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December 3, 2019 31 mins

This is Amy’s ‘5th Thing’ (a bonus episode) where she answers your questions every Tuesday! ‘4 Things With Amy Brown’ comes out every Thursday, but on Tuesdays Amy answers questions you’ve emailed in. On today’s episode Amy addresses: eating meat again after being a vegan, getting into a healthy sleep routine when struggling with anxiety, what to do if you’re going to be in Pagosa Springs, Colorado and using stevia as a substitute in kid friendly foods.

 

You can send in questions directly to Amy here: 4thingswithAmybrown@gmail.com...maybe one week your question will be shared!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, So have a fun guest today for the fifth
Thing r Q and a episode, So Scooba, Steve Hi,
how's it going? Okay? He comes to us all the
way from California, just moved to Nashville and is now
the newest member of the Bobby Bones Show. Yes I
am yeah. So do you know anything about Four Things
with Amy Brown? I know that it's hosted by Amy

(00:22):
Brown and there are four things. Okay, So every Thursday
there's a four Things episode where I talk about four
totally different things. Sometimes it's an interview, which in fact,
this coming Thursday, I have an interview with Stephen Young,
who is the founder of Home Street Home, which is
an organization in Nashville that works with the homeless, and

(00:42):
he himself was homeless for five years. So I sat
down with him for all four Things. So sometimes it's
four totally random things, or it's a sit down with
one person about four things. And for him, we went
through his life before he was homeless and how he
ended up homeless because he had a he had had
a career, like, he had a life like he wasn't

(01:02):
it just everything kind of fell apart, and then what
life was like on the streets for five years, and
then how he got off the streets, and then now
how he cares for the homeless. This is the guy
we met at the charity event. Yeah, that's a really
cool story and that would be a show that I
would like to listen to. Yes, So, yeah, was Steve
and his wife. They came to the event and Pimp
and Joy was um a part of the night, and

(01:26):
it's yeah, I feel like it's a must listen for
a lot of people. And you know, something interesting that
he touched on is this time of year as a
time where we, uh, we want to give a lot
and serve others because we have the giving spirit and
we feel like we have so much and we've been blessed,
so it's time to give back. And you know, we
were just talking about how that's amazing and everything and

(01:46):
I'm guilty of it for sure, But he said his
phone is like blowing up right now, and he's like,
it's just, you know, it's hard because you know what
about March and April and May and June and July
when people are still homeless and they still need help.
But so he touches on some of that, which I
think you know, it's just some insight that we all

(02:07):
could use, especially if we're looking to help others. And
he said, he'll straight up, I don't want to run
too much of the podcast, but I feel like this
was impactful to me. Like he will ask people that
are calling right now that have big church groups that
want to come volunteer families and do whatever. And while
he wants the help and he appreciates it, he says,
do you really want to help the homeless? And they say, well, yeah, absolutely.

(02:27):
He said, Okay, call me back in February. Get the
same group of people, and come back in February, because
that is when you will be needed. Right now, you're
one of thousands where you can make more of an
impact if you just show up on the months where
it's pretty silent. So anyway, just something to sit on
if you're thinking of serving those um that have less
in your community. A lot of you are not listening

(02:50):
in Nashville, but wherever it is, and then definitely check
out Thursday's episode because that will be interesting. Another thing
just to um talk about. Oh well, I think I
was saying we have the four things on Thursday, but
this the Tuesday episode. It's what we called fifth Thing
where we do Q and A so I get less
emails from listeners with questions for things with Amy Brown
and gmail dot com and then sort through them and

(03:12):
then address them. And today we're going to do four questions.
So you'll read the question, I'll show the answer. But
before we get to that, I was just talking to Steve.
Do we do I call you Steve or Scooba Steve.
You can call me Steve in this setting. I feel
like Scooba Steve would because that's your on air personality
for your radio personality. Yeah, but this is my podcast personality.
So I'm Steve right now. Okay, So Steve, So Steve

(03:35):
and his wife there new to Nashville, and I know
and your wife is so sweet and I look forward
to meeting your son. I know y'all just brought him
here after Thanksgiving. You have he's held like a little
over a year and a half. Yeah, so crazy. Um,
so welcome, And I thought something we could do for
your wife to to welcome her hair as you need
to give her a four things tote to go along
with the fourth And now that you've you've I like

(03:57):
to give guests that have come on the podcast to
tote and so now that you're officially a guest, I'll
give you a tote that you can give it to
your wife. And so we were talking about the four things.
I know it's hard to come up with four things,
but I'm just gonna share with you all what we
used to help Steve do this. And we made some
cheat sheets which I have um on my Instagram, radio
Amy dot com or even shop a squaws Instagram where

(04:19):
we have like a picture of a tote so you
can see it, but then you can swipe to see
lists that we made that are super helpful. So Steve
was like, oh, I feel like a bad husband. I
can't think of the four things, but this is gonna
be a great gift that he can give his wife.
And so we went through the list and I just
started rattling stuff off the cheat sheet and you didn't
necessarily pick stuff from the list, but it helped trigger
things in your head to help you come up with it. So, uh,

(04:42):
one of the four things that's gonna be cute is
your son Elliott Son's name Boom. Then I think I
said something like Margarita or whatever, and you were like, no, no, no,
She loves whiskey, which I think whiskey is so cute
on a tote. So you got Elliott Whiskey. And then
friends is on the cheat sheet for sure, and you
were saying something about the office and I was like, well,
if she loves friends, friends is super cute on a
toe because we can write it like F dot are

(05:05):
dot just like the friends logo. Yeah, and she loves friends.
She just got her friends shoes or something. Did Kyrie
Irving makes these? He has different kind of shoes, like
he did SpongeBob SquarePants, but recently came out with a
Friends edition of his shoe and has like the color
scheme on the bottom and it's his friends on the back.
But yeah, they're pretty cool, and you got her and
now she'll have a toe to map. And then for

(05:28):
the fourth thing, we went with live music. And you
know on the cheat sheet it says like nineties hip hop,
nineties country whatever, country songs, country music, And then that
triggers So I bring this up because we're approaching the deadline,
like it's happening. The cutoff is soon. So if you're
struggling to come up with your four things and you
want to order totes his gifts. Um. Yeah, it's I

(05:51):
can't say the exact date because it just depends on
orders that come in. But Mary called me today and
said that it's going to be soon and it's zero
pressure to get a toe. Like we're forcing the toe,
but we just want to, you know, give you a
heads up in case you were wanting a toe. We
don't want anybody to be bummed that they missed the
cutoff in time to get it in delivery for Christmas.

(06:11):
I'll force the toad though, Okay, you're forcing it. Yeah,
I'll be your friend and force the totes, which I
hope your wife loves it. It'll be super cute and
she can carry it, probably knowing that our tote support haiti. Um.
So anyway, radio meat dot com if you want to
see where you can get a tote. But I guess
now that some housekeeping stuffs out of the way, let's

(06:32):
get to the questions. Steve will read the question from
the listener and then I will answer Carry it Away.
First question from CALLI, Hi, Amy, I have a random
question about how you ease your way back into eating
meat again after going a long time being mainly vegan.

(06:53):
Did you have a bad reaction. I would love to
hear more about your experience about this. Okay, So I
personally didn't have a bad action. Um, But I would
say during my vegan days, there was probably only a
year that I was super hardcore, and that's the year
I was trying to get pregnant, and I just went
full blown vegan gluten free. Um. Obviously, when you're vegan.

(07:13):
I was about to say dairy free, but there's no
dairy and when you're a vegan, I don't think. Um,
but I still wore leather. I'm sure I wasn't full
blown vegan. I guess consuming food wise, I was, and
then I just would be more vegetarian because sometimes I
would eat goat cheese and I just felt better. But
here's what I learned before I went vegan. I was

(07:36):
consuming meat that wasn't high quality, Like I didn't really
know the difference in quality meat versus which I get.
Not a lot of people have access to grass fed
beef or hormone free chicken, but I think it is
becoming a little bit more readily available, and if you
have the option, I would opt for that because I

(07:57):
was feeling crummy because of the type of meat I
was eating. So for me, I was like, now that
I'm vegan and vegetarian, I just feel great. But then
several years went by and I was just if I
ever craved meat, I would have it. Um, And I
never my stomach didn't get upset from it. And then
also I think because I dabbled with it once I
reintroduced it full full time. Um. Because now I have

(08:20):
meat almost every days, it doesn't affect me. But everybody's
digestion is so different, so you can't go based on me.
I would say if you want to reintroduce meat into
your life, that you do one product at a time.
You do it slowly. You try to reach for high
quality meat if you can, because I think that's just
overall gonna be better for our bodies in general. Um.

(08:41):
You can take food enzymes to support your digestion. I
take food enzymes no matter what, and maybe that's why
I've been taking those ever since I became a what's
the year I became a vegan. I also started taking
digestive enzymes because I was vegetarian vegan because of Kimberly
Snyder and she was a huge on uh pusher. She's

(09:02):
a pill pusher when it came to digestive enzymes, Like
she was big on probiotics every morning, so I do
hot limon water, then I would do her probiotics, and
then before every meal, I would do a food enzyme.
And she didn't have her own line back then, but
she now has her own line which is what I take,
and I have it on my Amazon page, which again
you can find that at radio mea dot com. But um,

(09:24):
I think food enzymes are super important. Uh, you could
also just take away the whatever prior thoughts you have
to meet because sometimes when you're not eating meat, you
can like think horrible things about it, which if you
are legit vegetarian, because she's like you don't or vegan
because you like are respecting the animals, Like I've all

(09:46):
the respect for you on that, Like that's why do you
you eat meat? Steve, Okay, but I have a cousins
of vegetarian and we accommodate her when we go out
to restaurants and make sure we pick things for her. Yes,
that's so thoughtful, because it's hard when you're the bed
you don't want to be the person. It's like that
terrible even go to Disneyland. They have now gluten free
menus and vegetarian menus, and so they make it easier

(10:07):
now when you can go out. I think we're living
in a different time where it is becoming a little
more accessible. But like something happens for me, at least
it did. I got really obsessed about how I was eating,
and it created a disordered like eating pattern because I
was so strict on what I would and wouldn't consume
that I was like hyper focused on ingredients and like

(10:28):
didn't want to eat this, and I thought if I
have because they said that this meat and this ingredient
and this that is bad for you. And while I
still think it's a general a good thing to keep
in your back pocket, it's like a general rule not
to consume certain things every once in a while. It's fine,
like your life is not going to end to me
over but in my brain it was like it was
an unhealthy Um, I was at an unhealthy place. So

(10:51):
for you, mentally, it might be that you need to
give yourself, like, you know, the permission to eat the
meat because you might have put up so many walls
and it's not just meat, it could be insert whatever
you've eliminated from your diet that you're bringing back in
and you can have a healthier relationship with it. UM. So,

(11:12):
but that's not for everybody. Not everybody that doesn't eat
meat has a disordered eating pattern. That's not what I'm
been playing at all. But for me, I did because
it developed all kinds of things that I was scared of, UM,
which made me think, I'm gonna pull up this Instagram,
Like literally, while we're recording this, I'm pulling it up. UM.
I follow the well Necessities. She's someone who's come on
my podcast before. She is super awesome when it comes

(11:35):
to UM trying to help people deal with eating disorders
and past eating in jars. And while this isn't related
to introducing meat back into your diet, it's pertaining to
food and this time of year. And we just wrapped
Thanksgiving and we've got Christmas coming up and all the
holiday parties and food. And she put this post up
on her Instagram that says, change your language, and she said,

(11:57):
these are things we say in our minds and a
loud oh, I'm sorry. She said, the things we say
in our minds and allowed have an effect on ourselves
and others so being be mindful, listen and monitor so
and like something we tell ourselves is I can't believe
I ate that, right. Well, you could switch it to
I'm proud of myself for eating and enjoying okay, and

(12:19):
then I'm so full. Okay, Oops, I overdid it. But
I know this feeling will dissipate soon. Because sometimes too,
when we're like I'm so full, I can't believe I
blew it, we just keep eating because we have that
horrible feeling and we don't want to feel that way
ever again, because of course then we're going to eat
clean for the rest of our lives. We're never going
to eat anything ever bad again. Right, Um, but just

(12:41):
say this is gonna go away soon. I don't need
to go crazy. Um, I have to work out extra tomorrow.
That's a lie we tell ourselves. And then she wants
you to switch it to food and exercise or not
an exchange system. My body knows what to do with
all food. Um. This helps just like take away the
anxiety and stress that's around this time of year when
you're around foods you normally aren't around, because that will

(13:05):
cause you to overeat again. It's causing you to have
an unhealthy relationship with the food, and then it'll like
stress doesn't help you. Stress can make you hold on
to wait as well. Um, So then here's another one.
I was so bad I have no self control? Will
change that too. It's just food, there's nothing more to it.
Who cares? Let it go. I never eat like this.

(13:27):
I am flexible with my food choices. Because that was me.
I was like, oh, I never eat like this. But
if I had a mentality of like, I'm flexible, go
with the flow. Whatever, Fine, I'll have some malted extron today.
I prefer to stay away from that ingredient. But if
it's in whatever I'm eating, who cares? Or it's like
a food additive that I think it just is not good,

(13:49):
But a lot of people put it. It's a preservative,
I think, and they put it. It's and from what
I have read, can be carcinogenic. So people are like,
stay away from it. But you can get obsessed to
where you don't. I just using that as an example.
Or maybe if you're going over to someone's house and
you're not sure that their beef you're serving you is
grass fed, well, okay, it's fine. It's okay, or if

(14:09):
you're eating um, you know, non organic ice cream, like,
don't lose your mind. It's fine. Um, but that's what
I would do to myself, and it was miserable. Um.
The last one is I can't eat that because and
then insert whatever reason and she wants you to change
that too. Um, I don't need to announce my dietary choices.
I am confident that it works for me and may

(14:30):
not work for another. So instead of I used to
do that to my family all the time and be like,
oh I can't eat that, sorry, but I should have
just been more go with the flow. And I feel
like this Thanksgiving and my husband was super proud of me,
was like the first holiday where I really didn't freak
out about or get mad at myself for eating certain
things or not. And I didn't overeat I would say

(14:53):
normally on Thanksgiving because I don't allow myself to have
certain things Thanksgiving your Christmas, I go crazy because I'm like,
this is my one dime or are But because I
had such a relaxed attitude about it, I really didn't
overdo it and I felt great, Like I woke up
the next day and I wasn't puffy and like because
sugar and sodium affect me big time and I can
see it in my face and you know, put my

(15:13):
jeans on the next day. All good. So anyway, that's
a sidebar to this question. But um, Callie, hopefully when
you do reintroduce me back into your life. Um, it's easy,
because it's a bummer because I know some people try
to do it and they do get sick for a
little bit. But I think your body will eventually adapt. Okay,

(15:42):
next question, Next question from read. I have a lot
of trouble with anxiety at night. I go to bed
at nine thirty and don't fall asleep until two or
three in the morning. I've been taking over the counter
sleep medication, but I don't want to rely on those
in the long term. I have heard you discuss how
you have taken xan x after your mother passed and
it help you sleep. Was it hard to wean yourself

(16:03):
off those? How did you get back into a normal
sleep routine. Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to not
be on relying on xan x anymore. Um, that was
like a rough time, and I totally understand needing it,
especially if you have the anxiety and all you do,
you just crave sleep. You just want to sleep. You
don't care how you get it. Um. But I wasn't

(16:24):
taking larger doses of zan X and I never upped
my UH dosage. Like a lot of times, you get
used to it and you have to up it. So
I never upped it. So thankfully, getting off of it
was not hard for me, but I know other people were.
It's a serious thing, and my doctor took it very seriously.
You do not want to get hooked on that because
you can so, I think because I was monitored by
a doctor who took it seriously. And then you know,

(16:46):
I was aware of it myself because I didn't want
to personally be on it. I don't want to be
on something like that long term. Um, but it was nice.
I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't have survived that time.
I don't think I would have slept at all if
I did and have it. And then sometimes I would,
you know, drink wine to not recommended, right, which I
would say that's one thing to beat anxiety for a

(17:08):
better night's sleep is to stay away from alcohol. I
thought it was making you better, but long term it's
actually horrible and alcohol disrupture sleep before bed, so steer
clear of that. Um. I think that having a nightly
routine is super important. Follow Adam Bobo on Instagram. He
posts about this A lot A D A M b

(17:28):
O b oh Um. That's his handle and that's his name.
But he he's come on the podcast before, and he
comes on the Bobby Bones Show. Now he's nurse Bobo.
It's kind of becoming a regular. But he has lots
of tips for sleeping. But I would say make sure
that during the day, you're moving, you're staying busy, you're exercising.

(17:50):
Your body needs all of that stuff for a healthy routine.
And then get yourself tired before bed, and then take
a take a hot bath. Um, and don't watch TV.
If you have to be on your computer. Try to
get some blue block or glasses. That's what Bobo recommends.
I got some too, They're helpful. Um. No coffee after

(18:11):
like one or two PM. No caffeine, so cut that.
Like all that stuff, all these stimulants might be sneaking
their way into your diet and you're not realizing how
it's affecting your sleep. Um, keep your bedroom cool. I'm
just spitting off like different tips that you know we've
even talked about on the podcast before um with Bobo
or different articles. But I think electronic devices, TV, blue light, UM, quiet, Like,

(18:38):
how is anything on in your room? Do you have
any lights? Like for me, my daughter sometimes she's right
above me and I can tell when she's not sleeping
because she's making so much noise and you have to
go upstairs and be like, Mama is trying to get
some sleep. You've got to stop. But like my husband
got a fan for a room, like a little cute
table fan and it's kind of loud, so either like

(18:59):
a fan that just drack some of the outside noise
or a noisemaker. Yeah, we do. We have waves in
our house, so it sounds like the waves crashing all
night long and it's so relaxing. Perfect. So something like that, um,
because my hope is that you wouldn't you won't need
to turn to something like xan X or a medication.
You can take magnesium melatonin. Um, So there's I mean,

(19:25):
I know Bobo even recommended some magnesium pill. He may
have it on his Instagram page, but I think Bobo
even mentioned something on the Bobby Bun show recently where
he talked about everybody has a morning routine like you
wake up, you brush your teeth, you wash your face,
you shower, you get dressed, you go to work like,
you make your breakfast, your coffee like. But at night
we're all over the place. And he's right, like nothing.

(19:48):
If we could become more structured and routine with our
night time schedules would be much better for us because
sleep is so important. Sleep is trumping, I mean, Bobo says.
I mean he works with pro last fleets and country
stars and all kinds of people, and he's starting to
recommend eight to ten hours of sleep, especially for the
pro athletes, because their bodies are working so hard they

(20:09):
need that ten hours to recover. Um and we just
don't prioritize sleep. But how many hours do you think
you get, because I mean we've worked weird hours. Yeah,
I would say I try to get at least six
or seven, and it doesn't seem to work for me.
If I get a good, solid eight, I feel fully
re energized the next day. But six or seven on average.
Do you do you have trouble falling asleep? Yes? I do? Yeah, Okay,

(20:33):
do you have any tricks. Uh, none that you have mentioned.
Usually for me, and I don't know if it's popular,
but CBD for me works. Yeah, no, I gave. I
was sitting here, like, can I mention CBD? Is it
something that's okay to California. It's it's definitely very pro
that and beyond. But CBD works for me. It works. Wonders.

(20:54):
Do you have a particular kind that you use or
I usually will go for particular brand. It's called Cooshy
Punch okay, and I don't think you can get it
outside of California, but they have CBD and that and
it will. Like, my biggest problem is I can't turn
my brain off. I'm constantly thinking about the next day,
what we have to do for work, what my wife needs,
what my son needs, all these different things. So for me,

(21:14):
CBD kind of mutes all that and helps me quiet
down and turn off. Yeah. No, that's super helpful. I
um I was worried about having twenty three people at
my house for Thanksgiving because my dog is crazy town
and um my, one of the guests coming over was like, Hey,
I know how your dog can be, So I'm going

(21:34):
to bring some CBD oil for your dog, and she
gave it to car up my dog, and she was
so chill. It was so perfect, Like I was. I
couldn't believe it. And I was like, whatever that is,
we're buying it. I need a whole bottle, And is
there any for me because is it safe for me
to take whatever the dog version is? Because I couldn't

(21:56):
believe how well behaved she was. And yeah, we had
tons of people in our house and she was chill.
That just chills them out and there's nothing wrong that
it's fully natural and it's totally okay for them and
for us to Yeah, I love it. Okay, um, all right,
next question? Alright, this is from Carly. Ever since I
heard your sister moved to Pagosa Springs, Colorado, I had

(22:16):
to know more. I've been researching this adorable town you
first mentioned it, and my husband and I are now
planning a trip to Pagosa this summer, hopefully over the
fourth of July. Any tips you or your sister could offer,
we of course we'll be checking out Root House coffee,
but any hiking, outdoor activities, anything you could help him
out with that? Okay, Well, first of all, I'm obsessed

(22:37):
with Colorado, especially Pagosa Springs. Like my family go there
every summer, every Christmas, in fact, we're going there and
a couple of weeks for Christmas, and uh, there's airbnbs galore,
so you shouldn't have a have trouble finding a place
to rent. Um, there's some hotels, I mean, and there's
the hot springs, like the resort there, but I feel

(22:58):
like a quaint little air and Airbnb would be fine.
My sister used to actually airbnb out her house until
they moved there full time. So now I don't do
that anymore, but I know that there's cute places. Um.
And then speaking of the hot springs, that's definitely an
activity you have to do. It's like have you ever
soaked in a hot spring? Oh? Yeah? In Florida where
I grew up, there's hot springs everywhere. Yeah. So these
are right in the middle of town. And my sister's

(23:20):
coffee shop actually root House Coffee, It's it's right by
the springs, so you can go grab yourself with coffee.
Then you can go, um, enjoy that on the patio,
and then once you're done, like go down the hot
springs soak. You can soak in the summer or in
the winter, so you can soak when it's snowing and
you're like in a bikini or a swimsuit or whatever,
like and it's snowing with a beanie on. It's so fun.

(23:41):
But if you're going around Fourth of July, which I
think is awesome. We went this last fourth of July.
We typically try to go around that time of year
if our vacation falls around that that time. But they
have the cutest town parade and it's like the quintessential
small town parade um. So that's a great time of
year to go. And there is tons of hiking. I
would say you can just ask any local the names
of the trails, like my family has done pretty much

(24:04):
all of them. I I just can't think of I
know that there's one like Opal Lake. There's Reservoir Hill,
which isn't a major hike, but there's Piedra Falls. I
hope I'm saying these right. But once you're in the town,
even if you just go to my sister's coffee shop
and you're like, hey, I want to hike, Like anybody
working there is a local, and they're gonna be able
to tell you, like the bus places to go hike,
and then, um, a great place to have dinner if

(24:26):
you and your husband want to go on a date
is Alley House, which my husband's sister's husband or my
husband's sister, I guess because she's a part of it too.
They're like part owners in Alley House. They just became
the owners there. And my nephew is a bus boy
and my niece as a hostess and then so you
might see them there at night. But they also both
work at the coffee shop too. So it's just a

(24:48):
small town. Everybody has like five jobs and they all
do everything, like especially in the winter, like I'll see
people working on the ski mountain at Wolf Creek that
normally work at, you know, the fly fishing shop in
the summer. Are you from Pagosa Springs in Austin, Texas? Okay,
so your family just moved, but I feel like a
lot of people from Texas they go there. Yeah, my

(25:10):
husband's family they have like a vacation house there, and
then my sister, Um, they used to go there like that,
but then they moved their full time from Austin. They
call it that part Southern Colorado. A lot of people
called North Texas because everybody migrates there, um in the
summer because Texas gets so hot, or they all go
there in the winter because it's you can drive there,
you don't have to fly. I mean some it can

(25:32):
be a thirteen hour drive, but if you're taking a
whole family on vacation, it's helpful to be able to
just take a straight shot up to Colorado and not
have to fly. Um, And it's just quaint and a
lot to do. But yeah, when you're driving around, you
just see Texas license plates like everywhere. Um, so I
highly recommend you. Yeah, I've never heard of it, but
that sounds really cool. Yeah, people all run into Carli

(25:52):
out there and your sister and your sister in law's husband,
and my brother in law and my sister. Yeah in
the whole both brother in law's I never know what
to hall my husband sister's husband because my sister's husband's
my brother in law and my husband sisters my sister
in law. But who's her husband my sister in law's husband,
who's on first? Okay, next question and this is actually

(26:14):
the final question. All right, this is from Pam. Hey, Amy,
I have come to love the liquid stevia you recommended.
My question is do you think it's good for kids
as well? Do you use it in things for your kids?
I really hate putting sugar and drinks and other food
that needs sweetening for my children, but I have always
heard such negative reports and the impacts of sugar substitutes,

(26:36):
specifically for children. So I haven't given them anything but
sugar when needed, but I'd love to throw out the
sugar altogether. What are your thoughts? Okay, Pam, I'm no expert,
but I do use the liquid stevia for things with
my kids. My son will tolerate it, it's fine. My
daughter can't stand it. Somehow she picks out the taste.

(26:56):
She's the pickiest eater, and she her palate is so
I wouldn't say it's a sophisticate or anything. She can
dissect and be like, what's in here that's not normally? Yeah?
What is this? Like? I can't, I can't, I can't
have this, Like she wants all the white sugar. She
she like loses her mind that we don't keep sugar
in our pantry, but I just don't. I mean, I
have like coconut sugar, but I don't just have straight

(27:18):
you know, processed white sugar in the pantry, and I
don't know where she really even learned about that, but
she's like, why don't we keep sugar in our house?
Or she'll go like to our cousins houses and she's like,
they have sugar in their finger. I mean, she would
straight up just stick a spoon in there if she could.
And I'm like, well, that's exactly why it is, because
you I don't want to use that type of sugar. Um.

(27:40):
Although back to the first thing we talked about, if
we happen to eat something with process sugar, it's not
the end of the world. But if I can control
what I'm baking at home, I'm gonna try to make
sure the ingredients are um uh, what I would want
for my kids. Um. We do do honey, and you
do maple syrup, which those that's sugar, but both natural

(28:03):
forms of sugar. Nothing you know, too crazy, um. And
then I'll do the liquid stevia. And I don't think
there's anything wrong with your kids consuming a good honey
and a good maple syrup. Um, you just have to
watch how much they're consuming. Um. But liquid stevia so
far in my family has not been harmful, so I
would say that it's fine. And I do like the

(28:24):
New Naturals non alcohol version, which that I do have
on my Amazon page two. So a lot of times
people are wondering specifically what I use, and that's up
there so that way there's no confusion. And again that's
Radio Amy dot Com for that. But I mean, who knows.
You know, in five years they might be like liquid
Stevia's the devil, don't care for you, and they're like

(28:49):
I could kill you. You're like, all right, cool, I
know asked like diet Coke was too good to read true,
the Oscar tame, and or even like Splenda. For so
many years I used Splenda and thought it was so
oh great, and then now you hear horrible things about Splenda.
So I try to anything that I promote or really like,
I try to always put a disclaimer like, look, not
an expert here. The people that I trust and listen

(29:11):
to you, um, they recommend this product, and so I'm
going to recommend it with a disclaimer that in five years,
I don't know what they're going to say about Stuvia.
I do a little Sipper is someone she's come on
the podcast before. That's her Instagram handle, but her name's
Bethany and she has major digestive issues and um she can.

(29:33):
She is not a fan of stuvia and she thinks
it's horrible and it can cause people to be bloated
and have all kinds of issues. I don't have that
experience with Stevia. And sometimes she'll even DM me, I
know when I'm posting something with like lickod stevia or whatever.
She was like Amy, because I love this dreek Zevia.
Oh Zevia, shout out. If you're a regular listener, you know,
we try to not go an episode without without mentioning it,

(29:54):
which I didn't plan on mentioning it at all. But
normally my friend Chase or if Mary or my husband
if we're young, like an episode together we like crack
open a can of Zevia. But it's a it's a
non there's no sugar in it. It's made with splenda
are not slenda. It's made with stevia, so it doesn't
have sugar. But it's like a flavored drink, kind of

(30:15):
like a Croy but way better like Roy is, Like
you know, it just drove by some oranges and you
pick up the flavor like ZVA is like Legit tastes
like orange drink or orange soda, but no sugar. And
I just know that one day we're going to hear
that they're bad, But for now I'm drinking them and

(30:38):
so far, so good. Um. All right, well, Steve, thank
you podcast, Steve, thank you. I appreciate that. But if
you hear him on the Bobby Bone Show, he's Scooba. Steve,
thank you for joining me. And I'm glad that people
will get to know you, um here a little bit
and then definitely on the Bobby Bone Show and we're
super excited to have you. And um, I'll put together

(30:59):
this four things so for your wife and you can
wrap it up, give it you over Christmas like you
came up with them. Just all did? Yeah? I did, totally. Yeah.
Don't listen to this, baby, but do listen to it.
I mean, but if you've already listened to it, it's
too late, too late, Okay, Well, we hope you'll have
a great day. And um, any parting words, Steve, peace,

(31:20):
grease and chicken east? Is that how you say it? No,
I've never heard that. I think I'm saying it wrong.
It's something like peace, grease, and chicken. Great. I don't
even know what it is. Okay, it was cool if
I could say it right, but I said it wrong,
so not mistake.

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