Guided with Laura Lynne Jackson

Intuitive Laura Lynne Jackson joins Chelsea to talk about universal intelligence, signs from our loved ones who’ve gone before us, and how we’re all interconnected in ways we may never know. Then: A new mom seeks contact with the husband and daughter she lost.  A couple struggle with their desire to pursue a relationship with a surprise sibling.  And a daughter seeks to heal her relationship with her mom, even though she passed away. But are the signs already there?

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, guys, the High and Mighty Tour is about to begin.
Tour starts on February thirteenth, everybody, DC, I will see
you there to jump things off. February fourteenth, Atlantic City,
which I just added, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan, Cleveland, Columbus,
and Cincinnati, Ohio, Denver, Colorado, Portland, Maine, Providence, Rhode Island, Springfield, Massachusetts.

(00:23):
April third, which is in Rohnert Park, California. That has
just been added. Chicago, of course, Indianapolis, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Albuquerque, Masa, Arizona,
Kansas City, Missouri, Saint Louis, Missouri, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Nashville, Tennessee, Charlotte,
North Carolina, Durham, North Carolina. May sixth, I'm doing Netflix

(00:45):
as a Joke festival. I will be in Los Angeles.
That is a new announcement. Saratoga, California, Monterey, California, Modesto, California,
and port Chester, New York, Boston, Massachusetts, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington.
I will be touring from February through June. Go to

(01:06):
Chelseahandler dot com for tickets. If you want to come
see me perform. I will be on the High and
Mighty Tour.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea. How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh good?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
We just came back from a helly ski trip that
was really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh so, are you like dropping out of the helicopter
into the snow.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yes, yes, basically, but you're not jumping out in your skis.
You jump out of the helicopter and then the guide
has your skis in like a little basket on the side,
so it's quite dramatic. Actually, you have to like sit
there and get down while the helicopter takes off, and
then snow swirls around and you're on the top of
a fucking mountain once he leaves, so then you have

(01:47):
to ski down and you have no choice.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
There are times I worry about your physical safety.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
And there are times where I worry about my physical safety.
I was with my whistler starting for We went to
Bellacoola Helley skiing. It was just so ridiculous and fun,
and we shot my birthday video and I definitely got hypothermia,
so there's that. And then we tore the lodge up.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
We were there.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
It was like being on safari, but in snow and
We had one day where we couldn't ski because of weather,
so that led to drinking and you know other things,
and we just really tore that place apart. And I
just want to say thank you to Bellakula because they
invited us and it was a home run of a trip.
And now I'm getting ready to go home to start.

(02:30):
I'm going home for LA so I can pack for
my tour and I start this weekend with DC, Atlantic
City and Virginia.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, you're doing a bunch of traveling these are you going?
You're not going to the Olympics, are you?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
No, I'm not going to the Land.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I gotta pop.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
By this time, I know you had mentioned it was
you had threatened it could happen.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, I'm going to go for my birthday. I've decided
to go to Finland and I'm gonna Yes, I'm going
to go ski under the northern lights hopefully or we're
going to see the northern lights. I'm going with one
of my man friends, my only man friend, I shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Say one of my only current man friends, my.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Current cowboy man friend. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's excellent. I'm so excited for you. How are you?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
What's happening?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I'm good. I'm feeling better. You know, penetration is back
in actions, so oh wow, Yeah, things are doing great.
My marriage is wonderful good. You know, I don't know
what happened. He's in therapy and like he's just been
so patient with me lately.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's really nice. I gotta talk you nice. That's a
man in therapy. Green flags all around.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
We love to see it.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, if we could only just get every man in therapy,
then we'd be all set and every woman obviously, but
I think men have a lot more to work out,
and they do.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
They need the upgrade as you have, as you have
called it. I'm so excited about our guest today. She
is just a wonderful human being.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Our guest today is an author, teacher, speaker, and psychic medium.
Her newest book is called Guided, The Secret Path to
an Illuminated Life, which is out now. Please welcome, my
very Are you good friend, Laura Lynn Jackson? Okay, yay,
we're here with Laura Lynn Jackson. You guys. She has
a new book out. It's called Guided, The Secret Path

(04:09):
to an Illuminated Life. She's a New York Times bestselling
author also signs. She wrote signs from the universe.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Right, the special language of the universe.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
The secret language signs, the secret language of the universe.
You've got it, okay, Laura Lyn Jackson has I've been
friends with you for probably fifteen fifteen years. I talk
about you on this podcast all the time. You've helped
me in so many times in my life. I remember
when I broke up with Joe Coy. I called her
to see like if it was a permanent breakup or

(04:38):
if it was a temporary breakup. And first of all,
you're so comforting, but she always she said, this is
really about you taking your highest path possible. She said,
so any anger, anything you feel, just I just want
you to rise up, like this is not about you know,
reacting or or getting angry or you know. Of course

(05:00):
I was upset at the time, but she gave me
the most powerful advice. Because I literally took that to
heart every single day. I was like, I am above
I am above the noise of this. I am going
to rise above this and act with grace and dignity
and not talk badly about anybody or say anything negative.
And then she said, and you're going to hear from him,

(05:21):
And she gave me a three day window, like six
months from that point. She gave me a three day window,
and she goes, you're going to hear from him in
that three day window six months later, which by the time,
by that point, you know, I had forgot about it.
But in that time I didn't hear from him, but
I did hear from someone very close to him about

(05:44):
him in that timeframe. And that's just one of the
times that you have been so dead on about stuff
with me. And we have a lot of mutual friends
who you've helped too. And then there's other example that
I want to share is I was going through a
really difficult time when I started getting back going to
stand up, like selling my specials for I did my
first one with HBO. Then I was shopping the second

(06:06):
one and everyone was passing on it and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
what do you mean you're passing on me? Like I
feel like I'm like legends, Like what I'm like, wait, wait, wait,
nobody thanks, nobody wants my special. I couldn't believe it,
and I called you, and I was so upset. I'm like,
maybe my career is over. This is like four or
five years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's like the one that you self produced and everything.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I paid for it, and then I ended up
paying for it and then I was like, I'll just
sell it once it's made. And Laura said to me
and Netflix had passed on it. Netflix said we don't
we can't afford Chelsea's Special or something like that, which
was whatever and I and I was like, well, I've
got to get it on a platform. And Laura goes,
Netflix is going to change their mind and they're going

(06:48):
to come back around, and I said, they've already passed
and she said they're going to come back around and
guess what. Out of the blue, Netflix called and said,
we want to buy your special. So two examples out
of a million. So anyway, thank you and welcome to
the podcast.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Thank you so much for having men here. I just
love being in conversation with you.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well, you're the best. I mean, you've helped so many people.
You're such a warm and fuzzy person to have in
your life. You have such maternal energy and you have
such like divine, feminine, if you will, energy, and it's
always very it comes from such a sincere place and
it comes from such a place of love, and I
know you and I know that you have the gift.

(07:27):
So while there are many people who claim to have gifts,
I think many people do actually naturally have, you know, intuitiveness,
And it's about we all do kind of honing your skills, right,
like really understanding how to Like if you practice something
multiple times and for years, you're going to get good
at that. And that's what you've done once you realize
that you had a gift because you were in a

(07:47):
completely different career.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes I was.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
I was a teacher. Yeah, school English teacher.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
And high school English teacher. And how did you know
that's something that you needed to head in a different direction.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yeah, I had no intention of leaving teaching. I actually
loved it. I just felt so connected to all the students.
I felt so fulfilled by it. It was just the
most loving environment. I got to talk about literature and
like inner struggles and outer struggles and inner victories and
outer ones and all of that. Right, and this ability
that I had just got so pronounced. After I had

(08:19):
my first daughter, and I just started volunteering for an
organization called Forever Family Foundation in secret, right, and I
would just try and help people in grief, and then
I volunteered to do a certain evening event and people
from my school found out about it and we're like,
is this you? And my husband's like, you have to
go tell the principle. You might need to stop doing this.
So I did tell the principle, but she was super

(08:40):
supportive and loving about it. And shortly after that, I
went and I sat on my hall duty and I
got this insane download from the universe. It was like
a seven hour conversation that took place in a millisecond,
and they said to me, you're going to be writing
a book. You're going to go be a teacher of
this in the world, You're going to go be a speaker.
This is going to go on TV. And I thought like, whoa.
So when I get downloads like that, it's not an ask,

(09:02):
it's not a question, it's not a discussion, it's an absolute.
So I came home and I told my husband. I
was like, I'm gonna be writing a book and I'm
gonna doing this, and he knows enough about this where
he's like, Okay, let's embrace that. And within twenty four
hours everything started lining up where I had somebody offering
to be my agent, somebody offering to help, like with
the writing process. It was an amazing It was such

(09:24):
a beautiful nod from the universe, and so I wrote
my first book. I took a leave of absence from teaching,
and the moment I hit send on my first book
to my editor, which you know, to share an editor
Julie Grouse. She's amazing Julie Grouse and now Whitney Frick.
I thought, of whom are so amazing, right, they are
incredible editors, incredible people. But I hit send and I

(09:46):
got a download for Signs, my second book, right, and
I thought, okay, wow. I asked for an extended leave
of absence and they're like, nope, you need to come
back or you need to resign. And I had no
idea what to do. So I waited for what I
call my knowing and it took a while, and one
day about I say, I got that directive from my

(10:08):
district in February. And in July, mid July that year,
I woke up from just being asleep and I had
absolute clarity that I was leaving teaching, and I was
really sad and at the same time really happy. So
I sent him my notice at that point, and that's
my story. Like I trust my journey. I think teaching
was such a beautiful career for me, but I think

(10:30):
what I'm doing here, I'm still teaching, and this is
my calling. And I think it's so important to go
really quiet sometimes within yourselves and find out what your
soul is tugging you, to find out what you're being
guided to, because there are all different paths we can
take care like what you were just talking about when
you and Joe broke up and you took this beautiful
high path, like your highest path possible, in being so

(10:52):
light filled and just being so pure in your own
way of being. What you did in that moment you
modeled for countless other people how to be so grounded
in your own light in the midst of.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Us and to break up them and to be vulnerable
when I was heartbroken, to be vulnerable and not try
to pretend anything else other than the reality was going on,
which is something that you know, if you hadn't said
that to me, I would have just protected myself and
not shared anything. You know I was, and I was like, oh, yes,
and you are one of the only people that I

(11:26):
can hear talk about the universe and not want to
throw up because I understand what this book is, which
is a beautiful recollection of so many people's stories and
anecdotes about them receiving messages from people who they love
that loss. But when you really tune in to you,
what you taught me is that when you really tune

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in to the universe and really accept the fails or
the misses without letting it knock you over and just go, well,
that's not meant to be. Literally, it's it's not meant
to be, and let it go, then everything starts coming
together in a much more universal way. You see the

(12:07):
sign You see the signs, you know, like when you
accept and you move into acceptance of any situation, everything
starts to become easier.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
It's so true when you surrender that. And I think
things that don't work out for us are profound lessons too,
and they they build us and they shift us and
they create us. But I want to say, too, when
you were so willing to show your authenticity and vulnerability
to everybody you were guiding people, here's the thing. We
are all intertwined, like all our lives matter and all

(12:40):
affect one another, and so What a great platform that
was for everybody to witness your grace, your power, your
light because it informed them on their own journeys. Right, yeah,
so beautiful.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
And I remember the next day because I had done
glennon Doyle's and Abby's podcast we could Do Hard Things,
and I just let it rip on that and I
woke up the next morning and there were literally four
thousand dms from people, I believe it saying thank you
so much for being honest about your breakup, thank you
for being vulnerable, and that in itself. Reading all of
those dms was just healed me, Like I was healed.

(13:14):
I was like, oh, I just put out my honesty
and I got back like a whole big hug from
the universe. So I'm we're going to say universe a
lot in this episode, you guys, so bear with us.
And then I will say, you know, with all my
house drama that I've talked about on this podcast and
all that mess, I definitely have shifted out of that
energy phase. I've now understood like I had to go

(13:36):
to my Orca, I had to be alone, I had
to not drink for a few weeks, eat healthy workouts.
But when I called her, which was more than once
about this house. I was like, Laura, what is the lesson?
Why is this going on with so much money? So
I'm never I don't have a home. It's been four years.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
It felt so.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Taken advantage of. And what did you tell me? Every
time I don't know what it is, you told me.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
That's funny. You told me for me, it comes through me.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
She said, this is me, She said repeatedly, this is
not your lesson. This is someone, This is not your dharma.
You're just here as a vessel. This is not your lesson.
And I'm like as a vessel, and she said, because
you a you can get through this. You can afford
all of this, so it's better like it's happening to
you because you can absorb it. And and it's not

(14:26):
about you. It's about other people within this situation lessons.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
And what they were navigating or not doing a good
job navigating, right.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
And the first time I didn't hear you, I was like,
that doesn't make any sense. And then the second time
I did, because I was in my Orca and we
spoke briefly will audio message back and forth, and she
said it and it clicked because I was in a
space to hear it where I was finally calm and relaxed,
and I was like, this isn't the end of the world,
you know. Okay, So I want to talk about one
of the stories in your introduction, which is about a doctor,

(14:56):
and so I want you to tell us this story
the book with this beautiful universal connection between two souls.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Yeah, so tell us the story. So the book opens
with a really quick snapshot of two stories. It's like,
I want to tell you two stories. The first is
takes place in nineteen eighty one, and it's a doctor
who has a premature little baby he's caring for, and
there's a fifty to fifty chance this baby may survive.
But this doctor is so committed he just stays overnight.

(15:26):
He doesn't sleep, He's so focused on willing this little
baby to live. And the baby does live. That's the
first happy story. The second story takes place thirty years later,
and there's a man driving an SUV down the highway
in California and suddenly semi tractor truck comes out of
nowhere slams into him his car. His SUV's pinned against

(15:50):
the wall and it catches fire. He can't get out,
but so luckily there are paramedics coming back from a
call nearby, and they just happen to be there at
the right time, and they extinguish the fire, they get
the jaws of life, get him out, and the man lives.
But the thing is, it's not two separate stories. It's
the same one. Because the man in the suv is

(16:12):
the doctor Michael Shannon, who had saved the premature baby's life,
and the EMT who saves him is Chris Troki, the
premature baby whose life he had saved thirty years before.
And that is just a really quick snapshot of the
magic that exists, the interconnectedness of all our lives, because
if that's true for them, it's true for all of

(16:32):
us that one just happens to be one we can
look at and see really clearly in hindsight how profound
those connections are. But I think for all of us,
you know, the other side has told me that we
all save other people's lives, and we're none the wiser
until we cross one day do our life review and
then we're like, oh my gosh, I did that. So

(16:53):
our own view of our own lives and what we
deem is success or failures of what we're really doing
here is so my eyes, but it's so limited. We
don't have the whole picture.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And that's yes, that's something worth pausing on and highlighting,
because we all get so caught up, especially in the
society in which we live today. We get so caught
up in the moment. I know I do. I'm so
guilty of it, of getting small when I should be,
you know, higher, Like I want to be the cloud.
I don't want to be the storm. I want to
be the cloud.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
But no, that's grand, and.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's so important to remember, like everything does seem to
work out, you know what I mean, Like for the
most part, everything does seem to work out. And when
you subscribe to this theory that she's talking about, like
I love when you talk about life reviews in the
afterlife and that there is an afterlife, and that when
people send you messages like I remember asking you this

(17:46):
question being confused, and I think from reading this book
I figured it out if someone's in the afterlife, like
if my mom is sending me oranges, which is my
symbol with my mom. If my mom is sending me oranges,
then is she also has she been reincarnate, because how
did she have time to be in the afterlife? If
she's in the if she's being you know, And then
I'm like, well, wait, if we're believing in all of that,

(18:06):
then people can be everywhere at the same time. That
doesn't mean that she's not here. That just means she's
still with me.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
You got it, right, That's so true. And our concept
here of time is so linear. It's like this canvas
that moves forward. On the other side, time doesn't really exist,
and our soul energy is always really there. We're never
separate from each other, from those we love. This is
more like a virtual reality we beam into. And these
brains are really just like dunce caps, you know. They're
not the source of our consciousness. They're like limiting our

(18:35):
consciousness so that we can't remember all the truths that
we know.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, and there's a section of the book where you
talk about the Telepathy Tapes podcast that's about autistic children
and how they have gifts they have, you know, some
of their perceptions and their abilities are like if you
can't speak, that would heighten the rest of your other senses,
you know, theoretically, right, And I think that's kind of
like in the chapter you talk about showing a number

(19:00):
behind like is it a window or Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
What the research started with was doctor Diane Hennessy pal
started researching autistic savants who seemingly could calculate like these
incredible digits.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Just like that.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
But in time, as she researched, she realized what was
going on was that these children who were savants were
actually telepathically seeing the number that their caregiver had on
a calculator. They weren't calculating that they were reading the
person's mind. And then that research led into understanding that
these these children, many of who are nonverbal, so they're spellers,

(19:36):
which means they use an alphabet board to communicate, or
sometimes they type, or some can be verbal. They shared
that not only are they telepathic with the people they love,
like their mom, their dad, their teachers, but with each
other and their mediums. So they're in communication with people
who are no longer in a physical body and getting
all sorts of messages at all times.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
So, like, even so in this study, and if you've
ever listened to that podcast Telepathy Daves, have you, Yeah,
I listened to a few episodes of that because it's
like in the study, you could write down a number
on a board, you cannot show the number, and just
because the person is thinking that number and wrote it down,
the kid can knows exactly what it is before it's
even just because the thought is out there. So it's like,

(20:18):
you know, I mean, what is that called?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Are they like telematic yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Or topic yeah? And are they.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Tapping into like universal intelligence? So it's interesting, like it
seems to be that they know all sorts of things
that they were never taught about history, they know great
works of literature that they've never read. And what they've
shared is that when they go to this place they
call the hill, which is very similar to where I
go when I read. And actually I did some work

(20:45):
with one of the girls and she took me to
the hill, which was fascinating. But there are people who
lived here on earth who were great thought leaders or
writers or change agents who are still so invested in
our world, in helping us. And it's those people, and
it's all that knowledge that exists and they can download
in a millisecond. So it's fascinating. They know so much
and they've experienced so much. They actually if they're let's

(21:09):
say the girl that I've worked with, her name's Amelia.
Her mom listened to signs on her earbuds like Amelia
couldn't have hurt at all. And Amelia knew everything from
the book and said she wanted to meet the cool
book lady because she had heard all and felt my
energy through the book. It's fascinating how these things unfold,
and what it really shows is how interconnected we all

(21:30):
are all.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
The time, right, and maybe just can't see it, yeah,
but it makes you want to hone those skills, yeah,
like to really tune into other people, to know that
even if you're having a thought, like if you're having
a negative thought, that that affects the energy in the room.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
You nailed it.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
You nailed it.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
What I have come to understand from all the research
I've done, and I do really deep dives on like
quantum research and what this means and thoughts are energy
their light energy, and every single thought we have either
puts more light into the world or more darkness. It
is an energy exchange, that's it. So what do we
do when we have like negative thoughts too, because that's
a very real state of being human. We catch ourselves.

(22:09):
We recognize that we're having them, and we talk over
them gently with positive thoughts. You know, if you wake
up and you're like, today's gonna be the worst day,
blah blah blah, you have to catch yourself and go like, actually, no,
today and being alive here on Earth school is a gift.
And I'm so excited to see what my team of
Light unfolds for me, the people, the experiences, the situations

(22:29):
that are going to be brought into my path. And
I hope that I just keep my mind and heart
open to recognize the spiritual gift in it. Yeah, that's
all you do.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
And a fun game also is when you have a
negative thought is to like flip it upside down, like,
oh god, I can't believe I have to go deal
with this, and you're like, how fun is this going
to be? You know, like you kind of play a
game until you and then you're kind of amusing yourself.
You're like, Okay, let's see, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I can make out there.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, what a fun adventure to go, you know, deal
with my contractor again?

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Fun, Like, what a fun challenge?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
This is exciting. Maybe this will be our last meeting,
you know, that that kind of attitude really does change
the vibration. And when you talk about so Laura talks
all the way, I mean she's just the term teams
of light, Like we all have a team of light?
Does everyone have a different Everyone obviously has a different
team of light. Does anyone like any of these light
workers work for multiple team I mean, I'm working on

(23:23):
multiple teams.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
It's so interesting Sometimes I suspect there are teams of
light that have been brought here on earth and that
our guides kind of work together and know each other
because I've seen like collective energy is so much more
powerful than individual So when we connect with others, that
we come together in a cause or have an idea
of like how we want to help others, and then
we get other people on board. It's this expansive, expansive light.

(23:46):
So everybody's team of light is three parts, right, The
thing we all share is the God energy part. I
see God as this force of just love and connection
that's inherent in our beings and guiding us every single day.
And the real lesson there is love like always default
to love, right, and our true currency is forgiveness, gratitude, empathy, kindness,

(24:08):
so if you're not exercising those things, you're not choosing
your love path right, and you're distancing yourself a little bit.
But the second and third part of everybody's teams a
light are different. The second part is what I call
spirit guides, what throughout time and history religions have called
guardian angels. It's a concept of these advanced angelic beings
who guide us, and we each have spirit guides. They're

(24:28):
very unique to us. They're nobody we knew this lifetime.
They're advanced angelic beings that our souls contracted with before
we came here to Earth school to kind of guide
us and lead us and you know, get us on
our highest path. And I think some people have this
really acute awareness, like they've done meditations or they've had
dreams or visions and they're like, I know what my
guide looks like and this is his name, And other
people are like, yeah, I don't even know. I just

(24:50):
kind of feel, you know, sometimes thoughts are put in
my mind or I'm I have got feelings like that's
how your team of light's going to communicate. And then
the third part is anybody who loved who's crossed includ
pets and also including ancestors that are in your lineage
who you might not have met. They are all loving you,
guiding you, invested in your journey. It's really beautiful.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
So what about the people that are households? Seriously? Like,
what about terrible people?

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Right, well, so let's put.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Them in two different categories. Because there's like the a
whole people who are just like not getting their lessons,
making everybody's life annoying, right, being really stubborn and stuck.
And then there are people who come and do like
really dark evil things. And like usually the people who
come and do really dark, terrible things, there's one thing
they have in common, and it's a misunderstanding of what
true power is. Right, Because what the other side has

(25:38):
taught me is what true power is. It's not about
having power over somebody, manipulating people, making people bow down
to you, being like, look what I have and you don't.
I control this. It's not about control, It's not about
any of that. True power is finding the gifts you
came here with, Right, we each have this like light
and gift within us, honoring them, sharing them with others

(26:00):
to help elevate others to find their gifts and share them.
So there's this ripple effect, this domino effect of light
in the world, and true power is learning that all
ships rise with the tide. It's learning that what we're
really here for is to be empathetic to one another.
Is what happens to one person happens to you. Because
when you leave here and you're not in a physical body,

(26:21):
you download everybody else's experiences instantly. We all do become
one in this kind of greater consciousness, so you can
understand and feel something that someone else went through their
entire life. So I think that we need to really
understand the difference between those two forms of power. So
now let's back it up. What happens to the relatives
who's just made your life really hard? You know, was

(26:43):
very judgmental, and now is on the other side, that
person does a life review, and I can tell you
from all these readings I've done, they will show up
immediately and ask for you to forgive them because that's
part of their soul path. There is always accountability on
the other side. When we do our life review, it
doesn't take place in real time, right, it's instant, and

(27:04):
in that instant we relive everything, not just from our
own perspective, but from the people we were interacting with
and how we made them feel. We also understand like
how we affected others, what our energy on earth here
did the light it left, how it's still you know,
playing out in the world's beautiful and so there's accountability
that happens. So I'm not saying that when you cross

(27:25):
the other side you have to spend time with the relatives,
who is awful, right, But I am saying that they're
going to greet you and say that they're sorry, and
then maybe they'll be in a different you know, apartment level.
You know, it might be in the guess.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
But like someone like Donald Trump who comes in and
just creates havoc, pain, hurt, what what Obviously that person
is missing any sort of in touch, you know, like
spiritual side.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
There's no spirituality there? But what why?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Why do we have to deal with it?

Speaker 5 (27:55):
So I want to I want to let's talk about
like what we're really saying is like, what is the
role of villain?

Speaker 7 (28:01):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (28:02):
So let's talk about Disney movies. Let's roll it back
a little. Did you see Disney movies when you were little?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Right, let's talk about like.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
What is it like one hundred and one Dalmatians. My
kids love that movie, and there is such a villain
in that movie, and it's Cruella de Villa, and she
literally wants to skin these little puppies. I mean, you
don't get darker than that in life, right, So when
children are watching it, when I'm watching it when my
kids were young, Like, what am I learning from the
role of the villain. What do we derive from that? Well,

(28:32):
it's a call to action in our hearts and in
our minds and in our energy. It's about standing up
for the voiceless. It's about finding that you do care
and that you're willing to stand up for somebody else,
not just focused on yourself. It's about being able to
identify when somebody has a false sense of power or

(28:55):
is disengaged from humanity, right. And I think that observation
teaches us about who we are on the inside. It
basically makes us accountable to ourselves.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Because if we were all good, then there would be
no contrasts. Listen, we wouldn't know what good it was.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
And we're all yeah, and we're also on different levels here, right,
So some of us are teachers for each other. Some
of us are healers for each other, and some of
us are like raising our hands on the other side,
being like I'll play the villain so that you can
learn against me, you know, like Fred Rogers said, his
mother used to always make mister Rogers. He said, his
mother used to always say, when great tragedies happen, don't
focus on the tragedy or what was done. Focus on

(29:32):
the helpers that run in. And that's where the meaning
of life is. That's why we're here to love one another,
to make life better for each other, to support one another.
And I think that we maybe have to give a
little grace at times because people get very lost in
the cacophony of what this materialistic world is telling them.
Is success or power are those things, And it might
take a little longer to unpack or on process my

(29:54):
download right now for all of us, because times are
very dark right now, and it can be really upset
and discouraging, and it can make people feel so powerless
to help others. Right what my guides told me, it's
so important right now for us to all tend our
own gardens and do like small acts of kindness however
we can. And they reminded me of the butterfly effect,

(30:15):
which is like we can do one little thing in
the world and it can have the most profound ripple effects.
And if you look at history in reverse, you can
actually trace back, like major historical events to like one
small decision somebody made somewhere, you know. And so I
think that if we're all just focused on our own light,
like we don't focus on the darkness, like don't stare
into the abyss, we focus on whatever gifts we came

(30:38):
here with. We focus on our light, and we focus
with sharing it with others, we can bring about powerful
change and transformation and ways we can't imagine, Like my
guides told me, like smiling at somebody in a coffee
shop on a Monday in New York could save somebody's
life in Africa on a Friday. And that's mind boggling.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
That's the chain of light and goodness.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yes, yeah, and to always choose that. And on that note,
I just want to read it.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Little quote.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
This is from L. R. Nost. This is a quote
in Laura's book Do not be dismayed by the brokenness
of the world. All things break and all things can
be mended, not with time, as they say, but with intention.
So go love intentionally, extravagantly, unconditionally. The broken world waits
in darkness for the light that is you, which says

(31:21):
everything you just said, I mean, encapsulates it all, which
is so true, because it's a great reminder not to
just die in despair and not to ever give up,
like we have a responsibility to shine brighter when the
things get darker.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, you are the light.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
That's the message. We all have that light within.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
And with that, we're going to take a break and
turn the lights back on and we will be right
back with Laura Lynn Jackson. And we're back with Laura
Lynn Jackson. Her new book is called Guided. Make sure
you order a copy stock Actually, go support your local
bookstores and go get a hard copy. Please, people, go
into your bookstores and buy a book. It's called Guided,

(32:04):
The Secret Path to an Illuminated Life, and it's filled
with so many hopeful stories about if you are heartbroken
and you are feeling lost and you've lost someone meaningful.
It is filled with so much comfort about how to
get in touch with your loved ones. And I know
from experience it's worked for me a million times. I
did it most recently in my Orca. I asked my

(32:25):
mom to show me an orange out of place, and
she and I went to tell this story already. I
asked my mom to show me an orange out of place.
And I had lost touch with my mom through this
hell house fiasco and the stress of it all, plus
my menopause. I found out I had no estrogen. A
lot of things were happening, but I'm feeling much better,
and I said, I'm so sorry for not being in touch.

(32:46):
I said to my mom, I'm like, can you just
show me an orange out of place? If it's you know,
everything's okay and we're good and everything is starting the
tides are changing for all of this negativity. And I
went to this artist house to look at her like sculptures,
and she had a huge painting of fruit and she's
a sculptor, not a painter, and she goes, oh, this

(33:07):
is the only She's like, this is the only time
I've ever painted fruit. And guess what. All the fruit
was there and then there was a huge orange out.
I bet the orange had a bite out of it.
And I was like, Oh, that's my mom being like Yeah,
that's my mom calling me at four o'clock in the morning,
going Hi, just checking in. So, yeah, so that was cute.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
That's so powerful.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah. Yeah, so you gave me that gift about that orange,
So whenever I need an orange, I get one. But
it can't be at a grocery store. So you have
to choose like everyone, and this book really takes you
through it. Like for every person, it's different. It's whatever
it means something to you and the person you've lost.
But there is such a comfort in knowing that the
energy isn't gone, and it's not just make believe. It's scientific.

(33:49):
It's scientific that energy doesn't die. It transfers, so it
turns into something else. And they want to tell us
they're okay, you know, they want to get in touch
with us. So you have to be open the idea
of it. Even my two sisters who were a little
bit thought I was a little shady in the beginning.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
With all of this.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, I've come around and they'd be like, I saw
a mom today, you know, she's there was a hummingbird
outside my window. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
But it is so funny too, because there are a
lot of stories in the book where you're talking about
someone who asked for a sign and they get the sign,
they like, can't be that, And then they get the
same sign again and they're.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Like, well maybe it's yes. And there's a third day.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Like I don't believe you. Now I need a dolphin
jumping over a shark. You're like, what.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Right, We're ready for callers? Yeah, I think so right.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Their first caller today is Kayla, and she says, Dear Chelsea,
I love listening to the podcast. I appreciate the guaranteed
laughter and blunt honesty every week. A couple of years ago,
I listened to the Finding Your Highest Path episode with
Laureln Jackson, which led me to read her book Signs.
Ever since I was young, I've always felt a spiritual
connection with the world. I'm now thirty one years old.

(34:59):
I lost my husband when I was twenty four, and
I lost my daughter right after I turned twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Both of their deaths were very tragic.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
After my husband passed, I got signs from him all
the time, but I never really knew if they were
actual signs or just coincidences that I talked up to
being signs.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Once I read Laura's.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Book, I knew I wasn't crazy anymore and the signs
were real, But I still find myself being skeptical, especially
because I don't feel like I get signs from my
daughter like I do my husband. There were so many
things left unsaid between my husband and I since he
died unexpectedly. I feel the signs from him keep us connected,
but it isn't always clear what he's trying to convey.
My daughter was diagnosed with a neuromuscular disease three months

(35:37):
after my husband passed. She lost her ability to talk
right after he died, so there's a lot of things
that went on said with her as well, so many
things I wish I could talk to her about. I
doubt myself as a mother fulfilling her needs. I worry
she wasn't happy with the choices I made for her
when she didn't have a voice. I find myself thinking
maybe that's why I don't get signs from her. My
heart is broken without her and without the signs from her.

(35:59):
My husband and I have two kids together, so it's
been me and my son trying to navigate this crazy
life together. Life is beginning to have color again. I'm
now engaged and have a healthy seven week old baby,
but there are questions still left in answered. I still
feel like a reading from someone like Laurlin Jackson could
change my life and possibly make the connection between me
and my daughter stronger. Or if not from her, how
do I go about finding a psychic medium that's legit? Kayla?

(36:22):
And we've got Kayla here?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Hi, Kayla, Hello, hih you have Laurlyn Jackson right here.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
I know this is amazing.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oh look at you. You're so beautiful and vibrant, and
congratulations on your new baby.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Okay could I jump in?

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (36:43):
All right.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
So, first of all, it's so lovely to meet you.
I'm so sorry for your physical losses of your husband
and your daughter. I have so many things that I
was getting as downloads as you were reading it. The
first thing I want to say is you're carrying a
lot of guilt that doesn't belong to you at all.
So I want to tell you what I was feeling

(37:04):
is as I was listening to your words, was that
you were the most incredible, loving presence for your daughter
while she was here on earth. I also want to
tell you she chose you to be her mom and
she knew, and you knew on a soul level before
you agreed to this, that she would not be here long.
But her lesson was one of love. And this is

(37:26):
really important for you to hear, because for you to
be still here on earth thinking that in any way
you may have failed her is completely untrue. You taught
her the exact lesson her soul needed to feel that
unconditional love, and every choice you made for her care
was made in love, and that is always the highest

(37:50):
path and the right choice. So I think what's going
on is, you know, this frontal lobe of our brain
is where ninety eight percent of our brain with activity
takes place during our daily activity, and it's very chattery
and logical based, and it's also very mean, and it'll
tell us lies about the narrative of our lives and
what we've done. And I think yours has been telling you.

(38:11):
It's been really nitpicking and saying you didn't do this right,
you didn't do that right, rather than focusing on what
a force of love you were and are for her.
Because relationships do not end with bodily death, they actually
get stronger. And I also have this sense, and this
might sound a little odd, but I almost feel like
your husband and she had this sort of soul contract
that he would arrive there before she did and then

(38:33):
greet her. And I think you've had that moment where
that occurred to you, like almost in a spiritual sense,
and then maybe you just dismissed it or pushed it away.
But I think me saying that to you, you already
know that.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
The other thing I.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Want to say is, you know I am never and
a psychic medium is never your loved one's first choice.
They'll come to us and through us because of their
love for you, but it's never what they want. They
want to talk directly to you every single day and
get through to you every day, not like at a
scheduled appointment that's taken this long and for the short
amount of time. You know, think of it like if

(39:05):
you were to go to lunch with your husband and
your daughter right and you're sitting at a table and
then I show up and I'm like, hey, guys, I'm here,
and you can't talk to each other. You'd have to
talk to me and I'll pass along the messages. That's
what it's like. So for you to just open your
mind and heart and recognize that you're already in direct
communication with them, I think is everything. The tools are

(39:25):
within you. You don't need anybody else to do this. That's
where I think it's really important to get over two
major obstacles when it comes to feeling our loved ones
on the other side with us and getting their guidance
and their inspiration, and getting the downloads for them from them,
and seeing their presence in our lives. And the two
obstacles are fear and doubt. So fear is the idea

(39:47):
of like, first of all, I'm afraid I might not
be able to do this, or I'm afraid these abilities
might not exist because the materialistic paradigm we're raised in,
if you can't see it, touch it, taste it, smell,
it's not real.

Speaker 7 (39:58):
Right.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
But the truth is there's unseen energy all around us,
and we are energy and energy and matter even Einstein's
that are interchangeable. So the truth is unseen energy and
energy in general is the only truth of our existence.
We're not really solid beings. The chairs we're sitting on
are not solid. We're just fast vibrating atoms made of
light that appears solid. So when you understand that I
think it's easier to conquer the fear of like this

(40:19):
can't exist because it does. And then the doubt is
the next thing, right, The doubt is when I get
a sign, or when I think I feel my loved
one around me, or when I've had a dream visitation,
or when I have a knowing, or when a thought
comes to me and I feel like it's from my
daughter or my husband on the other side, How do
I trust in it? Because you are locked in this

(40:39):
frontal lobe which is based in logic, so it's always
going to try and reject the spiritual experience and tell
you it's a coincidence. It's not. It's a sign. If
you have that moment where you're like, I think this
was a sign. I think this was a communication from
the other side, it is. And you don't need validation
from anybody for that, you know. My sense is that

(40:59):
I feel your husband and daughter around you so much,
and I even feel them like celebrating so beautifully this
new path of life that you're on and that you
were guided into this next experience that you're having in
this most beautiful way. They want you healed, they want
you whole, They want you engaged in life. They want
you celebrating the force of love that you are in

(41:21):
this world. You know, I think too. And this is
going to sound a little funny, but somebody's going to
be giving you flowers soon, like flowers, and it's really
from them, and it hasn't happened yet, so wait and see.
But when you get them, I think there might even
be like more meaning in whatever the card says or
whatever types of flowers these are. You're going to have
to see, but you're going to understand how beloved and

(41:42):
guided you are. They want you living the best version
of your life. And what your husband on the other
side is telling me is like you're teetering on like
trusting that and diving into it. This is I feel
like this phone call in this letter is that final
moment where it's almost like releasing the helium balloon of
the guilt or the grief for everything you've been holding

(42:03):
on to into the air and knowing that that's what
they want for you in the most beautiful path ahead.

Speaker 8 (42:11):
Okay, that is very, very refreshing to hear.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Definitely, the guilt is part of, you know, what's been
a major thing of what I'm feeling. So it's really
refreshing to hear you say that, the fact that you
know you hit it on the head with him being
there before she was as soon as she got diagnosed,

(42:35):
I felt like that was why that was kind of
the reason why he passed away. He was meant to
be there for her, which made me feel better when
her time came, like her dad was there for her.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
I'm sorry interrupted, just telling me more while you're talking.
I want to bring up two things around your daughter too,
But like you still having your stuffed animal, and also
have you been reading a book to your son? Did
somebody just give you a book for your baby? Like
I'm seeing a children's book. This is why I'm asking.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
I did have someone that message me and ask if
I had a book this morning.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
They messaged you Key said, do you have this book?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Do you have that book?

Speaker 8 (43:10):
And not yet?

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Okay. When you get that book that they're going to
send you, I want you to go to the last
two pages of it. And I don't know what book
this is or what it's going to say about your
daughter's telling me there's a message from her to you
in it, and I want.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
You to read it. Okay, and it will all make sense. Okay, awesome.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And I want to just say something from listening to this, like,
look at how many people got to get your love
in this lifetime.

Speaker 8 (43:35):
Yeah, if you look at.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
That, you got all of this love that you got
to share around and it was all predestined. And your
daughter knew that she was going to be there for
a short time and she chose you. And now you
have another son and you in addition to her, for
some like you and you have a new husband, like
this is you have a lot of love to give
and that's what you're here to do.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, that's definitely a better way of looking at it.
That makes me feel a lot better.

Speaker 8 (44:03):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I need to say one more thing because as you're
saying this too, they love what you just said first
of all, but they also said, please know that moving
forward is not leaving us behind. We come with you.
We're part of it all.

Speaker 8 (44:18):
Thank you so much. That's it.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Really.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Like I said in my message, I knew that being
able to just have that opening, that communication puts me
at ease.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
And you have that within yourself. And I also feel
like sometimes you have this you feel them around you
just feel them around, especially at night when you're going
to sleep, they are right there with you. It's when
you come kind of tune in the most of them.
I mean, they're with you all the time, but that's
when you feel them a lot and they love that.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
No, thank you and way to keep it together during
this phone call, Kayla, because I'm a mess over there
and you're.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
A force of life. Yes, and goodness and love.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
We're sending you lots and lots of love.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Thank you for calling in, Kayla.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
Yes, thank you so much. You guys have a great day.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Thanks you too, Laura.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
How do you not just like cry all of the time?

Speaker 5 (45:08):
You know, it's such an excellent question, right, especially when
it comes to children on the other side. So for me,
the experience, it's so hard to describe, but it's all love.
I feel no sense of loss because I know the
person's not physically here, and I know there's been a
physical loss, but they're so alive and vibrant. It's never
a question for me. It's the most beautiful truth. And

(45:28):
I can feel like their personality, their energy, their love
that comes through me to the person here. So I
can't be sad when I'm feeling so much love.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
That's a nice way to look at it and think
about it. Yeah, yeah, because we always think of loss, loss, loss, grief,
and like instead of grief is love.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah, And you know, just to reiterate what you've said, like,
you don't need a medium. You can have these conversations.
But I will also say my sister she several years
ago actually after the call we had with you, she
went and found someone else from the Forever Family Foundation
where everybody's been vetted and they have all, you know,
really wonderful people working with them, and she actually had

(46:08):
a reading with one of them, and it was it
was one of those things we were talking about before
Chelsea got here, of like it's not it wasn't necessarily
about her, but it was about all these people around her,
and she had messages for like so many people in
her life.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
It was very interesting. Yeah, there are a few things
for her, but yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Yeah, I don't want to ever discredit a mediumship session.
I know how sacred is for me when I do it.
It's just so beautiful to be part of. I just
want everybody to know they don't need.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
It, right, right, you don't need it. You can you know,
talk to.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Somebody, your anti business model, like nobody needs me.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
You got this well.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Our next color is Jessica, and she says, Dear Chelsea,
my mom passed away last year from stage four breast cancer.
We put each other through a lot of trauma over
my lifetime. My daughter and I lived with her for
fiveish years, most of my kid's life, and we weren't
in a good place when she died. Additionally, I had
a serious fight with my younger so after our mom

(47:00):
passed away, she and I haven't spoken since December. I
think because of things she said to me, So I'm
having some tough feelings around that. My daughter was initially
acting out after my mom died, and while that's lessened,
she misses Grandma a lot. Obviously, I have a lot
of complicated feelings about my mom, and it's hard to
know how to help her. I don't have a desire
to talk about my mom, and when she has big

(47:21):
emotions about Grandma, I freeze up and don't know how
to react. I'm usually really good about helping her through
big emotions, but anything to do with my mom is
incredibly difficult for me. All in all, I can't manage
the conflicting feelings of relief and guilt I've been dealing
with the last year. I know Chelsea has a lot
of advice on grief and caring for family. I feel
like I should have been more gracious with my mom

(47:41):
and sister, and if I stop to think about it,
it tears me up. I have been holding off on
submitting because it means I have to talk about it,
but I feel like the universe is telling me to
get over it and try.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Thanks so much, Jessica.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Hi, Jessica, Hi, how are you.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
We're good and you're stuck. You have a blockage. Yeah,
Laura's gonna help you out.

Speaker 7 (48:05):
My internet or my actual want.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
You know you have a blockage my internet? I was
so blockage. We're gonna unblock you.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
Well.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
First, I want to compliment you because by writing in,
that means you're ready to heal. And what I know
about our time here on earth is that the highest
path we can find is forgiveness, empathy, and healing. And
I truly feel that your mom kind of nudged you
to write in and do this because she is ready

(48:35):
to apologize and to thank you. I think when she
was here. This is how I'm getting it. She wasn't
good at that stuff. She was good at demanding stuff
and criticizing and you know, expecting. It's almost like a
sense of entitlement. And I will tell you when she
crossed and did her life review, it was a it
was a lot to take in for her. But I
will tell you I don't have the sense that when

(48:56):
she was here, and this is how she's giving it
to me, it's like she didn't know. She didn't do
it maliciously or on purpose, she was just unevolved and
that the fact that she wasn't evolved led her to
be cruel at times. She wants you to know she
sees you fully now and she celebrates you. She's asking

(49:17):
for your forgiveness, and she says you don't have to
give it right now in front of everybody, but she's
asking for it. She understands that she should have been
the mother and she should have shown up for you emotionally,
and that instead she put you in that role. She
also wants me to tell you she's learning from you

(49:38):
so much about what it means to be a mother
by watching how you mother. She's kind of funny when
it comes to the thing with your sister because she's like, ah,
you're both wrong. It's almost like, you know, like to
not get too caught up in that it'll work itself out.
There's a lot of valid feelings you have, and I

(49:59):
think that when or here on earth, the way you know,
you and your sister are right now, you can kind
of get stuck a little bit and it can be
hard to see the bigger picture, to see what's really
going on. And I have a sense like in time
that's going to work itself out. But she is asking
you to This is the way I would like to
phrase it, default to love. And she says that's actually
how you are in life. You always default to love.

(50:21):
You try and act tough on the outside, but you
always default to love, and you do kind things. Do
animals tend to really like you, by the way, like
the animals come up to you?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Or yes, yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
In fact, we're living with my dad now and one
of their dogs like hates me and I cannot exchange it.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Yeah, you know, it's so funny because I think too,
I want to give you a little you know, puzzle
piece here animals see spirit okay, And I think your
mom's literally been like walking by you this whole time,
and I don't think it's you that the dog's reacting to.
I think the dog's like, wait a minute, what is
going on here? So that could be part of it.

(51:00):
But I feel like your light is very bright and
other people see it even though you try to hide it,
and I think you've had to guard it, especially in
the past with your relationship with your mom, because she
didn't honor it in the right ways, and what was
making you vulnerable and beautiful almost became a perceived weakness
because she wouldn't honor it and she would kind of
take advantage at times, not necessarily on purpose, but just

(51:22):
because of how she was. She is thanking you for
all you did for her and the ways you cared
for her, especially at the end, in spite of how
she acted. And do we lose her. I don't want
to say anything to interrupt the flow of energy, but
I also feel something.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I can feel what you're talking about, like I can
feel her mom's energy.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Yes, okay, you need to talk about this well.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I mean, I've just everything you're saying. Oh hey, we
had you, Jessica.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
I'm so sorry. It's okay to move to a different place.
I have not had an issue with my video here.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
That's your mother does. Like, yeah, but Chelsea, share what
you just said.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I just when you were coming in and out, Jessica, like,
I what Laura is saying, like I could right before
she said everything, Like I could just feel your mother
swoop in, like her energy swooping in, saying like I'm
here to talk to you now, like I have my
opportunity and I'm gonna say everything that I want to
say to you, Like I could feel her energy and

(52:27):
it was strong.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
Yeah, she is strong, and I want to tell you
what I was getting to that she said to validate
all this for you so that you know this really
is her and she's apologizing. Right, She's going to send
you two signs and you sound a little like unrelated,
but this time'm getting it. She showed me a blue
butterfly and a chicken. I don't know how those are
going to come to you, but when you see them,
and I don't think they have any meaning to you

(52:49):
right now, let me be clear, they just sound wacky.
But when you get them, you're gonna know this is her.
I feel like she's got a little sense of humor
about it. Too, So you'll have to see how that
plays out in your life. But please, no, open your
mind and heart to be looking for those signs. And
she said, in the brief time that we got disconnected,
you've already forgiven her.

Speaker 8 (53:07):
Okay, have you that?

Speaker 6 (53:10):
Nope, maybe you're not not appear not in your head.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
I'm not talking about your head. I'm talking about your
heart and soul. Okay, your head's going to take a
while to catch up with it, like the monkey mind.
That chatter is like the logical part. You're going to
take a while to unpack that. But what I know
just happened because she told me, is that healing just
took place. So in your heart, in that soul energy,
you've forgiven her, even though logically now you're going to

(53:37):
work it out for a while.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Laura, can you talk a little bit about how sometimes
our relationships with people who have passed can improve even
care absolutely?

Speaker 5 (53:46):
You know, because I think when people who were stuck
in beliefs are limited or unevolved while they were here,
cross and do a life review and take accountability, it
changes our relationships dramatically. We now can have these stronger
and beautiful relationships with people we love, and they can
show up for us in ways that they couldn't when

(54:07):
they were here, and they do, and they will look
at that the see and.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
The one that doesn't like you dog just came up
to her.

Speaker 8 (54:15):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah sweet, but oh that's sweet though. That was nice timing.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
Well, so you couldn't see the min pen has been
at my hand looking me this whole time since I've
been out here.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
So yeah, is that the one that was being cranky
before because.

Speaker 7 (54:35):
She came out and looked at me and ran back
in time.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Well, I would I would use this as your door
opening to heal the relationship with your mother. This is
the first step in your healing process.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
And I think this stuff with your sister will work out.
I see like a two month period and then like
this real beautiful doorway for forgiveness and and I don't
feel like it's necessarily going to get worked out completely
in terms of like my version your version, but just
like okay, it's almost like we have to agree to disagree,
but we know is there as this underground river of

(55:08):
love and I love you even if we don't see
eye to eye.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
I have actually tested her a couple of times and
she did my birthday. Was thought we could go, and
she did text me on my birthday, which was big
because it's been almost a year.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
And then I was invited by her while I was
waiting for you guys to am memorial thing for my
mom on Facebook.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Oh that's so beautiful. I feel like writing it and
doing this letter opened the door for all of that, right,
it was your energy that opened that.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
Well.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
Yeah, And I think because my call originally was supposed
to be two days before or after my mom the
first anniversary of my mom passing, and it didn't work out.
And I think maybe, like you were saying, I just
both it ready for that at that time. Actually, and
everything you set up top's just like everything I wish

(56:02):
would have.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Said, she is saying it now. She just didn't have
the ability to.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Say it because she didn't see it that right.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
No, No, that's yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
But she loves you so much.

Speaker 7 (56:16):
Oh, I feel that.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
I guess, of course, part of what makes it so hard.
And I had kind of forgiven her a lot of
the stuff from when I was a kid before she passed,
because especially after being a mom, I understand like you
are just doing your best, and she didn't have the
tools that I have now, so she.

Speaker 7 (56:40):
Didn't really know any differently.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
But then just the last few years where she passed
were so bad.

Speaker 7 (56:48):
So it is.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Really I'm forgeting to know that I will get to
a place where I can really forget pursuit.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, you will. You're gonna get there.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
You're on your way.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
We're all witnessing it.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, thank you for sharing this.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
She also says, right about it, that's going to help.
And then she also said she's going to give you
a win somehow, Like I feel like a scratch off
lottery ticket. You're gonna win, and it might be funny
because it might only be ten dollars, but like she's like,
that's the best I can do right now.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
But just be ready for that too.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
I feel like she's going to try and pay you
back energetically in the most beautiful ways. So just be
open to some magical, beautiful things happening to you and
for you.

Speaker 7 (57:29):
Oh, I could sure you the win.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, you're going to get away. The tide is changing.
You're going to get a win.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
And it makes sense that she would want me to
write about it. She's journaled every single day.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
I can remember.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Oh, I love it. She get ready, you know. I
think sometimes when we write, too, we open the doorway
to a conversation with the other side. And you might
find as you write, you might feel her presence more strongly,
and you might like hear thoughts come to you that
are really from her, like asking for more forgiveness or
telling you how much she loves you. I think that

(58:04):
she wants to be present for that healing journey and
help you heal.

Speaker 7 (58:09):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Thank you, well, thank you for thank you for calling in.
We are so happy that you did.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
I am too. Listen, work of artic I couldn't imagine.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I'm so glad you so much love. Follow up with
us when you see your blue butterfly and your chicken.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Okay, yes, seriously follow this scotch. Maybe it'll be more.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Watch it will be sixty grand like what mom?

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Right?

Speaker 8 (58:42):
Awesome?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Thanks love it, Thanks Jessica, thank you, thank you all.
That was so moving, so moving.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, do we have energy in time for one more?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
What what do you Okay? Should we take a break
and come back and we'll do one more? Oh, take
a quick break?

Speaker 9 (59:01):
Yeah, and we're back with Laura La and Jackson, and
we're going to do one more caller because we can't
let you leave without spreading.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
More than exactly it's so exciting.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yes, and actually this caller is two colors, so we
should have Sarah and Pat on the oh together.

Speaker 7 (59:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
So this is a little bit of couples counseling with Chelsea.
But so Sarah and Pat say, dear Chelsea. My husband
Pat is the youngest of four brothers, or so we
thought up until about five years ago. After the birth
of our second son, my husband's whole family came to visit.
During that trip, my mother in law revealed that she
had become pregnant at.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
The age of fifteen.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
She was sent to a Catholic home for unwed mothers,
and her son was adopted after birth. She had apparently
never planned on sharing this news until my husband bought
an ancestry DNA test. Long story short, it was not
an open adoption, and she has not had much contact with.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Her first child. My husband and his brothers all took
this news in their own way.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Some grieved somewhere angry, but my husband Pat has been
determined to find his now oldest brother, but he's not
had much luck. The person we believe could be his
brother does not seem to want to be contacted and
has no interest in meeting Pat, his brothers, or his mom.
Pat can't seem to let this go and feels like
he needs closure, which I do understand. What would you do?
Family is very important to us both, and we know

(01:00:20):
it is to you as well, Chelsea. Would you let
this go and hope that one day his brother will
change his mind? Or do we continue our search and
try to get creative and exhaust all resources. I value
your opinion and I'm hoping we can find peace whatever
the outcome may be. Sarah and Pat I got the
hair with us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Hi guys, Hello, Hi, this is our special guest, Laura
Lyn Jackson.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
Hi.

Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
Hi, it's nice to meet you all.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Thank you for having us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Oh? Absolutely absolutely? Okay, Laura, what do you think right
off the bat about this?

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
I just want to say, I think always being guided
by love is the highest path to take, and I
think that is your impetus, that is your drive, that
is what is making you want so badly to meet
this brother. Is this love you already have in your
heart having not even met him yet. That said, I
do think that there are free will choices here on

(01:01:14):
Earth really are very powerful, and I think possibly the
highest path to take would be to set the intention
with the universe, with the powers that be, that your
heart would love to connect with your brother, and then
surrender it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Because there's a magic that goes.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
On behind the scenes, in unseen energy streams, in ways
that we can't fathom, but we need to trust in.
I would say that it might be a process for
the brother who maybe has oustrated his life a certain
way and guarded his heart a certain way, that he

(01:01:55):
may know the doors there and not be ready to
open it today. But if you just give some time
and space out of the blue a year and two
months from now, you might get a phone call, you
might get an email, you might get a letter, and
what a beautiful moment that would be. So I think,
set your intention, leave that door open, and know you're

(01:02:15):
coming from the most pure place, but also understand that
his free will might need a little time to make
a decision to be that vulnerable, because that's really what
I see this as about for him is vulnerability, you know,
And it's I think what your knowledge, your heart is
telling you is like, yes, there's a risk here, but
it's going to be so rewarding and so loving when

(01:02:38):
we meet. And his energy is saying, I don't know
that I'm ready to take that risk. I'm still guarded
or I'm not sure I want to meet this family
that I'm not part of or haven't been part of yet.
But I think it's so beautiful the intention you're setting.
And I think it's so beautiful how as a couple
you're supporting each other in that and there's so much
love between you, so much kindness and genuine like rooting

(01:03:03):
for the other person to be healed and be whole
and you know, experience love and all the dimensions. Yeah, oh,
thank you, thank you so much as we speak. That's
what do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
I agree with everything that Laurel and Jackson said, dudo,
because I think it's so important to put out that vibe,
to put out the intention to always lead with love
every time you think about him, to let him know,
like like just think about communicating with someone telepathically, like
choose to believe that that's true, and like I love

(01:03:35):
you and I'm ready whatever you are. And as long
as that message is out there, I do think that
you will hear from him at some point during your.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Life, and you can also focus on the excitement and
the happiness that you'll feel when and if he does
reach out. Like, focusing on those emotions I think can
help bring them to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
This is you know, our timelines are so different.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Like my dad was in sort of a similar situation
as your brother.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
He found out that the person.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
He thought was his dad was not his biological father.
And he found this out when he was in his twenties.
My parents were already married, and the moment my dad
had the realization, he didn't even tell my mom for
a full year because he just needed to digest it
and sort of sit with it. And then it wasn't
for several more years until he met his whole family.

(01:04:21):
And then he walks into this family reunion and he's like, oh,
I thought it was just like a special individual snowflake,
But like I look exactly like that person, but with
a different hair color, and I hold my coffee mug
the same as this person. And so you know, he
might just be on a little bit of a different
timeline than you. But if you focus on those like
feelings of excitement and happiness. I think that's what he'll

(01:04:42):
be feeling from you.

Speaker 8 (01:04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
I love that, and that's definitely where we're coming from.

Speaker 8 (01:04:45):
So keep putting it out there.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're welcome. Thank you guys for calling
in today.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, this is really great.

Speaker 8 (01:04:53):
Of course I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, okay, yes, please do thanks guys.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
We love follow ups, we love follow up episodes. We
love that. Wow, Laura as usual, just over delivered in
every way. Your presence is so appreciated. I love having
you around me. I love it when you're in my
energy field, and I love to be able to watch
people's reactions to hearing you tell them, you know, beautiful

(01:05:21):
things about the things that they can't see that you
are in tune with and attuned to. So thank you.
The book is called Guided You guys please grab a
copy for anyone you know that needs to read this.
It's The Guided, the Secret Path to an Illuminated Life,
and it's my friend, Laura Lynn Jackson.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Thank you, thank you so much for having me here.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Absolutely, Oh, such a great episode.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I loved it so good.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Just I set my whole month in balance, Like I
just feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Oh, okay, guys, the High and Mighty Tour about to begin.
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I just added. Fifteenth is Norfolk, Virginia. February nineteenth Madison, Wisconsin.
February twentieth is Milwaukee, Wisconsin. February twenty first Detroit, Michigan.

(01:06:15):
February twenty second, Rama, Ontario. That's Canada for those of
you who don't speak Canadia. March thirteenth, Cleveland, Ohio. March
fourteenth Columbus, Ohio. March fifteenth, Cincinnati, Ohio. And then March
twentieth is Denver, Colorado. March twenty seventh Portland, Maine. March
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is Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Inneapolis, Minnesota.

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Netflix as a joke festival. I will be in Los Angeles.
That is a new announcement. And May fifteenth Saratoga, California.
May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth Modesto, California. And then

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