March 30, 2025 • 14 mins
Welcome to Hello Bump, a podcast about what you’re not expecting when you’re expecting.
In this episode, hosts Jana Pittman and Grace Rouvray reveal your baby is around the size of a blueberry, a pearl… or a mini marshmallow! At week seven, your baby’s brain is continuing to develop, as well as lenses in its eyes and the liver is even developing red blood cells. Your morning sickness may also have kicked in making it hard to eat a variety of foods. Plus, Jana explains why your nipples are changing shape and colour.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am pregnanty.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome to Hello Bump.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and more hopefully manageable. I'm
gracery Ray, I'm pregnant for the first time and at
week seven, I vomited for the first time.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, I'm young a Pittman.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm a former Olympian, I'm an obs and guyany trainee,
and a mother of six small humans.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Each week, Yano and I will be holding your hand
week by week through the mysterious, perplexing, and sometimes nauseating
miracle that is pregnancy. Week seven, Okay, what size is
the baby at?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I like this one. It's the size of a blueberry.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
This week, I loved the blueberry because you can actually
get a lentil. We did this at home. We got
a sesame seed, a lentil, and a blueberry, and I'm like, oh,
and that's a big jump from lentil to blueberry. Yes,
it could also be a pearl or a mini marshall,
a peanut, M and M.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Really, it's ten to fourteen millimeters, so I mean that's
more than a centimeter now, so that's to me, that's
substantial point something there.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So what are those sea monkeys they start to grow?
It was like that, which is ironically what it also
looks like. What is happening to them? What have they
grown in the last week?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So developmentally, your baby's brain is now even more formed.
It continues a whole of pregnancy, so one of the
th we see lots of milestones in other areas of
the baby, but its brain actually is from wadigo. So
that's why it's important from a protective thing with alcohol
and things like that in pregnancy to start thinking really
closely now about what you're taking in. A little one's
face is now more defined. So it's even got lenses
in its eyes that are starting to develop, which is
(01:51):
nuts considering it's it's fairly early in pregnancy that it doesn't
need to see for quite a while. And the little
one's liver is now starting to make some red blood cells.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's interesting what they actually start to develop first, like
a brain, little nubs, nostrils, Is this correct that? Like
respiratory is one of the last things that they develop.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To be at a qu developed.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So the whole system starts to develop, but the alvoli,
which is a little air sax inside the lungs of
what you need to sustain that oxygen exchange, that's very,
very late. So that's why pre term babies really struggle
with breathing. And we often offer steroids for babies under
thirty four weeks because they actually have what's called nos
and facts affectant, which is basically a little it's a
product that props open the alveola to help them breathe.
(02:32):
So obviously at this gestation, guys, unfortunately there is no
way your little one.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Would survive outside of you.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But it is a discussion as we get through these
episodes that we will talk a little bit more about.
But yes, amazing that all these structures are already developing
so early in pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What happening? What's happening to me?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And in terms of what's happening to us, I'll go first,
I've started vomiting. At week seven, I did start vomiting.
And it's always by definition morning sickness. I was the
absolute definition of morning sickness. It was in the morning,
it was before eating. Yeah, I would wake up. I
wasn't quite fatigued. Oh that, you know, jet lag feeling.
We spoke about it. I was waking up at like
(03:08):
three am, very needing to eat, and then that's when
i'd vomit and sort of have like interimittent having to
have toast, and then I'd vomit and sort of do that,
and then I'd push through the first or three hours of.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
The morning and then I could function.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Ish ish, I.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Think it's the big word. Yeah, And again, so much
variation in pregnancy. We have some women who even at
this stage, have to start seeing their doctor more frequently
because they can't keep anything down. And so while we say,
and I know everyone said this before, but while we
say morning sickness, we definitely have people that have all
day sickness, all night sickness, unable to cope with anything, sickness.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And it's real.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And so I think until you've experienced it, it's very
well to go, oh, yeah, she's pregnant, But no, for
some women, it is unbelievably debilitating and unfortunately only gets worse. So, yes,
what did you do to help through that couple of weeks?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
At this stage, it always kind of knew I hadn't
gone to a dark place about it, which we'll get
to when it's It's not that it was exciting, it
was like, oh, this is the thing that you see
in the movies. It was definitely worse than I thought
it was going to be in terms of it was
only vomiting in the morning, but the nausea was all day.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
And wretching as well. Like, sorry, someone's pregnant, listening to
that probably just make them ratch.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I even list the things that made me ratch that
could make people feel sick.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
What worked? Twisties? Twisties?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know, whatever you need right now.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Is do it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, But I do want to talk about the guilt
of what you're putting in your body when you are
feeling nauseous, because we hear all these things about having
folate and making sure you're having this vitamin and this
fidamin this vitamin, but then all you're able to eat,
and at time of recording, I'm twenty eight weeks and
I'm still a lot of veggiemite and cheese on toast.
But there is a lot of guilt about what you're
(04:50):
able to put into your body. Do you have any
helpful tips for women who might be feeling guilty, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Feel guilty, and it's very eating and I know it's
easier said than done, but ultimately this point of time,
it's a survival. And like we say, it's not always
going to be like this. We know that sometimes for
some women it is the whole pregnancy of my mum unfortunately,
but you know she was growing in an Olympian so
you know.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
She had to kind of little legs there to show she.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Lost eleven kilos in pregnancy. She was that sick with
it so and I always remember her complaining about it.
When I was pregnant, I didn't have it as bad
that hum No, and then when I had the twins
it was shocking. So the guilt has to be removed
because you can't. You can only do what you're doing,
and there's enough to worry about just getting up in
the day and not vomiting or finding ways obviously there
we're going to go through the medical ways to help
with vomiting. There's lots of things, So I think the
(05:32):
key there is reach out. If your noise is so
bad that you're not coping with daily life, it's time
to see your GP because there is actually things we
can do and by the time you wait till thirteen
or fourteen weeks, when it's out of control, You've lost weight,
you're feeling sick, you're dehydrated.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's not going to hurt the baby.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
By the way, guys, I'm just going to put that
in straight away because we always have women saying, well,
I have an eaten for you know three months, have
I hurt my baby?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, you haven't. The little parasites they will steal everything
from you. They'll steal your coups in.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, they're taking it from you. Is that why some
women like lose their teeth because they've stripped.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The cows everything.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
They're vitamin D they strip out your stiff at your
iron levels.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So even if you're eating.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Adequate red meat, you will still likely have lower iron
in pregnancy. But that's what they're there for, and that's
why you can be reassured that if you're eating twisties
for lunch, so be it, because oultimately you need to
eat something that's going to reduce your nauture and hopefully
by the way, I'm a big believer in bananas, so
I might be in Australian Banana's ambassador, so I apologize
the throwing of them, they'll love me. But it's actually
(06:26):
more than that. They've got great FOL eight levels, they've
got great B six levels, they've got good levels of
other nutrients and vitamins to actually allow you. So I
actually think it's almost the perfect natural remedy for nausea,
but also has some good support, great fiber and vitamin
C and things to actually make sure you're supporting yourself.
So you do your best you can, you put in
the bits of the food when you can, and other
times you just need.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
To give yourself a break.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Is this normal?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Normal? I have a funny one.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
This one great.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, you don't have to be honest and say if
it happened to you. But your nipples change color often
around this time in pregnancy, and it's interesting and that's
mainly mainly because you have an increase in again in
those hormones of pregnancy, progesterone and esugen, but they actually
also affect your melotone and your melanin. Not melotone that's
what makes you sleep. You need some of that too,
your melanin production, which is the pigment making hormone responsible
(07:11):
for skin color, and so your melanosites live all over
your body, but they're concentrated in places like in nipples
and eventually a linear albur if you get the cu
the lineup and dagger tummy, and so quite often people
say around this time they noticed dark nipples.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Mine didn't go dark, they started changing shape.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, okay, maybe it was a few weeks later, But
how I've described them is just like they just look
keen for.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Headlights.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, we will already be starting to have fullness in
your breasts because they all have that breast tissue starting
at some point to get ready to obviously sustain pregnancy.
We're also laying down more fat already, guys, so we
do have that. You know, in early pregnancy, even though
the baby's still small, you are starting into on a
little bit of weight, and that's largely for if you
do have nausea and things like that, you will sustain
and be able to use the fat stores you've got
(07:54):
for baby and for protection around whether the growing pregnancy
will be around your abdomen.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Is this where you can also get a bit of
water retention because I noticed, like I wasn't drinking. So
sometimes when you're fake, like if you had a big weekend,
your face is inflated. I did notice my face was
like a bit more swollen, just more water retention, and
it felt like is that normal?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You can thank the progesterone again for that. Everything.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's called the laxicity hormone because everything gets more relaxed,
and we'll talk about Varico's veins and things like that
in coming episodes, but it is the one that responsible
for your hips opening. Everything sort of relaxing and dropping down,
including the walls in your vessels and then lik fluid
out a bit more.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, Unfortunately, bloating in your tummy and everywhere is something
that you will likely contend with in pregnancy, even now
at seven weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Okay, what can we do? What's something on the to
do list? What are some practical things apart from twisties?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
This is the time we need to have definitely done
your blood tests by so. I know we've mentioned it before,
but now it's time you should have had your dating scan.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I have had my dating scan.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I went to We talked about it in a previous episode,
going to a women's specific ultrasound, which everyone recommended. Along
the way, like I was seeing a nutrition as she
was like, they're the best in the business I was
seeing my GP. She's like, everyone goes there, even the
gynecologists and obstetricians.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
They go there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And when I went in, I can see why that
was because they just were so good at taking you
through the steps. They knew the anxiety that each new
parent would have and how to cross those things off
the list.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So I walked in, they said, we.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Might not see the flicker of the heartbeat, we might
not see this, it could be too small, but what
I'm looking for is this. And then she basically put
the wand on me and was like, Okay, I can
see that. I can't remember if she said fetus, but
she's said I.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Can see it. There's just one.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, this is important.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
We're going to have a good scan.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And then that was the first ten seconds of the
appointment and then you just get to like relax. And
one thing I did want to ask is if you
spend a bit too much time online. There is some
commentary about internal versus external ultrasounds and people saying you
can say no to an internal, which I didn't say
no to it because I think they're the medical professionals
(09:59):
and they are checking, so they're checking for your cervix,
making sure it's closed and long, that you're not going
to have pre term labor is. Any of those tests
can be done externally.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The reason we do internal scans is often if we
can't see enough externally. So at twenty weeks, I would
strongly recommend an internal exam. Okay, so that's a few
weeks away, but that is when the cervix can really
be picked up. At this point, your cervix is likely
to be long and closed. So at eight weeks gestation,
if they can see everything they need trans abdominantly maybe
not as important, but again, when it's external, they can't
(10:32):
really closely. I'm using my fingers now to show really
closely show the crown rump length, and that's what we
want to know.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
How old is this little baby?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Because would you believe all babies at this gestation are
the same size. So it's not until like week twenty
and onwards that we actually start seeing some variation between
babies and when we can look for things like growth
restriction and things like that, so it is a more
accurate internal exam. I certainly had it because I'm like, well,
it doesn't bother me, you know, it's just and it's
not uncomfortable guys. I mean some people might say, you know,
if you've got faginismus or any problems with your pelvic floor,
you might might want to avoid it. But they put
(11:01):
a little condom over the like it basically looks like
a skinny tube. They gently put it against the vagina
and then they push it inside, so it's very gentle.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Worth better than a peraps me like, I wouldn't even
put it in the same category.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, because I don't think you're going up that far.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, at the old time probaty needs to go to
the point where they can actually see the pregnancy. So
it goes in very gently, it comes out the same
and you do get very good, robust pictures of your baby.
But I can tell you if you go to one of
those great old sound companies, if they feel like they
need it, they'll do it. They won't do it unless
they they think it's required. But I think it's important
to why do we have a dating scan? So firstly, yes,
is the pregnancy viable? Is there any the concerns we
need to see? Is there one baby or as there more?
(11:37):
I can tell you when I found out I had
two heartbeats.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was a bit of a shock at your dating
dating the two sacks as well, Grace.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I'm gonna be honest, I actually scanned myself before and
kind of already recognize it was possible, but they confirmed their.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, don't do that at home. Don't do that at home.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
In fact, on that note, no dopless please, guys. Okay,
we will talk about it again later. So the other
reason to do it is we're not thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
About it yet.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But if at some point in your pregnancy we need
to birth your baby early, you need to know what
gestation it is, because there's if we're going to talk
about all the embryological changes as your baby grows through
to term, which is when you're roughly between over thirty
seven weeks, but if there's a chance your baby comes early,
or for example, even more importantly, around that viability age,
which is twenty three weeks in pregnancy, it's really important
(12:21):
to know if you're twenty two weeks and four days
or twenty three weeks in four days. And so that's
why that to ultrasound is essential.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Does it matter when there's a sliding scale of two
days either side.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, so when you're dating your pregnancy, if you have
a really regular period, we actually still use your your
cycle rather than the ultrasound unless there's a variation of
more than three days. So if there's a huge variation
or someone has any regular cycle, we'll use the dating scan,
but we like them to kind of marry up. So
it's nice to know when was your LMP your last
mental period and does it correspond on is it the
(12:52):
same as your dating scan within two to three days.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think it's also important to say in the dating
scan they can see a heartbeat flicker, but they never
you can't hear it.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You don't expect to hear it, which was good.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They told me that sort of first stump that you're
not going to get that moment of hearing that, but
not for a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
No, we don't want to because it's it's ULTRASI it's
very safe in pregnancy, but there's certain wave forms and
things that you don't want to use until later in pregnancy.
So it's actually you can see it and visually see it,
and so they don't want to. Yeah, that's way outside
the scope of this and I'm still learning it to
be honest. As a trainee, I've been wonderfully lucky to
have done an ultrasound course already, but it's something that's
not safe to do at that point in pregnancy, which
is why we don't do.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It for the talkkit this week. This is a toolkit
that was given to me by other people, and I
just I think I want to bring it up because
it didn't work. So people will also tell you it's ginger.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, it does work a little bit. It's about it's
all those old wives tales.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Though, yeah, I don't know. I've got a buye to
be quick ginger.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Really, I think I thought it worked because I was
taking something and now it's probably a what's it called?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Where now I see ginger.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And you hate it? It's a version again.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Now I have an aversion to ginger because of this stage.
If everyone being like, that'll fix you, like ginger, Tea's
have the pregnancy team with the ginger yea.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I mean anecdotally, it's one of those what's in science?
What's the science behind it? Some science? But look, I
think we need to dedicate an episode to ginger, not
ginger grace, goodness, to what you can do so lots
and lots of naturopathic over the counter stuff, but there's
also stuff medically that are required that we can give
you to really really change that platform.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah great.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
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Speaker 1 (14:58):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am pregnanty.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome to Hello Bump.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and more hopefully manageable. I'm
gracery Ray, I'm pregnant for the first time and at
week seven, I vomited for the first time.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, I'm young a Pittman.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm a former Olympian, I'm an obs and guyany trainee,
and a mother of six small humans.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Each week, Yano and I will be holding your hand
week by week through the mysterious, perplexing, and sometimes nauseating
miracle that is pregnancy. Week seven, Okay, what size is
the baby at?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I like this one. It's the size of a blueberry.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
This week, I loved the blueberry because you can actually
get a lentil. We did this at home. We got
a sesame seed, a lentil, and a blueberry, and I'm like, oh,
and that's a big jump from lentil to blueberry. Yes,
it could also be a pearl or a mini marshall,
a peanut, M and M.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Really, it's ten to fourteen millimeters, so I mean that's
more than a centimeter now, so that's to me, that's
substantial point something there.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So what are those sea monkeys they start to grow?
It was like that, which is ironically what it also
looks like. What is happening to them? What have they
grown in the last week?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So developmentally, your baby's brain is now even more formed.
It continues a whole of pregnancy, so one of the
th we see lots of milestones in other areas of
the baby, but its brain actually is from wadigo. So
that's why it's important from a protective thing with alcohol
and things like that in pregnancy to start thinking really
closely now about what you're taking in. A little one's
face is now more defined. So it's even got lenses
in its eyes that are starting to develop, which is
(01:51):
nuts considering it's it's fairly early in pregnancy that it doesn't
need to see for quite a while. And the little
one's liver is now starting to make some red blood cells.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's interesting what they actually start to develop first, like
a brain, little nubs, nostrils, Is this correct that? Like
respiratory is one of the last things that they develop.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To be at a qu developed.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So the whole system starts to develop, but the alvoli,
which is a little air sax inside the lungs of
what you need to sustain that oxygen exchange, that's very,
very late. So that's why pre term babies really struggle
with breathing. And we often offer steroids for babies under
thirty four weeks because they actually have what's called nos
and facts affectant, which is basically a little it's a
product that props open the alveola to help them breathe.
(02:32):
So obviously at this gestation, guys, unfortunately there is no
way your little one.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Would survive outside of you.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But it is a discussion as we get through these
episodes that we will talk a little bit more about.
But yes, amazing that all these structures are already developing
so early in pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What happening? What's happening to me?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And in terms of what's happening to us, I'll go first,
I've started vomiting. At week seven, I did start vomiting.
And it's always by definition morning sickness. I was the
absolute definition of morning sickness. It was in the morning,
it was before eating. Yeah, I would wake up. I
wasn't quite fatigued. Oh that, you know, jet lag feeling.
We spoke about it. I was waking up at like
(03:08):
three am, very needing to eat, and then that's when
i'd vomit and sort of have like interimittent having to
have toast, and then I'd vomit and sort of do that,
and then I'd push through the first or three hours of.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
The morning and then I could function.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Ish ish, I.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Think it's the big word. Yeah, And again, so much
variation in pregnancy. We have some women who even at
this stage, have to start seeing their doctor more frequently
because they can't keep anything down. And so while we say,
and I know everyone said this before, but while we
say morning sickness, we definitely have people that have all
day sickness, all night sickness, unable to cope with anything, sickness.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And it's real.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And so I think until you've experienced it, it's very
well to go, oh, yeah, she's pregnant, But no, for
some women, it is unbelievably debilitating and unfortunately only gets worse. So, yes,
what did you do to help through that couple of weeks?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
At this stage, it always kind of knew I hadn't
gone to a dark place about it, which we'll get
to when it's It's not that it was exciting, it
was like, oh, this is the thing that you see
in the movies. It was definitely worse than I thought
it was going to be in terms of it was
only vomiting in the morning, but the nausea was all day.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
And wretching as well. Like, sorry, someone's pregnant, listening to
that probably just make them ratch.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I even list the things that made me ratch that
could make people feel sick.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
What worked? Twisties? Twisties?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know, whatever you need right now.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Is do it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, But I do want to talk about the guilt
of what you're putting in your body when you are
feeling nauseous, because we hear all these things about having
folate and making sure you're having this vitamin and this
fidamin this vitamin, but then all you're able to eat,
and at time of recording, I'm twenty eight weeks and
I'm still a lot of veggiemite and cheese on toast.
But there is a lot of guilt about what you're
(04:50):
able to put into your body. Do you have any
helpful tips for women who might be feeling guilty, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Feel guilty, and it's very eating and I know it's
easier said than done, but ultimately this point of time,
it's a survival. And like we say, it's not always
going to be like this. We know that sometimes for
some women it is the whole pregnancy of my mum unfortunately,
but you know she was growing in an Olympian so
you know.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
She had to kind of little legs there to show she.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Lost eleven kilos in pregnancy. She was that sick with
it so and I always remember her complaining about it.
When I was pregnant, I didn't have it as bad
that hum No, and then when I had the twins
it was shocking. So the guilt has to be removed
because you can't. You can only do what you're doing,
and there's enough to worry about just getting up in
the day and not vomiting or finding ways obviously there
we're going to go through the medical ways to help
with vomiting. There's lots of things, So I think the
(05:32):
key there is reach out. If your noise is so
bad that you're not coping with daily life, it's time
to see your GP because there is actually things we
can do and by the time you wait till thirteen
or fourteen weeks, when it's out of control, You've lost weight,
you're feeling sick, you're dehydrated.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's not going to hurt the baby.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
By the way, guys, I'm just going to put that
in straight away because we always have women saying, well,
I have an eaten for you know three months, have
I hurt my baby?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, you haven't. The little parasites they will steal everything
from you. They'll steal your coups in.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, they're taking it from you. Is that why some
women like lose their teeth because they've stripped.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The cows everything.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
They're vitamin D they strip out your stiff at your
iron levels.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So even if you're eating.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Adequate red meat, you will still likely have lower iron
in pregnancy. But that's what they're there for, and that's
why you can be reassured that if you're eating twisties
for lunch, so be it, because oultimately you need to
eat something that's going to reduce your nauture and hopefully
by the way, I'm a big believer in bananas, so
I might be in Australian Banana's ambassador, so I apologize
the throwing of them, they'll love me. But it's actually
(06:26):
more than that. They've got great FOL eight levels, they've
got great B six levels, they've got good levels of
other nutrients and vitamins to actually allow you. So I
actually think it's almost the perfect natural remedy for nausea,
but also has some good support, great fiber and vitamin
C and things to actually make sure you're supporting yourself.
So you do your best you can, you put in
the bits of the food when you can, and other
times you just need.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
To give yourself a break.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Is this normal?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Normal? I have a funny one.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
This one great.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, you don't have to be honest and say if
it happened to you. But your nipples change color often
around this time in pregnancy, and it's interesting and that's
mainly mainly because you have an increase in again in
those hormones of pregnancy, progesterone and esugen, but they actually
also affect your melotone and your melanin. Not melotone that's
what makes you sleep. You need some of that too,
your melanin production, which is the pigment making hormone responsible
(07:11):
for skin color, and so your melanosites live all over
your body, but they're concentrated in places like in nipples
and eventually a linear albur if you get the cu
the lineup and dagger tummy, and so quite often people
say around this time they noticed dark nipples.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Mine didn't go dark, they started changing shape.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, okay, maybe it was a few weeks later, But
how I've described them is just like they just look
keen for.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Headlights.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, we will already be starting to have fullness in
your breasts because they all have that breast tissue starting
at some point to get ready to obviously sustain pregnancy.
We're also laying down more fat already, guys, so we
do have that. You know, in early pregnancy, even though
the baby's still small, you are starting into on a
little bit of weight, and that's largely for if you
do have nausea and things like that, you will sustain
and be able to use the fat stores you've got
(07:54):
for baby and for protection around whether the growing pregnancy
will be around your abdomen.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Is this where you can also get a bit of
water retention because I noticed, like I wasn't drinking. So
sometimes when you're fake, like if you had a big weekend,
your face is inflated. I did notice my face was
like a bit more swollen, just more water retention, and
it felt like is that normal?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You can thank the progesterone again for that. Everything.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's called the laxicity hormone because everything gets more relaxed,
and we'll talk about Varico's veins and things like that
in coming episodes, but it is the one that responsible
for your hips opening. Everything sort of relaxing and dropping down,
including the walls in your vessels and then lik fluid
out a bit more.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, Unfortunately, bloating in your tummy and everywhere is something
that you will likely contend with in pregnancy, even now
at seven weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Okay, what can we do? What's something on the to
do list? What are some practical things apart from twisties?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
This is the time we need to have definitely done
your blood tests by so. I know we've mentioned it before,
but now it's time you should have had your dating scan.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I have had my dating scan.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I went to We talked about it in a previous episode,
going to a women's specific ultrasound, which everyone recommended. Along
the way, like I was seeing a nutrition as she
was like, they're the best in the business I was
seeing my GP. She's like, everyone goes there, even the
gynecologists and obstetricians.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
They go there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And when I went in, I can see why that
was because they just were so good at taking you
through the steps. They knew the anxiety that each new
parent would have and how to cross those things off
the list.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So I walked in, they said, we.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Might not see the flicker of the heartbeat, we might
not see this, it could be too small, but what
I'm looking for is this. And then she basically put
the wand on me and was like, Okay, I can
see that. I can't remember if she said fetus, but
she's said I.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Can see it. There's just one.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, this is important.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
We're going to have a good scan.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And then that was the first ten seconds of the
appointment and then you just get to like relax. And
one thing I did want to ask is if you
spend a bit too much time online. There is some
commentary about internal versus external ultrasounds and people saying you
can say no to an internal, which I didn't say
no to it because I think they're the medical professionals
(09:59):
and they are checking, so they're checking for your cervix,
making sure it's closed and long, that you're not going
to have pre term labor is. Any of those tests
can be done externally.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The reason we do internal scans is often if we
can't see enough externally. So at twenty weeks, I would
strongly recommend an internal exam. Okay, so that's a few
weeks away, but that is when the cervix can really
be picked up. At this point, your cervix is likely
to be long and closed. So at eight weeks gestation,
if they can see everything they need trans abdominantly maybe
not as important, but again, when it's external, they can't
(10:32):
really closely. I'm using my fingers now to show really
closely show the crown rump length, and that's what we
want to know.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
How old is this little baby?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Because would you believe all babies at this gestation are
the same size. So it's not until like week twenty
and onwards that we actually start seeing some variation between
babies and when we can look for things like growth
restriction and things like that, so it is a more
accurate internal exam. I certainly had it because I'm like, well,
it doesn't bother me, you know, it's just and it's
not uncomfortable guys. I mean some people might say, you know,
if you've got faginismus or any problems with your pelvic floor,
you might might want to avoid it. But they put
(11:01):
a little condom over the like it basically looks like
a skinny tube. They gently put it against the vagina
and then they push it inside, so it's very gentle.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Worth better than a peraps me like, I wouldn't even
put it in the same category.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, because I don't think you're going up that far.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, at the old time probaty needs to go to
the point where they can actually see the pregnancy. So
it goes in very gently, it comes out the same
and you do get very good, robust pictures of your baby.
But I can tell you if you go to one of
those great old sound companies, if they feel like they
need it, they'll do it. They won't do it unless
they they think it's required. But I think it's important
to why do we have a dating scan? So firstly, yes,
is the pregnancy viable? Is there any the concerns we
need to see? Is there one baby or as there more?
(11:37):
I can tell you when I found out I had
two heartbeats.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It was a bit of a shock at your dating
dating the two sacks as well, Grace.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I'm gonna be honest, I actually scanned myself before and
kind of already recognize it was possible, but they confirmed their.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, don't do that at home. Don't do that at home.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
In fact, on that note, no dopless please, guys. Okay,
we will talk about it again later. So the other
reason to do it is we're not thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
About it yet.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But if at some point in your pregnancy we need
to birth your baby early, you need to know what
gestation it is, because there's if we're going to talk
about all the embryological changes as your baby grows through
to term, which is when you're roughly between over thirty
seven weeks, but if there's a chance your baby comes early,
or for example, even more importantly, around that viability age,
which is twenty three weeks in pregnancy, it's really important
(12:21):
to know if you're twenty two weeks and four days
or twenty three weeks in four days. And so that's
why that to ultrasound is essential.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Does it matter when there's a sliding scale of two
days either side.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, so when you're dating your pregnancy, if you have
a really regular period, we actually still use your your
cycle rather than the ultrasound unless there's a variation of
more than three days. So if there's a huge variation
or someone has any regular cycle, we'll use the dating scan,
but we like them to kind of marry up. So
it's nice to know when was your LMP your last
mental period and does it correspond on is it the
(12:52):
same as your dating scan within two to three days.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think it's also important to say in the dating
scan they can see a heartbeat flicker, but they never
you can't hear it.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You don't expect to hear it, which was good.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They told me that sort of first stump that you're
not going to get that moment of hearing that, but
not for a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
No, we don't want to because it's it's ULTRASI it's
very safe in pregnancy, but there's certain wave forms and
things that you don't want to use until later in pregnancy.
So it's actually you can see it and visually see it,
and so they don't want to. Yeah, that's way outside
the scope of this and I'm still learning it to
be honest. As a trainee, I've been wonderfully lucky to
have done an ultrasound course already, but it's something that's
not safe to do at that point in pregnancy, which
is why we don't do.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It for the talkkit this week. This is a toolkit
that was given to me by other people, and I
just I think I want to bring it up because
it didn't work. So people will also tell you it's ginger.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, it does work a little bit. It's about it's
all those old wives tales.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Though, yeah, I don't know. I've got a buye to
be quick ginger.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Really, I think I thought it worked because I was
taking something and now it's probably a what's it called?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Where now I see ginger.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And you hate it? It's a version again.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Now I have an aversion to ginger because of this stage.
If everyone being like, that'll fix you, like ginger, Tea's
have the pregnancy team with the ginger yea.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I mean anecdotally, it's one of those what's in science?
What's the science behind it? Some science? But look, I
think we need to dedicate an episode to ginger, not
ginger grace, goodness, to what you can do so lots
and lots of naturopathic over the counter stuff, but there's
also stuff medically that are required that we can give
you to really really change that platform.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah great.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
We hope you enjoyed this episode of Hello Bump. We
have so many episodes of this series filled with tips
and stories from women and experts who've been through it
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Speaker 3 (14:44):
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Speaker 3 (14:54):
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Speaker 1 (14:58):
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Speaker 2 (14:59):
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