Mike Blewitt and George Kurtz are back again for another edition of Football Full Circle! The guys discuss the recent contract extension for Myles Garrett with the Browns. Mike and George discuss Derrick Henry's new deal with the Titans. Will Derrick Henry be worth the money? Mike and George discuss the outlook for the Tennessee Titans this year. They wrap up the show recapping the Scott Fish Bowl Draft.
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Feel excited to have you on the grid. Talking about
a lot of news this week in the NFL, notably
some big contracts, right George, Yeah, all right. We had
the Francis deadline. Uh that have about Wednesday at four
pm Eastern time? That went the under cabin, Mike, all right,
we started at two and a half. We may have
got the player is wrong. Never saw Derrick Henry getting signed.
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I didn't think that was gonna happen in a million years.
So the Cowboys might get something done with Dak. We
thought Shaw Barrett also might get done. End up being
Chris Jones and Henry as our two players and only
two players big year. Uh not not in a good way,
but a lot of players on signed. History tells you
that if you play on the franchise tag, generally you
don't end up with that team. I think the only
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player of the last eight is a cowboy to Marcus Lawrence, right,
So we will we'll get to each in every player.
Later on this segment, we'll break down Derrick Henry as
we're going to do the Titans today and take a
look at their odds for the season. But we'll started
off in one of the players who wasn't franchise tag
that George said, we both we set the line at
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two and a half players getting signed. I think I
did guess the under. I thought there was a shot
anybody guess. I don't know anybody who I brought it
up to who said the over. Yeah, but two and
a half was the right number because there was a
chance at three in any event didn't happen. But let's
break it down with one of the players who wasn't
a franchise tag player, and that's Myles Garrett. He breaks
the record for the highest average annual value for an
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NFL defensive players contract. His contract extension comes in at
five years, one and twenty five million, one million of
it guaranteed, the biggest number ever for a defensive player,
but the full guarantee is half that. It's fifty million
dollars guaranteed and George, I would say, look, obviously, he
had a major incident last year which led to his suspension,
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which I thought was sort of right on the money
with the number of games he received. He wasn't the
type of player that had a reputation before that got
lost in the moment. He's trying to move past it,
and I think the contract itself goes to prove that
even if you and I and others don't think he's
like the most elite pass rusher out there, we know
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he's really good, and really good pass rushers get paid
eventually they do edge rushers, right, Listen, you mentioned it.
He's good, he's young, could get better. I'm not gonna
say he's the face of the team or anything like that,
but in today's NFL, you need these guys. You need
guys that can get to the person, maybe not sack them,
but just rush them so he's get rid of that
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ball earlier, sooner than they want to suoner they receive
as completing their routes. I'm not saying it's the case
for the Browns, but if you don't have good cover
men that you better have someone get to the quarterback.
You have both, Hey, you're golden here. But in today's NFL,
I mean on defense, it's probably the most important position
and edge rusher. It's why they get paid, like he said,
how much they get paid for guys to get out
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of the quarterback. I don't think Myles Garrett is Aaron
Donald as far as a pure game wrecker, but he's
without the next tier down. He's so you have to
account for. You have the game plan for or Againstindingly,
how you look at it there, you can't let him
run wild back there. He was having a good season
last year until al right, until whatever that unfortunate incident
against Pittsburgh happened. There. He paid the price and hopefully
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he's learned his lesson and hopefully he moves on and
we don't see anything like that in the future. And
a half acts over the last two seasons, and that's
including these. That's removing a six game chunk worry. He
was suspended. So in twenty six games, twenty three and
a half sacks, he had seven as a rookie. We
he had already been optioned for that fifth year option,
so he plays really under a fourth year of a
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rookie deal this year. Then he gets the fifth year option,
this tax on to the end of it. So he's
a Brown George through six. They'll have him for a
long time, seven more years. Yeah, I think I think
it's worth it. I think they're getting him lockdown with
a smart move. These guys, you know, he's a bad punt.
They don't grow on trees, all right, They're hard to find.
You drafted one, you've gotten. You mentioned it almost a
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sack per game. What else do you want? Right, It's
what he does well with team is growing hones. I
don't want to jump on the Cleveland bandwagon again, but
I like all the moves they've made. Uh you know,
I like Baker has been quiet. I think that's good ahead.
Maybe maybe he's growing up in maturans. I think this
whole team really relies on him. God bless you if
he ends up being that player. You know, I don't
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need him to be tick to the Brown Freddy doesn't
like the Browns, but I just needed to be a good,
solid player. So I like what I'm seeing so far
out of him. So yeah, that's it. Brown's having locked
up for the next seven years. And let's go on
to the next player on our list, which is Chris Jones.
Chris Jones, George. We sensed some tension there between Jones
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and the Chiefs. Actions spurred deadlines. Uh he, I don't
think he had signed his tender yet. I'm I'm sort
of forgetting which players had signed their tender. Which hadn't
I believe maybe he was going to. But ultimately, right
before the deadline, they get this deal done. So Jones's
contract is for four years and reaches a total of
eighty five million. Uh. He comes with thirty seven million
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guaranteed at signing, a total of sixty million guaranteed in
case of injury, So sixty million out of the eighty
five a very high percentage of guaranteed money. And George,
the thing that I kept thinking about regarding his deal
is as good as he has been for the last
two years, having your best, most impactful game be the
Super Bowl and the last game that you played really
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really helps in negotiations. Money player, I'll take that, right, Uh.
I mean, we all want our players to play every
single game, but I will take Hey, you play your
best big moments. You know that's what you getting paid for.
So I don't really have a big issue with that,
Like you said in the beginning, I didn't see Chris
Jones getting signed. I didn't think they were going to
do for a multiple reasons. There was some acrimony there.
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He just signed Pat Mahomes to the big deal is
player friendly team from the am sorry, team friendly deal.
So that was a little bit surprising here. But they
got it done. And once again, we know what kind
of guys are gonna get paid, right, I mean a
skill decision players get to the quarterback if you can
a good cornerback. Wide receivers get paid, Quarterbacks get paid,
top offensive lineman generally get paid. And that's about it.
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You know, we know generally safeties aren't getting paid. What's
all leads to the problems with Jamal Adams. Generally running
backs don't get paid. Although we're gonna ball that off
in a segment of two, oh Derrick Henry, So you
could see what teams value and what they don't value.
What what it's easier to come by, and what's not
so easy. I said, I didn't think Jones would ever
get signed, not long time, not to the contract they
signed him to. But you have to hand it to achieves.
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They know what they have, they know what they're going
for and as whatch of people look at that Pat
Mahomes deal and think, oh my god, have a billion dollars.
It's very team friendly and it's allowing them to do
moves like this. And this is why I don't blame
Pat Mahomes are taking I think less than he could
have gotten because I think he was good. As long
as you gonna put that money back in the team.
I want to win. I'm not gonna spend all this
money anyway. I want to win. I want good players
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around me. Chris Jones is one of those good players. Yeah.
I think the Mahomes deal sets up whatever deals they're
going to have to do for their future. And this
was the first one on the list after the Mahomes signing.
There's no coincidence that this one came after the Mahomes deal.
They needed to understand what the long term layout looked
like for Pat Mahomes deal, and now they are in
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business with Chris Jones for the next four years. I
think it's a good deal on both sides. They gave
him a lot of money, but again, he's an impactful player.
You said it right, QB offensive tackle, number one wideouts
on the other side, pass rusher, whether internal or external, uh,
and lockdown corners. That's who's getting the money. There's obviously
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exceptions to that, whether you're Bobby Wagner or uh a
few guards to be mentioned out there, David de Castro
or others, but there are very few exceptions to that.
You pay the guys at those premium positions because they
are rare. So that's the good news for the NFL
players spending the last few minutes. And look, I think
we might even save Dak Prescott for another segment. But uh,
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he's obviously the most high profile of the franchise players
not to be signed. But there were a lot of
guys that were unable to reach these long term deals.
Prescott joins A J. Green, Justin Simmons, who was one
of the players we actually thought was going to get
a deal, Yannick and Dockway we knew that one, Joe Thuney,
Brandon Schuff Hunter, Henry bud Dupree, Leonard Williams, Anthony Harris, Matthew,
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Juden Shack, Barrett. Now that guys, half of those guys
we knew absolutely no way they're getting a long term deal.
A J. Green because he's an unknown. Joe Thuney because
New England wasn't going to do it. Yannick and Gockway
isn't even going to be on the team. We can
get to him in a minute. Brandon Schurf. Washington's got
a lot on their plate right now. I didn't think
they're gonna pay a guard long term Hunter Henry injury issues.
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Bud Dupree, no way, Steelers aren't giving him a long
term deal unless he knocks it out of the park
again this year, and even then probably not because t J.
Watt has to get paid. Leonard Williams, no way. Anthony Harris,
that was there was rumors of him being traded, so
that was unlikely. Matt Judan and Shack Barrett. I thought
those guys were on the table potentially get done. They
don't get done. I don't know that they'll be at
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their team's long term. Baltimore has moved on from impactful
play years depensively in recent years. But I don't know.
Simmons was really the one that I was surprised that
didn't sign everybody else I get it, Well, there's a
reason why we set the over runner so low. Right,
we expect this to get done. A lot of these
deals don't get done for whatever reason. They think they
have a bargain at the franchise. Take or so one year,
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prove it, do it again, as you mentioned with Dupree,
and then we'll talk again. And some teams has never
had any intention. Right, they're gonna get whatever they can
out of the guy and they'll move on there. I
mean the Gowquay. You're right, he's not even playing for
Jacksonville this season. They screwed that up completely. They probably
should have traded him during the draft for whatever they
could have gotten for him. Holding onto him now good luck.
Other teams know, Mike blew It, you're a GM of
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a team. You know, hey, they gotta move them. It's
gonna be at my price, not gonna be at the
price day one. They're not getting multiple number ones in
the Gowkway. I don't think they're getting one number one
from they anybody either there. There apparently have been offers.
You've heard that. The The precedent is Clowney just last
year got traded on August thirty one. So I think
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Jacksonville is just sitting on it waiting for the offers
to come in whoever has offered them the most to
this point doesn't mean that that offers completely off the table.
We know it wasn't a one. So will somebody be
willing to pay a two a month from now? And
I think it's possible. I don't mind them waiting. I
do don't think they're going to get much better than
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what their best offer has already been. I guess they're
just playing out the string on that. Um. I just
don't think this is the year. Might because if once again,
Mike Blue, you're a gem of whatever team, you might
be thinking I'm going to give up a number two.
We may not play this entire season. Yeah, it seems
to we kids at any point, what am I doing here?
And then we gotta sign we gotta sign them long term?
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Do and he wants a lot of money. He wants
Myles Garret money. So that's the big caveat right there
are there are reports stating that in Gockway is willing
to play on the tag now. If he's willing to
do that, many teams can offer, right because it's a
one year deal. But if there if he's going in
a different direction at any point and says I need
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an extension. It's going to be really difficult for them
to get anything. It's gonna be very I just don't
see how it's going to happen here, because how many
teams have seventeen million a hand out under the cat
that are gonna want this Usually it's gonna be a
good team. You have to give up that draft pick conversation,
and you still want to sign him to a long
term deal. You're not gonna get him for a fourth
round pick. Okay, well I'll take that for one year.
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You're gonna probably, like you said, a second round pick,
which is you know, it's not expensive, expensive, but it's
not cheap either, And you have no idea what you're
gonna be able to sign this guy, no idea. I
think Jackson, like I said, I think they should have
taken whatever they could have gotten at the draft. I'm
sure they're receiving offers, but as we hear, it's not
over that they like, you're not getting multiple number one.
I don't think they'll get a number one point. I
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would be surprised. Yeah, Shack Barrett filing agreements over the
pay that he's to receive based on positional adjustment. You
know these outside linebacker slash defensive ends are really just
pass rushers. It's almost one and the same, but they
get paid differently based on where they're classified. So that's
why that's out there. I'm glad we didn't talk about
DAK while saving for another segment. George and I'll be
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So via Pro Football Talk, the league plans a COVID
nineteen list. Players get full pay, and we'll be eligible
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to return to practice after an initial three weeks. Within
the next three weeks, you must move must be moved
back to the active roster, sent to i R, or
released with an injury settlement. That's Part one. There's a
lot to go through here, so I'm gonna do it
in stages. Part two. Dan Graziano reporting that the nfl
P is continually updating its website with COVID information. As
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of seven ten, it said seventy two players were known
to have tested positive. They also have maps showing positive
test numbers in NFL markets. It's available to anyone who
wants to see it, so the links and everything there.
So that's parts one and two. I'll pause there. Let
you digest seventy two players seventeen or an out of
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nineteen hundred. It's actually relatively low number. But how about
the COVID the COVID list, what do you think of that?
I mean, they had to do something like this, they
have to do something like this, I'd like to see
them move us along a little more. Yeah, it's July,
where in mid July now, right with so you might
want to get this in gear here because you know
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what you're gonna fight with the players union right about
what you want, what they want, what they think it's fair.
So I was just I don't want to see these
negotiations going down to the bitter end, especially when you
got they wanted an open of training camp shortly all right,
ten days. Oh, that's going to work. Supposed to be
there on the weekend, right even earlier. Right, that's this
and that's that's not gonna happen. It's not be very
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surprised if that happens. So seventy two, like you said,
that's a good number. That's that's encouraging. You know, I
don't know exactly how many tests you said they did there,
but when I haven't done the math, but that sounds
way low, right, depending on even they only did fift hundred,
that's way low, right, because ten would be when fifty
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half of that's that would be Oh, depending how he
did it could be around three four, good could be.
So maybe it's a little harder than I think, depending
on how many tests they did. But still baseball intake
testing was one point eight to one point nine to
give a comparison um, but I think expectations are probably
in the five to seven percent range based on population statistics.
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Let's just's just say it's just for the arguments, like,
it's fifteen hundred players, I have divide it by one hundred.
That's more. It's not bad. It's not bad, so that
that's it's encouraging. But what we're all worried about, Mike,
is not so much the intake testing. It's when you
start hitting each other, blocking, practicing. That's one that we
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expect the numbers to rise. This is not baseball. Well,
these guys are barely going to touch each other, right,
Maybe the catcher and the umpire and the bat they're
in contact. There's a runner on base the first base
of my cover the base, sure, but outside of that,
they're not all that close. Football, you're close on hell,
you're close before the play with a hudle. Then you're blocking,
then you're tackling. That's where the worry begins. Yeah, we
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talk a lot about the on field stuff. The thing
that I've always been concerned about is like, the fraternization
in the clubhouse is obviously going to be reduced and
there's not gonna be any reporters in there and all
that kind of stuff, But the showers and players like
dressing right next to one another. The locker rooms are big,
but they're not that expansive that you you can socially
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distance everybody. And the amount of towels being used in
bodily fluids and all all that kind of stuff that
that that always seems to me to be as big
of a concern as the guys that are hitting each
other and potentially expelling the virus onto one another. Uh
So that was always a bigger concern of mine. And
speaking of concerns, J J. Watt spoke up this week
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and he says, in the interests of having everyone on
the same page in terms of what we know and
don't know at this time, here are a few things
he's learned about on four NFL p E calls in
the last two weeks with hundreds of other players. Keeping
in mind, rookies are scheduled report this weekend. Uh, here's
what we know and we don't know. We want to
play we want to be as safe as possible. We
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have not received a single valid i D ER infectionous
disease emergency response from any team or the league. We
do not know if there are preseason games or not.
It's assumed to be too it's not definitely to George.
We don't know if there will be daily testing, semi
daily testing, etcetera. We don't know how potential positive COVID
tests would affect contracts, roster spots, etcetera. Nothing has been
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agreed upon regarding what training camp will actually look like
and how the ramp up period would work. Again, we
want to play eating nails at home at the end,
so the testing not knowing that the testing is I'm
not giving him a path ass on that, but I
will say that they're probably still working it out. I'd
imagine there's a team of people at the NFL trying
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to figure out how to do this and how to
do it right there watching MLB screwed up to a
certain degree, so they're gonna try and figure out how
to have this done. I don't even know unless you
have a testing site on on the campus of the
NFL team or college team, I don't know how you're
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gonna be able to turn these tests around so quickly
every day, isn't Isn't that the problem in baseball? Right?
It's one of the problems to talking about in baseball.
That h even the players that I've been mentioning that
in baseball this week. You know what's wrong if you
get if you get a false positive, you can't play
that night. But that's annoying when it takes two days
to figure it out as two games now you missed,
you know football one game missing one game is you
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your season? You know. So there's a lot of stuff
they have to go through, a lot of stuff they
have to figure out here. Uh. I keep saying this
over and over again as fans, well, gonna have to
make adjustments. We're gonna they're gonna be screw ups. There's
even the best of circumstances, they're gonna screw this up.
You're never gonna get to go perfectly. We're gonna have
to live with that. But it makes life difficult for
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everything we do, as far as just rooting for your team,
if you have a wager on the game, you're Fantasy
League DFS, everything is going to be affected by this
because you don't know. You know, eleven thirty, Oh my goddess,
guy's not playing. Where that come from? You don't know why,
because they're not gonna tell you he's unfit to play.
What were the the NHL is doing now? It's just ridiculous,
you know, it's all this other stuff. So all of
us gonna be speculating all the time. You know, in football,
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it's even more speculation because it could be a legit
injury where they're always late, guys get hurt and even
the wolf throws on Saturdays could twisted an ankle. But
when you were here unfit to play, what are we
gonna assume? We're automatically gonna be going to assume it's Corona?
And then what is that effect? Who else got news
in the Blackhawks goalie Corey Crawford, who was deemed unfit
to play. When I read the headline, I hadn't known
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at that point that that's how they were classifying it.
And I'm like, unfit to play? I mean, I'm being told,
really honest, I thought I was like seeing rehab, like
what's going on with Corey Crawford. I swear to you
it was the first thing I thought, and I was like,
I mean, it's got to be a COVID thing for
them to phrase it like that. But I had to
go in read the article. They're saying, he's not here.
We don't know exactly when when he's ready, he'll be here,
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ready to go. Here's the other goalies. They're gonna try
it for the top spot. I'm like, what's wrong with
Corey Crawford? Is he in rehab? I don't I honestly
didn't know. I don't understand what is so wrong about
saying Mike Blue it's not playing today he has COVID.
Where's the negative thing about here's something we're talking about,
a sexual venereal disease or cancer or something. You have COVID,
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you're gonna be out. I mean, I just don't get
it about why y'all typically in this context, because we
constantly talked about the well being and health of the players.
I guess if this were not, that's why it's weird
pr thing. But why would you want the media Jason
Pierre Paul's blew his handoff, and we had reporters going
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and getting medical records of what exactly happened to his hand,
which I thought was wrong at the time because he
suffered a tragedy. Now COVID could ultimately be a tragedy.
So maybe that's why they're doing it that way. I
just think because they want to call control the PR
game that they don't want to to say, oh, you know,
seventeen players on one team Gott Corolla say hey, they
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don't fit to play. You guess that? And I think
it's silly. I think it's absolutely silly. I think they's
just isn't he got Corona? Is nothing negative about it.
We all know what's going to happen. Who do you
think you're fooling? And I said that you're gonna have
every medium member speculating about what the what it is
that in some ways that's worse. They're just saying, hey,
twisted an ankle, Hey he uh, you know, separated a
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should or whatever it might be, he's got COVID. Okay,
we understand. Next you said, like I just told my
story with Corey Crawford, people that that don't know exactly
how they're phrasing it could assume, especially you had a
history not quick up, but Robert Lending used to be
there and Robert Leonard with the blacks now with the
Vegas Gold Night, but he was at the Black Oaks
and the Islands. He did have a drinking problem at
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one time. And when you hear one fit the plug,
you're going to think drugs, alcohol, stuff like that, and
that's that's worse than the and then go. But I
just it buggles the mind that all these sports leads
are doing this. I think this is one way, by
the way, just to sort of get rid of the media.
I think that's certainly sports love. The fact of the
media won't be in the locker rooms anymore. They will
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be uncovering some of those stories. You know. It's uh,
I guess it's the good in the bad. You get
out the negative that they might uncover, But the sport
doesn't get covered as well as a whole, as far
as the game itself, the good things that happen. But
I think the NFL and all these sports are trying
to control the narrative to some degree. Yeah, I wonder.
And they won't be in the locker room. They're probably
socially distant. You're right, it won't be covered as well
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because there are there are stories that emanate from those
types of locker room conversations. I think these will just
be really structured, perhaps in different rooms, the players up
on some sort of a podium, reporters in another room,
massed up, socially distant. Uh. In any event, Um, that's so.
A One more story related to the COVID stuff is
regarding Mark Andrews, uh, the breakout tight end for the
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Ravens last season. Via the Baltimore Son Jonas Schaefer. Ravens
tight end Mark Andrews said Wednesday he will not opt
out due to his health condition. We've got a big
year coming up, Andrew said during his Zoom appearance in
connection with the Children with Diabetes group. He has type
one diabetes. He is making that uh, making that appearance,
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and why he's talking about not opting out. He wants
to be able to do a lot of things. Just
being able to help this team win is exciting for me.
Andrew's decision underscores the reality that most players will choose
to play even if they have enhanced rispectors. George, you
and I talked about this. I was on with game
Manzy during the week talking about this. Something tells me
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speculative obviously, that the nature of football and the the
call ulture surrounding football thinks that guys are gonna try
to play through this, even as they a lot of guys,
not all a lot of guys, I think, even though
they're expressing rightfully expressing concern Richard Sherman, J. J. Watt,
which we just reviewed, I think that a lot of
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these guys are just gonna play through short shelf life
of a career. And I think they want to get
out there and play when they can, when they're getting paid.
I agree. It's also the athletes mindset play that doesn't
even trained through your entire life play. So yes, I
expect them to vall to play as well. I think, listen,
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if I was a professional athlete, the uh you know,
unlessen dr told me it's this is terrible for the health.
You can't do this. I'm playing now if I had
a family, if I want these guys who are a
newborn baby, and I'm going home after each game, and
I don't think I'm playing, I really that's fair to
my wife. I don't think it's fair to my unborn child.
As if I was playing, I listen, uh in baseball,
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it wasn't honey. I'm gonna stay let's stay way for
three much well, hio, hio, all to help you need.
You are a professional hobit. You can probably afford it,
you know. But I'm gonna stay away for three months
and the life. That's fine, go with make the money.
I'm good with that. But I'm not in dange with
anyone else's health. That's where I'm going with that. I'm
write any dangs of mine, but I'm not gonna danger
anybody else. Yeah, true, Okay, that's it for this segment.
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football Full Circle. My man George Kurtzer extension for Derrick
Henry through George four years fifty million dollars twenty five
and a half million dollars. Full guarantee really comes in
these first two years. He's twenty nine at the end
of the deal, so since he was a mid round pick,
there was no fifth year option on the table. He
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was motivated to get this deal because he is a
little bit of an older back for his years in
the league. Right, he came out a little bit older
than some other running backs did. But he gets his
deal here. He didn't break them over the coals, but
he gets a bunch of money guaranteed upfront. Yeah, it's
not Christian McCaffrey's deal. He's the fifth highest paid running
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back due to average annual value. But I actually think
pretty good deal on both sides to me. You know,
it's funny. Now, I'm always for paying the player, right,
I'm always for paying the play. But if I'm a
GM Mike, I'm not doing this. I'm just not doing
it for Derrick Henry. It's not that I don't think
he's great. I think he is. I think he's the
soul of that team. I think he's the one player
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on that team. You might be able he can't get her.
He might be more important than Towne Hill as far
as that's concerned. Wi is unusual for a quarterback. But
the type of running back he is, we really don't
see anymore. Right, He's not trying to go around you,
He's trying to go through you. He gets to do.
I mean, we always say, at least I like to
say that pretty much running back is twenty car crashes
the game. He's worse than that because he's going full speed.
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He like he's trying to run people over. His body
takes a pounding, you know, and that's the kind of pounding.
I don't think he lasts four years. I doubt it.
I would have gone year by year with Derrick Henry
and use them, you know, and I know it sounds terrible,
but that's that's the way the nature of the game here.
I would have used them, given him his three three
fifty touches, four touches, and then probably moved on. You
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drafted running back this year, he to draft another one.
You do it. Your window is probably you know what
the said, couple of years. As far as being competitive,
I don't think they're Suita Bowl contender, not better than
the chief, not better than the Ravens. I'm glad he
got paid. I understand why he took the deal. Get
your money, running back. You're not gonna list forever. But
if I'm a Titans GM, I would not have done this.
So John Robinson does do it. I'll provide a counterpoint
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well since uh, we will debate a little bit here.
So he's the fifth highest paid running back by average
annual value. Obviously McCaffrey's in front of him and Zeke Um.
Missing a couple other names off the top of my head,
but McCaffrey, Zeek paid more than him. Se Quan Uh
probably more than him. I might be missing one more name,
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so you can look it up as I'm talking. So
he's getting the twenty five and a half for the
two years. As you said, there's really no guarantees after that.
They can cut him after two. So you're paying them
to be the fifth best running back now for this year.
By next year, Dalin Cook will have gotten paid. Potentially
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Joe Mixon we'll get paid, and he might be seventh
or eighth. I was paid running back. By next year,
even conceding not of running, not a lot of running
backs get paid. There are potentially going to be two
guys next free agency class, which is loaded that will
get paid and actually push him further down the list.
So by next year, you're paying to be the seventh
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pighest paid running back twelve and a half million dollars.
There is money on the cap. They can move off
of him after the next six to seven hundred touches
over the next two seasons and they'll pay him like that.
After that, then they can cut him. Then they can renegotiate,
extend him a year, bring the average annual salary down
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because look, you're not the same guy anymore, or just
move on from him, frankly, but he won't get be
getting twelve and a half million a year when he's
twenty nine. That's just not going to be the case.
I agree, Like I said, I uh, I'm glad to
get paid. I always have to running back to get pigs.
We know this show flight as sure. He's not going
to have a fifteen year career. That's not what it's
meant to be here. I I understand why the NFL
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p A didn't, but I wish they would have adjusted
something from running backs in the c b A, you know,
to make it more fair. Because right now, man, you
don't want to be a running back. You just don't
want to be a running back coming into the NFL. Yeah,
that's not where the money is. You really need to be,
uh the greatest of the great to truly get paid here.
It's like, you don't want to be a safety on Devin,
you don't want to be a running back on offense,
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Go for a skill position. I thought positional salary caps
or something that have always interested me. I didn't think
they were likely, and they never even really came up
during the entire negotiation. I never I really never heard it,
particularly in terms of quarterback. Just keeping quarterbacks percentage of
salary cap down quarterbacks. I thought could have been something
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to strive for, but I never heard it. And we're
dealing with this next one until So that's the deal
for Derrick Henry. I actually don't think it's that bad
of a deal. I understand people saying I would never
pay a running back that much, but if the money
is there for the next two years, I don't care
that they did it. They paid Tannehill a ton of
money over the next three years. So let's get to
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their odds. George, you have them in front of you.
We're gonna take a look at the Tennessee Titans odds
for this season. All right, to wait with super Bowl
plus three thousand, I think that's at one one sounds
of I don't and I don't think they are I
think they were good. I think they might be the
best overall team as far as they have good special teams.
It's like middle good offense. But I don't think they're
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going to win. It's the middle of the pack. But also,
the odds are skewed in the a f C because
if you're not the Chiefs are the Ravens. Uh, it's
your your odds down the Paths are in there at
seventeen to one um and then it's the Steelers and
Colts at four to one, and the and the Titans
at thirty to one. So really it's about the Chiefs
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in Baltimore upfront. But they beat Baltimore in the playoffs
last year, so obviously it's something to consider as a
long shot. I like how the team is structured. Will
get to that in a minute as we continue to
go through the odds. Okay, so we're not beending on them.
The win was a super Bowl here and I'm thinking
we're going same thing here. We're not gonna go this
direction either to win the a f C plus six hundred.
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The problem is for this, like, yeah, you're you're getting
odds on this at sixteen to one, but when you
were just rather have the Steelers at twelve to one,
better chance there. I'm sure they could win their division.
That's the problem. Well, they're they're not expected to. The
Cults are eleven to one to win the a f
C Championship, and we're going to get to the a
f C South odds right now, Yes, the ANC South odds,
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and this is well plus one st that's plus one
because I can't write no, no, I haven't No, you're right.
The Titans are one sixty five. The Colts are one
thirty five, so they're not favored to win their division.
I think that's about right. I think the Colts listen
if Philip Rivers just doesn't play like you know, Jameis
Winston North, I think they are Colts are the better team.
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I don't want to say by far, but I think
they one of the better teams in the league. I
think the stacked them almost all over the place. But
it comes down to Philip Rivers and all those Pixie
through lest you doesn't have anything left. Uh So, yeah,
the Titan's got some issues there. Plus you know the
fact that the Patriots now signed Cam Newton. That throws
them into this wild card mix two, which I I
don't think they were going to be a wild card team,
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you know, two weeks ago. Now they get Cam Newton.
If he's healthy there, well, they can we win with
division now as well. I still have Buffalo women that division.
If things work out at quarterback for this Dealers and
the Patriots, there are lots of being taken away. That's
the fair I'm saying. Those are highly competitive wild Card
division winning teams. You took in New England, Buffalo, Baltimore, Pittsburgh.
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You want to throw Cleveland and there that's five. You're
throwing Indianapolis Tennessee at seven cases eight and I think
the charges you look at that schedule, I like what
the charge could possibly do it in the first half
of the season. I'll give them nine. So let's we
two teams left without a chair when the music stops.
You know, I do expect the charges to be one
of them is I think Herbert plays too much. But
it means one of these other teams that we like,
maybe Cleveland, you know, tough division with Pittsburgh and Bolltimore
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in there. But I can see it thing Tennessee too,
if they slip up a little bit of tenn Hill
is not that guy, you know, so, and they can't
wait with division with the Colts. Are that team? You know,
there's gonna be There's gonna be one good team I
think in the AFC that doesn't get in. So we'll
take a look. Let's take a look at their schedule,
and we'll determine whether or not the wind total makes sense.
What's the win toll eight and a half eight a half,
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so eight minus one thirty the over. So people betting
market likes them to go over. And here's here's how
they get started. They are at Denver the late game,
Monday night, September fourteen. Obviously, folks, we have to go
with the assumption when we're doing this that the season
is gonna start on time and they're gonna play sixteen games.
So let's utilize that. If you think that we're not,
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we're not. We're just doing this because it's the only
way to reasonably try to handicap something like this or
give you our thoughts on the value brutal. Okay, we'll
see at Denver, Jacksonville, at Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Houston. Those
are all home games. So for their first six before
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the bye week are home games up Jacksonville and Houston.
But I mean the jackson balls, and that's a w there.
That Denver game, it's at Denver Mile High Monday night,
you know, the first game of the season. That's no
easy game there. And then I don't care if it's
at home. Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Houston, Houston, the division game. I mean,
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that's not fun. And then Jaxon is a lot. They
won the division four freaking times in the last five years.
I'd get that. Everybody doesn't like Bill O'Brien, but they
have Deshaun Watson and they're good. But I'm gonna be
good this year actually, But they're not terrible. They stink
in the playoffs, They're not terrible. But then I don't
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think they're the same team. But the thing is, I
don't know they're They're gonna give teams fits in that division.
They can beat Tennessee, they can beat Indianapolis. I don't
think they're gonna be above you know, five a woman
in the division, but they can cause some headaches there.
I just think us and I get worried about the
Starker Tennessee. Yeah, if tann Hill is not up to
par here, I mean, I said, I just keep looking
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at that Minnesota good defense, Pittsburgh very good defense, Buffalo
very good defense used as a good defense as well.
Things get really I mean that things go wrong for
them and they end up being two and four. You know,
it's give me a real rough. They better take advantage
of the easier start of the second half after the
bye week. I like the fact that they have Pittsburgh
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and Buffalo are home games because they can they'll take
one of those. Are there any Is there any advantage
having a home game this year now? Not as big
as one. We don't know how any people. I don't know.
I have no idea about Tennessee and how many fans
they're going to have in the stands, you know, as
the advantage, it won't be as good. And I think
Buffalo and Pitts are both better teams. I'm supposed to
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be in Tennessee in August and it's looking less likely
by the day, so uh, all right, So the bye
week we got it. Weeks they come out of the
bye week at Cincinnati, Chicago, they got the Colts at
and this is tough, Indianapolis at Baltimore, Indianapolis and the
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indian the Indie game, though the first one is that
is the home game is a Thursday. That helps um
then Cleveland, then at Jacksonville, Detroit, at green Bay, at Houston.
They got a bunch of swing teams on here on
this schedule, which it makes it a little bit more difficult.
But honestly, I'm leaning towards the over, but I don't
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like it enough to bet it right now, if for
no other reason that I like the Titans every year
for the last four years and they can't get going.
It's two different coaching staffs now they can't seem to
get going. They made the playoffs last year and they
get the two wins, and nobody can take that away.
But if you look closely at him, you remember, and
you and I talked about this all the time. They
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should not have made the playoffs except for the fact
that the Stealers were abysmo and scored ten points in
each of their last three games, losing all of them. Um,
it was a nightmare for the stealers and it allowed
the Titans to get in so it was indicative of
them not really taking care of business early in the season.
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This smells throughout an eighteen. He posted the schedule, but
it smells to be like eight and eight. Uh as
I think a part of my I guess make it
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Football Fulls Circle and George talking about my team, my
latest fantasy team. George And for those that don't know,
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George and I came up in this industry as fantasy
football and baseball analysts. We've been with sports but a
long time, so we talked about all sports from time
to time. This show has got us in the groove
of talking football and we like to mix it up
every once in a while and talk a little bit
of fantasy because we have a lot of experience in
that regard, and many of you out there that are
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watching a sports wagering channel are obviously dabbling in fantasy
as well. And there's a high profile league that George
and I have played in in years past. I'm in
it this year. Uh. George's my consol Yerry for this season,
and we're going with Scott fish Ball. This is the
tenth edition. It's a great league for those that don't know. Uh.
A lot of money donated to charity on behalf of
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Fantasy Cares dot net, which ultimately results in a sort
of toys for tots uh uh windfall for many kids.
Right around Chris must time at the end of the
football regular season. So I got through my draft, finished
it earlier this week. Twenty two rounds, so you have
a twenty two man roster. It's twelve team divisions. There
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are over fourteen hundred teams in the entirety of the league,
so it's highly competitive. You really need a thread the
needle in order to have a good team, George, and
even when you're having good runs, you can fall apart.
There was a time a couple of years ago I
was in first place in the whole darn thing, and
it fell apart. It just it fell apart. At the
end of the year. You really need to keep putting
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up big numbers in order to stay on top of
that league. And we'll see if I can do it.
My screen, my team is displayed on the screen right
now for you. Um you get a bump for it's
a half point PPR half point first down league, and
you get a bump for tight ends. They're going to
get a full point PPR and a full full point
for first downs. Additionally, it is a super flex league,
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so you can play up to two quarterbacks, and the
order back bonuses are different this year. George, You're getting
half a point through completion, minus one for an incompletion.
Uh six point touchdowns, but if you throw a pick,
it's minus four and if you throw a pick, six
touchdown is taken away. So there are significant penalties there. Uh.
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I decided that quarterback was going to be a premium
for me this year. I don't always consider that in
every super flex league. But you have to read the
room as well, and this is what I did. You
and I went over a little bit last week. The
top of my draft, which was Kelsey, Kyler Murray, DeAndre Hopkins,
Aaron Rodgers. So I stacked Kyler, Murray and DeAndre Hopkins,
hoping for a big connection in Cliff Kingsbury's offense. I
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rounded out with Aaron Rodgers and David Johnson. That's my
top five. What do you think? I think you did
very well here. I keep looking at you play. It's
it's very similar to a drift that I would have
because I look at the second half. First they half,
very few people are screwed up, but a second of
you a lot of good, good depth, good reserve place
that I would grab veterans that are still out there.
You didn't take a lot of chances. You can go
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for the home run play. You know you got Mohammed
Snow in round Dolan. Round twenty two was a nice
grap here once again, good depth to help on boys,
could help with injuries here. You know what bugs me
about that? In round twenty two, I was lining up
Marquez Valdes scandling with Aaron Rodgers because I already had Lazard.
I was like, let me just get the other guy.
In case it's not Lazard, I'll get Marquess Valdest Candling.
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There was no indication that anybody was going to take him,
and I the way I set up my auto draft,
I picked the new first instead of him. Somebody took
him on the turn, so I ended up with Amondola.
It's not terrible, Dany Amndola could have seventy five catches
this year and he's the last pick in the twenty
two round draft. For me, he's a very safe play.
This is a PPR the you getta get points for that,
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so I like this. I also like the fact that, man,
you have to have one of the better quarterback combinations here.
I mean you got Kyler Murray. Aren't Rodgers Baker Mayfield.
I mean you're covered with an injury, You're okay when
a guy goes down. Oh, and I took Jordan's Love
late to in case Aaron Rodgers gets hurt and Love
becomes some super rookie. Um. I took him in the
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twentieth round. The Baker thing was not a plan at all.
It was just the tenth round. I was like, are
you kidding me? And I'm not gonna start drafting my
fifth running back here that Baker Mayfield is on the board.
Aaron Rodgers has gotten hurt in the past. He's thirty six,
thirty seven years old, Like I got a younger guy,
and if what if the Browns offense explodes? Like what
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if the Browns in this league? You need a third quarterback? Yeah,
you know it's it's burned me a time with two
white and have that guy last year? You we are
we are absolutely products of our experiences. And last year
I screwed myself by cutting Ryan Tannehill too soon, uh
to back up Mariota. And then I had another QB
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get hurt, and I had weeks or by weeks and
everything else. I had weeks where I was playing one
quarterback in it. It lost me games and I was
out of the playoffs. And this is why we always
tell you know you league rules. I did quarterback in
this league? Is he minsally important this year? Are you?
You're not gonna win one quarterback. If you only drive
the two quarterbacks and one goes down, you can't get
the bag because you were outbid or you didn't have
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he wasn't handcuffed. You're dead. You're just dead. In this league.
There's too many points going to a quarterback. It's probably
the only thing I don't like about the scott Fish
bowlers uh this year is the half point for the
completion two. That's probably too much. It's already six points
for a touchdown pass. You know, the quarterback is always
get the most points. Anyway, now you've added to it.
This is why in some leagues, uh, some scott Fish
Bowl leagues, you saw quarterbacks going crazy. I know Matthew
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Berry of ESPN was complaining and he in his league.
I think he didn't drip a collect to round three
and he's dead because he's he likes his team, but
his quarterbacks are not very good because they went quarterback
crazy in his league. And you said, you got to
you gotta read the room. You gotta read your league, man,
because I've been in so many scott Fish Bowls where
last year I got Pat Mahomes fourth pick, second round. No,
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we took Quarteback A shocked even I did the first round.
As I read it, I'm like, okay, quarterbacks are falling here.
But I've also been in leagues where eight go in
the first round. I just never really know. Yeah, so
you know where I was. I thought I really wanted Kyler.
I had a choice between Kyler and Russell Wilson. I
went to Kyler route. I think there's a scoch more
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upside even though Safer, I'm going like big upside here,
which is kind of where you have to hit home
runs in this league. Deshaun Watson had gone off the board,
that would have been a consideration as well. The fact
that I got Aaron Rodgers in the fourth round. Find
maybe I could have waited, maybe I could have gotten
a better high end running back, but in this league,
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I just decided to wait. I still have seven running
backs that matter. David Johnson, look here here are my
big questions that I have for my league. And I
said it in a tweet earlier this week. Um, there's
a couple of things I'll be thinking about in this draft.
I mentioned the Marquets Baltist Gantling thing, which was late.
He was somebody that I wanted a little bit later.
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But can David Johnson be better than I and many
expect George? You actually like him a little bit more
than I do. And my other major question is taking
a j Brown over Odell Beckham. So I had no
idea I was ever going to get Baker Mayfield. I
wish now that I had Beckham instead of A J. Brown,
because I have Baker and I can team those guys
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up potentially, But um, you know, O'Dell gets hurt. I
get that the Titans don't throw a lot. But A J.
Brown established himself as a rookie, as a real as
a force to be reckoned with. I think he's going
to be a really good player. Do I think he's
an elite number one A one talent like Beckham has been.
Probably not, but there's very few of those guys, and um,
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that was a choice. I decided to go with A J. Brown.
I might regret it a little bit, but it is
what it is. I in the moment, I just had
concerns about Beckham and the fact that there still our
question marks surrounding the Browns. I would have gone with Beckham,
by the way. I just thought I'm gonna go with
a better player here that once see. I had my
doubts about tan Hill, so that would have been my
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choice there. I said, you know, I'm I'm higher than
most on David Johnson. Not that I expect him to
be a great running back. I just think there's roof
him to do damage in Houston. I think Pprley's gonna
scores some points, and I keep going back. I had
David Johnson on a couple of teams last year. He
was doing well until the injury, you know, and listen,
I understand the most important ability is availability, but he
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also got while he pipped, you know, and I don't
think it's gonna happen in Houston. So I kind of
like what David Johnson can do for you here, and
you did that once again. It's a very simpl floss
that I would do if if I don't get a
top running back, I'll take you a lot of running backs,
you know. If that's the muddy against the wall theory,
and I'm gonna hope something sticks. You got your call,
when you got your Lindsay, You've got your white, you
got safe place. You guys are not gonna rack up
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points for you, but hey, you know, they'll get you
something each and every week. And you don't have to
rely on your other position just to win here. Kelsey's
gonna have to come through you. Your quarterback is gonna
have to come through for you. That's where your strength is.
And it's Scott fish Bowl. We're all gonna have question marks. Sure, sure,
I mean and the two things I'm really banking on
and other you know, there's there's a lot of things
you need to happen in order to be really good
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in this league. But I'm banking on Cliff Kingsbury, obviously,
Kyler and DeAndre Hopkins. I got Larry Fitzgerald in the
fifteenth round. That's another guy who could have eighty catches.
Like his numbers weren't bad last year. They weren't, so
he's not putting up fifteen hundred yard seasons anymore. He's
a slot possession receiver in a league that's which rewards
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first downs. Um So, I think if this Cardinals offense
exploded and I had the two two of the top receivers,
that's interesting. I also had Kirk targeted that didn't work out,
a couple of guys I wanted. And the other thing
I'll be banking on is Tevin Coleman, Ah, Philip Lindsay
and potentially Tony Pollard being bigger parts of their offense
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than some people anticipate. I think I had one of
the earliest draft picks in the whole league of Tevin
Coleman was around the time the Raheem Moster news came out.
Why I don't think he'll be traded. I think is
absolutely a possibility where Tevin Coleman is as valuable as
Raheem Mostard, as good as most it was down the stretch.
I think it's a possibility that Coleman will get plenty
of valuable touches and first downs and touchdowns. Right, he
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had some explosive games last year. If he's healthy longer,
maybe we see a little bit more um Tony Pollard.
Obviously that would necessitate some sort of an injury for Zeke,
But what of Zeke is out with COVID for three
weeks or whatever it is, then Tony Pollard gets me
some points there as a number one running back and Pollard,
which it's been pretty good in spots. George, the Cowboys
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fan and analysts would know Pollard is a good back. Yeah,
so Pollard. Next thing, I think of Madison in Minnesota,
same thing. They're the reason why you don't pay the
top running back because you find other guys you didn't
even know about. Then at the turning on being pretty
good backs plot, He's not a Zekel, Ellie's not Barkley,
but he's a good solid back here that can help
a team as like I'm a Cowboy fan. If Elliott
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goes down, I'll be honestly, I'm not all that worried
about the office. I think they'd be just fine with followed. Yeah, yeah,
my other tight ends. I drafted Kelsey early and then
waited a long time, and the up with Jack Doyle
and O J. Howard. Um, you know, I'm always gonna
have a little bit of faith in Jack Doyle. I
I didn't never know what it's gonna look like. But
Ebron is not there anymore. And O J. Howard, who knows,
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Maybe maybe he listens to Gronk and and he and
Brady get on the same page. And O J. Howard
as a decent season. But I'm not going to cry
about my sixteenth round uh depth chart tight end picks.
I think I did okay here, James White, Jeff, you know,
I'm in obviously on the San Francisco running game. If
raheem Moster goes down, I don't expect McKinnon to be
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anything this year. I got Coleman and Jeff Wilson there,
so Emmanuel Sanders is my third white out. Kind of interesting.
I don't know what that's gonna look like. He's coming
off of injuries and everything else. But he was a
factor at the end of the year last year with
the Niners. I'm surprised he left her that long. What
we say a round a levin what's gonna is this
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a super flex lay with the weird rules, So it's
probably more the equivalent of round nine. Yeah, you know
most leagues. I would say, even that's still a little
deeper than I would I think he'd be available on
a lot of leagues. There. I staid, you're you've got
the TV here where you'll compete. You didn't screw a
draft up, you'll compete. Now. It'll come That's what myself
tells so many people who ask me. It'll come down
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the right moves during the season, which you can't control. Yeah,
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Feel excited to have you on the grid. Talking about
a lot of news this week in the NFL, notably
some big contracts, right George, Yeah, all right. We had
the Francis deadline. Uh that have about Wednesday at four
pm Eastern time? That went the under cabin, Mike, all right,
we started at two and a half. We may have
got the player is wrong. Never saw Derrick Henry getting signed.
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I didn't think that was gonna happen in a million years.
So the Cowboys might get something done with Dak. We
thought Shaw Barrett also might get done. End up being
Chris Jones and Henry as our two players and only
two players big year. Uh not not in a good way,
but a lot of players on signed. History tells you
that if you play on the franchise tag, generally you
don't end up with that team. I think the only
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player of the last eight is a cowboy to Marcus Lawrence, right,
So we will we'll get to each in every player.
Later on this segment, we'll break down Derrick Henry as
we're going to do the Titans today and take a
look at their odds for the season. But we'll started
off in one of the players who wasn't franchise tag
that George said, we both we set the line at
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two and a half players getting signed. I think I
did guess the under. I thought there was a shot
anybody guess. I don't know anybody who I brought it
up to who said the over. Yeah, but two and
a half was the right number because there was a
chance at three in any event didn't happen. But let's
break it down with one of the players who wasn't
a franchise tag player, and that's Myles Garrett. He breaks
the record for the highest average annual value for an
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NFL defensive players contract. His contract extension comes in at
five years, one and twenty five million, one million of
it guaranteed, the biggest number ever for a defensive player,
but the full guarantee is half that. It's fifty million
dollars guaranteed and George, I would say, look, obviously, he
had a major incident last year which led to his suspension,
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which I thought was sort of right on the money
with the number of games he received. He wasn't the
type of player that had a reputation before that got
lost in the moment. He's trying to move past it,
and I think the contract itself goes to prove that
even if you and I and others don't think he's
like the most elite pass rusher out there, we know
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he's really good, and really good pass rushers get paid
eventually they do edge rushers, right, Listen, you mentioned it.
He's good, he's young, could get better. I'm not gonna
say he's the face of the team or anything like that,
but in today's NFL, you need these guys. You need
guys that can get to the person, maybe not sack them,
but just rush them so he's get rid of that
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ball earlier, sooner than they want to suoner they receive
as completing their routes. I'm not saying it's the case
for the Browns, but if you don't have good cover
men that you better have someone get to the quarterback.
You have both, Hey, you're golden here. But in today's NFL,
I mean on defense, it's probably the most important position
and edge rusher. It's why they get paid, like he said,
how much they get paid for guys to get out
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of the quarterback. I don't think Myles Garrett is Aaron
Donald as far as a pure game wrecker, but he's
without the next tier down. He's so you have to
account for. You have the game plan for or Againstindingly,
how you look at it there, you can't let him
run wild back there. He was having a good season
last year until al right, until whatever that unfortunate incident
against Pittsburgh happened. There. He paid the price and hopefully
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he's learned his lesson and hopefully he moves on and
we don't see anything like that in the future. And
a half acts over the last two seasons, and that's
including these. That's removing a six game chunk worry. He
was suspended. So in twenty six games, twenty three and
a half sacks, he had seven as a rookie. We
he had already been optioned for that fifth year option,
so he plays really under a fourth year of a
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rookie deal this year. Then he gets the fifth year option,
this tax on to the end of it. So he's
a Brown George through six. They'll have him for a
long time, seven more years. Yeah, I think I think
it's worth it. I think they're getting him lockdown with
a smart move. These guys, you know, he's a bad punt.
They don't grow on trees, all right, They're hard to find.
You drafted one, you've gotten. You mentioned it almost a
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sack per game. What else do you want? Right, It's
what he does well with team is growing hones. I
don't want to jump on the Cleveland bandwagon again, but
I like all the moves they've made. Uh you know,
I like Baker has been quiet. I think that's good ahead.
Maybe maybe he's growing up in maturans. I think this
whole team really relies on him. God bless you if
he ends up being that player. You know, I don't
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need him to be tick to the Brown Freddy doesn't
like the Browns, but I just needed to be a good,
solid player. So I like what I'm seeing so far
out of him. So yeah, that's it. Brown's having locked
up for the next seven years. And let's go on
to the next player on our list, which is Chris Jones.
Chris Jones, George. We sensed some tension there between Jones
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and the Chiefs. Actions spurred deadlines. Uh he, I don't
think he had signed his tender yet. I'm I'm sort
of forgetting which players had signed their tender. Which hadn't
I believe maybe he was going to. But ultimately, right
before the deadline, they get this deal done. So Jones's
contract is for four years and reaches a total of
eighty five million. Uh. He comes with thirty seven million
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guaranteed at signing, a total of sixty million guaranteed in
case of injury, So sixty million out of the eighty
five a very high percentage of guaranteed money. And George,
the thing that I kept thinking about regarding his deal
is as good as he has been for the last
two years, having your best, most impactful game be the
Super Bowl and the last game that you played really
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really helps in negotiations. Money player, I'll take that, right, Uh.
I mean, we all want our players to play every
single game, but I will take Hey, you play your
best big moments. You know that's what you getting paid for.
So I don't really have a big issue with that,
Like you said in the beginning, I didn't see Chris
Jones getting signed. I didn't think they were going to
do for a multiple reasons. There was some acrimony there.
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He just signed Pat Mahomes to the big deal is
player friendly team from the am sorry, team friendly deal.
So that was a little bit surprising here. But they
got it done. And once again, we know what kind
of guys are gonna get paid, right, I mean a
skill decision players get to the quarterback if you can
a good cornerback. Wide receivers get paid, Quarterbacks get paid,
top offensive lineman generally get paid. And that's about it.
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You know, we know generally safeties aren't getting paid. What's
all leads to the problems with Jamal Adams. Generally running
backs don't get paid. Although we're gonna ball that off
in a segment of two, oh Derrick Henry, So you
could see what teams value and what they don't value.
What what it's easier to come by, and what's not
so easy. I said, I didn't think Jones would ever
get signed, not long time, not to the contract they
signed him to. But you have to hand it to achieves.
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They know what they have, they know what they're going
for and as whatch of people look at that Pat
Mahomes deal and think, oh my god, have a billion dollars.
It's very team friendly and it's allowing them to do
moves like this. And this is why I don't blame
Pat Mahomes are taking I think less than he could
have gotten because I think he was good. As long
as you gonna put that money back in the team.
I want to win. I'm not gonna spend all this
money anyway. I want to win. I want good players
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around me. Chris Jones is one of those good players. Yeah.
I think the Mahomes deal sets up whatever deals they're
going to have to do for their future. And this
was the first one on the list after the Mahomes signing.
There's no coincidence that this one came after the Mahomes deal.
They needed to understand what the long term layout looked
like for Pat Mahomes deal, and now they are in
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business with Chris Jones for the next four years. I
think it's a good deal on both sides. They gave
him a lot of money, but again, he's an impactful player.
You said it right, QB offensive tackle, number one wideouts
on the other side, pass rusher, whether internal or external, uh,
and lockdown corners. That's who's getting the money. There's obviously
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exceptions to that, whether you're Bobby Wagner or uh a
few guards to be mentioned out there, David de Castro
or others, but there are very few exceptions to that.
You pay the guys at those premium positions because they
are rare. So that's the good news for the NFL
players spending the last few minutes. And look, I think
we might even save Dak Prescott for another segment. But uh,
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he's obviously the most high profile of the franchise players
not to be signed. But there were a lot of
guys that were unable to reach these long term deals.
Prescott joins A J. Green, Justin Simmons, who was one
of the players we actually thought was going to get
a deal, Yannick and Dockway we knew that one, Joe Thuney,
Brandon Schuff Hunter, Henry bud Dupree, Leonard Williams, Anthony Harris, Matthew,
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Juden Shack, Barrett. Now that guys, half of those guys
we knew absolutely no way they're getting a long term deal.
A J. Green because he's an unknown. Joe Thuney because
New England wasn't going to do it. Yannick and Gockway
isn't even going to be on the team. We can
get to him in a minute. Brandon Schurf. Washington's got
a lot on their plate right now. I didn't think
they're gonna pay a guard long term Hunter Henry injury issues.
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Bud Dupree, no way, Steelers aren't giving him a long
term deal unless he knocks it out of the park
again this year, and even then probably not because t J.
Watt has to get paid. Leonard Williams, no way. Anthony Harris,
that was there was rumors of him being traded, so
that was unlikely. Matt Judan and Shack Barrett. I thought
those guys were on the table potentially get done. They
don't get done. I don't know that they'll be at
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their team's long term. Baltimore has moved on from impactful
play years depensively in recent years. But I don't know.
Simmons was really the one that I was surprised that
didn't sign everybody else I get it, Well, there's a
reason why we set the over runner so low. Right,
we expect this to get done. A lot of these
deals don't get done for whatever reason. They think they
have a bargain at the franchise. Take or so one year,
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prove it, do it again, as you mentioned with Dupree,
and then we'll talk again. And some teams has never
had any intention. Right, they're gonna get whatever they can
out of the guy and they'll move on there. I
mean the Gowquay. You're right, he's not even playing for
Jacksonville this season. They screwed that up completely. They probably
should have traded him during the draft for whatever they
could have gotten for him. Holding onto him now good luck.
Other teams know, Mike blew It, you're a GM of
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a team. You know, hey, they gotta move them. It's
gonna be at my price, not gonna be at the
price day one. They're not getting multiple number ones in
the Gowkway. I don't think they're getting one number one
from they anybody either there. There apparently have been offers.
You've heard that. The The precedent is Clowney just last
year got traded on August thirty one. So I think
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Jacksonville is just sitting on it waiting for the offers
to come in whoever has offered them the most to
this point doesn't mean that that offers completely off the table.
We know it wasn't a one. So will somebody be
willing to pay a two a month from now? And
I think it's possible. I don't mind them waiting. I
do don't think they're going to get much better than
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what their best offer has already been. I guess they're
just playing out the string on that. Um. I just
don't think this is the year. Might because if once again,
Mike Blue, you're a gem of whatever team, you might
be thinking I'm going to give up a number two.
We may not play this entire season. Yeah, it seems
to we kids at any point, what am I doing here?
And then we gotta sign we gotta sign them long term?
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Do and he wants a lot of money. He wants
Myles Garret money. So that's the big caveat right there
are there are reports stating that in Gockway is willing
to play on the tag now. If he's willing to
do that, many teams can offer, right because it's a
one year deal. But if there if he's going in
a different direction at any point and says I need
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an extension. It's going to be really difficult for them
to get anything. It's gonna be very I just don't
see how it's going to happen here, because how many
teams have seventeen million a hand out under the cat
that are gonna want this Usually it's gonna be a
good team. You have to give up that draft pick conversation,
and you still want to sign him to a long
term deal. You're not gonna get him for a fourth
round pick. Okay, well I'll take that for one year.
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You're gonna probably, like you said, a second round pick,
which is you know, it's not expensive, expensive, but it's
not cheap either, And you have no idea what you're
gonna be able to sign this guy, no idea. I
think Jackson, like I said, I think they should have
taken whatever they could have gotten at the draft. I'm
sure they're receiving offers, but as we hear, it's not
over that they like, you're not getting multiple number one.
I don't think they'll get a number one point. I
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would be surprised. Yeah, Shack Barrett filing agreements over the
pay that he's to receive based on positional adjustment. You
know these outside linebacker slash defensive ends are really just
pass rushers. It's almost one and the same, but they
get paid differently based on where they're classified. So that's
why that's out there. I'm glad we didn't talk about
DAK while saving for another segment. George and I'll be
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So via Pro Football Talk, the league plans a COVID
nineteen list. Players get full pay, and we'll be eligible
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to return to practice after an initial three weeks. Within
the next three weeks, you must move must be moved
back to the active roster, sent to i R, or
released with an injury settlement. That's Part one. There's a
lot to go through here, so I'm gonna do it
in stages. Part two. Dan Graziano reporting that the nfl
P is continually updating its website with COVID information. As
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of seven ten, it said seventy two players were known
to have tested positive. They also have maps showing positive
test numbers in NFL markets. It's available to anyone who
wants to see it, so the links and everything there.
So that's parts one and two. I'll pause there. Let
you digest seventy two players seventeen or an out of
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nineteen hundred. It's actually relatively low number. But how about
the COVID the COVID list, what do you think of that?
I mean, they had to do something like this, they
have to do something like this, I'd like to see
them move us along a little more. Yeah, it's July,
where in mid July now, right with so you might
want to get this in gear here because you know
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what you're gonna fight with the players union right about
what you want, what they want, what they think it's fair.
So I was just I don't want to see these
negotiations going down to the bitter end, especially when you
got they wanted an open of training camp shortly all right,
ten days. Oh, that's going to work. Supposed to be
there on the weekend, right even earlier. Right, that's this
and that's that's not gonna happen. It's not be very
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surprised if that happens. So seventy two, like you said,
that's a good number. That's that's encouraging. You know, I
don't know exactly how many tests you said they did there,
but when I haven't done the math, but that sounds
way low, right, depending on even they only did fift hundred,
that's way low, right, because ten would be when fifty
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half of that's that would be Oh, depending how he
did it could be around three four, good could be.
So maybe it's a little harder than I think, depending
on how many tests they did. But still baseball intake
testing was one point eight to one point nine to
give a comparison um, but I think expectations are probably
in the five to seven percent range based on population statistics.
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Let's just's just say it's just for the arguments, like,
it's fifteen hundred players, I have divide it by one hundred.
That's more. It's not bad. It's not bad, so that
that's it's encouraging. But what we're all worried about, Mike,
is not so much the intake testing. It's when you
start hitting each other, blocking, practicing. That's one that we
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expect the numbers to rise. This is not baseball. Well,
these guys are barely going to touch each other, right,
Maybe the catcher and the umpire and the bat they're
in contact. There's a runner on base the first base
of my cover the base, sure, but outside of that,
they're not all that close. Football, you're close on hell,
you're close before the play with a hudle. Then you're blocking,
then you're tackling. That's where the worry begins. Yeah, we
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talk a lot about the on field stuff. The thing
that I've always been concerned about is like, the fraternization
in the clubhouse is obviously going to be reduced and
there's not gonna be any reporters in there and all
that kind of stuff, But the showers and players like
dressing right next to one another. The locker rooms are big,
but they're not that expansive that you you can socially
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distance everybody. And the amount of towels being used in
bodily fluids and all all that kind of stuff that
that that always seems to me to be as big
of a concern as the guys that are hitting each
other and potentially expelling the virus onto one another. Uh
So that was always a bigger concern of mine. And
speaking of concerns, J J. Watt spoke up this week
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and he says, in the interests of having everyone on
the same page in terms of what we know and
don't know at this time, here are a few things
he's learned about on four NFL p E calls in
the last two weeks with hundreds of other players. Keeping
in mind, rookies are scheduled report this weekend. Uh, here's
what we know and we don't know. We want to
play we want to be as safe as possible. We
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have not received a single valid i D ER infectionous
disease emergency response from any team or the league. We
do not know if there are preseason games or not.
It's assumed to be too it's not definitely to George.
We don't know if there will be daily testing, semi
daily testing, etcetera. We don't know how potential positive COVID
tests would affect contracts, roster spots, etcetera. Nothing has been
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agreed upon regarding what training camp will actually look like
and how the ramp up period would work. Again, we
want to play eating nails at home at the end,
so the testing not knowing that the testing is I'm
not giving him a path ass on that, but I
will say that they're probably still working it out. I'd
imagine there's a team of people at the NFL trying
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to figure out how to do this and how to
do it right there watching MLB screwed up to a
certain degree, so they're gonna try and figure out how
to have this done. I don't even know unless you
have a testing site on on the campus of the
NFL team or college team, I don't know how you're
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gonna be able to turn these tests around so quickly
every day, isn't Isn't that the problem in baseball? Right?
It's one of the problems to talking about in baseball.
That h even the players that I've been mentioning that
in baseball this week. You know what's wrong if you
get if you get a false positive, you can't play
that night. But that's annoying when it takes two days
to figure it out as two games now you missed,
you know football one game missing one game is you
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your season? You know. So there's a lot of stuff
they have to go through, a lot of stuff they
have to figure out here. Uh. I keep saying this
over and over again as fans, well, gonna have to
make adjustments. We're gonna they're gonna be screw ups. There's
even the best of circumstances, they're gonna screw this up.
You're never gonna get to go perfectly. We're gonna have
to live with that. But it makes life difficult for
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everything we do, as far as just rooting for your team,
if you have a wager on the game, you're Fantasy
League DFS, everything is going to be affected by this
because you don't know. You know, eleven thirty, Oh my goddess,
guy's not playing. Where that come from? You don't know why,
because they're not gonna tell you he's unfit to play.
What were the the NHL is doing now? It's just ridiculous,
you know, it's all this other stuff. So all of
us gonna be speculating all the time. You know, in football,
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it's even more speculation because it could be a legit
injury where they're always late, guys get hurt and even
the wolf throws on Saturdays could twisted an ankle. But
when you were here unfit to play, what are we
gonna assume? We're automatically gonna be going to assume it's Corona?
And then what is that effect? Who else got news
in the Blackhawks goalie Corey Crawford, who was deemed unfit
to play. When I read the headline, I hadn't known
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at that point that that's how they were classifying it.
And I'm like, unfit to play? I mean, I'm being told,
really honest, I thought I was like seeing rehab, like
what's going on with Corey Crawford. I swear to you
it was the first thing I thought, and I was like,
I mean, it's got to be a COVID thing for
them to phrase it like that. But I had to
go in read the article. They're saying, he's not here.
We don't know exactly when when he's ready, he'll be here,
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ready to go. Here's the other goalies. They're gonna try
it for the top spot. I'm like, what's wrong with
Corey Crawford? Is he in rehab? I don't I honestly
didn't know. I don't understand what is so wrong about
saying Mike Blue it's not playing today he has COVID.
Where's the negative thing about here's something we're talking about,
a sexual venereal disease or cancer or something. You have COVID,
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you're gonna be out. I mean, I just don't get
it about why y'all typically in this context, because we
constantly talked about the well being and health of the players.
I guess if this were not, that's why it's weird
pr thing. But why would you want the media Jason
Pierre Paul's blew his handoff, and we had reporters going
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and getting medical records of what exactly happened to his hand,
which I thought was wrong at the time because he
suffered a tragedy. Now COVID could ultimately be a tragedy.
So maybe that's why they're doing it that way. I
just think because they want to call control the PR
game that they don't want to to say, oh, you know,
seventeen players on one team Gott Corolla say hey, they
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don't fit to play. You guess that? And I think
it's silly. I think it's absolutely silly. I think they's
just isn't he got Corona? Is nothing negative about it.
We all know what's going to happen. Who do you
think you're fooling? And I said that you're gonna have
every medium member speculating about what the what it is
that in some ways that's worse. They're just saying, hey,
twisted an ankle, Hey he uh, you know, separated a
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should or whatever it might be, he's got COVID. Okay,
we understand. Next you said, like I just told my
story with Corey Crawford, people that that don't know exactly
how they're phrasing it could assume, especially you had a
history not quick up, but Robert Lending used to be
there and Robert Leonard with the blacks now with the
Vegas Gold Night, but he was at the Black Oaks
and the Islands. He did have a drinking problem at
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one time. And when you hear one fit the plug,
you're going to think drugs, alcohol, stuff like that, and
that's that's worse than the and then go. But I
just it buggles the mind that all these sports leads
are doing this. I think this is one way, by
the way, just to sort of get rid of the media.
I think that's certainly sports love. The fact of the
media won't be in the locker rooms anymore. They will
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be uncovering some of those stories. You know. It's uh,
I guess it's the good in the bad. You get
out the negative that they might uncover, But the sport
doesn't get covered as well as a whole, as far
as the game itself, the good things that happen. But
I think the NFL and all these sports are trying
to control the narrative to some degree. Yeah, I wonder.
And they won't be in the locker room. They're probably
socially distant. You're right, it won't be covered as well
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because there are there are stories that emanate from those
types of locker room conversations. I think these will just
be really structured, perhaps in different rooms, the players up
on some sort of a podium, reporters in another room,
massed up, socially distant. Uh. In any event, Um, that's so.
A One more story related to the COVID stuff is
regarding Mark Andrews, uh, the breakout tight end for the
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Ravens last season. Via the Baltimore Son Jonas Schaefer. Ravens
tight end Mark Andrews said Wednesday he will not opt
out due to his health condition. We've got a big
year coming up, Andrew said during his Zoom appearance in
connection with the Children with Diabetes group. He has type
one diabetes. He is making that uh, making that appearance,
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and why he's talking about not opting out. He wants
to be able to do a lot of things. Just
being able to help this team win is exciting for me.
Andrew's decision underscores the reality that most players will choose
to play even if they have enhanced rispectors. George, you
and I talked about this. I was on with game
Manzy during the week talking about this. Something tells me
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speculative obviously, that the nature of football and the the
call ulture surrounding football thinks that guys are gonna try
to play through this, even as they a lot of guys,
not all a lot of guys, I think, even though
they're expressing rightfully expressing concern Richard Sherman, J. J. Watt,
which we just reviewed, I think that a lot of
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these guys are just gonna play through short shelf life
of a career. And I think they want to get
out there and play when they can, when they're getting paid.
I agree. It's also the athletes mindset play that doesn't
even trained through your entire life play. So yes, I
expect them to vall to play as well. I think, listen,
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if I was a professional athlete, the uh you know,
unlessen dr told me it's this is terrible for the health.
You can't do this. I'm playing now if I had
a family, if I want these guys who are a
newborn baby, and I'm going home after each game, and
I don't think I'm playing, I really that's fair to
my wife. I don't think it's fair to my unborn child.
As if I was playing, I listen, uh in baseball,
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it wasn't honey. I'm gonna stay let's stay way for
three much well, hio, hio, all to help you need.
You are a professional hobit. You can probably afford it,
you know. But I'm gonna stay away for three months
and the life. That's fine, go with make the money.
I'm good with that. But I'm not in dange with
anyone else's health. That's where I'm going with that. I'm
write any dangs of mine, but I'm not gonna danger
anybody else. Yeah, true, Okay, that's it for this segment.
We'll come back. We'll talk about the Tennessee Titans and
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football Full Circle. My man George Kurtzer extension for Derrick
Henry through George four years fifty million dollars twenty five
and a half million dollars. Full guarantee really comes in
these first two years. He's twenty nine at the end
of the deal, so since he was a mid round pick,
there was no fifth year option on the table. He
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was motivated to get this deal because he is a
little bit of an older back for his years in
the league. Right, he came out a little bit older
than some other running backs did. But he gets his
deal here. He didn't break them over the coals, but
he gets a bunch of money guaranteed upfront. Yeah, it's
not Christian McCaffrey's deal. He's the fifth highest paid running
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back due to average annual value. But I actually think
pretty good deal on both sides to me. You know,
it's funny. Now, I'm always for paying the player, right,
I'm always for paying the play. But if I'm a
GM Mike, I'm not doing this. I'm just not doing
it for Derrick Henry. It's not that I don't think
he's great. I think he is. I think he's the
soul of that team. I think he's the one player
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on that team. You might be able he can't get her.
He might be more important than Towne Hill as far
as that's concerned. Wi is unusual for a quarterback. But
the type of running back he is, we really don't
see anymore. Right, He's not trying to go around you,
He's trying to go through you. He gets to do.
I mean, we always say, at least I like to
say that pretty much running back is twenty car crashes
the game. He's worse than that because he's going full speed.
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He like he's trying to run people over. His body
takes a pounding, you know, and that's the kind of pounding.
I don't think he lasts four years. I doubt it.
I would have gone year by year with Derrick Henry
and use them, you know, and I know it sounds terrible,
but that's that's the way the nature of the game here.
I would have used them, given him his three three
fifty touches, four touches, and then probably moved on. You
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drafted running back this year, he to draft another one.
You do it. Your window is probably you know what
the said, couple of years. As far as being competitive,
I don't think they're Suita Bowl contender, not better than
the chief, not better than the Ravens. I'm glad he
got paid. I understand why he took the deal. Get
your money, running back. You're not gonna list forever. But
if I'm a Titans GM, I would not have done this.
So John Robinson does do it. I'll provide a counterpoint
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well since uh, we will debate a little bit here.
So he's the fifth highest paid running back by average
annual value. Obviously McCaffrey's in front of him and Zeke Um.
Missing a couple other names off the top of my head,
but McCaffrey, Zeek paid more than him. Se Quan Uh
probably more than him. I might be missing one more name,
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so you can look it up as I'm talking. So
he's getting the twenty five and a half for the
two years. As you said, there's really no guarantees after that.
They can cut him after two. So you're paying them
to be the fifth best running back now for this year.
By next year, Dalin Cook will have gotten paid. Potentially
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Joe Mixon we'll get paid, and he might be seventh
or eighth. I was paid running back. By next year,
even conceding not of running, not a lot of running
backs get paid. There are potentially going to be two
guys next free agency class, which is loaded that will
get paid and actually push him further down the list.
So by next year, you're paying to be the seventh
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pighest paid running back twelve and a half million dollars.
There is money on the cap. They can move off
of him after the next six to seven hundred touches
over the next two seasons and they'll pay him like that.
After that, then they can cut him. Then they can renegotiate,
extend him a year, bring the average annual salary down
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because look, you're not the same guy anymore, or just
move on from him, frankly, but he won't get be
getting twelve and a half million a year when he's
twenty nine. That's just not going to be the case.
I agree, Like I said, I uh, I'm glad to
get paid. I always have to running back to get pigs.
We know this show flight as sure. He's not going
to have a fifteen year career. That's not what it's
meant to be here. I I understand why the NFL
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p A didn't, but I wish they would have adjusted
something from running backs in the c b A, you know,
to make it more fair. Because right now, man, you
don't want to be a running back. You just don't
want to be a running back coming into the NFL. Yeah,
that's not where the money is. You really need to be,
uh the greatest of the great to truly get paid here.
It's like, you don't want to be a safety on Devin,
you don't want to be a running back on offense,
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Go for a skill position. I thought positional salary caps
or something that have always interested me. I didn't think
they were likely, and they never even really came up
during the entire negotiation. I never I really never heard it,
particularly in terms of quarterback. Just keeping quarterbacks percentage of
salary cap down quarterbacks. I thought could have been something
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to strive for, but I never heard it. And we're
dealing with this next one until So that's the deal
for Derrick Henry. I actually don't think it's that bad
of a deal. I understand people saying I would never
pay a running back that much, but if the money
is there for the next two years, I don't care
that they did it. They paid Tannehill a ton of
money over the next three years. So let's get to
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their odds. George, you have them in front of you.
We're gonna take a look at the Tennessee Titans odds
for this season. All right, to wait with super Bowl
plus three thousand, I think that's at one one sounds
of I don't and I don't think they are I
think they were good. I think they might be the
best overall team as far as they have good special teams.
It's like middle good offense. But I don't think they're
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going to win. It's the middle of the pack. But also,
the odds are skewed in the a f C because
if you're not the Chiefs are the Ravens. Uh, it's
your your odds down the Paths are in there at
seventeen to one um and then it's the Steelers and
Colts at four to one, and the and the Titans
at thirty to one. So really it's about the Chiefs
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in Baltimore upfront. But they beat Baltimore in the playoffs
last year, so obviously it's something to consider as a
long shot. I like how the team is structured. Will
get to that in a minute as we continue to
go through the odds. Okay, so we're not beending on them.
The win was a super Bowl here and I'm thinking
we're going same thing here. We're not gonna go this
direction either to win the a f C plus six hundred.
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The problem is for this, like, yeah, you're you're getting
odds on this at sixteen to one, but when you
were just rather have the Steelers at twelve to one,
better chance there. I'm sure they could win their division.
That's the problem. Well, they're they're not expected to. The
Cults are eleven to one to win the a f
C Championship, and we're going to get to the a
f C South odds right now, Yes, the ANC South odds,
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and this is well plus one st that's plus one
because I can't write no, no, I haven't No, you're right.
The Titans are one sixty five. The Colts are one
thirty five, so they're not favored to win their division.
I think that's about right. I think the Colts listen
if Philip Rivers just doesn't play like you know, Jameis
Winston North, I think they are Colts are the better team.
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I don't want to say by far, but I think
they one of the better teams in the league. I
think the stacked them almost all over the place. But
it comes down to Philip Rivers and all those Pixie
through lest you doesn't have anything left. Uh So, yeah,
the Titan's got some issues there. Plus you know the
fact that the Patriots now signed Cam Newton. That throws
them into this wild card mix two, which I I
don't think they were going to be a wild card team,
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you know, two weeks ago. Now they get Cam Newton.
If he's healthy there, well, they can we win with
division now as well. I still have Buffalo women that division.
If things work out at quarterback for this Dealers and
the Patriots, there are lots of being taken away. That's
the fair I'm saying. Those are highly competitive wild Card
division winning teams. You took in New England, Buffalo, Baltimore, Pittsburgh.
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You want to throw Cleveland and there that's five. You're
throwing Indianapolis Tennessee at seven cases eight and I think
the charges you look at that schedule, I like what
the charge could possibly do it in the first half
of the season. I'll give them nine. So let's we
two teams left without a chair when the music stops.
You know, I do expect the charges to be one
of them is I think Herbert plays too much. But
it means one of these other teams that we like,
maybe Cleveland, you know, tough division with Pittsburgh and Bolltimore
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in there. But I can see it thing Tennessee too,
if they slip up a little bit of tenn Hill
is not that guy, you know, so, and they can't
wait with division with the Colts. Are that team? You know,
there's gonna be There's gonna be one good team I
think in the AFC that doesn't get in. So we'll
take a look. Let's take a look at their schedule,
and we'll determine whether or not the wind total makes sense.
What's the win toll eight and a half eight a half,
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so eight minus one thirty the over. So people betting
market likes them to go over. And here's here's how
they get started. They are at Denver the late game,
Monday night, September fourteen. Obviously, folks, we have to go
with the assumption when we're doing this that the season
is gonna start on time and they're gonna play sixteen games.
So let's utilize that. If you think that we're not,
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we're not. We're just doing this because it's the only
way to reasonably try to handicap something like this or
give you our thoughts on the value brutal. Okay, we'll
see at Denver, Jacksonville, at Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Houston. Those
are all home games. So for their first six before
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the bye week are home games up Jacksonville and Houston.
But I mean the jackson balls, and that's a w there.
That Denver game, it's at Denver Mile High Monday night,
you know, the first game of the season. That's no
easy game there. And then I don't care if it's
at home. Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Houston, Houston, the division game. I mean,
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that's not fun. And then Jaxon is a lot. They
won the division four freaking times in the last five years.
I'd get that. Everybody doesn't like Bill O'Brien, but they
have Deshaun Watson and they're good. But I'm gonna be
good this year actually, But they're not terrible. They stink
in the playoffs, They're not terrible. But then I don't
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think they're the same team. But the thing is, I
don't know they're They're gonna give teams fits in that division.
They can beat Tennessee, they can beat Indianapolis. I don't
think they're gonna be above you know, five a woman
in the division, but they can cause some headaches there.
I just think us and I get worried about the
Starker Tennessee. Yeah, if tann Hill is not up to
par here, I mean, I said, I just keep looking
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at that Minnesota good defense, Pittsburgh very good defense, Buffalo
very good defense used as a good defense as well.
Things get really I mean that things go wrong for
them and they end up being two and four. You know,
it's give me a real rough. They better take advantage
of the easier start of the second half after the
bye week. I like the fact that they have Pittsburgh
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and Buffalo are home games because they can they'll take
one of those. Are there any Is there any advantage
having a home game this year now? Not as big
as one. We don't know how any people. I don't know.
I have no idea about Tennessee and how many fans
they're going to have in the stands, you know, as
the advantage, it won't be as good. And I think
Buffalo and Pitts are both better teams. I'm supposed to
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be in Tennessee in August and it's looking less likely
by the day, so uh, all right, So the bye
week we got it. Weeks they come out of the
bye week at Cincinnati, Chicago, they got the Colts at
and this is tough, Indianapolis at Baltimore, Indianapolis and the
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indian the Indie game, though the first one is that
is the home game is a Thursday. That helps um
then Cleveland, then at Jacksonville, Detroit, at green Bay, at Houston.
They got a bunch of swing teams on here on
this schedule, which it makes it a little bit more difficult.
But honestly, I'm leaning towards the over, but I don't
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like it enough to bet it right now, if for
no other reason that I like the Titans every year
for the last four years and they can't get going.
It's two different coaching staffs now they can't seem to
get going. They made the playoffs last year and they
get the two wins, and nobody can take that away.
But if you look closely at him, you remember, and
you and I talked about this all the time. They
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should not have made the playoffs except for the fact
that the Stealers were abysmo and scored ten points in
each of their last three games, losing all of them. Um,
it was a nightmare for the stealers and it allowed
the Titans to get in so it was indicative of
them not really taking care of business early in the season.
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This smells throughout an eighteen. He posted the schedule, but
it smells to be like eight and eight. Uh as
I think a part of my I guess make it
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Football Fulls Circle and George talking about my team, my
latest fantasy team. George And for those that don't know,
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George and I came up in this industry as fantasy
football and baseball analysts. We've been with sports but a
long time, so we talked about all sports from time
to time. This show has got us in the groove
of talking football and we like to mix it up
every once in a while and talk a little bit
of fantasy because we have a lot of experience in
that regard, and many of you out there that are
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watching a sports wagering channel are obviously dabbling in fantasy
as well. And there's a high profile league that George
and I have played in in years past. I'm in
it this year. Uh. George's my consol Yerry for this season,
and we're going with Scott fish Ball. This is the
tenth edition. It's a great league for those that don't know. Uh.
A lot of money donated to charity on behalf of
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Fantasy Cares dot net, which ultimately results in a sort
of toys for tots uh uh windfall for many kids.
Right around Chris must time at the end of the
football regular season. So I got through my draft, finished
it earlier this week. Twenty two rounds, so you have
a twenty two man roster. It's twelve team divisions. There
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are over fourteen hundred teams in the entirety of the league,
so it's highly competitive. You really need a thread the
needle in order to have a good team, George, and
even when you're having good runs, you can fall apart.
There was a time a couple of years ago I
was in first place in the whole darn thing, and
it fell apart. It just it fell apart. At the
end of the year. You really need to keep putting
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up big numbers in order to stay on top of
that league. And we'll see if I can do it.
My screen, my team is displayed on the screen right
now for you. Um you get a bump for it's
a half point PPR half point first down league, and
you get a bump for tight ends. They're going to
get a full point PPR and a full full point
for first downs. Additionally, it is a super flex league,
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so you can play up to two quarterbacks, and the
order back bonuses are different this year. George, You're getting
half a point through completion, minus one for an incompletion.
Uh six point touchdowns, but if you throw a pick,
it's minus four and if you throw a pick, six
touchdown is taken away. So there are significant penalties there. Uh.
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I decided that quarterback was going to be a premium
for me this year. I don't always consider that in
every super flex league. But you have to read the
room as well, and this is what I did. You
and I went over a little bit last week. The
top of my draft, which was Kelsey, Kyler Murray, DeAndre Hopkins,
Aaron Rodgers. So I stacked Kyler, Murray and DeAndre Hopkins,
hoping for a big connection in Cliff Kingsbury's offense. I
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rounded out with Aaron Rodgers and David Johnson. That's my
top five. What do you think? I think you did
very well here. I keep looking at you play. It's
it's very similar to a drift that I would have
because I look at the second half. First they half,
very few people are screwed up, but a second of
you a lot of good, good depth, good reserve place
that I would grab veterans that are still out there.
You didn't take a lot of chances. You can go
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for the home run play. You know you got Mohammed
Snow in round Dolan. Round twenty two was a nice
grap here once again, good depth to help on boys,
could help with injuries here. You know what bugs me
about that? In round twenty two, I was lining up
Marquez Valdes scandling with Aaron Rodgers because I already had Lazard.
I was like, let me just get the other guy.
In case it's not Lazard, I'll get Marquess Valdest Candling.
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There was no indication that anybody was going to take him,
and I the way I set up my auto draft,
I picked the new first instead of him. Somebody took
him on the turn, so I ended up with Amondola.
It's not terrible, Dany Amndola could have seventy five catches
this year and he's the last pick in the twenty
two round draft. For me, he's a very safe play.
This is a PPR the you getta get points for that,
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so I like this. I also like the fact that, man,
you have to have one of the better quarterback combinations here.
I mean you got Kyler Murray. Aren't Rodgers Baker Mayfield.
I mean you're covered with an injury, You're okay when
a guy goes down. Oh, and I took Jordan's Love
late to in case Aaron Rodgers gets hurt and Love
becomes some super rookie. Um. I took him in the
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twentieth round. The Baker thing was not a plan at all.
It was just the tenth round. I was like, are
you kidding me? And I'm not gonna start drafting my
fifth running back here that Baker Mayfield is on the board.
Aaron Rodgers has gotten hurt in the past. He's thirty six,
thirty seven years old, Like I got a younger guy,
and if what if the Browns offense explodes? Like what
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if the Browns in this league? You need a third quarterback? Yeah,
you know it's it's burned me a time with two
white and have that guy last year? You we are
we are absolutely products of our experiences. And last year
I screwed myself by cutting Ryan Tannehill too soon, uh
to back up Mariota. And then I had another QB
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get hurt, and I had weeks or by weeks and
everything else. I had weeks where I was playing one
quarterback in it. It lost me games and I was
out of the playoffs. And this is why we always
tell you know you league rules. I did quarterback in
this league? Is he minsally important this year? Are you?
You're not gonna win one quarterback. If you only drive
the two quarterbacks and one goes down, you can't get
the bag because you were outbid or you didn't have
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he wasn't handcuffed. You're dead. You're just dead. In this league.
There's too many points going to a quarterback. It's probably
the only thing I don't like about the scott Fish
bowlers uh this year is the half point for the
completion two. That's probably too much. It's already six points
for a touchdown pass. You know, the quarterback is always
get the most points. Anyway, now you've added to it.
This is why in some leagues, uh, some scott Fish
Bowl leagues, you saw quarterbacks going crazy. I know Matthew
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Berry of ESPN was complaining and he in his league.
I think he didn't drip a collect to round three
and he's dead because he's he likes his team, but
his quarterbacks are not very good because they went quarterback
crazy in his league. And you said, you got to
you gotta read the room. You gotta read your league, man,
because I've been in so many scott Fish Bowls where
last year I got Pat Mahomes fourth pick, second round. No,
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we took Quarteback A shocked even I did the first round.
As I read it, I'm like, okay, quarterbacks are falling here.
But I've also been in leagues where eight go in
the first round. I just never really know. Yeah, so
you know where I was. I thought I really wanted Kyler.
I had a choice between Kyler and Russell Wilson. I
went to Kyler route. I think there's a scoch more
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upside even though Safer, I'm going like big upside here,
which is kind of where you have to hit home
runs in this league. Deshaun Watson had gone off the board,
that would have been a consideration as well. The fact
that I got Aaron Rodgers in the fourth round. Find
maybe I could have waited, maybe I could have gotten
a better high end running back, but in this league,
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I just decided to wait. I still have seven running
backs that matter. David Johnson, look here here are my
big questions that I have for my league. And I
said it in a tweet earlier this week. Um, there's
a couple of things I'll be thinking about in this draft.
I mentioned the Marquets Baltist Gantling thing, which was late.
He was somebody that I wanted a little bit later.
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But can David Johnson be better than I and many
expect George? You actually like him a little bit more
than I do. And my other major question is taking
a j Brown over Odell Beckham. So I had no
idea I was ever going to get Baker Mayfield. I
wish now that I had Beckham instead of A J. Brown,
because I have Baker and I can team those guys
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up potentially, But um, you know, O'Dell gets hurt. I
get that the Titans don't throw a lot. But A J.
Brown established himself as a rookie, as a real as
a force to be reckoned with. I think he's going
to be a really good player. Do I think he's
an elite number one A one talent like Beckham has been.
Probably not, but there's very few of those guys, and um,
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that was a choice. I decided to go with A J. Brown.
I might regret it a little bit, but it is
what it is. I in the moment, I just had
concerns about Beckham and the fact that there still our
question marks surrounding the Browns. I would have gone with Beckham,
by the way. I just thought I'm gonna go with
a better player here that once see. I had my
doubts about tan Hill, so that would have been my
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choice there. I said, you know, I'm I'm higher than
most on David Johnson. Not that I expect him to
be a great running back. I just think there's roof
him to do damage in Houston. I think Pprley's gonna
scores some points, and I keep going back. I had
David Johnson on a couple of teams last year. He
was doing well until the injury, you know, and listen,
I understand the most important ability is availability, but he
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also got while he pipped, you know, and I don't
think it's gonna happen in Houston. So I kind of
like what David Johnson can do for you here, and
you did that once again. It's a very simpl floss
that I would do if if I don't get a
top running back, I'll take you a lot of running backs,
you know. If that's the muddy against the wall theory,
and I'm gonna hope something sticks. You got your call,
when you got your Lindsay, You've got your white, you
got safe place. You guys are not gonna rack up
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points for you, but hey, you know, they'll get you
something each and every week. And you don't have to
rely on your other position just to win here. Kelsey's
gonna have to come through you. Your quarterback is gonna
have to come through for you. That's where your strength is.
And it's Scott fish Bowl. We're all gonna have question marks. Sure, sure,
I mean and the two things I'm really banking on
and other you know, there's there's a lot of things
you need to happen in order to be really good
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in this league. But I'm banking on Cliff Kingsbury, obviously,
Kyler and DeAndre Hopkins. I got Larry Fitzgerald in the
fifteenth round. That's another guy who could have eighty catches.
Like his numbers weren't bad last year. They weren't, so
he's not putting up fifteen hundred yard seasons anymore. He's
a slot possession receiver in a league that's which rewards
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first downs. Um So, I think if this Cardinals offense
exploded and I had the two two of the top receivers,
that's interesting. I also had Kirk targeted that didn't work out,
a couple of guys I wanted. And the other thing
I'll be banking on is Tevin Coleman, Ah, Philip Lindsay
and potentially Tony Pollard being bigger parts of their offense
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than some people anticipate. I think I had one of
the earliest draft picks in the whole league of Tevin
Coleman was around the time the Raheem Moster news came out.
Why I don't think he'll be traded. I think is
absolutely a possibility where Tevin Coleman is as valuable as
Raheem Mostard, as good as most it was down the stretch.
I think it's a possibility that Coleman will get plenty
of valuable touches and first downs and touchdowns. Right, he
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had some explosive games last year. If he's healthy longer,
maybe we see a little bit more um Tony Pollard.
Obviously that would necessitate some sort of an injury for Zeke,
But what of Zeke is out with COVID for three
weeks or whatever it is, then Tony Pollard gets me
some points there as a number one running back and Pollard,
which it's been pretty good in spots. George, the Cowboys
(50:34):
fan and analysts would know Pollard is a good back. Yeah,
so Pollard. Next thing, I think of Madison in Minnesota,
same thing. They're the reason why you don't pay the
top running back because you find other guys you didn't
even know about. Then at the turning on being pretty
good backs plot, He's not a Zekel, Ellie's not Barkley,
but he's a good solid back here that can help
a team as like I'm a Cowboy fan. If Elliott
(50:56):
goes down, I'll be honestly, I'm not all that worried
about the office. I think they'd be just fine with followed. Yeah, yeah,
my other tight ends. I drafted Kelsey early and then
waited a long time, and the up with Jack Doyle
and O J. Howard. Um, you know, I'm always gonna
have a little bit of faith in Jack Doyle. I
I didn't never know what it's gonna look like. But
Ebron is not there anymore. And O J. Howard, who knows,
(51:18):
Maybe maybe he listens to Gronk and and he and
Brady get on the same page. And O J. Howard
as a decent season. But I'm not going to cry
about my sixteenth round uh depth chart tight end picks.
I think I did okay here, James White, Jeff, you know,
I'm in obviously on the San Francisco running game. If
raheem Moster goes down, I don't expect McKinnon to be
(51:39):
anything this year. I got Coleman and Jeff Wilson there,
so Emmanuel Sanders is my third white out. Kind of interesting.
I don't know what that's gonna look like. He's coming
off of injuries and everything else. But he was a
factor at the end of the year last year with
the Niners. I'm surprised he left her that long. What
we say a round a levin what's gonna is this
(52:00):
a super flex lay with the weird rules, So it's
probably more the equivalent of round nine. Yeah, you know
most leagues. I would say, even that's still a little
deeper than I would I think he'd be available on
a lot of leagues. There. I staid, you're you've got
the TV here where you'll compete. You didn't screw a
draft up, you'll compete. Now. It'll come That's what myself
tells so many people who ask me. It'll come down
(52:21):
down to staying healthy, which you can't control, and making
the right moves during the season, which you can't control. Yeah,
I'm good. Death puts helps in the league like this.
So appreciate everybody listening to me babble on about my team.
Here for you to hit us out on questions on
your fantasy team at George Kurtz at Mike Blewett, certainly
at Sports Gridge on Twitter at sports Grid TV on
Instagram on behalf of George Kurtz, Mike Compadre and producer
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