But it's herd. But she the reason that
I'm my parents. I'm trying to aim to get them.
I just want to when I make them happy, kind
of let me know I'm fulfilled.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know, it's funny that you mentioned your parents. I
think I heard you mentioned that your dad was the
reason why you you're just not a faithful person.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Absolutely, you're a.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Cheating because of that.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know that that was younger men, and what we're
not going to do we talk about the old because
I've changed transition.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm glad you said that, right.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So do you think we heard we hear the phrase
all the time, Once a cheater, always a cheater.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
No, that's cat, that's cap. That's absolutely you can't do that.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
You can't once nothing is always nothing, you know, in
my opinion, you can't. We can all change, you know.
If I feel we could all change, let me.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Ask you this.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, So based on that, because I did want to ask,
I talk about that too, because I am not necessarily
a believer in traditional structures of things. I'm I'm against
the grain type person. Right, he ain't trying to get married,
he ain't trying to add I will give okay, So
look me explain to you real quick. I look at
marriage and monogamy like some bullshit. Now I look at
(08:22):
me explaining. I look at it like avocado toast. This
is comparison here right here we go. Avocado marriage is
just like avocado toast. It's some bullshit that white people
made up. It's not real. But I probably tried.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
One day avocado one day, I tell it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
But it's some bullshit though, Like it's not a meal.
Avocado avocado toast is not a meal, bro, it's not
a meal, Bron, don't cook it for me, Like give
me some other ship too, But I'll eat that. And
it's like the bread before, the before the food comes.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's it's not the meal, it's facts. So I'm just
saying it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So what are your thoughts because we have he's been
married for higher how long, but he used to be
an animal in the just respect my ten years outside
in the dorms, we're not you're not talking about that.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Doing that,
that's what we never do.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
That's what he did. He got it out the way
out of That's what you're supposed to do. Get out the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Way on Instagram and ship.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, so I get it. That's cute.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But what I'm saying is from your perspective, I challenged
the I challenged the infrastructure that we know as such
a traditional relationship.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Do you have those thoughts in the new you? Do
you think that?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
First, let me make it clear, I wasn't I cheated. Second,
always I got cheated.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
On first, so you're retaliation.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Second, I wouldn't. I ain't never really go first like that,
you know what I'm saying. And then my cheating wasn't
as bad. It'll be like, you know, you might cheat
and have sex with somebody and then I'm a cheating
make somebody fall in love and we in Now we
got feelings.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Now it's different, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's kind of crazy emotion. It's deeper though, it's.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Deeper, you know what I'm saying. So it hurt a
little worse. My chip probably hurt a little worse because
now it's emotional tized.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But it's always a response. It's not like that, And.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That's how it's been since I was young.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I've never just been like, no, they painted a picture
of me, but I wasn't really tripping off the picture tripping.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know, I don't care rumors like I ain't doing
all that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I get you.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
But as far as marriage, I honestly, i'm thirty five,
thirty six. I can't really I don't see it for me.
But how can I see that when I'm not in
a I'm not in a committed relationship, you know what
I'm saying. But I have been in situations.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Where it'd be like, okay, I can see the possible.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I see it this, you know, until I can't which together.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Longest relationship what it's a longest relationship in earth?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yes, in earth years? I want you to get I
would say, I want to go first, go ahead, go ahead. Sorry,
Now I would say four years, I'm gonna go three
two and a half.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
And I am so, I'm just I'm six months.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
See, I'm a year because you know what, I'm gonna
tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why you just
you just painted this whole. I'm old, I'm transitioning. I'm
changed from that. And initially I was gonna say, you know,
probably less than a year. But after I heard you say,
I said, I'm gonna give it some grace and give
them some years.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Why would I Why do I need to know four
years that it's not gonna work. That's my thing.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
So people, your relationship, I don't, it don't work for
me because I'm thinking that's a long There's not much
time you waste.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know, It's it's not about wasting time. It's about
people evolved. You change every every they say the human
changes every seven years. People, I'm like, right, people change
or you can use you can use any term, right.
We all constantly change and evolved. So the person that
you meet in the beginning may not be the same
person in two or three years, you know what I'm saying.
So you have to give time for somebody to kind
(11:52):
of evolve and change and kind of see if that's
something for you.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, I think so, you're right, but no, you're right,
but for me, for you two months, I can tell
if this go, if I want to.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Be around you like that or not.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I'm not get on the ninety days yahety days. We'll
see what I do. Okay, let me ask you this.
How does a first he got a subscription? Right? Yes,
you can exactly. I feel like marriage should work like that.
I can choose to re up or choose to walk away.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And I believe in audits me too. I believe in
I fucked with her because of what the thing is.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I believe that we should interact with humans on a
least basis, right with the least, with the option to
buy at the end of the termine the least you
feel me. So if I want to fuck with you
for thirty two months, I fuck with you for thirty
two months, and then I get the opt out of
the least and walk away free and clear. Not and
don't get Jeff Bezos. You know what I'm saying. But
as opposed to.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
No, no, here's the thing, because because you don't have
you can opt out whenever you want to.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And my thing is, when I'm in a situation, we
know if this's going well or not. Like I know
if this is gonna be anything more if it's not.
So it's like, why even I don't even want to
waste your time.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Have you ever been in a situation where you're like, Okay,
this could be something and maybe the other person didn't
see it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
He asked me if you ever got dumped? Well, no,
I'm not asking if you ever got dumped.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
But it's like, it seems like it's always on your terms,
right has it ever been?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Everybody keep telling me, the current people that i've the
people that I've dated this year, the ongoing thing is
everything on your turn exactly. I'm like, no, I don't
feel that way.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You don't feel that way.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I accept it, You should should accept it, and.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's your life and if that's what it is, you
just you recognizing that. And then I told him, I said, look,
it's gonna take somebody that understands you all the way
around to be down with the type of person that
you are. Don't pay this facide a picture of somebody
that you're not just hey, you're just gonna accept me
for me if it's gonna be on my times, gonna
be on my arms.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And I kind of feel the same way, and there's
nothing wrong with that. But it's like, nah, it's it's
that is you No.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
But listen, I actually I can see myself. I don't
see marriage, but I be seeing myself having a ceremony.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I think I just want to party where.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I'm you want it because you see, I see my
family that walking in, I see me and somebody I respect.
A face ain't clear, the gender ain't clear. I don't
know walking in, we dancing and I'm cute and we
it's a moment. So and I'm a lover.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I'm a party. I'm a lover. So I do believe
in relationship. And I don't get it twisted. I wasn't
in it.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I haven't been in a relationship for six longer than
six months consecutives, gotcha. I've been on it off to
somebody for like I was. I was on it off
of somebody for like two and a half years. And
they play me.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
So it's like and I just before TV, No, this
was like this was like this is this just this.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Was something in the last year or something.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah. And it was a girl and I had been
with her and I'm talking about what's rocking and and
in and out rocking, and pretty much she'll she'll tell
she can't say nothing bad about me.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
She won't.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
She just say Jonaicab, you know they call me Blue.
She was like Blue pretty much saved me. She got
me out of my shell. She she got I got
her to be a strong and you know, she was
going through abuse and all that, so you know what
she claimed to be from a narcissist and all that,
A rich dude, and I kind of built that confidence
back up.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Then she started messing with my homeboy.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Wow, so you.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
So other than that, I didn't do nothing. I was committed,
you get what I'm saying. And I didn't know and
and she started messing with him with her, and I
was we weren't even on that type of time because
I told her, I said, you spent the last eight
years of your life in and out of a relationship.
You went't from dude to me and you get what
I'm saying. I was like, you need to be single.
You want to say, nobody that haven't been outside, like
when people be like yo, I've been like you ain't
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for me, go get dirty, scratch your kneeslesp I feel
the same way. So that's what it was. I was like, Oh,
you need to go play you know, do that. We
still gonna be cool. I'm gonna look out for your
son while we was cool. And then I get a
call say my best friend brother he was my homeboy too,
that they've been hanging out, and I was just.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Like, what damn.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So that was hurtful. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
So I was more through it like I'm a lover,
So I go through the I'm going through the hurtful
part of it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But it's like I didn't play her. I didn't do
nothing but be.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Solid from your perspective, because you said obviously you said
like we all know, we're all very familiar with you
and also the character you play on rap shit, but you,
as you said, you don't know the gender I want
to know from you. I was having this conversation with
my homegirl and she's bisexual.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And I was like, what's harder today? Right?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Men are women? And she was and she was explaining
to me why they're both equally hard pros and concerts.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
But we lost. She said, men are worse. But what's
your thought?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Men y'all ain't no good?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
But the men and I date, they actually dates some
solid dudes, but they just they have a communication problem.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's my issue with me.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Y'all have a And that's what I like from what
I love from women is that they communicate so with something,
communicate little too bid.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, you know, everything every day often, but we still communicating.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
It's like, man, but that's what it is with the women.
It's like, who is harder for me? I think it's
harder for me to date.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It'll be for me. It's probably women.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Really because because of long as sex messages, because.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I'm gonna write them back because I'm still a woman
so we can get out.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Is it based off the over communication though? Is it
like just too much.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
For you for me?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
So I date, I date like a lot of straight girls.
So my issue will explain that real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Because you said what I don't that's nothing.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I don't a lot of straight girls come to me
and be like, I'm not even into women, but it's
something about you. And I mean like, and I be
checking the till right, but then I be checking the
tail thinking it's cool. And what's making harder for me
is that a lot of the women they want to
like get married. And I'm like, wait, like I didn't
you know, Like wait a minute, are you straight? Like
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we have the fun real quick? But no, So this
for me is hard. It's harder, and it's harder for
me with women because I care more about women than men,
and I think they're more delicate.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So I don't want to hurt a woman. You get
what I'm saying. So I don't think it's hard because
of you know, the women. I think it's me like,
I don't want to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I know what's gonna happen, so let me just not
even Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I don't really care about hurting the nigg like damn, because.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Why y'all built for this for men? Do men not
getting no grades? Be honest?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I mean, now be.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I want, but I said no, like, no men get
it's not looking for what for? What is the reason
men don't get grace?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
For real?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
A lot of men not even doing manly ship right now.
That's cuse here.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Not.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
It's a lot of sassy men. Now, you know what
I'm saying, And I'm not saying gay, it's just sassy.
It's a lot of men that are soft. A lot
of men feel like they want to be chose, you
know what I'm saying. Like, you know, it's like man
like gone with all that soft ship. So it's like,
you know, men don't get that right now.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know what's interesting to me is every time I
have this conversation with a friend of mine who either
is gay or bisexual, it's always interesting to hear the
perspective that's coming that's coming out. I'm a straight man,
but it's always the perspective that comes cause it's like, no, no,
I'm bisexual, but you still.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Need to be a man. It's like it's like, wait, okay,
come again.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
When I amen I have I'm not I'm not some
girl with daddy issues. You feel me, well, I got
daddy issue, but not like nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But you know, we cool.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But I expect I expect a man to lead, and
I feel like it's kind of like emasculating if I
kind of try to lead and over step you. So
I wouldn't even put him in that position. But my nigga,
you're not finna lead men like that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What you we not?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
We leading me the wrong way?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, And it's like, I understand a lot of women
don't like being some missment all that. I don't mind.
I will, I will be a woman. I don't mind
that I come from. My mom is such a want.
She's a wife, you know what I'm saying. My dad, Like,
I understand the roles and a lot of people feel
like there shouldn't be roles. I'm not a person like that.
I'm not battling. That's not something I got a beef with.
Well we're equal, I'm not equal, nigga, take the trash
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fast or I'll watch, I'll cook, I'll you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I'll do these things. But when I dated the last.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Guy I dated, I ain't gonna say his profession it okay,
So he was an athlete and he profession because because
I was gonna pick.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
A pick the sport and.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
The ball, h what color is the ball that he uses?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
The ball got air in it? So look, so my
thing he.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Left I allowed him to lead to take the lead,
and he had me and some bullshit, you know, and
and I was trying to be quiet and trying to
let him handle it, but then I had to step
in and handle it. Get the situation taken care of.
And I before breaking up with him, I called his
mom and I said it ain't gonna work. You know,
I said, he not ready.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So you told the mom before you actually broke.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Up with him, because I had already told him he would.
I've been saying he wasn't ready. He can't because I'm
not no. I ain't no regular woman. I come from
a death street, you know. I got my dad a
street dude. I learned a lot of things. So it's like,
you can't. You can't play with me, you can't bs me.
I don't have them type of problems, you know when
girls be liking he cheated six times.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I don't have those. I don't have those. And he
hit me like, what we're not doing? That's not playing?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, because I'm too We were too cool. It's love.
It's a vibe.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But I allowed him to take the lead on something.
What it was is he brought a situation to me.
He probably a money play to me. So if you
my dude and you bring a money play to me,
then I think you didn't check the nigga out or
get the homework, cause why would you bring him to me?
And the dude on the fall with me. My last
straw was that the dude was telling me was talking,
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you know, talking shit about my boyfriend. So I called
I had my dude on three He said basically, dude,
ow owe me some money. So he was like, he
was like, I gave him money to your boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I say what?
Speaker 5 (22:39):
So I called dude and was like, get on three way,
don't don't say nothing, but I want you to hear
what this dude saying about you. But I'm thinking the
dude was just finna say yo, I did give old
boy your money.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
He didn't give it to you.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Dudes start talking reckless about my dude like raight he
on the fall like man and for real boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
A bitch and da da da da dah. And I'm starling,
thinking dude for the cume off mute. But he never
came off mute. Sonny. We got off the phone. I
called him like this what you want to.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Call It's the time you need to be off.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You don't have to mute?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, not now?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
And I see what you want that?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
He said, yeah, And I said, well, well why you
didn't say nothing? You know he was talking about why
you ain't say nothing? He said, because you told me
to stay on mute. I said, oh, damn, okay, and
he was like, but don't worry about i'mna give you him. No,
it was just too much softness in a situation.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
He not a soft dude. But take the lead.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
In those instances, do you as a woman lose respect
for the man as as the leader to lead you?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
For me?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
For you?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
But I think I lose respect for me. But I
think he's going to be great for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
No, I get that.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
You know what I'm saying for me? You can't you not.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
It's not conducing for my life, you know what I'm saying.
A guy that I dated before that the reason we
start he don't know. But the reason we stopped dying
because we was having a conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
He was perfect.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
He's actually married with a beautiful white, beautiful kids. The
reason we stopp danging because he he was okay with
being a stay at home dad. This was before he
had kids, and I just said, all that's what's up
and that was out. I don't think we talked after that,
but it was nothing to say, So.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You did you cut it off for them or you
just stopped talking.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We kept talking for the day and then the next day.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Was that context? How long were you? How long we
had you guys been talking?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I've been talking for like two months?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Two months? He was okay with that, but he it was.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
He said it too comfortable. He's like, you know, I
don't mind if if I was stay at home dad, And.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I'm like, what, but what was it? What was it about? That?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You do?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Do you internalize that as it not him not having
a hustle or a driver or something that he's going towards.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
That was a lack of ambition?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Got you okay?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Now, yeah, I need you to communicate that because a
lot of people will look at that but like.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yo, you got something right there. No, that's a good dude.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
But because at this point we both probably fresh out
of college.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
You know, if we had a collegue and we chasing dreams,
you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do in life.
I didn't always say I'm gonna be an actress. That's
not what I said. You know, I just was like,
I got my degree, what's next? And for you to
tell me I'm okay with being a stay at home
that what I want a nigga. That if it's gonna
be a nigga, then I expect you to. I want
to make more money. Even if you don't, then we
I know you chase it and.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I know we grind it. That ambition.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, so I'm like, you what and who am I
to tell you that that's not a good that's a
good goal for you, and ye'ah be great.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You know what I'm a fan of is people in
Hollywood that don't get enough credit as casting directors.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And what I just watched is the Duke of Miami.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
What you said, like, I just see, like how much Okay,
let me ask you how much percentage wise is Jonica
Duke of Miami?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Like what percentage I will give?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
That's about I'll say about fifty fifty fifty?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, because I understand, because you're like, what, yeah, yeah,
I understand. I understand Chastity's ambition and her goals. Now
does she go about the right way not all the time.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
She'll look goofy, she'll look corny, but at the end
of the day, she get it done. You feel me,
So I understand that aspect of it. But nah, Johnah
adjust a little different. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's johna more rough than Chastity.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
No, okay, Chassy the sweetheart though not, I think about it,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What I love about the show right now is that
you're kind of seeing that role kind of untackling and
evolve over this last season. For sure, you under saying,
because before it was kind of like, oh, she's rough, rugged, raw,
but you kind of see like her realizing like, oh damn, Okay,
maybe I didn't go about this the right way. Okay,
let me kind of sit back and kind of like
really think about this and damn. Like that's what I
love about the character as it's evolving, you know what
(26:32):
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
One thing I'm curious about it in terms of, uh,
you now getting the limelight, getting this attention. Is it
hard to maintain personal relationships with this now? Like, is
it hard for you to have new friends and getting
new relationships with people? Because now the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Is on you.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And I think a lot of so it sucks because
a lot of girls that like me, they think they get.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
In chastity and I'm they love the character.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah, and I'd be like chastity, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
But that's the problem that and a lot of the
guy So you know how most guys you think would
whole you know, she like girls dudes that I they're
not into that. They be like nah, because they know
I'll probably go off and marriage and get you know
what I'm saying, Like they like nah, It's a it's
a it's a tricky spot.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It's how do you navigate through how do you navigate through.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Getting personal relationship It's not even relationships like that, but
like even maintaining friendships and really understand.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Who's there like for you and who's there for the
character like that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I didn't think about somebody thinking that they're dating the
character or maybe even being friends with the character as
opposed to Jonica.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I've been fortunate enough, thank god.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
He slid like some solid people in my life, like
everybody is in they they pretty solid and they all
got their own motion. And that's what I that's really
what I'm looking at, Like you got to have your
own motion that way, I know you don't need nothing
from me, you know what I'm saying, and not need it,
not necessarily mean.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Money, cause I ain't got it like that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Opportunity, just opportunity or to be around like I don't
have that and I've had it. It cross paths, but
you can kind of feel it, you can see it.
People try to act like they don't know this person
is the opportunities. You feel that, you feel that, and
I'm an energy person, so I'm like, it's just feel
little things feel weird.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I don't care how.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Organic you try to be. It's a facade and I
could feel it. I'm like, nah, let's get away.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Have you ever No, I was gonna say deep. So
if you feel it, you feel the energy, do you
give them grace until they fuck up? Or do you
cut off immediately? Like let's just say the energy is
not right with something? You're like, now, I'm cool, I'm
not gonna even put myself in that situation. Or do
you say I allow it and then once I see
that red flag, I'm cool.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I know it's one person that I was cool with,
and she never did nothing to me. She was actually
sweet to me, but I watched how she treated a
lot of people and I kind of feel back.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And now me and her don't.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
We don't talk, and we never had a discuss why
she don't follow me and everything, you know, and I
never questioned. We see each other, We hugged, we laughed,
but I just didn't like the way she treated other people.
You get what I'm saying. So when I say it's energy,
it's what I move off of. So I don't cut
people off like, oh energy, you know you you're a
bad person. I just I really watch how you treat
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other people. Because people treat me nice, they gonna treat
they gonna treat you nice.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Because you got you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
But what you treat that jenidor like what you treat
the wed and those are the things that I look
at when around people. And she just wasn't a nice
She wasn't nice to people that she claimed she cared
about what I'm standing snowball chance, well to be honest.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, have you ever given somebody the chastity like a
fantasy before? Because no, let me tell you why I
come from because when you said that they want to date,
they want to date her and not Jonica. I was like,
I feel that because I felt the same way about
uh Deanna from Power.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Okay, I'm like, I want to date Diana Tohada.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And then I started following the girl girl, he's doing
your research and I was doing my resour that ain't her?
Like do I want that?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And then I was like, you know what, let me
try Fie right.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Bad.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I was like, I ain't gonna lie. This is the thing, right,
I was on.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I was on.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I was on Fie.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
But then I'm like, if he probably nah she gets
me into some ship, let me fuck with Diana, right.
So I'm fucking with Diana.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
In my you think a character she might not get
you in ship.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
This is all in my.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Brain, right And then I low y seeing something that
she did and I was like, that's who I'm on.
I was like, yeah, a little tricky, I'm tripping a
little bit, but yeah, so I totally understand that. But
have you ever given somebody that that you know that
that state were doing or wanted and you gave it
to him?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
No, because that's me being fake. I couldn't even do
you know, I just can't be fake.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
But before I went the Bad Girls Club, my mom
I never watched it, and my gay homeboy, they.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Was prepping me.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
They like, you need to walk in that house with
some heels on and a swimsuit and when people walking
you see down you smoke a cigarette and be like, oh,
like you that bitch.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
So I'm practicing.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I'm walking in the house.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I never smoked cgarettes my life. I'm just got my
imagine that I'm like this. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna
do this, and I'm practicing.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I get to that house, I put on some ugs.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I'm not doing that ship because I what I at
the last moment, I thought about if the world hate
me I rather than hate me for me that way
I could be like, like, I hate.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You because this.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I was like, ah, that's true, because that's me to
make people love me or hate me, and I don't
care about either way.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's love regardless you myself.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
So you mentioned something earlier, you said, I never wanted
to do this, like I never set out to do
the actress that the acting thing?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
What what was it in the beginning that you what
you get your three.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
In psychology and my undergraduate.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Same. I dropped out. I was going for psych two.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
But I think it was easy for us to go that.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's like psychology communication, it's like your degree. I mean
I use it all the time when I'm talking to
people quick questions. Yes, use it every day, exactly, use
it every single exactly exactly you said, you hear me.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So with that said, like.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Going through Hollywood, going through trying to break through, right,
what do you feel like it's harder? Is it harder
to break through? Is it hard harder to transition because
you've you've established yourself. You got in with the Bad
Girls Club obviously, right, But now it's like you don't
want people to know you just for that, and obviously
people get you for rap shit.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's like it's a completely different thing.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So it's like, I feel like that's a transition for you, right,
So is it harder to break through the industry?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Is it harder to transition? Your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think it's equal, and it depends on who you are.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
For me, it was harder to transition because I had
to make some financial decisions. You know, I'm getting paid
for stuff for reality and I know that that's not
I had to shut it down. I had to say,
I'm done except taking that. I don't want to do
a host. I don't want to do these things, you
know what I'm saying, So that I can go ghost
and just I want to study, and then I want
(33:10):
the actors to respect me, you know, so I'll start
getting classes. And instead of asking my you know, getting
Christmas presents from my family for things that I want,
I was like, can you pay for this camera?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Can I get an acting class? My I need a coach.
You get what I'm saying, Cause I'm in LA trying
to survive. Yeah, and I promise you. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I god, I don't know how I was paying rent,
you know, but because I chose to transition. And what's
funny is even now, I was actually on West Hollywood
at a restaurant and it was a cute little white boy.
He had pink hair, and I was with my stylists
and he said, oh my god, I know you. And
he said where do I know you from?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
And I was just like, I don't know. I always
tell people, probably with the high school together. And then
he was like, no, no, I know you.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And then she was like, she's on the show, and
I said, no, he don't know me from the show.
I said, he know me from Bad Girls Club. I
know how my fans look at what they know me from.
And when she said the show, he was like huh.
And then when I said Bad Girls Club, he said explode.
So it's like a lot of my fans are still
from that what my supporters I would say, and I'm
trying to get them to convert, Like, hey, guys, yeah,
(34:14):
you know how many times I get tagged in a
day on Baddies Natalie Nunn saying putting you down.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
We want to see her face on TV, and I
want to write back, I am on.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I am on TV, you know, but I just.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Don't even I just, you know, I want The transition
is actually still happening. So that's why I can say
it's hard. It's harder for me to transition, but it's
equal because getting in the industry was hard about to say,
you know, coming from Saint Louis to Atlanta to here
and then not even knowing what I'm gonna do, I
just start doing commercials, then stand up comedy and then acting.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's like it was just it was a line I
was aligned with it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Do you think that what you being who you are
obviously making that transition and that pivot, but being authentic
yourself the whole time.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Do you think that helps you or hinders you?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Because I feel like it sometimes can hold us back
because I'm unwilling to compromise certain things.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Yeah, it hinders me, I would say, because of what
you just said.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Like, I'm like, I don't really want to compromise that,
but sometimes, But what I did learn in my acting
class shout out to Kelly Tie. She said something that
was very profound that I won't forget, and she said,
never let your creativity pass through the eyes of someone
else morality. I feel that and I will not forget
it because it made me. It was coming down to
(35:38):
like what you would you do sex scenes and stuff
like that, and I'm like, no, I don't want my
family did it up? Not have to realize this is art?
You know, this is this is art fact, And I
can't let what you don't understand stop me from doing
what I know I love to do, which is my job.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
You see what I'm saying. So that helped me be
more confident in who I am.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I think I think that's important that you spoke on
that because I remember I saw you do.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I saw a conversation you had.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I forgot what platform was on, but y'all were talking
about representation and how much that matters, especially people of
that look like us, right and come from our communities.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But then you being who you are, standing on it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
And representing yourself proudly as opposed to like you know,
bobbing and weaving and ducking it and stuff like that,
You're like, no, this is who I am, this is
what I'm on, this is what love it to leave
it this, yeah, this is what I believe in.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
But then what you just said it made me think
about this. I wont want to say who it was.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But as far as letting the art pass through other people,
because I remember when Saucy Santana came out, and when
Saucy Santana came out.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I was like, this ship is hard, like this ship
is fire right, the music, the music, just making sure
you know, just the music. I'm just making sure people
be clipped that up.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That's what we're doing. I'm just I want to make
sure right what correct.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Elaborate on that, y'all that when Saucy came out. I
wanted to support him. I wanted to play the records right.
And I remember certain people that I was that I
was around at the time. They were like laughing at me, like, oh,
you want to support this. I'm like they were like, man,
I'm like he got nails and this, I said, bro
the music slating.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I was like, I don't give a funk.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I said, look, let me tell you something about me,
and I said this to it was about four individuals
who were making fun of me, I said, And they
were powerful individuals. I'm like, I don't even if the
nigga gaye straight, he could be queer, blue purple. Do
the music slack? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's what I'm judging.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
You got to put his post in your car.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Don't give a about none of that. This ship, this
was not not walk. What's the other one to beyond booty?
I don't know how you know what y'all.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Played too much. I was like, man, that ship hard
by that song was hard.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But anyway, the reason why it made me think of
that is because what you said as far as second
guessing yourself and not being willing to put yourself out
there like that. I think it's dope to see somebody
like you do it in the way that you do it,
because it's done with integrity, and it's done like it's
not taking so serious, and I feel like a lot
of people take themselves too serious and then that's where
(38:23):
the jokes come.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
That's like social media, everybody's so serious and it'd be like,
you know, my likes And it's actually sad because I
hear a lot of kids needing they likes and oh
my god, I only got twelve.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Like the fuck, go play?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
You know what, I realized it's easier for us to
say that because we grew up in the era without
it and with it now. We was just talking to
our videographery Be about that there's some people who literally
all they know is this, so it's like that's what
they're judging themselves off of, and it's crazy to think
of it because this is the first generation that we're
seeing that literally has their whole lives built around social media,
because that's that's how their confidence is built, that's how
(38:59):
they're their valid is met is through social media and
the likes and all that. Before we let you go,
you mentioned something about the sacrifice right and saying when
you were coming up and instead of getting me this man, yo,
give me this camera or pay for this class right now,
and I really want to focus on this. And it
kind of goes to this point with people that are watching,
they see you know, season two, they see you succeeding,
(39:21):
they see all the wonderful things that you're going through,
But how do you how do you go how do
you get past like the downside, the negative things?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
How do you build yourself out up out out of
a trying moment that something that's happened to you recently?
Just so people that are watching this and seeing it's
been like, okay, I'm not alone.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Read well, my brother died three days before we start
filming season one, damn. And I'm like, I don't if
you know, if you know this type thing, Wow, that
was my boy and he twenty nine from asthma, you
know what I'm saying. So that actually was what made
that okay for me, is because I said, oh, who
want to be mad at God? You know somebody that
from asthma you came out of. But to build out
of stuff like that, you gotta for me even to
(40:04):
remain humble.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I just I talked to like.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
If kids in my life, like my little brother thirteen,
but he actually getting older. I'm like, if you get
a kid their innocence, it is so pure that it
reminds you of what matters in life. You know, when
you talk to people who are you know, older, everybody
always we all stressed. You probably got so many tabs
open in your head right now, like, Okay, after this podcast,
we gotta do this, then I gotta do this to
Monday tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Got to do kids, don't give it.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I just want to play someone you know, they don't
even a chicken nugget to twirl, and it'd be like, okay,
this is what life is about. Like sometimes you just
gotta close them tabs and tell yourself, you know, in
divine order, this too shall pass and keep building.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on? Uh,
what's that gonna ask you?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
What are your thoughts on straight people playing gay roles
and gay people playing straight roles?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Because I was talking to.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
A lot of people have a problem with a lot
of people have a problem with that, and it was like, well,
we need to play And I'm like, well, because somebody. No,
I don't know who this was, but somebody related it
to black face, right where what's his name? In Tropic
Thunder had on tut name Now I forgot his name,
but he had the black he had he played a
black man.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
It's not equivalent to me.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Okay, it's not because that's like, what's your thoughts on
somebody that's single, playing and married?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:21):
It's acting. You know, I'm not a stud, so I can't.
I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I didn't book this role. When I went in trying
to be Jonica, I actually got denied. I had to
go back clean some sh it up and go tapp
into being his character because Chasity isn't a tomboy. Chasity
isn't by Chassy is a stud, you know, so I
had to go get get dirty to do it. So
it's like, no, there's to me, there's nothing wrong with that.
If you straight you play game.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
We acting right down Junior who he was going to
talk about, Robert down.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah. And then the other thing that I wanted to
ask you about is oh as far as from a
from obviously shout the Easter, who's who's probably low key
breaking more artists than DJ and I'm a digel.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Well, and a female artist. She's gonna bring them out.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Facts.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Have you discovered any new artists that you with that
you rocking with from soundtracks in the playlist that get
released and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yuh yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
And I don't even I don't even be knowing the artists.
I just like the song and be like, who is this?
You know he used to be playing some we'd be
having some good stuff, but people don't know. I don't
listen to referreraal what you listen to? R and B
and jazz? I love jazz, jazz and I love like
Bonnie James like I'm a jazz listener and the gospel
like I'm nothing that people think of anyways. R and
B is my that's my big one, you know. I
(42:41):
was really Brian McKnight was my guide to getting out
of trouble. Now I got to listen to him. It's
private shit.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, I feel listen to R Killing a little bit,
but not.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That we were talking about them in the last podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
As far as separating people's personal things between and their music.
So for you, you're saying you can't, you can separate
the from the personal, or it's hard for you to
do that.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
But it's like some songs like Okay, you know, like
you know some songs, it's like, Okay, likes R Kelly
got some songs that I don't.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I don't not like him.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
He's disgusting, you know what I'm saying, along with a
Diddy and everybody else that's coming out. You feel me,
It's like, Okay, I don't really funck with y'all. But
then he ain't got no music that I really feel
like playing. But R Kelly got some songs that's like,
you know what I'm saying, So it's like I could
separate it. But that's why I respect what he said
about Saucy because it's like, not any of music good.
I don't care about what he what, what what you
(43:34):
what your sexuality is and what you're doing in the bedroom.
I ain't got nothing to do with your your craft
and what you your gifts.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
But I ain't into that. You know the people that
do that, like R Kelly ship now that's out.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
But I try to separate it, you know, Like I'm
mad at Brian because it's like his whole his kids
coming out saying ship I'm like.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
That's fucked up, but one.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Like like, I mean, like.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yo, man, Johnic, we appreciate you coming through HBO's rap.
Ship Man, it's a phenomenal show that the shouts at
homie Chris who wrote the last episode, Chris Christy Man.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
We call him Brindy Jeffson. She's one of the pretty girls.
She called him crazy. She said he a sick genius. Yeah, man,
a sick.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Man, shouts out to him. We've been knowing him from
day one. That's a salute to him. Thank you for
coming on through. What can people expect from from Jonica
moving forward? Any different roles, any things we want to
keep our eyes on.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Yeah, I pray, I pray, I get you know, I
pray for movies. That's what I'm aiming towards.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
We strike just in it. So we went for the
top of the year to see what what I can
go out for stand up. I'm preparing to get back
and get that do that I'm supposed to be. I'm
supposed to be doing a podcast actually, but I don't
want to do one because.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
They be counseling.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I don't got no filter. I was in here. Before
I was talking with Job was like, don't say say that.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
You know what I learned, especially from this game.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
We've been doing this since nine and before they were
called podcasts, and what I learned is fuck it.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Because not not you have more losing we do.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
But what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is like
you said, if they don't like me because I'm me,
I'm that's across.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I'm willing the bear.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
But it's so much weak.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
You can't say I just found out we can't say midgi.
They're retarded, Like I can't say that stuff I thought
there was. I say them like, you know what I
can't say now you say that.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I just had a conversation with my uncle. It's very
very very candid conversation.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I have my my one of my uncles during Thanksgiving
because he was like, because one of my cousins is gay,
and he was calling her a word and I'm like,
I didn't even know that that was a fence.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
He was calling her a butch.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Right, my grandy said bull dagger with confidence. They said
bulldagger sister was a bull dag.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I said, I don't think I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
What that was. I've no, I never heard Bulldagger. I
never even heard that, but I know what that is.
But I'm not even covering mind. I was like, I
don't know what that but when he said Butcher, I'm like,
I don't know if you could say that, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Is we're in a time where I don't know. Yeah,
we gotta check the status.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Yeah yeah, sure, Yeah, we don't know. So that's why
I'm like, we're gonna make sure we just I just
shut up. But yeah, I actually respect y'all Before I go,
I'll say I do respect y'all for doing this since
on nine, so you know everybody got on this podcast
like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, we've been in it, you know, minute for a minute.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
But I respect that.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Thank you, Thank you all for having me, and we
thank you for what you're doing in your craft. And
we just look forward to seeing what's next and hope
looking to have this conversation once again for the next
couple of projects, whatever else you got going on. Right,
you're officially your homegrown homie. Okay, yes, shouts out to
Jonniica Booth all right aka Blue AKA I saw a
post you put up. He's like, there's different variations of
people that know me from depending on what.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, because I put all my put all the names,
all the.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Names, man follow her everywhere. We'll link it in the description.
Thank you for coming on through. We appreciate it's home grown.
Chuck does with DJ ahead, We'll catch you out next time.
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