June 9, 2024 • 23 mins
Ben Hurley joins Joel Harrison to go over the Warriors 42-12 win over the Cowboys and question how we fit SJ back in the team this week (0:00)...
Then recap the 'Stonka Of The Round' between the Panthers & Sea Eagles (13.54) before a deep dive into the multiple blowouts in the weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome along to the Mad Monday Podcast, brought to you
by four and twenty pis. It's the perfect at home
snack for watching rugby league. You got me here the
Pantsman Joel Harrison and I'm joined with Ben Hurley.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome Ben.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How's it going great mate?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
What a round of rugby league? You can definitely tell
it was post Origin. There was some big margins, but
none more so than the It was beating the Cows.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, no, it was a great time.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I was lucky enough to join Die in the Export
B studio to commentate the game on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I feel like it was probably the most the most
well rounded Warriors performance of the yesfr.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, incredible. We talked about it. I commentated that Origin
game one and the Cowboys had more players involved in
Origin than any other single club. So I think we
counted seven because it was as a couple and obviously
there's most of them for the Maroons, but a couple
for the Blues as well. So most of those players
(01:08):
backed up, some of them coming off the bench. But
the Cows, even though they look great on paper, they
haven't had the best season so far anyway, and with
half their team, more than half their team playing having
played a very physical game of rugby league four days before.
They definitely showed signs of fatigue. And you don't see
(01:31):
a team like that, you know, lose by thirty points
very often.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, especially at home in North Queensland, which is normally
a pretty tough trip. I feel like Ruben Cotter, he's
normally one of the biggest impact of their team as well.
He made thirty two tackles in the first half and
after playing a grueling Origin game as well.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It would be pretty tough for that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And then your likes of Val Holmes dead and they
didn't really fire to the Warriors. We were lucky for
that one. What did you reckon of, like Dylan Walker
moving into the Star lineup instead of Toho Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, really interesting. I feel like I love to who Harris.
He is the mighty taught to and I won't have
a bad word said about him, but he's definitely slower
off the mark than he used to be. He gets
big post contact meters, but I yeah, I guess they're
just easing him back in right after his injury. And
Dylan Walker is he's just the fix it man. He
(02:25):
just goes wherever you need him.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
He was so good and I think it was for
Mitch Barnett's try. We're talking about it off here as well.
That was your your punt of the week last week
and it brought home about three hundred bucks to the
ACC kiddy. But yeah, just the way he straightens up
the ball in the middle, fed it to Marty Martin.
Then yeah, Martin just put Bunnett over it. It was
good to see Walker plane like that.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, it was beautiful. And let's talk about Tomati Martin too,
because I think we saw the best of him finally
in the Warriors Jersey. He's just such a solid half.
He's not flashy, but he you don't what he's going
to do. And I think sometimes with SJ, you kind
of know he's not going to run at the line
this year. He did last year. This year he's had
(03:07):
that niggling injury. He's currently out with that injury. So
it does become a little bit predictable that he is
just gonna boot downfield or distribute. But with Tomighty, he
runs at the line, and so it just gives it
that little bit of extra jeopardy every time he's got the.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Ball in his hand.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's crazy because when Tomighty Martin has come to the
Warriors for the last two years, he's sort of been
a bit injury prone and kind of been behind Metcalf.
He was good at started last year and he hasn't
really shown them in his last three weeks. He's almost
been like the standout seven and the competition and then Johnson,
I think it's supposed to be back this week after
his peck injury. So would you bring him back into
(03:43):
the LINEU would you leave him the bench?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
No? I think you bring him back in and put
Tomighty back to Sex because unfortunately, and I'm a massive
fan of the man, but Chanel Harris Devita did not
have the best game obviously. He was ten in the
bin for arguably the most a schoolboy kind of childish
ball throw that Chad Townsend didn't even notice and he
(04:08):
got ten in the bin for it. The ball literally
hit him in the back of the head and he
didn't turn around, didn't say anything, and he gets ten
in the bin for it. But yeah, I mean, looking
at his super coach points, he played most of that
game and scored I think twenty six at super coach points,
So not a not a great full start for his
first start in a Warriors jersey in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, he was probably one of the only Warriors who
didn't almost perform to their best ability in the weekend
as well. It was so good to see across the
park everyone was doing it. I feel like we're be
needs to find a way that he can get to
mighty in there at Sex, but also still give him
a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
More management as well. D you can, that's a doable thing.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I think probably what I hope is that given that
he's in some really good form, that Sean and him
will share that management bit better and it's not just
down to s J on the last play, you know,
on the fifth tackle every time that it could go
to either one because Tomoighty's kicking game pretty great as well.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Die was having a field day on the commentary on
the weekend with Chad Towns and he's saying he's the
Chris Lily of the NRL. Well, it seems like there's
a bit of bad blood between him and the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It really does, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
There.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I mean, he is an ex Warrior for those he
even caught up, but you know, I always vote Chadtowns
in at the Warriors. I thought he gave it his best,
and then he moved away and he became I think
one year he was the most penalized player in the
competition when he went to the Did he go straight
to the Cows or did he go somewhere else?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
First?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Did you go to the Sharks?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And then he came back to the Warriors and then
he went to the Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
All right, so well, yeah, you know, he's probably just
getting a little bit older now. He definitely looks reader
in the face and angrier than he used to be.
He has at his discipline a little bit. But yeah,
it did seem a little bit of niggle there between them,
and I wonder if in particularly some of the older
Warrior players that would have been there while he was there,
(06:10):
like Marcelo Montoya.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, Montoya was fired up. I know he has.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
He had an incident a few years ago against the
Cowboys as well that led to a bit of a
band so I think there's a bit of bad blood
between him and the Cowboys as well. So yeah, he
was fired up, and when you put he could have
got sent off for that push on Chad Townsend as
well a Montoya.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, that's right. Look, I'm a Cowboys fan that they
are my other team. I love watching them play. They
are a little bit like the Warriors, and that they
are massively up and down, and you know, particularly this year,
they're almost heavy identical season. So yeah, I'm not sure
what the what the water under the bridge is there,
(06:52):
but look, forty two points to twelve, what a performance.
Just tries galore and we should probably talk about the
back back.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh yes, that was vintage DWZ there. When I was commentating,
I said it was Ben barber ESQ. But it was
actually like Greg Anglis in two thousand and eight heading
it back to Gasnia. Probably one of the best tries
I've seen in a long time, especially from the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, and it was I love just the bare back
was so casual, like he just thought he'd roll the dice.
I might as we have a little swipe at this
and willow and behold.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And his foot was like centimeters away from the white line.
I know they train, especially as a winger, he trains
to stay in the field of playing stuff, but surely
there was some element of a fluke there as well.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I mean, you're gonna have a little bit of luck
the way the baldest yet popped up at the end
on that last bounce. But you know what, you're going
to take the opportunities. And the Warriors certainly have had
this year of bad luck over the years, so let's
take them. So currently the Warriors six wins, six losses
and a drawer. You can't have more of an even
split of a season than that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, and especially after was it four or five losses
in a row and now we've turned it into three
wins in a bye. So we're sitting at ninth on
the table, one point outside of that eight. The eight
is pretty it's pretty even though at the moment it
goes up to sixteen points with the Ruses and six
and then storm at the top with the Sharks on
twenty two points.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So the Warriors a.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Few more wins away, we could easily cement ourself in
the top eight for the season.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, absolutely, and you just kind of you kind of
don't want to be seventh or eighth. I mean, I'm
not sure if we can get higher than that. I
think we'd have to go on a hell of a
run now, but you know seventh and eighth. If you're
losing that, you know you've got to play. It will
be Cranala or Brisbane or something in the Storm in
that first round of the finals and you're basically gone.
Like I don't think anyone. I mean, the Warriors made
(08:47):
the Grand Final from eighth once, but that was a
long time ago.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, there was a different the setup this year. It
really favors the top four teams. We we do have
kind of an interesting draw coming up. We gave the Storm, Titans,
Broncos and Builder. Obviously Storm and Broncos at home, probably
two of the hardest teams of the competition.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah. Absolutely, And but just remember we almost beat the
Storm earlier this year and that was my sliding doors moment.
But since since I mentioned that sliding doors moment, we've
won every game. So hope, let's hope we just can
you know, contain Zavier Coats pulling off America in the
last minute and and and bag two points against the Storm, who,
(09:30):
by the way, looked very good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, that was it was a good game yesterday. They
they kind of loot the Nights back in there at
the end. I think without Cameron Munster. They're definitely, definitely beatable,
but they're still the classic Storm.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Craig Bellamy, he.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Looked depressed after a win after the game yesterday. It
was as a vintage Craig Bellamy moved there.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, they just look like they can score from anywhere
and and it's massively dangerous.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
There's one key point that's been talked about quite a
lot in all the Warriors fan pages, that moment when
Artis come back, comes back, where do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
He's in a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Gus interesting, isn't it. I mean, do you put him?
I mean, when we had our hearts problems and charms
went to sex like there was Actually he did pretty
well there and immediately I thought, well, you know, if
we're so bad injuries, when Artis comes back, then he
goes straight into fallback.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, otherwise he just a Rocko Berry played so well
on the weekend, like such a good defensive center now,
so I don't know. And Adam Pompey's playing well and
kicking really well as well. So yeah, it's I mean,
do you have a back on the bench, like it
almost never happens anymore, but Artie is coming off the
(10:45):
bench as an impact player is a pretty awesome luxury
to have.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, I feel like probably over the weekend it was
the best bench rotation that Webi's done all season as well,
because you had toahu coming on played about sixty minutes.
Cape well played forty I think, but it was probably
some of his best minutes of the season. To Vanga
only played twenty eight minutes, but he was he was
clinical and then lassic for the last twenty three. So
I don't know, it feels like it's a good problem
(11:10):
for Weaby to have.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I mean Montoya had a couple of rough games. He
even dropped out of the side for a game, but
I think he's played pretty well since then. So for
a little while there, I was thinking maybe maybe just
put Antis on the wing and and dropped Montoya, but
I don't think you can at the moment.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, And like he was safe under the high ball
kind of cut their era out of the game.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Which was sort of hindering him at the start of
the season.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So I don't know, it's yeah, i'd be disappointed Montoya
got dropped as well.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Are the Blues still in beck and like are they
still in Super Rugby? Like Yeah, just put him on loan,
so back to rugby union for a week.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It seems weird because the Blues are kind of thriving
at the moment as well when he's he's dropped out
of the system.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I just I hate this.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I hate talking anything but wonderful things about Roger two
Vas this year.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
He's such a good player.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Pretty much every game this season when he's played, he's
made a massive impact as well. It's just been he's
been unlucky.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, I think he's kind of forgotten how to pass.
He's obviously got the best feet in the game, but
I'd like to see him pass a little bit more.
And yeah, he's very very solid defender, but yeah, a
little bit more distribution from him. If if I'm going
to you know, if I have to have a critical
eye on it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, yeah, Oh well, these are problems that Andrew WIBs
is going to run into in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Anything else from you and the Warriors over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
No, that's that's me just it just gives you great confidence.
And I know they were a tired side, but you know,
you're still you're still gonna win. And it wasn't close
and as you say it was up in Townsville where
it was, I know, probably early thirty degrees and you know,
place like towns will winter.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, and it was full of Bogans in the
crowd as well. There's a couple of times one of
the guys was standing real close to the studio, sorry,
the stadium, Mike, so we get to hear a lot
of his calls and he was not a big gene
pulled up in Townsville.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
This're saying, no, no, Yeah. I love the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'd like to see them play one day at home,
but hopefully it's one of those games where it's not
in Townsville. Although that stadium looks pretty cold, I got
to say it does.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It reminds me of sort of like an Amy Park
or Kombank Stadium in Sydney. We need one of those
over here in New Zealand. But that's a discussion for
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This week we're going with the Penrith Panthers playing at home.
They took down the Seagulls thirty two to twenty two,
and it was a weird game. I've never seen a
game with his two first half hat tricks. Did you
catch much of a ben?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I did, actually tries galore and and what was amazing
about it? I think every single try was scored by
a winger. So Tommy Telo got four, Brian Or got three,
Sania Taruba got two. He also had a shocka defensively
in the first half of hints why Tommy Telo got four?
But yeah, unbelievable. Every single every single try was scored
(14:41):
was scored out wide, so they've obviously got some very
good wingers that are good at attack and not defense.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, even sub He scored a consolation try there for
Manly and it was an awesome try, like twinkled Tod
down the sideline somehow found a bit of space. But yeah,
Tommy Tallao, he was kind of an average player last
year at best at the Tigers. Now he's sort of
made a revival.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, I think everyone becomes an average player when they
go to the Tigers. I fell for Benji just to
get off check a little bit, because man, every week
he's going to go and defend his team at that
press conference, and I think he's a naturally quite an
optimistic guy, and it's difficult when every single week you're
(15:27):
having a lost pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
There's all these rumors about Lachlan Galvin as well, like
the one sort of shining light coming out of the
Tigers this season. Apparently he's saying he wanted an early
release in the changing rooms and they've denied it. Now
they've got a meeting the hit of the Tigers, who's
a meeting with his mum and dad this week because
he's only eighteen of course.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Oh right, Yeah, look what I've learned about at the
NRL is generally the rumors are true. Yeah, but no,
this is a great a great game of rugby league
on a Sunday afternoon, a real Sydney derby. People who
don't know the kind of history of the NRL may
not know that Manly was sort of like the Melbourne
(16:05):
Storm when they first came into the competition. They came,
you know, they come from the wealthy part of Sydney
in the Northern Beaches, and they just came in with
a lot of money and poached players from all sorts
of other clubs. And that was when the competition was
only semi professional. So and Penrith very much West Sydney,
(16:25):
you know, very much a working class, you know, sort
of traditional rugby league place, and so there's some real
feeling in this game. They got out to a lead.
It probably looks closer than it was on the score
on the scoreboard because many sort of came back at them.
They never went away. But I don't think Penrith was
ever all that worried.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, it was a clinical Penrith performance as well. I
saw thirty seven out of thirty eight sets completed from
the game, and the second half they didn't drop a
ball but you could tell there was feeling in there
because Jerome Lay there was one time where he shoved
down the young Travoyevitch as well Berbo. He didn't have
his brothers to back him up, but he was just
like it was a massive grub move face into the dirt.
(17:07):
And then Luke Brooks kind of cost Manly a try
as well by backing him up, coloring Leuey. But yeah,
it was a great game and Penrith they seemed to
be once again proving to be the team to beat
in the competition.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, I mean there's a pretty clear top four, isn't there.
But I wanted to give a shout out though to
Daily Cherry Evans, who played a really good game despite
the loss, after having a mammoth game for Queensland in
the first staut of Origin.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So you know, I know it's.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
He's a half and it's not quite as physical as
being a front railer or even a fullback, you know,
but the guy's thirty five years old and has played
two fantastic games in a week.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There was a classic moment as well when he didn't
kick the ball off the mark, so the referee gave
Tom the Mark, he kicked it out and then three
times he moved about eight meters forward while kicking the ball.
It was I saw it up in the n Our
Instagram as well. It's a good moment. But Reuben Garrick's
kicking there was a couple of clips as well up there.
They were obviously tough kicks because they were all from
(18:09):
the wing and you could just hear the Penrith Bogans
giving him a massive spray and then it kind of
won them the game.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Penrith, Yeah, I guess it did, actually didn't it. Yeah,
you know, I love the beautiful scar faced reubend Garrett,
but he was I think they got in his head,
the crowd.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And another good player from the game as well was
Dane Lourie, who has come over from the Tigers. It
was one of the best players for the Tigers last
year and I think he bet Dylan Edwards record for
running meters this year at fullback. Took twenty five carries
for like two hundred and seventy meters, had a Mammoth
supercoach game as well of anyone's following along with that.
So yeah, he looks like definitely a first grade prayer there,
(18:50):
Dan Lowry.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, but with that mustache, she's not anywhere near a school.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And besides that game, there was
pretty much blowouts for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Did you catch much of the much of the action?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, bits and pieces. I think the Bunnies will be
very happy with their blowout because they're not obviously. Was
that their first win?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I think that's his second win in a row.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah, right right, Yes, Well Latrell is well and truly
bad so that you know, talk about a single player team,
but you know, the Bunnies without Latrell is well, it's
not worth talking about really. But yeah, he had a
huge game, one hundred and fifty super coach points, so yeah,
big meters and big presence.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You'd have to assume that he will be back in
Origin for game two as well, probably replacing Sole.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh mate.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
If Mage knows anything about the game of rugby league,
he needs to make wholesale changes and put back in
his game breakers.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, who else do you reckon the game breakers to
bring in?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Do you know what I've said this before, I'll say
it again, Scott Drinkwater. I I don't know where, but
I bring him into the side.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, he is. He's a good player. He's sure and
pockets against the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
He was lethal.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Well, he ran well, he ran eighty meters like he's
got expector. And I just think that that Origin game
by the Blues, that's what it lacked. It lacked any
kind of you know, spark.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And if there were any doubts of Zach Lomac's getting
dropped as well, he's probably he had a great game,
to be fair, in his Origin debut. But he scored
thirty two points two nights after playing his first of
a game of Origin. I think it was a Dragon's
record as well for the most points ever scored in
a game.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Look, I don't know what it is about him, but
he rubs everybody up the wrong way. No, I don't
think he's anyone's favorite player, but the effect remains he's
actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And then probably the last point of the round for
me was the Sharks going over to the Broncos and
what was pretty much like a top of the table
clash game. No Nico Hines trindle back from his drink
driving allegedly cocaine abuse allegation. I don't know what it was,
but he looked like he was a great player, and
the Sharks looked like they're definitely still a team to
beat this year.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Absolutely, And obviously Broncos with a lot of players backing
up from Origin.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well, yeah, it was a good round.
Anything else to add from you for the rest of
the round.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
No, I this round generally happens at some point, this
type of round where it's just basically all blowouts, and
it is during this weird time. My only concern is
as a long term Warriors fan, this used to be
what happened every single season, was that we'd win through
the Origin period and then when you know that was over,
(21:47):
then things would go back to normal, being a bit
up and down. I just hope we can take confidence
from this time. And obviously we you know, fitness and
stuff looked great after the buye the week before.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
We just really looked we would look like a great team.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
So yeah, that's my only concern is I'm hoping this
isn't just a history repeating itself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, that is a's a good point and it will
be huge if we can take these good wins over
the last few weeks, take it back to Mount Smart
this weekend. It's Saturday, seven thirty. Keezy and Andni they're
going to be back from there. Feels like a two
week bender in Bali, and they'll be back commentating the
game on sky Sport nine, Skyports nine or sky Sports seven,
(22:29):
one of the two. And yeah, fingers cross the Warriors
can get up and make a good round.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, I'm going to Japan tomorrow. Oh, no, a week
so I'm gonna I don't know that how big the
NRL is in Japan, so I'll just be on a
dodgy VPN bouncing off a satellite via North Korea or
something to get the game.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
But I'll get it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You'll get it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, make sure you can probably even find a way
to get Keyesy and Mania calling calling the game over
there and join a few asas over there.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, well I think Keasy and I look they
have an e pray love tattoo mentioning lower back tattoos,
So looking forward to seeing that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, we'll enjoy your trip over to Japan. I'm sure
we'll see you back after that. And that was all
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Welcome along to the Mad Monday Podcast, brought to you
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Pantsman Joel Harrison and I'm joined with Ben Hurley.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome Ben.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How's it going great mate?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
What a round of rugby league? You can definitely tell
it was post Origin. There was some big margins, but
none more so than the It was beating the Cows.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, no, it was a great time.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I was lucky enough to join Die in the Export
B studio to commentate the game on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I feel like it was probably the most the most
well rounded Warriors performance of the yesfr.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, incredible. We talked about it. I commentated that Origin
game one and the Cowboys had more players involved in
Origin than any other single club. So I think we
counted seven because it was as a couple and obviously
there's most of them for the Maroons, but a couple
for the Blues as well. So most of those players
(01:08):
backed up, some of them coming off the bench. But
the Cows, even though they look great on paper, they
haven't had the best season so far anyway, and with
half their team, more than half their team playing having
played a very physical game of rugby league four days before.
They definitely showed signs of fatigue. And you don't see
(01:31):
a team like that, you know, lose by thirty points
very often.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, especially at home in North Queensland, which is normally
a pretty tough trip. I feel like Ruben Cotter, he's
normally one of the biggest impact of their team as well.
He made thirty two tackles in the first half and
after playing a grueling Origin game as well.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It would be pretty tough for that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And then your likes of Val Holmes dead and they
didn't really fire to the Warriors. We were lucky for
that one. What did you reckon of, like Dylan Walker
moving into the Star lineup instead of Toho Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, really interesting. I feel like I love to who Harris.
He is the mighty taught to and I won't have
a bad word said about him, but he's definitely slower
off the mark than he used to be. He gets
big post contact meters, but I yeah, I guess they're
just easing him back in right after his injury. And
Dylan Walker is he's just the fix it man. He
(02:25):
just goes wherever you need him.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
He was so good and I think it was for
Mitch Barnett's try. We're talking about it off here as well.
That was your your punt of the week last week
and it brought home about three hundred bucks to the
ACC kiddy. But yeah, just the way he straightens up
the ball in the middle, fed it to Marty Martin.
Then yeah, Martin just put Bunnett over it. It was
good to see Walker plane like that.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, it was beautiful. And let's talk about Tomati Martin too,
because I think we saw the best of him finally
in the Warriors Jersey. He's just such a solid half.
He's not flashy, but he you don't what he's going
to do. And I think sometimes with SJ, you kind
of know he's not going to run at the line
this year. He did last year. This year he's had
(03:07):
that niggling injury. He's currently out with that injury. So
it does become a little bit predictable that he is
just gonna boot downfield or distribute. But with Tomighty, he
runs at the line, and so it just gives it
that little bit of extra jeopardy every time he's got the.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Ball in his hand.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's crazy because when Tomighty Martin has come to the
Warriors for the last two years, he's sort of been
a bit injury prone and kind of been behind Metcalf.
He was good at started last year and he hasn't
really shown them in his last three weeks. He's almost
been like the standout seven and the competition and then Johnson,
I think it's supposed to be back this week after
his peck injury. So would you bring him back into
(03:43):
the LINEU would you leave him the bench?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
No? I think you bring him back in and put
Tomighty back to Sex because unfortunately, and I'm a massive
fan of the man, but Chanel Harris Devita did not
have the best game obviously. He was ten in the
bin for arguably the most a schoolboy kind of childish
ball throw that Chad Townsend didn't even notice and he
(04:08):
got ten in the bin for it. The ball literally
hit him in the back of the head and he
didn't turn around, didn't say anything, and he gets ten
in the bin for it. But yeah, I mean, looking
at his super coach points, he played most of that
game and scored I think twenty six at super coach points,
So not a not a great full start for his
first start in a Warriors jersey in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, he was probably one of the only Warriors who
didn't almost perform to their best ability in the weekend
as well. It was so good to see across the
park everyone was doing it. I feel like we're be
needs to find a way that he can get to
mighty in there at Sex, but also still give him
a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
More management as well. D you can, that's a doable thing.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I think probably what I hope is that given that
he's in some really good form, that Sean and him
will share that management bit better and it's not just
down to s J on the last play, you know,
on the fifth tackle every time that it could go
to either one because Tomoighty's kicking game pretty great as well.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Die was having a field day on the commentary on
the weekend with Chad Towns and he's saying he's the
Chris Lily of the NRL. Well, it seems like there's
a bit of bad blood between him and the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It really does, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
There.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I mean, he is an ex Warrior for those he
even caught up, but you know, I always vote Chadtowns
in at the Warriors. I thought he gave it his best,
and then he moved away and he became I think
one year he was the most penalized player in the
competition when he went to the Did he go straight
to the Cows or did he go somewhere else?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
First?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Did you go to the Sharks?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And then he came back to the Warriors and then
he went to the Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
All right, so well, yeah, you know, he's probably just
getting a little bit older now. He definitely looks reader
in the face and angrier than he used to be.
He has at his discipline a little bit. But yeah,
it did seem a little bit of niggle there between them,
and I wonder if in particularly some of the older
Warrior players that would have been there while he was there,
(06:10):
like Marcelo Montoya.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, Montoya was fired up. I know he has.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
He had an incident a few years ago against the
Cowboys as well that led to a bit of a
band so I think there's a bit of bad blood
between him and the Cowboys as well. So yeah, he
was fired up, and when you put he could have
got sent off for that push on Chad Townsend as
well a Montoya.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, that's right. Look, I'm a Cowboys fan that they
are my other team. I love watching them play. They
are a little bit like the Warriors, and that they
are massively up and down, and you know, particularly this year,
they're almost heavy identical season. So yeah, I'm not sure
what the what the water under the bridge is there,
(06:52):
but look, forty two points to twelve, what a performance.
Just tries galore and we should probably talk about the
back back.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh yes, that was vintage DWZ there. When I was commentating,
I said it was Ben barber ESQ. But it was
actually like Greg Anglis in two thousand and eight heading
it back to Gasnia. Probably one of the best tries
I've seen in a long time, especially from the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, and it was I love just the bare back
was so casual, like he just thought he'd roll the dice.
I might as we have a little swipe at this
and willow and behold.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And his foot was like centimeters away from the white line.
I know they train, especially as a winger, he trains
to stay in the field of playing stuff, but surely
there was some element of a fluke there as well.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I mean, you're gonna have a little bit of luck
the way the baldest yet popped up at the end
on that last bounce. But you know what, you're going
to take the opportunities. And the Warriors certainly have had
this year of bad luck over the years, so let's
take them. So currently the Warriors six wins, six losses
and a drawer. You can't have more of an even
split of a season than that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, and especially after was it four or five losses
in a row and now we've turned it into three
wins in a bye. So we're sitting at ninth on
the table, one point outside of that eight. The eight
is pretty it's pretty even though at the moment it
goes up to sixteen points with the Ruses and six
and then storm at the top with the Sharks on
twenty two points.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So the Warriors a.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Few more wins away, we could easily cement ourself in
the top eight for the season.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, absolutely, and you just kind of you kind of
don't want to be seventh or eighth. I mean, I'm
not sure if we can get higher than that. I
think we'd have to go on a hell of a
run now, but you know seventh and eighth. If you're
losing that, you know you've got to play. It will
be Cranala or Brisbane or something in the Storm in
that first round of the finals and you're basically gone.
Like I don't think anyone. I mean, the Warriors made
(08:47):
the Grand Final from eighth once, but that was a
long time ago.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, there was a different the setup this year. It
really favors the top four teams. We we do have
kind of an interesting draw coming up. We gave the Storm, Titans,
Broncos and Builder. Obviously Storm and Broncos at home, probably
two of the hardest teams of the competition.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah. Absolutely, And but just remember we almost beat the
Storm earlier this year and that was my sliding doors moment.
But since since I mentioned that sliding doors moment, we've
won every game. So hope, let's hope we just can
you know, contain Zavier Coats pulling off America in the
last minute and and and bag two points against the Storm, who,
(09:30):
by the way, looked very good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, that was it was a good game yesterday. They
they kind of loot the Nights back in there at
the end. I think without Cameron Munster. They're definitely, definitely beatable,
but they're still the classic Storm.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Craig Bellamy, he.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Looked depressed after a win after the game yesterday. It
was as a vintage Craig Bellamy moved there.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, they just look like they can score from anywhere
and and it's massively dangerous.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
There's one key point that's been talked about quite a
lot in all the Warriors fan pages, that moment when
Artis come back, comes back, where do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
He's in a.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Gus interesting, isn't it. I mean, do you put him?
I mean, when we had our hearts problems and charms
went to sex like there was Actually he did pretty
well there and immediately I thought, well, you know, if
we're so bad injuries, when Artis comes back, then he
goes straight into fallback.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, otherwise he just a Rocko Berry played so well
on the weekend, like such a good defensive center now,
so I don't know. And Adam Pompey's playing well and
kicking really well as well. So yeah, it's I mean,
do you have a back on the bench, like it
almost never happens anymore, but Artie is coming off the
(10:45):
bench as an impact player is a pretty awesome luxury
to have.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, I feel like probably over the weekend it was
the best bench rotation that Webi's done all season as well,
because you had toahu coming on played about sixty minutes.
Cape well played forty I think, but it was probably
some of his best minutes of the season. To Vanga
only played twenty eight minutes, but he was he was
clinical and then lassic for the last twenty three. So
I don't know, it feels like it's a good problem
(11:10):
for Weaby to have.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I mean Montoya had a couple of rough games. He
even dropped out of the side for a game, but
I think he's played pretty well since then. So for
a little while there, I was thinking maybe maybe just
put Antis on the wing and and dropped Montoya, but
I don't think you can at the moment.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, And like he was safe under the high ball
kind of cut their era out of the game.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Which was sort of hindering him at the start of
the season.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So I don't know, it's yeah, i'd be disappointed Montoya
got dropped as well.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Are the Blues still in beck and like are they
still in Super Rugby? Like Yeah, just put him on loan,
so back to rugby union for a week.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It seems weird because the Blues are kind of thriving
at the moment as well when he's he's dropped out
of the system.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I just I hate this.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I hate talking anything but wonderful things about Roger two
Vas this year.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
He's such a good player.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Pretty much every game this season when he's played, he's
made a massive impact as well. It's just been he's
been unlucky.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, I think he's kind of forgotten how to pass.
He's obviously got the best feet in the game, but
I'd like to see him pass a little bit more.
And yeah, he's very very solid defender, but yeah, a
little bit more distribution from him. If if I'm going
to you know, if I have to have a critical
eye on it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, yeah, Oh well, these are problems that Andrew WIBs
is going to run into in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Anything else from you and the Warriors over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
No, that's that's me just it just gives you great confidence.
And I know they were a tired side, but you know,
you're still you're still gonna win. And it wasn't close
and as you say it was up in Townsville where
it was, I know, probably early thirty degrees and you know,
place like towns will winter.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, and it was full of Bogans in the
crowd as well. There's a couple of times one of
the guys was standing real close to the studio, sorry,
the stadium, Mike, so we get to hear a lot
of his calls and he was not a big gene
pulled up in Townsville.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
This're saying, no, no, Yeah. I love the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'd like to see them play one day at home,
but hopefully it's one of those games where it's not
in Townsville. Although that stadium looks pretty cold, I got
to say it does.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It reminds me of sort of like an Amy Park
or Kombank Stadium in Sydney. We need one of those
over here in New Zealand. But that's a discussion for
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This week we're going with the Penrith Panthers playing at home.
They took down the Seagulls thirty two to twenty two,
and it was a weird game. I've never seen a
game with his two first half hat tricks. Did you
catch much of a ben?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I did, actually tries galore and and what was amazing
about it? I think every single try was scored by
a winger. So Tommy Telo got four, Brian Or got three,
Sania Taruba got two. He also had a shocka defensively
in the first half of hints why Tommy Telo got four?
But yeah, unbelievable. Every single every single try was scored
(14:41):
was scored out wide, so they've obviously got some very
good wingers that are good at attack and not defense.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, even sub He scored a consolation try there for
Manly and it was an awesome try, like twinkled Tod
down the sideline somehow found a bit of space. But yeah,
Tommy Tallao, he was kind of an average player last
year at best at the Tigers. Now he's sort of
made a revival.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, I think everyone becomes an average player when they
go to the Tigers. I fell for Benji just to
get off check a little bit, because man, every week
he's going to go and defend his team at that
press conference, and I think he's a naturally quite an
optimistic guy, and it's difficult when every single week you're
(15:27):
having a lost pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
There's all these rumors about Lachlan Galvin as well, like
the one sort of shining light coming out of the
Tigers this season. Apparently he's saying he wanted an early
release in the changing rooms and they've denied it. Now
they've got a meeting the hit of the Tigers, who's
a meeting with his mum and dad this week because
he's only eighteen of course.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Oh right, Yeah, look what I've learned about at the
NRL is generally the rumors are true. Yeah, but no,
this is a great a great game of rugby league
on a Sunday afternoon, a real Sydney derby. People who
don't know the kind of history of the NRL may
not know that Manly was sort of like the Melbourne
(16:05):
Storm when they first came into the competition. They came,
you know, they come from the wealthy part of Sydney
in the Northern Beaches, and they just came in with
a lot of money and poached players from all sorts
of other clubs. And that was when the competition was
only semi professional. So and Penrith very much West Sydney,
(16:25):
you know, very much a working class, you know, sort
of traditional rugby league place, and so there's some real
feeling in this game. They got out to a lead.
It probably looks closer than it was on the score
on the scoreboard because many sort of came back at them.
They never went away. But I don't think Penrith was
ever all that worried.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, it was a clinical Penrith performance as well. I
saw thirty seven out of thirty eight sets completed from
the game, and the second half they didn't drop a
ball but you could tell there was feeling in there
because Jerome Lay there was one time where he shoved
down the young Travoyevitch as well Berbo. He didn't have
his brothers to back him up, but he was just
like it was a massive grub move face into the dirt.
(17:07):
And then Luke Brooks kind of cost Manly a try
as well by backing him up, coloring Leuey. But yeah,
it was a great game and Penrith they seemed to
be once again proving to be the team to beat
in the competition.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, I mean there's a pretty clear top four, isn't there.
But I wanted to give a shout out though to
Daily Cherry Evans, who played a really good game despite
the loss, after having a mammoth game for Queensland in
the first staut of Origin.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So you know, I know it's.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
He's a half and it's not quite as physical as
being a front railer or even a fullback, you know,
but the guy's thirty five years old and has played
two fantastic games in a week.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There was a classic moment as well when he didn't
kick the ball off the mark, so the referee gave
Tom the Mark, he kicked it out and then three
times he moved about eight meters forward while kicking the ball.
It was I saw it up in the n Our
Instagram as well. It's a good moment. But Reuben Garrick's
kicking there was a couple of clips as well up there.
They were obviously tough kicks because they were all from
(18:09):
the wing and you could just hear the Penrith Bogans
giving him a massive spray and then it kind of
won them the game.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Penrith, Yeah, I guess it did, actually didn't it. Yeah,
you know, I love the beautiful scar faced reubend Garrett,
but he was I think they got in his head,
the crowd.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And another good player from the game as well was
Dane Lourie, who has come over from the Tigers. It
was one of the best players for the Tigers last
year and I think he bet Dylan Edwards record for
running meters this year at fullback. Took twenty five carries
for like two hundred and seventy meters, had a Mammoth
supercoach game as well of anyone's following along with that.
So yeah, he looks like definitely a first grade prayer there,
(18:50):
Dan Lowry.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, but with that mustache, she's not anywhere near a school.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And besides that game, there was
pretty much blowouts for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Did you catch much of the much of the action?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, bits and pieces. I think the Bunnies will be
very happy with their blowout because they're not obviously. Was
that their first win?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I think that's his second win in a row.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah, right right, Yes, Well Latrell is well and truly
bad so that you know, talk about a single player team,
but you know, the Bunnies without Latrell is well, it's
not worth talking about really. But yeah, he had a
huge game, one hundred and fifty super coach points, so yeah,
big meters and big presence.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You'd have to assume that he will be back in
Origin for game two as well, probably replacing Sole.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh mate.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
If Mage knows anything about the game of rugby league,
he needs to make wholesale changes and put back in
his game breakers.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, who else do you reckon the game breakers to
bring in?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Do you know what I've said this before, I'll say
it again, Scott Drinkwater. I I don't know where, but
I bring him into the side.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, he is. He's a good player. He's sure and
pockets against the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
He was lethal.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Well, he ran well, he ran eighty meters like he's
got expector. And I just think that that Origin game
by the Blues, that's what it lacked. It lacked any
kind of you know, spark.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And if there were any doubts of Zach Lomac's getting
dropped as well, he's probably he had a great game,
to be fair, in his Origin debut. But he scored
thirty two points two nights after playing his first of
a game of Origin. I think it was a Dragon's
record as well for the most points ever scored in
a game.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Look, I don't know what it is about him, but
he rubs everybody up the wrong way. No, I don't
think he's anyone's favorite player, but the effect remains he's
actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And then probably the last point of the round for
me was the Sharks going over to the Broncos and
what was pretty much like a top of the table
clash game. No Nico Hines trindle back from his drink
driving allegedly cocaine abuse allegation. I don't know what it was,
but he looked like he was a great player, and
the Sharks looked like they're definitely still a team to
beat this year.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Absolutely, And obviously Broncos with a lot of players backing
up from Origin.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well, yeah, it was a good round.
Anything else to add from you for the rest of
the round.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
No, I this round generally happens at some point, this
type of round where it's just basically all blowouts, and
it is during this weird time. My only concern is
as a long term Warriors fan, this used to be
what happened every single season, was that we'd win through
the Origin period and then when you know that was over,
(21:47):
then things would go back to normal, being a bit
up and down. I just hope we can take confidence
from this time. And obviously we you know, fitness and
stuff looked great after the buye the week before.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
We just really looked we would look like a great team.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
So yeah, that's my only concern is I'm hoping this
isn't just a history repeating itself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, that is a's a good point and it will
be huge if we can take these good wins over
the last few weeks, take it back to Mount Smart
this weekend. It's Saturday, seven thirty. Keezy and Andni they're
going to be back from there. Feels like a two
week bender in Bali, and they'll be back commentating the
game on sky Sport nine, Skyports nine or sky Sports seven,
(22:29):
one of the two. And yeah, fingers cross the Warriors
can get up and make a good round.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, I'm going to Japan tomorrow. Oh, no, a week
so I'm gonna I don't know that how big the
NRL is in Japan, so I'll just be on a
dodgy VPN bouncing off a satellite via North Korea or
something to get the game.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
But I'll get it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You'll get it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, make sure you can probably even find a way
to get Keyesy and Mania calling calling the game over
there and join a few asas over there.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, well I think Keasy and I look they
have an e pray love tattoo mentioning lower back tattoos,
So looking forward to seeing that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, we'll enjoy your trip over to Japan. I'm sure
we'll see you back after that. And that was all
for us today and the Mad Monday have a good week. Upperwise,
he's not Australia,
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