June 25, 2024 • 21 mins
Amy & Kat talk about their life hardships that have now become jokes told around the dinner table…in a good way. Adelyn (Amy’s niece) also shares an embarrassing crisis of her own that she hid from her boyfriend, but she finally told him and now they laugh about it.
In health news, Amy’s worried about her kidney stone because she learned that hot summer weather is horrible for kidney stones. She goes over signs that your kidney stone is about to pass and how to make staying hydrated more fun this summer (which we can all benefit from, whether we have kidney stones or not!)
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—H.G. Wells
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And our quote today is
from HG. Wells And last week, you know, we were
talking about things that are really hard in the moment,
but then you can laugh about them later. And Adelyne,
she's here at my niece, our intern, she found a
really good quote that related to that that we would
be perfect for today's episode, just to kind of circle
(00:28):
back and kind of have something short and sweet that
we'll explain that. And it's the crisis of today is
the joke of tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh, depending on the crisis obvious.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But I do like that, Yeah, I mean something that
comes to mind for me. My body was in such
crisis mode and my home was in such crisis. There
was absolutely nothing funny about this at the moment. And
I think I was laughing about it shortly after because
we shared it on the Bobby Bone Show, and we
talked about here on the podcast because sharing it brought
a little bit of levity. But I still wasn't laughing.
(01:00):
Even though I was laughing, you know what I mean?
But when I walked into my pool with all my
clothes on out of nowhere, I mean, things were heavy
at the moment, but it was like an out of
body experience where I just sort of opened the back
door and slowly walked myself into the pool and sunk
to the bottom. That is screaming, crisis and help all
(01:20):
the things. And now years later we genuinely are laughing
about it, and it's not that the crisis of today
is the joke of tomorrow. And it's literally a twenty
four hour period and you've laughed about it. But it's like,
what is heavy in the moment. Now, hopefully there's some
peace in knowing that later it'll be, you know, a
running joke with your kids, like, yeah, I remember that
(01:41):
time that you walked into the pool with your clothes on,
and you know, we can have a little.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
A little laugh.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm thinking about the things that as a kid were
such a big deal, Like my parents took my door
off of my room because I kept slamming my door.
My dad said, if you slam your door one more time,
and I take it off the hinges. And I was like, yeah,
watch this, and I slimmed it and then.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He walked upstairs with a screwdriver and took it off.
Oh that never happened to me. But good for you.
I think that might be more common. I hope it's
not just me. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I didn't have a door for like a month, and
my parents just laugh about it now because they were like,
we would have put it back on the next day,
but you just never asked, so we were waiting for
you to ask.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But it wasn't funny in the moment.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I or I'm sure you and Patrick y'all have had
your moments like thinking of the bagel and crying. Oh
was that crying at Patrick or being mad at Patrick?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I got mad at him, so I got indirectly mad
at him because when I looked at my bagel with
cream cheese on it, when I wanted a bagel with butter,
he had the one that he wanted, and I was
mad at him because he got to have the bagel
he wanted and I didn't. He asked if I wanted
him to go get me a new one, and I
said no, and I got mad at him that he
didn't know that I actually really wanted him to go.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So hey, yeah, if you're new to listening cats a therapist.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But I had really good introspection later and I apologize.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And she can off of that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now she knows that she was having really strong feelings
about a bagel and it wasn't really Patrick's fault.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And you know what happened is a couple months later,
we went to actually I'm not going to name this
place because I don't want to put them on blast.
We went to a place that make sandwiches. I went there,
got them, brought it back. The sandwich had mayonnaise on it,
and if you know how I feel about mayonnaise, I
start a tear up. And he said, do you want
me to go get you a new sandwich? And I
(03:27):
said yes, I let him. I said what I needed,
I let him go get it. He went and got it.
He brought it back and guess what, It's still had
manaise on it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh yeah, I remember that now, but I learned and
it was yeah, I don't know why they kept messing
that up.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Something that's a little bit more serious that maybe people
could relate to, because there are serious crisis that you
kind of can still laugh at, is we had to
unplug our dad from life support and it was on
April fools.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
He died on April first. And we joke.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Now that if you know we were gonna unplug him,
and he would be like.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Just kidding, I'm just seeing it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
If you'd really do it, I'm doing fine, I'm okay,
and like we joke about it now, but we also
were able to joke about it in the moment, like
that was a crisis of today. That also became the
joke of feeling for us in the hours following, so
it's like the joke of tomorrow. I mean, of course
we missed our dad and we didn't want to have
to do that, but that is a serious crisis and
situation that also some levity came from.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It, which sometimes you need humor to be invited into
things that at the same time are traumatic to allow
you to move through it, ycause things can't be so
hard all time.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Intern Adeline, Oh, I have not given her this nickname
until now. Intern Adeline, my niece. You're saying, you have
a crisis story that just happened recently.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, Well recently, I had borrowed my boyfriend's brand new
baby blue Lulu shorts and I started my period while
I was wearing them.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I remember like leaving and then I realized and I
was like, oh shoot, and then.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I tried like staying, removing them, washing them, nothing came out,
and I was like, oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And this was when I was at my sorority house.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So I faced my mom and I stole a bowl
from the kitchen and I performed surgery on them, and well,
I just soak them. I soaked them all day and
in what a mix of things that my mama told
me to do. But I did it like without in private,
without him knowing, And I was like, he will never
know about this because I felt embarrassed at the time,
and we hadn't been dating for very long, so it's.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Not like, wait when that happened, how long were you dating?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, we've been dating almost like six months and it
was recent, but it still is kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Still kind of new, and so I felt super embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And then I told him about it recently and now
it's something that's funny.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
What was his response, like, how would he have handled it?
Did he say like, oh, you could have told me.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
He just laughed and he was like, yeah, that's embarrassing,
and so he just or.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
He's like I'm uncomfortable. He's like I'm never wearing those again.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No, he didn't say you didn't say that panic.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I would have if that happened. I don't think I've
ever had an experience. Well, I take that back. I
was going to say that something like that's never happened,
but it has. That is something that should not be
as like shameful or embarrassing as it is because it
literally we're.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
All doing it right. But I felt so embarrassed. Oh no,
I get it. Yeah I would. I don't know that
I'd be happy. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And some guys, depending on how they grew up with
periods in their home, like my ex husband, he could
not handle talking about it if that were to have
happened to us.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I don't know. He probably really like freaking, it's never happened.
Were dating.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
He just did not like talking about it. He doesn't
like our I mean, handler seventeen years and it was
just not I was very open about certain things because
we are family.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We would talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And with him he grew up in a home with
a mom and a sister, but it was never discussed.
At least that's his recollection. When anybody was sick, you
just didn't really talk about it. It wasn't like stomach
ish would be sort of like I'm not feeling well,
I'm gonna go lay down.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Interesting. Did he ever buy you tampons or anything? Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That was a struggle. I think that there were times
where he did it. But this is a man that
went to war, right, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like he's the self checkout too.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He's done hard things, but for him to go do
that and he's he's evolved. Yeah, he's had to do
things for our daughter, and he's even said like I
he's like, I don't even know who I am, Like
I have bought I'm buying feminine products at the grocery
for my daughter, which you know, I just don't think
that's something his dad ever would have done, maybe for
(07:36):
his sister. And I'm projecting that on him based on
all the data I know, and I think I would
say I would say that to their face, So I'm
not saying anything bad, and maybe I would be like, yes,
I would have, but I just don't know that ever
would have been even on the table like it was
like his mom would have either figured it out or
just that's just not what he did. And so I
think for Ben, there's just a foreign thing that he
(07:57):
had to you know learn.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm like, look, you are capable.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's making me think of when I went on my
first college visit. My dad took me and I started
my period in the car on the way to the
college that was like hours away, and I panicked because
I'm not going to tell my dad. I felt like
my dad wasn't like that either, So I texted my
mom and my mom called my dad. Then my dad
brought me to a gas station and just was like, dude,
(08:24):
you need to go get anything.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now's the time. And I was like okay.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And so we never talked about it, but like we
knew that I knew that he knew, and he knew
that I knew that he knew. But that's how we
handled it, and that was normal. Yeah, that's like I
feel like, pretty typical. Anyway, that's funny now it wasn't
funny then.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, now that we're in a divorced situation, Insta shares
herself like he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, it's like I would get that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But now, so Cheryl make a grocery list and I
guess she puts it on there and he's like, what
the what what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm like, you're supposed to go buy it, You're supposed
to get them.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, and he's yeah, he's he's done a great job
with that. Did you know that it's officially summer as
of five days ago?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I know it feels like summer way before because school
gets out for kids in May. But according to like
the summer calendar, June twentieth is officially the first day
of summer. Or was, So, we're five days in and
I saw this article about you know, summer is like
swimming season and vacations, swinging, swimming, swimming, swimming.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
You said first of all that you said swinging, and
I was like, where are you going conversation.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yes, and I've never heard that before. You got a
pineapple upside down in your coat, isn't that what that means?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, there's a neighborhood in Franklin that is said to
be like a swinging nigh I think it's probably.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
A rumor, but I don't know pineapples every Yeah, I've
heard that, even like certain retirement communities where there's pineapple
decor maybe they're just older in life.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And interesting or so summer is swinging and swimming season.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't know about the swinging, but it's like there's
all these like things in the summer that you associate
with summer, right this season, these seasons, well it's also
kidney stone season.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
What.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And this only stood out to me because when I
had my full body scan done to just check for
my body. I'm doing endorsements for this place called Craft
Body Scan and here in Nashville, and so a few
months ago I went and got the scan, which brought
me a lot of relief because I've always been a
little bit paranoid with both my parents having cancer that
I don't know if something's going wrong in my body.
(10:49):
But then I don't want to have that negative energy,
so I try to not think it. But then I'm like,
I'm already thinking it. But then I'm like, unthink it,
don't think it. Don't think that'd be cool, Like it's cool,
your body's fine, you're strong, take care of yourself, you're
not your parents.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Epigenetics you know that's a big word. Yeah you like that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, okay, thinks which if anybody is like, what what
is epigenetics, well you should definitely look up the actual
scientific definition. But my version of it in Layman's terms
would be that our genes can change, they can evolve,
they can adapt to how we treat our bodies, things
that we do, our bodies, environment, that our bodies are in,
(11:28):
stress levels that our body has that maybe our parents
didn't have, our grandparents didn't have. And sometimes it's like, oh,
well this is genetic. Well, obviously my hair color, my
eye colors, that's genetic. I can't change that. But there's
other parts of my genes that can absolutely shift.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, shift and change. So do you have a kidney stone?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So, yeah, that's one of the things that showed up
on my body scan. I have a cyst on my
ovary that isn't a concerning size. I don't even feel it.
Maybe it's contributing to some of my period pains being different,
Like I have had little bit more cramps, but I
didn't know if that was also my perimenopause situation or what.
But apparently like anything above four centimeters to ten is
(12:08):
what would be really problematic. Mine is right at four,
so I think it's like four plus like so more
probably like five to ten. So I don't even know
that I'm gonna do anything about that. It'll probably sort
itself out and then my kidney stone. I'm hoping it
sorts itself out.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's in there, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There, and they said the problem is going to be
when it chooses to pass, because it's there. I guess
if it lived the rest of your life to where no,
I mean, I think eventually it would pass and be painful,
or you can go and have it dissolved if it's
something that needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Don't quote me on that exact part. Like the process.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Nobody even close to me, has ever dealt with the
kidney stone, and if they did, they did it in
private and they didn't talk to.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Me about it, like you know some people are with periods.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't know, but here's the reason, and I'm I'm
sharing this because I have one and you may have one,
and it may so that it may start to pop
up because of dehydration.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And that's what happens in the summer months.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's when it starts to get really hot out in
a lot of places, and you're sweating way more and
you may not be drinking adequate amounts of water, and
then that's when the deposits happen, and then you have
painful situations like really painful, which then I was curious
about what are the signs, like, how do I know
that this is my episode? Because what if it's something?
(13:26):
It's time, right, it's time. So signs that your kidney
stone is about to pass. Sharp lower back and side
pain like cramps, blood in your urine, frequent urination, and
pain when you pee, changes in urine color. Fun facts
about kidney stones put together by intern Atlin. The largest
kidney stone ever recorded, which is now the Guinness World Record,
(13:47):
was five inches wide.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No, no, they didn't. They had to take that out surgically.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Once you have a stone, you're more likely to have another.
Sweet Great, that's fun news, se fun fun. I just
know that my time will come when mine has to pass,
or maybe mine is small enough to where it'll.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You might not notice it. Yeah, let's pray for that.
I think you'll notice anything.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Again, I don't know enough about it, and when I
got the results, I didn't like dive into too much research.
I said, is this a concern that I need to
get anything done? They're like, no, you should be okay
for now, and they're like, but if it does choose
to pass, you might be in pain. There's not really
anything that I need to go actively do about it
based on what they saw.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I wonder if it hurts more to be a guy
or a girl with the kidney stone. Also, like, how
do you really know? Because pain tolerances are different too.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But and then some of those side effects too. They
sound like a period a uti. Oh yeah, constantly feeling
you have to pee.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I've only had one or two in my life, and
it was very uncomfortable, Like you just feel like you
constantly have to go to the bathroom. And then you
don't have to go to the bathroom. You're like, make
this pain stop. I want it to go away.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That was uti.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's only one like burned in my memory, and it's
because Ben and I were on a trip. Oh, it
was actually our honeymoon. Noah, that's what I mean by trip.
We were in Mexico on our honeymoon. And there's a
reason why that happens, and I'll let people figure it out.
It's a common thing. I think they call it like
honeymoon itis. Waited, did you make that up?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I know you're talking about saying that from the dome
because I learned about a second from the dome. What
does that mean? Is that like a slang term like from.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
My head, my head from my twenties when it happened
from the dome, I remember, I either talked to my
mom or somebody about.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It, and she's like, oh, I know what you've been doing.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Sorry, I couldn't find where it says if men or
women have more pain, but more men than women have
kidney stones.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
That's a known fact.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And passing the kidney stone is the closest thing a
man will get to experiencing the pain of childbirth.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Ooh oh, and she's had to argue that it's like
getting hit in the that's what they say childbirth is, well,
that's the one thing that's like, no woman will ever
know what it feels like to be hit in the You.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Don't have to be on pain medication when that happens, right,
you don't have to get an epidural.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But I mean, maybe they would prefer that, yes I
knew that I was about to like get that happened
to my parts, then maybe I would be like, yeah,
epidural me up because this is horrible. So that's their
argument of we won't know what that feels like. And
then they won't know what childbirth feels like.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Okay, well, I'd rather know what it likes to be
kicked in the you know what, then to know the
pain of a child coming out of my body.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
But see here's my argument with that, and I've had
neither of them. When you have the pain of childbirth,
you get this reward of a child. When you get
the pain of getting kicked there, what is your reward
or to like, there's no You're not doing it for
anything beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
It's an unfortunate circumstance. It for anything beautiful. That's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You were straddling the fence and fell down onto the
pole and then next thing, you know, I don't know.
I have no idea what it would feel like. All
I know is I kind of feel that in my
body when I see videos if that happen like on
you feel what you body, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like uncomfortable, like pain, like my body like how that hurts.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
When that's That's not how I would describe it exactly.
But when I watch like America's Funniest on videos, my
body like is so uncomfortable watching people have that happen
to them, or when they fall really hard or they're
skateboarding and then they slam their face into you know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, I don't like watching it, like it's like uncomfortable
to watch. But I'm not like, oh I feel the
pain oh.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
My body, like it's uncomfortable in my body. Oh, I
don't like the feelings maybe like body.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Maybe that's like a type of like I don't know
sixth sense that you have, you can feel other people's
physical pain by looking at it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I wish I had other more useful sixth senses. Yeah,
I don't know you what you can really do with
that one?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Well, I thought I would go over ways to stay hydrated,
since the dehydration is what leads to the kidney season.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Why do you keep calling it Sison kidney stone season?
Because the kids still do that? Like remember when s
z N was cool to say season that way?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Like Susan, but I still read it as Yeah, you
still read it as season, right, I thought I was doing.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I was reading a season. It's just a shorter way
to write it, Okay, okay, Susan.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, Adelan is the twenty one year old looking at
me like, what are you talking about? So clearly nobody says, uh,
maybe that's just Ray on the Bobby Bone Show because
he nicknamed himself Susan and I don't know why, so
I blame him. Okay, I'm gonna throw the blame over there.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I'll allow you do that. It's it's not your fault.
It's not my fault.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, it's raise kidney stone season because of the heat
and the dehydration. I'd like to wrap with some ways
to stay hydrated. That isn't that aren't ways like drinking
water because that's sometimes difficult to do. But you can
put things in your water to make it more appealing,
like mint leaves, cucumber slices, lemons, limes give it a fresh,
(19:13):
fun taste. You can eat watermelon, canalope, oranges, anything with
high water content, and you could google high water content
foods and make sure that you're incorporating those. You can
make flavored ice cubes yourself with little ice cube trays
by freezing small berries into the ice cube tray with
(19:35):
water and then when it melts fun.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Fun as much you fruit in my water.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Make a natural fruit juice simply by adding any fruit
to a pitcher of water and let it soak for
a few hours, and then adding electrolyte packets to your
water bottle or your other drinks.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I like the Noon. I think it's un little package.
Oh I thought those are called none. Really none, honestly,
it could be a season.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
None makes sense none, no, none, I don't know. But
I like those ones.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, those are good. Some people like the element the
l T my doctor. I recently bought some from her
that she was selling and I really liked it, and
I just ran out and I got to get it.
But it was like a jar that I was scooping
out of me. And I have no idea what the
brand even was, but she was selling it there and
she was like, I really like this one. Because I
told her some of the other ones I don't feel
(20:26):
that great on them, and I don't know what it is.
She's like, try this one, see if you like it.
The sodium's content like wasn't as high, and yeah, I
really enjoyed it. Obviously, I finished the jar and I
need to go buy some more. So we're giving you
all the tips to live a healthy.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Hydrated, non kidney stone life from the one with the
kidney stone anyway.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Welcome to Medical Minute the cat Where can people find
you on.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Instagram at cat dot Pata and at You Need Therapy Podcasts, and.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I am at Radio Amy And let's see, we're getting
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Speaker 1 (21:09):
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Speaker 2 (21:10):
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And then cats podcasts go up every Monday and Wednesday,
and we hope that you're having the day you need
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Speaker 1 (21:27):
Bye Bye
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And our quote today is
from HG. Wells And last week, you know, we were
talking about things that are really hard in the moment,
but then you can laugh about them later. And Adelyne,
she's here at my niece, our intern, she found a
really good quote that related to that that we would
be perfect for today's episode, just to kind of circle
(00:28):
back and kind of have something short and sweet that
we'll explain that. And it's the crisis of today is
the joke of tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh, depending on the crisis obvious.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But I do like that, Yeah, I mean something that
comes to mind for me. My body was in such
crisis mode and my home was in such crisis. There
was absolutely nothing funny about this at the moment. And
I think I was laughing about it shortly after because
we shared it on the Bobby Bone Show, and we
talked about here on the podcast because sharing it brought
a little bit of levity. But I still wasn't laughing.
(01:00):
Even though I was laughing, you know what I mean?
But when I walked into my pool with all my
clothes on out of nowhere, I mean, things were heavy
at the moment, but it was like an out of
body experience where I just sort of opened the back
door and slowly walked myself into the pool and sunk
to the bottom. That is screaming, crisis and help all
(01:20):
the things. And now years later we genuinely are laughing
about it, and it's not that the crisis of today
is the joke of tomorrow. And it's literally a twenty
four hour period and you've laughed about it. But it's like,
what is heavy in the moment. Now, hopefully there's some
peace in knowing that later it'll be, you know, a
running joke with your kids, like, yeah, I remember that
(01:41):
time that you walked into the pool with your clothes on,
and you know, we can have a little.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
A little laugh.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm thinking about the things that as a kid were
such a big deal, Like my parents took my door
off of my room because I kept slamming my door.
My dad said, if you slam your door one more time,
and I take it off the hinges. And I was like, yeah,
watch this, and I slimmed it and then.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He walked upstairs with a screwdriver and took it off.
Oh that never happened to me. But good for you.
I think that might be more common. I hope it's
not just me. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I didn't have a door for like a month, and
my parents just laugh about it now because they were like,
we would have put it back on the next day,
but you just never asked, so we were waiting for
you to ask.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But it wasn't funny in the moment.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I or I'm sure you and Patrick y'all have had
your moments like thinking of the bagel and crying. Oh
was that crying at Patrick or being mad at Patrick?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I got mad at him, so I got indirectly mad
at him because when I looked at my bagel with
cream cheese on it, when I wanted a bagel with butter,
he had the one that he wanted, and I was
mad at him because he got to have the bagel
he wanted and I didn't. He asked if I wanted
him to go get me a new one, and I
said no, and I got mad at him that he
didn't know that I actually really wanted him to go.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So hey, yeah, if you're new to listening cats a therapist.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But I had really good introspection later and I apologize.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And she can off of that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now she knows that she was having really strong feelings
about a bagel and it wasn't really Patrick's fault.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And you know what happened is a couple months later,
we went to actually I'm not going to name this
place because I don't want to put them on blast.
We went to a place that make sandwiches. I went there,
got them, brought it back. The sandwich had mayonnaise on it,
and if you know how I feel about mayonnaise, I
start a tear up. And he said, do you want
me to go get you a new sandwich? And I
(03:27):
said yes, I let him. I said what I needed,
I let him go get it. He went and got it.
He brought it back and guess what, It's still had
manaise on it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh yeah, I remember that now, but I learned and
it was yeah, I don't know why they kept messing
that up.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Something that's a little bit more serious that maybe people
could relate to, because there are serious crisis that you
kind of can still laugh at, is we had to
unplug our dad from life support and it was on
April fools.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
He died on April first. And we joke.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Now that if you know we were gonna unplug him,
and he would be like.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Just kidding, I'm just seeing it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
If you'd really do it, I'm doing fine, I'm okay,
and like we joke about it now, but we also
were able to joke about it in the moment, like
that was a crisis of today. That also became the
joke of feeling for us in the hours following, so
it's like the joke of tomorrow. I mean, of course
we missed our dad and we didn't want to have
to do that, but that is a serious crisis and
situation that also some levity came from.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It, which sometimes you need humor to be invited into
things that at the same time are traumatic to allow
you to move through it, ycause things can't be so
hard all time.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Intern Adeline, Oh, I have not given her this nickname
until now. Intern Adeline, my niece. You're saying, you have
a crisis story that just happened recently.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, Well recently, I had borrowed my boyfriend's brand new
baby blue Lulu shorts and I started my period while
I was wearing them.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I remember like leaving and then I realized and I
was like, oh shoot, and then.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I tried like staying, removing them, washing them, nothing came out,
and I was like, oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And this was when I was at my sorority house.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
So I faced my mom and I stole a bowl
from the kitchen and I performed surgery on them, and well,
I just soak them. I soaked them all day and
in what a mix of things that my mama told
me to do. But I did it like without in private,
without him knowing, And I was like, he will never
know about this because I felt embarrassed at the time,
and we hadn't been dating for very long, so it's.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Not like, wait when that happened, how long were you dating?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, we've been dating almost like six months and it
was recent, but it still is kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Still kind of new, and so I felt super embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And then I told him about it recently and now
it's something that's funny.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
What was his response, like, how would he have handled it?
Did he say like, oh, you could have told me.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
He just laughed and he was like, yeah, that's embarrassing,
and so he just or.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
He's like I'm uncomfortable. He's like I'm never wearing those again.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No, he didn't say you didn't say that panic.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I would have if that happened. I don't think I've
ever had an experience. Well, I take that back. I
was going to say that something like that's never happened,
but it has. That is something that should not be
as like shameful or embarrassing as it is because it
literally we're.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
All doing it right. But I felt so embarrassed. Oh no,
I get it. Yeah I would. I don't know that
I'd be happy. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And some guys, depending on how they grew up with
periods in their home, like my ex husband, he could
not handle talking about it if that were to have
happened to us.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I don't know. He probably really like freaking, it's never happened.
Were dating.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
He just did not like talking about it. He doesn't
like our I mean, handler seventeen years and it was
just not I was very open about certain things because
we are family.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We would talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And with him he grew up in a home with
a mom and a sister, but it was never discussed.
At least that's his recollection. When anybody was sick, you
just didn't really talk about it. It wasn't like stomach
ish would be sort of like I'm not feeling well,
I'm gonna go lay down.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Interesting. Did he ever buy you tampons or anything? Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That was a struggle. I think that there were times
where he did it. But this is a man that
went to war, right, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like he's the self checkout too.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He's done hard things, but for him to go do
that and he's he's evolved. Yeah, he's had to do
things for our daughter, and he's even said like I
he's like, I don't even know who I am, Like
I have bought I'm buying feminine products at the grocery
for my daughter, which you know, I just don't think
that's something his dad ever would have done, maybe for
(07:36):
his sister. And I'm projecting that on him based on
all the data I know, and I think I would
say I would say that to their face, So I'm
not saying anything bad, and maybe I would be like, yes,
I would have, but I just don't know that ever
would have been even on the table like it was
like his mom would have either figured it out or
just that's just not what he did. And so I
think for Ben, there's just a foreign thing that he
(07:57):
had to you know learn.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm like, look, you are capable.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's making me think of when I went on my
first college visit. My dad took me and I started
my period in the car on the way to the
college that was like hours away, and I panicked because
I'm not going to tell my dad. I felt like
my dad wasn't like that either, So I texted my
mom and my mom called my dad. Then my dad
brought me to a gas station and just was like, dude,
(08:24):
you need to go get anything.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now's the time. And I was like okay.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And so we never talked about it, but like we
knew that I knew that he knew, and he knew
that I knew that he knew. But that's how we
handled it, and that was normal. Yeah, that's like I
feel like, pretty typical. Anyway, that's funny now it wasn't
funny then.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, now that we're in a divorced situation, Insta shares
herself like he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, it's like I would get that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But now, so Cheryl make a grocery list and I
guess she puts it on there and he's like, what
the what what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm like, you're supposed to go buy it, You're supposed
to get them.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, and he's yeah, he's he's done a great job
with that. Did you know that it's officially summer as
of five days ago?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I know it feels like summer way before because school
gets out for kids in May. But according to like
the summer calendar, June twentieth is officially the first day
of summer. Or was, So, we're five days in and
I saw this article about you know, summer is like
swimming season and vacations, swinging, swimming, swimming, swimming.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
You said first of all that you said swinging, and
I was like, where are you going conversation.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yes, and I've never heard that before. You got a
pineapple upside down in your coat, isn't that what that means?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, there's a neighborhood in Franklin that is said to
be like a swinging nigh I think it's probably.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
A rumor, but I don't know pineapples every Yeah, I've
heard that, even like certain retirement communities where there's pineapple
decor maybe they're just older in life.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And interesting or so summer is swinging and swimming season.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't know about the swinging, but it's like there's
all these like things in the summer that you associate
with summer, right this season, these seasons, well it's also
kidney stone season.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
What.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And this only stood out to me because when I
had my full body scan done to just check for
my body. I'm doing endorsements for this place called Craft
Body Scan and here in Nashville, and so a few
months ago I went and got the scan, which brought
me a lot of relief because I've always been a
little bit paranoid with both my parents having cancer that
I don't know if something's going wrong in my body.
(10:49):
But then I don't want to have that negative energy,
so I try to not think it. But then I'm like,
I'm already thinking it. But then I'm like, unthink it,
don't think it. Don't think that'd be cool, Like it's cool,
your body's fine, you're strong, take care of yourself, you're
not your parents.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Epigenetics you know that's a big word. Yeah you like that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, okay, thinks which if anybody is like, what what
is epigenetics, well you should definitely look up the actual
scientific definition. But my version of it in Layman's terms
would be that our genes can change, they can evolve,
they can adapt to how we treat our bodies, things
that we do, our bodies, environment, that our bodies are in,
(11:28):
stress levels that our body has that maybe our parents
didn't have, our grandparents didn't have. And sometimes it's like, oh,
well this is genetic. Well, obviously my hair color, my
eye colors, that's genetic. I can't change that. But there's
other parts of my genes that can absolutely shift.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, shift and change. So do you have a kidney stone?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So, yeah, that's one of the things that showed up
on my body scan. I have a cyst on my
ovary that isn't a concerning size. I don't even feel it.
Maybe it's contributing to some of my period pains being different,
Like I have had little bit more cramps, but I
didn't know if that was also my perimenopause situation or what.
But apparently like anything above four centimeters to ten is
(12:08):
what would be really problematic. Mine is right at four,
so I think it's like four plus like so more
probably like five to ten. So I don't even know
that I'm gonna do anything about that. It'll probably sort
itself out and then my kidney stone. I'm hoping it
sorts itself out.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's in there, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
There, and they said the problem is going to be
when it chooses to pass, because it's there. I guess
if it lived the rest of your life to where no,
I mean, I think eventually it would pass and be painful,
or you can go and have it dissolved if it's
something that needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Don't quote me on that exact part. Like the process.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Nobody even close to me, has ever dealt with the
kidney stone, and if they did, they did it in
private and they didn't talk to.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Me about it, like you know some people are with periods.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't know, but here's the reason, and I'm I'm
sharing this because I have one and you may have one,
and it may so that it may start to pop
up because of dehydration.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And that's what happens in the summer months.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's when it starts to get really hot out in
a lot of places, and you're sweating way more and
you may not be drinking adequate amounts of water, and
then that's when the deposits happen, and then you have
painful situations like really painful, which then I was curious
about what are the signs, like, how do I know
that this is my episode? Because what if it's something?
(13:26):
It's time, right, it's time. So signs that your kidney
stone is about to pass. Sharp lower back and side
pain like cramps, blood in your urine, frequent urination, and
pain when you pee, changes in urine color. Fun facts
about kidney stones put together by intern Atlin. The largest
kidney stone ever recorded, which is now the Guinness World Record,
(13:47):
was five inches wide.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No, no, they didn't. They had to take that out surgically.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Once you have a stone, you're more likely to have another.
Sweet Great, that's fun news, se fun fun. I just
know that my time will come when mine has to pass,
or maybe mine is small enough to where it'll.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You might not notice it. Yeah, let's pray for that.
I think you'll notice anything.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Again, I don't know enough about it, and when I
got the results, I didn't like dive into too much research.
I said, is this a concern that I need to
get anything done? They're like, no, you should be okay
for now, and they're like, but if it does choose
to pass, you might be in pain. There's not really
anything that I need to go actively do about it
based on what they saw.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I wonder if it hurts more to be a guy
or a girl with the kidney stone. Also, like, how
do you really know? Because pain tolerances are different too.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But and then some of those side effects too. They
sound like a period a uti. Oh yeah, constantly feeling
you have to pee.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I've only had one or two in my life, and
it was very uncomfortable, Like you just feel like you
constantly have to go to the bathroom. And then you
don't have to go to the bathroom. You're like, make
this pain stop. I want it to go away.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That was uti.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's only one like burned in my memory, and it's
because Ben and I were on a trip. Oh, it
was actually our honeymoon. Noah, that's what I mean by trip.
We were in Mexico on our honeymoon. And there's a
reason why that happens, and I'll let people figure it out.
It's a common thing. I think they call it like
honeymoon itis. Waited, did you make that up?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I know you're talking about saying that from the dome
because I learned about a second from the dome. What
does that mean? Is that like a slang term like from.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
My head, my head from my twenties when it happened
from the dome, I remember, I either talked to my
mom or somebody about.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It, and she's like, oh, I know what you've been doing.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Sorry, I couldn't find where it says if men or
women have more pain, but more men than women have
kidney stones.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
That's a known fact.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And passing the kidney stone is the closest thing a
man will get to experiencing the pain of childbirth.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Ooh oh, and she's had to argue that it's like
getting hit in the that's what they say childbirth is, well,
that's the one thing that's like, no woman will ever
know what it feels like to be hit in the You.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Don't have to be on pain medication when that happens, right,
you don't have to get an epidural.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But I mean, maybe they would prefer that, yes I
knew that I was about to like get that happened
to my parts, then maybe I would be like, yeah,
epidural me up because this is horrible. So that's their
argument of we won't know what that feels like. And
then they won't know what childbirth feels like.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Okay, well, I'd rather know what it likes to be
kicked in the you know what, then to know the
pain of a child coming out of my body.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
But see here's my argument with that, and I've had
neither of them. When you have the pain of childbirth,
you get this reward of a child. When you get
the pain of getting kicked there, what is your reward
or to like, there's no You're not doing it for
anything beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
It's an unfortunate circumstance. It for anything beautiful. That's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You were straddling the fence and fell down onto the
pole and then next thing, you know, I don't know.
I have no idea what it would feel like. All
I know is I kind of feel that in my
body when I see videos if that happen like on
you feel what you body, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like uncomfortable, like pain, like my body like how that hurts.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
When that's That's not how I would describe it exactly.
But when I watch like America's Funniest on videos, my
body like is so uncomfortable watching people have that happen
to them, or when they fall really hard or they're
skateboarding and then they slam their face into you know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, I don't like watching it, like it's like uncomfortable
to watch. But I'm not like, oh I feel the
pain oh.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
My body, like it's uncomfortable in my body. Oh, I
don't like the feelings maybe like body.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Maybe that's like a type of like I don't know
sixth sense that you have, you can feel other people's
physical pain by looking at it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I wish I had other more useful sixth senses. Yeah,
I don't know you what you can really do with
that one?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Well, I thought I would go over ways to stay hydrated,
since the dehydration is what leads to the kidney season.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Why do you keep calling it Sison kidney stone season?
Because the kids still do that? Like remember when s
z N was cool to say season that way?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Like Susan, but I still read it as Yeah, you
still read it as season, right, I thought I was doing.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I was reading a season. It's just a shorter way
to write it, Okay, okay, Susan.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, Adelan is the twenty one year old looking at
me like, what are you talking about? So clearly nobody says, uh,
maybe that's just Ray on the Bobby Bone Show because
he nicknamed himself Susan and I don't know why, so
I blame him. Okay, I'm gonna throw the blame over there.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I'll allow you do that. It's it's not your fault.
It's not my fault.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, it's raise kidney stone season because of the heat
and the dehydration. I'd like to wrap with some ways
to stay hydrated. That isn't that aren't ways like drinking
water because that's sometimes difficult to do. But you can
put things in your water to make it more appealing,
like mint leaves, cucumber slices, lemons, limes give it a fresh,
(19:13):
fun taste. You can eat watermelon, canalope, oranges, anything with
high water content, and you could google high water content
foods and make sure that you're incorporating those. You can
make flavored ice cubes yourself with little ice cube trays
by freezing small berries into the ice cube tray with
(19:35):
water and then when it melts fun.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Fun as much you fruit in my water.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Make a natural fruit juice simply by adding any fruit
to a pitcher of water and let it soak for
a few hours, and then adding electrolyte packets to your
water bottle or your other drinks.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I like the Noon. I think it's un little package.
Oh I thought those are called none. Really none, honestly,
it could be a season.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
None makes sense none, no, none, I don't know. But
I like those ones.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, those are good. Some people like the element the
l T my doctor. I recently bought some from her
that she was selling and I really liked it, and
I just ran out and I got to get it.
But it was like a jar that I was scooping
out of me. And I have no idea what the
brand even was, but she was selling it there and
she was like, I really like this one. Because I
told her some of the other ones I don't feel
(20:26):
that great on them, and I don't know what it is.
She's like, try this one, see if you like it.
The sodium's content like wasn't as high, and yeah, I
really enjoyed it. Obviously, I finished the jar and I
need to go buy some more. So we're giving you
all the tips to live a healthy.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Hydrated, non kidney stone life from the one with the
kidney stone anyway.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Welcome to Medical Minute the cat Where can people find
you on.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Instagram at cat dot Pata and at You Need Therapy Podcasts, and.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I am at Radio Amy And let's see, we're getting
down to the last of June. On coming up on
Thursday will be in turn Adeline's final four Things episode.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
She's not leaving.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
She'll be here for a lot of July too, so
she'll probably make cameos and come back on. But make
sure you check out Thursday's episode if you want to.
And then cats podcasts go up every Monday and Wednesday,
and we hope that you're having the day you need
to have.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Bye Bye
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