June 26, 2024 • 6 mins
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All relationships have their ups and downs, and there's one way couples in their 50s are battling the downs which may come as a surprise... they're taking ecstasy!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Coast Breakfast Bonus Podcast with Tony Jason, Sam.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Thanks for having to listen to a Breakfast Bonus podcast.
We're talking today about you may have seen this in
the news as well. Couples in their fifties are using
ecstasy or MDMA so that they're saying it's saving their marriages.
So they're putting the bark back in the marriage by
taking ecstasy together, which is shocking. I thought, what, but
it's front page news and it's everywhere, and apparently the
most common people who are doing this are people in
their fifties.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, I don't really get it.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I don't get it because I feel like if we
had to do that because our marriage was in such
a bad place, that's that's how I take that, all right,
Why would we need to do that kind of to
be different people?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
It takes you to different people. I think it just
adds as a little I mean, I don't know adding
you know, apparently it's the love drug and apparently opens
up the channels of communication.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So I just start to think, I just don't think
my marriage needs a love drug.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
No, it's not about not needing it.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
It's about enhancing it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
This is the kind of geek that I am. I
look at this and go, well, you've got to break
the law. You're to do something illegal to save your marriage.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And then how I kind of feel too, like where
are you at where you have to do that?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
But it's just like it's just like you're to word
a Corolla. It's going to be better with a turbo charge.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You're on it, no, because the turbo charge is not illegal.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, and they also say this is no.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
But you know, sometimes sometimes the rules are aren't great
jurisdictions of reality. Like I know for a fact that
this particular drug is used, it was historically used in
counseling with you know, is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That right in the day it's still Sarah Hell Drug
Drug Foundation executive director says, it's a false assumption that
older people don't try drugs, and this is what people
in their fifties are trying it and they're saying it
is so good. Normally we seed all the date night.
We've got at least once a month. We look forward
to it and never disappoint. So there's one couple who
are not being named, obviously they're saying, yep, we do
(01:45):
this once a mole.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Do you know there's a drug classification thing where it
looks at the harms potential harms of different drugs, and
you know what's top of that list?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Alcohol, you know, And you're not going to you're not
going to convince me to take an illegal drug.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
In terms of in terms of where it sits on
the harm to humans.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So like it's it's right at the bottom of the
list and it's right next to elisd as well.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's not a drug taker, Like I don't think of
as a.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Drug then, so that's how they've classified it. Think of
it as a facilitating.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
New Zealand's most popular illicit substance after cannabis.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
You just have to you have to remember too, And
I know obviously people take drugs, but the reality is
you don't know where that's coming. That's from, that's coming
from some potentially a really dubid blade.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
But if the benefits were amazing and it made you
feel amazing and facilitated your the love and your relations,
why would you not take a chance. Or something's being
cooked up in a garage somewhere with some dodgy chemicals.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The last time I tried a prescription drug gave me
a liver.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And dream, so I'm like, should I roll the dice
with this one?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
So honestly, sometimes maybe when it comes to antibiotics versus
something that's been cooked up by the mugrab maybe it's better.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But finally, is that parents, whether people can become parents
at school age children, people generally try to avoid this
sort of stuff, right, But as they get a little
bit older, the kids getting older, the spark's gone in
the marriage. I listen to this from Catherine Brain's all
not her real name, not her real name. I remember
leaning up against the wall of a party thinking, actually,
I'm quite the goddess, and I really truly believed it
for the first time in ages and self esteem, and
(03:25):
her husband found it really attractive.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But I guess that's the point I'm trying to make here,
is how is this person's self esteem so low that
she needs a drug to make herself feel like she's
a good person.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
She just quoted that and said, for the first time
in ages, I felt like I got it, felt like, yeah, okay,
so why is your husband not making you feel like
that without the drug? That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Asking owning the herself. You know, you go and do
something that makes you feel like a goddess. Yeah, reality that.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
I just I think we are so close minded, Like
you only have to look at some of the greatest
leaders of our generation in terms of the you know,
a great example of Steve Jobs, and Steve Jobs created
some of the most amazing products and he credits a
lot of that to what he experienced.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Well on alist, did.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
He realize I'm going to burst your bubble there and
go I look at Steve Jobs, and I look at
him and I think he had a sad existence. And
when he died he said, I put all my energy
into all the wrong things, and if I'd lived again,
I would have done it completely different.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Maybe he should have should have gone NDMA and.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
He wife, he fell out with all his children, and
he died a very unhappy man.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, it was the wrong drug for him.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
If not, should have gone for the bottom.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
If you're not like people in their fifties who obviously
doing this right across it's right across New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I had no idea is having a spliff now and again.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hodown years ago and we did a boys trip of
the UK and took a trip over to Amsterdam where
it's legal, so we didn't break the law.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So NDA is not legal.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, I didn't do so we went to a couple
of cafes there which see, you know, marijuana and things,
and I don't smoke at all. I couldn't do that
to himself. So I had the muffins used to bake
it into muffins.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So I had the muff chase, went for the highlight.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Chocolate milk, and all it did for me I actually
felt quite nauseous. Didn't do anything for me. So that oh,
but then I had.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
To take it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Really missed me up. I don't want to try that stuff.
So if not, if not breaking the law like people
in the fifty seem to be doing, what do you
do to splice up your marriage?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Then?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, because every marriage doesn't matter how good your
marriage is. Every marriage needs the flame stoke now and again.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Do you know what I reckon? The biggest thing? I think,
how many years might be married to?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Thirteen?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Fourteen fifteen? I think, do I get married two thousand
and nine? Do the math?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Fifteen fifteen?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
This year fifteen years?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I feel like actually being part of each other's lives
and spending time together is a big deal because a
lot of people are ships in the night and just
don't don't do anything together, literally don't see each other.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Still going to be friends at the end of this.
So you guys, your matees actually hang out with each other.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, well, we we're kind of we are.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I think this is the way our jobs work because
I finish early and he largely works from home, and
then we coach sport together, so we spend a lot
of time to It's a miracle I'm not saying of
him because we're together all the.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Thanks for listening to the Coast Breakfast Bonus podcast. Get
your days started with Coasts Feel Good Breakfast Tony Street,
Jayson Reeves, and Sam Wallace.
The Coast Breakfast Bonus Podcast with Tony Jason, Sam.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Thanks for having to listen to a Breakfast Bonus podcast.
We're talking today about you may have seen this in
the news as well. Couples in their fifties are using
ecstasy or MDMA so that they're saying it's saving their marriages.
So they're putting the bark back in the marriage by
taking ecstasy together, which is shocking. I thought, what, but
it's front page news and it's everywhere, and apparently the
most common people who are doing this are people in
their fifties.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, I don't really get it.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I don't get it because I feel like if we
had to do that because our marriage was in such
a bad place, that's that's how I take that, all right,
Why would we need to do that kind of to
be different people?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
It takes you to different people. I think it just
adds as a little I mean, I don't know adding
you know, apparently it's the love drug and apparently opens
up the channels of communication.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So I just start to think, I just don't think
my marriage needs a love drug.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
No, it's not about not needing it.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
It's about enhancing it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
This is the kind of geek that I am. I
look at this and go, well, you've got to break
the law. You're to do something illegal to save your marriage.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And then how I kind of feel too, like where
are you at where you have to do that?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
But it's just like it's just like you're to word
a Corolla. It's going to be better with a turbo charge.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You're on it, no, because the turbo charge is not illegal.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, and they also say this is no.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
But you know, sometimes sometimes the rules are aren't great
jurisdictions of reality. Like I know for a fact that
this particular drug is used, it was historically used in
counseling with you know, is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That right in the day it's still Sarah Hell Drug
Drug Foundation executive director says, it's a false assumption that
older people don't try drugs, and this is what people
in their fifties are trying it and they're saying it
is so good. Normally we seed all the date night.
We've got at least once a month. We look forward
to it and never disappoint. So there's one couple who
are not being named, obviously they're saying, yep, we do
(01:45):
this once a mole.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Do you know there's a drug classification thing where it
looks at the harms potential harms of different drugs, and
you know what's top of that list?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Alcohol, you know, And you're not going to you're not
going to convince me to take an illegal drug.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
In terms of in terms of where it sits on
the harm to humans.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So like it's it's right at the bottom of the
list and it's right next to elisd as well.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's not a drug taker, Like I don't think of
as a.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Drug then, so that's how they've classified it. Think of
it as a facilitating.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
New Zealand's most popular illicit substance after cannabis.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
You just have to you have to remember too, And
I know obviously people take drugs, but the reality is
you don't know where that's coming. That's from, that's coming
from some potentially a really dubid blade.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
But if the benefits were amazing and it made you
feel amazing and facilitated your the love and your relations,
why would you not take a chance. Or something's being
cooked up in a garage somewhere with some dodgy chemicals.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The last time I tried a prescription drug gave me
a liver.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And dream, so I'm like, should I roll the dice
with this one?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
So honestly, sometimes maybe when it comes to antibiotics versus
something that's been cooked up by the mugrab maybe it's better.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But finally, is that parents, whether people can become parents
at school age children, people generally try to avoid this
sort of stuff, right, But as they get a little
bit older, the kids getting older, the spark's gone in
the marriage. I listen to this from Catherine Brain's all
not her real name, not her real name. I remember
leaning up against the wall of a party thinking, actually,
I'm quite the goddess, and I really truly believed it
for the first time in ages and self esteem, and
(03:25):
her husband found it really attractive.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But I guess that's the point I'm trying to make here,
is how is this person's self esteem so low that
she needs a drug to make herself feel like she's
a good person.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
She just quoted that and said, for the first time
in ages, I felt like I got it, felt like, yeah, okay,
so why is your husband not making you feel like
that without the drug? That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Asking owning the herself. You know, you go and do
something that makes you feel like a goddess. Yeah, reality that.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
I just I think we are so close minded, Like
you only have to look at some of the greatest
leaders of our generation in terms of the you know,
a great example of Steve Jobs, and Steve Jobs created
some of the most amazing products and he credits a
lot of that to what he experienced.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Well on alist, did.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
He realize I'm going to burst your bubble there and
go I look at Steve Jobs, and I look at
him and I think he had a sad existence. And
when he died he said, I put all my energy
into all the wrong things, and if I'd lived again,
I would have done it completely different.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Maybe he should have should have gone NDMA and.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
He wife, he fell out with all his children, and
he died a very unhappy man.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, it was the wrong drug for him.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
If not, should have gone for the bottom.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
If you're not like people in their fifties who obviously
doing this right across it's right across New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I had no idea is having a spliff now and again.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hodown years ago and we did a boys trip of
the UK and took a trip over to Amsterdam where
it's legal, so we didn't break the law.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So NDA is not legal.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, I didn't do so we went to a couple
of cafes there which see, you know, marijuana and things,
and I don't smoke at all. I couldn't do that
to himself. So I had the muffins used to bake
it into muffins.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So I had the muff chase, went for the highlight.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Chocolate milk, and all it did for me I actually
felt quite nauseous. Didn't do anything for me. So that oh,
but then I had.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
To take it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Really missed me up. I don't want to try that stuff.
So if not, if not breaking the law like people
in the fifty seem to be doing, what do you
do to splice up your marriage?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Then?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, because every marriage doesn't matter how good your
marriage is. Every marriage needs the flame stoke now and again.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Do you know what I reckon? The biggest thing? I think,
how many years might be married to?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Thirteen?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Fourteen fifteen? I think, do I get married two thousand
and nine? Do the math?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Fifteen fifteen?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
This year fifteen years?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I feel like actually being part of each other's lives
and spending time together is a big deal because a
lot of people are ships in the night and just
don't don't do anything together, literally don't see each other.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Still going to be friends at the end of this.
So you guys, your matees actually hang out with each other.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, well, we we're kind of we are.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I think this is the way our jobs work because
I finish early and he largely works from home, and
then we coach sport together, so we spend a lot
of time to It's a miracle I'm not saying of
him because we're together all the.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Thanks for listening to the Coast Breakfast Bonus podcast. Get
your days started with Coasts Feel Good Breakfast Tony Street,
Jayson Reeves, and Sam Wallace.
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