September 26, 2019 • 58 mins
FIRST THING: @Hillaryscottla from Lady Antebellum is here to chat with Amy about all the things! Up first is all music and how music is therapy! Hillary shares her Favorite Lady A song (as well as which song she would stop performing if she was forced to pick one), the heartfelt story behind “Thy Will be Done” and how music & therapy help her with navigating a hectic life! SECOND THING: How does a super successful singer/songwriter/entrepreneur balance family, the band & her career?? We don’t want give away too much here, but we will say that we love her perspective on raising her precious 3 kids while pursuing dreams. THIRD THING: Amy & Hillary both have a heart for Haiti (specifically MyLifeSpeaks in Neply), which really shines through during their discussion on faith and what that looks like in their lives. FOURTH THING: Bring on the gratitude! Hillary shares 4 things that she is most grateful for in her life right now and how much she values the relationships in her life.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, little food for you. So life. Oh it's pretty,
but it's pretty beautiful. Laughs, a little mom you're kicking
(00:30):
with four brown Okay, so this is exciting. I have
Hillary Scott from Lady Antebelle. I'm sitting down with me
for four things. Yes, and the stuff that um we're
going to cover today is music, family, faith, and gratitude.
I love those things. And you know it's a Hillary Scott.
I mean obviously you know. She's a singer, she's a songwriter,
(00:52):
she's a wife, she's a mom, you're a friend, You're
all the things. She's adorable and precious and has a
good style like you. You have your own clothing line, yes,
which I'm super jealous of. I know that we're not
supposed to be jealous. I'm supportive at the same time.
Thank you. I wish you the best of a lot.
But you get to go on the Home Shopping Network. Yes,
that's like a dream. It is so fun. I mean
(01:13):
so totally different than a show, you know, interview anything.
I mean, it's live. It's like live live, and I
just get to talk about all of these amazing pieces
that I've designed and why why I love them, and
what my inspiration was, and so it's just a whole
another creative outlet for me. Um that I am loving.
And your line is a boho chic it's totally damn yeah,
(01:37):
thank you. It's amazing and yeah, it's one of my
you know how you have those bucket list things like
either QVC hin home, yeah, home shopping, nut work, the
same thing, but just to go on there and I
don't know, sell something and have people call in and
be like hey, Cindy and Charlotte like how's it going?
And then she's like, I want to buy five at
those boho sweaters. Yeah, I don't know. And the other
(02:00):
thing too is you can see like the ticker of
how many are selling, how many you're selling, and there's
something so like just the adrenaline rush of that. You're like, oh,
they're really loving the jacket. Oh my gosh, they're really
loving that top. And so it gives you immediate feedback,
which is really cool. I love it. It's awesome. Okay,
so clothing line, my you know, we're I envy. Well,
(02:23):
I also envy that you can sing like an angel beautiful.
So there's so many things about you that I I
covet and I'm not supposed to, but um, let's get
into the music first. I'm curious. I try to think of,
like when I think of Lady Antebellum, I think of
when The Bobby Bones Show first moved to Nashville, y'all
(02:46):
had a Downtown was fairly new, and obviously I knew
y'all even we were pop because before we came country,
we were popping Austin and we played Need You Now
on our top forty station, and you know so in plus,
I loved country music, so it's very familiar with what
you all did. But right we got here, downtown came
out and we were obsessed with it, and we made
our own office video. I'm sure you never saw it.
(03:08):
It's on YouTube. I have we. I can't remember somebody.
We had a coffee pot. I think I maybe had
the coffee pot with a drumstick, and it was like
we tapped it and we filmed all around the office
and we would sing and we were I don't know,
I have we. We sang like I'm pretty sure it
was our vocals. I probably need to go back and
watch it too, but I was you, Oh my gosh,
(03:30):
I don't know why, you know, paying me downtown, like
you got anywhere better to be, which I'll play the
real one here? This is probably better. Okay, here we go, Yeah, lucky,
this is a jam you. So you know, when you
have big life moments, forever associate it with that. And
so for me, when I hear Downtown, I picture our
(03:53):
first a few months here and like being welcomed into
country music and us making fun video and trying to
probably be like hey, probably trying to get y'all's attention, like, oh,
I wonder if they'll ever see it and tweet us back.
I don't know if y'all did, but somebody from your
camp tweeted us, which a good job. Shout out to him. Um.
So that's one of my favorite Ladies songs. So I'm curious, like,
(04:16):
what what is your favorite song you've ever recorded? Man,
that's a really hard question. I mean, I like so
many of them for different reasons, but if I had
to pick one that I just truly I'm still so
proud of lyrically, melodically, like the the connection to the crowd,
even to this day when we perform it live, it
would be I Run to you our first number one.
(04:37):
Yeah we um we wrote that with Tom Douglas, and
he is just a prolific songwriter, um, just amazing poet.
I mean, he's just a deep well of wisdom and
really amazing lyrics. And so we wrote with him that
day and and he had this poem, I run from hate,
I run from prejudice, I run from all of these things.
(04:59):
And for us to artists, you know, we were I
was twenty when the band started, and we released our
first album when I was twenty one, and you know,
in my early twenties, but really wanting to say some
big things. And this was a message song that that
Charles and Dave and I were really passionate about. Um,
so I render you. Yeah, Okay, well then I guess
I know what you're not going to eliminate. So we
(05:20):
play this fun game with artists sometimes, like we did
it with Dirk Spinley on The Bobby Bones Show recently.
And it kind of seems bad because it's like one
of your songs, but it's kind of fun to play. Also,
it's like which one would you eliminate? Yes? And I
only bring this up now because I Run to You
was on a list that we had for the Lady Antebellum.
So we have bartender need you Now, you look good
(05:43):
and I run to you. Oh man, Oh no, I
would pick a different one, Oh would you? Okay, so
which song would you? If? I would? If I could
eliminate one. And I think it's just because it's it
was our second single and we've been singing it for
thirteen years. It would be looking for a good Time. Okay.
I loved the video. I love shooting the video. It
was really fun. But that's just one that that out
(06:04):
of all of the songs we've ever recorded, it's just
not my favorite. Yeah, I know, we appreciate the honesty.
I mean, do you like some artists sometimes you ask
is there everest song you get tired of playing? And
then you know you either get there just two answers.
This one that's like, No, that song made my career.
I'm moreever grateful for it. I will continue to play
it the rest of my life and smile on my face.
That's how I feel about it. Need You Now for sure,
(06:25):
like it is one of those that I never get
tired of. Um, we will never be that band who's like, no,
we're not going to play that one second you hear
stories of like other other bands that are like, Okay,
we won't sing this song unless you pay us this
much more because we've played it so many times, and
I'm like, that's crazy, like honor the song and what
it brought to your career. And so we we really
(06:47):
try to do that every night. And and it's still
the biggest live moment of this I mean, it's the
biggest crowd moment of the show. It's just it is,
and I love that, and it's if it's one of
the ones that it's going to connect with the crowd.
Like Garth Brooks said many times on the show that
like he's going to play the hits if you come
to his concert, he knows what you're there for, and
he's there to put on a good show and make
(07:07):
you happy. And then Bobby one time went to Ari
M's like a slight private Ari M thing, and he
was so pumped about it because he's a big fan. Yes,
I'm pretty sure, Sorr, I Um, don't quote me if
it wasn't, sorry, ari Um, you're not even listening. So uh.
And he got there and he was like front row
and it was like super awesome, and they played a
(07:27):
whole new album, not even one that you would know.
I mean, it was great because the new stuff, like sure, fine,
but it was all brand new. It hadn't even played,
which I get it if you're at some album releasing, sure,
but throw a bone in. You said exactly how I feel.
It's like when I mean, we are entertainers truly. I mean, yes,
we're artists, but when you do a live tour, you like,
(07:48):
you know your room, You've got to read the room.
We're entertainers, and so we we need to to do
our part in that and make sure that they hear
the songs that they want to hear. Yeah, this is
this is my this is my song that I would
want to hear you sing, and I just I need
you and your family for it, and it's I will
thank you. So I'm gonna turn this up. Guy, let
(08:13):
a play for a second. It's so beautiful, um, I mean,
and I know that that's a special song for you,
So it's something. This is a totally different project than
Lady A. Like you've got Lady A, but then you
sing with your family too, and so that song also
(08:35):
too for those that don't know, I mean, I know
the meaning behind it or where it came from, so
it makes it even more special. But I want you
to share with people it may not know kind of
where you were at the time that you wrote that
song and recorded it, and then what it's done for you,
because I know that it's done so much for people
(08:57):
that have listened to it, because music is therapy is
and so let's talk a little bit about thy will.
Absolutely well, thank you for saying that. Um, that Will
is a song that so several years ago, the my
bandmates and I decided we were we've been a band
for nine years. We're going to take a little bit
of just a little sabbatical UM and Charles had some
(09:18):
songs that he wanted to record. And I've been really
just because I grew up in a musical household. Both
my parents sing and write songs, and I have been
in touring. You know, they were both in Reba's band.
I have always dreamed of doing a record with them.
And so through the loss of my grandfather to leukemia, UM,
my dad kind of had this idea of making this
(09:40):
album that we could share as a family to those
who really walked us through that. And when he shared
that idea with me and I said, well, if we
do this, I want the world to be able to
hear it. And I wasn't really sure about if I
was going to write for it, you know, singing songs
about my faith and belief in God and love for him. Um,
it's I get really in sational and it's it's a
(10:01):
part of me that's just extremely raw and vulnerable. And
so I wasn't sure if I was gonna write. And then, um,
not knowing that, you know, in the process of making
this album, UM, that my husband I would miscarry our
second pregnancy. So my daughter Eisley is six and she
was born in two thousand thirteen, and then we had
a miscarriage in two thousand fifteen when we were recording
(10:22):
this album. And so um, I went into the to
the writing room with Bernie Hermes and Emily Wise Band
in the middle of of walking through this miscarriage and
just I had, you know, had been praying through the
the whole journey, just really at such a low point
of just you ask yourself, like whether it's pregnancy loss
(10:44):
or in fertility, it's like, what have I done? Is
there's something I could have done different? Or you know,
you just you have a tendency to really beat yourself
up sometimes about it, and and I as I was
praying through it, UM, the Lord just kept giving me
that phrase or that sentence that will be done. And
so every time I would really try to go to
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pray to talk to him about how I was feeling,
it would just come over me like that will be done.
And so I shared that story with them UM in
the writing room that day, and that's that's where we
wrote the song. And and it's really I mean, it's
one of those experiences that I I'm just so thankful
(11:26):
for the journey, even the parts that have been the
most heartbreaking, UM, and for this song, you know, just
seeing the beauty come from ashes, you know, I really
I have. And to a point that it's hard to
even fathom the number of emails and tweets and d
m s and all of the you know, the ways
people have contacted me, sharing stories with me and meet
(11:49):
and greets about their own journey and through whether it
be pregnancy loss or just grieving someone UM that they lost,
or just going through a hard time. Like anytime we're
here in that place of like asking questions like I'm
so confused, I thought, I was on the path that
you would put me on. And you know, just asking
those questions that I really feel are fair to ask
(12:13):
and and those are where you know, if you really
press in, your faith is deepened through them. And so um, yeah,
just to see to see and hear the stories has
been the most humbling and beautiful thing. Yeah. And I
think you being able to put that into words, into
such a beautiful song and then for people to hear
that it it can help them in that process of
(12:35):
surrendering because it is so hard to just let let
it go and surrender and be like okay, I will
be done whatever. And so yeah, and in music and
you have that gift like it's I don't. I can't.
I can't write, I can't sing. I try to, you know,
journal They talked about how journaling is so important, but
(12:57):
I can't. I'm intimidated by it because I can't. I
haven't been able to put my thoughts to paper. But
you are an advocate. Well, I'll encourage you to put
your thoughts to paper. But I mean, I know everyone
has their different strengths and whatever, but I mean for
those of you that can um put a song out
there like that and be so vulnerable and share your
(13:18):
story and then it be a song of healing to
other people and help them get through it. And you know,
music is therapy. It's kind of what we're saying. You know.
A second ago is that it in therapy is a
whole other thing in itself, like music can't be your
only form, that it can be a part of healing
for people. That can be like step one. Maybe even
(13:38):
just hearing a song like that opens it breaks open
your heart in a different way. Um for sure. And yeah,
I think therapy could be another a fifth thing. I
know it's four things, but four things. We can tie
therapy into music since music is therapy because yeah, I
think some people there's there's a stigma surrounded by it.
(14:00):
But I mean if if a song can touch you
emotionally and can open you up, then if you want
to dig a little deeper, you can dig deeper and see, Okay,
what's what us is under there? And you know, yeah,
I'm a big fan of therapy. I mean you've done
on site right Okay, I said, Bobby went did that too.
(14:23):
It is and life changing and and I did an
individual and intensive you know kind of four day thing quickly.
For those that are listening, it's a really it's like
adult therapy camp. Um. You go away depending on how long.
But Bobby talked out on the Bobby bun Chill a
little bit. He went away for you know, four or
five days, and you know, cell phone, no connection. It's
(14:44):
really intense, and so you just dig into all the
things because for me, I feel like I got to
my thirties and couldn't out run you know, work had
kept me busy, getting married, having starting a family, um,
traveling around. It's like you you can keep yourself busy
and distracted for so long until that all becomes like
your routine. And then once that hit me when I
(15:06):
got into my thirties, it was like, Okay, I'm seeing
some patterns here. I'm seeing some ways in which that
I'm unable to grow through or not able to forgive
or whatever the situation. Maybe I can't outrun my junk anymore,
you know. And that's where on Site came in and
really helped me break through to that next level of
(15:27):
of really um embracing who I am with no shame
and with no guilt, and just giving me the tools
to to be able to move forward, UM, and live
a healthier life and be a healthier version of me
and take care of myself better and the people around
me and um put boundaries down and you know, all
(15:50):
these different things and it is I mean, I love
on site. It was life changing for me. UM. But
finding just a therapist that you trust and can talk to.
Everyone needs it. And don't wait for a crisis to
do it. If you'll hear anything I say today, don't
wait for a crisis to go because how you like,
(16:11):
if you go and get prepared and get educated and
you get to know yourself better, you will handle a
crisis better. You know, UM, you navigator that trauma. Yeah,
And I think it's not always accessible to everybody, but
I wonder, I mean, because you may not always be
able to go to a therapist or whatever, but maybe
just having like friends that you can really confide in
(16:32):
or books that you can get your hands on and
just be prepared. Absolutely. But I feel like for some
people a lot of times it starts with the music.
I feel like that can tug. It's so crazy how
powerful instruments and voices. I mean, storytelling some of the moments,
most of the moments where I feel the closest to God.
It's with music, Like it's listening to music, worship music.
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Sometimes I'll think, actor my mom died. I thought, I'm fine,
I'm fine, I can go to church. I'm fine. I
get to church, they play, you know, some song that
makes me think. I mean, I'm like sitting down balling,
crying because you can't. You just it just touches you
in such a way. We're like, Okay, maybe I'm not
ready for prison worship time, but I mean, but then
there's a there's a time for it. But it's crazy
how it just you can touch you. Do you have
(17:15):
places where you go and do you have cry places
in my house and my closet. Yeah, okay, I'm that
you might pass me on the road someday and I'm
just like tears streaming down my face. I feel like
that's where I um have my quiet time. Like when
I'm driving, I'll listen to music or listen to podcast
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or just kind of in the quiet and that's where, um,
I think my focus is so on something, you know,
driving down the road, getting somewhere safely, but my mind
can kind of really think, um deeper into things. And
because at home right now. I mean, you know, having
two children at home, like we have three, very it's
(17:57):
a lively, incredible home, but it's not very quiet. So
having the car to be a place of quiet is nice. Yeah,
I love that car. Once the closet. Everybody, just find
your space, especially if you have a hectic family. Which
family is what we're going to get into net perfect Okay,
(18:24):
So family wise, it's almost like you have two families.
You have, um, you know, your lady a family, and
then you've got like your family family, So there's David
Charles and then there's you know, your husband and your
three kids. And so how do you find that that balance?
That's a great question, you know. I Um, I think
(18:44):
you're always searching for the balance. And I think when
you have children and every few months they're growing and
changing and their needs are different, you kind of have
to just it's an ever evolving thing. But I will
say I mean full transparency. I feel like I'm a
perforated page, Like if you look at me as in
my I'm a perforated page being pulled by both arms
(19:08):
from a career and a family. Careers pulling the left arm,
families pulling the right arm. And and so I've learned
with my personality like to to not feel like both
arms are I'm not that I'm about to not get
split in half. I have to find things that in
tools that helped me ground and helped me um prioritize
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and not feel spread too thin. And so that's been
what this last season has been for me, like with
bringing two new babies into the house and and at
once and they're the same age and twins, it is
just crazy and it's awesome. Um. And then at the
same time, like shortly after having twins, we started working
on new music and you know, signed with a new
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record label and went on tour and went to Vegas
for the residency. So I mean there's just been a
lot going on at once over this past year. And um,
so figuring out that no is is an okay word
to say sometimes um, probably more times than reading typically
a yes, I'm very much like yes, like if you're
(20:12):
okay with me, I'm okay, Yeah, what are you on
the Instagram? Yeah, So very much like a true too.
I have a hard three wing achiever, like love to
you know, love my career and love getting to do
that and and being ambitious that way. But but yeah,
to my core, I'm a too um so being able.
(20:33):
So some of the tools to help keep you grounded
or about so would be knowing that's okay to say no,
what are some other things you do to stay grounded?
And knowing that it's that it's okay to just say
what I need Sometimes most times, you know that the
best gift I can give others is knowing what I need.
And that's whether it's to your husband, anybody, or to
David Charles. Yeah, and and then just being able to
(20:56):
be fully present, um when I am in each place.
You know, my my family hasn't toured with us nearly
as much as I thought they would this past year
because I realized, like for me to be able to
be fully present and do my job to the best
of my ability, and above that, what was best for
my girls and my husband was for them to be
in a home routine. So being the parent that leaves,
(21:19):
you know a few days a week has been um
has been an interesting transition. And and you know, my
husband and I were in the band together for seven years.
He was our drummer, and so we went from being
together every single day in our work environment to now
you know, I'm hopping in and out of town and
he's full time dad at home, so yeah, and he
(21:40):
is incredible at it. I mean, now is that something?
And I'm speaking total like stereotypes here. This is just
no people, if you're listening, don't email me mad. It's
not me speaking. This is me speaking for like the
stereotype because for my husband, for him too, I didn't
know if this was something that has been a struggle
or your husband. Was it kind of a no brainer,
(22:01):
like no problem, I'm gonna stay home, or was it like, well, okay,
I guess this makes sense because I mean, you're an
amazing thing, or you're in this band and you've got
to go on tour and it's like that's the life.
You can't really just you know, say okay, pause, thank
you too. So you know, because I'm trying to picture there,
maybe some girls listening, their women listening there in a
(22:23):
similar situation and their husbands are like, uh no, like
I work, I'm a man, like I bring, I'm the
bread and the butter. Like it's and it's such a
society thing that fluckily is starting to get broken because
I feel like even for you as a career woman
and a mom, Like, there's probably a lot of times
you get the question of you know, and I was asking, Okay,
how do you balance your two families? Like you've got
(22:43):
David Charles and then your family family, So it's like,
you know, when you're juggling that. But I feel like
me as a career mom, sometimes it's like, well, how
do you do it all? But I mean nobody's asking
my husband how he does it all? Right, that's a
very good point. Yeah, I mean he's with the kids
just as much as I am. And we split and
he's working and I'm working, and we have we have
a nanny and she's like our third arm. I don't
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even have that word is. I struggled to even say
it then because I never thought I would have a nanny,
because that's just I always thought when I grew up,
because of how I grew up, that I was gonna
stay at home mom. But I didn't know it's going
to have the career that I have that would enable
me to kind of have my hand in a lot
of different things and be the best you for everybody. Yeah,
by doing that and making that decision, I think, you know,
(23:26):
for my husband, um And, And to to kind of
answer your question, I feel like every relationship is its
own beast, you know, um And And I think you
as long as you're being honest with yourself and each other,
like you'll find your rhythm and what works for your family.
But but for for us. Before I met my husband,
when he was a little boy, he remembers at eight
(23:48):
years old thinking about how excited he was to be
a dad, and then over the course of his early
you know, teens into college, like, he has memories of
thinking like, if I ever if I my family ever
looked like, you know, in such a way that I
would need to stay home and raise our kids, like
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I would be okay with that. So I firmly believed,
by God's grace, he kind of started working on his
heart and totally unbannounced to him or me that we
would be married, you know, and be in the situation
that we're in. And so he you know, he's a unique,
um incredible kind of person to have noticed and recognized
(24:32):
that about himself from a very very early age. And
I thank the Lord every single day that he's that way,
because there are a lot of men who are like
no way I love my work. I love what I'm doing.
I love providing in this way for our family, But
can I tell you, like the ways in which that
my husband is providing for us on a daily basis
(24:54):
are the this Like I kind of envisioned them like
seeds being planted, that that we won't really see them
grow fully until our girls are older. Like I had
this epiphany a couple of weeks ago, like my girls
are getting their dad every day for the most formative
years of their life, like zero to five. My oldest
(25:17):
is now six, and I just can't imagine the how
strong they're gonna be as women when they get older,
how it's gonna like direct their path wherever they go,
wherever life takes them. Um, And I realized that there
will be another season of their life where they're gonna
like it'll be like, mom, how do I get through?
(25:39):
You know? Fill in the blank. And I am very
present and I'm home several days a week, but they're
getting their daddy every day and it's so sweet. And
you you have two ways of looking at it. Either
you're you get a total like washed over with mom guilt,
or you can look at it and go there's a
reason why this is the situation, and there's a there's
(26:01):
a really beautiful reason why, and I can't wait to
see how it unfolds. Um, And that's how I'm choosing
to look at it, because goodness, I mean, he first
of all, is way more patient than I am on
a daily basis, and and just is the best. And
so they're really really so blessed to have him as
a daddy. Shout out Chris, Yeah, Chris, yeah, because they're
(26:22):
probably totally listening, yes, while you're hanging out. No, I yeah,
I'm yeah. I think I'm gonna make my husband listen.
It's not that not because he needs he needs to
do that. We both have haven't figured out. We both
are having our careers, but it's still both of us.
We grew up in that mentality. I did too, So
(26:42):
it's that stuff where you get to hear how other
people are starting to do it different and then also
hear their perspective of like you were saying, there's two
ays you can look at it and and then and
then the blessing that it could be. And I have
the blessing way about other because we do. We have
a lot of help, you know, we have UM an
nanny for and I don't like that word either. By
the way, there's like my little girl's best friends, UM.
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And we have someone who tours with us when we
travel UM. And then we have for my twins, they
do kind of a little school in our basement of
like five days a week, and so we have someone
every day for their little school day and her name
is Courtney and she's amazing and UM. And so we
have a ton of help and support and I am
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so thankful for that and I did so this is
only the third podcast I've ever done, and I the
two other ones were with Annie Downs and Jin Hatmaker.
And when I um spoke with Jin, she told me
something that was so incredible, and it was, you know,
we're always going to be the moon to our kids,
as moms like, and it's okay for them to have
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stars like other people and they're trying to the stars.
You can't be both. You have to pick, and we're
always but we don't really get to pick because we're mom.
So we're going to be the moon, you know. And
so to get okay with that, and it took me
a little bit, UM, but now my girls are just
these beautiful kind of like beings that have all of
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the influence of like these amazing hearts that have poured
into them since they were born. And I love that
My daughter Isaly wouldn't be who she is without the
women who have who have you know, hugged her through
and and walked with us through um, our travels and
our crazy life, all their little stars. Yeah, I love that. Okay,
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So we kind of have a Haiti connection through Mike
and Missy Wilson. So shout out to my life speaks
and Neppili Haiti. And so when you so Mike was
your youth pastor? Yes, so he used to be the
the youth pastor at two of hers Baptist church over
um kind of near Opera Land, because I grew up
here in Nashville, and I've known him since I was
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fourteen years old. One of my best friends in high
school went to that church, and it was actually really
close to the church that I grew up in, but
I would always go to youth events there and Mike
and Missy were there was right when um like their
oldest son was just a toddler, and we've known each
other since then. And so then over the course of
the last several years. UM, we've just gotten closer and closer.
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He married, UM, my husband and I UM. I went
to Haiti with with Missy for the first time UM
in March of two thousand eleven and have never been
the same since. So that was the year after the earthquake. Yes, yeah,
it was very um it was I I it was
an interesting first trip because it was a trip that
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I got to see several different parts of Haiti and
a lot of people, you know, don't realize, like there's
beautiful mountains and it's cool up at the top, and
then there's desert, and then there there's all of these
extreme there's beautiful beaches, the most beautiful some of the
most beautiful beaches I've ever seen. Or they're like, it's
such a country of extremes um and extreme beauty and
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extreme poverty wealth. Yeah, it took me probably I've been
going for five years and it wasn't until my third
year going I realized there is a little bit of
a first world Haiti. Yes, there is up at the
top you go, the higher up the mountain you go,
you realize that and I'm like, oh my goodness, it's
just but You're right, it's so extreme. So it's like,
you know, we're we live in a place where yes,
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we have extreme poverty and we have an extreme wealth,
we also have a lot of the things in between.
And there it's like you assume it's all just poverty,
but no, there is people that are highly educated, speak
five languages, make tons of money, but they're just completely
separate from what's going on down there. But okay, so
back to your and I and it just changed my life.
I feel like I came back from that trip and
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I've been like gosh, almost ten times now since then.
Um I I love it. There is one of the
most beautiful the village of NETPLI have. I love them
like they're my family, you know. And and we um
when they hurt. I hurt, even though I can't be
there as much as as I would love to be.
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UM And it's just a really the organization itself is
it's to speak up for those that can't speak for themselves.
And and that's what My Life Speaks is about. It's
about giving those a voice who have who don't have
a voice, and with a very emphasis on special needs. UM.
But I think everybody in that country there's a special need,
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you know, like truly, and I think that the more
that we can do for them and and shine light
on and raise awareness for this beautiful nation, the it
seems like God's put it on your heart. It's like
the people or it's like you go to Haiti and
you come back and you're like, Okay, Haiti's forever a
part of my heart, and it's like forever. I don't
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know that that happens to everybody that goes, but it's
like if if you go and it happens to you know,
and I feel like I know exactly what you're saying
because that's what happened to me. And it's like God
just kind of like I wasn't going to be able
to forget this place or these people. And you know
now I have two kids from there, and that's forever
their home. I mean, that's where their moms are. Yeah,
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and so that's something that will always be a part
of my heart. And I love that we have to
go together. I know we should get with Mike and
be like, let's get to do this. I mean there
are four things um line or anything a squaw, which
means hope in Haitian creole. Last Christmas we supported and
I'm pretty sure I don't know when we'll do it,
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but each year we do different items that support various causes.
And last Christmas it was my Life Speaks and so
everyone's doing their Christmas shopping and supporting them, and it
was just so cool, like after Christmas kind of wrapped,
like the day after Christmas, we were able to send
them a huge check and it just was like because
you know when you've gone, because you know the difference
it's going to make. You know the impact that they're
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making and the like. How again, even if yes on
special needs, but they create little and Mike Wilson has
come on the podcast before two so if you haven't
heard that episode, but you know they create. I love
how God has moved through them because they don't want
it to be like an orphanage. They wanted to be
like a home. So there's house moms. How yes, so
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we have um yeah, they're families, their Haitian families. It's
a couple. Sometimes they have their own biological children as well.
We have the first house family. UM could not have
their own children, and they brought in this beautiful like
it's just this beautiful, integrated families. Some of the children
have special needs, some of them don't. UM and it's
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it's all just really wanting to cultivate like that. We
it's it's a bigger kind of how God sees us
as were adopted into into his kingdom, into his love,
Like that's how we should view everybody. And and so
that's such a perfect picture of that because He accepts
and loves us all and and that's what we tried
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to do there. And it's just awesome to watch these
siblings and watch these families just thrive and and enjoy
each other but fight like a family, and you know,
just all of it, everything that a family is. And
the other things that I'm so proud of that my
life speaks are a part of is UM. We've got
a medical clinic now that has been running for several
years that I mean, they see thousands of people in
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the surrounding villages too, and and so UM we have
a pregnant mom's program, like a prenatal program, which is
amazing to see how many more healthy babies are being
born in our village and surrounding areas mother's I mean,
it's hard to think of it here because we have
such access to medical care and giving birth every day
seems like no big deal. But there there's a high
mortality rate. Yes, absolutely, And and just watching them, you know,
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feel good through their pregnancy. I went to Haiti when
I was five months pregnant with Easley, and it was awesome.
I got to sit in with with those women in
a meeting about just taking care of themselves and we
were like bumping bumps, you know, just like having and
and it's just you can feel like you're so far
away from where you came from and be like we're
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all the same, Like look at us, We're all like
my ankles are swollen. Your ankles are swollen. Like I
feel like just when I land in hating my ankles,
get pregnant or not, there's something about the humidity and
true like well, just like just happened to me. Yeah, yeah,
I can see if when you're pregnant. That's the total ya,
just feeling like we're all the same, like no matter
what you know. And and I have loved more than
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anything watching this village just thrive and my life speaks
as an amazing job of I mean, having head of
refeat more Haitian employees than Americans who are doing incredible work.
They're taking care of each other, and um, all of
you know, the community center and all of the spaces
that my life speaks holds there and Nepoli and yeah,
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it's it's amazing to see the ripple effect. And I'm
so out to be a part of it. And I
think that while we're talking about Haiti right now, but
you can apply this probably in anywhere in your life
that we're all the same, yes, yes, and that. And
you don't have to travel to Haiti to be used
or to feel like you're loving your neighbor like you
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can so do it. That's something we try to emphasize
here too, is it's you can do it in your
own community, on your street neighbor, literally your next door neighbor, right,
I mean, it can be the smallest thing that can
go so far. And and I just think if we all,
you know, and I get through in seasons where I
just feel like I'm so tunnel vision and I forget
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to look around me. But but if we could find
just just a moment every day to look around and realize, Okay,
everything I'm dealing with, like other people are carrying just
as many burdens around as as I am. We just
I can't see them. I know what mine are, but
I don't know what yours are. I don't know, you know.
And if we could just give ourselves, give ourselves in
each other just a little more grace, I was like,
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that's the grace. That's where that comes in. Because even
sometimes when you know, when I react a certain way
to my kids, if I'm snappy or whatever for kind
of sometimes it's deserved. But sometimes that's an example where
I know immediately have to check my check myself and
check my heart and be like, okay, what something's going on?
You can be self aware, but also sometimes you have
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to have to give myself grace because like, okay, I'm
doing a lot right now, so this doesn't justify how
I just acted, But then it helps me put myself
in check. But then it makes me also think of
maybe when sometimes at the store someone's snippy to me, like, oh,
it probably isn't really me, Like they've got a lot
going on, so I need to like, yeah, just have grace,
or then what's something I can do to make their
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day better or something? And then similar to their just
talking about in Haiti like the ripple effect, like it
can happen here too, everywhere. So yeah, that's awesome. Okay,
so let's get into one of our favorite things here
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to talk about, which is gratitude, because you know, gratitude,
there's just so much in it. I mean, even right now,
I feel like it's a thing because a lot of
people are realizing, Okay, that's what's gonna bring you happiness.
And we have a lot of experts you've been telling
us that, like Bernday Brown, I was about shout out yes,
shout out to her. Yes, isn't she the best? The best?
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So yeah, something that we have guests do at times
to share four things that they're thankful for, bigger, small,
and it helps us just kind of get a sneep
peek into your life and what you're thankful for and
then hopefully encourage people to maybe practice some gratitude today.
And oay, my four things are I am so unbelievable thankful,
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unbelievably thankful for um, for just my faith, my relationship
with God and knowing that he how he sees me,
and and also you know how he sees all of us. Um.
Getting back to the grace piece. It's like the grace
that's extended from him, um, that we should extend to
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ourselves and others. So that would be number one. I
am so grateful for my husband, especially in this season
that we're in right now, of just endless patience and
understanding and blood, sweat and tears. I mean, he's just
he is amazing. UM. I am very very thankful for
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my family, UM, my mom, my dad, my little sister, UM.
And when I say husband, I mean my family with
him to my daughter's um Isslei, Emery and Betsy. And
then my my immediate family my mom, my dad, my
baby sister Riley. UM. And then lastly would be just
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my lady A family like getting to walk this career
with people that I love and respect and um who
just really helps spur me on to to be a
better version of myself and um and what Lady A
has the platform that it's given us. It's hard to
pick four, but those would be my four and they're
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all very like And if you can't tell this about me, like,
my relationships are hands down the most important thing to me.
I appreciate so much the comforts of this life and
that that we feel so blessed to have, but but
it is so much more about the people you get
to live life with. Yeah, for sure. How long have
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you been with Charles and Dave? Thirteen years? Okay, so
thirteen that Yeah, that's how long I've been with Bobby.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, he's like my husband. Yeah, definitely,
you know what, I know that the right term. I
mean you've got to work Customs and Dave. So yeah,
and then you've you've been married for how long? It'll
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be eight years in Janie so see similar to me,
to one relationship started before the other, and then it's like,
do you feel like you learned a lot about marriage
through working with a man? So like every single day? Yeah, communication,
I think I'm still learning and it's I was about
to say it's communication because well, for body, communication is
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very he feels like he communicate is just fine, but listen,
he's not listening. He I would I would argue that,
and so for me, I don't feel like he communicates
that great at times. But that also could be on
me on how I'm because I'm always trying to, like
I think of my brain just always goes to like, well,
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you know, like if you call somebody and they don't answer,
it's like, what do I do wrong? The story we
makeup in our head Britney Brown, Yes, yes, so it's
a lie and I'm telling myself in my head, and yes,
the narrative is all wrong. And then I create this
whole thing of oh, it must have been when I
did this, and I can't believe it did that, which
spirals into so it's a I I kind of do that.
So really that's communication issue on my end. But I
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feel like baby Bobby's form of communication is just a
little bit more blunt and kind of there in short, short,
to the point. But but you still have to work
on that relationship, like that's not My love language is
words of affirmation, which he does not pass out like candy,
which I'm not asking. It means a lot more when
you say it every few years. That feels. So it's
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so interesting because that not love you, not says I
love you, but it says like something like a compliment
like yeah, great, you're doing a great job, which really, honestly,
I would probably perform better if you did tell me
that every day, because it's like, for me, that's my
love language. So what we're you gonna say, oh, I
was just gonna say that. It's it's interesting because Charles
and Dave are both very different, um personalities, Like Charles
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is very you know, like just not as talk like
I'm not going to have as many heart to hearts
with Charles as I will with Dave. Like it's just
because their personalities are different and so um, it's been
an interesting to learn how to navigate through because you know,
I'm friends with both of them. It's not like I'm
just friends with the two of them at once, like
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I I'm friends with them individually, and then we are
obviously a band of three. But it's just been neat
to to navigate that together of just the ways in
which we connect and and and sometimes you know, it
does feel like it's fewer words from Charles and and
and linkier words from Dave. But but it all kind
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of rounds out. I feel like, Yeah, but with both
of them, you've got two guys to prepare you for
your man. Yes, your mainly taught me a lot they did,
and how to how to communicate because my husband's want
a man of many, many words, like he's kind of
quiet and then yeah, so but it does it does?
It just teaches you the different types of people that
are closely in your life and how you have to
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navigate each one differently. Yeah, and be intentional about it.
Which is your love language? Do you know? I'm words
of affirmation? And I am a physical touch like a
hand on like hand on my hand or like yeah,
like nothing better than Chris like rabbit, like putting his
arm around me when you know, on the couch or
walking through the mall or yeah, very much, words for sure. Yeah.
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It's crazy how like one little thing can just like
mean but to somebody else and might not do anything.
Because I love giving gifts. Oh yeah, what's yours that
you do? So I love giving gifts, Like there's nothing
that makes me happier than than giving someone a gift
that that that they that I can tell that they
really love, or just giving of my time in a
way that they really need, like like when a friend
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calls me when they have a newborn baby to come help,
like oh my gosh, I will like stop everything and
go and try to do all the things. Like that's
just very much my personality. So that's kind of more
active service too, I guess. But but I love giving gifts,
not receiving them. UM and then UM words of affirmation
I need to work on for sure, I try, but yeah,
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I feel like I've gotten better at it since doing
a lot of inner work just because I know I
need them. It's obviously the most important thing I need
from a leve language perspective, So trying to do better
of really seeing seeing others, making them feel known and
acknowledging what they're doing our Charles and Dave, do you
know they're what you have to offer? So definitely both
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words of affirmation, Like Charles has a really good note. Yeah,
like just in an encouragement, I think you know that.
I think Charles are so tall today? Did you grow
an inch? No? No? UM and yeah, but definitely both
words of affirmation. So what is next for y'all? For
Lady A. So the record comes out in November UM
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C m AS and then two days later Ocean comes
out UM. So we have a lot of fun, exciting
things planned around the release of that UM, different release
events and UM a couple of trips here and there,
and then we are gearing up for a tour next year,
so we'll be announcing that UM soon and other than that.
It's like gearing up for the holidays. I mean, it's
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fall now. I can't believe it. I'm so thankful for
all things cooler weather and pumpkin Okay, do you know?
So we did a four things fall sweatshirt that was
like a limited thing, and we put pumpkin spice is
one of the four things because stuff like it was like,
you know, fall leaves cozy, or sweaters because there's a
sweater time pumpkin spice and or whatever. People we got
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so many because it was that was the four things.
You can sometimes you can customize, but these you could not.
And we got so many emails from people and like
pumpkin spice. I was like, is this real? I didn't
know that was anything almost right, I know it's that
time of year. I can't this morning. I mean we're
in Nashville and a lot of you may not be,
but it's cool outside this morning. And I was like,
bring it, thank you Lord, so amazing. Okay, Well, then
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we'll look forward to November the album, and and then
between that it'll be Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year,
and we're off. Well. I've always adored Hillary from Lady
into bellum. But now I feel like I love her
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even more. And that's the thing, Like she's always come
on the Bobby Bones Show, but with Charles and Dave
by her side, So to sit down with just Hillary
Scott and dig a little deeper with her like that
was super cool. And I just feel like she's totally awesome.
Like love her. So if you all liked it too,
and then something cool you can do is take a
screenshot and put it on Instagram or Twitter and tag
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us and let us know that you liked it and
let others know that you liked it and maybe it's
something that they should listen to. I'm at Radio Amy,
Hillary is Hillary Scott l A And yeah, especially let
Hillary know if you enjoyed it, because you know, she's
our guest, and we want to make our guests, you know,
let them know that they're appreciated for coming on and
taking time out of their day to open up and
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share with us. So, Hillary, you're amazing, and yeah, hopefully
we can take that trip to Haiti one day. Before
I get into the email shout out, I want to
talk about the customized four Things pouches. Now, that's something
that we've always done customized totes, but are cute little
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pouches with the zipper. Uh. That's something we were getting
requests left and right, please can we customize these? So
we made a bunch of blanks. We didn't make that many.
They're still limited at this point and there's not that
many left. So that's why I'm giving you a heads
up if you didn't know that we put them out
last week. We did. And it's a lot of fun
to see what people are putting on there as their
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little four things. For the cute little pouch and someone
it's awesome and they put all the small things as
their four things, which is so clever and so cute,
And of course a lot of people were thinking, well
was that in reference to the song too? Like all
the small things? Um. And then we're also trying to
come up with a cute little girl Power one. I mean,
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that's not a stock one, but it's so cute and
y'all we love it so much that whoever came up
with it, we're thinking about making it a stock one,
so that's available. There's also one that we're thinking of
as like a girl power one like beef Ear Stream, Big,
Stay Strong, girl Power and you know other people are
putting like on their's like keys, phone, mascara, chapsticks. So
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it's almost like a little checklist, like do you have
all your stuff and you're cute little zip pouch before
you walk out the door. Um. Another one says puffs, bars,
fruit stripes and crackers, so that could maybe be a
little bag for a kid to have their little snacks in.
And then there's another one that says sanitizer, sunscreen, butt cream,
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and stinky bags, so I'm assuming that might be for
like a baby. Possibly. Another cute one is cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen,
and lip bomb. And so anyway, you get to put
your favorite four things on it. So I'm just reading
these out so you'll get an idea. And for me,
I'm such a visual persons. If you're listening to this
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and you don't know what our little four things products are,
then go to radiom dot com. You'll see a link
there to shop ESPOA which this is a line that
we created to send support to Haiti, and we're currently
supporting Project Meta Share in Central Plateau and their education program.
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And Haiti has just got some craziness going on right now.
I mean, you heard Hillary talking about her heart for Haiti,
and we just there's so many great organizations down there
right now, and a lot of them are are suffering
because of the civil unrest, and prices are skyrocketing with things,
and there's fuel shortages and people rioting, and it's just
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it's just crazy, Like think about your day, Like the
stuff that they're having to worry about there like just
doesn't even cross our minds here in America and we're
waking up going to work. I mean, everybody has stuff
going on in their life. I'm not saying that maybe
some of you listening right now are in a really
rocky play, but just for me, I know, sometimes I'm
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complaining about something silly and then I think about my
friends down in Haiti and I'm like, Okay, yeah, I
don't have life so bad right now. I Mean I
was frustrated because, you know, the highway this last weekend
was closed to my dad's place and it took me
forty minutes to get there instead of seventeen. And then
I was like, oh, well, some of my friends in
Haiti can't even drive on the roads right now for
fear that they might, you know, get kidnapped or something.
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So yeah, roadblocks there are different than roadblocks here. So
that's my point. Um. On my customized four Things pouch,
I have tupop Netflix, Pimp and Joy and Macha, so yeah,
you really can put whatever you want. I made one
for Stashira and it has her things like she loves
Netflix and popcorn and bracelets and reading, so I put
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that on her little bag. And you really can't just
put whatever you want radiom dot com again or shop
espoa on Instagram they shot forward. There's so many different
ways to like search the hash tag four things, which
some stuff for this podcast might come up, or stuff
for our products, and then you can get ideas from
people because we know it's hard to think of things. Um,
(52:10):
so that's why I kind of spent a minute talking
about these. And then again, if your visual like me,
you definitely want to see it. And they make great gifts,
and I don't know once we run out of these,
Like we sold out of our fall sweatshirts, so those
are done, and like, uh, once we sell out of these,
I don't know that we'll do customized pouches through like
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Christmas time. So if you've got gifts, maybe try to
get ahead and knock those out now, because I don't
think that we have the capacity to really do customized
zip pouches and customized touch which are so popular as
Christmas gifts, and people even use them for stockings, like
they hang them from the chimney, you know, the fireplace,
and it's so cute, like moms that have done that
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every Christmas. We're like, oh my gosh, such a good idea.
So that's another thing like speaking of that, it's it's
basically October. So I know I am not someone that
gets ahead. So if you're like me and you procrastinate,
let's not do that this year. Let's get Christmas shopping done.
And I feel like through this podcast and through a
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squaw and four things in the shop, four like, we
probably could get a lot of your Christmas shopping done
and you can feel good about it because it all
gives back to something. But and I mean the gift
receiver will appreciate that side of the gift as well,
that you gave them something thoughtful and if it's four things,
so that's also customized just for them, and that also
it's giving back to Haiti. So it's a win win gift.
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And I know it's a struggle sometimes thinking of someone's
favorite four things are narrowing it down. But if you
just sit down one day and like set a time
or and be like, you know what, this is what
I'm dedicating this time too, I'm gonna knock this out
and then I'm gonna go online, I'm gonna order them,
and then boom, Christmas shopping done. At least for some
of the women in your life like mother's, daughter's girlfriends
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or whatever group of friends you have, Like customized totes easy,
and then you're not going to be the one running
around the last week of Christmas trying to find a gift.
And here's the thing. We do get emails that last
week before Christmas of people saying, oh my gosh, I
need to order a tote, and we it breaks our heart,
like we hate saying oh no, it's too late, like
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we can't make it because their custom got to go
to the printer, gotta have a printer, gotta shipped out,
and then Christmas time shipping. So all this to say,
let's just get ahead, let's do it together. I'm speaking
to myself too, because I give totes as gifts as well,
and I need to sit down and think of people
in my life that I want to make totes for. Okay,
so let me get to the email. Shout out now
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and this comes from Nicole. Hey, Amy, I absolutely love
your podcast and you really hit home when you talked
about stress and the glass. I want to share this
analogy that I love and I hope that you get
something out of it like I did. Okay, So this
is me talking now, not Nicole. But on last week's
episod owed, I had a like a something from the
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Thought Catalog about stress and holding onto it and how
if you carried around eventually it's just gonna explode and
not be great. Um. So she's sharing something that's similar
that's going to help us and I really liked it.
So here we go. This is Nicole talking again. You
are holding a cup of coffee when someone comes along
and bumps into you or shakes your arm, making you
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spill your coffee everywhere. Why did you spill the coffee
because someone bumped into me? Wrong answer. You spilled the
coffee because there was coffee in your cup. Had there
been tea in the cup, you would have spilled the tea.
Whatever is inside the cup is what will spill out. Therefore,
when life comes along and shakes you, which will happen,
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whatever is inside you will come out. It's easy to
fake it until you get rattled. So we have to
ask ourselves what's in my cup? When life gets tough?
What spills over joy, gratefulness, peace and humility Or is
it anger, bitterness, harsh words and reactions. Life provides the cup,
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You choose how to fill it. Today, let's work towards
filling our cups with gratitude, forgiveness, joy, words of affirmation
and kindness, gentleness and love for others. Today my cup
is full of gratitude and boom. That's what Nicole had
to share, and I love that. I love that analogy too.
So I know that this week I've been a little
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bit stressed out. So if you bump bumped into me,
I don't know my reaction. Also, I got my p
MS warning on my clue app. It like sends me
a message on my phone that like, you know, dark
times are upon us warning. So I feel like if
you bumped into me this week, you might get a
little bit of like irritability, Like I'd be irritable and
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angry and quick and snap. But um, so this is
a good reminder for me to to make sure that
if you were to bump them too me, you wouldn't
get any that you would get peace, calm, humility, gratefulness, joy.
So thank you Nicole for this email, and I appreciate
anybody the emails. You can send notes to four Things
with Amy Brown at gmail dot com and next week
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we will see y'all With Daniel Walker. She is a
cookbook author and much more, many more things. She does
a lot. She's a mom and entrepreneur, has lots of
things spinning, a wife and similar to Hillary, has a
lot to share. And she actually is one of hillary
Is really great friends. And she was staying with Hillary,
so she came and recorded it with me after Hillary left.
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So I've already got that done and I can guarantee
you it's good. And um she against all Grains is
how you may know her because she had to give
up grains because um of an autoimmune disease that she has.
So she's going to talk a little bit about that.
So we'll talk food, faith, family, and then of course congratitude,
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a life. He can't he can't be come to love
life cast up, broth things, little food for yourself. Man.
So life ain't always pretty, but hey, it's pretty, beautiful things, beautiful,
laugh a little more. Families tightened up because said he
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can't eat. Cut your kick. Get there with four with
Amy Brown,
Okay, little food for you. So life. Oh it's pretty,
but it's pretty beautiful. Laughs, a little mom you're kicking
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with four brown Okay, so this is exciting. I have
Hillary Scott from Lady Antebelle. I'm sitting down with me
for four things. Yes, and the stuff that um we're
going to cover today is music, family, faith, and gratitude.
I love those things. And you know it's a Hillary Scott.
I mean obviously you know. She's a singer, she's a songwriter,
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she's a wife, she's a mom, you're a friend, You're
all the things. She's adorable and precious and has a
good style like you. You have your own clothing line, yes,
which I'm super jealous of. I know that we're not
supposed to be jealous. I'm supportive at the same time.
Thank you. I wish you the best of a lot.
But you get to go on the Home Shopping Network. Yes,
that's like a dream. It is so fun. I mean
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so totally different than a show, you know, interview anything.
I mean, it's live. It's like live live, and I
just get to talk about all of these amazing pieces
that I've designed and why why I love them, and
what my inspiration was, and so it's just a whole
another creative outlet for me. Um that I am loving.
And your line is a boho chic it's totally damn yeah,
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thank you. It's amazing and yeah, it's one of my
you know how you have those bucket list things like
either QVC hin home, yeah, home shopping, nut work, the
same thing, but just to go on there and I
don't know, sell something and have people call in and
be like hey, Cindy and Charlotte like how's it going?
And then she's like, I want to buy five at
those boho sweaters. Yeah, I don't know. And the other
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thing too is you can see like the ticker of
how many are selling, how many you're selling, and there's
something so like just the adrenaline rush of that. You're like, oh,
they're really loving the jacket. Oh my gosh, they're really
loving that top. And so it gives you immediate feedback,
which is really cool. I love it. It's awesome. Okay,
so clothing line, my you know, we're I envy. Well,
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I also envy that you can sing like an angel beautiful.
So there's so many things about you that I I
covet and I'm not supposed to, but um, let's get
into the music first. I'm curious. I try to think of,
like when I think of Lady Antebellum, I think of
when The Bobby Bones Show first moved to Nashville, y'all
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had a Downtown was fairly new, and obviously I knew
y'all even we were pop because before we came country,
we were popping Austin and we played Need You Now
on our top forty station, and you know so in plus,
I loved country music, so it's very familiar with what
you all did. But right we got here, downtown came
out and we were obsessed with it, and we made
our own office video. I'm sure you never saw it.
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It's on YouTube. I have we. I can't remember somebody.
We had a coffee pot. I think I maybe had
the coffee pot with a drumstick, and it was like
we tapped it and we filmed all around the office
and we would sing and we were I don't know,
I have we. We sang like I'm pretty sure it
was our vocals. I probably need to go back and
watch it too, but I was you, Oh my gosh,
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I don't know why, you know, paying me downtown, like
you got anywhere better to be, which I'll play the
real one here? This is probably better. Okay, here we go, Yeah, lucky,
this is a jam you. So you know, when you
have big life moments, forever associate it with that. And
so for me, when I hear Downtown, I picture our
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first a few months here and like being welcomed into
country music and us making fun video and trying to
probably be like hey, probably trying to get y'all's attention, like, oh,
I wonder if they'll ever see it and tweet us back.
I don't know if y'all did, but somebody from your
camp tweeted us, which a good job. Shout out to him. Um.
So that's one of my favorite Ladies songs. So I'm curious, like,
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what what is your favorite song you've ever recorded? Man,
that's a really hard question. I mean, I like so
many of them for different reasons, but if I had
to pick one that I just truly I'm still so
proud of lyrically, melodically, like the the connection to the crowd,
even to this day when we perform it live, it
would be I Run to you our first number one.
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Yeah we um we wrote that with Tom Douglas, and
he is just a prolific songwriter, um, just amazing poet.
I mean, he's just a deep well of wisdom and
really amazing lyrics. And so we wrote with him that
day and and he had this poem, I run from hate,
I run from prejudice, I run from all of these things.
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And for us to artists, you know, we were I
was twenty when the band started, and we released our
first album when I was twenty one, and you know,
in my early twenties, but really wanting to say some
big things. And this was a message song that that
Charles and Dave and I were really passionate about. Um,
so I render you. Yeah, Okay, well then I guess
I know what you're not going to eliminate. So we
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play this fun game with artists sometimes, like we did
it with Dirk Spinley on The Bobby Bones Show recently.
And it kind of seems bad because it's like one
of your songs, but it's kind of fun to play. Also,
it's like which one would you eliminate? Yes? And I
only bring this up now because I Run to You
was on a list that we had for the Lady Antebellum.
So we have bartender need you Now, you look good
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and I run to you. Oh man, Oh no, I
would pick a different one, Oh would you? Okay, so
which song would you? If? I would? If I could
eliminate one. And I think it's just because it's it
was our second single and we've been singing it for
thirteen years. It would be looking for a good Time. Okay.
I loved the video. I love shooting the video. It
was really fun. But that's just one that that out
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of all of the songs we've ever recorded, it's just
not my favorite. Yeah, I know, we appreciate the honesty.
I mean, do you like some artists sometimes you ask
is there everest song you get tired of playing? And
then you know you either get there just two answers.
This one that's like, No, that song made my career.
I'm moreever grateful for it. I will continue to play
it the rest of my life and smile on my face.
That's how I feel about it. Need You Now for sure,
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like it is one of those that I never get
tired of. Um, we will never be that band who's like, no,
we're not going to play that one second you hear
stories of like other other bands that are like, Okay,
we won't sing this song unless you pay us this
much more because we've played it so many times, and
I'm like, that's crazy, like honor the song and what
it brought to your career. And so we we really
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try to do that every night. And and it's still
the biggest live moment of this I mean, it's the
biggest crowd moment of the show. It's just it is,
and I love that, and it's if it's one of
the ones that it's going to connect with the crowd.
Like Garth Brooks said many times on the show that
like he's going to play the hits if you come
to his concert, he knows what you're there for, and
he's there to put on a good show and make
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you happy. And then Bobby one time went to Ari
M's like a slight private Ari M thing, and he
was so pumped about it because he's a big fan. Yes,
I'm pretty sure, Sorr, I Um, don't quote me if
it wasn't, sorry, ari Um, you're not even listening. So uh.
And he got there and he was like front row
and it was like super awesome, and they played a
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whole new album, not even one that you would know.
I mean, it was great because the new stuff, like sure, fine,
but it was all brand new. It hadn't even played,
which I get it if you're at some album releasing, sure,
but throw a bone in. You said exactly how I feel.
It's like when I mean, we are entertainers truly. I mean, yes,
we're artists, but when you do a live tour, you like,
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you know your room, You've got to read the room.
We're entertainers, and so we we need to to do
our part in that and make sure that they hear
the songs that they want to hear. Yeah, this is
this is my this is my song that I would
want to hear you sing, and I just I need
you and your family for it, and it's I will
thank you. So I'm gonna turn this up. Guy, let
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a play for a second. It's so beautiful, um, I mean,
and I know that that's a special song for you,
So it's something. This is a totally different project than
Lady A. Like you've got Lady A, but then you
sing with your family too, and so that song also
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too for those that don't know, I mean, I know
the meaning behind it or where it came from, so
it makes it even more special. But I want you
to share with people it may not know kind of
where you were at the time that you wrote that
song and recorded it, and then what it's done for you,
because I know that it's done so much for people
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that have listened to it, because music is therapy is
and so let's talk a little bit about thy will.
Absolutely well, thank you for saying that. Um, that Will
is a song that so several years ago, the my
bandmates and I decided we were we've been a band
for nine years. We're going to take a little bit
of just a little sabbatical UM and Charles had some
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songs that he wanted to record. And I've been really
just because I grew up in a musical household. Both
my parents sing and write songs, and I have been
in touring. You know, they were both in Reba's band.
I have always dreamed of doing a record with them.
And so through the loss of my grandfather to leukemia, UM,
my dad kind of had this idea of making this
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album that we could share as a family to those
who really walked us through that. And when he shared
that idea with me and I said, well, if we
do this, I want the world to be able to
hear it. And I wasn't really sure about if I
was going to write for it, you know, singing songs
about my faith and belief in God and love for him. Um,
it's I get really in sational and it's it's a
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part of me that's just extremely raw and vulnerable. And
so I wasn't sure if I was gonna write. And then, um,
not knowing that, you know, in the process of making
this album, UM, that my husband I would miscarry our
second pregnancy. So my daughter Eisley is six and she
was born in two thousand thirteen, and then we had
a miscarriage in two thousand fifteen when we were recording
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this album. And so um, I went into the to
the writing room with Bernie Hermes and Emily Wise Band
in the middle of of walking through this miscarriage and
just I had, you know, had been praying through the
the whole journey, just really at such a low point
of just you ask yourself, like whether it's pregnancy loss
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or in fertility, it's like, what have I done? Is
there's something I could have done different? Or you know,
you just you have a tendency to really beat yourself
up sometimes about it, and and I as I was
praying through it, UM, the Lord just kept giving me
that phrase or that sentence that will be done. And
so every time I would really try to go to
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pray to talk to him about how I was feeling,
it would just come over me like that will be done.
And so I shared that story with them UM in
the writing room that day, and that's that's where we
wrote the song. And and it's really I mean, it's
one of those experiences that I I'm just so thankful
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for the journey, even the parts that have been the
most heartbreaking, UM, and for this song, you know, just
seeing the beauty come from ashes, you know, I really
I have. And to a point that it's hard to
even fathom the number of emails and tweets and d
m s and all of the you know, the ways
people have contacted me, sharing stories with me and meet
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and greets about their own journey and through whether it
be pregnancy loss or just grieving someone UM that they lost,
or just going through a hard time. Like anytime we're
here in that place of like asking questions like I'm
so confused, I thought, I was on the path that
you would put me on. And you know, just asking
those questions that I really feel are fair to ask
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and and those are where you know, if you really
press in, your faith is deepened through them. And so um, yeah,
just to see to see and hear the stories has
been the most humbling and beautiful thing. Yeah. And I
think you being able to put that into words, into
such a beautiful song and then for people to hear
that it it can help them in that process of
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surrendering because it is so hard to just let let
it go and surrender and be like okay, I will
be done whatever. And so yeah, and in music and
you have that gift like it's I don't. I can't.
I can't write, I can't sing. I try to, you know,
journal They talked about how journaling is so important, but
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I can't. I'm intimidated by it because I can't. I
haven't been able to put my thoughts to paper. But
you are an advocate. Well, I'll encourage you to put
your thoughts to paper. But I mean, I know everyone
has their different strengths and whatever, but I mean for
those of you that can um put a song out
there like that and be so vulnerable and share your
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story and then it be a song of healing to
other people and help them get through it. And you know,
music is therapy. It's kind of what we're saying. You know.
A second ago is that it in therapy is a
whole other thing in itself, like music can't be your
only form, that it can be a part of healing
for people. That can be like step one. Maybe even
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just hearing a song like that opens it breaks open
your heart in a different way. Um for sure. And yeah,
I think therapy could be another a fifth thing. I
know it's four things, but four things. We can tie
therapy into music since music is therapy because yeah, I
think some people there's there's a stigma surrounded by it.
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But I mean if if a song can touch you
emotionally and can open you up, then if you want
to dig a little deeper, you can dig deeper and see, Okay,
what's what us is under there? And you know, yeah,
I'm a big fan of therapy. I mean you've done
on site right Okay, I said, Bobby went did that too.
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It is and life changing and and I did an
individual and intensive you know kind of four day thing quickly.
For those that are listening, it's a really it's like
adult therapy camp. Um. You go away depending on how long.
But Bobby talked out on the Bobby bun Chill a
little bit. He went away for you know, four or
five days, and you know, cell phone, no connection. It's
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really intense, and so you just dig into all the
things because for me, I feel like I got to
my thirties and couldn't out run you know, work had
kept me busy, getting married, having starting a family, um,
traveling around. It's like you you can keep yourself busy
and distracted for so long until that all becomes like
your routine. And then once that hit me when I
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got into my thirties, it was like, Okay, I'm seeing
some patterns here. I'm seeing some ways in which that
I'm unable to grow through or not able to forgive
or whatever the situation. Maybe I can't outrun my junk anymore,
you know. And that's where on Site came in and
really helped me break through to that next level of
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of really um embracing who I am with no shame
and with no guilt, and just giving me the tools
to to be able to move forward, UM, and live
a healthier life and be a healthier version of me
and take care of myself better and the people around
me and um put boundaries down and you know, all
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these different things and it is I mean, I love
on site. It was life changing for me. UM. But
finding just a therapist that you trust and can talk to.
Everyone needs it. And don't wait for a crisis to
do it. If you'll hear anything I say today, don't
wait for a crisis to go because how you like,
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if you go and get prepared and get educated and
you get to know yourself better, you will handle a
crisis better. You know, UM, you navigator that trauma. Yeah,
And I think it's not always accessible to everybody, but
I wonder, I mean, because you may not always be
able to go to a therapist or whatever, but maybe
just having like friends that you can really confide in
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or books that you can get your hands on and
just be prepared. Absolutely. But I feel like for some
people a lot of times it starts with the music.
I feel like that can tug. It's so crazy how
powerful instruments and voices. I mean, storytelling some of the moments,
most of the moments where I feel the closest to God.
It's with music, Like it's listening to music, worship music.
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Sometimes I'll think, actor my mom died. I thought, I'm fine,
I'm fine, I can go to church. I'm fine. I
get to church, they play, you know, some song that
makes me think. I mean, I'm like sitting down balling,
crying because you can't. You just it just touches you
in such a way. We're like, Okay, maybe I'm not
ready for prison worship time, but I mean, but then
there's a there's a time for it. But it's crazy
how it just you can touch you. Do you have
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places where you go and do you have cry places
in my house and my closet. Yeah, okay, I'm that
you might pass me on the road someday and I'm
just like tears streaming down my face. I feel like
that's where I um have my quiet time. Like when
I'm driving, I'll listen to music or listen to podcast
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or just kind of in the quiet and that's where, um,
I think my focus is so on something, you know,
driving down the road, getting somewhere safely, but my mind
can kind of really think, um deeper into things. And
because at home right now. I mean, you know, having
two children at home, like we have three, very it's
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a lively, incredible home, but it's not very quiet. So
having the car to be a place of quiet is nice. Yeah,
I love that car. Once the closet. Everybody, just find
your space, especially if you have a hectic family. Which
family is what we're going to get into net perfect Okay,
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So family wise, it's almost like you have two families.
You have, um, you know, your lady a family, and
then you've got like your family family, So there's David
Charles and then there's you know, your husband and your
three kids. And so how do you find that that balance?
That's a great question, you know. I Um, I think
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you're always searching for the balance. And I think when
you have children and every few months they're growing and
changing and their needs are different, you kind of have
to just it's an ever evolving thing. But I will
say I mean full transparency. I feel like I'm a
perforated page, Like if you look at me as in
my I'm a perforated page being pulled by both arms
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from a career and a family. Careers pulling the left arm,
families pulling the right arm. And and so I've learned
with my personality like to to not feel like both
arms are I'm not that I'm about to not get
split in half. I have to find things that in
tools that helped me ground and helped me um prioritize
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and not feel spread too thin. And so that's been
what this last season has been for me, like with
bringing two new babies into the house and and at
once and they're the same age and twins, it is
just crazy and it's awesome. Um. And then at the
same time, like shortly after having twins, we started working
on new music and you know, signed with a new
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record label and went on tour and went to Vegas
for the residency. So I mean there's just been a
lot going on at once over this past year. And um,
so figuring out that no is is an okay word
to say sometimes um, probably more times than reading typically
a yes, I'm very much like yes, like if you're
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okay with me, I'm okay, Yeah, what are you on
the Instagram? Yeah, So very much like a true too.
I have a hard three wing achiever, like love to
you know, love my career and love getting to do
that and and being ambitious that way. But but yeah,
to my core, I'm a too um so being able.
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So some of the tools to help keep you grounded
or about so would be knowing that's okay to say no,
what are some other things you do to stay grounded?
And knowing that it's that it's okay to just say
what I need Sometimes most times, you know that the
best gift I can give others is knowing what I need.
And that's whether it's to your husband, anybody, or to
David Charles. Yeah, and and then just being able to
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be fully present, um when I am in each place.
You know, my my family hasn't toured with us nearly
as much as I thought they would this past year
because I realized, like for me to be able to
be fully present and do my job to the best
of my ability, and above that, what was best for
my girls and my husband was for them to be
in a home routine. So being the parent that leaves,
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you know a few days a week has been um
has been an interesting transition. And and you know, my
husband and I were in the band together for seven years.
He was our drummer, and so we went from being
together every single day in our work environment to now
you know, I'm hopping in and out of town and
he's full time dad at home, so yeah, and he
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is incredible at it. I mean, now is that something?
And I'm speaking total like stereotypes here. This is just
no people, if you're listening, don't email me mad. It's
not me speaking. This is me speaking for like the
stereotype because for my husband, for him too, I didn't
know if this was something that has been a struggle
or your husband. Was it kind of a no brainer,
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like no problem, I'm gonna stay home, or was it like, well, okay,
I guess this makes sense because I mean, you're an
amazing thing, or you're in this band and you've got
to go on tour and it's like that's the life.
You can't really just you know, say okay, pause, thank
you too. So you know, because I'm trying to picture there,
maybe some girls listening, their women listening there in a
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similar situation and their husbands are like, uh no, like
I work, I'm a man, like I bring, I'm the
bread and the butter. Like it's and it's such a
society thing that fluckily is starting to get broken because
I feel like even for you as a career woman
and a mom, Like, there's probably a lot of times
you get the question of you know, and I was asking, Okay,
how do you balance your two families? Like you've got
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David Charles and then your family family, So it's like,
you know, when you're juggling that. But I feel like
me as a career mom, sometimes it's like, well, how
do you do it all? But I mean nobody's asking
my husband how he does it all? Right, that's a
very good point. Yeah, I mean he's with the kids
just as much as I am. And we split and
he's working and I'm working, and we have we have
a nanny and she's like our third arm. I don't
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even have that word is. I struggled to even say
it then because I never thought I would have a nanny,
because that's just I always thought when I grew up,
because of how I grew up, that I was gonna
stay at home mom. But I didn't know it's going
to have the career that I have that would enable
me to kind of have my hand in a lot
of different things and be the best you for everybody. Yeah,
by doing that and making that decision, I think, you know,
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for my husband, um And, And to to kind of
answer your question, I feel like every relationship is its
own beast, you know, um And And I think you
as long as you're being honest with yourself and each other,
like you'll find your rhythm and what works for your family.
But but for for us. Before I met my husband,
when he was a little boy, he remembers at eight
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years old thinking about how excited he was to be
a dad, and then over the course of his early
you know, teens into college, like, he has memories of
thinking like, if I ever if I my family ever
looked like, you know, in such a way that I
would need to stay home and raise our kids, like
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I would be okay with that. So I firmly believed,
by God's grace, he kind of started working on his
heart and totally unbannounced to him or me that we
would be married, you know, and be in the situation
that we're in. And so he you know, he's a unique,
um incredible kind of person to have noticed and recognized
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that about himself from a very very early age. And
I thank the Lord every single day that he's that way,
because there are a lot of men who are like
no way I love my work. I love what I'm doing.
I love providing in this way for our family, But
can I tell you, like the ways in which that
my husband is providing for us on a daily basis
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are the this Like I kind of envisioned them like
seeds being planted, that that we won't really see them
grow fully until our girls are older. Like I had
this epiphany a couple of weeks ago, like my girls
are getting their dad every day for the most formative
years of their life, like zero to five. My oldest
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is now six, and I just can't imagine the how
strong they're gonna be as women when they get older,
how it's gonna like direct their path wherever they go,
wherever life takes them. Um, And I realized that there
will be another season of their life where they're gonna
like it'll be like, mom, how do I get through?
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You know? Fill in the blank. And I am very
present and I'm home several days a week, but they're
getting their daddy every day and it's so sweet. And
you you have two ways of looking at it. Either
you're you get a total like washed over with mom guilt,
or you can look at it and go there's a
reason why this is the situation, and there's a there's
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a really beautiful reason why, and I can't wait to
see how it unfolds. Um, And that's how I'm choosing
to look at it, because goodness, I mean, he first
of all, is way more patient than I am on
a daily basis, and and just is the best. And
so they're really really so blessed to have him as
a daddy. Shout out Chris, Yeah, Chris, yeah, because they're
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probably totally listening, yes, while you're hanging out. No, I yeah,
I'm yeah. I think I'm gonna make my husband listen.
It's not that not because he needs he needs to
do that. We both have haven't figured out. We both
are having our careers, but it's still both of us.
We grew up in that mentality. I did too, So
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it's that stuff where you get to hear how other
people are starting to do it different and then also
hear their perspective of like you were saying, there's two
ays you can look at it and and then and
then the blessing that it could be. And I have
the blessing way about other because we do. We have
a lot of help, you know, we have UM an
nanny for and I don't like that word either. By
the way, there's like my little girl's best friends, UM.
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And we have someone who tours with us when we
travel UM. And then we have for my twins, they
do kind of a little school in our basement of
like five days a week, and so we have someone
every day for their little school day and her name
is Courtney and she's amazing and UM. And so we
have a ton of help and support and I am
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so thankful for that and I did so this is
only the third podcast I've ever done, and I the
two other ones were with Annie Downs and Jin Hatmaker.
And when I um spoke with Jin, she told me
something that was so incredible, and it was, you know,
we're always going to be the moon to our kids,
as moms like, and it's okay for them to have
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stars like other people and they're trying to the stars.
You can't be both. You have to pick, and we're
always but we don't really get to pick because we're mom.
So we're going to be the moon, you know. And
so to get okay with that, and it took me
a little bit, UM, but now my girls are just
these beautiful kind of like beings that have all of
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the influence of like these amazing hearts that have poured
into them since they were born. And I love that
My daughter Isaly wouldn't be who she is without the
women who have who have you know, hugged her through
and and walked with us through um, our travels and
our crazy life, all their little stars. Yeah, I love that. Okay,
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So we kind of have a Haiti connection through Mike
and Missy Wilson. So shout out to my life speaks
and Neppili Haiti. And so when you so Mike was
your youth pastor? Yes, so he used to be the
the youth pastor at two of hers Baptist church over
um kind of near Opera Land, because I grew up
here in Nashville, and I've known him since I was
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fourteen years old. One of my best friends in high
school went to that church, and it was actually really
close to the church that I grew up in, but
I would always go to youth events there and Mike
and Missy were there was right when um like their
oldest son was just a toddler, and we've known each
other since then. And so then over the course of
the last several years. UM, we've just gotten closer and closer.
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He married, UM, my husband and I UM. I went
to Haiti with with Missy for the first time UM
in March of two thousand eleven and have never been
the same since. So that was the year after the earthquake. Yes, yeah,
it was very um it was I I it was
an interesting first trip because it was a trip that
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I got to see several different parts of Haiti and
a lot of people, you know, don't realize, like there's
beautiful mountains and it's cool up at the top, and
then there's desert, and then there there's all of these
extreme there's beautiful beaches, the most beautiful some of the
most beautiful beaches I've ever seen. Or they're like, it's
such a country of extremes um and extreme beauty and
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extreme poverty wealth. Yeah, it took me probably I've been
going for five years and it wasn't until my third
year going I realized there is a little bit of
a first world Haiti. Yes, there is up at the
top you go, the higher up the mountain you go,
you realize that and I'm like, oh my goodness, it's
just but You're right, it's so extreme. So it's like,
you know, we're we live in a place where yes,
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we have extreme poverty and we have an extreme wealth,
we also have a lot of the things in between.
And there it's like you assume it's all just poverty,
but no, there is people that are highly educated, speak
five languages, make tons of money, but they're just completely
separate from what's going on down there. But okay, so
back to your and I and it just changed my life.
I feel like I came back from that trip and
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I've been like gosh, almost ten times now since then.
Um I I love it. There is one of the
most beautiful the village of NETPLI have. I love them
like they're my family, you know. And and we um
when they hurt. I hurt, even though I can't be
there as much as as I would love to be.
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UM And it's just a really the organization itself is
it's to speak up for those that can't speak for themselves.
And and that's what My Life Speaks is about. It's
about giving those a voice who have who don't have
a voice, and with a very emphasis on special needs. UM.
But I think everybody in that country there's a special need,
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you know, like truly, and I think that the more
that we can do for them and and shine light
on and raise awareness for this beautiful nation, the it
seems like God's put it on your heart. It's like
the people or it's like you go to Haiti and
you come back and you're like, Okay, Haiti's forever a
part of my heart, and it's like forever. I don't
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know that that happens to everybody that goes, but it's
like if if you go and it happens to you know,
and I feel like I know exactly what you're saying
because that's what happened to me. And it's like God
just kind of like I wasn't going to be able
to forget this place or these people. And you know
now I have two kids from there, and that's forever
their home. I mean, that's where their moms are. Yeah,
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and so that's something that will always be a part
of my heart. And I love that we have to
go together. I know we should get with Mike and
be like, let's get to do this. I mean there
are four things um line or anything a squaw, which
means hope in Haitian creole. Last Christmas we supported and
I'm pretty sure I don't know when we'll do it,
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but each year we do different items that support various causes.
And last Christmas it was my Life Speaks and so
everyone's doing their Christmas shopping and supporting them, and it
was just so cool, like after Christmas kind of wrapped,
like the day after Christmas, we were able to send
them a huge check and it just was like because
you know when you've gone, because you know the difference
it's going to make. You know the impact that they're
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making and the like. How again, even if yes on
special needs, but they create little and Mike Wilson has
come on the podcast before two so if you haven't
heard that episode, but you know they create. I love
how God has moved through them because they don't want
it to be like an orphanage. They wanted to be
like a home. So there's house moms. How yes, so
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we have um yeah, they're families, their Haitian families. It's
a couple. Sometimes they have their own biological children as well.
We have the first house family. UM could not have
their own children, and they brought in this beautiful like
it's just this beautiful, integrated families. Some of the children
have special needs, some of them don't. UM and it's
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it's all just really wanting to cultivate like that. We
it's it's a bigger kind of how God sees us
as were adopted into into his kingdom, into his love,
Like that's how we should view everybody. And and so
that's such a perfect picture of that because He accepts
and loves us all and and that's what we tried
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to do there. And it's just awesome to watch these
siblings and watch these families just thrive and and enjoy
each other but fight like a family, and you know,
just all of it, everything that a family is. And
the other things that I'm so proud of that my
life speaks are a part of is UM. We've got
a medical clinic now that has been running for several
years that I mean, they see thousands of people in
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the surrounding villages too, and and so UM we have
a pregnant mom's program, like a prenatal program, which is
amazing to see how many more healthy babies are being
born in our village and surrounding areas mother's I mean,
it's hard to think of it here because we have
such access to medical care and giving birth every day
seems like no big deal. But there there's a high
mortality rate. Yes, absolutely, And and just watching them, you know,
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feel good through their pregnancy. I went to Haiti when
I was five months pregnant with Easley, and it was awesome.
I got to sit in with with those women in
a meeting about just taking care of themselves and we
were like bumping bumps, you know, just like having and
and it's just you can feel like you're so far
away from where you came from and be like we're
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all the same, Like look at us, We're all like
my ankles are swollen. Your ankles are swollen. Like I
feel like just when I land in hating my ankles,
get pregnant or not, there's something about the humidity and
true like well, just like just happened to me. Yeah, yeah,
I can see if when you're pregnant. That's the total ya,
just feeling like we're all the same, like no matter
what you know. And and I have loved more than
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anything watching this village just thrive and my life speaks
as an amazing job of I mean, having head of
refeat more Haitian employees than Americans who are doing incredible work.
They're taking care of each other, and um, all of
you know, the community center and all of the spaces
that my life speaks holds there and Nepoli and yeah,
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it's it's amazing to see the ripple effect. And I'm
so out to be a part of it. And I
think that while we're talking about Haiti right now, but
you can apply this probably in anywhere in your life
that we're all the same, yes, yes, and that. And
you don't have to travel to Haiti to be used
or to feel like you're loving your neighbor like you
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can so do it. That's something we try to emphasize
here too, is it's you can do it in your
own community, on your street neighbor, literally your next door neighbor, right,
I mean, it can be the smallest thing that can
go so far. And and I just think if we all,
you know, and I get through in seasons where I
just feel like I'm so tunnel vision and I forget
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to look around me. But but if we could find
just just a moment every day to look around and realize, Okay,
everything I'm dealing with, like other people are carrying just
as many burdens around as as I am. We just
I can't see them. I know what mine are, but
I don't know what yours are. I don't know, you know.
And if we could just give ourselves, give ourselves in
each other just a little more grace, I was like,
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that's the grace. That's where that comes in. Because even
sometimes when you know, when I react a certain way
to my kids, if I'm snappy or whatever for kind
of sometimes it's deserved. But sometimes that's an example where
I know immediately have to check my check myself and
check my heart and be like, okay, what something's going on?
You can be self aware, but also sometimes you have
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to have to give myself grace because like, okay, I'm
doing a lot right now, so this doesn't justify how
I just acted, But then it helps me put myself
in check. But then it makes me also think of
maybe when sometimes at the store someone's snippy to me, like, oh,
it probably isn't really me, Like they've got a lot
going on, so I need to like, yeah, just have grace,
or then what's something I can do to make their
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day better or something? And then similar to their just
talking about in Haiti like the ripple effect, like it
can happen here too, everywhere. So yeah, that's awesome. Okay,
so let's get into one of our favorite things here
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to talk about, which is gratitude, because you know, gratitude,
there's just so much in it. I mean, even right now,
I feel like it's a thing because a lot of
people are realizing, Okay, that's what's gonna bring you happiness.
And we have a lot of experts you've been telling
us that, like Bernday Brown, I was about shout out yes,
shout out to her. Yes, isn't she the best? The best?
(38:25):
So yeah, something that we have guests do at times
to share four things that they're thankful for, bigger, small,
and it helps us just kind of get a sneep
peek into your life and what you're thankful for and
then hopefully encourage people to maybe practice some gratitude today.
And oay, my four things are I am so unbelievable thankful,
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unbelievably thankful for um, for just my faith, my relationship
with God and knowing that he how he sees me,
and and also you know how he sees all of us. Um.
Getting back to the grace piece. It's like the grace
that's extended from him, um, that we should extend to
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ourselves and others. So that would be number one. I
am so grateful for my husband, especially in this season
that we're in right now, of just endless patience and
understanding and blood, sweat and tears. I mean, he's just
he is amazing. UM. I am very very thankful for
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my family, UM, my mom, my dad, my little sister, UM.
And when I say husband, I mean my family with
him to my daughter's um Isslei, Emery and Betsy. And
then my my immediate family my mom, my dad, my
baby sister Riley. UM. And then lastly would be just
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my lady A family like getting to walk this career
with people that I love and respect and um who
just really helps spur me on to to be a
better version of myself and um and what Lady A
has the platform that it's given us. It's hard to
pick four, but those would be my four and they're
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all very like And if you can't tell this about me, like,
my relationships are hands down the most important thing to me.
I appreciate so much the comforts of this life and
that that we feel so blessed to have, but but
it is so much more about the people you get
to live life with. Yeah, for sure. How long have
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you been with Charles and Dave? Thirteen years? Okay, so
thirteen that Yeah, that's how long I've been with Bobby.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, he's like my husband. Yeah, definitely,
you know what, I know that the right term. I
mean you've got to work Customs and Dave. So yeah,
and then you've you've been married for how long? It'll
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be eight years in Janie so see similar to me,
to one relationship started before the other, and then it's like,
do you feel like you learned a lot about marriage
through working with a man? So like every single day? Yeah, communication,
I think I'm still learning and it's I was about
to say it's communication because well, for body, communication is
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very he feels like he communicate is just fine, but listen,
he's not listening. He I would I would argue that,
and so for me, I don't feel like he communicates
that great at times. But that also could be on
me on how I'm because I'm always trying to, like
I think of my brain just always goes to like, well,
(41:42):
you know, like if you call somebody and they don't answer,
it's like, what do I do wrong? The story we
makeup in our head Britney Brown, Yes, yes, so it's
a lie and I'm telling myself in my head, and yes,
the narrative is all wrong. And then I create this
whole thing of oh, it must have been when I
did this, and I can't believe it did that, which
spirals into so it's a I I kind of do that.
So really that's communication issue on my end. But I
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feel like baby Bobby's form of communication is just a
little bit more blunt and kind of there in short, short,
to the point. But but you still have to work
on that relationship, like that's not My love language is
words of affirmation, which he does not pass out like candy,
which I'm not asking. It means a lot more when
you say it every few years. That feels. So it's
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so interesting because that not love you, not says I
love you, but it says like something like a compliment
like yeah, great, you're doing a great job, which really, honestly,
I would probably perform better if you did tell me
that every day, because it's like, for me, that's my
love language. So what we're you gonna say, oh, I
was just gonna say that. It's it's interesting because Charles
and Dave are both very different, um personalities, Like Charles
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is very you know, like just not as talk like
I'm not going to have as many heart to hearts
with Charles as I will with Dave. Like it's just
because their personalities are different and so um, it's been
an interesting to learn how to navigate through because you know,
I'm friends with both of them. It's not like I'm
just friends with the two of them at once, like
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I I'm friends with them individually, and then we are
obviously a band of three. But it's just been neat
to to navigate that together of just the ways in
which we connect and and and sometimes you know, it
does feel like it's fewer words from Charles and and
and linkier words from Dave. But but it all kind
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of rounds out. I feel like, Yeah, but with both
of them, you've got two guys to prepare you for
your man. Yes, your mainly taught me a lot they did,
and how to how to communicate because my husband's want
a man of many, many words, like he's kind of
quiet and then yeah, so but it does it does?
It just teaches you the different types of people that
are closely in your life and how you have to
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navigate each one differently. Yeah, and be intentional about it.
Which is your love language? Do you know? I'm words
of affirmation? And I am a physical touch like a
hand on like hand on my hand or like yeah,
like nothing better than Chris like rabbit, like putting his
arm around me when you know, on the couch or
walking through the mall or yeah, very much, words for sure. Yeah.
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It's crazy how like one little thing can just like
mean but to somebody else and might not do anything.
Because I love giving gifts. Oh yeah, what's yours that
you do? So I love giving gifts, Like there's nothing
that makes me happier than than giving someone a gift
that that that they that I can tell that they
really love, or just giving of my time in a
way that they really need, like like when a friend
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calls me when they have a newborn baby to come help,
like oh my gosh, I will like stop everything and
go and try to do all the things. Like that's
just very much my personality. So that's kind of more
active service too, I guess. But but I love giving gifts,
not receiving them. UM and then UM words of affirmation
I need to work on for sure, I try, but yeah,
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I feel like I've gotten better at it since doing
a lot of inner work just because I know I
need them. It's obviously the most important thing I need
from a leve language perspective, So trying to do better
of really seeing seeing others, making them feel known and
acknowledging what they're doing our Charles and Dave, do you
know they're what you have to offer? So definitely both
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words of affirmation, Like Charles has a really good note. Yeah,
like just in an encouragement, I think you know that.
I think Charles are so tall today? Did you grow
an inch? No? No? UM and yeah, but definitely both
words of affirmation. So what is next for y'all? For
Lady A. So the record comes out in November UM
(45:40):
C m AS and then two days later Ocean comes
out UM. So we have a lot of fun, exciting
things planned around the release of that UM, different release
events and UM a couple of trips here and there,
and then we are gearing up for a tour next year,
so we'll be announcing that UM soon and other than that.
It's like gearing up for the holidays. I mean, it's
(46:04):
fall now. I can't believe it. I'm so thankful for
all things cooler weather and pumpkin Okay, do you know?
So we did a four things fall sweatshirt that was
like a limited thing, and we put pumpkin spice is
one of the four things because stuff like it was like,
you know, fall leaves cozy, or sweaters because there's a
sweater time pumpkin spice and or whatever. People we got
(46:26):
so many because it was that was the four things.
You can sometimes you can customize, but these you could not.
And we got so many emails from people and like
pumpkin spice. I was like, is this real? I didn't
know that was anything almost right, I know it's that
time of year. I can't this morning. I mean we're
in Nashville and a lot of you may not be,
but it's cool outside this morning. And I was like,
bring it, thank you Lord, so amazing. Okay, Well, then
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we'll look forward to November the album, and and then
between that it'll be Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year,
and we're off. Well. I've always adored Hillary from Lady
into bellum. But now I feel like I love her
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even more. And that's the thing, Like she's always come
on the Bobby Bones Show, but with Charles and Dave
by her side, So to sit down with just Hillary
Scott and dig a little deeper with her like that
was super cool. And I just feel like she's totally awesome.
Like love her. So if you all liked it too,
and then something cool you can do is take a
screenshot and put it on Instagram or Twitter and tag
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us and let us know that you liked it and
let others know that you liked it and maybe it's
something that they should listen to. I'm at Radio Amy,
Hillary is Hillary Scott l A And yeah, especially let
Hillary know if you enjoyed it, because you know, she's
our guest, and we want to make our guests, you know,
let them know that they're appreciated for coming on and
taking time out of their day to open up and
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share with us. So, Hillary, you're amazing, and yeah, hopefully
we can take that trip to Haiti one day. Before
I get into the email shout out, I want to
talk about the customized four Things pouches. Now, that's something
that we've always done customized totes, but are cute little
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pouches with the zipper. Uh. That's something we were getting
requests left and right, please can we customize these? So
we made a bunch of blanks. We didn't make that many.
They're still limited at this point and there's not that
many left. So that's why I'm giving you a heads
up if you didn't know that we put them out
last week. We did. And it's a lot of fun
to see what people are putting on there as their
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little four things. For the cute little pouch and someone
it's awesome and they put all the small things as
their four things, which is so clever and so cute,
And of course a lot of people were thinking, well
was that in reference to the song too? Like all
the small things? Um. And then we're also trying to
come up with a cute little girl Power one. I mean,
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that's not a stock one, but it's so cute and
y'all we love it so much that whoever came up
with it, we're thinking about making it a stock one,
so that's available. There's also one that we're thinking of
as like a girl power one like beef Ear Stream, Big,
Stay Strong, girl Power and you know other people are
putting like on their's like keys, phone, mascara, chapsticks. So
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it's almost like a little checklist, like do you have
all your stuff and you're cute little zip pouch before
you walk out the door. Um. Another one says puffs, bars,
fruit stripes and crackers, so that could maybe be a
little bag for a kid to have their little snacks in.
And then there's another one that says sanitizer, sunscreen, butt cream,
(49:39):
and stinky bags, so I'm assuming that might be for
like a baby. Possibly. Another cute one is cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen,
and lip bomb. And so anyway, you get to put
your favorite four things on it. So I'm just reading
these out so you'll get an idea. And for me,
I'm such a visual persons. If you're listening to this
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and you don't know what our little four things products are,
then go to radiom dot com. You'll see a link
there to shop ESPOA which this is a line that
we created to send support to Haiti, and we're currently
supporting Project Meta Share in Central Plateau and their education program.
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And Haiti has just got some craziness going on right now.
I mean, you heard Hillary talking about her heart for Haiti,
and we just there's so many great organizations down there
right now, and a lot of them are are suffering
because of the civil unrest, and prices are skyrocketing with things,
and there's fuel shortages and people rioting, and it's just
(50:42):
it's just crazy, Like think about your day, Like the
stuff that they're having to worry about there like just
doesn't even cross our minds here in America and we're
waking up going to work. I mean, everybody has stuff
going on in their life. I'm not saying that maybe
some of you listening right now are in a really
rocky play, but just for me, I know, sometimes I'm
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complaining about something silly and then I think about my
friends down in Haiti and I'm like, Okay, yeah, I
don't have life so bad right now. I Mean I
was frustrated because, you know, the highway this last weekend
was closed to my dad's place and it took me
forty minutes to get there instead of seventeen. And then
I was like, oh, well, some of my friends in
Haiti can't even drive on the roads right now for
fear that they might, you know, get kidnapped or something.
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So yeah, roadblocks there are different than roadblocks here. So
that's my point. Um. On my customized four Things pouch,
I have tupop Netflix, Pimp and Joy and Macha, so yeah,
you really can put whatever you want. I made one
for Stashira and it has her things like she loves
Netflix and popcorn and bracelets and reading, so I put
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that on her little bag. And you really can't just
put whatever you want radiom dot com again or shop
espoa on Instagram they shot forward. There's so many different
ways to like search the hash tag four things, which
some stuff for this podcast might come up, or stuff
for our products, and then you can get ideas from
people because we know it's hard to think of things. Um,
(52:10):
so that's why I kind of spent a minute talking
about these. And then again, if your visual like me,
you definitely want to see it. And they make great gifts,
and I don't know once we run out of these,
Like we sold out of our fall sweatshirts, so those
are done, and like, uh, once we sell out of these,
I don't know that we'll do customized pouches through like
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Christmas time. So if you've got gifts, maybe try to
get ahead and knock those out now, because I don't
think that we have the capacity to really do customized
zip pouches and customized touch which are so popular as
Christmas gifts, and people even use them for stockings, like
they hang them from the chimney, you know, the fireplace,
and it's so cute, like moms that have done that
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every Christmas. We're like, oh my gosh, such a good idea.
So that's another thing like speaking of that, it's it's
basically October. So I know I am not someone that
gets ahead. So if you're like me and you procrastinate,
let's not do that this year. Let's get Christmas shopping done.
And I feel like through this podcast and through a
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squaw and four things in the shop, four like, we
probably could get a lot of your Christmas shopping done
and you can feel good about it because it all
gives back to something. But and I mean the gift
receiver will appreciate that side of the gift as well,
that you gave them something thoughtful and if it's four things,
so that's also customized just for them, and that also
it's giving back to Haiti. So it's a win win gift.
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And I know it's a struggle sometimes thinking of someone's
favorite four things are narrowing it down. But if you
just sit down one day and like set a time
or and be like, you know what, this is what
I'm dedicating this time too, I'm gonna knock this out
and then I'm gonna go online, I'm gonna order them,
and then boom, Christmas shopping done. At least for some
of the women in your life like mother's, daughter's girlfriends
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or whatever group of friends you have, Like customized totes easy,
and then you're not going to be the one running
around the last week of Christmas trying to find a gift.
And here's the thing. We do get emails that last
week before Christmas of people saying, oh my gosh, I
need to order a tote, and we it breaks our heart,
like we hate saying oh no, it's too late, like
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we can't make it because their custom got to go
to the printer, gotta have a printer, gotta shipped out,
and then Christmas time shipping. So all this to say,
let's just get ahead, let's do it together. I'm speaking
to myself too, because I give totes as gifts as well,
and I need to sit down and think of people
in my life that I want to make totes for. Okay,
so let me get to the email. Shout out now
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and this comes from Nicole. Hey, Amy, I absolutely love
your podcast and you really hit home when you talked
about stress and the glass. I want to share this
analogy that I love and I hope that you get
something out of it like I did. Okay, So this
is me talking now, not Nicole. But on last week's
episod owed, I had a like a something from the
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Thought Catalog about stress and holding onto it and how
if you carried around eventually it's just gonna explode and
not be great. Um. So she's sharing something that's similar
that's going to help us and I really liked it.
So here we go. This is Nicole talking again. You
are holding a cup of coffee when someone comes along
and bumps into you or shakes your arm, making you
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spill your coffee everywhere. Why did you spill the coffee
because someone bumped into me? Wrong answer. You spilled the
coffee because there was coffee in your cup. Had there
been tea in the cup, you would have spilled the tea.
Whatever is inside the cup is what will spill out. Therefore,
when life comes along and shakes you, which will happen,
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whatever is inside you will come out. It's easy to
fake it until you get rattled. So we have to
ask ourselves what's in my cup? When life gets tough?
What spills over joy, gratefulness, peace and humility Or is
it anger, bitterness, harsh words and reactions. Life provides the cup,
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You choose how to fill it. Today, let's work towards
filling our cups with gratitude, forgiveness, joy, words of affirmation
and kindness, gentleness and love for others. Today my cup
is full of gratitude and boom. That's what Nicole had
to share, and I love that. I love that analogy too.
So I know that this week I've been a little
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bit stressed out. So if you bump bumped into me,
I don't know my reaction. Also, I got my p
MS warning on my clue app. It like sends me
a message on my phone that like, you know, dark
times are upon us warning. So I feel like if
you bumped into me this week, you might get a
little bit of like irritability, Like I'd be irritable and
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angry and quick and snap. But um, so this is
a good reminder for me to to make sure that
if you were to bump them too me, you wouldn't
get any that you would get peace, calm, humility, gratefulness, joy.
So thank you Nicole for this email, and I appreciate
anybody the emails. You can send notes to four Things
with Amy Brown at gmail dot com and next week
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we will see y'all With Daniel Walker. She is a
cookbook author and much more, many more things. She does
a lot. She's a mom and entrepreneur, has lots of
things spinning, a wife and similar to Hillary, has a
lot to share. And she actually is one of hillary
Is really great friends. And she was staying with Hillary,
so she came and recorded it with me after Hillary left.
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So I've already got that done and I can guarantee
you it's good. And um she against all Grains is
how you may know her because she had to give
up grains because um of an autoimmune disease that she has.
So she's going to talk a little bit about that.
So we'll talk food, faith, family, and then of course congratitude,
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a life. He can't he can't be come to love
life cast up, broth things, little food for yourself. Man.
So life ain't always pretty, but hey, it's pretty, beautiful things, beautiful,
laugh a little more. Families tightened up because said he
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can't eat. Cut your kick. Get there with four with
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