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January 22, 2025 36 mins
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:02:17) The Great Flattening Explained
(00:05:37) Blaming Middle Managers
(00:10:00) The Role of Middle Managers
(00:15:20) Risks of Flattening Organizations
(00:20:10) Case for Middle Management
(00:25:29) Redefining Middle Management
(00:33:11) Radical Candor Tips
(00:35:07) Conclusion

What happens when you gut the glue holding your team together.

Is middle management really dead weight, or are we cutting off the wrong limb? In this episode, Amy and Jason take on the hype around “The Great Flattening” and call out the risks of gutting the layer that keeps organizations running smoothly. Sure, middle managers have their flaws—what role doesn’t? But eliminating them entirely isn’t the brilliant shortcut some leaders think it is. They dig into how this trend often creates chaos, undermines team engagement, and leaves critical gaps in communication and strategy. Spoiler: quick fixes and vague promises of efficiency don’t replace the value of solid leadership and strong relationships. With sharp insights and actionable advice, this conversation is a wake-up call for anyone buying into the flattening trend without a second thought. Skeptical? Maybe. But sometimes you need a little tough love to see what’s really at stake.

Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.

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