Jessica Honegger: Changing the World. Host a BBQ ASAP (+ recipe). Botox & Baby Pigs. Binge Worthy Shows. (#37)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty Bay,
it's pretty beautiful than laughs, a little mouth you're kicking with? Four? Okay,

(00:33):
crazy that another Thursday has gone by and I got
my husband here just for the intro. You're just doing
the intro. The four things for the podcast are already done.
Do you know what my four things are for this week?
No idea? Well, this is the part where I kind
of give a little menu of what's to come. And
you know, I was up here earlier with the engineer,
Like I was on the phone with engineer, and it
was all I was frustrated. What I say to you?

(00:54):
What I say to you? When I was frustrated about crying? Yeah, yeah,
you're like I'm about to cry? Was I was so
just overwhelmed and didn't know what to do because you'll
hear in I think that's going to be the third thing,
like people will hear kind of what happened, and and
I guess why it wasn't working, and then why it
sounds weird and just everything is like well, like I

(01:16):
just want to like wiggle my nose and everything be done,
but it's not. And then we had this issue and
I wasn't able to do one of my interviews, so
I spent way too long with him on the phone
trying to figure it out. And he's over now, not really, no,
he's it was worth the time, but if they mean
I figured out one of the things. But then I
had to cancel the interview because I couldn't connect with

(01:39):
them on the phone. And then he said, now I
never cried. You told me don't cry sometimes you relax.
It's okay. Yeah, I knew that. I didn't really need
to cry. What I need to do is breathe. So
instead of crying, I took you. I thought the other
part was natural, like the breathing just come. That's supposed
to be like automatic. Well, yeah, breathing is involuntary. However,
I was doing intentional anything like deep calming like our

(02:04):
son Stevenson says, just breathing anger management stuff, breathe out.
Where did he get that? I think at school? Maybe
I think it's one of his teachers like taught him
sometimes and maybe he needs to stop and breathe in
and breathe out. But I had so I had to
do that. So anyway, that's one of my things. So
I've got Jessica Hanager on which she's amazing, like she's

(02:26):
gonna be the first thing. She's the founder of Noonday Collection,
which she started Noonday Collection back when she was trying
to adopt her son from Rwanda and it was gonna
be like dollars and she needed the money and she
was trying to figure out a way to do it,
and she met these artisans over there that had these
you know, jewelry to sell. So she ended up bringing

(02:47):
it back to the United States and then selling it
to her friends here and then she would make money,
but then the artisans back in Rwanda, we're making money too.
So it was like this win win situation. And now
she has formed this amazing company and it's just own
and now there's artist there's ambassadors all over the country
and then artisans all over the world that she works with.
So I love that. And so she talks about how

(03:10):
I mean she's a mom to uh biological kids and
then her adopted son, but um shucks about how we
need to give our kids new experiences, how important that is.
And she talks a little bit more about how she's
helping these families in these impoverished countries and how they
have economic opportunities. She also talks about how we need
to make sure that our love tank is full. Yeah,

(03:32):
do you have a love tank? Yes? You do? Where
what do you? What do you fill in the love tank? Love?
It's like like our love like together, Like we probably
need to work on our love tank a little bit.
It's just been so busy, that's what you're talking about.
Earlier today, You're like, what are you doing? We're never
together like together. That's why when I saw you walk by,

(03:54):
I pulled you to do this little intro because I'm like, well,
it might be the five minutes that I get to
spend with you. That's sad. I know you need to
date me. Let's go on a date. You want to
go on a date? Yeah? Where would we go? I
don't know? You're to go on a walk? I love
the grandma. I'd love to go on a walk with you.
Anywhere you want to go? Okay, we hold hands? Sure?

(04:16):
Maybe drink a Zivia crazy Oh yeah, shout out va.
We tried to. Every time that Zvia gets mentioned in
my podcast, everyone should take a shot. It's like a
drinking game. I just some wounded animals up here, and
I was like I was like, oh, well, I guess
she went after a couple. Well you did animals, like

(04:37):
the wounded. People don't know what that means. There's a
couple of empty, there's empty, there's empty zvas up here
that he's calling wounded animals half of them. Yeah. So
my other things, just to give people a rundown of
what's to come, is I'm going to talk about Matt
Moore's skirt steak recipe. It was really good with the
chimmy jury sauce, and how we had we ended up

(04:58):
deciding to have a barbecue, and how it was a
game changer for our week in our house, Like how
much stuff did we get done because we decided to
have a barbecue? A lot, A lot. It forces you
to do all the things that you've been putting on totally,
like if you're putting stuff off, like have a part,
have people over because it makes you get it done.
And then you know, we ended up it was all
to meet this new friend and there's this amazing recipe,

(05:20):
so I share that and like his cookbooks, so shout
out Matt. And then third thing, this is where it
gets a little interesting, because this is the filler. This
is where kind of Chase came in because this was
where my little sipper my Bethany Breast Explain interview was
supposed to be. But then, as you know, I had
engineering issues, no interview, So Chase and I talked about
all kinds of things like botox and baby pigs for everything. No,

(05:46):
they're not related, but you know I have a d
D at time, so you don't. The thing is kind
of all over the place, like I just was kind
of thrown for a loop because my Bethany interview got
canceled and it was all I needed a quick filler,
and I was like, I don't know, let's just talk
about this. Let's talk about how I got neck botox? What? What? What? What? What? What?

(06:12):
I mean? Yeah I got, I got Yeah, it's it's
the thing. And then awesome, talk about this stuff, I know,
because you don't. You don't like it. You want me
to love myself. I do. I think you're beautiful as
you are. Thank you. I don't need you to change
for my love. Take But do you even remember all
the wrinkles that used to be on my forehead? Why?

(06:37):
Because it used to be way more wrinkly than this.
So anyway, But then we also talked about my silent
film called Bacon, and that's where the baby pigs come in.
Do you remember that your dad? I took him to
that pig farm and he's like this seventy year old
something former fighter pilot from the Air Force, Harley Davidson
ride and like man, and he was like swooning over

(07:01):
these baby pigs like he no, he yeah, he loves
animals like that. He has a soft spot for baby pigs.
It was super cute. I remember when we did that
was a long long time ago. But somehow we don't
even know how we started talking about that. And then
the last thing, the fourth thing, exactly how you started
talking about why because there's something shiny go past best

(07:24):
the window that we have some sort of um. The
fourth thing that we talked about is two things that
we binged on recently, which was Chernobyl and The Great Hack.
So I recommended those would you you? Well, I just
gave it away. I just gave away what the fourth
thing is. So if you don't even want to get

(07:45):
to the fourth thing, fine, but I mean I talk
a little bit more in depth about what those are.
But you would recommend those shows, right, there. Yeah, they
were great. Okay, well, I basically just gave a ready
of the podcast right here, so I guess listen if
you want. Just kidding, you should definitely listen, especially to
the Jessica and view because it's awesome. Mhm, right, yeah, Okay,
you're looking at me like I can't believe you just

(08:06):
discourage people to listen. I'm not. I just feel like
I've rambled enough. Well yeah, I mean you're at that
point now where you're rambling too or I don't know
if I should interrupt or do I just like, let
me keep going like a train wreck. You can't stop
watching or you can't stop listening because it's like it's happening.
It's been one of those days, so proceed with caution

(08:26):
because I might cry, but it's fine. I'm not going to.
And my computer just died literally m yeah. I still
need to do my outro with the email shoutout, and
I have it on my plug it in computer chargers
all the way over in the house somewhere in the garage,
and I guess we'll go do that. Let's go ahead
and just wrap up this part. Thank you for coming

(08:49):
in to hop in on the intro, babe, and I'll
see you for our date later. I can't wait. Okay first, right, Okay,
So in the intro, I told you all a little
bit about Jessica Haniger. Some of you may be totally
familiar with her, some of you not, and I'm just
glad if you're not, you're getting to know a little
bit more about her today, because she's someone that's super

(09:11):
inspiring and that I admire and is a world changer.
Like you're out there doing it. You're making things happen,
and you travel a lot, especially because of this amazing
company that you created a Noon Day collection where you
have artisans all over the world and you get to
go visit them, and it's just I'm envious of your

(09:31):
lifestyle sometimes. You know that Instagram in the sets in
when I see you and all your travels, and I
know that you just got back to Africa, but that
this was a very I mean, it wasn't your first
time by any means, but it was a very very
special first time trip. Because I want you to share
with people, because I am so curious to see how

(09:52):
this trip went, because it was the first time you
were taking your adopted son back to his home country.
Yes it was, and it was. I was so dreading
this trip Amy, and I am usually like, get me
on a plane. I'm ready, I'm ready, but I think
taking Jack. So we adopted Jack when he was around three,

(10:12):
and all of our kids get to pick a trip
to go on when they're ten years old, and my
daughter picked New York City, my other son picked the
fishing trip. And Jack's like, I want to go to Rwanda.
So I was like, okay, okay, um, I think I am.
I'm such a multitasker and I can't go to East Africa,

(10:35):
especially Rwanda where Noonday we have an entire selling cooperative
that we started from scratch actually through the whole adoption process.
So I knew that it wouldn't just be taking Jack back,
it would also be visiting these women and doing some
advocacy work. So and then I wasn't with my husband,
and I was thinking what questions is Jack going to have?

(10:56):
And are they're going to be conversations that happened that
I don't know how to nap the gate. And I
just had honestly a rare amount of anxiety leading up
to this trip, and honestly it was phenomenal, Like it
went so much better than I could have imagined, and
I had a hunt. So Jack is a soccer player,

(11:18):
which in Africa they call football, so he loves soccer.
He's obsessed with soccer. He says he's going to be
a famous soccer player some day. Well, everyone in Rwanda,
like we're talking from the taxi cab drivers to like
the guys who opened the gate to everyone knows how
to play soccer, and they don't just know how to play,

(11:39):
they're like fancy feet, like I played with Jack at
one point. Like me, Jack and our cab driver went
out and played one day and the cab driver was
like fancy feet. I was like, what is happening? And
I think to seeing him in that environment and playing
a game that he loves to play, because the very
first day we just went and bought Rwanda soccer jerseys
which he has not taken off to sweeping home and

(12:02):
a soccer ball, and I think just seeing him connect, um,
it was really important because I know your kids were
a little older when you brought them home, whereas Jack
was only three, so he really didn't have memory of Rwanda,
but I could tell he came back with just a
lot of pride, a lot of sense of who he
was and kind of this like African man pride. I mean,

(12:25):
we hung out with I have so many African men friends,
and so when we're there, we're hanging out with all
of our friends. And one of my friends who was
our attorney that helped us get Jack, and he's a
jenified genofied survivor and from Rwanda, and Jack for he
like took his malariam ads on an empty stomach one morning.

(12:46):
And so when Norbert, our friend, came to get us
that day, Jack was like growing up in the front
yard hotel. But Norbert comes up to him and he's
like lambs him on the back. He's like, be a man,
Jack being a man. And it's just funny because we
were such coddlers of our children in America, and people
they just don't coddle there. I mean, they're so children's centric.

(13:08):
They love kids, but they're also just like, you're gonna
be fine, come on, let's go, you know. And I
was just all of those little moments that I can
tell she's just a little bit different now that we're home,
and it was it was awesome. I wish I would
have not been anxious. It's like, why why anxiety really
produces no outcome? You know? Yeah? Well, I mean but

(13:31):
we all we all go through it for sure. So what,
um what did you do? I mean you had Jack
at home with you all by the time he was
three and then leading up to now he's ten. Like
how important it is is it to you? Or how
have you incorporated Rwanda in your home in America? Like
because I feel like, you know, it's important when you're

(13:52):
adopting internationally or wherever, that you don't lose that you
don't just bring them to America and just you know,
disregard where they came from. Like do you all have
like African themed nights or eat certain foods or anything
like that? You know what we because of Noonday Collection.
So the business that I know you told everyone about,
we are so connected to East Africa and Rwanda and

(14:15):
Uganda have been fairly poorous for a while. There were
a lot of Rwandans living in Uganda. Um, so what
I would say it like this was actually Jack's third
time to go to Africa. It was just his first
time to go to Rwanda. And yeah, so I think
because of Noonday we are just connected to the world.
We really truly have a global community, and I think

(14:39):
that that has been Jack's biggest connecting point. Some of
our best friends are Ugandan's and he feels very close
to them. And so I think we've kept the spirit
of more East Africa and not necessarily just Rwanda alive,
is what I would say. And I think he does
feel very connected to being an African. Yeah, and you're right.

(15:00):
Because of your your business, because of Noonday, you have
artisans visiting you all the time. One of the funniest
things I think of when you're some of your artisans
visit is you take them to drive throughs or like,
because you're busy, Like you're you're you know, an entrepreneur,
you're running this business. You know, you've written a book,

(15:22):
you have a podcast, you are a mom, you're a wife,
like you have all of these things going on, and like,
I love that you admit to like, hey, I don't
have time to cook and it's not happening. So tell
us about one of those experiences of with one of
your people taking them to drive through for the first time.
Oh my gosh. Rosario had never left her little village

(15:45):
and she came and flew in for a conference and
she and I spoke on stage together and it was
a crazy time and it was like, oh my god,
what are we gonna What are we going to eat tonight?
And you know, it's easier sometimes just to eat home
when you've got three kids. So I just was like
going through a drive so without even thinking about it,

(16:07):
and then I'm like, wait a minute, I don't think
you've ever been to a drive through before. But it's
really awesome too. We also take artisans, will take them
to Nemon Marcus and the Anthropology, and will take them
shopping because oftentimes, you know, the more they're exposed to
the American consumer, the better they're able to be at
their jobs. And it's been such a game changer when

(16:28):
artisans come to visit us, and it's really that cultural
exchange because we go visit our artists and partners all
the time. Our social entrepreneurs are ambassadors that are here
creating a marketplace for our artisans that are earning an
income while also making an impact. They get to earn
trips to go visit the artisans and that's always such
a huge connecting point for them, and so we really

(16:50):
love this equal exchange where we have artists. We have
a Shine Conference every year it's like our big sales
conference in Austin, and we always have at least six
or seven artistans visiting us and it's just been truly amazing.
In fact, one of our artistans which have been town
recently on a from another artist in from Guatemala and
she said that when she came to our first conference Shine,

(17:12):
she was so filled with doubt and insecurity, but didn't
she saw how many women were there to believe in her,
and she borrowed the leaf from them and it completely
changed her self confidence as an entrepreneur. Powerful, just the
power of connection, and that's why man travel is such
a game changer, you know, because it's about expanding your

(17:34):
circle of compassion, expanding your horizon, getting to know different
kinds of people, but at the end of the day,
seeing that we're all more alike than we are different. Yeah. Well,
so when you mentioned having ambassadors and some people listening
might be like, wait, what's a Noonday Ambassador? Can you
just talk quickly about because I just popped in my
head that some people might be curious, and then like

(17:55):
working for Noonday could give them an opportunity to travel
the world and maybe on someone's heart. So how does
someone become ambassador? Yeah, so if you know of the
New Day ambassador, give them a call. Otherwise you can
hop on over to our website, New Date Collection dot
com and just click on there's a little joint tab
and you can find out more. But our New Date

(18:17):
Collection ambassadors are our social entrepreneursities, are women who are
earning an income while making an impact. They're hosting chunc
shows with their friends, they have their own online websites,
and they are basically curating this beautiful jewelry collection and
getting to sell it to their friends and getting to
grow a team and organization if they want, while making

(18:39):
an impact on these artists lives around the world. And yeah,
part of the benefit of being a new DA Ambassador
is you get to be a part of our amazing community,
which is a total sisterhood, which, if you've read my
book in Perfect Courage, so much of what I write
about is sisterhood. And so our values are really living
are lived out in our community. And then yeah, you
get to travel and and and then if you even

(19:01):
don't want to travel, you at least get to meet
our artists and partners in Austin, and it's just really
created a global, a global movement of woman who really
do see her success is my success, and my success
is her success, and we're all just lifting one another up.
It's been so much fun. You've been such an amazing
advocate since the beginning, by the way, so thank you

(19:23):
so much, Amie. Oh well, I'm a big fan of
um what first of all, the mission and what you're doing, Like,
I think that's just the coolest thing. That's what always like,
well drew me to Noonday at first before I even
knew you, But then the jewelry, um, the bags, everything's
even expanded, like you have so much cute, colorful, fun,
vibrant and I love giving Noonday as gifts. And you know,

(19:44):
I'm not just saying this because you're on Like it's
it's cool to give somebody something when the story is attached,
because on little card it'll say, you know, these ear
rings were made from recycled like I think it's bullets sometimes, yeah, resonable.
Its I don't want to use the wrong word because

(20:04):
it sounds right. Well I didn't. It's because I don't
want people to be like, wait, bullets, what But I
mean it comes from a story, and like this is
stuff in some really hard places, but from that really
beautiful jewelry was made and women are employed and they're
able to I mean literally, you have changed women's lives

(20:26):
and families lives in these countries where otherwise, I mean
they were in poverty and now some of them are.
You know, now they have their own homes and yeah,
they're running their own little business and doing their thing
and all because you know, way back in the day,
I told this story in the intro, so people if
they listen to intro, they know how New Days started.
But you know, you, you just you had a heart

(20:48):
for it and you wanted to adopt your son. You
had a vision, you had an idea, and you made
it happen. And now how many ambassadors are there? Now?
We have around sea thousand ambassadors and over four thousand artists,
and and I know, it's it's so fun. And it
was so much fun celebrating in Rwanda with these women
because I had not been there in a few years.

(21:09):
And this is a group of women that didn't even
know how to sew nine years ago, and now they're
making about twenty thousand accessory bags for us every month,
and then we had the biggest dance party. It was
so much fun and we were doing this crazy dance girl.
You can go watch it on Instagram. Set it on
Instagram where we're like shaking our beauties, shaking all the

(21:32):
things you can dance too. You can take it and
how to take it. And they were telling me what
the words were later, and it was just all about like,
look at how beautiful I am, look at my look
at my bed. It's so big, And that's so much
of what the women said. They said, look at us, Jessica.
We were famished when you first met us, and we've

(21:53):
gained so much weight. Now we're so full and we're
so healthy. And so I was humbling because you know,
we've talked about this before or when you I've had
you on my Going Scared podcast, we've talked about body
image stuff, and it's like smacked out in the middle
of the summer, which is usually when I can have
flare ups with my own body image. And I swear
being in Africa and just having one of you so
proud of who they are and just you know, food

(22:15):
is fuel and food is like a gift. I was.
It was really humbling. It was. It was a good
reminder in the middle of summertime. I think that we
should record something for probably next week, so people are
listening to this now and next week we should talk
about some of that part out of imperfect Courage, which
is I think you mentioned this, but your book, by
the way, and people can order that on Amazon, um

(22:37):
if you want to, or where where do you send
people to order your book, Jessica, It's available where all
books are sold, but Amazon Prime is definitely the easiest. Yeah,
I know, I'm such an Amazon Prime Like I'm like,
they've made it too easy. Like it's just so. I
was out running errands with the kids this morning and
we were already thinking back packs and stuff because our

(22:57):
school starts really early, and we were about to dry
this store and I just looked at everyone. I was like,
guys pilling this Amazon private. So we turned around and
drove home. I feel that so my kids even remind
me of that. In fact, anytime I have to go
do something or maybe like oh, maybe my husband's gonna
take me to the airport, Like this is how they

(23:17):
want everything to be convenient. They want Amazon Prime, Amazon Prime.
Now two kids that were in Haiti a year and
a half ago. Now if dad, if Dad wants to load,
the whole family have to go drop mom off at
the airport. The kids are like can't she just uber Like,
I'm like, hey, guys, thanks for wanting to hang out
with me, um before we wrap up this um little chat.

(23:38):
And again, I think we'll just have you back on
next week too. But I'm curious to about how you
picked ten years old and the trips for your kids,
because I think that that's really interesting and an idea
that maybe other parents could tack on. Now everybody's going
to be in a different place on what they can
go do with their kid where they can take them,

(23:58):
you know. And but I think, when did you When
did you come up with that idea? And I like it,
like I might adopt it. I don't know that it
will be ten, but like maybe we make ours thirteen.
It's like you get to go pick. I took Stashia
to New York for her twelfth birthday and it was
so special and I'm just thankful that we were able

(24:19):
to do it and we got to go to Broadway
and she got to see things she's never seen. And
in fact, we were driving downtown Square and the honking
and the smells and the lights and the crazy traffic.
She's like, this is kind of like Katie totally New
York is a lot more like quart of Prints and
so but yeah, I just like leaving parents with like
a little nugget, and I thought that's a good idea,
and I want to know about how y'all started it. Yeah,

(24:42):
And I just love to your point that, you know kids,
I mean I recently took my kids to there's a
Ripley's believe it or not museum in San Antonio, so
like an hour south of Austin. So um, I took
my kids there like a month ago, and we walked
out and one of my kids was like, that's the

(25:03):
coolest thing I've ever done in my life. I have
taken him to some cool places kids, like we're talking,
I've taken him to Africa and he's like like, that
was just the coolest thing ever. So I think for kids,
first of all, you can take them to your own
local holiday inn. And they think that a swimming pool,
like an indoor swiming pool is super cool, you know,

(25:25):
I mean, it just doesn't take much to surprise and
delight your child. And then secondly, I would say that
that trip to Africa, honestly, it felt like it was
just as much for me as it was for Jack,
because Jack and I especially were both like the most
stubborn in our family, and we both got heads the most.
We both never want to give each other are each

(25:46):
other's way, and just having them outside of that home environment,
just him and I, we ended up sleeping together every
night because because of our sleeping situation, and I just
got so I saw him with a new lens, and
it's a lens that I needed, like I needed that
break from just the routine of life and getting in
those old ruts where you just kind of dig in

(26:08):
with each other, and we just got away and we
had fun. And to this day, I mean, we've been
home a few weeks in his filled are relationship tank
and even when we do have those run ins, still
he just doesn't It's like there's a closeness there that
is paying back in dividends. So I just think getting

(26:29):
that one on one time with your child and letting
them maybe giving them choice, is not like, oh, you
can do anything you want in the entire world. But
you know, hey, do you want to go to Ripley's
believe it or not? Do you want to go to
wax museums? Do you want to go to spend the
night at a get a little Priceline dot com cheap
hotel in your own hometown. But that time bonding with
your child outside of your normal environment, I mean it

(26:51):
just it developed such intimacy that that we really need
with our kids, right. I love that. That's such a
good reminder of your parents or maybe just you know,
investing in any relationship that you're in, like that could
transfer over to maybe even your spouse, Like are y'all
taking time to get away from it all and go
out and and fill up your relationship? Tank? Oh? Who

(27:16):
was it? Like? Um, did you ever watch a Real
Housewives of Orange County? Oh? Of course not. I was like,
she's probably too busy. But back in the day, I
used to because I haven't watched Bravo since I became
a mom really as much as I used to. But
I was obsessed and Vicky on there. If anybody's listening
and loves her, shout out Vicky. She used to always
talk about her love Tank and she feel like my

(27:38):
love tank is empty or my love tank is full,
and that just made me think of that. Um, so
we leave and we gotta Filly shut her back up again.
It's so so true. Um okay, well, that'll will wrap
here for today. But then, um quickly before we go,
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Love it can't wait. I'm gonna be I'm like talking
on the August first, put into my calendar the Noonday
Fall launch and then um, Jess will be back on

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next week and we'll talk a little bit more because
she's see clearly she has a lot. You're full of
all kinds of different things and I love it, but
I want to talk in perfect churach. Second, next thing,
we're gonna talk about a new friend that I'm aid
and literally just met him the other night through a

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friend of a friend. So I went to high school
with this guy, Chris. He now lives in Pagosa Springs, Colorado,
where my sister lives. So when we were there a
few weeks ago, we all went to dinner. Then he
was like, Hey, have you met my friend Matt Moore
that lives in Nashville And he also has these amazing
cookbooks and works with Southern Living and he happens to
be a pilot too, and he flies airplanes, so he

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could be you know, and he like lives in our neighborhood.
So and him and his wife, they have two kids.
So it seemed like, you know, we kind of needed
to meet this guy. So I decided to have a
barbecue at my house and invited a bunch of friends,
and again this guy met first time. We're gonna be
having him over, and I decided to google one of
his recipes and make it and have it waiting, you

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know for when everybody arrived, and I don't I was
kind of nervous, like do you make somebody else's recipe
when they come over, because I mean, that could be flattering,
but also it could go terribly wrong if it doesn't
taste right, because I mean, the master is coming over.
So I went ahead and went for it, and it
turns out it was amazing and it was a lot
of people's favorite dish of the night. So I thought

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I would share with you all a little bit about
Matt again given that he's a new friend, and also
encourage you all to just have a barbecue at your house,
like it was so much fun. It's been a while
since my husband and I did that, like just got
every It really kind of put us some gear to
kind of take care of some stuff in the backyard
that we needed to do. I've been wanting to pot

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some plants and clean the windows. I mean, little things
like that that are just always on your to do list,
but you don't knock it out. But then when you
decide to have people over for a barbecue, you start
knocking out that punch list. And it felt really good
to get the house together in the backyard looking good,
and then we had all of our friends over and
it was I don't know. It was just so fun,
Like it started at five thirty and we had some

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friends that didn't leave till ten thirty at night, and
I had to work the next day. I was kind
of like, okay, parties over, gotta go. But I mean,
it really was just that fun to get everybody together.
So my husband and I were like, we're for sure
doing this more often. We've got to do it. It
just makes sense. So if you're one of those people
where you need to get stuff done around the house, well,
plant a party and buy a bunch of people over.

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You'll get it all done. And then you'll get together
with all your friends and realize how much fun it
is and you need to do it more. So. Speaking
to more Matt More, the cookbooks that he has super cute.
This one book is called Have Her Over for Dinner,
and it's a Gentleman's Guide to Classic simple Meals. So
that way you know, if you're having a girl over
and you want to cook something really amazing, this is

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the cookbook for you. He also has Southern Gentleman's Kitchen
and South's Best Butts. It's like pit Master Secret, so
that one's definitely if you're like really into barbecuing. But
the recipe that I made was a panseared skirt steak
with chimmy churry sauce. And I had never made chimmy
cherry sauce. But that's basically like red onions, oh parsley,

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a red wide vinegar of salt, like koshers, all and all.
I mean kind of going from the top of my
head here. But I never even pans here to skirt steak.
I never even bought a skirt steak. I was like
at Whole Foods and I went up to the counter
and I'm like, Hi, do you have skirt steaks? And
those are really good. I learned if you're feeding like
a large group of people, skirt steak is something that's

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really yummy but more affordable. It's not going to be
as expensive as like other kinds of steaks, so saving
you money right there. And then the chimmy cherry sauce,
like everyone is obsessed with, even my kids. My kids
are the pickiest eaters in all the land. And we've
been eating leftovers this week and last night literally my
daughter was like she ate her her real dinner that
she had, and then she was like, is there any

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more of that meat in the fridge, and she went
in there, pulled it out, got the chimmy cherry sauce,
heated some up and ate it so kids will even
like it too. So I will put the recipe up
at Radio amy dot com if you're interested in getting
like exactly how to do it and Matt Moore's little concoction,
And you can also check out Matt Moore dot com

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and learn more about my new friend. But thank you,
Chris Cohler. I know you're probably not listening to this podcast,
but really appreciate you introducing us to our new friend,
which led to us having a barbecue at our house,
which led us to now we want to do that
all the time, Like I'm pretty sure our neighborhood people,
the ones that came over, like, we're like, yes, we
need to do this once a month. So kind of

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started a whole thing, and all because I went to
dinner with my old high school buddy Chris in Colorado.
So for this thing, I was supposed to have a
little sipper back on to talk about her breast explant surgery.
If you're not aware, maybe you're a new listener and
you haven't listened to previous episodes, or at least the
ones that she was on. Her name's Bethany, but her

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Instagram hand handle is at a little Sipper and she had,
you know, breast implants, and she didn't feel well. She
felt like they were making her sick and she needed
to get them out, and so she did, and she
just had the surgery a couple of weeks ago. So
I was excited to have her back on for a
follow up where she could update on how her body
has changed since she removed the foreign objects from her

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body that she felt were causing certain issues, and you know, if, if,
if it really helped her, Like I am so curious
about that. So anyway, I have the interview booked and
we're all set to go, and I'm at my house
and I'm now recording the podcast a lot from my house,
sometimes from the I Heart Studios where we do the
Bobby Bones Show, but I'm trying to start doing it

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at home. First of all, the room that I have
built it in is not furnaceed yet, so I know
there's an echo, and I know we're still working on
the sound quality not lost on me, but I'm like, well,
I gotta get this done. I want to make sure
that I'm still talking to you guys, and I'm here
and I'm just this is just life. I'm having to
just let it not be to try to be a

(34:47):
perfectionist about this and just be like whatever, it's out there.
So if you hear that, like oh hello, hello, it
feels like there's like an echo to me, that's why.
But furniture is being ordered and hopefully it'll fill up
this room and make it sound less, you know, echoy,
So there's that. Then it all being new equipment in

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the last I don't know a couple of months or so,
and I've done some phone interviews and I know they
haven't been that great, But I have no idea what happened.
But there's a chord that has already been fried, like
maybe a little animal came up here and shoot on
it or something. I don't know. But I ended up
spending an hour on the phone with an engineer trying
to get my phone here to work to call out
so I could talk to Bethany. I ended up getting

(35:29):
Bethany on the phone, but she was talking but it
wouldn't record her and I don't know why. So I
had to cancel the interview, so I have no Bethany.
My podcast goes up in a matter of hours and
I we won't be talking about the explant surgery. But
I do have my friend Chase here, so Chase, you

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are filling in. Sorry for the explant surgery talk, which
I can't contribute much there, No, not at all. But
I did see a funny vote and made me think
of you because you love football and so does my husband.
I think you and my husband were talking about how
football season is about to start, and I'm like, oh no,
like I can't, I can't, I can't, I'm not. I
know there's a lot of women out there. They love

(36:11):
football just as much as men. It's like it's a thing.
I love it, but like for me, no, it's not.
And it goes back to when I was a kid
and I remember my dad just watching football and ignoring me.
Maybe that's it, Like he literally would ignore me. I like, Dad, nothing, Dad,
I mean he wasn't doing it on purpose. He was
just so like honed in on what was happening. So

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I saw this quote and I thought it was kind
of funny, and it said when a woman says five
minutes like if she's getting ready and she's like, I
just need five minutes. I think like five minutes left
in the fourth quarter, and both teams have all of
their time outs, because yeah, football games go on and
on and on and on. Well, lucky for you, that's
here five minutes, when five minutes, that's about how it goes.

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So I thought I would give any of you listening
out there, any of you ladies or guys who happened
to take a while to get ready, if you're part
nor like my husband hates being late or and he
hates when I take longer than I originally said to
get ready. And so now I'm gonna be like, I'm
about five minutes. But you know, it's that kind of
five minutes fourth quarter of a football game, and all

(37:14):
teams have their time outs, and I feel like he'll
appreciate the football reference. You usually come with an overtime too.
But yeah, right, yeah, So there's a cute quote. We're
talking about that. And then also I had this cream
um with me. I'm a big fan of Inteli shade um,
which is what I use as my sunscreen. Now this
is not something I would say that is considered Um,

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I don't even know if it's considered like green or
safe for on the clean products, because I would say
when it comes to certain things in my life, I'm
just not totally there yet, and makeup is one of
them where it's really daunting to me to transfer over
to things that I've that I don't know about, especially
when I've been loyal to some products for a long time. Um,

(37:58):
but I'll get there. But in tell a shade is
something that I love because it's like broad spectrum SPF
forty five. I love the tent of it, like it
goes on really good and it just looks really pretty,
and um, it has the zinc oxide, which is really
important when it comes to sun protection on your face.
Just f y I, ladies or guys in case I
keep talking to the ladies. But Chase, there are guys

(38:20):
that listen to my podcasts. But yeah, I mean I
list okay, but I mean there's more guys than just
like you and my husband from you, Yeah, I got
an email from like you know Bob and l A.
Actually was anonymous, some guy that lived in l A.
He was in my Q and A episode on Tuesday,
but got an email anonymous. I don't even he must
have created an anonymous email accounts simply to email me

(38:41):
that if the guys starts stepping up, maybe there could
be like a little Ben thing like Ben segment um.
So anyway, Revision is a company that I love. This
Inteli shade whatever. Again, this I'm not I'm not affiliated
with these people at all. This isn't like a paid thing,
trust me. But if you are curious about this one,
I do have it on my Amazon m favorites page,

(39:02):
which you can find at radio I mean dot com.
But anyway, the company sent me this stuff. It's called
Nectar Firm, and I am so intrigued by it. Like
I I haven't opened it yet, I haven't used it,
so I have no official review, but I can assume
that Nectar Firm is for your neck and it's going
to tighten up and firm your neck, which is something

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that I am so scared of. So my grandma had
like the neck and my mom had like the neck.
Like there's some people are born with the fat pads
right there and some are not. It doesn't matter. If
you have you can be a very fit person or
you you know, may may not be. It doesn't matter
like if you have it there like you're as you age,

(39:47):
it's going to start collecting little fat cells there or
maybe the cells already there, but they're gonna start filling up,
and then it's going to create that that look under
your neck. What have you proactively done to try well,
I mean I've tried all kinds of net creams. I
try to work out my neck, but I mean doctors
have told me, like that's just not gonna work, Like
it's hereditary, like you, there's nothing we can do. So

(40:10):
Chloe Kardashian, I guess to firm up her neck in
her jawline, and I don't know if hereditarily she is
scared of that same thing, but I know she's been
very vocal about how she had this stuff done called
kibella or something. But that's not the point of my story. Um,
there is that, But then so that's something I've googled
a bunch. And then there is um like net creams

(40:31):
that I've tried, and now I want to try this
nectar firm. And then my friend Carrie Nashville beauty girl
who's come on this podcast from time to time, who
I go to from my face and I've admitted that
I've I do bo talks with her and have for
a couple of years, and she's she's amazing. I can't.
I can't even remember back to the time, like I

(40:52):
have a really wrinkly forehead. I really do, so the
fact that now it's not is pretty fascinating to me. Again,
I know I can I'm a hypocrite because like I
won't use a microwave, but I will put poison into
my forehead to make the muscles relax or do whatever.
And it does seem very vain, and it is. I'm

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just admitting that it is. It's something like I'm trying
to alter but I I don't. It's not that I'm
scared of aging, and I just want to do it
gracefully and I want to kind of slow it down.
And it's fine. I don't think that we should judge
people for if they want to get botox or not.
So um, I may or may not have gotten botox
in my neck. It's the point of this story because

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Carrie said that my neck, it would it would help
kind of some some stuff I had going on with
my neck. She wanted me to see the difference and
if I liked it, we could maybe keep doing it.
If not, I won't ever get it there again because
it'll fade in like eight weeks or whatever, maybe even longer.
Um So, I got botox in my neck. But the

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weird part is it relaxes the muscles to like I
work out and I do sit ups, and sometimes I
don't always hold my head up to do sit ups,
but now I have to because like my neck muscles
right there are so relaxed, and it feels so weird
when I do I sit up. So that that's that's
my story. So we were supposed to have a little

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super talking about how she got breast explant surgery, which
is amazing and probably the right thing for her body.
Um but and she probably would never put botox in
her neck. I don't even want to ask her about
it because she'll probably tell me, Amy, I cannot believe
you're doing that. That's so bad. But everybody has opinions
about it. Some people say it's totally fine and safe,

(42:40):
it's great, and other people are like, why would you
do that? Who knows? In twenty years we might find
out that botox was causing all kinds of horrible things
to happen. To us, but I'm like, well, at least
my neck looks good, maybe, but have you ever heard
of such a thing. I had not, So I'm just
on here at adding that I felt weird that I

(43:01):
got net botox. But Carrie, I mean, I don't know.
And a lot of my friends and even some of
you listening y'all have gone to carry and again. Her
instagram is at the Nashville Beauty Girl. I think there
is a d in there and you'll have made appointments
with her and gone. And she's always texted me anytime
you come and say I've heard about you on Amy's

(43:21):
podcast or I heard you talk about or I saw
you on Instagram. Um, and I think you'll always walk
away pretty satisfied. There's this woman at my work, Robin
at she works for my Heart, and she started going
to her and she was like, oh my gosh, she
has changed the game. And Robin recently got married, so
she was really trying to like do the whole works

(43:42):
to like feel better, look better, that whole thing. And
she just was like, Carrie was a game changer for her.
And I'll say she's been a game changer for me,
Like I feel, I feel my best, but it's teamwork.
Like I have to put in the work too, but
I definitely she definitely helps. For sure. You interested in

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some bro talks now, I think I'm good. No, no,
but I mean I think it's cool you do it,
and she does give it to guys, and that's what
she calls it is bro talks. What do you I
wonder what guys most commonly, but I mean like for
their foreheads or forehead maybe like crows feed area, I think,
but she doesn't, like she doesn't want guys to be

(44:28):
embarrassed or shamed or intimidated by it. And it is
so much more common. Like there's probably a time a
couple of years ago would I would never be able
to come on and admit that that's what I was doing.
But now I'm like whatever, who cares? Like I'm gonna
do me? And this is how this is a message
for all of you, like who cares? Just do what

(44:48):
you want to do. And if people have some crazy
opinion about it, like fine, they need why do they
need to waste their energy on what you're doing to
make yourself feel better and look good? And if you
want to warm up last night's dinner in a microwave
if you do it exactly, I am not gonna whereas
I can admit maybe I would have used to have

(45:10):
judged you for that, I'm not going to. I'm not
going to real, real quick question on the botox. So
you have to do it like continuously. It's not like
a lifetime. It's not like one, one and done. How
often you have to do that? I mean I'm not
always on schedule, but I think most people go every
three months maybe alright, like eight to twelve weeks in

(45:33):
that window, or before, or you just before if you
know you have a special event. So another botox story.
I know there was like this photo shoot going down
in Nashville, and one of my friends does here and
makeup and told me, and it's not Kelly, by the way,
because I would say that it was because she I
don't want you to to assume it's her, but it's
somebody else. And a girl showed up for the photo

(45:53):
shoot literally straight fresh from the doctor getting botox for
the first time. But she was freaking out about the
photo to shoot and she wanted botox for it, and
but she went the day of and botox has to
take time to settle in like it takes, you know,
for some people four to five days maybe before you
really start to see it. I think some people even

(46:15):
eight days and then boom it just like you wake
up and it's like settled and you're like, oh beautiful.
Not that the lines and whatever are not beautiful, but
um it just you do see it switch and you're like, oh, wow,
that's that's amazing. But she went the day of the
photo shoot. So I'd recommend if you're getting botox for
the first time, don't, or you're getting botox for an

(46:37):
event that you have in your future or a photo shoot,
make sure you do it like two weeks out like
I would do it two weeks before whatever. So some
people do botox just for that. They don't do it
like a maintenance thing all the time, but they do
it for events. And I will say though, if well,
from what I've heard, even from Carrie and other people, like,

(46:58):
if you do do it and try to maintain it,
it's just helping slowing the aging process because you don't
let the wrinkles be there, so then you don't form
the lines. That makes sense, you know, So if you can,
if you don't ever let the lines be there. You
don't have any bring Oh yeah, but if if I
were to, if I didn't have any botox, and trust me,
I have the wrinkliest forehead you've ever seen. Like I

(47:20):
used to go to yoga and in certain moves you
have to like you know, you're doing like certain moves
that just make your face do certain things, and I
would always be in the mirror and I would be
like so self conscious of all of the lines in
my forehead, which is dumb because nobody at yoga cares.
Nobody cares about the lines in my forehead. Maybe I
should just not have the botox and who cares? But

(47:40):
you know what, it makes me happy, So that's what
I'm getting. And so far, I don't have a review
on the neck botox. I don't know how I feel
about it. I don't honestly know if I even see
a difference. But maybe it's just like subtle things that
are going to prevent me from having my the neck
that is genetically going to be mine. M M. And
I'm gonna also thank you Revision for sending me the

(48:03):
next to firm because I'm gonna like slather this on
my neck tonight and see if I start to see
any difference there. Yeah, it says to put it on
your neck and jawline twice daily. You're taking a proactive approach.
You're not really because you don't have any neck issues currently.

(48:25):
I'm being proactive about it, and I have been proactive
about it for like I'm really trying. I've done I
do like facial exercises on Like if you google YouTube,
there's like face yoga exercises I did. I used to
have my sister and I had this super funny face
yoga and I called it Vega Get It face yoga

(48:47):
video that I've made for the Bobby Bones Show, like
way back in the day when we lived in Austin,
and it was so funny. It was sort of like
a face yoga parody, like I was making fun of
all the face yoga on there and now here I'm
doing it. But We've did like ridiculous exercises and then
at the end of the video we were like, and
then once you've completed your practice, you stick your face

(49:08):
in a bowl full of ice water. And we had
this huge bowl full of ice water and it was
freezing cold, and we just slammed our heads down into it.
It obviously did like not make sense, but we were like,
what you want to do is freeze all your work
that you've done with the ice bath, and it's like
I couldn't even barely do it in the video without laughing,
and now hearing it back, it probably sounds stupid, but

(49:29):
if you were to see it, you would love it.
And I wish I could send you to that video. However,
it's no longer on YouTube. Like a lot of our
stuff from the Bobby Bones Show before we moved to
Nashville got wiped clean, and that was part of it.
Also they got wiped away. Was my silent video about
the pig when I gave birth to the baby pig,
and I had to make a silent film, so I

(49:50):
needed it to be dramatic because we couldn't use words,
and so long story short that it was called Bacon
That's what I titled it. And I was pregnant. I
got pregnant. Well, I used to eat bacon like all
the time, and then I got pregnant, and then all
I wanted during my pregnancy was bacon. I ate eight
eight to eight, and then I went into labor and

(50:11):
I gave birth and I went to it for filming purposes.
I had to go out. I needed. I knew in
my mind I wanted to give birth to a pig.
So I contacted this baby pig farm in like sam Arcus.
It's right outside of Austin, and they let me borrow
some pigs and I gave I found this cute, little
tiny one, and I gave birth to it in the car.

(50:31):
We couldn't even make it to the hospital. I went
into labor. In the video, it's like ah, and I
gave birth. The baby pig came out and I was
like so in love. Like I was like, oh, my
baby pig. Everything I've ever wanted, because this thing was cute,
and I would bottle feed it, I would read to it,
I played at music. And then it dawned on me.
One day, I'm about to go eat some bacon, but

(50:51):
then I look at my baby pig and I look
at the bacon, and I look back at the pig,
and I'm like what. And I realized at that moment,
I can longer have bacon because of my baby. So
then the rest of the film is me protesting the
bacon section at the grocery store. And also I got
one of my friends to wear a cow suit and

(51:14):
we went and hit the streets of Austin and I
was like, I had my baby in a sling on
my you know, I was out in public with my baby,
like I was protesting with my baby. I didn't really
have the pig with me, but it just like looked
like it was in there, and my friend was dressed
as a cow, and um uh. I just was holding

(51:34):
up signs like I think I said, like eat cow's
not bacon or something, and then I was like pointing
to my friend that was dressed as a cow. And
then oh no, no, oh no, no, this is what
happened now I'm now it's all coming back to me.
And I was like, what did we do with the cow? Okay,
I know, I'm I'm protesting with the on the side
of the road, holding up a sign like don't eat bacon,

(51:57):
don't eat bacon, and the cow comes up to me
slams the signs out of my hands because he wants
people to eat bacon and not him, and so then
it was a fight between me and the cow. It's
so funny is people are like, what is going on?
I know, but this is literally like one of your
most proud Oh I want It was a silent film

(52:18):
festival and I won first place. I don't know it
was this just totally boring to listen to, but you
feel like you're learning more about me as a person,
Like that's for whatever reason that I was in charge of.
I mean, I directed, I wrote you super creative. You're
not living in just now I'm in mask. Like there's
like today, it's so much happening. If Bobby were to

(52:40):
come to us today and be like, hey, we're gonna
do a silent film festival, everyone has to come up
with their own silent film. I would be like, creatively,
my brain would be like, I have no idea. Um,
I don't even know how I would come up with that.
Like but looking back, and I know it sounds so
dumb because it was like a dumb, little silly Bobby
Bone show silent film US. Well, winning first place was

(53:01):
like a really big deal and I was so it was.
It was. It was just an awesome moment. And even
when I think back on it, I'm like, it really was.
It really was a great silent film. But I would
never be able to think of that today. I need
something and some people are probably listening right now and
they're like, this is not this is a dumb idea,
it's horrible. Who cares? But for me, I loved it,

(53:22):
and I wonder sometimes how I can tap back into that,
Like just life is so different. I I do feel
like going through the trauma of losing my mom. Something
pre um my Mom's like things I did my mom
dying is the only definitive thing that I have to
separate stuff that I did before she died and then

(53:45):
stuff that I've done after. So I have no idea
if it's actually really related, but it's something that I've
thought about, like if there is correlation, because um, there's
so many little projects that I used to do and
I would just think of them and do them and
maybe I had the energy and the time. Well, sure

(54:06):
I had way more energy and way more time then
because execution is a bit you can have ideas and
just keep them in your back pocket. But I mean
I would go out and film stuff like all the time,
and I would make videos. I knew how to do.
I movie. If you asked me to pull up a
movie right now and make you a movie, it would
take me like three hours whereas back then it would
have taken me like fifteen minutes, you know, like I
just don't have that. I think with you, it's more

(54:28):
of a time thing You've got a lot of. It's
also to some sort of like like some of my
something about my creative, my creativity got shelved and like
I haven't been able to pull it back out. I
kind of figure that out. I know, I can kind
of see what you're saying. I mean, I don't know
if anybody else listening, like can you all relate to that,
if you ever experienced some sort of trauma where then

(54:50):
it like altered your creativity. Maybe other people did the opposite,
like it took you to a whole another level, and
now it's like wow like that, But to me it's
it's suppressed something like I just can't tap into it.
And I knew creativity is sort of like a muscle too,
like the more maybe I was working it more back then,

(55:10):
so coming up with ideas were came easier. That could
be it. And then just life, especially since you know,
losing my mom, a lot has changed, like even moving
to Nashville and work just getting busier and you know,
the kids coming, the whole adoption process, even taking five
years even though we didn't have them there. That was stressful.

(55:32):
Then my dad getting cancer stressful, um other you know,
my podcast equipment not working stressful. Just kidding, but I
will say um again, not sponsored. But if you've listened
to Chase on here before last time, he cheers. We're

(55:53):
both drinking orange zevia um, which is the best flavor
if you ask me. Someone was over UM the other
day and they were like, Oh, I love the grape,
and I'm like, what the grape? It's so gross, But
people that my husband loved the grape. He loved it.
So I'll try to get a little sipper back on.

(56:14):
But for now, you've listened to us just ramble about
lots of things, So I hope you enjoyed this little
quick We had to throw something in here together, a
little thing um to replace explant surgery. It was was close,
close close. From time to time, I make a thing

(56:43):
kind of what I'm really into on Netflix or what
I'm binging, and you all seem to enjoy it, because
I mean for me, I like to hear from people
what they're watching, because really that's how I find out
about things. I want to watch is just word of mouth.
So I will say that my husband and I wrapped
up the Chernobyl series, which was ginally on HBO, but
we don't have HBO, so I had to buy it
on Amazon Prime. So you should be able to find

(57:05):
it somewhere where you can watch it. But it is
so crazy to me that we were alive. I was,
at least because it happened in nine six for this
nuclear crazy accident thing that went down in Russia. I mean,
it's I don't want to give anything away. I mean
you may know the history of it a little bit,
but I mean, of course I had heard of it.
And then Chernobyl is gaining such popularity right now because

(57:30):
of this like series that was put together. Did I
say it as a documentary. I don't think I did,
because it's not. I mean, it's a people are acting
out what happened in real life, and then at the
end they give you updates on the people that were
a part of it, and like where they are now
or when they passed away or all. I mean, it's
just crazy that this even happened, and then that people

(57:50):
are going there now it's still considered to be radioactive
and people now because of the popularity, are going there
to like get pictures for their Instagram, like when a
chernobyl for the Graham And then now I'm like, what,
you might as well stick your head in a microwave
or something. I mean, again, I don't even know for
sure if microwaves are bad or if that would even
be the same thing. But another thing that is crazy

(58:12):
to me that my husband and I watched is called
The Great Hack, and that one is on Netflix and
definitely seems sort of one sided in a way. So
I'll go ahead and preface it with that, like when
you watch it and be like, I can't believe Amy
recommended this to me if your political beliefs tend to
go a different way than what the documentary is putting
out there. But really, it's just interesting to see how

(58:34):
this data company called Cambridge and Analytica like gather data
about all of us people all throughout the United States too,
you know, persuade people to vote a certain way in
the two thousand and sixteen election. Like it just really
is nuts. So how much information they have on people,

(58:56):
Like when it comes to some people, they have like
five thousand different data point Like I used to think like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe Instagram gave me that ad,
like that's so crazy they heard me talking about it
or boom, But really my phone, I think, or my phone.
But whoever is listening to my phone? Hi? Hello? I
have my phone by me right now, and I know
they're probably listening. But if they're listening, like they're just

(59:16):
getting to know me. And so that's why my ads
are becoming more and more like stuff I want to see,
because it's just collecting information about me constantly, and I
gotta say I kind of appreciate it, although it is
scary at the same time. So it's like, well, I
love that you just recommended that super cute dress that
I'm going to order now, or those shoes that I
definitely would one by, but or maybe even that product

(59:39):
that I want to, you know, test out. But at
the same time, you know, I have to be able
to be okay with them. You know, what are what
are what are my data rights? Like? What are what
is anything private? Anymore? So I guess the answer to that,
especially after watching this is Nope, it's not. So It's
just very eye opening and a little bit scary and

(01:00:02):
again you can find it on Netflix. But yeah, Cambridge Analytica,
like some people that even worked there, they have come
out since like at the time they felt like what
they were doing was really like just fascinating, which it is, um,
but it was crazy like all the things they were
collecting and how they could influence people to you know,
do things simply by propaganda that they would push out

(01:00:23):
to them on their social media sites Facebook in particular,
and yeah, it just they then then they kind of
felt like, oh, shoot, like this was cool, but now
I feel like I'm on the dark side and what
have we done? And this is crazy? Um. So it's
just interesting to see their perspective like when they were
working there and then now when they're like, oh, probably

(01:00:45):
wasn't right what we did. It's kind of like, um
cheating in a way. But that those are my two recommendations,
Chernobyl and The Great Hack if you're looking for something
good to maybe binge this coming weekend. Okay, so before

(01:01:05):
I get into the email, shout out and if if
you made it to this point of the podcast, thank
you for listening to all four things. I really appreciate
you loyal listeners and those of you that have subscribed
and are telling your friends and rating and reviewing. I
mean really that's how um, you know we can grow
this thing and keep it going, is y'all telling people

(01:01:26):
posting about it on Instagram always helps? You know, go
give it five stars, you know, if you have time
and you actually really do think it's it's worth that.
So that's my thank you for that and my encouragement
for that. But um, if you are looking for a
fun gift to give teachers in your life, like say
your kids are going back to school and you want
to show a little teacher appreciation, I just want to

(01:01:48):
kind of throw out there that are four things to
it's are really really great for that. And right now
we're shifting some support to a school. We were working
with Project Metas Shares and Maternity d Center and now
we're working with their school and Mary and I are
super excited because in late August we are going to
visit the school and the maternity center in central Plateau,

(01:02:10):
Haiti and we like cannot wait because we've had a
couple of trips planned and we've had to cancel them
because of unrest there, and now we're going to get
to go. But just throwing that out there. You can
customize a tote for the teacher in your life and
maybe fill it up with some self care goodies because
teachers need probably coffee and bubble that stuff and and
wine or maybe like a gift card to target. Um.

(01:02:32):
We also have some pre made totes you don't even
have to customize if you don't want to think. We
have one called the Life Goals Tote, which is you know,
pretty awesome and just like pretty generic enough for people,
so just check it out. All that can be found
at radio Amy dot com under pimp and joy in
a squall like if you click that tab, it'll take
you to a lot of different things, but particularly the tote,

(01:02:54):
since that's what I'm talking about here. So I just
wanted to throw that out there as an idea in
a way that you can support teachers in your life
but also give back to Haiti at the same time.
And now with that said, I will get into the
email shoutout. This came from Krista. Hey, Amy, Krista here
from Okay. See, my best friend Kim introduced me to

(01:03:14):
your podcast on a work road trip, and I just
wanted you to know how much it impacted me. I've
struggled off and on the last five years. I'm now
thirty with anxiety and let me tell you, it is
so easy to get down in the dumps. But I've
learned a lot on being open and vulnerable and how
to use it to benefit other people. Lots of people

(01:03:34):
want to voice and being open with our struggles. I
think it helps shine a light to bring us all together.
The line in your song life ain't always pretty, but hey,
it's pretty beautiful today. Just stuck in my soul. Shout out,
Walker Hayes. Life isn't always roses, but the moments we
have our precious and fleeting, So choosing joy is something
we all have the power to do. So Krista, I

(01:03:57):
just love that email and thank you for sharing with us.
And I think it's so true. The more we can
be open and vulnerable with others and sharing things, the
more others don't feel alone, and it really can connect
people and bring us all together. And I love that
you quoted the song that Walker made the theme song
for the podcast to which, Speaking of Walker, I've got
an interview coming up next week with Walker and his wife, Laney,

(01:04:20):
and they have an amazing story. I mean, he's a
country artist and she's um an amazing wife and mom
to six kids that they have together. Um, they had
a seventh baby who they lost at childbirth, and we'll
get into a little bit about that and another cool
thing that Walker has called the Craig Fund, which is

(01:04:42):
this goose bumps worthy story. So I can't wait to
sit down with them. And so if you have everyone
always wondered. If anybody's wondered, like, who's singing that theme song,
it's Walker Hayes. And Walker and his wife are coming
on the podcast soon, So thank you for listening every
single week. Really appreciated. On Tuesday, we have another Q
and eight episode, so make sure you check that out.

(01:05:02):
See that be kind to joy never life can be
kind to never lie, cast up road things, a little
food for yourself. So life ain't always pretty, but hey,
it's pretty beautiful. Thing laugh, a little more family tightened

(01:05:25):
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