June 27, 2024 • 28 mins
Chris Key joins Manaia Stewart for another episode of Mad Monday.
In this episode, the fellas chat about the State of O blowout (0:00) debate if they could beat a child Lebron James at basketball (6:11), before reviewing the Warriors team list for the game against the Broncos this weekend (7:46).
Then whip around the SuperCoach Buys/Sells/Holds (17:23) and unleash another 'TAB Good Hunch'.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
I go there and welcome back into the Mad Monday
podcast of a Thursday, but always brought to you by
four and twenty pis and perfectly at home snack for
watching State of Origin. It's stupid o'clock on a Wednesday,
thankfully a shortened week.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
My name is saw A Manayowi joining me.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Fresh off the back of State of Origin commentary is
adding Vanua Kezy Good afternoon, although to be honest, feels
a little bit more like morning, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Is it not eight am right now commentating a game
at ten on a Wednesday that finishes at midnight. And man,
I the last few games that we've done together, it
just they just blowout.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We're the jinks.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We are the Jinks And like I'm a new South
Wales fan. But and that was great to begin with, Yeah,
but there's no point watching the second half.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It really fizzled out, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It was just such a blowout and it was such
a comprehensive one I felt like, and I said it
throughout the commentary. The new South Wales defense was just smothering.
That was shutting down Queensland. Yeah, Queensland's options every single time, anytime.
DCE felt like he just had hit on a plate
the entire night, like he was just getting cut down
(01:13):
and her Man Reese Wald, we're just gonna waste these
two and then what else are they really going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And it worked.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It does work because DCE is pretty much the puppet
master of Queensland.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It has been for a while now.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, And to be honest, that smothering defense is not
something you really associate with New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's usually the other way around. So I maage Maguire's
taking them up into the Blue Mountains. Yeah, and he's
done something that's really and we mentioned that a lot
last night as well. I was just the dudes that
stood up with the dudes with.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
The question marks around them, Latrell Mitchell, Yeah, you know, Trail,
we don't know. He's overrated, he's he's a piece of
shit whatever. All the all the news around him is
always that yeah, comes and instantly makes everything so much better. Defensively,
was just shutting down Valentine Holmes the whole night.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It was a menace.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And Zach Lomax, who I hate, played great, kicked really well.
No dumb shit, Yeah, Flick passes. No, I think there
might have been one. There was one later in the game.
It was like, okay, fine, you can have that.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Mitch Moses came in and had four triasists, equal Freddy
Fitler for the most in Origin history in one game.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So it was just, yeah, the narrative of just those
three guys standing up massively. Angus Crichton as well, who
like question marks around him after he went to Amsterdam
and lost his mind.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Or whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yep, Liam Martin played well, see Selene, you played like
you'd heard me talking so much shit about him for
the last few months. Yeah, it's only because I want
Mitch Bunnett to be on there, and I felt like
Mitch Burnie should have had his spot.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, Mitch Bunnette is more of a like crighton, you know,
He's not a come off the bench guy. He is
a play the fulady and be solid, whereas you need
a little psycho like Spencer Lin you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Off the bench. And he was excellent last night.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He was Yeah, I mean he was stupid, oh yeah,
like running in starting fights, doing all sorts of stupid shit.
But the energy, the intensity, It's like when Zion Mo
who came on for us that one game, and yeah
got us back and form.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
He's a bit of that. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Best part about it is that we don't have a
dead rubber. There are all these stats coming into that
game about New South Wales play well at a neutral venue,
blah blah blah, games two and all this.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Sort of stuff. This happens every year with State of Origin.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If there's a big win in the first game, everyone's like, oh,
that's the end of the series.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, right, this is why we play three games, and
statistically doesn't this always happen? Queensland win, Yeah, neutral venue,
New South Wales put on a decent game. We didn't
want fight up and then we go back to Suncorp
and then you get your eyes handed to it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah. Literally, the blueprint is there. I think that's what's
going to happen. I don't think the next game is
for quite a while. It's towards the end of July,
I believe. Yeah, but I'm very much looking forward to that.
I don't think though.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I still think New South Wales will win, but I
think I'm hoping that Game three will be an absolute barnstorm.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, same here, Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that
New South Wales really found something in that second game,
and there'll be a lot of adjustments going into the
next game. I don't think the Rids will change their
team too much, but that's what they do, right, They
just stick and hold. Yeah, that's right. Maybe bringing a
fore feeder. They got a hiding.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
They did get a hiding. I don't think the feeda
stops that hiding.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
They got to do something, they do, got to do
something that doesn't seem like a very Queen's Land move. No,
I mean that's what I would be doing. But I
feel they'll bring in some battlers like struggling. They'll bring
in like Jake Grenville or something, you know, and then
it will prove to be like a master stroke that
is what they do.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like Cape Well, I mean Colbo would have I still
think Colbo should be there rather than Cape Wire.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Like just you know, Hammer goes down, Key's injured, Cobo's
time away. That's right, that's what it was. Yeah, Yeah,
that's righties where it's like he probably could play, but
he's buggered.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, and now he's just like, look, I'm just gonna
take you time off.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
SI?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
He's ever gonna play Origin again? Well? Do you mean,
do you reckon he's going to play next week, our
next game. He'll be back in the NRAL after like
three years or something. After he'd be back in the
NRAL in twenty twenty eight, I reckon, yeah, I see
what I say. Four years yes, yeah, yeah. Oh look
if he comes back, I think he plays Origin again.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He's very young. He'll still only be like twenty five
by then.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That fucks me off that it's ridiculous. It passes me
off how young he is, specifically because he's so massive. Yeah,
and he's played for the Roosters for a couple of
years now he signed rugby, you know, like it's just
and you go, I'm twenty or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It is stupid, he's getting younger.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, he started when he was seventeen, you know, and
changed the rules so that they could bring him in
the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
O is that?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I was saying, well, look, bagger, and if he's
good enough then he should be able to play, And
then Diehindould said well what if he was sixteen? I
was like, again, if he's good enough, he is, what
if he is fifteen? So if he's good enough, so
you think a fifteen year old should be in there
deck out with the other players and the change changing years.
I was like, well, not specifically that part. So if
he's good enough, if there's an eight year old who
can play NRAL level footy, yeah, get him out there.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You can be reading the Hungry Catipullar during the week
and then at the weekend he can be putting in
massive heads if he's good enough.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
On a completely unrelated note, and I asked us yesterday
on the Agenda podcast, what's the oldest age you could
have beaten Lebron James yet?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So you right now?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Like, so obviously you could beat two year old Lebron
James at a game of basketball. Could you beat ten
year old Lebron James?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I he is six foot ball then.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I said eight, because he strikes me as a Now,
this is gonna be a hot take. Lebron strikes me
as a guy who picked up a basketball from a
very young age.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I picked up a basketball two years ago or
three years ago, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I was like twenty nine. Yeah, No, he definitely would
beat me. What about what's the oldest he needs to
be before you could beat him again. Oh so it
stops at about eight years old?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, when does it pick up again? Like Kareem right
right now, Kareem would still smoke you, yes, because he's
seven feet tall. And he also will still be able
to shoot. Yeah, they'll be able to shoot till the
day they almost got day they died. He's got their
hook shots still. Ah do what so Lebron ages in
the situation and I don't. Yeah, I think it's sort
of just before his bed ridden and yeah, like the
(07:13):
day before yeah okay, yeah, like deathbit if he's like, look,
I've got one more game and me I want to
go out doing what I love, I'll be like, I'll
play you.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Even mean, I don't know even then is still six
foot nine? This buggery? You can do about it? Yeah? Yeah,
so that's you suck as well.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, well that's the other day as do I that's
the part we're not really accounting for. I know, because
that's what I was saying, is like, God, you only
get one shot at this, So what if you go right,
I think I could beat him at ninety four years old,
and then you go out there and he beats you, Like,
well that was my one shot. I just lost the
ninet four year old Labron. I don't know, I don'd agree,
but I did want to run that one past you.
It's been State of Origin. It was a very entertaining
first like twenty five minutes, but now it's set up
(07:51):
a very entertaining third game. We now turn our attention
to around seventeen Saturday, twenty ninth of June, the Warriors
take on the bron Goes at five pm. The teamless
throughout for that and it is looking very different. The
biggest thing Seawan Johnson out for four weeks. That means
to Mighty Martin's back into seven Chanelle Harris Taveta and
at six Freddy Lussik finds his way back.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Onto the bench.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He would join Dylan Walker, Ja Sevanga cape Wire backing
up from Origin. How do you feel about Sean Johnson
man out.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I feel happy, Really, I'm pleased because Shawnee Jay and
I don't think it's an age like he just has
been clearly dealing with something for most of the season
and after last year's clear deallyan performance of a season
from Seawan Johnson. Yes, he came back. He reached that peak.
(08:43):
From the Warriors with hissing. He's like, yeah, how yea
another year. Boys, it's still it and it just hasn't
unfolded that way. And I feel like because of that,
he has just been trying to get through it and
trying to get things going whilst his ankle is falling apart.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, ankle, peck buddy, the whole shit exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And we're talking to Charlie Gubb about this at the
beginning of the week and he was saying, look to
Mighty Martin in the Halves suite, whether it's chance at
five eight or two, Picky or CHT and they've gone
with HT which is a safe option. That's fine, and
the Wires can do well. They can beat the Panthers
the magic round. Yeah, However, they ain't going to do
shit in the postseason unless you've got a healthy Sean
(09:20):
Johnson and half back for the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah. So I think for.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
The next four or five six weeks, I wouldn't be
surprised if it drags out a bit more. We just
get things clicking, get things clicking, get things clicking. Sean
Johnson comes back, but don't put him as the guy
like let to MIDI Martin. If he's doing a good job,
just stay like that and just go Sean, you're the
second fellow now, like the Lakers with Lebron being like
Anthion Davis, you're the main guy. Lebron's the second guy
(09:44):
now because he's slightly older. A situation like that would
be great.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I feel like the Warriors. In fact, I put twenty
bucks on them to win. Oh yeah, yeah. We were
talking to Carl Tyler from the TB.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Everyone's on the Warriors despite the fact that they're outsiders
at the time of recording this. If you wait until
game day, they may be favorites by the time we start.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It's it's all going to come down to whether or not.
And they've been named in the reserves Reese Walsh, Payinhass
or Pat Kerrigan backup Saturday, three days after State of
Origin and Melbourne, you would have to think not a
flight to Auckland an early three pm game Australian time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's a recipe for a head cold. It's exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And I think the Broncos have been Are they still
inside the eight They're like barely clinging in there. So yeah,
because they're not doing like amazingly since Reese went down,
and also Adam Reynolds obviously, But I think if this
team runs out how it is here on paper, and
they have Jack Gazevski at twelve and like all these
follows like Xavier Willison, who's a beast, but he's a
young fella. Like, if it's like that, I can see
(10:44):
us running a lot of points, and I can see
Adam fanol Blake scoring a try, Mitch Barnett's scoring a
try through the middle.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, I think we can do a job on them.
I think so too. I'm feeling pretty optimistic about this.
This isn't that amazing after last weekend, I know, and
you would think, I don't know what it is about.
We just got our asses handed to us. Our best
player from last year is now out for a month.
We've got a few other injuries floating around as well.
Now we're playing against the team that knocked us out
against the and the playoffs last year, and here I
(11:11):
am putting twenty bucks on it. Yeah, I'm going to
follow you in on that too. I think that there's
I don't note well. Again, on the ACC Sports book
with the TAIRB, we do a segment that we've done
before called stats to and pristol ladies. They actually have
some stats and there's a bunch of them. I won't
try and butcher them now, but they're all around. Anytime
a team gets pants by like sixty something points, they
(11:34):
generally bounce back the knicks, right, Yeah, they generally cover
the line, which is only three and a half points,
which basically means they're gonna work. So, man, you do
the mouth on that. You crunch those numbers, do your
own research. It wasn't just a big loss. It was
the worst loss in the history of the club. That's
embarrassing it is that is a huge pride and injury,
(11:58):
and I think that's why teams after they get spank
they turn around and go go right.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It's almost it's also like when they sack the coach
and then the next game, yeah yeah, the guy interim
coach gets a win.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, at his first game.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You can't fake that kind of desperation exactly, humiliation, embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Because what what we saw.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
In that game last week that I don't really want
to think about too, as they just gave up basically absolutely,
and once you're getting a hiding, like I don't think
that carries over into the next game.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Absolutely not the fucking hope not better fucking not what
I saw from that game, though we discussed it at
length in the second half while we were dying on
our ass commentating the worst game in history is I
think adamfill Blake is an all time great talent, Like
he's amazing. He also isn't the right person. He's obviously sulking. Still,
(12:50):
he'll be pissed off about that loss. Yeah, he obviously
wants out. Yeah, you know, like there's there's stuff behind
the scenes happening with him. We're trying to I think
the Warriors are currently trying to offload him, but they
have to pay money the Sharks to get him early
and shit. Yeah, So I think he is a negative
influence in the changing rooms.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah and not. But I don't think actively.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I think just by virtue of the fact that you know,
if he's if we suck.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He's gonna be like he's a bit sulky about it. Yeah,
but it's not like rallying the boys together, no.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Exactly, which is And then it was almost like that's
what we saw. The lack of guys like Mitch Barnett
and Kirk kape Wa. Yeah, it was almost like you
need fellas like that, and to who's been doing it
for ages, but he's old now, Yeah, let him play
forty off the bench man. Whereas James Fisher Harris is
coming next year. He would stay with that shit. Absolutely not.
We would have lost sixty to Sex if James Fisher
(13:42):
Harris was there. They know he would have at least
got rid of one try, maybe even more. But he's
the kind of guy that would rack the boys up
and get them to actually, I hope yeah stand up,
whereas I don't see Adam Fanuel Blake doing that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, And I don't really know who it is.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think it could be tol who he seems like
quite a softly spoken dude.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
He absolutely is, he's so chill.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I think generally it's Sean Johnson, but I think he
was just too injured in that game, and I think
he knew it would be a little bit eat us
to try and give everyone else a g up when
he knew himself he wasn't at full Street.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know who else it could be. It's Mitch Barnett, well.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Mitch Barnett, but also it could also be Dylan Wantenzi Lisnier,
who wasn't there because he's he was captain of the
Dogs for ages, wasn't Hell the Panthers or something when
they both teams were when they were shit, he kept
in the kiwis and the keywis is yeah, Keywi's that's right.
And so I think Dylan could almost be a guy
that geez them up a wee bit from out on
the wing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, and because you can tell by the way he
runs the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
But something was missing there that was the key to
unlocking our like not I'd like the real cheesy like
you know, doing it for the jersey or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think Mitch Barnett is that guy. I think I
think Kirk cape Well's that guy as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
He's a leader, isn't he. It's a great point that
you raised it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Neither of those guys were there, and then all of
a sudden we sort of let go of the rope
in that game. So yeah, you need someone in there,
g and everyone up. Yeah, with both those guys back
and and named to start as well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
With Mitch Barnett's case, and then Kirk Capey are.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Coming off the bench, I don't think they're going to
change this teamless too.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Much, I hope not.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love the look of this teamless.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So do I. But that's the new Corny's looking great,
Jackson Ford.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Can we just get some sort of like sticky spray
on his hand, on his chest whatever they used to
have in the NFL that they banned because it was
way too easy to catch the ball. If we could
just get some of that stuff in there and yeah,
and just coat him in it, yeah, powder coat the
X sex forward. Yeah, get him a couple of fucking
(15:36):
baseball mets. I don't know something. The knock ons are
out of control at the moment. Outside that, he's excellent.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That's the thing is when we're all clicking with plenty
of go forward and he's got time to just like
catch the ball and run without having all this pressure
and shit, he's been going great in the front row
and I think that's his spot.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah. You've got to do is a shitload of work,
run and tackle.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, he's great for that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And every now and then someone will throw you a
no look past, it will bounce off your I don't
think it's all his fail No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
He's just here's the circle on his chest, please put
the ball there otherwise who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So that is the team list as they line up
Selwyn Coma and Tony Staggs back and I'm Jesse Arthur's
beck in for the Broncos as well. I really don't
think we're going to see any of the Origin dudes
who were named on the extended bench, Reese Welsh, Patrick Harrigan.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I just don't think so, certainly not Reese Welsh.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's such like we're only at round seventeen this week. Yeah,
still what ten more rounds to go and then the
postseason and state of Origin. Payneharts will be the only
one I think who would well because he actually missed
a few games at the beginning of the year, so
he's had more time off than the others. I think
he would want to play. But anyway, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
At the time recording this podcast, War is a two
dollars twenty five outsiders, so I'm probably going to get
on that tonight. Yeah, to lock that price in before
it shortens up. We will be die and the Pantsman
will be commentating that one five pm on Skysport nine.
Make sure you tune in for that one. We're going
to take a quick break when we come back. We're
going to talk about a super coach just before we do.
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all right, supercoach Chris. It's sort of a weird period
(17:26):
at the moment where most people's cash generation has sort
of been done and your team's starting to firm up.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Is how you want it to be. We're through the
worst of the origin by round Shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeap, only got one more.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I only got one more.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It is still tricky. I'm sure of a player. I
think I've only got I've got sixteen for around nineteen
that I can field, yep, for around nineteen. The problem
I have is I've got like two or three nuffies
in there that don't play, and I've only got them
because they are position eligible.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right, I'm just Jed cart right and for feeder.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Is that Vito who is like one of the top
ten most owned players and super coach.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I've got them. Yeah, everyone does.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I haven't started nothing yet.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And if you don'tant nothing, it's when you just choose
guys that don't play, but you make sure that dual
position so you can switch your team around.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I've just checked.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I've got eighteen Oh great, which is a total fluke.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
How many trades do you have left?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Twelve?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, see, I have thirteen and I've got one boost
and so I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
A little twelve and one boost. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I'm a little confused as to what to do.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So let's go through the buys, cells, captains, different options.
So Nico Hines is back this week for the Sharks.
The Sharks have a tremendous run home. They potentially, depending
on how the other teams like whether they win or lose,
the Sharks may not face another top eight team after
(18:56):
the beat of Joke for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's right, Yeah, it's a joke.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So they've got the cushiest and even at the start
of the season, before we even got underway, everyone was like, wow,
the Sharks have got an easy draw.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
This year.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, so now is potentially the time to get on
the Sharks. The only think about Nico Hines is his
break even is two hundred and twelve. Shout out. I've
never seen a break even that high. No, so don't
get him this week. So when he plays the Bulldogs.
I saw a good breakdown of this online. He basically
can score seventy points tomorrow this weekend, sorry, and still
(19:28):
lose one hundred thousand dollars in value, which is outrage
as outrageous. So I don't think it's worth getting Necho
this week. But next week, I reckon, you need to
set your team up in such a way that you
can bring him in. Okay, yes, because he is going
to drop money. Now, I've had Niko the entire season.
I don't care how much he costs. I want him
in my team. You still have them, I still have him,
(19:49):
all right.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So it's last few weeks I've been shit house, but
I've still got him, and so he's just in for
the rest of the seas because I'm running low on
trades now on anyone I bring in from this point
is going to be in my team at the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
The reason why he so wait a week he might
score seventy, he might even score one hundred and something.
You go, damn it, he's still going to drop one
hundred thousand dollars. Then bring him in instantly because he
goes Titans in round eighteen. Yeah, Tiger's nineteen by But
then the Cowboys who have been struggling, the Bunnies who
have been struggling, the Titans again.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, the Knights who are sort.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Of in the middle, the Dragons us, and then manly,
what an outrageous run home. So get Nico Hines and
the other two guys who the entire world are bringing in.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm one of them. I already have Ronaldo.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Mully Talo, he stuck with him. I got him maybe
three weeks ago. Oh okay, because Brad went whenever Braidon
Trendall came back. Yeah, he was in the four hundreds.
He's four hundred and eighty, and I was like, I'll
just get Molly tallor because they're right home is ridiculous,
and when they start clicking, he'll start scoring again. And
the other guy's Brittain Nickulder. Yeah, one hundred and twenty
over the weekend, who scored one hundred and twenty. He's
five hundred and seventy thousand. This is a guy who
(20:55):
consistently last year for about eight weeks, was pumping out nineties. Yeah,
because he was scoring so many tries running off Necho's hip. Yeah,
and so I don't know. I like to think Neko,
now that there's no origin worries, all he's going to
do is worry about getting the sharks and actually showing
that they're not just a mirage like they were last year. Yeah,
and just get that side clicking again running off as her.
(21:15):
Surely Brittain Nikolder.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Is going to go up.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I agree with you. I'm going to try and bring
it in Mollly Talor this week because I've got a
couple of terrible sinder Wings that I need to get
rid of.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Took a real potshot at Jack White in a few
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So random, by the way, has not so random was
that when he switched into the halves. It was when
it was when they turned around and started winning game,
because they've been looking great now, and I was like,
Jack one, here we go.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I also thought he was going to get Jill position
eligibility hasn't yet.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
That would have been handy.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
The other one I've brought in, and the whole world
is looking at it as Fletcher Sharp.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, if Sharp the only issue with him. He's fullback.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yes, he's two hundred four thousand dollars, but most people
will have to disc well. I like to think most
people have Todeskco locked and as their starting fall back.
The other two big guns you want are probably Turbo
or Pongo, and they're not back yet. So just go
for Sharp until one of them comes back, and then
you'll make a two three hundred thousand on them.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah. So here's my scenario that I talked about last week.
I was gonna bend Latrell because I got titty in Latrell.
I was like, I can't because I'm probably gonna want
Latreil back. But I'm now looking at it. They got
the buy this week. Yeah, I can't have a million
dollars sitting on my bench doing nothing. No, and then
in stead of Origin comes around.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So he's gonna miss quite a few games, that's right.
So I should have got rid of him last week.
I'm going to do it this week.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's going to clear the path for a lot of
salary next week, which is when I bring Nico Hines in.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I think give Sharp's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, so you need to bring Nico Hines and you
also are going to I assume at some point, need
to bring Nathan Cleary in around round twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
So there's a lot of cat and if you want
to do stuff like if you got rid of cricht
Angus Crichton over State of O and you want to
bring him back, there's a lot of these guys that
you're gonna need money for. Yeah, Sharp, I reckon as
a guarantee four three hundred four hundy K over the
next few weeks. Plus chances are you're downgrading from someone,
So yes, that's right. So that freeze up cash. Not
that at this point of the season you need to
be making heaps of cash. But I also don't think
(23:11):
it's ever a bad thing. Making money is the only
way you can improve your team. If Turbo was flying,
Ponger was flying right now, I wouldn't even look twice
at Sharp.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Pappenhausen's struggling. It's been a shit show. Everyone's in Jeddler
Treu's been called out. It's like for the first time
ever fullback. Isn't the amazing spot it has always been. Yeah,
it will be at the end of the season. Yes,
So in the meantime, just makes the care take advantage
of it. Yeah, and he's also a good player. He's
played two games against the Panthers and the Storm, who
are the best teams of the Calm and average is
(23:43):
sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And he's the man.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So imagine when he plays. I don't even who they're
playing this week, but whoever they are, he's you know,
he's going to do a job and get you maybe
seventy eighty.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Points they're playing the Eels, ah ninety or one hundred points. Yeah, exact, exactly.
Cells I think so far along as a cell.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, he came off the bench at the last minute
last week, which meant he only got thirty three points.
Pretty impressive considering it's off the bench.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, definitely, And he's an impressive player.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
He's great.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
However, there has been whispers nurl Physio tweeted out earlier
today or maybe it was last night, that Poppenhausen is
a chance to maybe miss out this round.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh really dealing with just a little niggle. However, I
think let me, just double check this. This is just
the problem with that is why not trade him to Sharp,
make money and then increase one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
So if you've still got far a long more wait
and see. So they are playing. The issue is that
they are playing I think Sunday night Melbourne. Yeah, and
so if they roll him out at last minute, you've
got to wait right until the Saturday night actually, so
it's not too far off, just after the Warriors game,
third game of the night. So if you've got far
along more. The good thing about him is he is
(24:48):
sent to wing eligible. Yeah, so what you could do
is bring Sharpen and just bump him up to one
of your shitty center wings and just keep an eye
and then if Pappenhausen is out, you could get one
more game of him at fallback for the Melbourne Storm
against the Raiders who had an absolute score put on
them by the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
It's a luxury though, to be able to do that,
it's very specific. You have to be in a good situation.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, otherwise dump on because what one week left? He's
been great?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
But yeah, do you really want to be playing? Is
that the game you want to be playing? Yeah? Fuck?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I hope Sowis starts and then goes gang buses. Yeah,
I don't know, blay Stelong. If he's still on your roster,
I reckon, now's the time to get rid of him.
He's been playing well, the scores haven't been bad, but
he's six hundred and five thousand dollars and the Eels suck.
The Eels a bottom of the table, and I know
they're getting players back, and Mitch Moses just broke whatever
record in Origin.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just still look at that Eels team and think
they suck.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I think if if Gatho goes down again, Untilo, he
goes to fall back sweet Yeah. Outside of that, I'm like, but.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I wouldn't hold on to him on the off jut
absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
In fact, what I'd probably do is i'd enough him out, Yeah,
because it's just getting to the point of the season
where you kind of need to just like one of
your two rfs, enough of them out, one of your
center wings, nothing out, which is bringing in a non
playing bottom dollar player and just bankle that cash man. Yeah,
and then all of a sudden you can go ham
on like a val Homes or someone that you know
that yeah, haven't got or whatever, dude.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You've been watching all season, Ben, like I wish I
had that though, exactly enough, one of your boys out
and then just splash out, treat yourself captains for this week?
Is anybody not captaining to Disco. I'm captaining to Disco.
The only issue with him is, well, actually it's good
he plays the last game of the round against his
old team, the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah. I'm not gonna again.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm not going to get into the dark art so
the vice captain, lope, I'm gonna stuff that one up.
So I'm just sitting and forgetting him as captain. The
good thing about this is my vice captain is Necho Hines.
I've got him still. He's playing the first game of
the round, which means I have the entire weekend to
make your decision to hopefully if he scores one hundred
(26:53):
and fifty plus, hopefully remember to do the switch. Because
that's the issue is I always forget, and it always
so Yeah, I'm like you, I try to avoid it,
but you know, Nico, first game of the round, Teddy,
last game of the round, you can't really go wrong. Yeah, okay,
I agree with you. I don't think anyone would be
captaining not captaining Teddy, And I would say that there's
a couple of different ways you can look at it,
(27:14):
Like do you want to go point a difference captain
to try and beat other people because everyone else is
going to be captaining him?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I kind of think no.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I would just be like, look, I'm going to captain
him because everyone else is, so if he fails to fire,
at least he didn't fire for anyone else. That was
a piece of advice.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I was listening to a podcast a few weeks back
of a guy who won it, and he was just like,
just captain who everyone else is captaining, and then use
your other positions to make up the difference, to make
up the difference, because the last thing you want to
do is miss out on a guy like and also,
it's Teddy against the Tigers. Who else are you going
to captain that's possibly going to score more than he is?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
This is a ridiculous situation. And if you captain him
and you were wrong, at least you were wrong for
the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yes, And if he gets high shotted and gets five points,
everyone is in the same bar.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
All good, So yeah, lock in titty captain, titty captain,
and then who cares about vice captain because it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you could win your match up that week,
but you could definitely fuck yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah. Absolutely all right, I think we'll knock that on
the head for this week.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay. Enjoy your weekend of football, Enjoy the commentary Saturday
five pm Pantsman Die Henwood as well. We'll be back
on Monday for another episode of the Mad Monday Podcast,
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I go there and welcome back into the Mad Monday
podcast of a Thursday, but always brought to you by
four and twenty pis and perfectly at home snack for
watching State of Origin. It's stupid o'clock on a Wednesday,
thankfully a shortened week.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
My name is saw A Manayowi joining me.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Fresh off the back of State of Origin commentary is
adding Vanua Kezy Good afternoon, although to be honest, feels
a little bit more like morning, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Is it not eight am right now commentating a game
at ten on a Wednesday that finishes at midnight. And man,
I the last few games that we've done together, it
just they just blowout.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We're the jinks.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We are the Jinks And like I'm a new South
Wales fan. But and that was great to begin with, Yeah,
but there's no point watching the second half.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It really fizzled out, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It was just such a blowout and it was such
a comprehensive one I felt like, and I said it
throughout the commentary. The new South Wales defense was just smothering.
That was shutting down Queensland. Yeah, Queensland's options every single time, anytime.
DCE felt like he just had hit on a plate
the entire night, like he was just getting cut down
(01:13):
and her Man Reese Wald, we're just gonna waste these
two and then what else are they really going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And it worked.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It does work because DCE is pretty much the puppet
master of Queensland.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It has been for a while now.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, And to be honest, that smothering defense is not
something you really associate with New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's usually the other way around. So I maage Maguire's
taking them up into the Blue Mountains. Yeah, and he's
done something that's really and we mentioned that a lot
last night as well. I was just the dudes that
stood up with the dudes with.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
The question marks around them, Latrell Mitchell, Yeah, you know, Trail,
we don't know. He's overrated, he's he's a piece of
shit whatever. All the all the news around him is
always that yeah, comes and instantly makes everything so much better. Defensively,
was just shutting down Valentine Holmes the whole night.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It was a menace.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And Zach Lomax, who I hate, played great, kicked really well.
No dumb shit, Yeah, Flick passes. No, I think there
might have been one. There was one later in the game.
It was like, okay, fine, you can have that.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Mitch Moses came in and had four triasists, equal Freddy
Fitler for the most in Origin history in one game.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So it was just, yeah, the narrative of just those
three guys standing up massively. Angus Crichton as well, who
like question marks around him after he went to Amsterdam
and lost his mind.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Or whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yep, Liam Martin played well, see Selene, you played like
you'd heard me talking so much shit about him for
the last few months. Yeah, it's only because I want
Mitch Bunnett to be on there, and I felt like
Mitch Burnie should have had his spot.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, Mitch Bunnette is more of a like crighton, you know,
He's not a come off the bench guy. He is
a play the fulady and be solid, whereas you need
a little psycho like Spencer Lin you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Off the bench. And he was excellent last night.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He was Yeah, I mean he was stupid, oh yeah,
like running in starting fights, doing all sorts of stupid shit.
But the energy, the intensity, It's like when Zion Mo
who came on for us that one game, and yeah
got us back and form.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
He's a bit of that. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Best part about it is that we don't have a
dead rubber. There are all these stats coming into that
game about New South Wales play well at a neutral venue,
blah blah blah, games two and all this.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Sort of stuff. This happens every year with State of Origin.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If there's a big win in the first game, everyone's like, oh,
that's the end of the series.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, right, this is why we play three games, and
statistically doesn't this always happen? Queensland win, Yeah, neutral venue,
New South Wales put on a decent game. We didn't
want fight up and then we go back to Suncorp
and then you get your eyes handed to it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah. Literally, the blueprint is there. I think that's what's
going to happen. I don't think the next game is
for quite a while. It's towards the end of July,
I believe. Yeah, but I'm very much looking forward to that.
I don't think though.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I still think New South Wales will win, but I
think I'm hoping that Game three will be an absolute barnstorm.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, same here, Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that
New South Wales really found something in that second game,
and there'll be a lot of adjustments going into the
next game. I don't think the Rids will change their
team too much, but that's what they do, right, They
just stick and hold. Yeah, that's right. Maybe bringing a
fore feeder. They got a hiding.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
They did get a hiding. I don't think the feeda
stops that hiding.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
They got to do something, they do, got to do
something that doesn't seem like a very Queen's Land move. No,
I mean that's what I would be doing. But I
feel they'll bring in some battlers like struggling. They'll bring
in like Jake Grenville or something, you know, and then
it will prove to be like a master stroke that
is what they do.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like Cape Well, I mean Colbo would have I still
think Colbo should be there rather than Cape Wire.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Like just you know, Hammer goes down, Key's injured, Cobo's
time away. That's right, that's what it was. Yeah, Yeah,
that's righties where it's like he probably could play, but
he's buggered.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, and now he's just like, look, I'm just gonna
take you time off.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
SI?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
He's ever gonna play Origin again? Well? Do you mean,
do you reckon he's going to play next week, our
next game. He'll be back in the NRAL after like
three years or something. After he'd be back in the
NRAL in twenty twenty eight, I reckon, yeah, I see
what I say. Four years yes, yeah, yeah. Oh look
if he comes back, I think he plays Origin again.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He's very young. He'll still only be like twenty five
by then.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That fucks me off that it's ridiculous. It passes me
off how young he is, specifically because he's so massive. Yeah,
and he's played for the Roosters for a couple of
years now he signed rugby, you know, like it's just
and you go, I'm twenty or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It is stupid, he's getting younger.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, he started when he was seventeen, you know, and
changed the rules so that they could bring him in
the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
O is that?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I was saying, well, look, bagger, and if he's
good enough then he should be able to play, And
then Diehindould said well what if he was sixteen? I
was like, again, if he's good enough, he is, what
if he is fifteen? So if he's good enough, so
you think a fifteen year old should be in there
deck out with the other players and the change changing years.
I was like, well, not specifically that part. So if
he's good enough, if there's an eight year old who
can play NRAL level footy, yeah, get him out there.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You can be reading the Hungry Catipullar during the week
and then at the weekend he can be putting in
massive heads if he's good enough.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
On a completely unrelated note, and I asked us yesterday
on the Agenda podcast, what's the oldest age you could
have beaten Lebron James yet?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So you right now?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Like, so obviously you could beat two year old Lebron
James at a game of basketball. Could you beat ten
year old Lebron James?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I he is six foot ball then.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I said eight, because he strikes me as a Now,
this is gonna be a hot take. Lebron strikes me
as a guy who picked up a basketball from a
very young age.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I picked up a basketball two years ago or
three years ago, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I was like twenty nine. Yeah, No, he definitely would
beat me. What about what's the oldest he needs to
be before you could beat him again. Oh so it
stops at about eight years old?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, when does it pick up again? Like Kareem right
right now, Kareem would still smoke you, yes, because he's
seven feet tall. And he also will still be able
to shoot. Yeah, they'll be able to shoot till the
day they almost got day they died. He's got their
hook shots still. Ah do what so Lebron ages in
the situation and I don't. Yeah, I think it's sort
of just before his bed ridden and yeah, like the
(07:13):
day before yeah okay, yeah, like deathbit if he's like, look,
I've got one more game and me I want to
go out doing what I love, I'll be like, I'll
play you.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Even mean, I don't know even then is still six
foot nine? This buggery? You can do about it? Yeah? Yeah,
so that's you suck as well.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, well that's the other day as do I that's
the part we're not really accounting for. I know, because
that's what I was saying, is like, God, you only
get one shot at this, So what if you go right,
I think I could beat him at ninety four years old,
and then you go out there and he beats you, Like,
well that was my one shot. I just lost the
ninet four year old Labron. I don't know, I don'd agree,
but I did want to run that one past you.
It's been State of Origin. It was a very entertaining
first like twenty five minutes, but now it's set up
(07:51):
a very entertaining third game. We now turn our attention
to around seventeen Saturday, twenty ninth of June, the Warriors
take on the bron Goes at five pm. The teamless
throughout for that and it is looking very different. The
biggest thing Seawan Johnson out for four weeks. That means
to Mighty Martin's back into seven Chanelle Harris Taveta and
at six Freddy Lussik finds his way back.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Onto the bench.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He would join Dylan Walker, Ja Sevanga cape Wire backing
up from Origin. How do you feel about Sean Johnson
man out.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I feel happy, Really, I'm pleased because Shawnee Jay and
I don't think it's an age like he just has
been clearly dealing with something for most of the season
and after last year's clear deallyan performance of a season
from Seawan Johnson. Yes, he came back. He reached that peak.
(08:43):
From the Warriors with hissing. He's like, yeah, how yea
another year. Boys, it's still it and it just hasn't
unfolded that way. And I feel like because of that,
he has just been trying to get through it and
trying to get things going whilst his ankle is falling apart.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, ankle, peck buddy, the whole shit exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And we're talking to Charlie Gubb about this at the
beginning of the week and he was saying, look to
Mighty Martin in the Halves suite, whether it's chance at
five eight or two, Picky or CHT and they've gone
with HT which is a safe option. That's fine, and
the Wires can do well. They can beat the Panthers
the magic round. Yeah, However, they ain't going to do
shit in the postseason unless you've got a healthy Sean
(09:20):
Johnson and half back for the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah. So I think for.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
The next four or five six weeks, I wouldn't be
surprised if it drags out a bit more. We just
get things clicking, get things clicking, get things clicking. Sean
Johnson comes back, but don't put him as the guy
like let to MIDI Martin. If he's doing a good job,
just stay like that and just go Sean, you're the
second fellow now, like the Lakers with Lebron being like
Anthion Davis, you're the main guy. Lebron's the second guy
(09:44):
now because he's slightly older. A situation like that would
be great.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I feel like the Warriors. In fact, I put twenty
bucks on them to win. Oh yeah, yeah. We were
talking to Carl Tyler from the TB.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Everyone's on the Warriors despite the fact that they're outsiders
at the time of recording this. If you wait until
game day, they may be favorites by the time we start.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It's it's all going to come down to whether or not.
And they've been named in the reserves Reese Walsh, Payinhass
or Pat Kerrigan backup Saturday, three days after State of
Origin and Melbourne, you would have to think not a
flight to Auckland an early three pm game Australian time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's a recipe for a head cold. It's exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And I think the Broncos have been Are they still
inside the eight They're like barely clinging in there. So yeah,
because they're not doing like amazingly since Reese went down,
and also Adam Reynolds obviously, But I think if this
team runs out how it is here on paper, and
they have Jack Gazevski at twelve and like all these
follows like Xavier Willison, who's a beast, but he's a
young fella. Like, if it's like that, I can see
(10:44):
us running a lot of points, and I can see
Adam fanol Blake scoring a try, Mitch Barnett's scoring a
try through the middle.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, I think we can do a job on them.
I think so too. I'm feeling pretty optimistic about this.
This isn't that amazing after last weekend, I know, and
you would think, I don't know what it is about.
We just got our asses handed to us. Our best
player from last year is now out for a month.
We've got a few other injuries floating around as well.
Now we're playing against the team that knocked us out
against the and the playoffs last year, and here I
(11:11):
am putting twenty bucks on it. Yeah, I'm going to
follow you in on that too. I think that there's
I don't note well. Again, on the ACC Sports book
with the TAIRB, we do a segment that we've done
before called stats to and pristol ladies. They actually have
some stats and there's a bunch of them. I won't
try and butcher them now, but they're all around. Anytime
a team gets pants by like sixty something points, they
(11:34):
generally bounce back the knicks, right, Yeah, they generally cover
the line, which is only three and a half points,
which basically means they're gonna work. So, man, you do
the mouth on that. You crunch those numbers, do your
own research. It wasn't just a big loss. It was
the worst loss in the history of the club. That's
embarrassing it is that is a huge pride and injury,
(11:58):
and I think that's why teams after they get spank
they turn around and go go right.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It's almost it's also like when they sack the coach
and then the next game, yeah yeah, the guy interim
coach gets a win.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, at his first game.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You can't fake that kind of desperation exactly, humiliation, embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Because what what we saw.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
In that game last week that I don't really want
to think about too, as they just gave up basically absolutely,
and once you're getting a hiding, like I don't think
that carries over into the next game.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Absolutely not the fucking hope not better fucking not what
I saw from that game, though we discussed it at
length in the second half while we were dying on
our ass commentating the worst game in history is I
think adamfill Blake is an all time great talent, Like
he's amazing. He also isn't the right person. He's obviously sulking. Still,
(12:50):
he'll be pissed off about that loss. Yeah, he obviously
wants out. Yeah, you know, like there's there's stuff behind
the scenes happening with him. We're trying to I think
the Warriors are currently trying to offload him, but they
have to pay money the Sharks to get him early
and shit. Yeah, So I think he is a negative
influence in the changing rooms.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah and not. But I don't think actively.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I think just by virtue of the fact that you know,
if he's if we suck.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He's gonna be like he's a bit sulky about it. Yeah,
but it's not like rallying the boys together, no.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Exactly, which is And then it was almost like that's
what we saw. The lack of guys like Mitch Barnett
and Kirk kape Wa. Yeah, it was almost like you
need fellas like that, and to who's been doing it
for ages, but he's old now, Yeah, let him play
forty off the bench man. Whereas James Fisher Harris is
coming next year. He would stay with that shit. Absolutely not.
We would have lost sixty to Sex if James Fisher
(13:42):
Harris was there. They know he would have at least
got rid of one try, maybe even more. But he's
the kind of guy that would rack the boys up
and get them to actually, I hope yeah stand up,
whereas I don't see Adam Fanuel Blake doing that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, And I don't really know who it is.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think it could be tol who he seems like
quite a softly spoken dude.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
He absolutely is, he's so chill.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I think generally it's Sean Johnson, but I think he
was just too injured in that game, and I think
he knew it would be a little bit eat us
to try and give everyone else a g up when
he knew himself he wasn't at full Street.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know who else it could be. It's Mitch Barnett, well.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Mitch Barnett, but also it could also be Dylan Wantenzi Lisnier,
who wasn't there because he's he was captain of the
Dogs for ages, wasn't Hell the Panthers or something when
they both teams were when they were shit, he kept
in the kiwis and the keywis is yeah, Keywi's that's right.
And so I think Dylan could almost be a guy
that geez them up a wee bit from out on
the wing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, and because you can tell by the way he
runs the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
But something was missing there that was the key to
unlocking our like not I'd like the real cheesy like
you know, doing it for the jersey or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think Mitch Barnett is that guy. I think I
think Kirk cape Well's that guy as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
He's a leader, isn't he. It's a great point that
you raised it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Neither of those guys were there, and then all of
a sudden we sort of let go of the rope
in that game. So yeah, you need someone in there,
g and everyone up. Yeah, with both those guys back
and and named to start as well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
With Mitch Barnett's case, and then Kirk Capey are.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Coming off the bench, I don't think they're going to
change this teamless too.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Much, I hope not.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love the look of this teamless.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So do I. But that's the new Corny's looking great,
Jackson Ford.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Can we just get some sort of like sticky spray
on his hand, on his chest whatever they used to
have in the NFL that they banned because it was
way too easy to catch the ball. If we could
just get some of that stuff in there and yeah,
and just coat him in it, yeah, powder coat the
X sex forward. Yeah, get him a couple of fucking
(15:36):
baseball mets. I don't know something. The knock ons are
out of control at the moment. Outside that, he's excellent.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That's the thing is when we're all clicking with plenty
of go forward and he's got time to just like
catch the ball and run without having all this pressure
and shit, he's been going great in the front row
and I think that's his spot.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah. You've got to do is a shitload of work,
run and tackle.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, he's great for that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And every now and then someone will throw you a
no look past, it will bounce off your I don't
think it's all his fail No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
He's just here's the circle on his chest, please put
the ball there otherwise who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So that is the team list as they line up
Selwyn Coma and Tony Staggs back and I'm Jesse Arthur's
beck in for the Broncos as well. I really don't
think we're going to see any of the Origin dudes
who were named on the extended bench, Reese Welsh, Patrick Harrigan.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I just don't think so, certainly not Reese Welsh.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's such like we're only at round seventeen this week. Yeah,
still what ten more rounds to go and then the
postseason and state of Origin. Payneharts will be the only
one I think who would well because he actually missed
a few games at the beginning of the year, so
he's had more time off than the others. I think
he would want to play. But anyway, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
At the time recording this podcast, War is a two
dollars twenty five outsiders, so I'm probably going to get
on that tonight. Yeah, to lock that price in before
it shortens up. We will be die and the Pantsman
will be commentating that one five pm on Skysport nine.
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to take a quick break when we come back. We're
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all right, supercoach Chris. It's sort of a weird period
(17:26):
at the moment where most people's cash generation has sort
of been done and your team's starting to firm up.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Is how you want it to be. We're through the
worst of the origin by round Shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeap, only got one more.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I only got one more.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It is still tricky. I'm sure of a player. I
think I've only got I've got sixteen for around nineteen
that I can field, yep, for around nineteen. The problem
I have is I've got like two or three nuffies
in there that don't play, and I've only got them
because they are position eligible.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right, I'm just Jed cart right and for feeder.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Is that Vito who is like one of the top
ten most owned players and super coach.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I've got them. Yeah, everyone does.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I haven't started nothing yet.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And if you don'tant nothing, it's when you just choose
guys that don't play, but you make sure that dual
position so you can switch your team around.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I've just checked.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I've got eighteen Oh great, which is a total fluke.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
How many trades do you have left?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Twelve?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, see, I have thirteen and I've got one boost
and so I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
A little twelve and one boost. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I'm a little confused as to what to do.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So let's go through the buys, cells, captains, different options.
So Nico Hines is back this week for the Sharks.
The Sharks have a tremendous run home. They potentially, depending
on how the other teams like whether they win or lose,
the Sharks may not face another top eight team after
(18:56):
the beat of Joke for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's right, Yeah, it's a joke.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So they've got the cushiest and even at the start
of the season, before we even got underway, everyone was like, wow,
the Sharks have got an easy draw.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
This year.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, so now is potentially the time to get on
the Sharks. The only think about Nico Hines is his
break even is two hundred and twelve. Shout out. I've
never seen a break even that high. No, so don't
get him this week. So when he plays the Bulldogs.
I saw a good breakdown of this online. He basically
can score seventy points tomorrow this weekend, sorry, and still
(19:28):
lose one hundred thousand dollars in value, which is outrage
as outrageous. So I don't think it's worth getting Necho
this week. But next week, I reckon, you need to
set your team up in such a way that you
can bring him in. Okay, yes, because he is going
to drop money. Now, I've had Niko the entire season.
I don't care how much he costs. I want him
in my team. You still have them, I still have him,
(19:49):
all right.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So it's last few weeks I've been shit house, but
I've still got him, and so he's just in for
the rest of the seas because I'm running low on
trades now on anyone I bring in from this point
is going to be in my team at the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
The reason why he so wait a week he might
score seventy, he might even score one hundred and something.
You go, damn it, he's still going to drop one
hundred thousand dollars. Then bring him in instantly because he
goes Titans in round eighteen. Yeah, Tiger's nineteen by But
then the Cowboys who have been struggling, the Bunnies who
have been struggling, the Titans again.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, the Knights who are sort.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Of in the middle, the Dragons us, and then manly,
what an outrageous run home. So get Nico Hines and
the other two guys who the entire world are bringing in.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm one of them. I already have Ronaldo.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Mully Talo, he stuck with him. I got him maybe
three weeks ago. Oh okay, because Brad went whenever Braidon
Trendall came back. Yeah, he was in the four hundreds.
He's four hundred and eighty, and I was like, I'll
just get Molly tallor because they're right home is ridiculous,
and when they start clicking, he'll start scoring again. And
the other guy's Brittain Nickulder. Yeah, one hundred and twenty
over the weekend, who scored one hundred and twenty. He's
five hundred and seventy thousand. This is a guy who
(20:55):
consistently last year for about eight weeks, was pumping out nineties. Yeah,
because he was scoring so many tries running off Necho's hip. Yeah,
and so I don't know. I like to think Neko,
now that there's no origin worries, all he's going to
do is worry about getting the sharks and actually showing
that they're not just a mirage like they were last year. Yeah,
and just get that side clicking again running off as her.
(21:15):
Surely Brittain Nikolder.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Is going to go up.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I agree with you. I'm going to try and bring
it in Mollly Talor this week because I've got a
couple of terrible sinder Wings that I need to get
rid of.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Took a real potshot at Jack White in a few
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So random, by the way, has not so random was
that when he switched into the halves. It was when
it was when they turned around and started winning game,
because they've been looking great now, and I was like,
Jack one, here we go.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I also thought he was going to get Jill position
eligibility hasn't yet.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
That would have been handy.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
The other one I've brought in, and the whole world
is looking at it as Fletcher Sharp.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, if Sharp the only issue with him. He's fullback.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yes, he's two hundred four thousand dollars, but most people
will have to disc well. I like to think most
people have Todeskco locked and as their starting fall back.
The other two big guns you want are probably Turbo
or Pongo, and they're not back yet. So just go
for Sharp until one of them comes back, and then
you'll make a two three hundred thousand on them.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah. So here's my scenario that I talked about last week.
I was gonna bend Latrell because I got titty in Latrell.
I was like, I can't because I'm probably gonna want
Latreil back. But I'm now looking at it. They got
the buy this week. Yeah, I can't have a million
dollars sitting on my bench doing nothing. No, and then
in stead of Origin comes around.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So he's gonna miss quite a few games, that's right.
So I should have got rid of him last week.
I'm going to do it this week.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's going to clear the path for a lot of
salary next week, which is when I bring Nico Hines in.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I think give Sharp's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, so you need to bring Nico Hines and you
also are going to I assume at some point, need
to bring Nathan Cleary in around round twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
So there's a lot of cat and if you want
to do stuff like if you got rid of cricht
Angus Crichton over State of O and you want to
bring him back, there's a lot of these guys that
you're gonna need money for. Yeah, Sharp, I reckon as
a guarantee four three hundred four hundy K over the
next few weeks. Plus chances are you're downgrading from someone,
So yes, that's right. So that freeze up cash. Not
that at this point of the season you need to
be making heaps of cash. But I also don't think
(23:11):
it's ever a bad thing. Making money is the only
way you can improve your team. If Turbo was flying,
Ponger was flying right now, I wouldn't even look twice
at Sharp.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Pappenhausen's struggling. It's been a shit show. Everyone's in Jeddler
Treu's been called out. It's like for the first time
ever fullback. Isn't the amazing spot it has always been. Yeah,
it will be at the end of the season. Yes,
So in the meantime, just makes the care take advantage
of it. Yeah, and he's also a good player. He's
played two games against the Panthers and the Storm, who
are the best teams of the Calm and average is
(23:43):
sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And he's the man.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So imagine when he plays. I don't even who they're
playing this week, but whoever they are, he's you know,
he's going to do a job and get you maybe
seventy eighty.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Points they're playing the Eels, ah ninety or one hundred points. Yeah, exact, exactly.
Cells I think so far along as a cell.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, he came off the bench at the last minute
last week, which meant he only got thirty three points.
Pretty impressive considering it's off the bench.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, definitely, And he's an impressive player.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
He's great.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
However, there has been whispers nurl Physio tweeted out earlier
today or maybe it was last night, that Poppenhausen is
a chance to maybe miss out this round.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh really dealing with just a little niggle. However, I
think let me, just double check this. This is just
the problem with that is why not trade him to Sharp,
make money and then increase one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
So if you've still got far a long more wait
and see. So they are playing. The issue is that
they are playing I think Sunday night Melbourne. Yeah, and
so if they roll him out at last minute, you've
got to wait right until the Saturday night actually, so
it's not too far off, just after the Warriors game,
third game of the night. So if you've got far
along more. The good thing about him is he is
(24:48):
sent to wing eligible. Yeah, so what you could do
is bring Sharpen and just bump him up to one
of your shitty center wings and just keep an eye
and then if Pappenhausen is out, you could get one
more game of him at fallback for the Melbourne Storm
against the Raiders who had an absolute score put on
them by the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
It's a luxury though, to be able to do that,
it's very specific. You have to be in a good situation.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, otherwise dump on because what one week left? He's
been great?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
But yeah, do you really want to be playing? Is
that the game you want to be playing? Yeah? Fuck?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I hope Sowis starts and then goes gang buses. Yeah,
I don't know, blay Stelong. If he's still on your roster,
I reckon, now's the time to get rid of him.
He's been playing well, the scores haven't been bad, but
he's six hundred and five thousand dollars and the Eels suck.
The Eels a bottom of the table, and I know
they're getting players back, and Mitch Moses just broke whatever
record in Origin.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just still look at that Eels team and think
they suck.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I think if if Gatho goes down again, Untilo, he
goes to fall back sweet Yeah. Outside of that, I'm like, but.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I wouldn't hold on to him on the off jut
absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
In fact, what I'd probably do is i'd enough him out, Yeah,
because it's just getting to the point of the season
where you kind of need to just like one of
your two rfs, enough of them out, one of your
center wings, nothing out, which is bringing in a non
playing bottom dollar player and just bankle that cash man. Yeah,
and then all of a sudden you can go ham
on like a val Homes or someone that you know
that yeah, haven't got or whatever, dude.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
You've been watching all season, Ben, like I wish I
had that though, exactly enough, one of your boys out
and then just splash out, treat yourself captains for this week?
Is anybody not captaining to Disco. I'm captaining to Disco.
The only issue with him is, well, actually it's good
he plays the last game of the round against his
old team, the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah. I'm not gonna again.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm not going to get into the dark art so
the vice captain, lope, I'm gonna stuff that one up.
So I'm just sitting and forgetting him as captain. The
good thing about this is my vice captain is Necho Hines.
I've got him still. He's playing the first game of
the round, which means I have the entire weekend to
make your decision to hopefully if he scores one hundred
(26:53):
and fifty plus, hopefully remember to do the switch. Because
that's the issue is I always forget, and it always
so Yeah, I'm like you, I try to avoid it,
but you know, Nico, first game of the round, Teddy,
last game of the round, you can't really go wrong. Yeah, okay,
I agree with you. I don't think anyone would be
captaining not captaining Teddy, And I would say that there's
a couple of different ways you can look at it,
(27:14):
Like do you want to go point a difference captain
to try and beat other people because everyone else is
going to be captaining him?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I kind of think no.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I would just be like, look, I'm going to captain
him because everyone else is, so if he fails to fire,
at least he didn't fire for anyone else. That was
a piece of advice.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I was listening to a podcast a few weeks back
of a guy who won it, and he was just like,
just captain who everyone else is captaining, and then use
your other positions to make up the difference, to make
up the difference, because the last thing you want to
do is miss out on a guy like and also,
it's Teddy against the Tigers. Who else are you going
to captain that's possibly going to score more than he is?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
This is a ridiculous situation. And if you captain him
and you were wrong, at least you were wrong for
the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yes, And if he gets high shotted and gets five points,
everyone is in the same bar.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
All good, So yeah, lock in titty captain, titty captain,
and then who cares about vice captain because it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you could win your match up that week,
but you could definitely fuck yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah. Absolutely all right, I think we'll knock that on
the head for this week.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay. Enjoy your weekend of football, Enjoy the commentary Saturday
five pm Pantsman Die Henwood as well. We'll be back
on Monday for another episode of the Mad Monday Podcast,
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