The Alexcis Episode

Alexcis Talks About His New Project, Previous Collab With T-Pain and Wiz Khalifa, & Being Vulnerable

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Are we back at it? Homegrown Radio? Chuck Dizzle DJ Head?
Where are we at right now?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
We already said studios. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
We're not a fab factory. By the way, Yeah, we
had to pull up on our homie man, Man Alexis.
We know, Man Alexis. I mean, but you called them
Maje before change. Yeah, so before we get into the conversation,
you know, because you have pre existing fans, we playing
your song on the radio as brown Boy maj talk
about the titty.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Boy to change name change. So we just said Kenrick Lamar, Nah,
I want to do titty Boy to change.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, true, that's what I mean. To be honest, I
was just brown Boy Mige. I thought it was just
too like I already wanted to change that name. But
one person validated the name change, or a few a
few situations validated the name change, which was number one.
A Post Malones manager hit up cav and was like, Yo,

(01:07):
we got mallage on the post defest. Yeah, yeah, I'm
sorry if I didn't hit his voice correctly. I tried
you at this like, I probably sound like Connor McGregor
some ship my bad. But yeah, so like we were excited,
like hell yeah, and then next you know, we go

(01:27):
to post Malon's album release party. It was really just
a excuse to throw him a birthday party and he
comes up to it's like, bro, I'm not even gonna
do that. My bad, bro, my bad. Guys, it's a
different Madge and we're like damn. But at the time,
I wasn't even mad because I'm chopping it up, but
will I am at the time, So I'm like, I
don't care for this guy right now. It's cool, but

(01:50):
it was cool. It was cool. So that was That
was the first time, and then the second time, which
was the time I guess we did decide to change,
was so sow. I believe it was South slex so
hit up keV and stuff. Was like, yo, bring him through,
let's listen to his stuff. He listens to it everything,
and he's like, so, what is this? What is this?

(02:12):
Brown boy? He's like, You're not Indian, And I was like,
in my head, I'm like, have I been mis interpreting
this my whole life?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
He missed that, you know, and I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
In my head, just I'm really in my head because
I'm not gonna lie too. I'm a little like nervous
because I'm like, I walked into this house where they
got fucking marble statues in the fucking living room. I'm
just like it's nice. It's nice. So yeah, I'm just
sitting there. He's like, yeah, what is this brown boy?
He's like, you know, knives already the brown boy. I
was like, I was like, all right, cool. I was
like yeah, I was like, it's just something I decided. Man,

(02:47):
you know brown boy mag Majin Boos a short from
Majin Boo, my fair dragon ball Z character. He's like,
what's your real name? And I'm a little hesitating because,
like I'm used to in high school, like every time
the teacher would ask me, like or the sub teacher
would be like, oh, Alexis, I'd be like and everyone laughed,
like you feel me, So I'm used to that. I'm
like Alexis. He's like, how do you spell that? I
said a L e x Cis. He's like, that's your name.

(03:09):
He's like Beyonce Drake justin Bieber Alexis. And I was like, yeah,
that's cool, that's cool. And then we just like left
that and then we're just thinking about things and we're
just like, you know what, maybe like your music is
a little serious, like it's not like it's not bullshit
at least I don't think it is, you know, So
then we de sctarted to change it next go round.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I mean, that's that's dope that you will kind of
already you already had like the notion to be to
want to change in those confirmations for you, like because
it could have been the other way around, where you
really rocking with the name and then people like, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
When I came in with that name, it was just
out of us, Like, uh so I was in a
part of this little collective called Upper Hand, like I
was in high school. We're just we're trying to be like,
you know, our future. We're trying to be like, you know,
just like a cool little collective in Arizona. Yeah, out
in Arizona, and everyone was so dope. They were I
think they were they were, But I got I got
tired of some of certain things. I was like, guys,

(04:04):
why are we talking about like cars, we don't have bitches,
we don't fuck chains, we can't buy like why, I
was like, let's fucking let's name it let's let's let's
do something like legit, like what you want to talk
about us being broke. I dropped a song called Broke Boy,
and like that was in me being serious and I
was like, you know what, let me put a bullshit
ass name on there. And I was like, what's what's
some bullshit playboy, Cardi, brown Boy, maj Boom.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's how the name.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, so that's how I came about.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's interesting. And you you spoke on I mean, it's
no secret you got the d Backs hat on you
from Arizona.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's backs tattoos.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Who attack the Arizona Diamondbacks on their skin. I don't
me anyway. Uh, that's loyalty, you know what I'm saying.
But anyway, you from Arizona, what part of Arizona? You're
from Phoenix, Phoenix, Arizona. Now you are to me dope
like you're.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Out, thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I told you before that means a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I was always be saying guest like this with me.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I don't know about him. I don't about him. He's
got that resting just I just look like this.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
But what's dope to me is I didn't realize how
many more people were from Phoenix or were from Arizona,
like the other towns of people.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I forgot the singer. What's the pop singer? She's a's
a girl.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
She's from Chester Bennington, Chess.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I love bro That's where I was going. I love
Chester Benning.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Recip and Elementary. I used to sign my name like
we had. They made us practice our signatures, like do
whatever you want. You can put your name like this.
I just put like Alexis Via and then like LP
circle like because I just really like Lincoln Parks.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I was literally going to Chester Bro.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I didn't know that like doing like and I'm in
a Lincoln Park fans like high school.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
But did you draw some of that influence from him
from from a sonic standpoint?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Honestly, I don't. I never really thought about that. I
think he's too legit, like, but I think it's more
of a standpoint of everything I listened to because I
just listened to everything, Like I listened to country, I
listen to pop music. I listened to like a classic rock,
like I listen to a lot of things, and it
kind of sucks because like they're just me going somewhere

(06:16):
else with the influence. Thing like I feel like my
influences pushes me to make as salace. It's called it
urban pop, you know, and it sometimes can't get confused
and people be like, oh, you're a rapper. I'm like,
I don't think I'm a rapper. I'd be doing no
bars whatsoever, like hell, and I'm not that witty. And
it sucks because like I've getting some people telling me like, oh, bro, like,
do you feel like you be like you're a culture vulture.

(06:36):
I'm like, nah, bro, Like, I'm just me, Like I'm
actually trying to make pop music.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know what's interesting.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I would classify you not even as a rap because,
for instance, I get asked about Blasts all the time
from people that's not from the West Coast, And every
time they ask me he's Blast a rapper, I'm like, no,
Like he's a singer.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I said, Now, really I consider him to be more
like a vocalist. That's what I think you are.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's that's what I think too. We're just we're
just people making music. Were just we're just artists. I
really just think it's just being an artist. I don't
know how do.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
You tap into it? Is there an Arizona or a
Phoenix sound. And if so, how do you tap into that?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's definitely not Arizona where. I mean, it sucks that I
even say this, but we're just in shambles. We're just
scrambling like everyone. I think it's too busy trying to
be that guy like you know what I mean, just
trying to be the sound. But recently we've had people
like Samapoku, which he just does his own thing. He's
more of like an afrobeat type of guy, very soulful.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Uh, there's a ship, I mean somehow since smarw Sin
is not from there, but shit, I've known tomar Sin
like for like a few years now, and she from
there and she has her own fucking sound. She's killing
it right now, she going crazy. And then there's me,
and then there's everybody else just either they want to
sound like they're from Chicago, they're from Atlanta, or they're
even from here here, you know what.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, everybody that every region deals.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But it's cool though, the fact that out here it's
like like like even when we're in Arizona, it's like, oh,
throwing some West Coast ship, which we're considering stuff from
La which I think is so cool, or like I
think it's even cool, like oh, bro throwing some drill
ship from the East coast, You know, I think that's
so fucking cool to me. Where in Arizona is like
I don't know, I don't even know actually what we
would say, like ship, I don't know, Yeah, so desert ship.

(08:22):
I don't fucking know.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
But do you feel a responsibility to create that sound
or you just worried about making music and people gravitate to.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Who you are? Now?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
My my responsibility to me is just to keep doing
this and somehow find a way across some cool people
like you guys just still surviving, maintain this beautiful wait
you feel me, make sure my mom's good, all kinds
of shit like that. That's my responsibility to myself. I
can care less about trying to take over a little
pond when I want the whole fucking ocean.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, I wanted to. I mean, I can't shout out
to our guy people. He was feeling this. I wanted
to start.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Off that guy.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, he is a great guy, beautiful man. Okay, go
get it close upon that. I wanted to give you
a hug, man. I wanted to give you a hug.
I'm not gonna move out of frame, but I wanted
me to come to you.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I mean, I feel like you need this new album,
got to leave back, just kidding, that's wild, this new album,
bringing in, bringing in.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I feel like you need the hug though, man, yeah,
yeah right? Who can I run to?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh? That's what the hug?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I tell you why?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I feel like there's a lot of a lot of
you know, there's heartbreak, there's loyalty issues, there's a lot
of this that is this all within things that's going
on in your life?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
And and so who the fuck are you trying to
run to?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
But that's that's the question about it is like who
can I run to? Is just more of like after all,
like like you said, maybe the loyalty things, or after
like turning up going to a club, after this, this
and that and after I saw set them done, whatever,
you're by yourself, Like who can you actually run to?
Like who's really there? And that's why if you know
it's on the project, it starts off like just really
up tempo and it ends up slow and the last

(09:58):
song is called Lonely on the Moon, you know what
I mean. So I don't know it's more of a question.
You know, I haven't. I feel like I've answered that
question for myself. You know, I actually, luckily feel I
have a bunch of people. They might not be happy
that I run to them, but you know, luckily I can.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
At least you got that.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's what I was kind of going with it is,
you know, hearing the album and kind of hearing the
different vides that you go.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You like, I kind of get up that that emo
feel as well.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
But you know, I feel like if you answer that question,
that's awesome, that's all.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
But I'm not emo because I'm sad or I don't
try to be that. I feel I like to be
vulnerable because I feel I'm a person where I like
to call my friends and be like after I hang up, hey,
I love you. I'm a motherfucker that really checks on
my friends that I know will be in their room
by themselves or just they be going through shit. I
like to say, bro, you're good, and I try my
best to like, hey, bro, like you want to hang
out and they be I know they be in there

(10:46):
on handershit and that's why I try to be. I
just want to be a person where it's like bro,
it's cool to reach out and be like hey, bro,
like let's hang out, let's do something, or it's cool
to tell somebody you love them, like that's that's what
I wear, right Yeah, yeah, demo. Yeah, I considered em
just being.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is the time.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I mean a lot of people look at it that said,
but it's emotional, and you're an emotional person and that's
not a bad thing. It's it's actually a good thing
because you're vulnerable, you're able to display that. And it's
funny that you know the project cannot run to because
I feel like you're the ultimate person that.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
People can run.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
So, yeah, they're going through stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
You're asking this question, but you're you're ultimately that that
guy as well.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
No, yeah, for sure, girl, who you talking to him?
Like so so and so, so and so going on.
She's like it's been two hours so so and so
be so so and so and man.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
So you think that do you think that that is
something that's sustainable though, because I think the more people
you get to.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Know, the harder that is.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I've been able to cut my circle, I've been able
to really I know who I want to That's why,
like I feel that's why I like being over here.
I feel me over here out here in l A
like not being home because I'm a people pleaser. I
know that I like to accommodate everybody. I like to
make sure that everyone else is happy before I'm happy.
That's who I am. But the thing is, like now

(12:03):
I realize, like I just want to make people happy
that make me happy. I want to fucking make sure,
like you know, like how they say growing up, treat
people how you want to be treated. That's how I
treat people. And I realized, like, some motherfuckers fucking suck.
Like I've I've been friends with some people, and as
I've matured a few years, I realized, like there's some
people i'm friends where I'm like, bro, they look key,
are not good people. I'm not gonna tell them that though,

(12:23):
because I'm gonna let them keep doing their thing. But
I'm just like I might, I might see it, and
I'm like, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But when you cut yourself off, do you cut yourself
off from or do you let it continue to go?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I mean I cut myself off pretty much from it,
Like I'm just back. Yeah, I'm just like I'm good,
Like I'm.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Fine, when is the point where you find that you
have to let them know, like if they're being detrimental
to themselves.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think everyone has a little bit of common sense
and they realize like like no, no, no, I think
everyone I've dealt with and maybe everything everyone ill with.
You know, I've never had to verbally be like, hey, bro,
I don't fuck with you no more.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah there we go. I know you're doing du yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
In the music, I'm like, oh shit, who is that for?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, speaking of it, please, this is what we call
a sege, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
The Defended song is one of my favorite songs on
the project.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
When I first time I heard it, I'm like, this
shit is hard, and it's not even the fact that
you expressing yourself with whoever you're getting expressing yourself too.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
But I think everybody has that story.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Everybody feels like that, like, bro, you've mis played your
hand me personally, me and me and you know, my
team were dealing with someone who monetized our relationship and
they wanted like five thousand dollars for something that they
did they did. I gave her a five thousand dollars,
but it was like now you monetize the relationship, so

(13:46):
now I can't. Now it's just now, it's just that.
So now now that it's just that, Okay, I'm paying
for services rendered.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Now that's all it is. There is no relationship now
for beyond that right now. For sure, I.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Feel like a lot of people misplay that, like if
you don't necessarily see the opportunity that's in front of you,
or you might be a team player yeah and then
be like, oh well now I need I need to
get paid for x ys and it's like everybody needs
to live.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, But what I.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Took from that song was it wasn't necessarily your personal experience,
and I took from You can speak of that if
you want to, but I took from it that's something
that's relatable.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
And that's goes like to what you just said, like
you make relatable ship.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know for sure? I mean yeah, everything you just
said I feel like categorizes that song beautifully. And I
feel that's why I speaks to a lot of people,
because everyone I've showed that song to, even before I
was out, it was like, brother, let me hop on that,
let me hop on that. Like I probably can show
you ten different versions and ship, you know, And I
was just like, I don't know what's funny? Too is

(14:47):
like in all honesty, Z was Homie Hancho. I don't
know what the fuck it is about this guy, but
I just I fucking love that.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Great guy.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
He'll call me out of nowhere. He's like, what a
gang out here with Wifey? Can we hang up? You
want to hang out? Trying to pull up on you.
I was like, I with Wifey and she kind of
just wants to hang with me right now, but no,
it would just be chopping it up like that. There's
been times when we'll call each other literally, like like
in a ten minute span, like three times, just just

(15:17):
just laughing and ship, just just doing ship. But that's
why everybody else that I had on that on that
record was like I was just like, like I feel
like we we've already made a song together.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Like you know, you stop moving in your chair, you
fuck up the view.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'm sorry, let me pull chuck.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
You told me to sit back and relax on. Let
the people see.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Okay right here, right here, Damn this stance is not
moving continue boom. But you know, and then like for
some reason, like I just thought it was just so
organic and cool that Hancha got on it because like
that fool has never asked me for ship. He's never nothing,
and he's always just been like, hey, bro, the pull
up on you. Hey, let's hang, let's whatever. And there's
been times where I'm like like, hey, I'm busy. Never

(15:58):
fucking felt weird, like all right, cool, dam I feel
like just on some girl. Man, shit, this is like bro,
It's like me and my boy Benji over here. Like
there's times where I'm just like, yo, this hang. He's like,
I gotta I gotta mount this TV bro. I'm like
I can help you. I got to mount this TV bro.
But nah, that's just but.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's like it.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know. Do you think that people Do you think
that people understand in the moment that they're playing their hand?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes and no. I think emotions blind people. I feel
like I feel like definitely people money blinds people. I
feel like people's actual intentions blind them as well. Like
I don't think people see like I have this convo
like even with Sallas, like I'm just like I'm just
a genuine ass person I feel, and like you said,
I wear my heart on my sleeve. Like the fact

(16:45):
y'all came here, I'm super fucking thankful. I want to
make sure i'm here before you to accommodate you, make
sure you're good blah blah, because you didn't have to
fucking do this, you know what I mean? And it's like,
what the fuck I look like looking like an asshole
being late on you and fucking this and that. But yeah,
I definitely feel some people definitely misplay their hand because
of bullshit.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
When when it.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Comes to songs, do you always pull from personal experiences?
Because you spoke earlier about people rapping about shit they
don't have? I also heard I forgot which song it was.
I meant to write it down, but during the listening
you played it and you were talking about a girl
whoever desired?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, I forgot what talking about? Hotel I hotel I.
Sometimes I make songs just for like.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
But that's why I'm asking, is it always pulled from
personal or is it aspirational?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's fifty fift's I guess it's third. That's a third
of all it all. It's like one could be manifesting
like I don't know if you notice I always talk
about a tesla like I'm going to funk about Ferrari
or that I want to fucking Tesla and like because
that's just cool. I mean sure by the time I
get it, I won't be able to like not drive it,
and like it's just gonna drive itself, because I think
you were talking about how it's gonna have a camera

(17:56):
on you now or something.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
You drive itself now, it's to do it.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Want to do that, That's why I want it.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I want.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, the car in general's life changing. I don't
even got one.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
So, but but speaking on stuff like that, right, and
I'm gonna go specifically the hotel lobby when you're talking
about these things that either you're trying to manifest or let's.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Go, let's go with the manifest right, But to me,
I can actually explain to you how how I made that.
It's actually sometimes there's times where like I know, there's
a cool motherfucker in the room and they want to
make a cool song, and in my head, I'm just like,
I can make you what I want to make you,
and you probably won't like it because I know that's
not where your head's at. So I'm like, you want

(18:40):
something cool, I'm.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Gonna give you something cool the people, please.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah you feel me? Yeah, But also I'm like, I
just know good music, so like that that's not.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
But especially as a writer for somebody that's written as well,
like that's something you have to get into that bag.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
There's nothing wrong with that. I was I always look at.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
It from a personal side as well, because you know,
you smoke on your lady.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
You know, I'm not trying to manifest two women at
the hotel when like, but she knows what's because five
we we be talking about ship. We be talking about ship.
And then she'd be like like she's at a point
now where she doesn't get mad and it's cool because

(19:19):
I'm like we've talked about a little bit. I'm like,
I'm like, no, I'm watch like you in your fucking
underwear eating lucky charms, watching fucking chick click on TV
right now, Like I know I know what the you
ain't doing. I was like, you fucking damn you have
a stroke when you when you're in front of ten people,
Like what you're gonna do? Honestly, I fucking sucking from
the people, bro, Like I need Yeah, there's no way

(19:42):
that could ever happen, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Cool now do you want no? I'm still I'm just
still on on that because I think that's an interesting
perspective to have, especially somebody that's entertainment in this business.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
How do you deal with that if you if you.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Deal anxiety or you know, a people person to that extent,
how do you maneuver through this, especially with the album
roll out, having to go here, having to go there,
do different shows.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I felt, I feel now I've just I've honestly the
shout out to sellas I me real like, this is
the first time I really feel like I just be
myself and like I've never had He's never questioned me
to be nothing. It's craziest thing ever. He's like, hey,
you want this, I'm like and in my head he
and he's like, he's like, I know you want to
say yes, but but you could say no. And even

(20:30):
if it accommodates everybody, I'm gonna make sure they all
do that shit for you. And like, now that's been
in the back of like in the back of my head,
I'm like, all right, cool, cool, I'm like I could
still be me, but there's certain things now where I'm
just like, nah, I don't got to do that. I'm cool.
I'm cool, you know what I mean. So now, like
like I just did Genus thing, right, I've did a
Kess thing, and I feel like, if you can tell,
there's a few podcasts I've done before where I'm like

(20:52):
talking like this like cool. Yeah, I'm trying to like
because that's what I see. But now I realize, like.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Wait, bro, like and the image.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Like if I want to cry on camera, I'm a
sucking crown camera. It's okay, here's the Joys clicks to. Yeah,
it gets.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
The people going. It gets the people going.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, your perspective, well, there's a couple of things I
want to talk about when it comes.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
To the album. But the what is like, okay, well
shot the cypress to.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I want to shott the cypress right, No, nice man
for the with the Hotel Ivy thing too. But when
it comes to your selection and production, this album is
produced really well, Like I feel like the sonic of
it is cohesive. I got to hear like this and
p you will play me ship like this and pieces
and study or whatever. But I think once once it

(21:45):
was finalized, I'm like, Okay, this is your sad. Was
that something that you thought of ahead of time or
you can't y'all came up with it in real time.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I would say, it's more like like you Sylas, everyone
coming in hearing it and I I listen like yeah,
like I listen like I'm just like I'm not gonna
be like okay, like you know, like I just I
just like making the music. And that's the thing I'm
not gonna lie is that I definitely need somebody to
help me, like be like, hey man, you should you

(22:12):
should do that, because I'm gonna do every beat you
play me a beat, I'm loaded up.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm gonna do every beat, even if it's.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Trash, I'm gonna do it. I'm not gonna hurt someone's feelings.
Not just kidding, but I don't like it. If not,
there's times where like I don't like it, I won't
do it. But even if it speaks like it's like,
hey man, we kind of need an uptempo record right now,
we need something in this BPM, I know that, But
then I might hear something that's completely far left ballad
and it's speaking to me. I'm like, let me just
do that real quick, though, you know, what I mean.

(22:40):
And that's the thing is like it always kind of
heads to that, so I kinda I kind of definitely
need somebody to be like, uh, hey, let's let's do this,
to let's do this, let's do this, because I just
like making the music. I'm not I'm not here to.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Fucking like I'm the talent. Just be talent, I guess.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
So, I guess yeah, I just want to make music
and have fun and be drunk.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Now on the album, is you talk about you make
these references a lot when it comes to promeanthess and
peels and stuff like that and drinking and drinking. Right,
that's all over the album. That's not just one specific song,
like that's through. That's all through the album when it
comes to that type of stuff. Do you worry about

(23:19):
health or do you even think about that when it
comes to real life application of those things?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
How old are you me?

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm a beautiful twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
You not thinking about that shit? That's true?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
But in all honesty though, like I talk about it
because ship I really dealt with Like I really like,
at one point I thought that shit was so cool.
I be real, Yeah, I thought it was cool, right,
and that like that's oh ship, Yeah, let's letip some
lean and this, this and that. Now it's like I
enjoy I'm not gonna lie enjoy it like it's cool,
but I don't do it. I'm be honest with you,
like I have not bought a like a bottle of

(23:55):
alcohol and I don't know how many years.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Really really yeah, oh but you try to get it
for free.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, I get it for free.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
They I haven't thought it at all, but I get
it for free.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
But you know, but that's what I'm saying though, like
I don't even do that, like or I don't. I
don't like you know, people just always whatever. And luckily
I'm smart now where I'm just like nah, I'm good.
Like like I'll be telling a lot of people. It's like, bro,
when I'm at the crib, I put on everything I love,
not one drop of alcohol, not want nothing. The worst
thing I'm gonna do is consume some hash Browns or
some ship.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
You know what I mean, like Igal because he talking
about I don't know what the hash browns. I'm forty.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
You're saying, it's just yesterday I needed a quick breakfast
because I had a rush.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Potatoes hashed potatoes.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Fridge and I'm like, what's in here? And I just
see a box of hashbrowns. I'm like, me, pops six
of them, bitches.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
In real he using words that I don't. I got you.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
He talked about hash brown potato, potato come off the
ground exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
It's not they know, no strain of weed, saying how
you feel them?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
But yeah no. But so like, I'm not gonna lie.
I'll admit it. I partake here and there if I'm
feeling it, like like yeah, fuck it, why not? Why not?
But That's what I'm out and about. And I'm just
having a cool time. And I feel like I've learned
now to be like, no, I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I don't need that. I don't need that right now.
So I feel good.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
That's a that's a good mentality to have, as long
as you're understanding it. Again, you're talking to too old here.
I've been sober almost eight years. I've been where you're at.
And I know you don't even you never even heard
a drunk drunk chuck is a whole whole nother different thing.
But so I seen you you probably have I see
you where I was at that time when I started

(25:46):
to make the decision to kind of cut it off.
And one of the things I started realizing, it's not
appreciy moment, not to say, hey, you need to stop
doing this and that, but I noticed that a lot
of people end up coming back to this way where
it's like they slow down and just realize that moderation
is the better way to go versus hand.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, no, for sure. And like I said, I think
it's more of just about my my like when I
drink and stuff, it's just comfortability. Like if you notice
I'm not sweating, I'm not talking, Hey, I need a
bottle before they get here, Like I don't have there's
no cup in my hand because I'm actually comfortable like
around you guys, like I'm And the thing is, like,
it's not Sometimes it's not that I'm not comfortable because
I don't know the person. It's just maybe me like

(26:25):
trying to understand this ship, you know what I mean,
because a lot of times I be forgetting like oh wow,
like I actually am doing ship. Yeah, Like I'll be
forgetting that Zo is that motherfucker And people from Arizona
like how the fuck you get a song with Zo,
I'm like, that's my that's my manager's artist too, Like
that's just the cool guy. But yeah, so I not

(26:46):
just be forgetting that ship and like, and I think
a lot of it is too. Is I've had the
records with t Pain, I've had the records with Whiz
and Snuff like that. But it is how I see
it though, Like you would think as like an artist,
like oh, you get a song with those people, You're
out of here. Yeah, where's my tesla.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Man's That's the average perception is once you do this
or you do that, then you.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Go to the next level and rich.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
But like after this, I'll salads like, bro, let's get
the next one going, Like I'm not trying to wigh
and see if this shit does it for me. Let's
let's keep it going.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
When it comes to you, I'm glad you've spoken on
this as far as a moderation thing when it comes
to consumption and stuff like that. But also like we
just talked to Schoolboy Q right, and he talked about
having crazy withdraws going through Like have you had any
crazy like withdrawal stories or anything like where you had
a close call or maybe an over consumption or you
remember a day or.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I hate to say this, like this sounds like like
so I'm gonna say two things about this. I have.
I feel a very strong fucking mind, Like a very
strong mind. And there's times where like I see people
like be fucking doing some shit and they're like and
freaking out, like I got a hospital. I'm like, what
he's going through? And then what I'm like, probably been
going through that ship for two days and I thought
it was normal, but like, you know what I mean,

(28:05):
But like in my head, I'm like, oh, you're good, bro,
you're just dehydrated or your this, this and that. Right,
So I mean maybe that, but also, uh was gonna say,
I'll be forgeting ship, but like, yeah, I don't. The
craziest withdraw or craziest thing that's ever happened to me
off any substance is weed, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
That's why I smoked.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Everything. Bro, Like I don't I don't be knowing, I hope, So.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Now you don't play with me because I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I remember. I just remember I worked at Carls Junior.
A long time ago. I worked at Carls Junior. And
this is the time, like I was low key staying
on my homies couch in his garage. In mind that
this garage is disgusting. He has like ten dogs and
they probably.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Pissed the ship all over.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But this is where I was staying at the time, Bro,
you know, this is where I was staying. Judging it
just mind, like I just want to paint the picture.
And I'm getting off work at Carls Junior and I'm
being nice. I'm like, I'm making twenty cheese double cheeseburgers
to take back home so like to feed like his
whole fami and shit in mine and I'm a fucking
I'm pretty much like, what's seventeen years old at this time,

(29:08):
eighteen whatever? And I go and like we're smoking. I
hit it once, I hit the blunt once.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I just go like this, oh shit, and.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm just like and then I know where I hear like,
I'm like what the fuck? And I'm like, all right,
just close your eyes, good pal, Bro.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And then I'm like, I'm like maybe it gets hungry.
I try to eat the burger. I'm just I can't
eat this. And then I just remember closed my eyes.
I'll just go to sleep. As I go to sleep,
it would literally feel like I kept falling, like actual falling, yeah, bro,
and like yeah, and the falling and falling and falling.
And then at one point I was like oh shit,
and then like and I'm like hey bro. Like at
the time, you know, I was like, no, homeo, bro,

(29:47):
feel my heart. He's like, bro, I was like, feel
my heart. He goes. He's like, oh no, that mother
fucking beating bro. It's crazy. And after that, like I
stopped smoking. Never never smoked.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Really yeah, I don't smoke.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I haven't smoked, And fuck, like do you years?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
So do you think that had that experience, You've had
that experience with a lead or a peel or something
else you might've had the same way you like, I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, I just never. But also I'm not a
fucking I'm not a fucking I'm gonna pop ten fucking zans.
Zan's like, I'm not gonna lie to you. If I
pop a zan, I'm gonna crush a little quarter. I'm
gonna ingest it and it's gonna be cool, like like
that's how I would do it, you know what I mean?
That's because to me, I was just like I'm really
taking this for what it's meant for, like in my head,

(30:29):
and I know I have anxiety.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
And then have you ever been diagnosed with ADHD?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
What have you been prescribed anything?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So I think this kind of sucked me up. So
I actually went to like this little rehab like mini
Juvie type situation because in high school I kept getting
in trouble and I questioned everything, like.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I'd be like what kind of trouble like talking back or.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Like no, like I'd be like why the fuck I
gotta go to like why are you sending me to
class right now? Or no. We had any thing called sweep,
so if you were a in it late, they'd send
you into the room like this all white, and you
would just look in front of you the whole that
whole class period, and that's all you do. You didn't
gonna get to work on work, no homework, no nothing.
You just did that. And that would happen to me
all the fucking time. By a minute, and I'm like

(31:15):
I'm like what the fuck you know, like cause I'm
I like, talk to my friends whatever the fuck, And
they kept doing that, And then I got to a
room like, why the fuck am I going to this ship?
I ended up going the first time I ever watched
The Avengers, they did that shit. To me, I said,
fuck that shiit. The Avengers just came out. I walked
to the nearest fucking movie theater and I'm in that bitch.
I watched Avengers. I came back, I went to class.

(31:35):
The principal was like, Alexis, where were you? We were
all looking for you. I was like, I'll take it
a ship. She was like, she's like, what do you mean.
She's like, we looked everywhere I said. She was like
she was where were you? I was like, I take
my ships like this. Were talking about it helps, I
swear to God. But she also loved me. She was
that principal that like I.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Think she knew.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
She's like I remember her telling my mom to her face.
She's like she's like, look, I know Alexis is a
half foid. I don't know how, but he's gonna be
something one day. And I remember her saying that and
like that kind of boost. I'm like, I fucking know
that ship too, because like to me, I was like,
why can't I go get lunch at Wiener Schnitzel, I
this salad when winter Stinzel's right across the street. So

(32:15):
they just be like that. I'm like, Bro, I came back.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
So when you when you got prescribed Yeah, I mean
what they prescribed you.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Bro by vance seventy five milligrams five vance is like
a heavier like adderall. And they gave me the biggest
doe seven seventy five before you could even like they
didn't even test it out on me. And now that
as I'm an adult, I think about that legal seventeen Yeah,
so check this out. At the time, then, like the

(32:44):
I kept getting in trouble in school and ship first
Stu Bro, I got in trouble because I used to
wear Enjoy like yeah yeah, and they they would just
be like, no, you can't wear that. I'm like, Bro,
I'm not I'm not wearing the pandas fuck it was no.
I went just the just the regular public. I don't
know what they just I don't fucking know what it was.
It just like I think what it was too is

(33:05):
I pull up in class and I passed all my
all my ship, like bro, like I remember when we
were learning about Alexander the Great and like all Christianity
and Ship. I'm like, bro, I know about Prince Charlemagne's
friend Christianity bed the store. I know about all these
motherfuckers doing because I like shit like that, Like I
liked it, So I feel that kind of pissed them off.
I don't know, but yeah, So I just remember I
went I went to to that that person's spot and

(33:29):
they just kept like up in my dosage and ship
like that. And one time my mom I remember, she's like, hey,
you want to go to Panda Express. You have a
doctor's appointment. And in my head, I'm like, you want
to go Panda Express? You never like taking it somewhere
it's and I'm just like, I was like I would
love Panda Express. I fucking love Panda And she's like
and then afterwards you got dinas appointment and I said,
oh so I'm thinking it's the same ship. I'm like,

(33:50):
all right, cool go. We ended up driving like two
hours like.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Far, and we bro.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I walk into this place and I turned her and
I'm like, ah, for on my phone and they're like
it's okay, you don't need it to be quick. I'm like, no,
I'm gonna get it. I try to open the door.
It's locked, and I'm like I'm looking like, oh, we're closing.
That's why I was like, all right, I go in there.
I didn't come out for a whole month. Get them
and guess what, my doctor in there was my doctor
out on the outside.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
So you were committed. Yeah, okay, So what was this facility?
What was it?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
It was like all these bro It pissed me off
because my mom submitted me and in my thing it
said because of weed. And at that time, I was like,
I don't even smoke weed.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
What okay? But what what kind of facility was?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
It was like all these kids, bro, Like just all
these kids like from it ranged from literally like nine
years old to seventeen years old, because once you're eighteen,
they there's this guy in there that while I was there,
he's eighteen. They was like, you just got to go,
and they let him out on the street, bro.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
And it was kid mental health faciling.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I think it was like kind of mental health fish
for drugs or some shit because the rehab, yeah, kind of.
Because there's a kid in there with track marks bro
on his in the middle of his toes that was
like fifteen years old and I was like, how is
this possible? And the air was looking at me like, bro,
like why the fuck are you here? And bro, And
it's so funny because all of the counselors and everything
were literally like d one athletes. They used to be

(35:10):
pro like that ship was crazy. Bro like that was all.
And they looked at me like, yo, you're good, Like
what the fuck you here for?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
So did you so when you got to the facility,
they assessed you and all, yeah, they gave you a prescription.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
You already have my prescription already before you went there.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah. So that's the thing that that's everyone there, Like
I never thought of it because I was still a child,
but everyone there literally like made it a thing where
like that's weird that your doctor in here, which is
the doctor which he gets paid for every child, was
my doctor on the outside. Yeah, And like I watched
all these movies about like pharmaceuticals and ship. Bro, these

(35:48):
doctors were getting paid how much to prescribe a certain drug?
And then I'll be watching this ship. I'm not going
a lot brock teer up. I'm like I was really
a fucking like a part of this. I'm not even
cry right, now, bro, thinking about that shit is like
they really I feel fucked up my whole system by
giving me this fucking drug. Bro, Like I really feel
that because then then after I got out of there,

(36:10):
I still kept getting in trouble, like when I wasn't
even doing shit, like I never went to like jail,
never did nothing crazy, you know what I mean. And
my mom sending me to San Jose and then like
so they're keeping it going. They send me to this doctor.
That doctor's like, why the fuck are you prescribed this ship?
And it gives me like the smallest dose and that
was fine. Damn.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So do you think so he was getting kicked back
for sitting kids?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, I definitely think so. And then that place ended up.
That place ended up closing down like years later, and
Ship for like a whole fucking like scandal and ship
like that.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Do you think that the doc there's a Netflix, Yeah
like that, there's facilities like that.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
But my question to you is you said they prescribed
you to max dosage or this yeah drug advance.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
It was a blue orange drug.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Do you how do you feel like that fucked you up?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I feel like because at the time I remember just
having like a suicidal thoughts. I wouldn't fucking eat everything,
And now that I think about it, like, I do
believe that a lot of the ship I did as
a kid, or any drug I did, has affected me now,
and I feel that's why I'm so anxious. I'm so nervous,
and I feel that drug specifically fucked me up because
as a child, I don't think you should be on

(37:17):
that ship like that's developer, yeah, bro, Like I remember
I passed out twice from lack of eating, you know
what I mean. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
So you weren't eating in the because no.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Not in the facility like before, like that from this drug.
Like I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat because it's pretty
much like fucking mes or something in a little capsule.
I don't fucking know. And that's why even to this day,
I actually don't even take out of all.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
So did yo? Mom greenlight?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
She's thinking, she's thinking it's helping you, like, especially if
it's from the doctor. If they saying we can prescribe
this medicine because he has ADHD.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
This is a good facility for him. Not knowing the doctor,
they have this whole ship plan.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
My mom is just trying to get you know, her
first child. She didn't know what was going on, and
all these teachers are telling her that I'm just this
bad kid, and she liked that. So what else you
supposed to think? And my whole thing was like, Mom,
I'm not fighting nobody. Mom, I'm not getting caught with drugs.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
If let's say, let's say all the shit that was
going on with the medical facility, your mom, you were misdiagnosed, whatever,
what do you think was actually going on with Alexis.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I think I was just a child. I think I
was sixty years old, hyper as fucked Like yeah, Like
I think I was just being a kid. And I
just feel like myer my curiosity was different, Like, Bro,
I remember, there's no reason why I was ten years
old singing Frankie Lyman in my head, Like I always
liked shit, Like I liked learning shit, Like I learned
the guitar by myself.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
The musical was already played a part of THEE as
a kid.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, Bro, I liked I loved the music. Bro, I
loved everything. I just loved learning things, if that makes sense,
Like I just learned learning things. I didn't know about
and like I learned how to play the guitar by myself.
I know how to play the harmonicaboutself. I like fourteen
fifteen years old, you know. And that's just because like
I wanted to learn it. I thought it looked fucking cool.
So yeah, So did.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
You have more of a if you had to balance
it out right or it? Did you have more of
a knack for one to learn things or did you
have more.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Of a knack for music?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I would say learn things, yeah, yeah, music, because I think,
like to be good at like music, gotta be good
at math. I don't think I'm good at math, but
I'm good at feeling ship. I feel that's not crazy.
But like no, because like when I when I'm like
make music, bro, I don't. I don't be counting whatever.
I'll just I'll just go in and I'll do it.
And sometimes I'll like I can't get on the beat

(39:33):
for the first five minutes for some weird reason, I'm like, funk,
why am I fucking up? But that's not because I'm
like thinking of the beat. I'm just feeling the feel
like it's weird as fuck. So I think I just
I don't know, just like learn things, and it just
so happens that I just love music.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
That's a crazy story. That's a WHI I never heard.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
I mean I've heard of it, but I don't know,
like we've never talked about that, so I don't know
people personally.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Have gone through that.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I definitely got some fucking crazy stories to tell you,
bro Like, I feel like my life has been a movie,
bro Like, and even the Love Aspect or whatever. Like,
I'm gonna be real with you. I remember being sixteen
years old and I was heartbroken over this girl. I
break into my parents liquor bottle and a liquor cabinet.
I drink a whole ball of tequila to myself, right,

(40:17):
why why my ass? Get on a scooter, a Razor scooter,
and fucking for six point five miles scooter to this
girl's house and I'm just dogget like, hey, she's like,
you gotta go. And then, bro, I swear to god,
I could I remember this ship perfectly. I don't know
why the fuck, and I remember being sad, so I
get my scooter. I don't even write it back home, bro,

(40:39):
I walking home, and I just remember listening to the
color purple like on repeat.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Bro the color.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Wait gonna show Dad flirt?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, color purple? Yeah, I love that song and I
still listen to the Color.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I think it's just that nice. There was this guy,
I think it's Burnel Taylor on American Idol that sang it,
and I really liked this song and it was like
got my house, It's still key, still cold out like
and for some reason I loved that song. I was like,
this shit is amazing.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
When did you realize that this was something that you
wanted to pursue. You said you had a knack for
learning like music and play guitar harmonica.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
When did you realize, oh.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
When it is something I could do? When it fell
in my lap, I guess like I started so when
I was sixteen, still I couldn't get a job. So
I ended up taking my yuk and my guitar in
front of Ross and I was singing for money.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
But you would already touch itself.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah yeah, But and I tried it and it worked right,
So it's still at this point I'm thinking nothing of it.
Then I do fast forward to the brown Boy Madge
make that broke boy song. It works, And then some
guy like was like Hey, man, I think it's cool
he wants to manage me. Whatever, cool, bla whatever, blah
blah blah blah. I moved to Vegas, and in Vegas,
I'm probably what twenty years old at the time, twenty
one years old, and I'm working two jobs to like

(42:00):
have a little apartment out there and ship by myself,
and on top of that fun my music that I'm
trying to do. And then out of nowhere, keV hits
me was like, hey bro, I want to manage you.
And I'm like, oh shit, like this is.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Vegas at the time.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
No I think Tampaka or no in La. I think
he's doing in La and I'm like, oh shit, like
it's fucking bout leg k cool. And then at first
I was like, nah, I'm good bro, like you know,
because I'm just like.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I got im straight.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, but I'm a loyal person. That's just who I am.
I'm like, they got you or like this situation got
you to notice me, so we're doing something right. But
then those foods at the time, I think I weighed
one hundred and ninety five pounds and they're like, you're
getting a little big. We donna need you to lose weight,
and they're like, we're gonna stop shooting music videos and
this and that if you pass the two hundred mark.
And I'm like, what the who the fuck are you

(42:49):
telling me what I can and cannot eat. So I
was like at that minute, akt I imagine me? He said,
and I remember, hold on, let me get to two twenty.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I got.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
So I remember Kevin like, you still want to imagine me?
He's like he's like, yeah, I said, can you give
me an uber to the to the airport? I use
like all the money I had to get a plane
ticket back from Arizona from Vegas to Arizona, and then
from there I'm back at my mom's and at the time,
I think she thinks I'm responsible and shit because I
lived by myself in Vegas for like almost a damn year.
And from there, like Kevin was like, hey man, we're

(43:24):
gonna go do these things, and he's showing me the
world that I never see, like, oh, we're gonna go
to this concert. Ended up going to a post Malone concert,
and I'm like thinking, oh shit, we're gonna see post Malone.
It's so cool. We go through the back and we're
sitting down and like a little little couches like this
in like the green room. I don't even know what
the green room is. The time post mylone walks in

(43:45):
and I swear to god, I'm like, wait, what the fuck?
Like what and I just remember He's like who. He's like,
who are you? And I'm like, I'm here, I'm here,
I'm here with keV. He's like, oh, let's get weird boy.
And I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Like all right, text, you ain't finish shoot pass. He
was just like, you said you wait listen, bro, were
from l A. Okay, you said you said?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
He said what?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Like like reference, he was like, who are you?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
No, Let's let's get weird boy? What is that from Texas?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Like turn off? Like let's get weird boy, like you know,
let's drink some bod lights and ship. Like That's how
I took it.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
As that's how you took it.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think that's how we took it as you took
it though. I mean that's I took what he said
in the correct manner that I thought it was.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Just ship going on in the music industry. Industry's going
through some ship, right. It was a moment where you
realize and it was a good time.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
And then yeah, fast forward like to the remainder of
the night, like after the like, I'm in the back
of my business. I'm in the back of him performing.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I think this is the coolest the back of him performing.
Bro happening right now, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
What I mean. I'm on the back of the stage, front.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
On the back of the stage watching him before this
cool as fu. I know a dude named stage from
different anyway.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
So then I remember afterwards, Ke's like, you ever been
to International? I'm like, bro, I've never been to a
club in my life. Well, this fool took me like
four clubs and one night, and I thought it was
the cooles shit because we're not winning the line, We're
just going straight in. I'm not knowing this world. I
don't know anything, and I'm like, holy shit, this is cool.
Then he takes He's like, he's like, you've been to Jags.
I'm like, what the fuck is? Jaza takes me to Jags.

(45:32):
It's a strip club the size of a Walmart. And
I'm just like, I.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like it here.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
But yeah, and then after that, I remember he got
me an uber home and as I get home. He's like,
you want to go to Vegas with me tomorrow? And
I'm like, Bro, I got no money. Bro got no
He's like, it's okay, I'll take care of you. And
I'm like, okay, I'm down. So he pulls up on me.
As he pulls up, he's like, actually, can you pack
for like two months to come to California with me.
I'm gonna try to put you in sessions and things

(45:58):
like that. And I'm like, Bro, I don't have money
to like do that. He's like, don't worry. I got you.
I was like, okay, cool, I come out. He's like,
where's all your sha He's like, this is all I got, Bro,
it's a little backpack. We go to Vegas. Bro. After Vegas,
we go to Cali. I meet his wife, his family.
I'm in there. I think I meet you probably like
two days later and I'm now we're here.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
That's amazing. I mean, that's a that's a dope story.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I mean just hearing from from those early beginnings to
you know, where you're getting at to now, Like, what
do you think some of the biggest lessons that you
learned over those times?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Alexis then Brown Boy Madge. You know, so the Alexis
as a kid teenager to brown boy Madge to now
changing the name back to like, how do you feel
like it's full circle?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I think the lesson in general is just like just
go for it. Just go with the flow, just try
like like why not. That's just how I feel like.
I had nothing to lose at the time, and I
just did it. I feel like that's everyone has them
to lose, you know. In my head, it was really
like I don't know. I guess I don't really, I
don't really know what lesson is. It is it's except
for it. Just just go for it.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
You know what I love about this though, is that
we're watching it in real time, so it's like when
you say all these things about being a people pleaser,
and you know, I want to make sure everybody's happy,
which is nothing's nothing wrong with that. I can't wait
to see the evolution. Not a bad way, but just
like when you start to become used to this and
knowing what you want in the sense of like, oh no,

(47:23):
this is final, this is what I want, and really
being accustomed to the lifestyle that you.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Deserve right now.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
You have a talent and you're.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Here for a reason, so it's amazing to see you
really enjoy because you want to get one time for
this ship.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
For the first time. I'm thankful for everything, bro, Like
it's everything's Everything's just cool, Like I don't know, and
like how you said, like just knowing things you want
and things like that, Like I'm personally a person where
I just go for it and I do it, and
like anyone asked me, like, hey, you should pull up
to this ship. Fuck it, Like I might not want to,
but I go and do it. And I've kind of

(47:59):
finally in my head have have realized that, like there's
certain people that I like, I'll invite to want to
go do things because it could be good for them,
and they don't want to. And I'm just like these
are kind of low key to people don't even want
around me anymore to be real, you know, but I
still be trying, you know what I mean. And that's
what I've realized at least where I'm at and just
just all that shit. At least for sure now I
know it's like I know my motherfucker that wants to
be on time to things. I don't want people around

(48:20):
me that don't want to be on time. I don't
want a fuck that likes to try. I don't want
people around me that don't want to try, you know
what I mean. Just that's how I feel when you.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Make the decision to go all in on yourself. Is
that scary for you? Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Not really, because because you described the situation when you
came outside and you he was like keV was like, oh,
just come get in the car and let's go, and
you were like, all right, fuck it, like let's do it.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I mean, what else was I gonna do?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
That's not the same thing, because if you have something
to lose, you don't move. It's free like that, I feel,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
So it's different now, for instance, you walking away now
like you getting up and just leaving and going to
Mexico for too much?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
You think about it?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
You would think about it.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I'd be thinking about it. So I've been thinking about
who doesn't think about it? Sometimes, like things get overwhelming
to me, I'm like, hey, maybe I'll just use like, oh,
this project isn't the reason I blow up. Let me
use an excuse me, Like, hey, guys, I really appreciate
you for putting your time in me. I think it's
best we just go out step of ways because I
don't want to keep wasting your time. But then, like
you know, then I'll be thinking to myself, like, nah,

(49:20):
it's still a process. Let's let's keep it going. At
least we're not like this.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
We're going like this.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
We're going like this because like you said, like I
don't know, I to me, it's back to the people pleaser.
It's back to the making sure everyone's happy. I just
don't want I don't want to make anyone like I
don't I don't fuck. What the fuck is the word.
I don't want to disappoint anybody. That's that's really my
thing that goes in my head. Like it's like it's
not even me. Like you like whatever, bro, Like you

(49:46):
happy with anything you got. You've already low key lived
your like you're living your dreams. Like I think of
it as that, Like I personally feel like I've lived
a million lifetimes compared to like what other motherfuckers is doing.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
She's still so young, bro. I know, man, That's why
I said. I enjoy watching in the process.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Of you, like you know, the bright eyes and just
being able to experience.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I still get some ship.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Don't don't ever lose that about you.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
I guess that's my point because I see a lot
of people that it becomes regular to them in.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
The sense of they get comfortable, get.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Their feed up, and they lose that hunger and that passion.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, yeah, no for sure, but I would keep that. Yeah, no, definitely.
I mean it's like like Wally bro, we just locked
in recently, and to me, yeah, Bro, I'm excited about
that ship. I'm like a lot this will be texting me,
face timing me out of.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Nowhere, and I'm like, I knew that y'all were rock too,
because the Sonics would be like, I think that's gonna
be dope.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Now we got some cool ship. We'll definitely listen to it.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Do you think that now here's a question, right because
as far as from a from a standpoint, there aren't.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Many alectionises that exist in the ecosystem.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
But when I say that, I mean like, there aren't
many Mexican Mexican artists that's that sound like you. I
think you're like one of one, maybe one of two.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
If that apreciate it.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Is that is that something that you plan to lean
more into like you want to put what you want
more people that are like you, Are you cool with
being on the island?

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I mean if if people are like that and like
hit me up or I come across.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Them, like why not like you know, well, you know
a lot of people don't like to share that that
leg once they find their pocket, they don't like to share.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I heard this recently, right, what I fucked with? I
feel number two's are too busy trying to be number one,
and true number ones want number twos to also be
number ones. That's how I feel with that. I feel
like I like that's like my boy tk I brought
him here, like then bring I didn't bring him here,
but I literally pushed like for him to like hey
bro tk t K he could do this, like you know,

(51:39):
I'm at you should come to LA, should come to Lah,
come to l A. You know, like my boy Cyrus
he he's he shoots sh it. I was living at
this place at the time. I didn't have to offer
and even to my roommate at the time be like, hey,
I got a boy that we can like. I didn't
have to do that and put anyone in that uncomfortable situation.
But I want to do it because I want the
best for them. I want I want us all to eat.

(52:00):
I don't want to meet you people along the fuck away.
It's like my boy Benji back there, Like I've known
that food since I was literally like seventeen eighteen years
old too. Yeah, you know, like when we first interacted
on Twitter, like that's a fake ball of henesee, I said, no,
it's fucking not like shit like that, and like he's
a cool person that I still want to keep around,
you know, Like, and it's cool because he's never ever
tried to like come and see what I'm doing. And

(52:21):
everyone sees like I'm in the room with Head, I'm
in the room with keV, I'm in the room with Chuck,
and oh let me go with him because you know whatever,
like him and a lot of people I'm around don't
think that way. And I love that, and that's people
I want around.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
So the people that you cut off, the people on
like him talking about the track, right or just in general, right.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I never cut the person on offended off.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
What I'm saying is that when people hear these songs
that are about them or like it suggests it's about
that do they reach back out to you and say, damn,
I heard that, or do you let them hear the
ahead of time?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Like I'm not gonna lie, I shouldn't say this. But
so that song specifically is it's a situation in a
whole No, hold on, it's not that. And there's these
guys that I work with and I got drunk. You
want there you go?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
You don't have a mic? What do you saying? He said?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Nice guys, those guys, nice guys, those guys. No, but no.
So it's like I'm a person's like, I'm a very
nice guy. And if I feel like Bro, I don't know,
it's something a little weird. If I feel that ship,
that's definitely you kind of you a little Wienie Pool, Bro, big,
we need poop.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
You have a question define wei poo? What the is that?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
It could be anything? It could be it could be
it could be a lame, it could be a weirdough.
I just don't like using those words poos cool because
I want you to feel like an extra wani Pool,
you know what I mean, Like you feel weird, You're.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
You're weird, a regular wini Pool extra we No.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
No, yeah, because if someone calls okay, it's like someone
calls you a pansy. I look like this more for
come your pansy.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Like what no one says that I do. You're would
have won exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
But that's what I say because I want you to
really know, like, sure there's truth, there's truth in humor,
but it's like kind of be in a pansy right now,
my guy. And if they can't wrap your head around that,
it's for a reason.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Somebody, somebody just told me that they were having a
dinner and they're like, yo, if you piss chuck off,
something's wrong with you. The same sense of you, like
if somebody makes you matter, does you wrong? It's like
it's not not your problem.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Is their issue.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
One of my last questions I do when do you
take accountability for ship that you do fuck up on?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Though? So like where where where do you?

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Where is the thing that you're like, Okay, yeah, I
take ownership of that I do fuck up in this department.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I feel like I've always taken a call Billy, I
just never I was just never good at the the
confrontation part. You know. I've always been like, oh I
did fuck up? Like and I know for a fact,
but I'm like, but I don't want I don't want
to like I'll tell you that, Like if the person
comes to me, I'll be like, yeah, bro, I fucked up,
but like I might, I might avoid like having to
say but that was back then. Now I feel like
like now I fucked up, like my bad.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
But now low key I'm backing like AI people.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, I'm making like a weani people. That's saw me
like my bad. Like I think the other night I
did something where I was like, damn, like I shouldn't
have done this, but that's my bad. Bro. I'm a
little faded right now. You know, I'm caught up in
the hype. I'm like, you know, my bad. I'm sorry,
but that's why. Also, I don't leave the cribs. I
don't fuck up.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
You know that's cap everybody fuck up.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Not if I don't leave the crib. At the crib,
I don't funk up at the crib. All what am
I gonna suck up? At the social media?

Speaker 1 (55:24):
It could be anything.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
No, I'm gonna do it. I'm getting there, Okay. You know,
I might fuck up by not I might fuck up
by not leaving the crib. If I got to go somewhere,
but I'll go, but i'll go.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
You sorry, you fucking up by leaving. I told you
everybody up.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
You can't end without alexis doing what.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I'm so sorry I didn't hear you when more talking.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
The year can't end without Alexis doing what? What are
you manifesting of the things that you've you know.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
How he was lying on the record about the designer ship.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
That's called a call back go ahead?

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Nah, I don't know, Tesla.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
I mean I would love that, but I've not focused
on that. I think I honestly don't think about the
future like what I want. I focus on just did
I like today? Let me make sure I don't mess
up today and make sure today I did everything I
had to do low key because I feel like I
get too caught up in that.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Then it's like, but you have to think about like
what your career.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
I don't I don't want to think about because who knows,
maybe because I don't want to set myself up for
like it's disappointing myself, Like oh, because I kind of
already did that like previous with the tea paint thing whatever,
like wis cleaf thing in my head. Oh shit, I
got someone whiz I'm about to be this it's I
don't think it's fear. I think it's just me being
responsible and me not trying to get ahead of myself

(56:46):
or count my chickens before they hatch.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, but that mitigating your expectations and being afraid of different.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
I'm not afraid of it. I know it's gonna come.
I always tell myself it's just a matter of when.
I just don't want to give myself a timeline or whatever,
because let's say it doesn't happen. Let's it could have,
it could happen. Fucking Let's say I wanted. I want
it to happen at the end of December. I want
to be this big ass person, right, but it doesn't happen.
But then I reached December, in January comes like like

(57:13):
fuck it, Like I don't know, But then February it
happens for me.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I'm just gonna take it day by day.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Got it? You know what one of those things that
you're thinking about, so listen, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I just ship fucking me being able to fucking not
have to like always get a new bird. Maybe me
finally ship who knows, Maybe get a license. Finally, I
don't even need to be big for that. You know license?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
No I don't. All right, so yeah we got definitely.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
So you're not from New York. Bro, you're not from
New York. Okay, we need to get a driver's license
an ID.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
You have an ID.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
But that's not my fault's Loki. I kind of used
the no ID as an excuse to not go places sometimes.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
No, you're not, that's the confrontation. You grown an but
I always end up going. Bro, I do I agree?
Get a driver? Do you have shut shutting down?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
So this is my thing though, Like I've actually have
tried to three times.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
No, no, no, listen to what I'm saying. Listen to what
I'm saying. Okay, what's preventing you from getting a driver's license?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I think me personally is I don't like driving in general.
I knows a laziness that I guess lazy. But you
like to learn things I do, But I mean to drive.
I just don't like doing it. I remember having to
drive KEP back one time from Arizona and I hated it.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
You didn't, You didn't allegedly you know what I'm saying, okay,
so let's get a driver's license before the next album.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Okay to be fire.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
He's not gonna do it. He's not gonna do that.
Ship Jesus. Okay, all right, who's gonna run to? Who
can I run to?

Speaker 3 (58:43):
You need to run to the DMVV Alexis.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
We appreciate it. That's why it's not who can I
run to? The d NV? It just likes to run
in general, That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
I don't you know what you know why I want
you to get a license to reasons right, because you're
grown ass man, this is true. And number two, because
you need to go through what we have all gone
through before they changed the system.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
And you send that d m V and funk off
your whole day just like we went. This is more
about us. Yeah, your whole day. Okay, Battery dead MAK
appointments online.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
So before we go to complete automation and elon take
over the d m V, I want you to set
your ass in there like we do.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Stale fundions, stale funions, I love.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Is there anything we didn't mention that?

Speaker 3 (59:27):
You want to make sure that people know whether it's
about the album about you know, things that you've done.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Uh no, I think I'll covered it. I don't know.
Y'all did a great job, some great guys.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Thank you, brother. I appreciate that Alexis get that album
and I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I'm glad we hug. I'm glad I was looking forward
to that.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I'm glad that I was interesting. Said, I'm glad you
told the story about post maloney. That was cool, that
was interesting. Hugging. I'm glad you listen to me, man,
that's a tab Actually, what's that? Nothing? All right? To
Radio Chuck This with Djad Alexis. Appreciate you, brother, to
that time Pound