February 21, 2020 • 38 mins
Doc talks abut a slow fantasy baseball draft finished over a week. People like ti but then complain it takes too long. Doc talks about how he looks to draft in the first five rounds. He needs to be careful not to take too many risk players. Doc does not like to take a catcher early but between 9-12 rounds. Doc talks about the CBA the Owners approved and how the players are getting screwed in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
All right, it's dr Roto and get out the insurance cards,
get out the co pay. The office is open, my friends.
Sorry about the delay, but we're back now. It's a Friday.
Things happened on Friday's, you know, and so so we
excuse that. We don't if it was Monday, that'd be different.
But Friday, we can let it go. Right. Speaking of
letting it go, I'm in the slow draft here and
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for tout Wars, and people are starting to get a
little chippy. I don't know if you guys are done
a draft, Champions League before or these slow drafts. And
what happens is normally there's like an eight hour clock.
Some leagues have four hour clocks. Some leagues even have
two hour clocks. Well, this league has no clock. This
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is just you know, get it done. So we started
this draft on Monday and now it's Friday, and people
were liking around twelve, and people are getting chippy. They're like,
we only made a few picks to today. I only
made one pick yesterday. And somebody's like, I don't want
to be that guy, but can we hired this up.
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It's a slow draft. It's a slow draft. They're imperfect
so and this is this is a true story. We're
gonna tell you. So last night it was eleven o'clock
and there was one guy and then me. So I'm
thinking I'm gonna make a pick last night, right, I'm
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up late. Well, the guy in front of me didn't
make a pick until seven or four am. Sorry, dude,
about one am. I'm going to bed. I'd stayed up
to about one try to make a pick. So when
I woke up this morning at things to do, Sorry
about that. So I made my pick at ten. What
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am I gonna tell you? I was up until one
thirty in the morning. I didn't tell this guy to
go to bed at eleven o'clock and make his pick
at seven am. That's how it works. We lose we
we we lose time. Right there. You go shut off
the clock at night. You play in these leagues. Shut
off the clock at night. That's what it's supposed to be.
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The clock should go off between midnight and eight am.
Right then am you turn the clock back on, and
let's give everybody two hours to pick. Right now, Look,
I got a radio show. I'm talking to you, but
I can still pick. We have commercial breaks and stuff.
We have cues, right, But when you're in a slow draft,
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it's exactly what that is. It's a slow draft. And
I've had this debate with people over many, many times,
seriously many times. If you have six hours to pick
on the clock, should you pick in an hour? No?
Should you take five hours and fifty eight minutes. That's
you're right, that's you're right. You have six hours on
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the clock. You want to take one hour, you want
to take five hours and fifty nine minutes, that's on you.
It is my choice whether to join that league or not.
Now we could say, hey, guys, let's pick up the pace.
Or once you do that once or twice, it's frustrating.
It's frustrating. What am I gonna do. Matt Modicke is
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on the clock. Maybe he didn't make a pick. I
don't know what he's doing. Maybe he's busy. Who knows
what's going on in his life? Should happened, you know,
beyond all the time. If you're gonna be on all
the time, then we should have just done a draft
in one night. It's a slow draft. I'm hoping to
be done in three weeks. To be quite honest with you,
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If I'm done in three weeks, it's good. It's fifty rounds.
How many? If I get through two rounds a day two,
that's pretty good. Right, there's fifteen teams in the league.
I gotta get fifteen guys away from their lives, wives, kids, jobs, dogs,
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whatever else it is, right, I gotta get that. I
gotta get fifteen guys at different times over a course
of a twenty four hour day. If I can get
through two picks, I'm ecstatic. Two picks, fight about fifty
Not good at math when I'm good at that kind
of math. Twenty five days, boom, three weeks. That's how
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long it takes. If you could do it any faster
than that, you got a fast draft, or put on
a two or four or three or five hour o'clock
and there you go. But you gotta do something overnight.
Eight hours passed last night. We could have drafted the
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night before. Are we actually drafted five times in one am.
That's what happens in these leagues. So I tell you this,
if you are in a slow draft league, there's really
really nothing you can do to complains. Nothing you can do,
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being quite honest with you, and I'd be the first
one to complain. Let me tell you, I'll be all
over that. It's just slow. It's just slow because I'm
usually ready to go. I'm usually ready to go. I
kind of know what I want to do all the
way I'm in. But you know what, it doesn't always
work that way. It doesn't always work that way. Life happens,
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things get in the way. If I'm in a regular
draft at eight o'clock at night, I expected to go.
Now here's another thing. If you're in a regular draft, right,
and there's ninety seconds between picks, should I expect a guy?
Should I expect to pick before nine seconds? No? And
there are always people always, and trust me, you know
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how many football drafts I do a year. Tons, there's
always be somebody who takes the full ninety seconds. Every
single time. There's always somebody. I'm never that guy. Usually
I have like tooth people, maybe three. When it comes
to me, there's one or two left. I know who
I'm taking. Boom. I'm usually making my pick within thirty seconds.
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I would kill, kill, kill kill to being a league
that is like sixty seconds. It's like speed chess, go
go go, go, go, go go go. How cool would
that be? I'd love that sixty seconds or less get
it done. You know what you wanted? You don't, that
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would be great, but ninety seconds it feels law. Telling
you that for football feels very feels like an eternity.
And it's especially when somebody's got like the picks on
the wheel on one or or twelve. You're like, seriously, dude,
do you need three minutes? It almost feels unfair. It
almost feels that the timing is unfair. But those are
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the rules. There's nothing I can really do. I can't
argue it, can't fight it. It is what it is.
So you've got to just adapt. You adapt to the rules.
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And if you don't like it, and what I do
like about the NFBC, to be quite honest with you,
they've changed. Instead of eight hours, you can be in
leagues that are four hours, leagues that are two hours.
I love that. You want to be in a fast draft.
Do a two hour league. You'll be done those fifty rounds,
you'll be done in a week. Boom ba boo boom.
That's good stuff. But you've got to be tied to
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your computer, right and then there's always somebody who's chiming in.
I alway should be done by the all star barring
You're so funny. I love message boards. Most people are
not nearly as funny as they think they are. That's
what I've learned in life. Talking about this with my
kids the other day. Most people think they're funny. They're
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not funny. I hate to break it to you. This
has given the New Meetings to the term slow draft.
You're hysterical. Oh my god, seriously, dude, can we come
up with something funnier? You're not funny, not clever? Right,
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people are funny. Those don't have to try. Right, the
people are funny, and those are like did he just
say that it was pretty funny? You know, like whey,
where did that come from? I like that kind of humor,
not not. I don't know. I don't even want to
go there. But my point being this, you know the
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rules of your draft before you get into your draft.
Whatever that draft is nine seconds, two minutes, two hours.
People have the right to take as much of that
clock as they want. Can it be frustrating? Yes? Do
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I empathize with you? Absolutely? Is there anything I can
do about it? No? What do you want to do
about it? Don't be in that league. Quit that league,
so many leagues at quick because I'm annoyed because I
don't like something about that that's in the league. Whether
it's a trading thing or something. Don't do it. But
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you gotta you gotta go with the whatever the league is,
all right. So it's a slow draft. Just understand that.
I think some people prefer slow draft. I like to
watch the draft unfold. I want to think about my pick.
I want to take an hour. I think sometimes one
of the things the biggest mistakes people can do in
these slow drafts is pick right away. Well, there's always
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new information coming on. So let me ask you this.
You Seal Puig, is he signing with anybody yet? I
don't know they're talking about it. They're talking about him
signing with the Colorado Rockies. Well on the White Sox.
That's big news. So I might wait a little bit
to see if he signs. If he does, maybe I
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take him. That's news. That's an advantage, right, You can
use that extra time to your advantage. That's why you know,
if guys get injured Luis Savarino forearm tightness, Jordan Montgomery,
let me pick him boom right. Use that to your advantage.
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That's what people do, right, That is what people do.
That's how you win leagues by out maneuver, bring your
opponents right by being more clever than your opponent. Use
the rules to your advantage. All right, gonna take a
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little break. When we come back, I'm gonna talk to
you about something that is I would I would call
this pretty darn frustrating. Do you take a player based
on need or you take a player based on value?
What to do with that? This is very frustrating. And
when you're in a fantasy baseball draft, I will give
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you the position that I'm in now, and we will
discuss what the right thing to do is we'll do
when we return right after this. All right, we're back, alright,
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more stuff from the message boards. A J. Henchill be
back in Major League Baseball by the time this draft
is over. Oh my god, it's not funny. You're not funny.
H you're not funny. All right. I'm dr Roto with
full time Fantasy. Check me out a full time Fantasy
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two months and you can take advantage of the team
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starting to do my baseball podcast previews in ten minutes
or less. I had to do the Orioles podcast today. Honestly,
it could have been about a two minute podcast. I
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lengthened that it's about seven minutes, but it really could
have been two minutes. Avoid all Orioles, be well, take
care of my friends. There you go, Oh you want
to draft John means okay with that, and be well,
take care. But I didn't do that, all right, So
I want to get to something that's been happening recently
in my draft. Do you ever get to a point
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in in a draft at whether it's football or baseball,
where you look at all the players and you're like,
I don't like anybody, right, Like I don't like any
of these guys, and then you don't know what to do.
So I'm looking at all the pictures out there and
there's not one of them, not one that shouts out
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at me, dr roto draft me. Please, not one. So
what do you do? Do you a draft one of
these guys, B pick more offense or see cry yourself
to sleep well. See is also a good choice, but
I will say I think choosing between A and B
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is a tough one. Part of me has said on
this show before. Never settle. I never want to settle
for a guy that I don't like. So if I
don't really like Luke Weaver, I don't like Massahiro Tanaka,
I don't like these guys, don't take them. But the
problem is, at some point, if I keep saying that,
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then I'm gonna be left with guys way worse than that.
I'm gonna be looking at like I don't know Kyle
Gibson and Nathan Huvaldi and I'll be wishing from Massahiro Tanaka.
Or do I just keep on adding offense and offense
and offense because those are the players I like. I
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think there's a balance somewhere in between. I think that
I've got to find And I recommend that you find
a picture you can live with while still drafting the
offensive guys you like. So you know, I'm I'm drafting ten.
So on one pick, I will try to take a picture,
and in one pick I'll try to take a hitter.
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I won't take two pictures. I won't ever do that
to myself because I really don't like a guy. I
don't want to take two of things I don't want.
It's bad enough for me to have one of something
I don't want, let alone two. I'm not gonna take
Tanaka and Luke Weaver and feel good about it. I'm
not gonna do it. But I might take Tanaka and
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a hitter, and then I could feel a little bit
better because I don't want rip or Cella. I don't
want John Lester, I don't want Julio Tehran. And then
all of a sudden, I'm gonna be taking a lot
of reaches later on in the draft, and I can't
do that because I can't win. So earlier today I
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had to take Joe must Grove. I don't really like
Joe must Grove, but he was what we'll call the
best of the worst. Right, So I have Walker Bueller,
who I love. I have Lucas Giulito, who I love.
I have Ken Giles, who I love, And now I
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gotta start adding picture to who I may not like
as much. But what's my point if but what's my choice?
If I don't take Joe Musgrove, I'm gonna get Tanner
row Arc and that's gonna be even worse. Seriously, So
you got to bite the bullet, and sometimes I can't
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always go with value. I have to go with a
position because if I don't go with the position, if
I keep on waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting
and waiting, I'm gonna end up with a train wreck.
And I can't have a train wreck. Now, when it
comes to catchers, I think that it's something that a
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lot of people have different ways of dealing with catchers.
There are some people who swear by the too catcher
at the end theory, and I'm cool with that. That
theory makes sense to me. But I tend to like
the theory of I don't want to take my catcher early.
That's not gonna be me. But if I could get
one catcher in like rounds nine through twelve, one one guy,
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I can then get my second guy probably in rounds
like fourteen through seventeen, and then I'm better off. It's
almost like taking this tight end in football. I don't
need Travis Kelsey, but I don't want to Eric Ebrons right,
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Kelsey is gonna cost me a second round pick. I
don't want to do that, So I want to take
maybe a seventh round tight end. Well, Darren Waller and
then come back with the eleventh round tight end Austin Hooper,
and now I'm better off. Right, that's how you can
win a fantasy baseball league or fantasy football league. I
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think that makes some sense there, right, So with catchers,
try to get one guy in the first first, eleven
to twelve rounds, then take your next guy before round.
Most people won't do that. Most people will wait and
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wait and wait and wait, and then you know what
you could have. You can have a couple of holes
in your lineup and want holes in my lineup, right,
I don't I don't want that at all. Okay, I
don't want zeros. Zeros I can't win. Okay. So let
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me also bring out something that Papa Roto once said
to me. I think it was before I went to college,
and he gave me words of advice. Besides stay away
from grain alcohol, maybe his other thing he said was
all women have idiosyncrasies. It's a question of what you
can live with. It's probably true, very very salient point. Right.
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Everybody's a little crazy, so it's a question of can
they're crazies match up with your crazies. I used this
philosophy also when it comes to drafting, I do. Every
player at a certain point has an imperfection, and it
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usually begins somewhere in Round five, could even be round four.
It really could even be round four. Very few imperfections
in round one, right, Round two, pretty pretty pretty good,
pretty good. Round three, Depending on where you're drafting, you
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feel pretty good about that guy. That player is pretty solid.
But now by round four gets a little dicey, and
then by round five you're like, well, I like this guy,
but right I like her, but I don't know. I
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just got one eyebrow that's a a little funky. You know,
I like her, but maybe she does have one nostril
a little bigger than the other one. You know what
I'm saying, Well, imperfection. Now everybody's perfect except you look
in the mirror. You're you're perfect, So you know what
I'm saying. They're like you start looking at players later
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on and you realize that there are imperfections. The question
is which imperfections can you deal with? Well, as the
draft goes on, we figure that out. Maybe in round five,
a guy's batting average could be a little imperfect. Maybe
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in round six, the fact that he doesn't have that
many stolen bases, that's okay. Maybe in round nine. The
fact that he's a little light on power, I think
I could deal with that. The imperfections change as your
draft unfolds. But nobody is perfect outside your first couple
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of players, right, and then it's about making sure that
you're in perfections line up? Can I create a perfectly
imperfect team? Right? Can I cobble together a hundred stolen basis?
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Can I cobble together three and fifty home runs? Can
I get a batting average of to sixty or two seventy,
which will probably help when your league this year? Right?
Everybody has their flaws. Everybody has their flaws. It's a
question of what you can live with and when with pictures.
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Maybe a guy doesn't win many games like Joe must grow.
Maybe a guy doesn't get that many strikeouts. Maybe a
guy you know walks too many batters. Everybody's imperfect. At
some point in the draft, there's no more perfection, right,
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there's no more perfection you're looking at You're like, oh,
I don't like anybody here. Well, that's what happens. Sometimes
there's it's very hard to like people, but you have
to figure it out. You've got to maneuver and figure
out which imperfections you can live with. Papa Rodo is right.
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He was right, or she wasn't talking about fantasy at
the time. He's talking about the rest of my life.
But he was right in terms of fantasy, and he
didn't even know it. Right. When you're putting your team together,
who's got speed, who does padding average? Who has power?
That's why we like guys who have a little bit
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of both runs and ten stolen basis, I can find
some love for you. You can at home runs and
twenty stolen basis, I can often have some love for you.
That's how it works. Okay, all right, we're gonna take
a little time out. When we come back, Fantasy football
and Fantasy Baseball news and notes the things you need
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to know before you head out for the weekend. I'm
Dr Rodo. I'm with full time Fantasy, and I'll be
back with you right after this. M all right, we
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are back Dr roto with you here. Some some news
in the NFL. The NFL Players Association Executive Committee recommended
to decline the proposed collective bargaining Agreement to the thirty
two man NFL player representative Board of Representatives. They said,
the committee does not have final to say, but it's
notable that the vote went six to five in favor
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of declining the proposed offer. Now the Board of Representatives
will discuss and vote on the proposal. The NFL Players
Association constitution outlines at the paying members of the union,
not the Board of Representatives, will have the final say
in the proposal. The players just need a majority vote
to agree to the owner's current proposal. So here's what
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they're gonna sort out. The revenue split, which is poor,
the seventeen game schedule, roster sizes has come up, player
punishment has come up. Also, the whole thing about activating
a third player off injured reserve during season. Other edity
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tales include increased rosters right going from fifty three to
fifty five, and increase in practice squad sizes. UM. I
don't know, but of course here's that. There are a
number of positive takeaways in the proposal, but the greater
war still feels one side of the favor of the
owners yet thank J. J. Watton Richard Sherman expressed their disagreement. Well,
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let's see, Jay, Jay, what think what J J? Watt
is said, please hold thank you hard knowing that proposed
c b A. Here you go, hard, No, let's see why.
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Uh yeah, the NFL billionaires negotiated among themselves and made
an offer. From my understanding, this is from John Love,
the Gridiron scholar, never spoke with the NFL players association,
and then I love, I love the response from fans.
Stick to football, buddy. You guys are really spoiled. If
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you would live one month of real life with real problems,
it would be a hard Yes. Yeah, millionaires complaining about
not getting paid up by the billionaires, so sad? What
are the people thinking? People just blow my mind sometimes.
So that is that's like one of the worst reactions.
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Oh so, here's this guy, some guy named Adam reading
the comments and the random Joe schmo is siding with
the owners is one of the most ridiculous things ever.
I'll never understand it. Agreed, agreed. So you want j J.
Watt and the players to make a bad deal just
because you have worse problems in life? What what does
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that say about you? I'm sorry that you have problems.
That doesn't mean j J watchoul sign a bad deal.
People are crazy. Players can get whatever they want if
you're willing to lock out. No one wanted to watch
replacement refs. They want to watch playment playment. Yeah, that
doesn't really work out too well. Wow. And then this
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guy goes, can you play a full sixteen again? Before complaining? Seriously,
you're gonna bust on J. J. Watt because he's injured.
You think J J. Watt wants to be injured? Oh
my god, Oh here we go. Mike JS goes, fine,
then lock out. You have the right to sit out
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and not play. Are there for more money or for
your health? But remember I others can take our hard earned,
low income money to other entertainment. Have you seen movies lately? Seriously,
Mike JS. Have you seen movies lately? Mike J s
Most of them stink. I take a bad NFL game
over a bad movie any day. You to a movie theater,
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By the way, tell me if it's this sounds right.
You go to a movie theater, there's like movie which
is like Maria Manudos, which is about ten minutes or
twenty minutes of that. Then you gotta watch some like
pick from some couple of kids that from some film class.
And then there's literally two minutes of previews. We haven't
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even seen the movie yet. I gotta pay. That's how
old I'm getting. Right. Then the movie comes and it's
like four hours later. What the heck? Well, in the
old days, you threw up two previews, show me the movie, boom,
put my I'm out of there. I guess Mike j
s would much prefer that than a football game. So,
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m hmm, Well, this guy says something interesting. Joe Jenkin
says something as paying season ticket holder paying full price
for two garbage time preseason games as a joke. I
agree with that, Joe. I agree with that. Mm hmm.
Just trying to go through here, Yeah, why m hmm,
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just going through and people lockout. You can't lock out?
Oh yeah, this one. You'll be hurt by week four? Anyway? Overrated? Great?
Why would you devalue the best regular season sports and
dilute the value of playoff competition? Makes no sense that
the only answer is money. It's acreed by privilege, is it.
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I don't think that they're just I don't think they're
doing that for more money. I think the biggest prices.
The problem is this, Here's why you guys are missing, right, Firstly,
the players are getting a bad deal by the owners.
They're not getting a great revenue split. The NBA players
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get way more money than the NFL players. Now, the
the NBA has realized something that the NFL, for some
reason hasn't. The NBA owners know that their product is
their player, right. They know that their product is the player,
whereas in football they believe the product is the team.
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The Panthers the Chiefs. If Pat Mahomes wasn't the chief
you wouldn't be that interested in the Chiefs. Tell me
I'm wrong. When Matt Morrow is the quarterback, would you
be wanting to watch the Chiefs play? I don't think so.
The players are integral to this process. I don't know
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why people don't understand that. And I haven't figured out
why the NFL Players Association has let themselves get such
a bad deal by the owners. Bad the players make
the league. Fact I get. If I'm the players, I'd
want five let the owners get That's where I start.
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You don't like it, I'm not playing, then there won't
be football, right. I think they're trying to get up
to forty eight and a half percent. They're not even
at They're not even full partners. At least if you
said to me revenue split, I can get behind that.
That's one, right, that's one. Secondly, what are people also
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complaining about the seventeen game schedule? Well, Roger Goodell wants
that extra game. What do the players get? Roger Goodell
wants that extra week desperately more money. More money is
good for everybody, right, does it dilute the game? I
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don't know the answer to that. Could guys get hurt? Maybe? So?
So if you in one more game? I want better
health care. I want the Primo package. Somebody get me
blue Cross, blue Shield. I want the Platinum package. No
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more bronze package for the NFL guys, give me the
Primo med That's what I want, Primo. How about roster
sizes expanding, Let's get a couple of guys some more jobs.
More jobs are always good, good for the players. And
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then the one thing that I have not figured out
more than anything, is that only Roger Goodell people forget this,
made himself judge, jure and executioner. And then when you
want to peel, who do you go to? Dear old
raj that's just corrupted itself. Why would you ever let
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that happen. So it's like I go to a court,
the judge finds me, you know, I'm guilty. Then I
go back to the same judge who already found me guilty.
And by the way, when I appeal, you know who
I go to that same judge you found me guilty.
He don't like me anymore. Now I need an impartial person.
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I mean, Demorris Smith signed one of the worst agreements
in the history of mankind. The players got made a
bad deal, bad deal, and I love how people are like,
you don't look you're bad deal. It's bet with my
crappy life. I don't care if you have a crappy life.
That's on you, dude. Fix your crappy life. Don't blame
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the players. All they're doing is just trying to play.
You're not happy with your life, fix it. You don't
like what you do, go do something else. I I
had a career change in life work for me. I'm broke,
but I'm happy. There you go. That's how it works.
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I just find people are brutal. I mean, they're just
brutal onto it and it's a safe place to be brutal. Right,
Half the people doesn't matter. You'll be out by week
five anyway with an injury. JJ Oh, here's another guy. Really,
because the NFL doesn't exist without his fan base. Players
don't make millions with the fan base. These guys make
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millions to play football. You can't play one more game, seriously,
why don't you play one more game? Dude? And when
these guys come at you and you get a concussion
and you can't walk when you're fifty, then you talk.
It's mind boggling to me. Everybody's a three fifty pounds
person on Twitter. We're big old gorillas on Twitter. I
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would pay any of these guys money to go say
any of this stuff to J. J. Watt's face. How
many people would do that. You're a big tough guy
on social media. Go do it to somebody's face. Yeah,
you know him right? All right? Time now to put
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away the insurance cards, put away the co pay. The
office is close, my friends. I wish you guys a
great weekend. Sean, thank you for all your hard work
this week. I appreciate it. And guys out there enjoy
your weekend. All right? Does this Dr Roto saying be well,
take care
All right, it's dr Roto and get out the insurance cards,
get out the co pay. The office is open, my friends.
Sorry about the delay, but we're back now. It's a Friday.
Things happened on Friday's, you know, and so so we
excuse that. We don't if it was Monday, that'd be different.
But Friday, we can let it go. Right. Speaking of
letting it go, I'm in the slow draft here and
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for tout Wars, and people are starting to get a
little chippy. I don't know if you guys are done
a draft, Champions League before or these slow drafts. And
what happens is normally there's like an eight hour clock.
Some leagues have four hour clocks. Some leagues even have
two hour clocks. Well, this league has no clock. This
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is just you know, get it done. So we started
this draft on Monday and now it's Friday, and people
were liking around twelve, and people are getting chippy. They're like,
we only made a few picks to today. I only
made one pick yesterday. And somebody's like, I don't want
to be that guy, but can we hired this up.
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It's a slow draft. It's a slow draft. They're imperfect
so and this is this is a true story. We're
gonna tell you. So last night it was eleven o'clock
and there was one guy and then me. So I'm
thinking I'm gonna make a pick last night, right, I'm
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up late. Well, the guy in front of me didn't
make a pick until seven or four am. Sorry, dude,
about one am. I'm going to bed. I'd stayed up
to about one try to make a pick. So when
I woke up this morning at things to do, Sorry
about that. So I made my pick at ten. What
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am I gonna tell you? I was up until one
thirty in the morning. I didn't tell this guy to
go to bed at eleven o'clock and make his pick
at seven am. That's how it works. We lose we
we we lose time. Right there. You go shut off
the clock at night. You play in these leagues. Shut
off the clock at night. That's what it's supposed to be.
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The clock should go off between midnight and eight am.
Right then am you turn the clock back on, and
let's give everybody two hours to pick. Right now, Look,
I got a radio show. I'm talking to you, but
I can still pick. We have commercial breaks and stuff.
We have cues, right, But when you're in a slow draft,
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it's exactly what that is. It's a slow draft. And
I've had this debate with people over many, many times,
seriously many times. If you have six hours to pick
on the clock, should you pick in an hour? No?
Should you take five hours and fifty eight minutes. That's
you're right, that's you're right. You have six hours on
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the clock. You want to take one hour, you want
to take five hours and fifty nine minutes, that's on you.
It is my choice whether to join that league or not.
Now we could say, hey, guys, let's pick up the pace.
Or once you do that once or twice, it's frustrating.
It's frustrating. What am I gonna do. Matt Modicke is
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on the clock. Maybe he didn't make a pick. I
don't know what he's doing. Maybe he's busy. Who knows
what's going on in his life? Should happened, you know,
beyond all the time. If you're gonna be on all
the time, then we should have just done a draft
in one night. It's a slow draft. I'm hoping to
be done in three weeks. To be quite honest with you,
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If I'm done in three weeks, it's good. It's fifty rounds.
How many? If I get through two rounds a day two,
that's pretty good. Right, there's fifteen teams in the league.
I gotta get fifteen guys away from their lives, wives, kids, jobs, dogs,
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whatever else it is, right, I gotta get that. I
gotta get fifteen guys at different times over a course
of a twenty four hour day. If I can get
through two picks, I'm ecstatic. Two picks, fight about fifty
Not good at math when I'm good at that kind
of math. Twenty five days, boom, three weeks. That's how
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long it takes. If you could do it any faster
than that, you got a fast draft, or put on
a two or four or three or five hour o'clock
and there you go. But you gotta do something overnight.
Eight hours passed last night. We could have drafted the
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night before. Are we actually drafted five times in one am.
That's what happens in these leagues. So I tell you this,
if you are in a slow draft league, there's really
really nothing you can do to complains. Nothing you can do,
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being quite honest with you, and I'd be the first
one to complain. Let me tell you, I'll be all
over that. It's just slow. It's just slow because I'm
usually ready to go. I'm usually ready to go. I
kind of know what I want to do all the
way I'm in. But you know what, it doesn't always
work that way. It doesn't always work that way. Life happens,
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things get in the way. If I'm in a regular
draft at eight o'clock at night, I expected to go.
Now here's another thing. If you're in a regular draft, right,
and there's ninety seconds between picks, should I expect a guy?
Should I expect to pick before nine seconds? No? And
there are always people always, and trust me, you know
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how many football drafts I do a year. Tons, there's
always be somebody who takes the full ninety seconds. Every
single time. There's always somebody. I'm never that guy. Usually
I have like tooth people, maybe three. When it comes
to me, there's one or two left. I know who
I'm taking. Boom. I'm usually making my pick within thirty seconds.
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I would kill, kill, kill kill to being a league
that is like sixty seconds. It's like speed chess, go
go go, go, go, go go go. How cool would
that be? I'd love that sixty seconds or less get
it done. You know what you wanted? You don't, that
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would be great, but ninety seconds it feels law. Telling
you that for football feels very feels like an eternity.
And it's especially when somebody's got like the picks on
the wheel on one or or twelve. You're like, seriously, dude,
do you need three minutes? It almost feels unfair. It
almost feels that the timing is unfair. But those are
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the rules. There's nothing I can really do. I can't
argue it, can't fight it. It is what it is.
So you've got to just adapt. You adapt to the rules.
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And if you don't like it, and what I do
like about the NFBC, to be quite honest with you,
they've changed. Instead of eight hours, you can be in
leagues that are four hours, leagues that are two hours.
I love that. You want to be in a fast draft.
Do a two hour league. You'll be done those fifty rounds,
you'll be done in a week. Boom ba boo boom.
That's good stuff. But you've got to be tied to
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your computer, right and then there's always somebody who's chiming in.
I alway should be done by the all star barring
You're so funny. I love message boards. Most people are
not nearly as funny as they think they are. That's
what I've learned in life. Talking about this with my
kids the other day. Most people think they're funny. They're
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not funny. I hate to break it to you. This
has given the New Meetings to the term slow draft.
You're hysterical. Oh my god, seriously, dude, can we come
up with something funnier? You're not funny, not clever? Right,
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people are funny. Those don't have to try. Right, the
people are funny, and those are like did he just
say that it was pretty funny? You know, like whey,
where did that come from? I like that kind of humor,
not not. I don't know. I don't even want to
go there. But my point being this, you know the
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rules of your draft before you get into your draft.
Whatever that draft is nine seconds, two minutes, two hours.
People have the right to take as much of that
clock as they want. Can it be frustrating? Yes? Do
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I empathize with you? Absolutely? Is there anything I can
do about it? No? What do you want to do
about it? Don't be in that league. Quit that league,
so many leagues at quick because I'm annoyed because I
don't like something about that that's in the league. Whether
it's a trading thing or something. Don't do it. But
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you gotta you gotta go with the whatever the league is,
all right. So it's a slow draft. Just understand that.
I think some people prefer slow draft. I like to
watch the draft unfold. I want to think about my pick.
I want to take an hour. I think sometimes one
of the things the biggest mistakes people can do in
these slow drafts is pick right away. Well, there's always
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new information coming on. So let me ask you this.
You Seal Puig, is he signing with anybody yet? I
don't know they're talking about it. They're talking about him
signing with the Colorado Rockies. Well on the White Sox.
That's big news. So I might wait a little bit
to see if he signs. If he does, maybe I
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take him. That's news. That's an advantage, right, You can
use that extra time to your advantage. That's why you know,
if guys get injured Luis Savarino forearm tightness, Jordan Montgomery,
let me pick him boom right. Use that to your advantage.
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That's what people do, right, That is what people do.
That's how you win leagues by out maneuver, bring your
opponents right by being more clever than your opponent. Use
the rules to your advantage. All right, gonna take a
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little break. When we come back, I'm gonna talk to
you about something that is I would I would call
this pretty darn frustrating. Do you take a player based
on need or you take a player based on value?
What to do with that? This is very frustrating. And
when you're in a fantasy baseball draft, I will give
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you the position that I'm in now, and we will
discuss what the right thing to do is we'll do
when we return right after this. All right, we're back, alright,
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more stuff from the message boards. A J. Henchill be
back in Major League Baseball by the time this draft
is over. Oh my god, it's not funny. You're not funny.
H you're not funny. All right. I'm dr Roto with
full time Fantasy. Check me out a full time Fantasy
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two months and you can take advantage of the team
outlooks by Sean Childs, which are very complete, and I'm
starting to do my baseball podcast previews in ten minutes
or less. I had to do the Orioles podcast today. Honestly,
it could have been about a two minute podcast. I
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lengthened that it's about seven minutes, but it really could
have been two minutes. Avoid all Orioles, be well, take
care of my friends. There you go, Oh you want
to draft John means okay with that, and be well,
take care. But I didn't do that, all right, So
I want to get to something that's been happening recently
in my draft. Do you ever get to a point
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in in a draft at whether it's football or baseball,
where you look at all the players and you're like,
I don't like anybody, right, Like I don't like any
of these guys, and then you don't know what to do.
So I'm looking at all the pictures out there and
there's not one of them, not one that shouts out
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at me, dr roto draft me. Please, not one. So
what do you do? Do you a draft one of
these guys, B pick more offense or see cry yourself
to sleep well. See is also a good choice, but
I will say I think choosing between A and B
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is a tough one. Part of me has said on
this show before. Never settle. I never want to settle
for a guy that I don't like. So if I
don't really like Luke Weaver, I don't like Massahiro Tanaka,
I don't like these guys, don't take them. But the
problem is, at some point, if I keep saying that,
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then I'm gonna be left with guys way worse than that.
I'm gonna be looking at like I don't know Kyle
Gibson and Nathan Huvaldi and I'll be wishing from Massahiro Tanaka.
Or do I just keep on adding offense and offense
and offense because those are the players I like. I
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think there's a balance somewhere in between. I think that
I've got to find And I recommend that you find
a picture you can live with while still drafting the
offensive guys you like. So you know, I'm I'm drafting ten.
So on one pick, I will try to take a picture,
and in one pick I'll try to take a hitter.
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I won't take two pictures. I won't ever do that
to myself because I really don't like a guy. I
don't want to take two of things I don't want.
It's bad enough for me to have one of something
I don't want, let alone two. I'm not gonna take
Tanaka and Luke Weaver and feel good about it. I'm
not gonna do it. But I might take Tanaka and
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a hitter, and then I could feel a little bit
better because I don't want rip or Cella. I don't
want John Lester, I don't want Julio Tehran. And then
all of a sudden, I'm gonna be taking a lot
of reaches later on in the draft, and I can't
do that because I can't win. So earlier today I
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had to take Joe must Grove. I don't really like
Joe must Grove, but he was what we'll call the
best of the worst. Right, So I have Walker Bueller,
who I love. I have Lucas Giulito, who I love.
I have Ken Giles, who I love, And now I
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gotta start adding picture to who I may not like
as much. But what's my point if but what's my choice?
If I don't take Joe Musgrove, I'm gonna get Tanner
row Arc and that's gonna be even worse. Seriously, So
you got to bite the bullet, and sometimes I can't
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always go with value. I have to go with a
position because if I don't go with the position, if
I keep on waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting
and waiting, I'm gonna end up with a train wreck.
And I can't have a train wreck. Now, when it
comes to catchers, I think that it's something that a
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lot of people have different ways of dealing with catchers.
There are some people who swear by the too catcher
at the end theory, and I'm cool with that. That
theory makes sense to me. But I tend to like
the theory of I don't want to take my catcher early.
That's not gonna be me. But if I could get
one catcher in like rounds nine through twelve, one one guy,
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I can then get my second guy probably in rounds
like fourteen through seventeen, and then I'm better off. It's
almost like taking this tight end in football. I don't
need Travis Kelsey, but I don't want to Eric Ebrons right,
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Kelsey is gonna cost me a second round pick. I
don't want to do that, So I want to take
maybe a seventh round tight end. Well, Darren Waller and
then come back with the eleventh round tight end Austin Hooper,
and now I'm better off. Right, that's how you can
win a fantasy baseball league or fantasy football league. I
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think that makes some sense there, right, So with catchers,
try to get one guy in the first first, eleven
to twelve rounds, then take your next guy before round.
Most people won't do that. Most people will wait and
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wait and wait and wait, and then you know what
you could have. You can have a couple of holes
in your lineup and want holes in my lineup, right,
I don't I don't want that at all. Okay, I
don't want zeros. Zeros I can't win. Okay. So let
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me also bring out something that Papa Roto once said
to me. I think it was before I went to college,
and he gave me words of advice. Besides stay away
from grain alcohol, maybe his other thing he said was
all women have idiosyncrasies. It's a question of what you
can live with. It's probably true, very very salient point. Right.
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Everybody's a little crazy, so it's a question of can
they're crazies match up with your crazies. I used this
philosophy also when it comes to drafting, I do. Every
player at a certain point has an imperfection, and it
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usually begins somewhere in Round five, could even be round four.
It really could even be round four. Very few imperfections
in round one, right, Round two, pretty pretty pretty good,
pretty good. Round three, Depending on where you're drafting, you
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feel pretty good about that guy. That player is pretty solid.
But now by round four gets a little dicey, and
then by round five you're like, well, I like this guy,
but right I like her, but I don't know. I
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just got one eyebrow that's a a little funky. You know,
I like her, but maybe she does have one nostril
a little bigger than the other one. You know what
I'm saying, Well, imperfection. Now everybody's perfect except you look
in the mirror. You're you're perfect, So you know what
I'm saying. They're like you start looking at players later
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on and you realize that there are imperfections. The question
is which imperfections can you deal with? Well, as the
draft goes on, we figure that out. Maybe in round five,
a guy's batting average could be a little imperfect. Maybe
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in round six, the fact that he doesn't have that
many stolen bases, that's okay. Maybe in round nine. The
fact that he's a little light on power, I think
I could deal with that. The imperfections change as your
draft unfolds. But nobody is perfect outside your first couple
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of players, right, and then it's about making sure that
you're in perfections line up? Can I create a perfectly
imperfect team? Right? Can I cobble together a hundred stolen basis?
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Can I cobble together three and fifty home runs? Can
I get a batting average of to sixty or two seventy,
which will probably help when your league this year? Right?
Everybody has their flaws. Everybody has their flaws. It's a
question of what you can live with and when with pictures.
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Maybe a guy doesn't win many games like Joe must grow.
Maybe a guy doesn't get that many strikeouts. Maybe a
guy you know walks too many batters. Everybody's imperfect. At
some point in the draft, there's no more perfection, right,
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there's no more perfection you're looking at You're like, oh,
I don't like anybody here. Well, that's what happens. Sometimes
there's it's very hard to like people, but you have
to figure it out. You've got to maneuver and figure
out which imperfections you can live with. Papa Rodo is right.
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He was right, or she wasn't talking about fantasy at
the time. He's talking about the rest of my life.
But he was right in terms of fantasy, and he
didn't even know it. Right. When you're putting your team together,
who's got speed, who does padding average? Who has power?
That's why we like guys who have a little bit
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of both runs and ten stolen basis, I can find
some love for you. You can at home runs and
twenty stolen basis, I can often have some love for you.
That's how it works. Okay, all right, we're gonna take
a little time out. When we come back, Fantasy football
and Fantasy Baseball news and notes the things you need
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to know before you head out for the weekend. I'm
Dr Rodo. I'm with full time Fantasy, and I'll be
back with you right after this. M all right, we
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are back Dr roto with you here. Some some news
in the NFL. The NFL Players Association Executive Committee recommended
to decline the proposed collective bargaining Agreement to the thirty
two man NFL player representative Board of Representatives. They said,
the committee does not have final to say, but it's
notable that the vote went six to five in favor
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of declining the proposed offer. Now the Board of Representatives
will discuss and vote on the proposal. The NFL Players
Association constitution outlines at the paying members of the union,
not the Board of Representatives, will have the final say
in the proposal. The players just need a majority vote
to agree to the owner's current proposal. So here's what
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they're gonna sort out. The revenue split, which is poor,
the seventeen game schedule, roster sizes has come up, player
punishment has come up. Also, the whole thing about activating
a third player off injured reserve during season. Other edity
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tales include increased rosters right going from fifty three to
fifty five, and increase in practice squad sizes. UM. I
don't know, but of course here's that. There are a
number of positive takeaways in the proposal, but the greater
war still feels one side of the favor of the
owners yet thank J. J. Watton Richard Sherman expressed their disagreement. Well,
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let's see, Jay, Jay, what think what J J? Watt
is said, please hold thank you hard knowing that proposed
c b A. Here you go, hard, No, let's see why.
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Uh yeah, the NFL billionaires negotiated among themselves and made
an offer. From my understanding, this is from John Love,
the Gridiron scholar, never spoke with the NFL players association,
and then I love, I love the response from fans.
Stick to football, buddy. You guys are really spoiled. If
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you would live one month of real life with real problems,
it would be a hard Yes. Yeah, millionaires complaining about
not getting paid up by the billionaires, so sad? What
are the people thinking? People just blow my mind sometimes.
So that is that's like one of the worst reactions.
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Oh so, here's this guy, some guy named Adam reading
the comments and the random Joe schmo is siding with
the owners is one of the most ridiculous things ever.
I'll never understand it. Agreed, agreed. So you want j J.
Watt and the players to make a bad deal just
because you have worse problems in life? What what does
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that say about you? I'm sorry that you have problems.
That doesn't mean j J watchoul sign a bad deal.
People are crazy. Players can get whatever they want if
you're willing to lock out. No one wanted to watch
replacement refs. They want to watch playment playment. Yeah, that
doesn't really work out too well. Wow. And then this
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guy goes, can you play a full sixteen again? Before complaining? Seriously,
you're gonna bust on J. J. Watt because he's injured.
You think J J. Watt wants to be injured? Oh
my god, Oh here we go. Mike JS goes, fine,
then lock out. You have the right to sit out
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and not play. Are there for more money or for
your health? But remember I others can take our hard earned,
low income money to other entertainment. Have you seen movies lately? Seriously,
Mike JS. Have you seen movies lately? Mike J s
Most of them stink. I take a bad NFL game
over a bad movie any day. You to a movie theater,
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By the way, tell me if it's this sounds right.
You go to a movie theater, there's like movie which
is like Maria Manudos, which is about ten minutes or
twenty minutes of that. Then you gotta watch some like
pick from some couple of kids that from some film class.
And then there's literally two minutes of previews. We haven't
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even seen the movie yet. I gotta pay. That's how
old I'm getting. Right. Then the movie comes and it's
like four hours later. What the heck? Well, in the
old days, you threw up two previews, show me the movie, boom,
put my I'm out of there. I guess Mike j
s would much prefer that than a football game. So,
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m hmm, Well, this guy says something interesting. Joe Jenkin
says something as paying season ticket holder paying full price
for two garbage time preseason games as a joke. I
agree with that, Joe. I agree with that. Mm hmm.
Just trying to go through here, Yeah, why m hmm,
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just going through and people lockout. You can't lock out?
Oh yeah, this one. You'll be hurt by week four? Anyway? Overrated? Great?
Why would you devalue the best regular season sports and
dilute the value of playoff competition? Makes no sense that
the only answer is money. It's acreed by privilege, is it.
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I don't think that they're just I don't think they're
doing that for more money. I think the biggest prices.
The problem is this, Here's why you guys are missing, right, Firstly,
the players are getting a bad deal by the owners.
They're not getting a great revenue split. The NBA players
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get way more money than the NFL players. Now, the
the NBA has realized something that the NFL, for some
reason hasn't. The NBA owners know that their product is
their player, right. They know that their product is the player,
whereas in football they believe the product is the team.
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The Panthers the Chiefs. If Pat Mahomes wasn't the chief
you wouldn't be that interested in the Chiefs. Tell me
I'm wrong. When Matt Morrow is the quarterback, would you
be wanting to watch the Chiefs play? I don't think so.
The players are integral to this process. I don't know
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why people don't understand that. And I haven't figured out
why the NFL Players Association has let themselves get such
a bad deal by the owners. Bad the players make
the league. Fact I get. If I'm the players, I'd
want five let the owners get That's where I start.
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You don't like it, I'm not playing, then there won't
be football, right. I think they're trying to get up
to forty eight and a half percent. They're not even
at They're not even full partners. At least if you
said to me revenue split, I can get behind that.
That's one, right, that's one. Secondly, what are people also
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complaining about the seventeen game schedule? Well, Roger Goodell wants
that extra game. What do the players get? Roger Goodell
wants that extra week desperately more money. More money is
good for everybody, right, does it dilute the game? I
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don't know the answer to that. Could guys get hurt? Maybe? So?
So if you in one more game? I want better
health care. I want the Primo package. Somebody get me
blue Cross, blue Shield. I want the Platinum package. No
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more bronze package for the NFL guys, give me the
Primo med That's what I want, Primo. How about roster
sizes expanding, Let's get a couple of guys some more jobs.
More jobs are always good, good for the players. And
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then the one thing that I have not figured out
more than anything, is that only Roger Goodell people forget this,
made himself judge, jure and executioner. And then when you
want to peel, who do you go to? Dear old
raj that's just corrupted itself. Why would you ever let
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that happen. So it's like I go to a court,
the judge finds me, you know, I'm guilty. Then I
go back to the same judge who already found me guilty.
And by the way, when I appeal, you know who
I go to that same judge you found me guilty.
He don't like me anymore. Now I need an impartial person.
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I mean, Demorris Smith signed one of the worst agreements
in the history of mankind. The players got made a
bad deal, bad deal, and I love how people are like,
you don't look you're bad deal. It's bet with my
crappy life. I don't care if you have a crappy life.
That's on you, dude. Fix your crappy life. Don't blame
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the players. All they're doing is just trying to play.
You're not happy with your life, fix it. You don't
like what you do, go do something else. I I
had a career change in life work for me. I'm broke,
but I'm happy. There you go. That's how it works.
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I just find people are brutal. I mean, they're just
brutal onto it and it's a safe place to be brutal. Right,
Half the people doesn't matter. You'll be out by week
five anyway with an injury. JJ Oh, here's another guy. Really,
because the NFL doesn't exist without his fan base. Players
don't make millions with the fan base. These guys make
(36:28):
millions to play football. You can't play one more game, seriously,
why don't you play one more game? Dude? And when
these guys come at you and you get a concussion
and you can't walk when you're fifty, then you talk.
It's mind boggling to me. Everybody's a three fifty pounds
person on Twitter. We're big old gorillas on Twitter. I
(36:51):
would pay any of these guys money to go say
any of this stuff to J. J. Watt's face. How
many people would do that. You're a big tough guy
on social media. Go do it to somebody's face. Yeah,
you know him right? All right? Time now to put
(37:11):
away the insurance cards, put away the co pay. The
office is close, my friends. I wish you guys a
great weekend. Sean, thank you for all your hard work
this week. I appreciate it. And guys out there enjoy
your weekend. All right? Does this Dr Roto saying be well,
take care
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