December 8, 2018 • 53 mins
Joe Lisi, Rich Cirminiello, and Marshall Faulk break down some of this week's notable matchups including Army Vs Navy and Colgate Vs North Dakota. They also provide their expectations for each game and more. #FNTSY #FNTSYRadio #NCAA #CollegeFootball #FantasyCollegeFootball #Army #Navy #Colgate #NorthDakota
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college Football Today, Back on College Back on College Football Today,
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brought here by Beck ds I talking a little bit
about the college Football Bowls, college football off, talking about
Bobby Bush in the off camera discussion. We we know
that the top four teams are already in Alabama, we
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have Clemson, we have Notre Dame, and we have Oklahoma.
But the argument or controversy that really took place was
last Sunday with which team could challenge Oklahoma as possibly
cracking the college football playoff. A lot of people were
on George's bandwagon after they lost that close game to Alabama.
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Others with Ohio State and Urban Meyer winning the Big
Ten championship, and oh there's that school in Orlando. They've
just won straight games conference champions, defeated Memphis u CF.
I mean, it's an intriguing argument, guys, it really is
for me. I think when I break down those three teams, Georgia,
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Ohio State, u CF, I would say I would lean
to Georgia. And the one reason is you look at
their ten wins they came against opponents would have combined
overall record of seventy nine and fifty four. That's a
five winning percentage. When you look at Ohio State, They're
eleven wins came against opponents, would have combined overall record
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of seventy five and eighty two, which was four seventy seven.
And then you have UCF there twelve wins came against
opponents would have combined overall record of sixty five and
seventy which is a four eighty one winning percentage. So
the one knock I have about UCF they only played
eleven games this year, again for the second year in
the row because of a cancelation, so they were twelve
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and all I look at Ohio State, they have that
twenty nine point lost to Georgia, so to produce, so
that stands out but the way Georgia played against Alabama,
to me would give them a nod. Now my question
to you is, if Ohio State loses to Purdue by ten,
does Oklahoma get into the college Football Playoff over the
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buckas Oklahoma's in You mean what Ohio State? Ohio States,
both champions, certainly would have been more palatable. I mean,
I think the fact that it's questionable, think questionable. Only
here's the thing that Texas Oklahoma game, that Oklahoma loss,
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that was a heck of a football game. And and
even even like when when you think about like and
I'm a say, you think about just the Heisman and
what you do Kyler Murray played exception in that game.
He has some turnovers early, but the kid played really
well in that game. I just don't know if if
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even if, I mean it was perdue like that. That's
a rivalry game, and and it could go either way. Emotions,
big plays, where where are you playing? And then they
redeemed the loss because they got a chance to play
them again both on a neutral field too, right, And
and and I would I would still give give it
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to I'd still give it to Oklahoma. I would stick
with Oklahoma. But um, this UCF thing, man, it's you know,
it's it's it. I came from a small schools played
at a small school. It's bothering me. What what it's
saying about the playoff system and and just just uh,
the hierarchy of football and um SEC commissioner came out
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and said, you know, hey, they're schedule this week, blah
blah blah. I don't see any of the m SEC
schools trying to line up UCF for a non conference game.
I don't hear any of them saying, hey, come play us,
We'll do a home in a way, none of them
are trying to play that game. It reminds me of
Boise State. Boise State had the problem in the past
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where Boise was, you know, regardless of what they did
under Chris Peterson, you know, they weren't going to get
into a BCS of a discussion and nobody wanted to
play that team. I mean, and that's what happens. And
it go was to Gonzaga in basketball. You could talk
about it at any level. You know, nobody wants to
face UCF, and which which makes for some interesting story.
All the power of five conferences. This is exactly this
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is how they manipulate how to keep their teams in
the bowl. If you if you, if you allow one
you CEEF team to get in, then who says that
some small San Diego State don't have a chance or
once you allow one team to get in because of
you know who they played. You know, it's like and
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I say this, and I mean no disrespect to the
rest of of the teams, but the Patriots play the
A f C s every year and those three teams
they've been bad for a long time. We don't, we
don't say anything to them. You play the teams that
are on your schedule. You get to pick some nonconference games,
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and and we don't get mad at Alabama for playing Troy.
We don't. We don't get you know, they you you
play some scre teams that kind of get get where
you want to get in conference. So let's not knock
them because I don't see those those those Power five
teams order SEC teams trying to schedule U c F. Yeah,
that's a great point. Although Florida did come out after
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all this controversy and said what we be willing, but
they haven't done it yet to do a home and home,
So that's the first you understand what that would mean
for Florida. Of course they would lose recruits. They already
they're already having an issue them in Florida state with
getting Florida's top players. You would really lose out if
you lose to UCFREE. There's there's no win in it
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for Florida. Well, to to Marshall's point, I think the
only way to rectify this situation, guys, and I know
you don't like it, is to expand the playoffs. You're
not getting UCF in with four four. And I think
Marshall brings up a great point because I do feel
the kids are deserving. The problem I have is because
it is amateurism. I I don't want to take away
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from the college football regular season. I don't want to
dilute it to where like college basketball, where we have
eighteen teams or eight teams and then it's team nine
and ten and now you know what Oklahoma Texas has
taken place, you know, week number five and they're walking
through the motions because they already have a guaranteed spot.
But I'll put a proposal, proponent or a provision in
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if UH for a non group of five team to
get in. Like this year, if there's all one lost
teams or not enough undefeated teams to make the College
Football Playoff and there is a group of five team
that is undefeated, they get in. So like this year
where we're splitting hairs between the fourth, if that were
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the case again, then if there's an undefeated non group
of five, we put them in. You know who deserves
us too, is not just UCF and all the group
of fives. But I really think college fans deserve to
see this. I mean instead of constantly debating this, I
mean I sort of think I know what would happen
if it was Alabama UCF. But after two years of debating,
if you CF was number four, I'd like to see
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that game. I really would, because I think it's gonna
be a blood bath against Oklahoma. I do. I think
Alabama's gonna house Oklahoma. So I'd rather see you CEF
have that opportunity. I'm not dying for eight teams because
to be honest, this year, I really only think three
teams deserve to be in the playoffs. I really do.
I I would take Oklahoma out. I think Andy's perfect season,
Clemson perfect season, Alabama perfect season. I think those three
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teams in the playoffs, so I don't need to see eight,
but there are some instances where I'd like to see
those teams have opportunities. A couple of things Ohio State
is not in in my opinion, not just because of Perdue.
It's game control all season long. I think the committee
looked hard at Maryland, they looked hard at the Nebraska game,
they looked hard at the Indiana game. They didn't continue
until we got to Michigan and then Northwestern in the
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Big Tent and they were They were struggling at times
against north but a lack of game control all season long.
I think that's what really did Ohio State in. And
my second point is in terms of Georgia, we talked
about president with a group of five. They the committee
did not want to set a precedent with Georgia being
a two loss non conference champion. But the question still
has to be asked, do we really want the four
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best teams, because if we're saying the four best teams
belong in the playoffs, in my opinion, Georgian is one
of those teams. But you can't just count out loss,
right Marshal. I mean today, yeah, in Baton Rouge, and
it wasn't even under the lights, right, you know, the
Tigers played better at night than they do during the day.
It's just hard for if you if to make a
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case for Georgia, I mean, I I get it. You
got and you got a one loss Oklahoma team. People
wanted Georgia in. They say Georgia deserved the chance. And
I guess you you they didn't want to count the
loss to Alabama because they didn't feel like a loss,
because I guess Alabama is better. So you hey, let's
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just not count that game. But you can't do that.
And and my my thing is and this is this
is this is why college sports bothered me. And this
is why the playoffs bothered me. This is the whole
Bowl hierarchy. Give the underdog a chance, just just just
give them a chance, like they they need a chance.
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This is this is why UM in basketball they went
to that. Okay, we're gonna have these teams play before
we make before we just decide who the teams are
to go in it in the bracket. So you you
you go have the playoffs. There's some extra games. We're
gonna play some teams from small schools. We're gonna figure
this out. You gotta give the underdog a chance because
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you never you never know. Those kids from UCF they
could end up having a day and Alabama could have
their worst day. You never know. Don't take their chance
of having the chance away by not putting them in,
just by saying, oh, you played Weber State, you played
little sisters of the poor. It doesn't matter how many
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games do they have to win before they let you know, Hey,
we want to see if we can compete with the
big boys. I agree, and I'll tell you I thought
it would be last year that they would have a
better chance because they defeated Auburn. Last year, Auburn went
to the SEC Championship. Auburn knocked off Georgia and Alabama
boat top tier teams when they defeated them. So I
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thought this year they would have a better opportunity. And
they're still on the outside looking in. I'll say this,
if they defeat l s U convincingly, convincingly at all,
Joe Rady Williams, I think it's gonna be by Like
you know, I would say at all. I wouldn't put
a number at all, I agree at all. The next
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year's the years solid season, just no year, it's not happening.
If you've beaten Auburn and l s U and back
to back bowl games and perfect seasons, back to back seasons. Man,
they're gonna have a beast. They really are. And how
about this, how about us forgot Greedy Williams is sitting
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out and you know, Devin White says, yeah, but you
know what though, Mackenzie Milton not playing right, so now
you're using your back up, red shirt freshman quarterback and
Darryl mack definitely not Darryl matt he stepped up. We
have one like that. There's there's a quarterback issue there
if they if if they had one, because the kid,
the kid came out and played a heck of a game.
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We expected that. We talked a lot on the air
last weekend about the expectations. I know, Gabe even said
Gabel Gabe got fired up and he's like, Josh hype
as a quarterback to talk to this kid and you
could tell that kid, that young kid got dead or
and Bed had a couple of fumbles early, but he
got more confident as that game went on. That was
a hell of a comeback, and Josh had the kid
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ready for the moment. He understood, Hey, this is where
your nerves are going to be. This is how you're
going to feel on them down. And the kid played.
He played a heck of a game. I was, I was,
I was impressed. I thought he would play well. He
played better than I thought. Yeah, he really did. And
the one thing I think when I watched you ce
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F play over recent weeks is against Cincinnati and then
they won that ball game against Memphis the conference championship.
When they fall behind, they do not lose their composure.
They did it against Temple, they maintained and that was
with Milton at the helm. When when East Carolina and
they were on the road with Mack, he stepped up.
They made place. This team expects to make enough plays
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to good ball game. That's good coaching. That's that's that's
good coaching. That's when you you understand you have a
game plan, and when that game plan is not working,
you understand where you're going because that that that that
that's football. It's it's it's the chess match. Okay, this
is how we want to attack them. Oh they're doing
something different. Okay, Now this is how we're going to
attack them, and they have no problem, whether it's on
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the ground or throwing the ball or even just as
a as a front seven playing stout defense. Yeah, I
think nobody. I think in a one game scenario, we've
seen a Boise States step up over Oklahoma. I gets
the consistency of the season, but I think that you
SEEF matches up well against Notre Dame. I think they
can they can move to football and Notre Dame in
a college football playoff environment. Now Clemson and Alabama to
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me are different animals on the interior, but you never know.
I mean, if they jump up Oklahoma would say that
score would have to be in the sixties. Kyler Murray
and you Ceef's offense going up against each other would
be pretty intriguing. Well, I just want to piggyback on
something something that Marshall said to is give them a chance.
And if you look at the history of sports we've
been either around sports, covering sports or entire lives, it's
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those moments that we always remember, right It's NC State
in Jim Valvano. Those are the moments we remember in sports.
So you know, it's not only good for that one team,
but the entire sort of ecosystem of sports benefits when
these smaller schools are able to pull off. Give it
an opportunity to make a magical moment we remember those times.
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Allow allow the UTEP Miners to play the Kentucky Wildcats
and see what happened. You just never know how it
could change and make movies out of I mean, so
they make movies out of those moments. Yes, exactly allowed
the opportunity to happen. Give it a chance. Don't just
don't just put it to bed just because you you
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you want to get one of your schools in. Uh,
you got allot of these kids a chance. I think
this year will be the year if they knock off
l last year when they're on riveted to that because
some money maker too. You know that TV March madness
is a billion dollar industry from the brackets to the TV. Right.
I mean, what would the eighth they ran? What would
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they ranked eighth? That's it Chickan was over them, which
is that's that's a little bit after the loss to
Ohio State Michigan there eight, that's what do you what
do you gotta do? That's today. So what do we
have to do? Last year? Last year's bowl game? I
think to a lot of people, I would even include myself,
and that if felt a little bit I don't know,
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they felt a little bit flukey, maybe like you know,
I even said I remember saying like, yeah, you know
what auburned. They weren't serious, they weren't motivated. But this
year UCF is on everyone's radar. Here here, here's my question.
How can you not take a bowl game serious? And
that's that I agree with it. That's the mindset. Your
last game was like a month ago. That's all you've
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been practicing for. Is this one game? How do you
how do you not? I mean, is that a knock
on the head coach for not making sure his guys
or mentally invested in what what you're Why you're there?
This is why you're at it. They say you come
to get a degree. No, you're there to win football games.
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They don't make the mentality more show you know that
even in the NFL, it's a different It's no longer
the team mentality. It's about me, my interest. You know,
the bowl game you you sweat, you do too with
days you go to spring ball, it's a year round investment.
But it's a year round investment for them. It's not
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that's the way I look at it is gonna be
Army Navy. Army Navy. Wait, it's all about I love
watching those kids play in this game. It means the
world of me. When we come back, we'll be breaking
down Army Navy and we'll be breaking down North Dakota.
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brought to your d S. I inspired, Yeah, I do.
I feel it is well. Maurency would love these games.
The way is this Marncy on the bump? Is that Marncy?
Oh wow, Wow, that's pretty good. Sounds pretty good. I'm
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gonna put it. We'll put it on in the in
the in the rake will listen to it. But Maurenzi
is gonna love the breakdowns of the FCS games that
kick off at twelve o'clock. Huge battle, gave huge battle,
North Dakota State number one in FCS taken on number
nine Colgate. Very intriguing battle. Guys. You have Eastern stick
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quarterback four North Dakota State that has thrown twenty two
touchdown pants is. We have lands Done the running back
more of a thunder and lightning type of crew with Anderson.
Both of those players have combined for twenty two touchdowns.
And then we have Shephard, the wide receiver that's stepping
up does have six receiving touchdowns. This is a Dakota
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State defense that's allowing a hundred eight rushing yards per game,
a hundred eighty four passing yards per game, but they're
going up against a very methodical offense and cold Gate,
but more importantly, the number one rights statistical defense in FCS.
Allowing two total yards per game not gonna easy. Seven
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points per game not gonna be easy. But here's what
I look at, guys, seniors, senior leadership at the quarterback position.
Two running backs that are seniors, unheard senior wide receiver.
I'm taking North Dakota State. You're laying the points with
the Bison cold Gate today paste. You see what he
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did there with the paste. It's the Alabama and I'm
not backing down. I learned my lesson at the FBS
level and I'm back in North Dakota. Alabama You'll never take,
but you'll take the Bison of North Dakota State at
six national championships. Marshal in the rest of seven years,
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approaching change from Craig Bowl to Chris Klaiman. Uh, you're right,
senior leadership, But yeah, I have a hard time betting
against that Colgate defense. I don't think they pull the upset.
I don't think the Raiders get the upset. But they're
allowing seven points game. Five shutouts this season, five shutouts
pass defense. Listen to this, This sounds numbers that I'm
pulling out of Ninette. They've allowed two touchdown passes all
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season and have fifteen interceptions. Now, the competition level and
the Patriot League. I know the Patriot League very well.
Back from my old days at campus, insiders did a
lot of sideline reporting only cross Fordham games till Morehead.
Different level of competition. I understand that. But that kind
of defense, t J hole in, that defense allowing just
seven points per game, I think it's enough to at
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least get the cover the I'm gonna take cold Gate,
give me the Raiders plus twenty four and a half.
We're gonna have a best Marha Noard Dakota stay for me.
I'm just going. I'm going with the Factory. It's just
it's just it's just what they do. I mean, they
they they know how to win games. And just just
imagine if they score score two early past touchdowns against
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cold Gate. Does that just shocked them? Is that a
shock to their system? I think it's over because I
don't think Colgate has the offense to rally. There you go, yeah,
this guy if I had to make an FBS comp
what you laughing for? You smiling for? This is like this,
This would be Alabama versus who would be a good
defensive team that struggles to score. Maybe, like Fred I
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was gonna say Fresno because because Colo a small Patriots,
Patriots like a Patriotle. I think a group of five
I would say, like, this is like an Alabama Fresno game. Okay,
if you want to Temple Temple would maybe I thought Temple.
I thought Temple too, where they have some problems offensively,
but defensively, very gritty Northeast team. Cold Gate from the
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state of New York. Yeah, I think it would be
like Alabama Temple. Well, I think when you look at
this matchup from an offensive perspective for cold Gate, now,
their quarterback Brennaman only has six touchdown passes. They rely
on their running back Colin that has over eleven hundred
rushing yards averaging five point nine yards per carry. So
they're gonna want to establish the running keep that offense
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on the sidelines. We'll see how it plays out. It's
a twelve o'clock kick when a total perspective very low though,
guys too, so they're not expecting a lot of points.
Whether North Dakota State dominates this matchup, I could see
it being in the area to seven. Would you take
the over? Would not about From what I've seen in
North Dakota State, I think they can move to football,
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but cold Gate, they're gonna need to establish the run
and keep that offense on the sideline. So their job,
they're going to slow down the game. They want to.
They want to slow it down. They're gonna have long
drives and and and they want to make sure that
when North Dakota State take to feel like, oh we
gotta score, Oh we haven't had the ball, or we're
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out of rhythm. That's that's what that's what they want
to do. They want to slow this game down. You
know what I love about North Dakota State because you know,
I get I get well, yeah, the units are nice.
I get a little bit tweaked. Sometimes when FCS programs
decide to elevate to the FBS, they have resisted that temptation.
You know, they decided to stay in the Big Sky.
You know, we're we're like the Yukon women's basketball of
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FCS football. They're dominant, they're content, with that, they've had
opportunities to to move to conferences like the Sun Belt
maybe Conference USA, and they're like, no, you know what,
We're happy where we are. We have a really good
thing going here. We're sending the Carson wentz Is to
the NFL every so often. They know their brand and
their identity, and I'm glad that they've stayed put in
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the FCS. And you're looking at North Dakota State. I mean,
in recent years they knocked off teams like Kansas State,
like Iowa. So you're talking about a team that looks
to step up and make a statement. So they're not
gonna fear COVID in that battle. It should be pretty interesting.
Jamie brought it up to Colgate went toe to toe
with Army just a couple of weeks ago, lost twenty
to fourteen. That's a nine and two Army team. That's
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a solid you know, maybe like mid level. What are
you laughing about, because I'm thinking of I was gonna
throw it to throw it out to Marshall. It's a
long way away from the days of Kenny Gamble back
in cold you know, Marshall just said in the last segment,
this is why we play these games, and I don't
want to see Colgate have that shot as a dollar
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it's out there. Yeah, I'm curious to see how that
game plays out. The other intriguing battle is South Dakota
State and ranked number two in FCS, going up against
UH Kennesaw State there ranked number five. Every intriguing battle. Again,
when I break this game down, Christian the quarterback has
thrown for twenty six touchdown passes, but it's to a
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big play wide receiver crew here and they're singing Johnson
for South Dakota State. I mean, combined a hundred five
receptions twenty two receiving touchdowns. They're big. They remind me
of Colin Johnson and the little Jordan Humphrey for Texas
going up against a smaller defensive secondary. I'm laying the
wood here, I am, Are you really? I'm laying the
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seven and a half. I think they have the better offense,
favorite quarterback with Christian at the quarterback position and kenne
Well State so methodical offense, averaging three sixty nine rushing
yards for a game. If they can't run it, they
could be behind the sticks. And that's why I'm taking
UH South Dakota State. There are three Division one college
football programs that have winning streaks in each of the
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last two years. I'm not gonna quiz anybody, but I
will tell you one is Alabama u cf as the
other the third is kenne Saw State. And what fascinates
me about this program I actually started, not not for
this segment, but I actually started to study. I was
tipped off about Kennesaw State a couple of years ago.
The head coach Brian Bohanan, former Georgia wide receiver. This
program started in two thousand and fifteen. They had no
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football prior to two thousand and fifteen, and now they're
in the FCS playoffs. They run a triple option offense.
Bohanon is a Paul Johnson disciple. Paul Johnson just stepped
away from Georgia Tech. The reason why, Like Kennesaw State,
they're a home dog getting a touchdown. But South Dakota
State hasn't seen the option in very years, and I
saw it's such a different type of an offense. Now,
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South Dakota State almost upset North Dakota State earlier this year.
It's a very good football team, but traveling to Georgia
no experience versus the option, the excitement that they'll see
at Kennesaw State. I think they pull the upset. I
think they win this game out right. Yeah. The reason
why I don't like Kennesaw State is everything revolves around
their quarterback, Chandler Sandler Brooks. I mean, he has ten
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touchdowns through the air, six interceptions, but eight hundred seventy
one rushing yards twenty nine twenty nine rushing touchdowns. If
you could take him out of the offense. Now Marshall
could attest to this. Facing the triple option is a
lot different in game speed than it is in practice preparation.
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Especially if zone blocking type of schemes, those defensive linement
more portantly. Defensive tackles will have to disrupt running lanes
and that's not so easy when you go up against
an offense in Kennesaw State. The responsibility of your defensive tackle,
your middle linebacker in the outside linebackers are important. They
have to stay home. They gotta read their keys. And
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as much as you want to chase the football or
where you think the football is going, you have to
read your keys. You gotta read your guard when he's
down blocking ear if he's pulling the tackle. If if
that tackles, if that tackle a lot of defensive in
the go and he's slipped up, that's their optioning that guy.
So as a linebacker, you gotta get out, you gotta
stay outside contained. That's the hardest part for a lot
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of defensive players. You get so amped up. You're in
the bowl game. You want to go make plays, and
you play against one of these triple option teams and
that ball you don't know if it's in the belly
of the dive back going to the pitch back, or
does the quarterback keep it, And just just just if
that tight end when he's releasing to go get the
strong safety, if that's safety comes up and that ball
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goes over his head. I mean, there's so many elements
to the triple option that as a defender you have
to stay disciplined and read your keys. And early in
this game, who you're gonna watch, they're gonna they're gonna
slip some guys by. They might throw a pass, they
might you might get a dive back hitting his head
on the goal post just because some defensive tackle is
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following the football. It's incredible, I mean, and that's why
we when we talk about Army Navy. It's very intriguing
because you have kids fighting for four quarters and these
kids at the FCS level two these playoffs means something
to them. I mean, it's not about it, you know,
in the situations sometimes we have to dissect. We have
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to you know, are they motivated? Are they not? Who's
playing who's not the FCS playoffs. Everybody's all in. This
is for a national championship. So when when we get
to December, outside of the two semifinal games, which we
know will be you know, heightened attention and heighten uh
anticipation these FCS playoff games. I know they're not familiar names,
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you know, Jack rabbits. You know how many teams get in?
How many teams get in there? Six team I'm not mistaken.
It's a sixteen. It's not diluted. Yeah, but you know
he's right, you know, not they do it. You know,
I heard Mike Leach talk about this the other day.
You know, we do something crazy at the Division three level.
It's called the College Football Playoff and somehow, someway it's
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not diluted. He's right, I agree, but I agree with
you as well. There has to be some kind of
a balance. I don't want to mess with the regular season.
I think in college football we have the best regular
season in any sport. I mean, the the excitement that
you have week after week, the meaning week after week
is awesome. So I don't want to screw with that.
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But there might be a way to tinker with the
playoffs a little bit so that we have the best
of both worlds. We'll see it. You'll see it after
this year, I think. I think after this year, Ohio
State now second year in the in a row where
they're left out of the straight years the Big Ten
champ has not been in the playoff. That's gonna be
a lot of run games for you know, when when
it's a Power five team, it's okay, sure, you know
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they have the cloud money. We're power five? Were you
wait around here? Yeah, you mean to tell me we
were left out of the college football So you gotta
do it. Just invite more teams. You're gonna make a
lot of people have where you know, actually in C
two A, you're gonna make a lot of more, a
lot more money, right like hev'll be happy, more games, more,
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you know, more revenue. People will complained about eight teams.
But you know what it was like. It was like
last year when when everybody was you know, everybody was
all upset because two SEC teams in the National champions
most teams were the highest ever. Pretty million people didn't
turn people away, So that should be intriguing. Last game
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on the docket is Eastern Washington going up against you C. Davis.
That face Stanford. Now, the one thing that I am
concerned about is when I broke down Eastern Washington multiple
quarterback play. Now, there's still an offense that's averaging passing
yawns per game, but a lot of injuries. They have
a lot of depth, but they're utilizing a lot of players,
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so I I am concerned about the offensive continuity heading
into this attall. The one thing I think that I like,
I still like Eastern Washington is they have a balanced offense,
a better defense than you see Davis. You see Davis
has given up a hundred and eighty seven rushing yards
for a game. To me, that's the difference, Mayer that
a quarterback has completed over sixty of his passes. But
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I'm laying the nine points with Eastern Washington in this
ball game. Yeah, we're an agreement in this one. And
you just have to go back a couple of weeks
and and watch the tape, watch the game between e
WU and you see Davis. They played at Eastern Washington
back in November and the Eagles won fifty nine to twenty.
So you know, I'm not saying the game will be
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as lopsided as that first meeting was, but you know, yeah,
they're down in All American quarterback Gage guberd is out
for the season. So Eric Berriair has come in and
done a nice job. But they had the recipe for
beating U. C. Davis. They completely shut down Meyer and
Keilan DAWs who leads the country, leads FCS with a
hundred and nine receptions. So you know, I love the
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which of you see. You know its coach and U C.
Davis these days, and I don't know Dan Hawkins boys
and people have said, let me just say this quickly
about Dan. It wasn't Chris Peterson that brought Boise. He
took boys at the next level. It was Dan Hawkins
that went to Colorado, couldn't get it done and gave
way to John. It was such a surprise to me.
I mean, he did such a good job at boys
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and just get recruited, you know, Martial not to get
your take on this game as well, but when you
see these players about FCS, I see Tarikoh and lighting
it off for the Bears, and see A and T
North Carolina A and T HBCU baby the smaller schools.
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I mean, we've seen Chase Clemens last year for Fordham.
Now he's having great success with Arizona, others other small players. Uh,
you can find NFL talent here. So I mean this
is where I mean teams are made at this level.
And and and here's what I'm gonna say. I give
I say kudos to the guys coming from the small schools.
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And usually when teams draft him, they play well. There's
no there, there's you don't have a bus. If a
guy is playing well, he's not playing with other five
star at least, and he's hitting. You rarely have a
guy come from one of the small schools and at
the next level they're a bus. They might get injured,
they might not maybe can't handle a physicality of the
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game when they come to the next level. But for
the most part, when when when that guy, when you
put him on the field with other talent. He liked
to re coon. He rises up like Carson Wentz. They
rise up, they rise up to the occasion. Yeah, it's
incredibly had that chip on their shoulder a lot of times,
because you know, once in a while you'll have a
power five transfer go to the FCS for more playing
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time or whatever reason. But oftentimes these are kids who
were under recruited. These are these are kids who were
overlooked out of high school. And that chip on the
shoulder that they have they carry right into their NFL career. Uh.
You know you mentioned players in the NFL Cooper Cup.
His brother plays for Eastern Washington, one of their top defenders,
and you can you's got six defensive touchdowns this year.
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So you know, some interesting games as we get clued.
Maine is in Maine one last night there in the semifinals,
so we'll wait to see who the other three team
tams are quickly. More So, I mean, I feel like
the offensive defensive lines in the NFL, this is where
teams get it. This is where they get these players. Yeah,
and you gotta get them from somewhere. They make their
moves by going there. Yeah. So when we come back
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we'll be talking about the big game today. Army and Navy.
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I mean, if you had a bad college football NFL season,
get it back in the in the NBA, right or wrong.
That's what actors lost to the Nets last night. And
all I know is I caught that on ESPN Briefly.
Nets were had an eight game losing streak and snapped
it as a nine point. The Nets uniforms black and white,
(37:56):
but they had some special soccer unis on yesterday, the Nets.
If you know, I'm so off basketball these days. That
Nets I'm thinking like John Williamson, that's going Backiam dr J.
Of course, I think I think Doc was playing for
the Nets when they were like in Piscataway. I couldn't
(38:16):
tell you that. I'm just remember this. Yeah, well basketball
is not my fourth day, is that? Lucarneska still with St.
John's and I man, I used to love the Knicks
right around the corner at the garden. That was that.
That's where I spent a lot of my wasted youth
was at MSG. Anthony Mason and I saw, Yeah, John
(38:36):
Starks forgetting great. He's fantastic. He is one of the
best all time knicks, you know, for the way he
played two all time favorite nicks. Not that anybody cares.
Bob McAdoo, Bernard King, can you get this? This century century?
That's the problems last century, that's the problem. That is
(38:57):
the problem, right is you know, at least I I
love I loved Anthony Mason. I like the crimson your
face you're talking about like, yeah, right, you're the same age, yeah,
but yeah, but you're talking about like the lunch pale guys,
like they got the dirty coward guy. Don't let the
jacket kids here Okay, so you're not gonna go with
you in or or Mark Jackson or I Love Jackson
(39:19):
to St. John's Jackson. I like that whole team, that whole,
the whole makeup that team. There was there was so
much grit, you know there, there was so much blue
collar work ethic they were. That's when you could have
you can you could do more than half right the
(39:40):
same thing. That's when football was football too. That's when
you know it's football football, like we're watching each and
every day. But they're gonna let him play today in
Philadelphia between Army and Navy, I mean this, this rivalry
is unprecedented. Navy does lead the series by a total
margin of sixty to fifty one and seven ties, but
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they've lost two straight to the Cadets. This is a
Cadet offense that's averaging three hundred three rushing yards per game.
They're averaging close to seventy two yards through the air.
Navy does have one of the worst the worst rushing
defenses since two thousand and fourteen, given up a hundred
and eighty nine rushing ars per game. But guess what
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their plus stan turnover Margie and when you could create turnovers,
you have an opportunity. Give me Navy plus the six
and a half outright over the Cadets. Yeah, I like Army.
I'm gonna buck a little bit. I mean, most of
these games are very close. Six of the less seven
meetings between the Academy is decided by a touchdown or less.
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The line in this game is a touchdown. I mentioned
with Jamie and our second segment, the last twelve battles
between Army and Navy all have gone under, so we
don't expect a lot of scoring. Army to me today
and Army over the past couple of years is Navy,
but a much better version of the Navy. And what
Army does if you're gonna run the triple option, you
know what makes it doubly difficult is when you control
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the ball. And right now, Army leads the entire country
in time of possession. Their ability to milk the clock
to wear out defenses one of the reasons why Army
has is so good statistically on defense. Not only do
they have good linebackers, but they hold the ball. No
defense has played fewer plays this year than Army, so
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Army is fresh, Army is talented. Army is rolling. They
have a shot for the first time ever to have
a ten win season. I like Army to cover this game,
not a blowout, but I would say between ten and
thirteen points clearly the better team, Marshal, I'm gonna grow
two statistics at you that to richest point Army converting
converting fifty seven percent on third downs and holding opposing
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offenses to twice seven on third downs. And all by
the way, their plus five in turnover market. Yeah, all
of those things, it points to Army. But um, I
just h there's there's something about Navy and game and
in big games, and you put them under the light,
you put them on a spotlight and and they tend
to just shine and they show up and and and
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not to mention this is this is like Navy has
been awful at stopping a run. Well, if you run
a triple option, guess what you know how to stop
the triple option. They'll they'll be ready, they will be
ready to play today. This game has so much, so
much more of a meaning to to these cadets than
they do to us. I just love watching them go
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out and play with the passion that they play with.
And and um it's it's funny. It was like, wow,
this is this game, is the game that the players
on the field would put their lives and die for
the people watching the players on the field, it's it's
usually it's like it's the other way around, but these guys, man,
it's uh, it's it's an honor to watch this game,
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and it definitely is. It's it's incredible because I wonder
for two things. One, I wonder if Marshall Falk played
in a triple option offense, how many yards? What do
you have? In college? The second thing is what you
and I have spoken about, can you win at the
FBS level outside could uh Naval and Navy Academy schools,
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air Force? Can you win at an elite level? Because
we all Johnson and we talked about this. Paul Johnson
stepping away as head coach from Georgia Tech got it
to a respectable level at seven and five overall and
one or two years to go to a ball game
against Mississippi State and dominated. But again, at the end
of the day, can you be an elite program running
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the triple option? No? I would I would say elite level. No,
I mean, I don't think you're gonna win national championships
these days by running the option. Where I think it's
valuable is when we look at these academies, Army and
Navy are not getting the same caliber of athlete as
elite programs. The way you have a difference maker, the
way you can narrow the gap is by running an
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offense that most opposing defenses are not accustomed to. So
Army and Navy has been able to be competitive for
such a long period of time, not in spite of,
but because of those offenses. I think if they were
running a pro style, they just wouldn't get the caliber
of kids to compete. And I think it would be
messy on a week to week basis. And that's why
if you're an Army or a Navy or an air Force,
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or if you're a Kansas, if you're less Miles, you know,
I could see Less Miles coming up with more triple
option based offense and taking Kansas not to an elite level,
but instead of being too intent every year, I think
you could be the team that no one wants to face.
No one wants to face the triple option. And if
you have a program like Kansas or an academy. I
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think it's uh. I think it's something you can utilize.
We saw Kansas State give a variation of that in
terms of ground impound and run the football with Bill
Snyder right, so with mobile quarterbacks exactly. So in the
Big Twelve, Marshall, you saw the one game that Kyler
Murray and the crew struggled they were locked twenty one
apiece against Army and how to pull that game out
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in overtime. Could this be something of a transition that
we could see maybe less Miles doing in the Big
Twelve against these high octane offenses that don't play a
stitch of defense. If you if you run the triple option,
and okay, if Alabama ran the triple option, they'd be
just as successful. I mean it's just when you have
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the talent, it really doesn't matter what offense you decide
to run. You are going to somehow, some way be elite.
And think think about it. If Jalen Hurts was running
a triple option at Alabama lethal, I mean, he'd have
a lot of the rush yards. But the thing is
when they decided to throw, oh my god, it would
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be so open because you have to commit to stopping hurt.
You have to commit to stopping him in the in
the in the triple option. So what it worked, Yes,
and I agree with both of you guys. It is
it is so different in football. You you actually have
to practice, like when you have a triple option team
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on your schedule every week, you have to work on
certain things in your schedule for the triple option. So
when you get there, your players understand, like we've been
we we taught you this, we worked on this because
it's so different than what we see. Uh, it would
be just like just like the spread option. In a sense,
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what it has done it kind of levels the level
the playing field. The triple option levels the playing field
because now you chew up clock, you slow down the game,
you make the game a must score or one score game.
And today's quarterbacks, today's offenses in college, they're not used
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to planning games like that. I mean they're they're used
to a D players. Again, if you only at forty
plays on offense, your offensive coordinator has no idea what
the run. It just shortens the game, It makes it,
it makes it. It makes it tough for you on
on the opposite side of the ball. The other offensive coordinator,
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You're like, okay, we have to get a first down.
If we give the ball back, they're gonna eat up more.
The margin of error is completely shot at that point.
One question I wanted to ask Marshall real quick, why
is it? I hear it a lot of times where
you know, coaches will say our defensive lineman hate facing
the triple option, and they just they're kind of like
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ankle biters, right, What what kind of blocks are they
facing from an offensive line that runs a triple option?
That is so damn frustrating for those defensive As a
defensive lineman, you two things you have to be assignment.
I mean the penetration into the backfield, you create a crease.
It's you actually have to play on the same level.
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So it's it's kind of like two gapping. You have
to stand. You have to stand the offensive lineman up
because what they wanna do is once you are, once
you get your responsibility and assignment, then it's stay on
your feet because they want to cut you. They want
to get you down. If they can get you down
and that ball is going outside or the quarterback get
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you flanked, it's it's so hard to stop the option
every run game, every run game, not option. It's about defense,
setting the edge, getting to the point of attack well
against the option. Guess what they want you to do.
They want you to set the edge. They want to
option off the edge that's being set. So it plays
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so different. You're outside guys. They have to they have
to hold you. Gotta allow the quarterback to come to you.
You don't want to attack the quarterback too early because
if you attack the quarterback too early, the pitch happens.
Now your feel or contained guy. If he's not in position,
he's out of position. You get out flanked. It's incredible.
If there's so much you you play, you have to
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play so different. Every defensive tackle is taught get up field,
get in the backfield. You're disruptive. If you get up field,
you get in the backfield. Versus the option, you could
literally run by the dive back. So it's it's so different.
It's playing chess in the checkers world basically, and they
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take advantage of overly aggressive defense. Is the one thing
that LT back in the day was he he would
come from the backside and tackle the ball carrier. You
see it time and time again in college football where
defensive ends want to go down the line of scrimmage.
So that's what the triple option, especially misdirection. They do
a counter option where they fake to dive one way,
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they get the defensive end out of position, and then
they come back backside and they have clear running room
because they have the pitchman coming in motion. So it's incredible.
They're so disciplined that they've been running it each and
every year that they do it better. I mean, these
two schools do it better than anyway, and both see
it in practice. They both see it throughout the years,
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so they both know the nuances, the different wrinkles in
the offense. So you know when you have that opportunity.
And we used to see with Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech
had some great wide receivers even during the triple option days,
right they had you know the Stephen Hills Calvin Johnson
I think was pre trip, but I mean they've had some,
they've had some really good wide receivers because those guys
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a they know how to blockdown field. Every one of
the receivers in this offense know how to blockdown field
and be their average yards per catch often times is
off the charts like North It's crazy. And the one
thing I think, and when you see college football now
and the one thing I can't stand is kids quitting
in the second half. You know they're down by twenty
five points, arm tackles, they're walking back to the huddle.
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You're not gonna see that no matter what the score
is later today. Because both of these schools, even though
they're on the same side, because they they they're they're
giving their their time presenting the military, the military, but
at the end of the day, they do not like
each other. It is well traditionally the worst ride. I mean,
this is a hatred. What I've always said to I've
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been asked this for years. You know, what's what's the
most heated rival what's the most meaning meaningful rivalry? For me,
it's always Army Navy. And one of the things always
point to is not just the hatred between the players,
but how many college football games, how many sporting events
can you say has meaning in Afghanistan or in Iraq
or all over the planet. It's like you're gonna have
it is. I was just about to say that it is.
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It is watched like the super Bowl has watched. This
game is, and I'm glad that they said it is totally.
It used to be like part of the other dealings.
Now it's this game deserves its own Saturday, it really does.
You know, going back to the option, the option, and
I'm not talking about the triple option, the option in general,
it is so difficult and so hard to stop the NFL.
(51:52):
It it has made its way to the NFL. If
you if you watch today's quarterback, I mean outside of
a normal guys dropping back to Drew Brees and and
and uh and Brady, They're they're not really running it.
But most quarterbacks in the league today they are running
a variation if if that defensive end, if they're running
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his own read and that defensive and crashed down quarterbacks
out the back door with the ball. That's how that's
how hard it is to stop the option. And and
now you have to assign a guy to the quarterback,
which means you're you're making them play eleven on eleven. Right,
That's that's Uh. You ever had an athletic quarterback, I'm
thinking Kerl Warner. Harball was somewhat mobile. He was he
(52:36):
was at I'd give I'd give hard. Hardball was trink Green. No, no,
it was not a runner, was not Who was the
who was the was Robert Holcomb on your on your team?
He was big, you know, big, big burly. Uh he
actually he was. He was the backup half back when
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I at there, and then he moved the full back right.
Holcomb was Holcomb was big back in the day, you know.
I mean you think about some of the players to
talk about the transition to from the game, I mean,
you're talking about a wide open offense. Greatest show on
turf was years ahead of, uh of what we see
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college Football Today, Back on College Back on College Football Today,
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brought here by Beck ds I talking a little bit
about the college Football Bowls, college football off, talking about
Bobby Bush in the off camera discussion. We we know
that the top four teams are already in Alabama, we
(01:14):
have Clemson, we have Notre Dame, and we have Oklahoma.
But the argument or controversy that really took place was
last Sunday with which team could challenge Oklahoma as possibly
cracking the college football playoff. A lot of people were
on George's bandwagon after they lost that close game to Alabama.
(01:35):
Others with Ohio State and Urban Meyer winning the Big
Ten championship, and oh there's that school in Orlando. They've
just won straight games conference champions, defeated Memphis u CF.
I mean, it's an intriguing argument, guys, it really is
for me. I think when I break down those three teams, Georgia,
(01:55):
Ohio State, u CF, I would say I would lean
to Georgia. And the one reason is you look at
their ten wins they came against opponents would have combined
overall record of seventy nine and fifty four. That's a
five winning percentage. When you look at Ohio State, They're
eleven wins came against opponents, would have combined overall record
(02:16):
of seventy five and eighty two, which was four seventy seven.
And then you have UCF there twelve wins came against
opponents would have combined overall record of sixty five and
seventy which is a four eighty one winning percentage. So
the one knock I have about UCF they only played
eleven games this year, again for the second year in
the row because of a cancelation, so they were twelve
(02:38):
and all I look at Ohio State, they have that
twenty nine point lost to Georgia, so to produce, so
that stands out but the way Georgia played against Alabama,
to me would give them a nod. Now my question
to you is, if Ohio State loses to Purdue by ten,
does Oklahoma get into the college Football Playoff over the
(03:02):
buckas Oklahoma's in You mean what Ohio State? Ohio States,
both champions, certainly would have been more palatable. I mean,
I think the fact that it's questionable, think questionable. Only
here's the thing that Texas Oklahoma game, that Oklahoma loss,
(03:23):
that was a heck of a football game. And and
even even like when when you think about like and
I'm a say, you think about just the Heisman and
what you do Kyler Murray played exception in that game.
He has some turnovers early, but the kid played really
well in that game. I just don't know if if
(03:43):
even if, I mean it was perdue like that. That's
a rivalry game, and and it could go either way. Emotions,
big plays, where where are you playing? And then they
redeemed the loss because they got a chance to play
them again both on a neutral field too, right, And
and and I would I would still give give it
(04:05):
to I'd still give it to Oklahoma. I would stick
with Oklahoma. But um, this UCF thing, man, it's you know,
it's it's it. I came from a small schools played
at a small school. It's bothering me. What what it's
saying about the playoff system and and just just uh,
the hierarchy of football and um SEC commissioner came out
(04:27):
and said, you know, hey, they're schedule this week, blah
blah blah. I don't see any of the m SEC
schools trying to line up UCF for a non conference game.
I don't hear any of them saying, hey, come play us,
We'll do a home in a way, none of them
are trying to play that game. It reminds me of
Boise State. Boise State had the problem in the past
(04:48):
where Boise was, you know, regardless of what they did
under Chris Peterson, you know, they weren't going to get
into a BCS of a discussion and nobody wanted to
play that team. I mean, and that's what happens. And
it go was to Gonzaga in basketball. You could talk
about it at any level. You know, nobody wants to
face UCF, and which which makes for some interesting story.
All the power of five conferences. This is exactly this
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is how they manipulate how to keep their teams in
the bowl. If you if you, if you allow one
you CEEF team to get in, then who says that
some small San Diego State don't have a chance or
once you allow one team to get in because of
you know who they played. You know, it's like and
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I say this, and I mean no disrespect to the
rest of of the teams, but the Patriots play the
A f C s every year and those three teams
they've been bad for a long time. We don't, we
don't say anything to them. You play the teams that
are on your schedule. You get to pick some nonconference games,
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and and we don't get mad at Alabama for playing Troy.
We don't. We don't get you know, they you you
play some scre teams that kind of get get where
you want to get in conference. So let's not knock
them because I don't see those those those Power five
teams order SEC teams trying to schedule U c F. Yeah,
that's a great point. Although Florida did come out after
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all this controversy and said what we be willing, but
they haven't done it yet to do a home and home,
So that's the first you understand what that would mean
for Florida. Of course they would lose recruits. They already
they're already having an issue them in Florida state with
getting Florida's top players. You would really lose out if
you lose to UCFREE. There's there's no win in it
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for Florida. Well, to to Marshall's point, I think the
only way to rectify this situation, guys, and I know
you don't like it, is to expand the playoffs. You're
not getting UCF in with four four. And I think
Marshall brings up a great point because I do feel
the kids are deserving. The problem I have is because
it is amateurism. I I don't want to take away
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from the college football regular season. I don't want to
dilute it to where like college basketball, where we have
eighteen teams or eight teams and then it's team nine
and ten and now you know what Oklahoma Texas has
taken place, you know, week number five and they're walking
through the motions because they already have a guaranteed spot.
But I'll put a proposal, proponent or a provision in
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if UH for a non group of five team to
get in. Like this year, if there's all one lost
teams or not enough undefeated teams to make the College
Football Playoff and there is a group of five team
that is undefeated, they get in. So like this year
where we're splitting hairs between the fourth, if that were
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the case again, then if there's an undefeated non group
of five, we put them in. You know who deserves
us too, is not just UCF and all the group
of fives. But I really think college fans deserve to
see this. I mean instead of constantly debating this, I
mean I sort of think I know what would happen
if it was Alabama UCF. But after two years of debating,
if you CF was number four, I'd like to see
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that game. I really would, because I think it's gonna
be a blood bath against Oklahoma. I do. I think
Alabama's gonna house Oklahoma. So I'd rather see you CEF
have that opportunity. I'm not dying for eight teams because
to be honest, this year, I really only think three
teams deserve to be in the playoffs. I really do.
I I would take Oklahoma out. I think Andy's perfect season,
Clemson perfect season, Alabama perfect season. I think those three
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teams in the playoffs, so I don't need to see eight,
but there are some instances where I'd like to see
those teams have opportunities. A couple of things Ohio State
is not in in my opinion, not just because of Perdue.
It's game control all season long. I think the committee
looked hard at Maryland, they looked hard at the Nebraska game,
they looked hard at the Indiana game. They didn't continue
until we got to Michigan and then Northwestern in the
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Big Tent and they were They were struggling at times
against north but a lack of game control all season long.
I think that's what really did Ohio State in. And
my second point is in terms of Georgia, we talked
about president with a group of five. They the committee
did not want to set a precedent with Georgia being
a two loss non conference champion. But the question still
has to be asked, do we really want the four
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best teams, because if we're saying the four best teams
belong in the playoffs, in my opinion, Georgian is one
of those teams. But you can't just count out loss,
right Marshal. I mean today, yeah, in Baton Rouge, and
it wasn't even under the lights, right, you know, the
Tigers played better at night than they do during the day.
It's just hard for if you if to make a
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case for Georgia, I mean, I I get it. You
got and you got a one loss Oklahoma team. People
wanted Georgia in. They say Georgia deserved the chance. And
I guess you you they didn't want to count the
loss to Alabama because they didn't feel like a loss,
because I guess Alabama is better. So you hey, let's
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just not count that game. But you can't do that.
And and my my thing is and this is this
is this is why college sports bothered me. And this
is why the playoffs bothered me. This is the whole
Bowl hierarchy. Give the underdog a chance, just just just
give them a chance, like they they need a chance.
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This is this is why UM in basketball they went
to that. Okay, we're gonna have these teams play before
we make before we just decide who the teams are
to go in it in the bracket. So you you
you go have the playoffs. There's some extra games. We're
gonna play some teams from small schools. We're gonna figure
this out. You gotta give the underdog a chance because
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you never you never know. Those kids from UCF they
could end up having a day and Alabama could have
their worst day. You never know. Don't take their chance
of having the chance away by not putting them in,
just by saying, oh, you played Weber State, you played
little sisters of the poor. It doesn't matter how many
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games do they have to win before they let you know, Hey,
we want to see if we can compete with the
big boys. I agree, and I'll tell you I thought
it would be last year that they would have a
better chance because they defeated Auburn. Last year, Auburn went
to the SEC Championship. Auburn knocked off Georgia and Alabama
boat top tier teams when they defeated them. So I
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thought this year they would have a better opportunity. And
they're still on the outside looking in. I'll say this,
if they defeat l s U convincingly, convincingly at all,
Joe Rady Williams, I think it's gonna be by Like
you know, I would say at all. I wouldn't put
a number at all, I agree at all. The next
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year's the years solid season, just no year, it's not happening.
If you've beaten Auburn and l s U and back
to back bowl games and perfect seasons, back to back seasons. Man,
they're gonna have a beast. They really are. And how
about this, how about us forgot Greedy Williams is sitting
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out and you know, Devin White says, yeah, but you
know what though, Mackenzie Milton not playing right, so now
you're using your back up, red shirt freshman quarterback and
Darryl mack definitely not Darryl matt he stepped up. We
have one like that. There's there's a quarterback issue there
if they if if they had one, because the kid,
the kid came out and played a heck of a game.
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We expected that. We talked a lot on the air
last weekend about the expectations. I know, Gabe even said
Gabel Gabe got fired up and he's like, Josh hype
as a quarterback to talk to this kid and you
could tell that kid, that young kid got dead or
and Bed had a couple of fumbles early, but he
got more confident as that game went on. That was
a hell of a comeback, and Josh had the kid
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ready for the moment. He understood, Hey, this is where
your nerves are going to be. This is how you're
going to feel on them down. And the kid played.
He played a heck of a game. I was, I was,
I was impressed. I thought he would play well. He
played better than I thought. Yeah, he really did. And
the one thing I think when I watched you ce
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F play over recent weeks is against Cincinnati and then
they won that ball game against Memphis the conference championship.
When they fall behind, they do not lose their composure.
They did it against Temple, they maintained and that was
with Milton at the helm. When when East Carolina and
they were on the road with Mack, he stepped up.
They made place. This team expects to make enough plays
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to good ball game. That's good coaching. That's that's that's
good coaching. That's when you you understand you have a
game plan, and when that game plan is not working,
you understand where you're going because that that that that
that's football. It's it's it's the chess match. Okay, this
is how we want to attack them. Oh they're doing
something different. Okay, Now this is how we're going to
attack them, and they have no problem, whether it's on
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the ground or throwing the ball or even just as
a as a front seven playing stout defense. Yeah, I
think nobody. I think in a one game scenario, we've
seen a Boise States step up over Oklahoma. I gets
the consistency of the season, but I think that you
SEEF matches up well against Notre Dame. I think they
can they can move to football and Notre Dame in
a college football playoff environment. Now Clemson and Alabama to
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me are different animals on the interior, but you never know.
I mean, if they jump up Oklahoma would say that
score would have to be in the sixties. Kyler Murray
and you Ceef's offense going up against each other would
be pretty intriguing. Well, I just want to piggyback on
something something that Marshall said to is give them a chance.
And if you look at the history of sports we've
been either around sports, covering sports or entire lives, it's
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those moments that we always remember, right It's NC State
in Jim Valvano. Those are the moments we remember in sports.
So you know, it's not only good for that one team,
but the entire sort of ecosystem of sports benefits when
these smaller schools are able to pull off. Give it
an opportunity to make a magical moment we remember those times.
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Allow allow the UTEP Miners to play the Kentucky Wildcats
and see what happened. You just never know how it
could change and make movies out of I mean, so
they make movies out of those moments. Yes, exactly allowed
the opportunity to happen. Give it a chance. Don't just
don't just put it to bed just because you you
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you want to get one of your schools in. Uh,
you got allot of these kids a chance. I think
this year will be the year if they knock off
l last year when they're on riveted to that because
some money maker too. You know that TV March madness
is a billion dollar industry from the brackets to the TV. Right.
I mean, what would the eighth they ran? What would
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they ranked eighth? That's it Chickan was over them, which
is that's that's a little bit after the loss to
Ohio State Michigan there eight, that's what do you what
do you gotta do? That's today. So what do we
have to do? Last year? Last year's bowl game? I
think to a lot of people, I would even include myself,
and that if felt a little bit I don't know,
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they felt a little bit flukey, maybe like you know,
I even said I remember saying like, yeah, you know
what auburned. They weren't serious, they weren't motivated. But this
year UCF is on everyone's radar. Here here, here's my question.
How can you not take a bowl game serious? And
that's that I agree with it. That's the mindset. Your
last game was like a month ago. That's all you've
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been practicing for. Is this one game? How do you
how do you not? I mean, is that a knock
on the head coach for not making sure his guys
or mentally invested in what what you're Why you're there?
This is why you're at it. They say you come
to get a degree. No, you're there to win football games.
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They don't make the mentality more show you know that
even in the NFL, it's a different It's no longer
the team mentality. It's about me, my interest. You know,
the bowl game you you sweat, you do too with
days you go to spring ball, it's a year round investment.
But it's a year round investment for them. It's not
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that's the way I look at it is gonna be
Army Navy. Army Navy. Wait, it's all about I love
watching those kids play in this game. It means the
world of me. When we come back, we'll be breaking
down Army Navy and we'll be breaking down North Dakota.
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I feel it is well. Maurency would love these games.
The way is this Marncy on the bump? Is that Marncy?
Oh wow, Wow, that's pretty good. Sounds pretty good. I'm
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gonna put it. We'll put it on in the in
the in the rake will listen to it. But Maurenzi
is gonna love the breakdowns of the FCS games that
kick off at twelve o'clock. Huge battle, gave huge battle,
North Dakota State number one in FCS taken on number
nine Colgate. Very intriguing battle. Guys. You have Eastern stick
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quarterback four North Dakota State that has thrown twenty two
touchdown pants is. We have lands Done the running back
more of a thunder and lightning type of crew with Anderson.
Both of those players have combined for twenty two touchdowns.
And then we have Shephard, the wide receiver that's stepping
up does have six receiving touchdowns. This is a Dakota
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State defense that's allowing a hundred eight rushing yards per game,
a hundred eighty four passing yards per game, but they're
going up against a very methodical offense and cold Gate,
but more importantly, the number one rights statistical defense in FCS.
Allowing two total yards per game not gonna easy. Seven
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points per game not gonna be easy. But here's what
I look at, guys, seniors, senior leadership at the quarterback position.
Two running backs that are seniors, unheard senior wide receiver.
I'm taking North Dakota State. You're laying the points with
the Bison cold Gate today paste. You see what he
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did there with the paste. It's the Alabama and I'm
not backing down. I learned my lesson at the FBS
level and I'm back in North Dakota. Alabama You'll never take,
but you'll take the Bison of North Dakota State at
six national championships. Marshal in the rest of seven years,
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approaching change from Craig Bowl to Chris Klaiman. Uh, you're right,
senior leadership, But yeah, I have a hard time betting
against that Colgate defense. I don't think they pull the upset.
I don't think the Raiders get the upset. But they're
allowing seven points game. Five shutouts this season, five shutouts
pass defense. Listen to this, This sounds numbers that I'm
pulling out of Ninette. They've allowed two touchdown passes all
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season and have fifteen interceptions. Now, the competition level and
the Patriot League. I know the Patriot League very well.
Back from my old days at campus, insiders did a
lot of sideline reporting only cross Fordham games till Morehead.
Different level of competition. I understand that. But that kind
of defense, t J hole in, that defense allowing just
seven points per game, I think it's enough to at
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least get the cover the I'm gonna take cold Gate,
give me the Raiders plus twenty four and a half.
We're gonna have a best Marha Noard Dakota stay for me.
I'm just going. I'm going with the Factory. It's just
it's just it's just what they do. I mean, they
they they know how to win games. And just just
imagine if they score score two early past touchdowns against
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cold Gate. Does that just shocked them? Is that a
shock to their system? I think it's over because I
don't think Colgate has the offense to rally. There you go, yeah,
this guy if I had to make an FBS comp
what you laughing for? You smiling for? This is like this,
This would be Alabama versus who would be a good
defensive team that struggles to score. Maybe, like Fred I
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was gonna say Fresno because because Colo a small Patriots,
Patriots like a Patriotle. I think a group of five
I would say, like, this is like an Alabama Fresno game. Okay,
if you want to Temple Temple would maybe I thought Temple.
I thought Temple too, where they have some problems offensively,
but defensively, very gritty Northeast team. Cold Gate from the
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state of New York. Yeah, I think it would be
like Alabama Temple. Well, I think when you look at
this matchup from an offensive perspective for cold Gate, now,
their quarterback Brennaman only has six touchdown passes. They rely
on their running back Colin that has over eleven hundred
rushing yards averaging five point nine yards per carry. So
they're gonna want to establish the running keep that offense
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on the sidelines. We'll see how it plays out. It's
a twelve o'clock kick when a total perspective very low though,
guys too, so they're not expecting a lot of points.
Whether North Dakota State dominates this matchup, I could see
it being in the area to seven. Would you take
the over? Would not about From what I've seen in
North Dakota State, I think they can move to football,
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but cold Gate, they're gonna need to establish the run
and keep that offense on the sideline. So their job,
they're going to slow down the game. They want to.
They want to slow it down. They're gonna have long
drives and and and they want to make sure that
when North Dakota State take to feel like, oh we
gotta score, Oh we haven't had the ball, or we're
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out of rhythm. That's that's what that's what they want
to do. They want to slow this game down. You
know what I love about North Dakota State because you know,
I get I get well, yeah, the units are nice.
I get a little bit tweaked. Sometimes when FCS programs
decide to elevate to the FBS, they have resisted that temptation.
You know, they decided to stay in the Big Sky.
You know, we're we're like the Yukon women's basketball of
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FCS football. They're dominant, they're content, with that, they've had
opportunities to to move to conferences like the Sun Belt
maybe Conference USA, and they're like, no, you know what,
We're happy where we are. We have a really good
thing going here. We're sending the Carson wentz Is to
the NFL every so often. They know their brand and
their identity, and I'm glad that they've stayed put in
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the FCS. And you're looking at North Dakota State. I mean,
in recent years they knocked off teams like Kansas State,
like Iowa. So you're talking about a team that looks
to step up and make a statement. So they're not
gonna fear COVID in that battle. It should be pretty interesting.
Jamie brought it up to Colgate went toe to toe
with Army just a couple of weeks ago, lost twenty
to fourteen. That's a nine and two Army team. That's
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a solid you know, maybe like mid level. What are
you laughing about, because I'm thinking of I was gonna
throw it to throw it out to Marshall. It's a
long way away from the days of Kenny Gamble back
in cold you know, Marshall just said in the last segment,
this is why we play these games, and I don't
want to see Colgate have that shot as a dollar
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it's out there. Yeah, I'm curious to see how that
game plays out. The other intriguing battle is South Dakota
State and ranked number two in FCS, going up against
UH Kennesaw State there ranked number five. Every intriguing battle. Again,
when I break this game down, Christian the quarterback has
thrown for twenty six touchdown passes, but it's to a
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big play wide receiver crew here and they're singing Johnson
for South Dakota State. I mean, combined a hundred five
receptions twenty two receiving touchdowns. They're big. They remind me
of Colin Johnson and the little Jordan Humphrey for Texas
going up against a smaller defensive secondary. I'm laying the
wood here, I am, Are you really? I'm laying the
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seven and a half. I think they have the better offense,
favorite quarterback with Christian at the quarterback position and kenne
Well State so methodical offense, averaging three sixty nine rushing
yards for a game. If they can't run it, they
could be behind the sticks. And that's why I'm taking
UH South Dakota State. There are three Division one college
football programs that have winning streaks in each of the
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last two years. I'm not gonna quiz anybody, but I
will tell you one is Alabama u cf as the
other the third is kenne Saw State. And what fascinates
me about this program I actually started, not not for
this segment, but I actually started to study. I was
tipped off about Kennesaw State a couple of years ago.
The head coach Brian Bohanan, former Georgia wide receiver. This
program started in two thousand and fifteen. They had no
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football prior to two thousand and fifteen, and now they're
in the FCS playoffs. They run a triple option offense.
Bohanon is a Paul Johnson disciple. Paul Johnson just stepped
away from Georgia Tech. The reason why, Like Kennesaw State,
they're a home dog getting a touchdown. But South Dakota
State hasn't seen the option in very years, and I
saw it's such a different type of an offense. Now,
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South Dakota State almost upset North Dakota State earlier this year.
It's a very good football team, but traveling to Georgia
no experience versus the option, the excitement that they'll see
at Kennesaw State. I think they pull the upset. I
think they win this game out right. Yeah. The reason
why I don't like Kennesaw State is everything revolves around
their quarterback, Chandler Sandler Brooks. I mean, he has ten
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touchdowns through the air, six interceptions, but eight hundred seventy
one rushing yards twenty nine twenty nine rushing touchdowns. If
you could take him out of the offense. Now Marshall
could attest to this. Facing the triple option is a
lot different in game speed than it is in practice preparation.
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Especially if zone blocking type of schemes, those defensive linement
more portantly. Defensive tackles will have to disrupt running lanes
and that's not so easy when you go up against
an offense in Kennesaw State. The responsibility of your defensive tackle,
your middle linebacker in the outside linebackers are important. They
have to stay home. They gotta read their keys. And
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as much as you want to chase the football or
where you think the football is going, you have to
read your keys. You gotta read your guard when he's
down blocking ear if he's pulling the tackle. If if
that tackles, if that tackle a lot of defensive in
the go and he's slipped up, that's their optioning that guy.
So as a linebacker, you gotta get out, you gotta
stay outside contained. That's the hardest part for a lot
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of defensive players. You get so amped up. You're in
the bowl game. You want to go make plays, and
you play against one of these triple option teams and
that ball you don't know if it's in the belly
of the dive back going to the pitch back, or
does the quarterback keep it, And just just just if
that tight end when he's releasing to go get the
strong safety, if that's safety comes up and that ball
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goes over his head. I mean, there's so many elements
to the triple option that as a defender you have
to stay disciplined and read your keys. And early in
this game, who you're gonna watch, they're gonna they're gonna
slip some guys by. They might throw a pass, they
might you might get a dive back hitting his head
on the goal post just because some defensive tackle is
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following the football. It's incredible, I mean, and that's why
we when we talk about Army Navy. It's very intriguing
because you have kids fighting for four quarters and these
kids at the FCS level two these playoffs means something
to them. I mean, it's not about it, you know,
in the situations sometimes we have to dissect. We have
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to you know, are they motivated? Are they not? Who's
playing who's not the FCS playoffs. Everybody's all in. This
is for a national championship. So when when we get
to December, outside of the two semifinal games, which we
know will be you know, heightened attention and heighten uh
anticipation these FCS playoff games. I know they're not familiar names,
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you know, Jack rabbits. You know how many teams get in?
How many teams get in there? Six team I'm not mistaken.
It's a sixteen. It's not diluted. Yeah, but you know
he's right, you know, not they do it. You know,
I heard Mike Leach talk about this the other day.
You know, we do something crazy at the Division three level.
It's called the College Football Playoff and somehow, someway it's
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not diluted. He's right, I agree, but I agree with
you as well. There has to be some kind of
a balance. I don't want to mess with the regular season.
I think in college football we have the best regular
season in any sport. I mean, the the excitement that
you have week after week, the meaning week after week
is awesome. So I don't want to screw with that.
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But there might be a way to tinker with the
playoffs a little bit so that we have the best
of both worlds. We'll see it. You'll see it after
this year, I think. I think after this year, Ohio
State now second year in the in a row where
they're left out of the straight years the Big Ten
champ has not been in the playoff. That's gonna be
a lot of run games for you know, when when
it's a Power five team, it's okay, sure, you know
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they have the cloud money. We're power five? Were you
wait around here? Yeah, you mean to tell me we
were left out of the college football So you gotta
do it. Just invite more teams. You're gonna make a
lot of people have where you know, actually in C
two A, you're gonna make a lot of more, a
lot more money, right like hev'll be happy, more games, more,
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you know, more revenue. People will complained about eight teams.
But you know what it was like. It was like
last year when when everybody was you know, everybody was
all upset because two SEC teams in the National champions
most teams were the highest ever. Pretty million people didn't
turn people away, So that should be intriguing. Last game
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on the docket is Eastern Washington going up against you C. Davis.
That face Stanford. Now, the one thing that I am
concerned about is when I broke down Eastern Washington multiple
quarterback play. Now, there's still an offense that's averaging passing
yawns per game, but a lot of injuries. They have
a lot of depth, but they're utilizing a lot of players,
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so I I am concerned about the offensive continuity heading
into this attall. The one thing I think that I like,
I still like Eastern Washington is they have a balanced offense,
a better defense than you see Davis. You see Davis
has given up a hundred and eighty seven rushing yards
for a game. To me, that's the difference, Mayer that
a quarterback has completed over sixty of his passes. But
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I'm laying the nine points with Eastern Washington in this
ball game. Yeah, we're an agreement in this one. And
you just have to go back a couple of weeks
and and watch the tape, watch the game between e
WU and you see Davis. They played at Eastern Washington
back in November and the Eagles won fifty nine to twenty.
So you know, I'm not saying the game will be
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as lopsided as that first meeting was, but you know, yeah,
they're down in All American quarterback Gage guberd is out
for the season. So Eric Berriair has come in and
done a nice job. But they had the recipe for
beating U. C. Davis. They completely shut down Meyer and
Keilan DAWs who leads the country, leads FCS with a
hundred and nine receptions. So you know, I love the
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which of you see. You know its coach and U C.
Davis these days, and I don't know Dan Hawkins boys
and people have said, let me just say this quickly
about Dan. It wasn't Chris Peterson that brought Boise. He
took boys at the next level. It was Dan Hawkins
that went to Colorado, couldn't get it done and gave
way to John. It was such a surprise to me.
I mean, he did such a good job at boys
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and just get recruited, you know, Martial not to get
your take on this game as well, but when you
see these players about FCS, I see Tarikoh and lighting
it off for the Bears, and see A and T
North Carolina A and T HBCU baby the smaller schools.
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I mean, we've seen Chase Clemens last year for Fordham.
Now he's having great success with Arizona, others other small players. Uh,
you can find NFL talent here. So I mean this
is where I mean teams are made at this level.
And and and here's what I'm gonna say. I give
I say kudos to the guys coming from the small schools.
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And usually when teams draft him, they play well. There's
no there, there's you don't have a bus. If a
guy is playing well, he's not playing with other five
star at least, and he's hitting. You rarely have a
guy come from one of the small schools and at
the next level they're a bus. They might get injured,
they might not maybe can't handle a physicality of the
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game when they come to the next level. But for
the most part, when when when that guy, when you
put him on the field with other talent. He liked
to re coon. He rises up like Carson Wentz. They
rise up, they rise up to the occasion. Yeah, it's
incredibly had that chip on their shoulder a lot of times,
because you know, once in a while you'll have a
power five transfer go to the FCS for more playing
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time or whatever reason. But oftentimes these are kids who
were under recruited. These are these are kids who were
overlooked out of high school. And that chip on the
shoulder that they have they carry right into their NFL career. Uh.
You know you mentioned players in the NFL Cooper Cup.
His brother plays for Eastern Washington, one of their top defenders,
and you can you's got six defensive touchdowns this year.
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So you know, some interesting games as we get clued.
Maine is in Maine one last night there in the semifinals,
so we'll wait to see who the other three team
tams are quickly. More So, I mean, I feel like
the offensive defensive lines in the NFL, this is where
teams get it. This is where they get these players. Yeah,
and you gotta get them from somewhere. They make their
moves by going there. Yeah. So when we come back
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we'll be talking about the big game today. Army and Navy.
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I mean, if you had a bad college football NFL season,
get it back in the in the NBA, right or wrong.
That's what actors lost to the Nets last night. And
all I know is I caught that on ESPN Briefly.
Nets were had an eight game losing streak and snapped
it as a nine point. The Nets uniforms black and white,
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but they had some special soccer unis on yesterday, the Nets.
If you know, I'm so off basketball these days. That
Nets I'm thinking like John Williamson, that's going Backiam dr J.
Of course, I think I think Doc was playing for
the Nets when they were like in Piscataway. I couldn't
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tell you that. I'm just remember this. Yeah, well basketball
is not my fourth day, is that? Lucarneska still with St.
John's and I man, I used to love the Knicks
right around the corner at the garden. That was that.
That's where I spent a lot of my wasted youth
was at MSG. Anthony Mason and I saw, Yeah, John
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Starks forgetting great. He's fantastic. He is one of the
best all time knicks, you know, for the way he
played two all time favorite nicks. Not that anybody cares.
Bob McAdoo, Bernard King, can you get this? This century century?
That's the problems last century, that's the problem. That is
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the problem, right is you know, at least I I
love I loved Anthony Mason. I like the crimson your
face you're talking about like, yeah, right, you're the same age, yeah,
but yeah, but you're talking about like the lunch pale guys,
like they got the dirty coward guy. Don't let the
jacket kids here Okay, so you're not gonna go with
you in or or Mark Jackson or I Love Jackson
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to St. John's Jackson. I like that whole team, that whole,
the whole makeup that team. There was there was so
much grit, you know there, there was so much blue
collar work ethic they were. That's when you could have
you can you could do more than half right the
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same thing. That's when football was football too. That's when
you know it's football football, like we're watching each and
every day. But they're gonna let him play today in
Philadelphia between Army and Navy, I mean this, this rivalry
is unprecedented. Navy does lead the series by a total
margin of sixty to fifty one and seven ties, but
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they've lost two straight to the Cadets. This is a
Cadet offense that's averaging three hundred three rushing yards per game.
They're averaging close to seventy two yards through the air.
Navy does have one of the worst the worst rushing
defenses since two thousand and fourteen, given up a hundred
and eighty nine rushing ars per game. But guess what
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their plus stan turnover Margie and when you could create turnovers,
you have an opportunity. Give me Navy plus the six
and a half outright over the Cadets. Yeah, I like Army.
I'm gonna buck a little bit. I mean, most of
these games are very close. Six of the less seven
meetings between the Academy is decided by a touchdown or less.
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The line in this game is a touchdown. I mentioned
with Jamie and our second segment, the last twelve battles
between Army and Navy all have gone under, so we
don't expect a lot of scoring. Army to me today
and Army over the past couple of years is Navy,
but a much better version of the Navy. And what
Army does if you're gonna run the triple option, you
know what makes it doubly difficult is when you control
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the ball. And right now, Army leads the entire country
in time of possession. Their ability to milk the clock
to wear out defenses one of the reasons why Army
has is so good statistically on defense. Not only do
they have good linebackers, but they hold the ball. No
defense has played fewer plays this year than Army, so
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Army is fresh, Army is talented. Army is rolling. They
have a shot for the first time ever to have
a ten win season. I like Army to cover this game,
not a blowout, but I would say between ten and
thirteen points clearly the better team, Marshal, I'm gonna grow
two statistics at you that to richest point Army converting
converting fifty seven percent on third downs and holding opposing
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offenses to twice seven on third downs. And all by
the way, their plus five in turnover market. Yeah, all
of those things, it points to Army. But um, I
just h there's there's something about Navy and game and
in big games, and you put them under the light,
you put them on a spotlight and and they tend
to just shine and they show up and and and
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not to mention this is this is like Navy has
been awful at stopping a run. Well, if you run
a triple option, guess what you know how to stop
the triple option. They'll they'll be ready, they will be
ready to play today. This game has so much, so
much more of a meaning to to these cadets than
they do to us. I just love watching them go
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out and play with the passion that they play with.
And and um it's it's funny. It was like, wow,
this is this game, is the game that the players
on the field would put their lives and die for
the people watching the players on the field, it's it's
usually it's like it's the other way around, but these guys, man,
it's uh, it's it's an honor to watch this game,
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and it definitely is. It's it's incredible because I wonder
for two things. One, I wonder if Marshall Falk played
in a triple option offense, how many yards? What do
you have? In college? The second thing is what you
and I have spoken about, can you win at the
FBS level outside could uh Naval and Navy Academy schools,
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air Force? Can you win at an elite level? Because
we all Johnson and we talked about this. Paul Johnson
stepping away as head coach from Georgia Tech got it
to a respectable level at seven and five overall and
one or two years to go to a ball game
against Mississippi State and dominated. But again, at the end
of the day, can you be an elite program running
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the triple option? No? I would I would say elite level. No,
I mean, I don't think you're gonna win national championships
these days by running the option. Where I think it's
valuable is when we look at these academies, Army and
Navy are not getting the same caliber of athlete as
elite programs. The way you have a difference maker, the
way you can narrow the gap is by running an
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offense that most opposing defenses are not accustomed to. So
Army and Navy has been able to be competitive for
such a long period of time, not in spite of,
but because of those offenses. I think if they were
running a pro style, they just wouldn't get the caliber
of kids to compete. And I think it would be
messy on a week to week basis. And that's why
if you're an Army or a Navy or an air Force,
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or if you're a Kansas, if you're less Miles, you know,
I could see Less Miles coming up with more triple
option based offense and taking Kansas not to an elite level,
but instead of being too intent every year, I think
you could be the team that no one wants to face.
No one wants to face the triple option. And if
you have a program like Kansas or an academy. I
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think it's uh. I think it's something you can utilize.
We saw Kansas State give a variation of that in
terms of ground impound and run the football with Bill
Snyder right, so with mobile quarterbacks exactly. So in the
Big Twelve, Marshall, you saw the one game that Kyler
Murray and the crew struggled they were locked twenty one
apiece against Army and how to pull that game out
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in overtime. Could this be something of a transition that
we could see maybe less Miles doing in the Big
Twelve against these high octane offenses that don't play a
stitch of defense. If you if you run the triple option,
and okay, if Alabama ran the triple option, they'd be
just as successful. I mean it's just when you have
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the talent, it really doesn't matter what offense you decide
to run. You are going to somehow, some way be elite.
And think think about it. If Jalen Hurts was running
a triple option at Alabama lethal, I mean, he'd have
a lot of the rush yards. But the thing is
when they decided to throw, oh my god, it would
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be so open because you have to commit to stopping hurt.
You have to commit to stopping him in the in
the in the triple option. So what it worked, Yes,
and I agree with both of you guys. It is
it is so different in football. You you actually have
to practice, like when you have a triple option team
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on your schedule every week, you have to work on
certain things in your schedule for the triple option. So
when you get there, your players understand, like we've been
we we taught you this, we worked on this because
it's so different than what we see. Uh, it would
be just like just like the spread option. In a sense,
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what it has done it kind of levels the level
the playing field. The triple option levels the playing field
because now you chew up clock, you slow down the game,
you make the game a must score or one score game.
And today's quarterbacks, today's offenses in college, they're not used
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to planning games like that. I mean they're they're used
to a D players. Again, if you only at forty
plays on offense, your offensive coordinator has no idea what
the run. It just shortens the game, It makes it,
it makes it. It makes it tough for you on
on the opposite side of the ball. The other offensive coordinator,
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You're like, okay, we have to get a first down.
If we give the ball back, they're gonna eat up more.
The margin of error is completely shot at that point.
One question I wanted to ask Marshall real quick, why
is it? I hear it a lot of times where
you know, coaches will say our defensive lineman hate facing
the triple option, and they just they're kind of like
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ankle biters, right, What what kind of blocks are they
facing from an offensive line that runs a triple option?
That is so damn frustrating for those defensive As a
defensive lineman, you two things you have to be assignment.
I mean the penetration into the backfield, you create a crease.
It's you actually have to play on the same level.
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So it's it's kind of like two gapping. You have
to stand. You have to stand the offensive lineman up
because what they wanna do is once you are, once
you get your responsibility and assignment, then it's stay on
your feet because they want to cut you. They want
to get you down. If they can get you down
and that ball is going outside or the quarterback get
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you flanked, it's it's so hard to stop the option
every run game, every run game, not option. It's about defense,
setting the edge, getting to the point of attack well
against the option. Guess what they want you to do.
They want you to set the edge. They want to
option off the edge that's being set. So it plays
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so different. You're outside guys. They have to they have
to hold you. Gotta allow the quarterback to come to you.
You don't want to attack the quarterback too early because
if you attack the quarterback too early, the pitch happens.
Now your feel or contained guy. If he's not in position,
he's out of position. You get out flanked. It's incredible.
If there's so much you you play, you have to
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play so different. Every defensive tackle is taught get up field,
get in the backfield. You're disruptive. If you get up field,
you get in the backfield. Versus the option, you could
literally run by the dive back. So it's it's so different.
It's playing chess in the checkers world basically, and they
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take advantage of overly aggressive defense. Is the one thing
that LT back in the day was he he would
come from the backside and tackle the ball carrier. You
see it time and time again in college football where
defensive ends want to go down the line of scrimmage.
So that's what the triple option, especially misdirection. They do
a counter option where they fake to dive one way,
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they get the defensive end out of position, and then
they come back backside and they have clear running room
because they have the pitchman coming in motion. So it's incredible.
They're so disciplined that they've been running it each and
every year that they do it better. I mean, these
two schools do it better than anyway, and both see
it in practice. They both see it throughout the years,
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so they both know the nuances, the different wrinkles in
the offense. So you know when you have that opportunity.
And we used to see with Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech
had some great wide receivers even during the triple option days,
right they had you know the Stephen Hills Calvin Johnson
I think was pre trip, but I mean they've had some,
they've had some really good wide receivers because those guys
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a they know how to blockdown field. Every one of
the receivers in this offense know how to blockdown field
and be their average yards per catch often times is
off the charts like North It's crazy. And the one
thing I think, and when you see college football now
and the one thing I can't stand is kids quitting
in the second half. You know they're down by twenty
five points, arm tackles, they're walking back to the huddle.
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You're not gonna see that no matter what the score
is later today. Because both of these schools, even though
they're on the same side, because they they they're they're
giving their their time presenting the military, the military, but
at the end of the day, they do not like
each other. It is well traditionally the worst ride. I mean,
this is a hatred. What I've always said to I've
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been asked this for years. You know, what's what's the
most heated rival what's the most meaning meaningful rivalry? For me,
it's always Army Navy. And one of the things always
point to is not just the hatred between the players,
but how many college football games, how many sporting events
can you say has meaning in Afghanistan or in Iraq
or all over the planet. It's like you're gonna have
it is. I was just about to say that it is.
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It is watched like the super Bowl has watched. This
game is, and I'm glad that they said it is totally.
It used to be like part of the other dealings.
Now it's this game deserves its own Saturday, it really does.
You know, going back to the option, the option, and
I'm not talking about the triple option, the option in general,
it is so difficult and so hard to stop the NFL.
(51:52):
It it has made its way to the NFL. If
you if you watch today's quarterback, I mean outside of
a normal guys dropping back to Drew Brees and and
and uh and Brady, They're they're not really running it.
But most quarterbacks in the league today they are running
a variation if if that defensive end, if they're running
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his own read and that defensive and crashed down quarterbacks
out the back door with the ball. That's how that's
how hard it is to stop the option. And and
now you have to assign a guy to the quarterback,
which means you're you're making them play eleven on eleven. Right,
That's that's Uh. You ever had an athletic quarterback, I'm
thinking Kerl Warner. Harball was somewhat mobile. He was he
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was at I'd give I'd give hard. Hardball was trink Green. No, no,
it was not a runner, was not Who was the
who was the was Robert Holcomb on your on your team?
He was big, you know, big, big burly. Uh he
actually he was. He was the backup half back when
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I at there, and then he moved the full back right.
Holcomb was Holcomb was big back in the day, you know.
I mean you think about some of the players to
talk about the transition to from the game, I mean,
you're talking about a wide open offense. Greatest show on
turf was years ahead of, uh of what we see
in college in pro football. When we come back, we'll
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be talking about the High Pint Trophy. Also talking about
some players in college that can make it on the
next level in the NFL keeper where it is
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