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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, Cass up road, A little food for you. So life.
Oh it's pretty Bay, It's pretty beautiful. Thank you. Laugh
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a little more kicking with four Happy Thursday. Sitting here
across from my friend Kaylee also known as Kaylee Dickerson,
also known as mom to Remington, also known as wife
to Russell Dickerson. So what's it like being a rock
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star's wife? Oh, my gosh, it's so amazing with a
professional wi girl. No, it's it's fun, it's wild. It
is never the same day twice when he's going on
tour with Timber Girl. Oh my alrd, we all are.
We're all going back up my mom, the baby. We're
all going on to her, all of us. Well, that's
going to be amazing. I know it. I'm secretly helping, like, well,
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they come be on my podcast, have you? I mean
you've probably had them on here, haven't you know? I
have not? Actually, I mean we have Tim on the
Bobby Bone Try. I think he was up in the
studio last week, but Faith called me once stop it. Yes,
and I didn't really quite understand what was happening. But
it was during my adoption process, and she's adopted and
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Haiti had been hit. I believe it was Hurricane Matthew.
And she knew that I was waiting to bring two
kids home from Haiti, and she was watching the news
and saw the hurricane going near Haiti, and she said
she just thought of me and tried to understand or
empathize as a mom what it must be like to
know that a hurricane's ripping through the country where your
kids are and you're trying to get them to America.
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And so she called just tell me that she was
thinking about me. So I was like, Okay, that is
the sweet saying the phone call is sort of a
blur to me. It almost doesn't even feel real when
I say it. But how fun. You're gonna be bff
with her? Well, I hope. So we'll find out the
wives Club the last except she's like also artists and
why she's like but she's a special niche. But to
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be fair, like she's not on the tour, right, So
that's what I mean by let's let's be honest, she's
probably gonna pop out. Yeah, I don't know this as
a fact. Don't like mark my words if you've already
bought tickets to this tour, But odds are at some
point she's coming out, Well, are you going to pop out? No? No,
I don't do that. I sit in front of house
and if he wants to come visit me there sometimes
that's fine by me, but I don't. I don't do
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the pop on stage. I mean maybe eventually when Remington's bigger,
maybe if he wants to go out there or something.
And how old is he? No? A year and a half.
You guys were like the first people to know we
were pregnant, like the very first people. I had just
gone to get my six week ultrasound or eight weeks.
It was early the day that y'all came over for
dinner and he fell down our stairs. I didn't. I
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mean when I was leaving and I had on those
boots and it was dark, and y'all just walk away
and stone yes, And of course I twist over my ankle.
I mean, I didn't twist my ankle, but it's like
it just rolled and then boom. I landed right on
the And I didn't even know this until the next
morning on the show and you said it, I was
like she fell that. It wasn't like I was like,
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I need to clarify, it wasn't like a drunken vault
on the stairs, obviously know, it's like our our house
has like this wooded back, hard to see like pathway
back to the cars, and that's where we sent you out,
and we didn't bring it a flashlight out for you
or anything. And it felt so bad. It's fine, I'm
clumsy anyway, So I felt so bad right now. I
would love to start off with some gratitude and hear
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four things that you're thankful for today, and let's just
see where it leads us. I love it well. First
of all, I'm thankful for adult conversation. That's what I'm
thankful for right now. I've been hanging out with my
kid for days, which is great, but like having an
adult conversation right now, I'm very thankful for this conversation
right get repaired because we're so mature. I love to
talk about all the mature things. I can't wait. I'm
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thankful for that. I'm thankful for time at home. We've
been home for almost like two weeks, which has been
nice to get a rhythm. I like being home. I
like traveling too, but I'm thankful to be home. The
weather thank you Jesus, it is getting warm and sunny outside.
Thankful for that, I've got three. I got one more.
Thankful for grandparents because they have been helping me excessively
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as of late, which lets me do things like this,
like my mom's watching my son right now. Do you
all have home on both sides or okay, yeah, I'd
spoiled rotten have both sets of grandparents who are so
helpful and around all the time. It's amazing, because it's
got to be huge. My in laws are recently here
and it was such a blessing and such a help.
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They fly in from Texas, rent a car, and then
they can help with school drop off, school pickups and
just being a part of that. But that's good quality
time for them with the kids too. And then it's
a teeny tiny little break from our hectic schedules trying
to get from point A to point B all the time. Kids.
Once Remy is a teenager, get ready for it. I
can't believe they're teenagers. Well yes to Shia is going
to be fifteen, and then Stevenson is eleven. He'll be
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twelve in August, so it's bonkers. But I'm with you
on the whole weather thing. I feel like, do you
feel your mood shift with seasons? Yeah? I feel like
my nature shifts with seasons. Like in the winter, I'm
definitely more of like a bear who hibernates, Like I
want to be in my house watching Hallmark movies under
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a blanket by a fire, like cozy, like like Hallmark
Christmas movies. Yeah, oh yeah, okay, Yeah that's exciting. And
then summer I'm like, I'll walk for twelve years, Like
I'll just go for walks and walk and walks, and
my activity level changes. I would say two questions regarding
both of those scenarios. So when you're at home and
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your home body, like, what's I know you love to cook,
so what is your your go to meal for that
that home season where you're cozying up with the Hallmark
movie or what do you have on hand for a
night like that? Uh? Carbs always and Russell gets so
annoyed because he is that he's the healthy one in
our marriage. He is very disciplined, loves to work out
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because he's like, can we eat something healthy? Can we?
And I'm making like pasta for the third night in
a row, you know, But that's a that's a wintery thing.
In the summer, I'm very seasonal about a lot of
things actually, like foods in the winter like pot roasts
or carbs or whatever. Summer I'm like, let's grill everything
and make steak salads, and that's like the healthy season
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for me. Well, that's listening to your body season. I mean,
I think that in the winter months we carve up
and then in the summer months our bodies were outside
more so we want vegetables and fruits and things that
are going to hydrate us. I feel that with the seasons. Two,
when you are outside in hiking more like what's your
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your go to? Have you heard of forest bathing? No? Okay,
well that's where you just go sit in the middle
of the woods. Like next time you're a Bradner or somewhere,
you can just go be in the trees with nothing,
you know, distracting you. You're just breathing and with your thoughts.
I guess maybe you could have some meditation music if
you wanted to, but you're just supposed to go sit.
You can take a blanket and just be one with
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the forest with your clothes on. It's not like we
we live in, so honestly, the clothes could be totally optional.
You can force anytime I want, yes, with or without
close I guess we all have the perfect house for them.
No one. No one's close enough to really know. But
I think I would feel real weird out there in
the buff. Yeah, I think it would so good. Call
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on that you get to force bathe at home. But
when you are hiking and walking more in those summer months,
do you listen to music podcasts? Do you like to
go with friends or do you like to reflect with
your thoughts all of the above. It depends some days
I'm gonna learning mood, and when I'm gonna learning mood,
I'll put on like a sermon or a podcast. What
are your go to or do you have a favorite love?
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I love my girl Anny Downs, I love most things.
Burnet Brown is on. I like to learn like heart
and spiritual things. Have you watched Berne's HBO special? I
have not. Do you have HBO Max? Yes? I do, Okay,
I need to watch it. That was like out a
while ago. I feel like that came out like maybe
when I had a baby. Oh no, this one is
new new. That one is alex one from a long
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time ago, but this one is on HBO Max and
it's that liss of the Heart. Yes, okay, so Hayley
Hubbard bought me that book and I started reading parts
of it. But of course I'm a mom, so I
don't get to really like sit and read very often,
so this would be good for me. I would. I
need to watch it. I love her, I love, love
love her so much wisdom, and she's tells stories. She
makes it digestible. Yes, because she's doing complex things. I
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feel like her researches and it's just very thorough and
in depth, and then she delivers it to us in
a way that just makes so much sense. And so
far as you and I are sitting here talking, I've
watched one episode. Knows how many I'll knock out by
the time this airs, but I really have enjoyed it
a lot. Is she talking about the like being happy
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for others and like the jealousy episode one, She's just
setting up what the series is going to be about,
and so far I haven't even completed the entire episode,
but it's about the different emotions that she's gonna touch on.
She talked about portals and how she loves a good
portal in a movie. And what's scary about going through
a portal is if you're teleporting to somewhere, it's like
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where are you going? And then what are you leaving?
And the like in life we go through things where
we wish we could just like you know, walk through
a door and be somewhere else, but then it's scary,
like what's on the other side. So she did something
like that, and she's got movie clips yes for can
you get Back? That was someone from the audience said
that what if I want to go back? And then
she talked about true anguish, the difference between that and
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being sad, like have you ever felt I'll just ask you,
I mean, have you ever felt anguish? Yeah? Yeah, she
was talking about a moment. She's like, I can't give
the details because it's another person's story, but like, just
stop everything that you're doing to your knees, go into
this mode that is just a completely different thing than
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being sad regular sadness. Yeah, it was like talking about it.
It was similar when y'all came over for that dinner.
I had had that ultrasound and this was the second
time I've been pregnant because I had had an early
miscarriage before that, So when I went in, I was
triggered and nervous about an ultrasound because the only other
one I had had was that there was no baby
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right when I thought there was one, and I was
early early they called it a chemical pregnancy, which is
like six weeks in, so that was early the first time.
So when y'all came over and they found there was
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like the sack and all the things, but they were like,
there's no heartbeat yet. So the anguish was obviously the
first one, and like going home weeping, not being okay,
like painfully sad, which is like the difference, right almost
Like when I think about it, I think like the
ache like in your gut, like in your stomach, like
it hurts, feeling hurts. Yeah, So that was I couldn't talk.
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I couldn't None of my friends really knew. So Russell
was calling my two best friends bawling, being like, well,
this is what's going on. You don't even know. And
so I was in this weird limbo of Okay, I'm pregnant,
I think, and I hope this doesn't turn out how
the other one turned out, and I was sad that
it wasn't just like this clear cut, here's amazing, like
you're pregnant, here's the heartbeat, here's all the stuff, you know,
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And I'll never forget Bobby that night. I don't know
why we said it, because we took us a while
to say it, and I was like, well, we're pregnant,
we think, And Bobby looked at us. He was like, wait,
are we excited or are we not excited? Like you
wanted to know, like which emotion? He was like, which emotion? Really?
Right now? Like speaking of emotion, Yeah, we are excited,
but I'm still scared, you know. And and we hadn't
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all hung out that much, so we're like, hey, welcome
to the deep end with the Dickerson's like here we are.
But yeah, Like I love that she's giving verbiage. If
you haven't heard about this book, she's she talks about
articulating emotion with there's so many more words than we
use than just happy, sad, angry, you know, and in
giving us the tools through language to communicate how we
actually feel, yeah, which is crucial and it is interesting.
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She pulled the audience like how many of you grew
up with access to these types of words, and like
your parents encouraged it and tried to make sure that
you knew And I think like three people raised right
hands and and and I had great parents, but that
was not same. There was some avoiding that went on
my family big times. We've been under the rug go
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to sleep tomorrow, like it never happened. Never saw my
mom cry, and she went through some things that I
would say would be legit, okay, that would bring me
into the emotion anguish. And I mean, I'm sure she
had her own moments, but like I never saw it,
and my dad certainly was like nothing to see here, blessed.
I'm so happy that the world is like learning how
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to get healthy. But yes, so anyway, when I listen
or learn, I'm trying to learn things like this tools
to help myself other people. I just love. When I
listened to Burne, I'm like, oh, when that conflict went
wrong with this person, that was what was happening, Like
this was the miscommunication likely or like she was talking about,
like the ability to be happy for other people. And
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I've encountered as my husband gets more successful, there are
a couple of people in my life that aren't happy
that our life looks out it looks really Yeah, like
they're close enough that you can tell, you know, and
that's hard, but like we're not like that. Like if
someone else gets something great, I don't want them to
not have it because I don't have it. And there
are people like that. And she talks about the difference
between jealousy and envy, and when you're jealous of something,
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it's like, well, I I want that, but I also
I'm not mad at you that you have it, but
I want that, Like I'm jealous of your vacation that
was amazing, Like I wish I could go do that.
Like envy is like I think of getting this right,
I could be getting it totally wrong. Y'all listen to
her actual thing, but it was like envy is you
have that, and I wish I had that, but I
can't have that, So I wish you can't have it either.
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And when you feel that from some people, like you
get that vibe. Yeah, it's not a lot, but there's
some sad there's sad people in the world, you know,
And there's people who think that there's scarcity that if
you have something that means they can't, which is just
isn't true, Like I believe there's always room at the table,
Like I believe God is infinite, so there's infinite opportunity
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for everybody, Like just because I have a wonderful husband
doesn't mean someone else can't, right, And it's not like
there's plenty that's like there's like there's plenty of guys
out there, you know, like and y'all both have worked
incredibly hard to get to where Russell is today in
his career, and you you right there with him, like
explain to people your piece for this whole puzzle. I mean, like,
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so what do you do on like everything? It's not
like this was an overnight thing. And I remember Russell
coming on the Bobby Bones show a years ago, and
I knew Ali had talked about him from the dry house.
She had said, y'all need to meet my friend Russell.
He's amazing. And I was like, okay, yeah, I don't know.
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I don't every day, right, I don't really control who
comes on the show. And then one day Bobby said, well,
this guy Russell Differency and I was like, oh, this
is Ali's friend. Yeah, and then he played and then
even then you didn't hear much after that. It was
kind of like, he seems cool, but the grind was
still happening, and to be honest, it's still happening. It
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still happen, but now, I mean, he's got hits out there.
And this was way before that. So what was your
life like in the man? In the coming up of
Russell D. It was all hands on deck both of us.
We had nothing, We had nothing going on. So I
was a photo video person. We met in college doing
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music together. We didn't do music together, but we went
to music school together, and then I ended up doing
photo video because I liked it way better. And then
it was like no afternoon. He'd written every song on
his EP, which was his first EP that he produced
with his buddy in a little apartment duplex on Blackman
Road in town like this. It's crazy. It wasn't this
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big epic studio recording, right. So he did Yours Blue
Tacoma and every little thing We're on this EP, and
all three of those songs ended up going number one.
Let me see if I can do this on yours.
I'm gonna sing flute to Cooma, California, and then every little,
every little thing, that's me. That's great there. You should
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have gone to music school. Should all know the songs
that we're talking about, the buzz of the song. So
every label he had all those songs, and every label
in town was like no, no, no no. And so
I was like, Okay, well, I don't think we're delusional.
I think these songs are gonna work. And so we
went on a back road in Nashville and I filmed
his first music video for Yours, and a thunderstorm rolled
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in like we were going to film. I was like, God,
to be great if we had a thunderstorm. One just
rolls right in, lightning behind him everything. Everyone thought it
was special effects, and I'm like, no, we couldn't have
afforded that. Like that year we made twelve thou dollars
combined joint income, Like I don't know how we survived.
And I made his first music video and it ended
up that got him on the radio, and then it
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was not That video was nominated for a CMT, and
the rest just snowballed from there, really, and so we
toured together in a van with the bandon crew and
I sold the merch, I designed the merch, I did
the like highlight videos at the show, I'd stopped selling
the merch to go film. The ten people there to
watch his show made it look like there was like
hundreds of people. And then yeah, that slowly but surely,
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I got to retire from troll And finally we ended
up on a bus, so I didn't have to drive anymore,
and then we could hire merch person so I didn't
have to sell the merch anymore. And then we could
hire a photo person so I didn't have to do
that anymore. So now I'm just retired, is what I say.
I've retired and I have a podcast and I have
a child. And yes, I'm glad you mentioned that, because
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I want to talk about Coffee with Kayleie, which is
under Annie Down's Yes Network, speaking of her you mentioned
earlier that sounds fun. Yes, that sounds fun network, Yes,
which you're it's very fitting that you're under that umbrella.
So why is that podcast important to you? And also
you've taken it on the road, like speaking of Russell
being on tour, so in the different cities that he's in,
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you do meet ups or yeah, not not just me,
tickets are sold you call it a meet up. Yeah,
we do we call it up. I don't really. It
was like, there has to be a better name for this.
But because I did all his photo video, I used
to also take the pictures in his meet and greet
and so eventually, which was hilarious at first when no
and didn't like they didn't know who I was or anything,
the occasionally be like can I give him? Can I
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kiss you on the cheek or something like in the picture,
and he would just point at me to be like, well,
you gotta ask my wife. And I was like, Russell,
will you stiff? Like he used to do it for
shock value, like, and I was like, can you stop
your making them so uncomfortable? It was like, first of all,
just say no, okay, but anyway, So I used to
do that, and then in that I got to meet
so many of the fans, you know, like they'd be like,
hey Ley, can we have a picture with you two?
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And and I would sit and I'll talk to him
about their lives and all this different stuff. And I
really enjoyed it. And then finally got to be too much.
So it was making his meet and greets go too long, etcetera.
So I stopped going to his meet and greets, and
then I was like, I really miss it, like I
miss hanging out with everyone too. You know. They were like,
since we built it together, it kind of felt like
our people together. And I was a professional coffee goer,
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that's what I say, Like we get coffee with my
friends all the time and talk about what was going
on in their lives. And I was like, you know what,
I feel like these conversations would be helpful for more
than just us. So I made it a podcast and
then I was like, maybe people will want to like
have coffee in real life and ask me questions, and
so I put the meetups like online, and then they
started just selling out and I was like, okay, apparently
they want to do that. And it's so it's so
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fun for me. I really enjoy it. Not everybody likes
like meet and great scenarios. Where I love it. It's
that human connection and knowing, Okay, these are the people
that it was so sweet and their questions are so
thoughtful or like occasionally they'll be like, so, well, how
can we pray for you guys or something and I'm like,
excuse me, what, Like this is so kind? Or like
I was praying for you about this the other day,
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and like, I hope this turns out or I thought
I was going to help other people, and it's like
returned back to me so much more than I ever imagined. Like,
I love it. It's so fun. Right when we sat
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down to record this, Kaylee was getting in her chair
and she had a little drink. What's in your mug
if I coffee? Okay, So I'm having coffee with Kaylee
right now at my house. She's the only with coffee though.
I'm having a daily harvest smoothie. I was wondering about that.
Do you like them? Oh? I love them? Yeah, because
I just it's very quick on the go and speaking
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of just filling my body up with some nutrition, apple, cucumber, cellery, avocado, spinach, tumeric.
But fun fact, I love avocado, hate them in smoothies.
So I removed the avocado before I blend, and I
add some spiar Lena. Yeah that's why it's extra green.
But just for a little extra I don't know, plant
seaweed protein slustration, and I don't know, does something else
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for me? So they say, so, they say, they say,
but right now we're having smoothie and coffee and so
she sat down in the chair and got her headphones
gotten from the mike. She's like, I just love podcasts.
She's not lying, she truly loves podcasts. And what can
people expect if they go listen to coffee with Kaylee, Like,
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what are some favorite sit downs that you've had, or
you doing different seasons or what is your podcast look
right now? I have seasons because I was a new
mom when I started it, and I was terrified that.
I was like, I don't want to start something I
can't finish. We're in the middle of season two. The
episodes range. We've got like people from Caitlin Bristow from
The Bachelor to our pastor who's like, she's incredible. Her
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and her husband lead our church and we talk all
kinds of things. It is a lot. It ends up
being a lot of faith in the heart stuff, just
because that's what I care the most about, more than
like who's listening to the Johnny dept trow even though
I am super interested in but you know what I mean, Like,
I care a lot about like what's going on in
someone's heart in life more than like what's going on
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in the world, because I feel like that's ever changing
and no one ever really knows what's going on in
the world. So yeah, there's all kinds of episodes. What's
about to come out is next week is Brian our friend.
His is incredible, Like he's just such a deep well
as a person, and like his story is so powerful
and he just told it to me one day we
were backstage. He was on tour with us, and he
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was like, did I ever tell you that this one
time I was in church, this pastor like pointed at
me and said this, and and it like changed his
whole life change, like right after that, And I was like,
will you please go on my podcast and tell this story.
So a lot of it is good friends of mine
that I know have really powerful stories to share and
just giving them a place to share them that other
people get to hear him beside me, Well, speaking of
your faith, when did that enter your life? I was
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raised like that. My brother was my youth pastor, went
to church every Sunday, same pew kind of family. It
didn't really become real for me until I was in college.
I was really passionate about it, but I think I
had to know that I knew that I knew that
it was true, and I didn't feel like that until
college and at that point, and then I started working
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for a missions organization out of Dallas, and so I
traveled and did photo video for them, documenting their trips
and the things I saw on the way I saw
God show up and also how I saw like darkness up.
I was like, this is more real than I could
have ever imagined. And there was no going back at
that point. And with Russell, his faith something you'll connected
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on right away. We were friends and he loved Jesus
very unapologetically, not in a weird religious kind of way,
just you could tell he was just a good dude
who went to church. And you know, he's not like
he was perfect, but he was just a good guy
and you could tell. So that made us friends. And
then eventually I was like, wait, why am I not
dating him? Like he's like the best guy I know,
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Like why would I not be with him? So yeah,
that was a huge piece for us. I always wanted
that and whoever I'd build a life with, just because
I think life is hard enough, you know, your relationship
should be the easy part, because at least for us,
like there's so many external things that make life. I
don't want to say hard because many people can look
at our lives like your life isn't hard, because it's
really not. We all if you live in relative yeah,
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like if you live in America, our life is really
not that hard. But there's just a lot of demands.
Will say, like, there's a lot going on that if
our relationship relation and Chip was tumultuous on top of
that would just be impossible. So yeah, it was. It
was super important to both of us. So how did
you arrest get together? Did you just go up to
him and say, why are we not together? I did?
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We did have the are you going to kiss me?
Or not? Moments on the side of a house at
a at a graduation party our junior year, and I
was leaning against them all and everything. I was just
like I might as well had a sign like kiss me,
but he wasn't doing it, and I was like hello,
and then he did and then we started dating a
few months later. It was it was a little like
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are we are we not? Do we do? We want
to not? Like there's a lot at stake here, like
we'll never be friends again? And then how long were
you all together before you got married? We dated a
year and then he broke up with me. Dude, I know,
so rude, but it's fine. It's actually really good. He
had to. But we were so young. I mean we
were twenty two, you know, and he just graduated. He's like,
I'm going to be famous. I'm gonna go travel the world.
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He didn't say all that, but I knew that's what
was going through his head. And I was like, all right,
go ahead, fly Bertie fly, you know. And when he
was crying, and I was like, why are you crying?
Because I knew. I knew that. I knew that, I
knew it was him and if we were gonna get married,
I just knew it. And so when he was doing it,
I was like, all right, well you can go do that.
But he's like, well, we'll be friends, and I was like, like,
hell we will. What I said tuesdays, I was like, no,
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you do not get both. I was like, I'm either
in your life or I'm not. And I took about
a month and he was like okay, yeah, I need
I need you in my life. And I was like okay.
And then we did another year and that's finally when
he was like, oh yeah, you're my wife. And when
he figured that out, my parents happened to be in town.
He bough hering proposed and we were married three months later. Wow,
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like that, just like that, bam bam bam. Yeah, and
so your parents being in town, I assume he asked
my dad traditional southern gentleman asked my mom and dad,
which I thought was sweet. But yeah, we were like,
we weren't living together all that stuff, and so he
was like, I just want to be married to you.
Let's just do this. And I was like all right,
and we still played a wedding. I got a dress
off the rack and that I loved, and got married
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on a Sunday and then we were married. Yeah, I
planned my wedding in eight weeks and yes I had
to order my dress from j Crew dot com bridal stuff.
But this was two thousand six. So I found one that, yeah,
it was not my size, but I had it altered
down and I wanted to change a little bit about it,
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and so I found some inspo and then had the alterations.
Lady just add this black bow that I saw ended
a Bridle magazine, and I thought, oh, well, this will
make it a little bit different and elevate it a
little bit, even though it was Jay Crew has great
dresses anyway, but it was two Wait y'all got married
within eight weeks. Yeah. See that's the way that, can't you.
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I mean, I can't recommend it enough. Well, everybody thought
that I was pregnant me too, but I wasn't and
my sister was though, and that was the problem. I
loved it. I just think it's a stressful season. First
three months or a year or two years, I would
have changed everything. I would have like reserved everything and
then like, yeah, I'm changing at all, so I might
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as well have just done it in three months anyway,
which I did. Yeah, I can't recommend it enough. Do
you have a favorite color just in life in general?
I do you that person? No? No, me neither. I'm
like white. Yes, I do like light blue. But and yellow,
but so we did yellow and gray. Yellow and gray
was like popular at the time. Now I look back,
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I'm like, don't love it. But it's fine, like a
parakeet or something. Yeah, yeah it is. It's Yeah, it
was fine. It was pretty disbased. Everyone was actually in gray,
like I had gray bridesmaid dresses. Yeah, it was fine.
You know I was. We were just poor post college kids.
Like the suits were from um Men's warehouse. They were
a little oversight, like they didn't really fit Russell. Well,
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now that we like do suits, you know, for award
shows and stuff, I'm like, oh, wow, your suit did
not fit you at your wedding, you know, but it's fine.
Like the point where for me was never the wedding
day ever, it was that I want to be married
to him. So I just never really had the pressure
on that day. And I think I had the advantage.
I'm the youngest of six kids, and so I've watched
at this point, I'd watch three of my brothers get married,
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and so I knew. I'm like, it goes so fast.
It's just a day. Like if you're looking forward to
just that day, like that's the day that's going to
fulfill all your fairy tale dreams, you're going to be
gravely disappointed because it's just today. You know, you mentioned
white your favorite color. If you had to pick one,
which what's the aesthetic at your home and how did
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you decide? Y'all need to see Kaylee's home. If you're
not following her on Instagram, you're just at Kaylee Dickerson, right,
and Kaylee's felled like Bailey's and cream but with a
kay Yeah, and your home is beautiful and did you
do all of the design yourself? Yeah, I had help
from our so our contractor that we found his wife
was the daughter of a contractor and married to a contractor,
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and she has very similar taste to me. So she
was like my trains later basically because I've never done
this before. But I would show her what I wanted
and she would be like okay, and then she would
tell her husband like yes, this, this, this and this,
or I wanted like a niche in our shower to
put like the bottles and stuff, and she had a
better idea that she was like, what if we did
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a ledge across the whole thing because our bathtub and
our shower are all in the same wall, so this
one ledge goes all the way across, so it holds
stuff next to the bathtub, but also holds the shampoo
like across the room. So she was incredible. I would
say she definitely helped me a ton, but it's all
very clean, like yeah, White Lighthood. Yeah. We started renovating
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in twenty nineteen, thank god. We felt like we needed
to move out of our old house because you know,
there were gunshots going on and I wanted to have kids,
and I was like, I won't feel safe walking around.
I did love that part of town, but I was like,
I just want somewhere safe to walk. So we really
felt like we were supposed to buy. And it's funny.
Our business manager was like, I'd feel much better if
you if you bought next year, Like I just financially,
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I'd feel better about that. And Rust and I both
were like, we just had this urgency inside of us
that were like, no, we need to do it, and
we need to do it now. And so we found
it May, renovated until December, and moved in December, and
then hosted Christmas like crazy people are, yeah, lunatics, Yeah,
we're lunatics. We love people. Were just like always surrounded
by people, and I think that's why our life is chaotic,
(31:20):
like it's our own doing, you know. And then obviously
the world shut down three months later, and I was like,
thank god we did this. When we did this, because
we never would have bought another house because we stopped
touring and we didn't know what that was going to
look like financially for us, and you're watching your whole
world and everything you've built just like be put on pause.
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And we would have been stuck in that house. And
I found out I was pregnant, and so we did
so many projects in this house because it was a
fixer and we had all the time in the world.
So we were painting a nursery and painting the basement
and doing the stuff that we could do. Because the
wrestles never would have been home either, because you were
going with it. We go together, and and so we
would have had to pay someone to do it. But
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instead we had the time and we weren't sure about
the money, so we just picked up rollers and started
painting our basement. And I say all that to say,
there's still a lot of stuff like I want to
do in our living room, etcetera, Like we have to
rebuild our fireplace because the chimneys kind of leaning. Like
it's a whole thing. It's still a fixer for sure,
But yeah, we love it. We're really grateful. Well, before
you go, I want to end with have you heard
(32:25):
of concrete conversations? Uh? But I'm here for it, Okay.
So it's just a way to create conversation and relationships,
whether it's with friends or they have a specific one
for couples. They have different levels, So level one it
could be for new friends, Level two maybe kind of
know the people. Level three make sure it's your people. Yeah,
(32:47):
because you're sharing intimate things, maybe getting a little vulnerable.
You don't want to face. This is my kind of thing. Yeah,
so I'll pick us. Since we got a lot of
people listening that we don't we don't know, let's go
with a level one. I love it. What is an
impactful book you've read and why? Well, for me, it
is sorry to be so stereotypical, but it is the
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Bible for me. I love it. I mean, I know
it's overwhelming for a lot of people and even for
me to but there's so many life changing things that
I've leaned on in really hard seasons that have given
us like strength in in the hard stuff, Like I
couldn't think of another book that made me survive like
like that one. If someone were to surprise you with
(33:28):
a treat on a hard day, what would hit the spot?
I'm pretty basic. I like like an oat milk latte,
or if Russell wants to take me to alive garden.
Oh yeah, bread sticks, carves, carves, carves, and I actually
love their salad. I could eat that salad no red
onion all day, every day. Perfect. I was about to
ask you earlier, and I forgot your coffee drink since
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you do coffee with Kaylee, And it's just I love
an oat milk Lotte. I drink most of my coffee black.
We like like krema or like nicer like not wine.
We do like nicer wine do, but I also like
box wine. But no, we like nicer beans because then
it's less bitter and so then it doesn't need anything
in it. Oh, I'm gonna have to I don't know
(34:09):
if I've sent you any but I'll have my sister
send you some of her coffee. She has a coffee
shop in Colorado. Lease, I would love it. Yes, I
love And she has a show on HDTV now to
what Yes, it's on every Sunday night at nine eight Central,
and three episodes have aired so far, so there's five
more Sunday's left of the season. It's called Building Roots.
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And just definitely super proud of my sister and the
renovations that she's doing on these homes with her husband.
I feel like I saw you post about this, and
I'm a sucker frate GTV. I love any of any
d I Y kind of show, especially since yes, y'all
are a family. I at d I Y. That's what
you do when you didn't have money to reduce stuff,
you had to, like get crafty and creative. Yes, and
I did. Okay, next question, if you knew you were
(34:53):
going to be shipwrecked alone on an island for only
a week, the coast guard is coming for you, Okay,
don't worry. What three things? What do you want with you? Things?
Not people? I don't know. It's open to your interpretation,
so you could, I guess, have I says alone? Actually
sorry alone? So no people? Okay people? Well, back to Bible.
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I would do that because I don't have enough time
to read it these days. I would love a whole week.
I'm like, I could tear through that whole thing. I couldn't,
but I would love to do that. A back game
and board i'd play against myself. I like that, Gammon,
and probably a hammock so you can enjoy just sitting there. Yes,
I love that answer. The hammock. Okay, if you could
go anywhere in the world, where would it be. I
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love Paris. I've never been. I love Paris. I've only
been once, but it was like walking in like a
romance novel movie. I don't know, I just love that.
Speaking of aesthetic everything, it's like a creamy white with
gray roofs, and the aesthetic of that city is just beautiful.
I love old world kind of cities or Italy for
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some pasta back to the back cars. How many times
can we mentioned cards? I'm here for it. I need
I need to make a four Things back that has carbs,
carbs and more carbs. Oh yeah. Mary is my spaw
partner and she found it the Shop Forward and her
best friend and someone that also works at the Shop
Forward with her, Ashley. On one of her very first
(36:20):
ever four Things totes, she straight up I can't remember
the other three things, but I know one of them
was carbohydrates, and we all thought it was I thought
that was like the cutest thing ever. I roll so hard,
what do you see it? But I'm like, listen, just like,
let the girl like what she likes. You know, Yeah,
I'll give you one last one. What is currently one
of your favorite products? Or gadgets. Oh okay, one of
(36:44):
my favorite products at the moment that I've been telling
all my friends about and they actually are a podcast
sponsor of mine, which but they're not sponsoring this one.
So you know, it's like, actually real is Function of
Beauty hair stuff. What is it called Function of Beauty?
I figured I found it in Target, so like you
can go online and like make a custom for your
shampoo for yourself, but in Target is where I found it,
(37:06):
and you go in and it has shampoo and condition
are based on the texture of your skin, not your skin,
based on the texture of your hair, and then you
buy these little pods for like hair goals. So I
have like wavy, right, my hair is wavy curly esque,
and then there's length and Strengthen there was like UV
protection or like heat protection in these little capsules, so
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you can put three of them in your shampoo and conditioner.
So like you can make your own shampoo for like
what you need. Does that makes sense? So instead of
it being like here's like a heat protecting shampoo, but
it's not for your texture of hair. That makes sense.
So you function of beauty function But if you go online,
that's what I found out when they went I was
already loving it. So I told the people for my podcast.
(37:49):
I was like, hey, I'm loving this if they do partnerships.
And I was telling all my friends. I was like, guys,
it's so fun. You go to Target, like pick out
your little pods and throw it in your shampoo and
mix it and my hair is fell like amazing or since.
So anyway, I was telling everybody and and they sent
me a link and you can actually when you go online,
they print your name on your shampoo bottle. I'll have
a good aesthetic. Like that's really cool. And so now
(38:12):
I just ordered a batch online so it'll say like shampoo, Kley,
shampoo Russell, like they're all like separate in our little shower.
That's so cute. Favorite product at the moment. Personalize anything
is definitely I know, why does it make it so wonderful?
I don't. I guess I think our deep desire to
be known is has to be in there. It's like,
this is for me, I am known. It's made for me. Well,
and I was gonna say that a customize four things
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tote makes such an amazing Mother's Day gift because it does.
But Mother's Day is next Sunday, so if people haven't shopped,
it's too late to customize. But we do have pre
made totes like our life Goals tote that I carry
every single day and it says be kind, choose joy,
work hard, give things, And there are other pre made
options for four Things totes and even little four Things
(38:56):
zipper pouches. But I just want to remind listeners or
share with new listeners. The last few weeks, we've been
sharing that one in every eighty women in Haiti die
from childbirth and pregnancy related causes. So that's why being
able to come alongside and help these new moms and
babies in Haiti with your Mother's Day shopping is just
a win win situation. And our goal is to help
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them buy as many thirty dollar birth kits as possible
for the midwives to use in the rural areas of Haiti.
And it's just crazy to think that something so simple
as only thirty dollars and it's saving lives. And I'm
actually wearing my tight eye cool mom corded pull over
as we speak, and this is something I get compliments
on all the time. It's like a navy and white
(39:40):
tied eye with a pop of me on pink on
the neckline and that's where the coal mom is an embroidery,
which fun fact, it's my handwriting. And we really have
so many gifts that are perfect for the moms in
your life, and everything that is up there is just
quality made. Mary and I put a lot of thought
into everything that's up there, and it give back. And
(40:00):
I'm spending some time on this right now because tomorrow
is the cut off for Mother's Day shopping tomorrow being
Friday at four pm Central if you want guaranteed delivery
and time for Mother's Day, so that way you'll have
it and you can gift it. So shop spot dot
com is the website. E s p w A is
how you spell it, and spaw means hope in Haitian creole.
(40:21):
And just thank you in advance for your support and Kaylee,
thank you so much for coming on. I just want
to encourage people to check out Coffee with Kaylee season two,
the whole season one if people have, and then some
of season two is up and I'm going to be
coming on, so I don't know what season It'll probably
be three, Okay, season three, Yeah, there's not always something
(40:44):
fun to look forward to. I have to figure out
my coffee situation. Hey, well we can have a we
can have a coffee tasting on the figure out how
you like. I'm going to make sure to have coffee
and not a smoothie when I sit down with you
at your house. Well, I always have it ready, Let's
be honest. I always have a pot ready to pour
for whoever comes over. Okay, sounds good. I can't wait
for the band. Check out Coffee with Kaylee. That's the
(41:06):
podcast at Kaylee Dickerson is the Instagram and Russell Dickerson
is the artist that's going on tour, and Kaylee is
the woman by his side that has made a lot
of it happen. So I'm just super honored to call
you friend and so proud to see the success that
y'all are having. You're the best. Thanks for having me