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November 22, 2022 16 min

Welcome to the '5th Thing' with Amy & Kat!! Today’s quote is: "I've learned to hold on to me. My favorite version of myself. Don't lose yours, okay?" - Amy in Holiday Harmony (the Christmas movie that she is comes out on HBO Max in 2 days...eeeeeekkk!!!!) That line isn't exactly what Amy ended up saying in the movie, but that was the original script and we love that it's a reminder to stay true to ourselves....our favorite versions of ourselves!!!!!! This Thursday's 4 Things episode will be a special Thanksgiving episode with Kat joining in a little, along with the writer/producer of Holiday Harmony and the main character...can't wait for y'all to hear that!

Amy heard a woman humming while she peed. It wasn’t like a musical hum…it was like she was peeing and hummmmmming to make it possible since she was in a public restroom. Seemed like she had to hum to pee. Or it was a meditative type thing. Not sure. Also, did you know we aren't supposed to squat to pee?? Squatting over instead of sitting down on the toilet can change the mechanics of urinating; over time that can increase the risk of lowering urinary tract symptoms including pelvic floor dysfunction and infections.

Amy share's an email from a listener that just lost 2 loved ones this year so the grief is super heavy...and she's trying to hold it together for her family & 2-year-old. Amy recommends Megan Devine's grief journal (link below) and Kat shares her thoughts on showing emotion/grieving/crying in front of our kids. 
How to Carry What Can't Be Fixed: A Journal for Grief: 

Thank you licensed therapist, Kat Defatta, for joining us with her wisdom. You can find her on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta + @YouNeedTherapyPodcast.

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