Another Round

Another Round

Heben Nigatu and Tracy Clayton cover everything from race, gender and pop culture to squirrels, mangoes, and bad jokes, all in one boozy show.


December 27, 2017 61 min
Join us for our second annual Kwanzaa Spectacular, live at the Bell House in Brooklyn, NY!  First, NPR Code Switch host Gene Demby brings us some forgotten Kwanzaa principles.  Then MacArthur Genius and New York Times investigative reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones celebrates the silver linings of 2017.  And later, DJ extraordinaire Donwill serenades us with some Kwanzaa carols.  Plus a Kwanzaa tale, Drunken Debates, some special guests...
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We get our tarot cards read and make an announcement about our future.  

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    This week, writer and editor Dodai Stewart chats with us about everything from Korean dramas to dating in New York to iPhone games to drug stores in different countries, and more.  Come for insightful commentary on the state of digital media, stay for the puns.
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    December 6, 2017 75 min
    With the holiday season comes more awkward conversations with family, so we're bringing you an encore episode of our first ever call-in show where you, dear listeners, share with us how you're talking gender, race, politics, and more with your parents, aunties, in-laws, step-siblings, nephews, and more. And guess what: it's really hard! And messy! And you're not alone! We also got our homie Gene Demby of NPR's C...
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    Janelle James stops by the stude to chat with us about her new comedy album, Black and Mild, and we plan Girls Trip 2.  Then we bring you an encore episode featuring an interview with Janelle, the debut of a segment called White Devil's Advocate, and Stacy's Career Corner (during which Tracy finds an unexpected Google result...!).

    And come to our Kwanzaa Spectacular live at the Bell House at 8pm on December 8th - get your ...

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    This week, we bring to you our conversation with living legend, Jenifer Lewis.  You know her from your favorite sitcoms like Fresh Prince, Girlfriends, and most recently, Black-ish, as well as iconic films like What’s Love Got to Do With It? (playing Angela Bassett’s mother), The Preacher’s Wife (as Whitney Houston’s mom), and Poetic Justice (as Tupac’s mom).  She has a new memoir out, fittingly called The Mother of Black Hollywood...
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    This week, professional rabble-rouser Stacy-Marie Ishmael is back in the stude with Stacy's Career Corner. She responds to a range of listener questions, from what to do when you're labelled a "feminazi" at work, to how to handle white male bosses with unchecked power. Plus, we discuss sexual harassment, #MeToo, and fighting back.
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    This week, we bring you our first ever live show from Toronto!  BuzzFeed writer Scaachi Koul reads from her memoir, One Day We'll All Be Dead and None of This Will Matter, then tells us about her trip to the Juggalo March, her DMs from The Rock, and her obsession with Danielle Steele.  Plus, artist Maria Qamar aka HateCopy delves into the colorful world of auntie archetypes that she features in her new book, Trust No Aunty, and...
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    November 2, 2017 40 min
    We're thrilled to introduce a new podcast hosted by friends-of-the-show Bim Adewunmi and Nichole Perkins. In this inaugural episode, they examine the charms of Southern men. With a little help from Nichole’s friend Cynthia Harris, they jumpstart the conversation looking at the very juicy André 3000 before sifting through portrayals of the South in film and TV. Plus: a battle for fanfiction supremacy in Fanfic Wars—vote early an...
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    This week, writers and friends of the show Bim Adewunmi and Nichole Perkins tell us about their brand new podcast, Thirst Aid Kit.  They talk Comic-Con, Jeff Goldblum, and why thirst - for women of color in particular - is both fun and important.  
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    This week, we bring you an encore episode featuring the return of Men Gotta Do Better (you know how males be), a Southern phrase quiz, and an interview with Tatyana Fazlalizadeh, the artist behind the Stop Telling Women To Smile street art project.  
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    This week, we bring you an encore episode featuring Tracy's Animal Corner, Six Degrees of Housing Segregation with Gene Demby of NPR's Code Switch podcast, and an interview with investigative reporter extraordinaire and MacArthur Genius Award winner Nikole Hannah-Jones.  If you're interested in pigeons, pumpkin spice, and affirmative action, this episode is for you.  
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    When we found out Los Angeles wasn't hosting any awards shows when we'd be in town (rude), we decided to throw our own - enter, "The Sauce Awards," where we celebrate renaissance woman Quinta Brunson, internet hero Victor Pope Jr., and the one and only Amber Rose!  Quinta talks about her collaboration with Shondaland in the age of Trump, Victor reveals the inspiration for his use of props on Vine, and Amber talks Sl...
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    In honor of Mental Health Awareness Week, we celebrate nature and the rejuvenating qualities of going outside.  Writer Rahawa Haile talks to us about hiking the Appalachian Trail (yup, the whole damn thing) and Kelvin Peña aka Brother Nature himself describes the origins of his YouTube-famous Deer Squad.  Plus, Tracy's mom Velva stops by the stude to tell us about an infamous family fishing trip. 

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    This week, Brittany Luse and Eric Eddings of the Gimlet podcast, The Nod, join us for a spirited PewPewPew session.  Brittany comes clean about her longtime use of transitions lenses, Eric explains whether or not casseroles are "good for the blacks," and we all celebrate the literary genius that is Zane.  
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    On this week's episode, we bring you our first international live show ever!  We went to London for the Shout Out Live Podcast Festival where we sang the praises of British television (namely Tracy's newfound favorite show, "Embarrassing Bodies").   Then we chatted with writer Bolu Babalola about the beauty of creating dark-skinned black women characters in her stories, and actor Susan Wokoma (of "Chewing Gum...
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    September 6, 2017 33 min
    This week we bring you some bonus material celebrating over 100 episodes of Another Round!  First, our fabulous Production Fellows aka Fellies, Agerenesh Ashagre and Alex Laughlin, surprise us with some listener stories.  Then we share with you a special edition of PewPewPew, guessed!  And keep listening till the end if you want to hear the evolution of a very integral part of the show...!
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    August 30, 2017 66 min
    This week we celebrate our 101nst episode!  That's right, the 101nst.  Having made over 100 episodes, we wanted to take some time to reflect on where we've been, what we've learned, and how our airhorn noises have improved (tremendously).  Join us as we interview some very special guests (their names rhyme with Shmeben and Shmacy), and share with you some of our favorite moments from the show.  And we didn't have sp...
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    This week, we're bringing you our wide-ranging conversation with the one and only LeVar Burton.  He tells us the life lesson he learned from Dr. Maya Angelou while working on Roots, what he wishes he could say to Star Trek writers about his character Geordi La Forge, and how his love of reading led him to Reading Rainbow in the past, and his new podcast Levar Burton Reads in the present.  Be forewarned: he just might scandalize...
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    This week, we take some time to process what happened in Charlottesville, and talk about how to persevere in the age of emboldened white supremacy. 

    Then we chat with April Ryan, the National Association of Black Journalists' "Journalist of the Year," on twenty years spent in the White House press briefing room. We check in with Vice News DC Bureau Chief Shawna Thomas and BuzzFeed political reporter Darren Sands about h...
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