July 16, 2024 • 26 mins
Amy & Kat give advice to a listener that emailed asking how to juggle things in life she’s not good at (yet!) like cleaning/organizing, finances, and physical health. Intern Adelyn teaches us about ‘tinned fish girls’ and Amy quizzes Kat to see if she has a ‘girl math brain’ (ex: if you’re paying someone back for dinner and you have money in your Venmo account, that dinner is free, or anything you buy with a gift card is free!! haha)
QUOTE:
“Our outer worlds invariably affect our inner worlds and vice versa.”
– Danielle Roeske, Psy.D
5 Mental Health Benefits of Cleaning:
- Sense of order and control
- Familiarity and consistency
- Released endorphins
- Improved focus
- Regulated emotions
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is from Danielle Rowski and Kat,
you know you're the therapist here with letters after your name.
But what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's a s I D. It's a doctorate in psychology. Okay, Well,
I think you could have figured that out with context clues.
I was yep, I was going to say psychologist D.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But you.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I think you could have gotten there. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The quote is our outer worlds invariably affect our inner worlds,
and vice versa. And this is really sitting with me
because of the chaos at my house right now and
things just being totally out of order with a move
that's happening. So this also goes along with an email
that we got from a listener. My niece Adeline is
(00:52):
here with me though. In turn, Adeline, Hello, Hey, Hey,
what has it been like for you? Like, do you
experience a different energy from me because my outer world
is a little crazy?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah? Are you wanting her honest answer? Of course?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's been chaos here, but you keep it somewhat organized.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, in a way.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, it's been it's been fun, but you handle a lot,
so and I stay chill. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, yesterday Bbe had been really wanting to go to
a workout class, so I was like, Okay, we should
go to this bloody's class that she's really been wanting
to go to.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So we signed up.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We went, and we're checking in with the lady at
the front and she was asking us if we had
any muscle strains or injuries or anything, and all BB says,
she goes, oh, all my injuries are mental, so I
should be fine stop it, and this awkward moment, she's like, oh, like, okay,
(01:53):
go to your plot.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I just thought, well, a lot of my stuff is mental,
so exercise for me is very therapeutic. And I hadn't
been to a class or really challenged my body in
any sort of way in weeks and weeks I've gone
on walks, which that is okay, but I think taking
thirty minutes forty five this class was fifty minutes for
(02:20):
yourself to be completely detached from everything else, because even
on a walk, you can get phone calls, things are happening,
you could be checking your email. This was a class
where I was going to disappear from the world for
fifty minutes, and I knew that I would emerge with
my inner world better better.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah. I just feel for that girl because I imagine
her being like do I laugh or do I call
nine one one? Everybody handled it well.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We do have an email from our listener, Valerie in California,
and she said, Hey, Kat and Amy, I wasn't sure
which podcast this question would make more sense for Couch
Talks or the Fifth Thing, So I'm just emailing you
both and hoping it sticks. And you got this email
as well. And Valerie, what we determined is it's a
good fit thing topic, so that's what we're doing here.
(03:08):
Couch Talks is a bonus episode of Cat's podcast, which
is called You Need Therapy if you want to search
it up wherever you listen to things. But continuing with
the email, Valerie said, I'm looking for tips and tricks here.
When there are so many things that you want to
improve in your life, how do you do it without
becoming just completely overwhelmed by it all. I'm talking about
things like finances, cleaning the house, physical health, etc. There
(03:32):
are definitely things in my life I feel I'm doing
well in. So this isn't a full blown shame spiral
type thing. But the areas I mentioned above I am
embarrassed by when someone else sees how bad I am
at it. But it gets so overwhelmed to the point
of freezing when I think of how much I need
to work on, how do you choose which one to
(03:52):
work on first? Any tips or tricks or resources would
be appreciated, Valerie.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So I have a thought before we get into more
of the details of answering this, and that is I
feel like more recently, and maybe this is because of
the people that I'm working with, but there's this pressure
to name those things again, to do all of those.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Things finances, cleaning the house, physical health, etc.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Like we can't be perfect at everything. We're not gonna
be perfect at anything, but we can't be doing a
plus work on everything in our life all the time.
There's not enough time the day, hours in the day.
And also, depending on who we are, we're going to
be naturally better at other things like cleaning. I'm not organized.
(04:39):
I can find an organization that works for me, but
I've had to let go of trying to do certain
things in that realm because it's not that important to me.
And I'm never gonna be naturally good at that kind
of stuff, and so I just think that sometimes there's
this pressure that we have to have it all together.
I don't know if that's a thing for women or
if it's across all genders, but I just I just
(05:00):
wanted to say that before we lay this out, if
you didn't want to work on some of this stuff,
that also is okay, right.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I think in her case, though, finances maybe need to
get done, cleaning the house inevitably needs to get done,
and then taking care of your mental and physical health
is a priority too, just like I had to do
that yesterday. Again, it had been weeks since I had
done that, and I needed to make sure that I
took the time.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But you don't do it all of those at once
on the same day. Like, if you're working on all
of those need improvement, we have to give ourselves grace
in the sunset. Well, I'm going to start with one
of those things, versus go headfirst into all of these
things at once, overwhelm myself and then I do none
of it. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It's the saying, you know, how do you eat an
elephant one bite at a time?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So an elephant is a huge thing. It can be
overwhelming if you look at it in its entirety and think,
how in the world am I going to eat that?
But when you take it one bite at a time,
it's easier to digest.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And also maybe you find out halfway through you don't
want to eat whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Maybe maybe maybe not. But I will say for me
with finances, when I was terrified of them, I just
had to take it one event at a time, one
part of my finances at a time. It wasn't this
overall because there's a lot of different things that come
with finances. There's a lot of different things that come
with cleaning the house. And if you're looking to sort
of get things in order, can you take it room
(06:23):
by room, almost like time blocking, and don't feel this
pressure you have to get it done in this one
weekend or on your one day off or whenever you
have the time. It's like, Okay, this Saturday, I'd like
to get the kitchen in order, and that's where I'm
going to put all of my focus and energy and
I can't move on to another room until I'm done
with that. And then you move on to the next room,
(06:44):
and then you can kind of get it manageable to
where hopefully then you can keep up with it. And
I feel as though social media sometimes going to be
one of those places where you look at someone's home
and think like, well, they have it all together. You
have no idea if they have a housekeeper every day,
once a week, twice a week. I have someone that
comes to help clean my house once every two weeks,
(07:06):
and that is what works for me, working full time
and keeping everything together and helping with all the bedding
and the sheets. And that's because I have the kids
every other week, so on the week side of the kids,
I have more time so I can manage it on
the weeks after they've left and all the bedding needs
to be changed. I'm in a position where I can
do that. If I wasn't, I would have to carve
(07:28):
out time how I was going to manage it all
and do it. And honestly, even saying that out loud,
I feel like I need to get the kids more
involved in some things. They definitely have their chores they
could do, but as I'm speaking, I would think, well,
part of the kids and their return or leaving here,
it would be strip your bed, put it in lund room,
get that started, and then we work as a team.
(07:50):
And so not everybody has kids or a partner. It
may just be you, Valerie. I don't know your situation.
But for me, when my bed is made, I feel better,
When my kitchen counters are clean, I feel better growing up,
I know for my mom, vacuuming the floor always made
her feel better. I do love to vacuum to myself.
(08:11):
Gracie was here yesterday because Adeline was helping her with
some emergency confetti content and they popping like a lot
of confetti, and Gracie wanted to clean it up before
she went, and I went and got the little vacuum
and she's like, no, no, I'll do it. I said, no, no,
let me. So that was very satisfying for me. So, Valerie,
what is satisfying for you that sort of releases some
endoor friends that get you excited to then go clean
(08:34):
something else. And so there's bigger picture cleaning, like I said,
room by room, or there could be what helps you
feel good in that moment and then to move on.
There are actual mental health benefits of cleaning, and it's
that sense of order and control, and that's probably for
me where the making my bed and cleaning my kitchen
counters comes in. We were going to do this today
(08:54):
and Adeline, what did I do before Kat got here?
And I was like, this has to happen or I
can't do anything else. What did I do before Kat
got here? And I was like, this has to happen
or I can't do anything else?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, you clean the counters the whole kitchen, and the
same you clean the whole kitchen, but you started with
the counters, which most people do.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
At the end, I just let you. You just needed
it right away, a counter's girl. I wanted to watch
something be like wiped away and cleaned.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yes, and then you have a domino effect. It's like,
what else can I do? There's familiarity for me with
kitchen counters and make my bed consistency. That's a benefit.
We've talked about the endorphins, and what is it about endorphins?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Kat? They make you happy, and happy people.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Don't kill their husbands.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Shout out Hellwoodz.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You have improved focus, And I'm not quite sure where
that comes into play, but I think that if it's
a domino effect and you focused on that and then
you go to the next than you're more engaged.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
See.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think that speaks to even the quote that you
said in the beginning that like your outer world and
your inner world play off of each other. So if
I have a clear space, then it impacts the clarity
of my mind. That's why you have letters after your name.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't think that it would take the letters to
figure that out though. Yeah. No, no, no, not calling
you anything. I know you were okay, No, no offense taken.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I just was thinking, oh, now that makes sense, and
that also makes sense with the final mental health benefit
of cleaning, and that's regulated emotions because you're creating clarity
and calmness in your outer world, so therefore your inner
world is ah.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And that's what for me.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
For me, I cleaned my kitchen this morning, and my
inner world got better. I did my fifty minutes of pilates.
She's like, oh, it's been a minute since I saw you.
I was like, yeah, February.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But hey, whatever, it's it's fine. I want to give
one more thought on that. Okay. And this actually might
speak to anything finances, whatever, but something that I have
learned through the process of like going through big goals
with people and also like the idea of like a
news resolution and stuff like that. It's oftentimes we pick
these grandiose goals like clean my house or you know,
(11:15):
I'm going to start a whole new morning routine, these
big things, and it feels like you lose until the
whole thing is done, and that's when you win. And
so something I learned, and I think you're kind of
speaking to this with like the cleaning the counters and stuff,
is rather than have this goal if I want to
clean my house or I want to clean the kitchen,
it's I want to push put the dishes away, or
(11:36):
I want to clean the counters, or I want to
vacuum the floors. So you get that sense of satisfaction
that will help propel you to the next thing. That's
building motivation versus if it's I want to clean the house,
you don't get that feeling of oh, I accomplished it
until the whole house is cleaned. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, I like that, And it's made me think back
to the finance part, Like Rocket money was something that
helped me and take it kind of one bite at
a time, and that will really help you sift through
what you're spending on subscriptions and you can spend time
focusing on Okay, if I need to look at my budget,
this will help me categorize my spending here like getting
(12:13):
apps and tools, like there's a free version of Rocket Money,
and you can also do a paid version that'll give
you more tools that will help you. And then you've
kind of got like a little AI partner that's helping
you manage things. So you could spend some time on subscriptions,
you could spend time on other bills. I'm not sure
what it is about finances that stress you out. For me,
(12:36):
there was so much to learn because I was suddenly
single and taking over and even the selling of a
house and buying a new house, like I relied on
my realtor's wisdom a lot and other people. You can't
know it all. That's why there are other experts and
asking questions can go a long way. I mean, obviously
respecting someone's time and talent if you need to get
(12:58):
on a coffee or you're paying for their time, I
would want to abuse a relationship. But if you know
someone that may have a quick answer to a question
you have, like it can't hurt to ask and just
taking that sort of stuff, one step at a time.
Back to cleaning the house real quick. There's seven tips
and this is from Forbes Health.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So you know it's legit.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It's legit, But pick your favorite or most important room.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
First.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Start small, Like we've been talking about give everything a home,
and this is something I've been doing as I've been moving.
It's like this has been living in some random corner
for a while and it doesn't really belong here, So
let me create a new home for it, and that's
where it always is going to go. And then that
way putting things away. All of this sounds very.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What do you do if you can't find a home
for it under the bed? Okay, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Laund throw it in the garage like a trunk of
your car, like I find different hiding spots. But I
think then maybe to answer your point Kat with that question,
my actual answer would be, can you get a plastic bin?
Maybe that's clear so you can see through it and
see what's in it? Because I feel the paper boxes.
(14:08):
That's what gets hard. Cardboard, box of box, yeah, cardboard, okay,
paper cardboard, tomato, tomato. But just a cheap, clear plastic
bin that you are now making your I don't really
know where I'm going to put this yet, so it's
going to go in this box until I.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Figure it out. And then where does the box go?
Under your bed?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, you raise you put under your bed, it probably
won't fait under your bed.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Do you have like a little attic space do you
have in your laundry room?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, I'm just asking this because I bought an adult
Easter Bunny costume this year to surprise my nieces and
it's been in my kitchen since Easter, and I just
don't know where that belongs to my house.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I know, and I think you should get a clear
plastic bin for your little costumes.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What costumes do I have?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I know you you're a seven on the Enneagram. I
know you have a other stuff you probably have like
a policewoman outfit somewhere, like a mustache.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I do a mustache, a top hat. I don't have that, Okay,
but I feel like you, yeah, I do. You're right
and instead of it, because I think sometimes I end
up throwing stuff out, but then I buy the same
things again because I'm like, I need that again. I
didn't think I was gonna need that again, but now
to buy another bunny costume, and I could have just
used the one I already had.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So now we solve this problem. It goes as a
clear plastic bin. And then I'm sure you have a
closet or somewhere where you can put the bin.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
What I did to prepare for my move too, And
this very thing for organization is I made sure to
get the same bins that they're stack stuck. Yeah, so
that way I can keep them together and organize. So
give everything a home if it doesn't have a home,
Use a plastic bin under your bed.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Use a goal to motivate you.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Maybe if there's a show you want to watch, you
don't get to watch it till you've done a small
part or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Or what about you get to watch it once you've
done it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I love that language. That's why you have the letters
after your name. Set non negotiable tasks. Yeah, like I
have to gets done. This is non negotiable. And then
take it slow, but not too slow.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Because I mean it was too slow.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Too slow would be like you know, you start to
put it off. I mean I think you got to
pick up the pace. Hey, Adeline and I had talked
about this a couple of weeks ago on a four
Things episode. Is how my sister taught us about the
Pu's a ten minute PU which is a pickup session,
and you set a timer and everybody races to get
as much done as possible in that ten minutes. And you,
(16:42):
as an adult, you can do your own ten minute PU.
Set a timer, start going and because it's a domino effect,
oftentimes you keep going past the ten minutes because you've
released them endorphins.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Probably not us.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Kids, we'll have it done in ten Well, I was
gonna say, will if you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Finish your task. I was actually talking about this with
Patrick the other day because we were talking about maybe
getting somebody to help clean our house. I feel like
for a while we did it ourselves, but because we
would have cleaning days and we would all get a task,
like you do the bathroom, you do this, you do that.
But I would take a really long time to clean
the bathroom because once you're done with the bathroom, then
(17:21):
you get another chore. So the longer you took, the
less chores you had to do. So that might backfire
depending on who your children are. I scurely clean that bathroom,
baty child. I just didn't like to clean, I know,
and see how that's still true for you today. Maybe
(17:41):
I should have picked up the pace, picked up the pace.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I love the idea of a timer, do you allen?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I love it, and it's fun when they were friends over.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But I think it would have worked if my mom
was like, Okay, you have fifteen minutes. If you clean
the bathroom in fifteen minutes, then you get a star
on this chart or something, and so then I would
do it. Versus I feel like if I clean the
bathroom in fifteen minutes, I'd be punished by having to
clean another thing. The motivation, Yeah, my mom just wasn't
clued int how my brain worked back then.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, and everybody's brain is different, because the star would
have done nothing for me. I love to put a
sticker on it, I know, but that's not said. I
wasn't a performance based like you wanted to be the
smartest person in class and know every answer and get
straight a's, and you wanted to have fun, wanted to
talk to everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Circling back to finances, since Valerie asked about that, there's
some interesting statistics. This is from Nielsen, which is a
media research firm, but by twenty twenty eight, it says
women will be in charge of seventy five percent of
discretionary spending. So when money is out there and we
are deciding how to spend it, seventy five percent of
(18:46):
the women are making the decision, which you would think,
like it's men that or.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
At least fifteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, but we're moving on up, which is great to
know because a lot of it is due to influencers
and social media and it's very female dominated, Like more
and more marketing is done through the social media and
brands are targeting gurly niches. There's the corporate girlies, the
fitness ones, the ADHD girlies, this is from the article,
(19:15):
the IBS girlies, the Hot girl walk ones, and then
the tined fish girlies, which we didn't know what in
the heck that was. We looked it up and apparently
in the last year there's been a tinned fish craze,
which is canned fish.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
It was a couple that posted a video having a
first date doing a It was a first date, I'm
pretty sure, and then they started posting all these dates
and all of them involved ten fish. Maybe they had
been dating longer, but I saw it was like first date,
have canned fish on a charcuterie board and call it
a secutari board.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Because it's from the sea.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
But wait, so then they would keep having the same
kind of date, or they would switch it up, like
instead of a seacutery board, now we're having.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Every time it was ten fish, a different kind of tinned.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Fish, favorite fish, but yeah, but all from a tin.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So the point in this part is that I guess
women are making money from canned fish companies to post
their secutary boards.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And the market, and like, would it take for you
to become a tech fish curly? Sure, but it can
be good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I remember talking about this on the Bobby bonehow at
one point, like sardines, because we were talking about how
disgusting they are, and I think I even had to
eat some sort of a fish out of a tin
and I think it was a sardine and it was
so disgusting. But we were talking about the health benefits
of it, and it can't be really good for you,
So there could be a whole thing there.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yes, And I'm sure some people like them and I'm
sure they might be economical. And they smell. Yeah, I
have that on a date.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, it sounds like the worst part.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'm inviting a guy over and I'm like, oh, I
made this charcuterie board, and he's like, why does your
house smell so bad? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Also, Kat, I need to correct you. She made him
a secut Sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Sorry. Also, if somebody made me that, I'd be like,
but why, it's not even funny to me. I was
gonna say. That shows the power of marketing. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And also how marketing is so spread out now. It
used to be that we would all see the same things.
We were all watching a lot of the same things.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Same commercials.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Content is so spread out that you have your things
that are going viral on TikTok, you have your things
that are going viral on Facebook. You have your things
that are going viral on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
All different and based on your algorithm.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, there's so much So we miss that. But now
that we're all talking about it and our phones are
sitting here in front of us, we're probably about to
get some tinned fish content showing up in our feeds.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Before we wrap, Cat, I have kind of like a
little quick for you. It's called the Girl Math Quiz. Okay, everybody,
you can play along answer these questions for yourself. Anything
under five dollars is free, girl Math. Yes, anything I
buy with a gift card is free. If I buy
something but then I return it, I have made money.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes, and that's why I have like a revolving like
Amazon return by. It's like, oh, I just got forty dollars,
I can go to Target. Now you're making so much ye.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yes, going to an event or a concert is free
because you purchase the ticket so long ago that it
doesn't really count.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I actually do agree with that, Girl Math. I load
my Starbucks app in advance, so yeah, Starbucks is free to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't have a Starbucks app. I imagine that would
work that one.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't get.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, it just means you pay an advance. You're loading
up your Starbucks cards. So then when you go to
Starbucks and order something through the app.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, it doesn't feel like they're okay because you already
took the money out of your account. That was smart
on Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Of course they know what they're doing. Anything discounted more
than fifty percent is free. And I'm losing money. If
I don't get it because it's fifty percent off.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm losing money. I was going to say, like, I'm
saving money by buying this thing that's on sale.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
If I'm paying someone back for dinner and I have
money in Venmo, that dinner is free, that's me one
hundred percent. If I have a Venmo balance, I go
to my Venmo account and I'm paying someone, I'm like, heck, yeah,
I'm paying for my Venmo balance. But the same thing
is money from my bank account, but it feels different.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
My mom would keep her a Venmo balance and then
pay for vacations with her Venmo because then it's like
the vacation's free.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Girl math yea. If I don't buy something, like if
I don't buy a pair of shorts that I really
wanted for fifty dollars, then I've actually made fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That makes a lot of sense to me. You can
I make a lot of I've been making a lot
of money lately.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Like you get to go spend that fifty dollars on
something else because you didn't buy the shorts. And then lastly,
if my husband buys something with his card, even though
with our joint bank account it's free.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I just did that the other day. I texted Patrick
and I said, I just bought an outdoors shed with
your credit card. Don't be alarmed at the charge, because
I didn't want to spend the money. But it's so
there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
A little girl math quiz that anyone listening you can
do with your girlfriends or with your that's funny, with
your husband, your wife.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I wonder what guys would think of this.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I know, I think it'd be fun to go over
like you should go over these big p We hope
that y'all are having the day that you need to have.
And I'm really getting things organized here. And now that
I am, I'm feeling better. My inner self is better
care even just doing something like this, which I enjoy
talking with y'all, checking this off my list of like
I love doing our podcast, and now I feel good.
(24:44):
My inner self is doing well, right Adelan, thank god.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, we're just working on the mental injuries.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, but this is contributing. This helps.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Adelan's my roommate, so she knows she knows best.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Kat. Where can people find you? Oh? I have it
up eight? My Instagram name you got rid of the period? Yes,
why did I ever have the period? I don't know.
The dot the dot cat dot defada, I don't know.
Maybe I thought it looked cool. But at kat van Buren.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Because van Buren's the married name, so at kat kat
van Buren. Like the president. He was the eighth President
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And he was short.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Adeline. Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Adeline E?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Doser which I should take out the e because I
was just I don't know should it was?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I did? Right?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
If you like it, keep it is for Elizabeth, which
is our shared middle name.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I love that name. I want to name my child Elizabeth.
You can well pat dressed to agree, will we give
you the okay?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And I am Radio Amy at Radio Amy's my handle
because Amy Brown was taken by a fairy artist.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You could have done it amy dot Brown.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I could have, but I don't know. I did Radio
Amy because it was back in the day and we
were like, what's the social media?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Who's going to even be on it? Who cares? True?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Right when Instagram started, it was like what is this?
And we were just like taking pictures of things with
filters and posting them, like the Nashville filter whichever. My
first Instagram I live in Nashville. I lived in North
Carolina in it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Do you remember what your first Instagram photo was? No,
mine was a watermelon basket. Do you remember yours?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Mine was a go pro picture of me skiing.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
On a box? Okay, that's cool. Actually was pretty cool.
But whatever? Did you have a filter on it? I
probably used the Nashville filter.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I think it had like little rainbow stuff in the
corners where it looks kind of pixeled.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It was edited, so you're cool. Well, look at what
yours was, Amy. It has to go way. Maybe a
lot of scrolling, but it's possible. Yeah, the time. But
there we go, full circle, full circle. All right, talk
to you all later.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Bye.
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is from Danielle Rowski and Kat,
you know you're the therapist here with letters after your name.
But what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's a s I D. It's a doctorate in psychology. Okay, Well,
I think you could have figured that out with context clues.
I was yep, I was going to say psychologist D.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But you.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I think you could have gotten there. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The quote is our outer worlds invariably affect our inner worlds,
and vice versa. And this is really sitting with me
because of the chaos at my house right now and
things just being totally out of order with a move
that's happening. So this also goes along with an email
that we got from a listener. My niece Adeline is
(00:52):
here with me though. In turn, Adeline, Hello, Hey, Hey,
what has it been like for you? Like, do you
experience a different energy from me because my outer world
is a little crazy?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah? Are you wanting her honest answer? Of course?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's been chaos here, but you keep it somewhat organized.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, in a way.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, it's been it's been fun, but you handle a lot,
so and I stay chill. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, yesterday Bbe had been really wanting to go to
a workout class, so I was like, Okay, we should
go to this bloody's class that she's really been wanting
to go to.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So we signed up.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We went, and we're checking in with the lady at
the front and she was asking us if we had
any muscle strains or injuries or anything, and all BB says,
she goes, oh, all my injuries are mental, so I
should be fine stop it, and this awkward moment, she's like, oh, like, okay,
(01:53):
go to your plot.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I just thought, well, a lot of my stuff is mental,
so exercise for me is very therapeutic. And I hadn't
been to a class or really challenged my body in
any sort of way in weeks and weeks I've gone
on walks, which that is okay, but I think taking
thirty minutes forty five this class was fifty minutes for
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yourself to be completely detached from everything else, because even
on a walk, you can get phone calls, things are happening,
you could be checking your email. This was a class
where I was going to disappear from the world for
fifty minutes, and I knew that I would emerge with
my inner world better better.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah. I just feel for that girl because I imagine
her being like do I laugh or do I call
nine one one? Everybody handled it well.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We do have an email from our listener, Valerie in California,
and she said, Hey, Kat and Amy, I wasn't sure
which podcast this question would make more sense for Couch
Talks or the Fifth Thing, So I'm just emailing you
both and hoping it sticks. And you got this email
as well. And Valerie, what we determined is it's a
good fit thing topic, so that's what we're doing here.
(03:08):
Couch Talks is a bonus episode of Cat's podcast, which
is called You Need Therapy if you want to search
it up wherever you listen to things. But continuing with
the email, Valerie said, I'm looking for tips and tricks here.
When there are so many things that you want to
improve in your life, how do you do it without
becoming just completely overwhelmed by it all. I'm talking about
things like finances, cleaning the house, physical health, etc. There
(03:32):
are definitely things in my life I feel I'm doing
well in. So this isn't a full blown shame spiral
type thing. But the areas I mentioned above I am
embarrassed by when someone else sees how bad I am
at it. But it gets so overwhelmed to the point
of freezing when I think of how much I need
to work on, how do you choose which one to
(03:52):
work on first? Any tips or tricks or resources would
be appreciated, Valerie.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So I have a thought before we get into more
of the details of answering this, and that is I
feel like more recently, and maybe this is because of
the people that I'm working with, but there's this pressure
to name those things again, to do all of those.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Things finances, cleaning the house, physical health, etc.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Like we can't be perfect at everything. We're not gonna
be perfect at anything, but we can't be doing a
plus work on everything in our life all the time.
There's not enough time the day, hours in the day.
And also, depending on who we are, we're going to
be naturally better at other things like cleaning. I'm not organized.
(04:39):
I can find an organization that works for me, but
I've had to let go of trying to do certain
things in that realm because it's not that important to me.
And I'm never gonna be naturally good at that kind
of stuff, and so I just think that sometimes there's
this pressure that we have to have it all together.
I don't know if that's a thing for women or
if it's across all genders, but I just I just
(05:00):
wanted to say that before we lay this out, if
you didn't want to work on some of this stuff,
that also is okay, right.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I think in her case, though, finances maybe need to
get done, cleaning the house inevitably needs to get done,
and then taking care of your mental and physical health
is a priority too, just like I had to do
that yesterday. Again, it had been weeks since I had
done that, and I needed to make sure that I
took the time.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But you don't do it all of those at once
on the same day. Like, if you're working on all
of those need improvement, we have to give ourselves grace
in the sunset. Well, I'm going to start with one
of those things, versus go headfirst into all of these
things at once, overwhelm myself and then I do none
of it. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It's the saying, you know, how do you eat an
elephant one bite at a time?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So an elephant is a huge thing. It can be
overwhelming if you look at it in its entirety and think,
how in the world am I going to eat that?
But when you take it one bite at a time,
it's easier to digest.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And also maybe you find out halfway through you don't
want to eat whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Maybe maybe maybe not. But I will say for me
with finances, when I was terrified of them, I just
had to take it one event at a time, one
part of my finances at a time. It wasn't this
overall because there's a lot of different things that come
with finances. There's a lot of different things that come
with cleaning the house. And if you're looking to sort
of get things in order, can you take it room
(06:23):
by room, almost like time blocking, and don't feel this
pressure you have to get it done in this one
weekend or on your one day off or whenever you
have the time. It's like, Okay, this Saturday, I'd like
to get the kitchen in order, and that's where I'm
going to put all of my focus and energy and
I can't move on to another room until I'm done
with that. And then you move on to the next room,
(06:44):
and then you can kind of get it manageable to
where hopefully then you can keep up with it. And
I feel as though social media sometimes going to be
one of those places where you look at someone's home
and think like, well, they have it all together. You
have no idea if they have a housekeeper every day,
once a week, twice a week. I have someone that
comes to help clean my house once every two weeks,
(07:06):
and that is what works for me, working full time
and keeping everything together and helping with all the bedding
and the sheets. And that's because I have the kids
every other week, so on the week side of the kids,
I have more time so I can manage it on
the weeks after they've left and all the bedding needs
to be changed. I'm in a position where I can
do that. If I wasn't, I would have to carve
(07:28):
out time how I was going to manage it all
and do it. And honestly, even saying that out loud,
I feel like I need to get the kids more
involved in some things. They definitely have their chores they
could do, but as I'm speaking, I would think, well,
part of the kids and their return or leaving here,
it would be strip your bed, put it in lund room,
get that started, and then we work as a team.
(07:50):
And so not everybody has kids or a partner. It
may just be you, Valerie. I don't know your situation.
But for me, when my bed is made, I feel better,
When my kitchen counters are clean, I feel better growing up,
I know for my mom, vacuuming the floor always made
her feel better. I do love to vacuum to myself.
(08:11):
Gracie was here yesterday because Adeline was helping her with
some emergency confetti content and they popping like a lot
of confetti, and Gracie wanted to clean it up before
she went, and I went and got the little vacuum
and she's like, no, no, I'll do it. I said, no, no,
let me. So that was very satisfying for me. So, Valerie,
what is satisfying for you that sort of releases some
endoor friends that get you excited to then go clean
(08:34):
something else. And so there's bigger picture cleaning, like I said,
room by room, or there could be what helps you
feel good in that moment and then to move on.
There are actual mental health benefits of cleaning, and it's
that sense of order and control, and that's probably for
me where the making my bed and cleaning my kitchen
counters comes in. We were going to do this today
(08:54):
and Adeline, what did I do before Kat got here?
And I was like, this has to happen or I
can't do anything else. What did I do before Kat
got here? And I was like, this has to happen
or I can't do anything else?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, you clean the counters the whole kitchen, and the
same you clean the whole kitchen, but you started with
the counters, which most people do.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
At the end, I just let you. You just needed
it right away, a counter's girl. I wanted to watch
something be like wiped away and cleaned.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yes, and then you have a domino effect. It's like,
what else can I do? There's familiarity for me with
kitchen counters and make my bed consistency. That's a benefit.
We've talked about the endorphins, and what is it about endorphins?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Kat? They make you happy, and happy people.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Don't kill their husbands.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Shout out Hellwoodz.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You have improved focus, And I'm not quite sure where
that comes into play, but I think that if it's
a domino effect and you focused on that and then
you go to the next than you're more engaged.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
See.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think that speaks to even the quote that you
said in the beginning that like your outer world and
your inner world play off of each other. So if
I have a clear space, then it impacts the clarity
of my mind. That's why you have letters after your name.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't think that it would take the letters to
figure that out though. Yeah. No, no, no, not calling
you anything. I know you were okay, No, no offense taken.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I just was thinking, oh, now that makes sense, and
that also makes sense with the final mental health benefit
of cleaning, and that's regulated emotions because you're creating clarity
and calmness in your outer world, so therefore your inner
world is ah.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And that's what for me.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
For me, I cleaned my kitchen this morning, and my
inner world got better. I did my fifty minutes of pilates.
She's like, oh, it's been a minute since I saw you.
I was like, yeah, February.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But hey, whatever, it's it's fine. I want to give
one more thought on that. Okay. And this actually might
speak to anything finances, whatever, but something that I have
learned through the process of like going through big goals
with people and also like the idea of like a
news resolution and stuff like that. It's oftentimes we pick
these grandiose goals like clean my house or you know,
(11:15):
I'm going to start a whole new morning routine, these
big things, and it feels like you lose until the
whole thing is done, and that's when you win. And
so something I learned, and I think you're kind of
speaking to this with like the cleaning the counters and stuff,
is rather than have this goal if I want to
clean my house or I want to clean the kitchen,
it's I want to push put the dishes away, or
(11:36):
I want to clean the counters, or I want to
vacuum the floors. So you get that sense of satisfaction
that will help propel you to the next thing. That's
building motivation versus if it's I want to clean the house,
you don't get that feeling of oh, I accomplished it
until the whole house is cleaned. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, I like that, And it's made me think back
to the finance part, Like Rocket money was something that
helped me and take it kind of one bite at
a time, and that will really help you sift through
what you're spending on subscriptions and you can spend time
focusing on Okay, if I need to look at my budget,
this will help me categorize my spending here like getting
(12:13):
apps and tools, like there's a free version of Rocket Money,
and you can also do a paid version that'll give
you more tools that will help you. And then you've
kind of got like a little AI partner that's helping
you manage things. So you could spend some time on subscriptions,
you could spend time on other bills. I'm not sure
what it is about finances that stress you out. For me,
(12:36):
there was so much to learn because I was suddenly
single and taking over and even the selling of a
house and buying a new house, like I relied on
my realtor's wisdom a lot and other people. You can't
know it all. That's why there are other experts and
asking questions can go a long way. I mean, obviously
respecting someone's time and talent if you need to get
(12:58):
on a coffee or you're paying for their time, I
would want to abuse a relationship. But if you know
someone that may have a quick answer to a question
you have, like it can't hurt to ask and just
taking that sort of stuff, one step at a time.
Back to cleaning the house real quick. There's seven tips
and this is from Forbes Health.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So you know it's legit.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It's legit, But pick your favorite or most important room.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
First.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Start small, Like we've been talking about give everything a home,
and this is something I've been doing as I've been moving.
It's like this has been living in some random corner
for a while and it doesn't really belong here, So
let me create a new home for it, and that's
where it always is going to go. And then that
way putting things away. All of this sounds very.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What do you do if you can't find a home
for it under the bed? Okay, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Laund throw it in the garage like a trunk of
your car, like I find different hiding spots. But I
think then maybe to answer your point Kat with that question,
my actual answer would be, can you get a plastic bin?
Maybe that's clear so you can see through it and
see what's in it? Because I feel the paper boxes.
(14:08):
That's what gets hard. Cardboard, box of box, yeah, cardboard, okay,
paper cardboard, tomato, tomato. But just a cheap, clear plastic
bin that you are now making your I don't really
know where I'm going to put this yet, so it's
going to go in this box until I.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Figure it out. And then where does the box go?
Under your bed?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, you raise you put under your bed, it probably
won't fait under your bed.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Do you have like a little attic space do you
have in your laundry room?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, I'm just asking this because I bought an adult
Easter Bunny costume this year to surprise my nieces and
it's been in my kitchen since Easter, and I just
don't know where that belongs to my house.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I know, and I think you should get a clear
plastic bin for your little costumes.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What costumes do I have?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I know you you're a seven on the Enneagram. I
know you have a other stuff you probably have like
a policewoman outfit somewhere, like a mustache.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I do a mustache, a top hat. I don't have that, Okay,
but I feel like you, yeah, I do. You're right
and instead of it, because I think sometimes I end
up throwing stuff out, but then I buy the same
things again because I'm like, I need that again. I
didn't think I was gonna need that again, but now
to buy another bunny costume, and I could have just
used the one I already had.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So now we solve this problem. It goes as a
clear plastic bin. And then I'm sure you have a
closet or somewhere where you can put the bin.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
What I did to prepare for my move too, And
this very thing for organization is I made sure to
get the same bins that they're stack stuck. Yeah, so
that way I can keep them together and organize. So
give everything a home if it doesn't have a home,
Use a plastic bin under your bed.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Use a goal to motivate you.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Maybe if there's a show you want to watch, you
don't get to watch it till you've done a small
part or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Or what about you get to watch it once you've
done it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I love that language. That's why you have the letters
after your name. Set non negotiable tasks. Yeah, like I
have to gets done. This is non negotiable. And then
take it slow, but not too slow.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Because I mean it was too slow.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Too slow would be like you know, you start to
put it off. I mean I think you got to
pick up the pace. Hey, Adeline and I had talked
about this a couple of weeks ago on a four
Things episode. Is how my sister taught us about the
Pu's a ten minute PU which is a pickup session,
and you set a timer and everybody races to get
as much done as possible in that ten minutes. And you,
(16:42):
as an adult, you can do your own ten minute PU.
Set a timer, start going and because it's a domino effect,
oftentimes you keep going past the ten minutes because you've
released them endorphins.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Probably not us.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Kids, we'll have it done in ten Well, I was
gonna say, will if you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Finish your task. I was actually talking about this with
Patrick the other day because we were talking about maybe
getting somebody to help clean our house. I feel like
for a while we did it ourselves, but because we
would have cleaning days and we would all get a task,
like you do the bathroom, you do this, you do that.
But I would take a really long time to clean
the bathroom because once you're done with the bathroom, then
(17:21):
you get another chore. So the longer you took, the
less chores you had to do. So that might backfire
depending on who your children are. I scurely clean that bathroom,
baty child. I just didn't like to clean, I know,
and see how that's still true for you today. Maybe
(17:41):
I should have picked up the pace, picked up the pace.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I love the idea of a timer, do you allen?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I love it, and it's fun when they were friends over.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But I think it would have worked if my mom
was like, Okay, you have fifteen minutes. If you clean
the bathroom in fifteen minutes, then you get a star
on this chart or something, and so then I would
do it. Versus I feel like if I clean the
bathroom in fifteen minutes, I'd be punished by having to
clean another thing. The motivation, Yeah, my mom just wasn't
clued int how my brain worked back then.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, and everybody's brain is different, because the star would
have done nothing for me. I love to put a
sticker on it, I know, but that's not said. I
wasn't a performance based like you wanted to be the
smartest person in class and know every answer and get
straight a's, and you wanted to have fun, wanted to
talk to everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Circling back to finances, since Valerie asked about that, there's
some interesting statistics. This is from Nielsen, which is a
media research firm, but by twenty twenty eight, it says
women will be in charge of seventy five percent of
discretionary spending. So when money is out there and we
are deciding how to spend it, seventy five percent of
(18:46):
the women are making the decision, which you would think,
like it's men that or.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
At least fifteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, but we're moving on up, which is great to
know because a lot of it is due to influencers
and social media and it's very female dominated, Like more
and more marketing is done through the social media and
brands are targeting gurly niches. There's the corporate girlies, the
fitness ones, the ADHD girlies, this is from the article,
(19:15):
the IBS girlies, the Hot girl walk ones, and then
the tined fish girlies, which we didn't know what in
the heck that was. We looked it up and apparently
in the last year there's been a tinned fish craze,
which is canned fish.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
It was a couple that posted a video having a
first date doing a It was a first date, I'm
pretty sure, and then they started posting all these dates
and all of them involved ten fish. Maybe they had
been dating longer, but I saw it was like first date,
have canned fish on a charcuterie board and call it
a secutari board.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Because it's from the sea.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
But wait, so then they would keep having the same
kind of date, or they would switch it up, like
instead of a seacutery board, now we're having.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Every time it was ten fish, a different kind of tinned.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Fish, favorite fish, but yeah, but all from a tin.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So the point in this part is that I guess
women are making money from canned fish companies to post
their secutary boards.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And the market, and like, would it take for you
to become a tech fish curly? Sure, but it can
be good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I remember talking about this on the Bobby bonehow at
one point, like sardines, because we were talking about how
disgusting they are, and I think I even had to
eat some sort of a fish out of a tin
and I think it was a sardine and it was
so disgusting. But we were talking about the health benefits
of it, and it can't be really good for you,
So there could be a whole thing there.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yes, And I'm sure some people like them and I'm
sure they might be economical. And they smell. Yeah, I
have that on a date.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, it sounds like the worst part.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'm inviting a guy over and I'm like, oh, I
made this charcuterie board, and he's like, why does your
house smell so bad? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Also, Kat, I need to correct you. She made him
a secut Sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Sorry. Also, if somebody made me that, I'd be like,
but why, it's not even funny to me. I was
gonna say. That shows the power of marketing. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And also how marketing is so spread out now. It
used to be that we would all see the same things.
We were all watching a lot of the same things.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Same commercials.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Content is so spread out that you have your things
that are going viral on TikTok, you have your things
that are going viral on Facebook. You have your things
that are going viral on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
All different and based on your algorithm.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, there's so much So we miss that. But now
that we're all talking about it and our phones are
sitting here in front of us, we're probably about to
get some tinned fish content showing up in our feeds.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Before we wrap, Cat, I have kind of like a
little quick for you. It's called the Girl Math Quiz. Okay, everybody,
you can play along answer these questions for yourself. Anything
under five dollars is free, girl Math. Yes, anything I
buy with a gift card is free. If I buy
something but then I return it, I have made money.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes, and that's why I have like a revolving like
Amazon return by. It's like, oh, I just got forty dollars,
I can go to Target. Now you're making so much ye.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yes, going to an event or a concert is free
because you purchase the ticket so long ago that it
doesn't really count.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I actually do agree with that, Girl Math. I load
my Starbucks app in advance, so yeah, Starbucks is free to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't have a Starbucks app. I imagine that would
work that one.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't get.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, it just means you pay an advance. You're loading
up your Starbucks cards. So then when you go to
Starbucks and order something through the app.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, it doesn't feel like they're okay because you already
took the money out of your account. That was smart
on Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Of course they know what they're doing. Anything discounted more
than fifty percent is free. And I'm losing money. If
I don't get it because it's fifty percent off.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm losing money. I was going to say, like, I'm
saving money by buying this thing that's on sale.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
If I'm paying someone back for dinner and I have
money in Venmo, that dinner is free, that's me one
hundred percent. If I have a Venmo balance, I go
to my Venmo account and I'm paying someone, I'm like, heck, yeah,
I'm paying for my Venmo balance. But the same thing
is money from my bank account, but it feels different.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
My mom would keep her a Venmo balance and then
pay for vacations with her Venmo because then it's like
the vacation's free.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Girl math yea. If I don't buy something, like if
I don't buy a pair of shorts that I really
wanted for fifty dollars, then I've actually made fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That makes a lot of sense to me. You can
I make a lot of I've been making a lot
of money lately.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Like you get to go spend that fifty dollars on
something else because you didn't buy the shorts. And then lastly,
if my husband buys something with his card, even though
with our joint bank account it's free.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I just did that the other day. I texted Patrick
and I said, I just bought an outdoors shed with
your credit card. Don't be alarmed at the charge, because
I didn't want to spend the money. But it's so
there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
A little girl math quiz that anyone listening you can
do with your girlfriends or with your that's funny, with
your husband, your wife.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I wonder what guys would think of this.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I know, I think it'd be fun to go over
like you should go over these big p We hope
that y'all are having the day that you need to have.
And I'm really getting things organized here. And now that
I am, I'm feeling better. My inner self is better
care even just doing something like this, which I enjoy
talking with y'all, checking this off my list of like
I love doing our podcast, and now I feel good.
(24:44):
My inner self is doing well, right Adelan, thank god.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, we're just working on the mental injuries.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, but this is contributing. This helps.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Adelan's my roommate, so she knows she knows best.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Kat. Where can people find you? Oh? I have it
up eight? My Instagram name you got rid of the period? Yes,
why did I ever have the period? I don't know.
The dot the dot cat dot defada, I don't know.
Maybe I thought it looked cool. But at kat van Buren.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Because van Buren's the married name, so at kat kat
van Buren. Like the president. He was the eighth President
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And he was short.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Adeline. Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Adeline E?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Doser which I should take out the e because I
was just I don't know should it was?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I did? Right?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
If you like it, keep it is for Elizabeth, which
is our shared middle name.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I love that name. I want to name my child Elizabeth.
You can well pat dressed to agree, will we give
you the okay?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And I am Radio Amy at Radio Amy's my handle
because Amy Brown was taken by a fairy artist.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You could have done it amy dot Brown.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I could have, but I don't know. I did Radio
Amy because it was back in the day and we
were like, what's the social media?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Who's going to even be on it? Who cares? True?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Right when Instagram started, it was like what is this?
And we were just like taking pictures of things with
filters and posting them, like the Nashville filter whichever. My
first Instagram I live in Nashville. I lived in North
Carolina in it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Do you remember what your first Instagram photo was? No,
mine was a watermelon basket. Do you remember yours?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Mine was a go pro picture of me skiing.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
On a box? Okay, that's cool. Actually was pretty cool.
But whatever? Did you have a filter on it? I
probably used the Nashville filter.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I think it had like little rainbow stuff in the
corners where it looks kind of pixeled.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It was edited, so you're cool. Well, look at what
yours was, Amy. It has to go way. Maybe a
lot of scrolling, but it's possible. Yeah, the time. But
there we go, full circle, full circle. All right, talk
to you all later.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Bye.
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