November 26, 2024 • 20 mins
Amy & Kat both share hi/low moments from their lives (and why it’s important for us to bring up the lows) + recipes you need in your life right now + a dash of wisdom for your holiday sanity (you’re allowed to have boundaries even over Thanksgiving & Christmas!) + more!
“When you text your friend: ‘We got this! Knowing damn well we don’t got this and we both need vacation, therapy, a cocktail, and/or a nap!’” - random meme that made Amy laugh (so she made it today’s quote!)
Speaking of needing a cocktail…Kat is bringing it with the best holiday treat recipe. While what she shares is for adults, you could totally make it as a mocktail or do the peppermint rim on a good ‘ol cup of hot chocolate. Recipe is below (along with Amy’s mac & cheese recipe if you need a last minute dish for Thanksgiving!)
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Kat’s ‘Peppermint Espresso Martini’ Recipe:
- 2 parts vodka
- 1 part coffee liquor
- 1 part peppermint mocha creamer
- 4 espresso ice cubes (Kat used Trader Joe’s iced coffee concentrate & poured in an ice cube tray!)
- Mix in blender
- Dip the rim of each glass in melted semi sweet chocolate chips and then immediately dip in crushed candy canes!
Amy’s ‘Alabama Mac & Cheese Yo!’ Recipe:
- 8 oz large elbow macaroni noodles
- 2 tbsp butter
- 1 c half & half
- 1 c milk
- 3 eggs
- 8 oz extra sharp cheddar
- 4-6 oz good parmesan (grated)
- 5 slices American cheese
Preheat the oven 350 degrees. Cook macaroni in salted, boiling water for 8 minutes. Butter iron skillet* and spread 4 oz cheddar on the bottom of the pan. Set aside. Mix half & half, eggs, and milk together in a separate bowl. Butter cooked noodles and mix in parmesan cheese. Layer noodles on top of cheese in an iron skillet. Pour egg mixture over noodles and make sure all are coated. Add slices of American cheese and remaining cheddar on top. Bake at 350 for 30 minutes and then at 400 for 10 minutes. Enjoy!
*Iron skillet is recommended, but totally optional. Can be done in a regular baking dish if that is all you have!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote is more of a meme.
The meme said texting my best friend we got this,
knowing damn well, we don't got this and we both
need a vacation therapy at cocktail and or.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A napp.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Like heyres account appreciate that the hope.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, sometimes you just need some false hope to get
you through.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, it acts as if that everything is okay and
you got it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, that definitely made me laugh. So, speaking of nitting
a cocktail, your peppermint espresso martini situation that you posted
on Instagram this last weekend, we need to know more
about it because it looks so good even if people
don't drink. I feel like with hot cocoa or something,
you could do that candy cane ram and how did
you get it to stick? I need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So the best part was the rem of the glass.
And I think you definitely could do like a version
of a frozen hot chocolate and even make it for
kids or something too. But I just melted chocolate chips,
like somebody sweet chocolate chips. You would beg with melted
them and then just like I don't know how dip
the rib in it? Why could I think of that word?
And then I crushed up in a food process or
(01:17):
candy canes. Really hard to break candy canes into small
pieces with your hands. We tried that didn't work. Crushed
those up, and when the chocolate still melted, you just
dip it in that and then it hardens because the
drink is cold, so then the chocolate gets like hard
to the only thing I would say about this drink
is if you're making it on like a first date
or with somebody that you're not really close with, I
(01:37):
would warn you will have chocolate all over your face.
So I would do it with somebody that you feel
comfortable with, like drinking it, you're gonna have chocolate over.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Your face, but didn't just stay like on your lips.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We were dying laughing because we kept like talking to
each other, and then somebody was like, there's chocolate all
over your teeth or like Patrick had it like all
on like the like a smile, like his smile lines.
I thought it was funny, But if you're trying to
be cute around somebody, I might not dip the rim
of my glass and chocolate.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Not very cute.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
See it's just a little messy.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, it looked. It was soy it made me want
to make it AOA. But I mean, even if you're
not again a martini drinker, you could still make a
fun little drink out of that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I need to post the recipe because I posted that
picture of it and like twenty people were like, why
would you post this without giving us the recipe.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, I can put the recipe in the show notes
too if people want to go find that, and then
you'll have it posted on your page.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was jealous of it, and I had a really
good weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well so that was well, that wasn't the high of
my weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Do you want to do high?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
High? Low?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, Well you can think of something low, Okay, surely.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Ankay, I'll think of my low when what's your high?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay? My high is I took a little trip with
someone and it was fun. So that's my high, and
then my low would be gosh, I don't know that
I have. It's tired, u's hard, but I make my
kids do this only so that way you appreciate the
highs more and then also when we're around the table,
(03:10):
I used to not care if they came up with
the low, but now I like for them to come
up with a low so that we can also problem solve,
because what if they're low is something we can talk through.
Oh so maybe this is more of just a kid thing. Well,
we can't really come up with anything that I need
you to talk through.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, my low that I'm thinking is like doing the dishes. Okay,
that wasn't fun. You and Patrick.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Also this weekend, y'all came up with some movie lists,
like you're gonna watch all of those Christmas movies?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You think, Well, the reason we did that is because
two years ago we watched a Christmas movie like every
single night, but last year we kept like putting it off,
and so we watched like three Christmas movies. So last
night we wrote down all the movies that we have
a goal. We might not get to all of them,
but our goal is to get to all of those,
and we checked two off us night, so we're on
(03:58):
our way.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I mean, there are a lot of movies on the
funny you send it to me and you're like, hey,
if you want to join us, I was like, that's impossible, Like,
I don't even know how that would even happen, especially
with y'all are including any of the new Hallmark type
movies on.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I've already watched them.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh they're so good.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well, I watched Married Gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh I watched that Dad Michael Murray.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, that reminded of my childhood. I used to have
his poster posted in my closet in my room.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That was cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. I just
love those Christmas type movies. Yeah, they're my jam So
I'm just glad you and Patrick are going to do
that together. I think that's something fun. And you work
on your puzzles and you have hot chocolate, hot chocolate,
and you have your little peppermint rim and all the things,
and I just feel like, yeah, y'all are definitely in
the Christmas spirit, you know, with Thanksgiving being in a
(04:48):
couple of days. I just want to remind people that
your needs matter. And I think sometimes people when they
gather together with their family, they feel really s or
they feel like they have to cater to kind of
the higher energy in the home. And I'm basing this
off of something that a friend was telling me about
their family situation how they like literally just don't want
(05:11):
to be there, and I was thinking, oh, man, that's
such a bummer because I would give anything to be
with my family, you know, but not everybody's family situation
is the same. But she literally said to me like, no,
I just don't even care. I don't want to go.
And I thought, Okay, what if there's a compromise here,
because I know that she cares about her family, like
(05:32):
she could go, but maybe she doesn't have to go
all day and she could just set a boundary with that,
and if someone is really dominating and she wants to
speak up, like maybe she could find a way to
make room for things she likes to talk about as well.
I think it's just she feels really small and it's
not worth it, and it's like zero fun.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think a lot of the holidays there's feelings of
expectations of what other people want and expect of you.
And I like this too because it's talking about I
get to be in charge of what conversations I want
to engage in if I am going to my family's
house or somebody's house for a holiday. If I don't
want to engage in one of these conversations, I'm allowed
to walk away from that. If I don't want to
(06:15):
sit by this person at dinner, I'm allowed to sit
somewhere else. If I don't want to go to this
person's house for Thanksgiving or whatever meal, I don't have
to go if these people are not treating me the
way that I would want to treat the people in
my life. Because I think a lot of the stuff
that I've experienced or heard in the past, like years past,
is how do you just like grin and bear it
(06:35):
versus how do you stand up for yourself? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
On last Thursday's Four Things episode, one of the things
I talked about was just learning how to know what
you need to say yes to and know too is
decluttering your calendar, especially around the holiday season, because there
can be so many things and if it's not absolutely
yes something you want to do now, there is a
little asterisk there to that, And that's we can make
(06:59):
sacrifice for family and friends that we care about. Do
we absolutely want to go or is it something that
we need to get one of our kids too? But
can we look at how long we're gonna go, Like
maybe it's a three hour event. Can you go for
an hour or can you just stop in and then
say hi, Hey, I don't have long just wanted to
come by and show support, or be here and say
(07:21):
hi and hug your neck and you can still mean
well and be kind, but you don't have to stay
the entire party or the entire event.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's I'm thinking in my head as you're saying that,
instead of it being like an absolutely yes or an
absolutely no, it might be a fifty percent. So how
would I give fifty percent to that event? I'm just
gonna stop by, or I'm gonna send flowers since I
can't go, or I'm gonna bring my kids, but I'm
not gonna go something like that versus it being so
black and white.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And we're just gonna drop your kids off and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Be like, I gotta go somewhere else some we're coolers.
My kids.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
This count is babysitting, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It was like some kind of like family friends thing.
I don't have kids came out of my mouth.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I really need some peace and quiet. So I'm just
gonna go and drop the kids off, and I'm gonna
go take a bathroom.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I don't want to come to this party with my kids?
Did so I'm going to bring them in leap.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You're providing dinner, right, snacks, cookies? Can I get it
to go plate?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I mean those are just four simple things. But I
think that sometimes we need these reminders of little ways
that maybe we've forgotten our power, and then as you
start to reclaim some of it, you can live a
more fulfilling life.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I have a question, what's something in the next year
that you want to do more of travel?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But I said the last year.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, well maybe you can be more proactive about that, right, Like,
how do you want to live your life differently in
the next year? How do you want to start? So travel,
you already started. You just went on a trip I did,
so you got a head.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Start and where I had never been before.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Okay, not just like the comfortable, easy this is what
I do. This is my routine of traveling. This is
a new thing that I went experienced.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Right, And it was sort of quick, less than forty
eight hours, but still it was like beautiful and fun
experiencing something new, which that's what I want. It wasn't
that far away, like it doesn't have to be travel,
you know, all the way around the world. Although you know,
I do want to go to Paris and you went
to Italy. I would like to go there. My sister
is going to Spain and the spring because my niece
(09:26):
is going to be studying abroad there for college. She's
doing her Spanish credits in Spain. So I would love
to do that, but I don't think I can get
off work during that time. But I've always wanted to
go to Spain. I've wanted to go to Alaska. I
want to go to Montana, Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Like I have a list, but I am a list, Like.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
If I ever go anywhere, then it's really hard to
check things off.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, when you start, just start make the list. Maybe
make an actual physical list, because I think this list
is living in your head.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It is and I just need to be proctic. But
maybe some of us just like going with the right
person or making sure that, yeah, my kids wanted to go,
that they could go with me. Like I'll be traveling
for Christmas and going to Colorado to see my sister. Yeah,
I always go to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And you love that. I love you. That's your go
to I want to see more.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm not gonna be able to explore the world if
I just go to Colorado or stay home or New
York or New York.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Ye know, there a lot too, But I love I
don't want to go to New York.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I love going with you and like it's just New
York is fun. So I would do that again, but
I just need to prioritize checking some places off my
list that I want to see in person because I've
heard from other people that they are beautiful. If I
want to take it all in, I want to eat
the food. I want to be a part of the culture.
I guess it's depending on you know. Pla is on
(10:48):
that list. Yeah, I don't really know what I'm eating
in Montana, but I just want that's for scenery, right,
Like some things on my list are for scenery and
taking it all in. Other places on my list are
for that too, but also the food.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what. Yeah, Montana, I think
their food.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Might be probably just bison. Why did I think about
that too, because that's where you see a lot of
like wild game walking around, and that's what I see
on TV. I don't know, we've never been.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, Okay, they're not the culinary capital of the United States.
We should google real quick, like what food is Tannin's.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Montana is known for its food that's rooted in the
state's natural resources and ranching heritage, including huckleberries. That's their
official fruit beef. It's the ideal area for raising cattle, obviously.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What's a huckleberry? Tastes like these are.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Wild berries that are used in many dishes, including jams
and pies. Okay here I know. Game meats like bison, elk, benison.
Those are staples of Montana cuisine. Trout a common ingredient
in Montana cooking, steak and potatoes. Flathead cherries ooh interesting,
(12:14):
and rocky mountain oysters no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I will eat a fried oyster I'm not eating.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't want either. Now, so many other things I
would rather eat.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What are choke cherries? I wonder if that's the same
thing as a flathead cherry.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I want to know what a flathead cherry is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I just google imaged. It looks like a cherry.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Maybe it's the same cherries we've been eating all along,
and they all just come from Montana.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The ones in my grocery store are from Montana because
they look just like that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Little did we know we've been eating flathead cherries.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, you learn something new every day here. Okay, so
Montana cuisine. I could get on board with that. But also, yeah,
like I was really really jealous of all your food
situations you just had in Italy.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It was the best food of my life.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What are you most looking forward to for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Food wise? So that's the problem. I don't love Thanksgiving food.
Is that weird? No?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
My kids don't like it. They're from Haiti. That's why
I feel like, if you grew up in America, there's
something a Thanksgiving you're looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It's just not my favorite meal. I think what I'm
looking forward to the most is bread of roll, some
butter I make homemade. It's making homemade sour rolls there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Then, yes, sour doak bread. I could get on monkey bread.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah. And then I'm looking forward to what I'm bringing,
which is a carrot cake, cream cheese icing homemade.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Are you putting nuts in it?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
No? Because our neighbor is allergic to nuts and I
don't really love nuts in my caro cake. Stop looking
at me like this is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
No, I like carrot cake, but not with nuts. So
I'm glad that your neighbor's allergic, because otherwise.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Would you want me to bring you a piece off
there's leftovers? Yeah, it's the best recipe ever.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, I might stop by anyways.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, I don't know. You can also make you a peppermint.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Are you gonna make them for the whole fam?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I bought like cups to bring to my parents, so
I can make the glasses and not ruin my mom's cups.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I might stop by just for that, because I
swear when you post that picture, I was like, I'm this.
I want to drink it through the Instagram.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's very good.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Or however, fancy you should do the whole recipe and
put that on TikTok. I bet people would like it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's a lot of work, is it?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Usually take that image and then type the recipe on
top and then put it on.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
But I have to make a video I record myself
making can't you record?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Can't you on TikTok? You can't you just use the
image that oh do people do that? Asking me what
people do on TikTok? Here, I am trying to tell
you what to upload to TikTok. I just thought that
might be something that would get shared a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Maybe so yummy, Maybe I can do a cute video
on Thanksgiving of me making it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We'll see what it ends up being, and then use that, yeah,
and share it because I feel like that's something a
lot of people would make around the holidays.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well. To be fair, I stole the idea of it
from a video I saw on TikTok on Instagram about it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You're like, to be fair. Everything you're saying right now,
so you're saying there's a chance. Okay, Yeah, so it
might be good. I'm most looking forward to, I don't
know yet, mac and cheese, probably my Alabama mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yo, what's the other thing?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You have?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The gravy and the icing? Cinnamon rolls and gravy.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's Christmas Morning for tradition, it's sinnamon rolls and sausage gravy.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You no icing?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Bake? You know it has icing? Yeah, you do the
cinnamon roll just like you did. It's like if you
got Pillsbury dough boy. My dad would always make the
Pioneer Woman's homemade recipe for cinnamon rolls. But if you
don't want to deal with the labor involved in that.
You can just get the ones from the grocery store,
bake them up, put the icing on, and then you
whip up a white gravy with Jimmy Dean's spicy sausage,
(15:54):
very specific, and get that going. However you do your gravy,
can also just google it and then you scoop it
on top and it's this salty sweet situation that is glorious.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But you won't have that Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, I will have your Christmas morning.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Have the macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I probably will make that, depending on where I go
and what I do. I don't have the kids this Thanksgiving,
as you know. I had them last year and we traveled. Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I was going to say, you did go to Hawaii with.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
My Colorado family because my nephew is going to the
University of Honolulu, and so my sister said, for Thanksgiving,
we're going to go visit him. Y'all should come. So
I loaded up the kids and we went check we
had the local Hawaiian cuisine. Yeah, we went to a
hauibachi restaurant.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's the local.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I mean, they could have had the same hivachi here,
but it was so fun, like we just I love haibachi.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
What do they eat for Thanksgiving? There?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We didn't do like at the Thanksgiving we went to
a lul oh and so it was you know, pig
with a roasted pig something. Yeah, pork. It wasn't really
my thing at all, but the luau is impressive, like
the different fire and all the things that they do.
That's what we did last year. So this year traditional meal,
which I don't know for sure exactly what I'm going
(17:15):
to be doing, but wherever I go, whatever I do,
I'll be taking Alabama mac and cheese yo, which I
can put that recipe in the show notes for people.
So we've got a peppermint espresso martini. Y'all can go
check out. You just go wherever the episode is, Like
there's the title and then there's show notes and you
can go over there screenshot the recipe. Bam, you've got it.
And then also the mac and cheese in case you're
(17:37):
looking for like a last minute thing to make. The
mac and cheese is always a hit. And oh it's
a part of Actually it's inside our four Things Gratitude Journal,
which there's a code if you are wanting to get
ahead of Christmas shopping and thanksgivings all about gratitude. We
have these adorable Four Things gratitudejournals and there's two different
(18:01):
cover options, so you can choose which color combo you
want or if you're getting multiple. This is the person
we've ever done a code, and the proceeds are going
to Haiti. All the proceeds do so the code is
Amy twenty. But it's not like it's making me anything,
but that'll save you twenty percent and then you'll support
education in Haiti through the journals or anything on the
(18:24):
four Things, Like you can just go anything that benefits Haiti.
The code Amy twenty should work. And we're just trying
to help people out with the holidays and Christmas gifts
because I feel like prices everywhere are just really high,
but people still want to give back, and it's just
a way you can do that such a little added
discount that'll also support something that's very near and dear
(18:48):
to my heart. And there's a lot of really cute
four Things gift items or even like cool mom, cool
dad stuff born your things, So I'll link all that
in the show notes as well. In the addition that's
up right now, there's a couple of recipes, and then
there's also stickers in the back and on each page
there's a quote for inspiration. So it's something for yourself
(19:10):
if you're wanting to get into gratitude or something that
would be a really good gift, Like you could probably
buy five of them and then boom, you've got five
gifts for maybe like girlfriends in your life, for kids,
or if.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're going to a favorite Things party, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Could take that, or like a there's four things pullovers
and tots and zipper pouches and stuff like that. So again,
all that will be linked in the show notes and
Kat and I hope you're having the day that you
need to have, Cat, Where can people find.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You on Instagram at at Kat van Buren.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And I am at Radio Amy Happy Thanksgiving, sing Happy Things.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Got a song to you, Happy Thing, that's happy Birthday.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
That was like last Tuesday when we were singing, because
we recorded a whole thing and then I singing will
make you happy, decrease stressing and get rid of anger. Yeah,
so there you go, Bye bye
Speaker 2 (20:10):
M HM.
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote is more of a meme.
The meme said texting my best friend we got this,
knowing damn well, we don't got this and we both
need a vacation therapy at cocktail and or.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A napp.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Like heyres account appreciate that the hope.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, sometimes you just need some false hope to get
you through.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, it acts as if that everything is okay and
you got it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, that definitely made me laugh. So, speaking of nitting
a cocktail, your peppermint espresso martini situation that you posted
on Instagram this last weekend, we need to know more
about it because it looks so good even if people
don't drink. I feel like with hot cocoa or something,
you could do that candy cane ram and how did
you get it to stick? I need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So the best part was the rem of the glass.
And I think you definitely could do like a version
of a frozen hot chocolate and even make it for
kids or something too. But I just melted chocolate chips,
like somebody sweet chocolate chips. You would beg with melted
them and then just like I don't know how dip
the rib in it? Why could I think of that word?
And then I crushed up in a food process or
(01:17):
candy canes. Really hard to break candy canes into small
pieces with your hands. We tried that didn't work. Crushed
those up, and when the chocolate still melted, you just
dip it in that and then it hardens because the
drink is cold, so then the chocolate gets like hard
to the only thing I would say about this drink
is if you're making it on like a first date
or with somebody that you're not really close with, I
(01:37):
would warn you will have chocolate all over your face.
So I would do it with somebody that you feel
comfortable with, like drinking it, you're gonna have chocolate over.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Your face, but didn't just stay like on your lips.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We were dying laughing because we kept like talking to
each other, and then somebody was like, there's chocolate all
over your teeth or like Patrick had it like all
on like the like a smile, like his smile lines.
I thought it was funny, But if you're trying to
be cute around somebody, I might not dip the rim
of my glass and chocolate.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Not very cute.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
See it's just a little messy.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, it looked. It was soy it made me want
to make it AOA. But I mean, even if you're
not again a martini drinker, you could still make a
fun little drink out of that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I need to post the recipe because I posted that
picture of it and like twenty people were like, why
would you post this without giving us the recipe.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, I can put the recipe in the show notes
too if people want to go find that, and then
you'll have it posted on your page.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was jealous of it, and I had a really
good weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well so that was well, that wasn't the high of
my weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Do you want to do high?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
High? Low?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, Well you can think of something low, Okay, surely.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Ankay, I'll think of my low when what's your high?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay? My high is I took a little trip with
someone and it was fun. So that's my high, and
then my low would be gosh, I don't know that
I have. It's tired, u's hard, but I make my
kids do this only so that way you appreciate the
highs more and then also when we're around the table,
(03:10):
I used to not care if they came up with
the low, but now I like for them to come
up with a low so that we can also problem solve,
because what if they're low is something we can talk through.
Oh so maybe this is more of just a kid thing. Well,
we can't really come up with anything that I need
you to talk through.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, my low that I'm thinking is like doing the dishes. Okay,
that wasn't fun. You and Patrick.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Also this weekend, y'all came up with some movie lists,
like you're gonna watch all of those Christmas movies?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You think, Well, the reason we did that is because
two years ago we watched a Christmas movie like every
single night, but last year we kept like putting it off,
and so we watched like three Christmas movies. So last
night we wrote down all the movies that we have
a goal. We might not get to all of them,
but our goal is to get to all of those,
and we checked two off us night, so we're on
(03:58):
our way.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I mean, there are a lot of movies on the
funny you send it to me and you're like, hey,
if you want to join us, I was like, that's impossible, Like,
I don't even know how that would even happen, especially
with y'all are including any of the new Hallmark type
movies on.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I've already watched them.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh they're so good.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well, I watched Married Gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh I watched that Dad Michael Murray.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, that reminded of my childhood. I used to have
his poster posted in my closet in my room.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That was cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. I just
love those Christmas type movies. Yeah, they're my jam So
I'm just glad you and Patrick are going to do
that together. I think that's something fun. And you work
on your puzzles and you have hot chocolate, hot chocolate,
and you have your little peppermint rim and all the things,
and I just feel like, yeah, y'all are definitely in
the Christmas spirit, you know, with Thanksgiving being in a
(04:48):
couple of days. I just want to remind people that
your needs matter. And I think sometimes people when they
gather together with their family, they feel really s or
they feel like they have to cater to kind of
the higher energy in the home. And I'm basing this
off of something that a friend was telling me about
their family situation how they like literally just don't want
(05:11):
to be there, and I was thinking, oh, man, that's
such a bummer because I would give anything to be
with my family, you know, but not everybody's family situation
is the same. But she literally said to me like, no,
I just don't even care. I don't want to go.
And I thought, Okay, what if there's a compromise here,
because I know that she cares about her family, like
(05:32):
she could go, but maybe she doesn't have to go
all day and she could just set a boundary with that,
and if someone is really dominating and she wants to
speak up, like maybe she could find a way to
make room for things she likes to talk about as well.
I think it's just she feels really small and it's
not worth it, and it's like zero fun.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think a lot of the holidays there's feelings of
expectations of what other people want and expect of you.
And I like this too because it's talking about I
get to be in charge of what conversations I want
to engage in if I am going to my family's
house or somebody's house for a holiday. If I don't
want to engage in one of these conversations, I'm allowed
to walk away from that. If I don't want to
(06:15):
sit by this person at dinner, I'm allowed to sit
somewhere else. If I don't want to go to this
person's house for Thanksgiving or whatever meal, I don't have
to go if these people are not treating me the
way that I would want to treat the people in
my life. Because I think a lot of the stuff
that I've experienced or heard in the past, like years past,
is how do you just like grin and bear it
(06:35):
versus how do you stand up for yourself? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
On last Thursday's Four Things episode, one of the things
I talked about was just learning how to know what
you need to say yes to and know too is
decluttering your calendar, especially around the holiday season, because there
can be so many things and if it's not absolutely
yes something you want to do now, there is a
little asterisk there to that, And that's we can make
(06:59):
sacrifice for family and friends that we care about. Do
we absolutely want to go or is it something that
we need to get one of our kids too? But
can we look at how long we're gonna go, Like
maybe it's a three hour event. Can you go for
an hour or can you just stop in and then
say hi, Hey, I don't have long just wanted to
come by and show support, or be here and say
(07:21):
hi and hug your neck and you can still mean
well and be kind, but you don't have to stay
the entire party or the entire event.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's I'm thinking in my head as you're saying that,
instead of it being like an absolutely yes or an
absolutely no, it might be a fifty percent. So how
would I give fifty percent to that event? I'm just
gonna stop by, or I'm gonna send flowers since I
can't go, or I'm gonna bring my kids, but I'm
not gonna go something like that versus it being so
black and white.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And we're just gonna drop your kids off and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Be like, I gotta go somewhere else some we're coolers.
My kids.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
This count is babysitting, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It was like some kind of like family friends thing.
I don't have kids came out of my mouth.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I really need some peace and quiet. So I'm just
gonna go and drop the kids off, and I'm gonna
go take a bathroom.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I don't want to come to this party with my kids?
Did so I'm going to bring them in leap.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You're providing dinner, right, snacks, cookies? Can I get it
to go plate?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I mean those are just four simple things. But I
think that sometimes we need these reminders of little ways
that maybe we've forgotten our power, and then as you
start to reclaim some of it, you can live a
more fulfilling life.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I have a question, what's something in the next year
that you want to do more of travel?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But I said the last year.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, well maybe you can be more proactive about that, right, Like,
how do you want to live your life differently in
the next year? How do you want to start? So travel,
you already started. You just went on a trip I did,
so you got a head.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Start and where I had never been before.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Okay, not just like the comfortable, easy this is what
I do. This is my routine of traveling. This is
a new thing that I went experienced.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Right, And it was sort of quick, less than forty
eight hours, but still it was like beautiful and fun
experiencing something new, which that's what I want. It wasn't
that far away, like it doesn't have to be travel,
you know, all the way around the world. Although you know,
I do want to go to Paris and you went
to Italy. I would like to go there. My sister
is going to Spain and the spring because my niece
(09:26):
is going to be studying abroad there for college. She's
doing her Spanish credits in Spain. So I would love
to do that, but I don't think I can get
off work during that time. But I've always wanted to
go to Spain. I've wanted to go to Alaska. I
want to go to Montana, Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Like I have a list, but I am a list, Like.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
If I ever go anywhere, then it's really hard to
check things off.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, when you start, just start make the list. Maybe
make an actual physical list, because I think this list
is living in your head.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It is and I just need to be proctic. But
maybe some of us just like going with the right
person or making sure that, yeah, my kids wanted to go,
that they could go with me. Like I'll be traveling
for Christmas and going to Colorado to see my sister. Yeah,
I always go to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And you love that. I love you. That's your go
to I want to see more.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm not gonna be able to explore the world if
I just go to Colorado or stay home or New
York or New York.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Ye know, there a lot too, But I love I
don't want to go to New York.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I love going with you and like it's just New
York is fun. So I would do that again, but
I just need to prioritize checking some places off my
list that I want to see in person because I've
heard from other people that they are beautiful. If I
want to take it all in, I want to eat
the food. I want to be a part of the culture.
I guess it's depending on you know. Pla is on
(10:48):
that list. Yeah, I don't really know what I'm eating
in Montana, but I just want that's for scenery, right,
Like some things on my list are for scenery and
taking it all in. Other places on my list are
for that too, but also the food.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what. Yeah, Montana, I think
their food.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Might be probably just bison. Why did I think about
that too, because that's where you see a lot of
like wild game walking around, and that's what I see
on TV. I don't know, we've never been.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, Okay, they're not the culinary capital of the United States.
We should google real quick, like what food is Tannin's.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Montana is known for its food that's rooted in the
state's natural resources and ranching heritage, including huckleberries. That's their
official fruit beef. It's the ideal area for raising cattle, obviously.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What's a huckleberry? Tastes like these are.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Wild berries that are used in many dishes, including jams
and pies. Okay here I know. Game meats like bison, elk, benison.
Those are staples of Montana cuisine. Trout a common ingredient
in Montana cooking, steak and potatoes. Flathead cherries ooh interesting,
(12:14):
and rocky mountain oysters no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I will eat a fried oyster I'm not eating.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't want either. Now, so many other things I
would rather eat.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What are choke cherries? I wonder if that's the same
thing as a flathead cherry.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I want to know what a flathead cherry is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I just google imaged. It looks like a cherry.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Maybe it's the same cherries we've been eating all along,
and they all just come from Montana.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The ones in my grocery store are from Montana because
they look just like that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Little did we know we've been eating flathead cherries.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, you learn something new every day here. Okay, so
Montana cuisine. I could get on board with that. But also, yeah,
like I was really really jealous of all your food
situations you just had in Italy.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It was the best food of my life.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What are you most looking forward to for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Food wise? So that's the problem. I don't love Thanksgiving food.
Is that weird? No?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
My kids don't like it. They're from Haiti. That's why
I feel like, if you grew up in America, there's
something a Thanksgiving you're looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It's just not my favorite meal. I think what I'm
looking forward to the most is bread of roll, some
butter I make homemade. It's making homemade sour rolls there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Then, yes, sour doak bread. I could get on monkey bread.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah. And then I'm looking forward to what I'm bringing,
which is a carrot cake, cream cheese icing homemade.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Are you putting nuts in it?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
No? Because our neighbor is allergic to nuts and I
don't really love nuts in my caro cake. Stop looking
at me like this is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
No, I like carrot cake, but not with nuts. So
I'm glad that your neighbor's allergic, because otherwise.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Would you want me to bring you a piece off
there's leftovers? Yeah, it's the best recipe ever.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, I might stop by anyways.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, I don't know. You can also make you a peppermint.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Are you gonna make them for the whole fam?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I bought like cups to bring to my parents, so
I can make the glasses and not ruin my mom's cups.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I might stop by just for that, because I
swear when you post that picture, I was like, I'm this.
I want to drink it through the Instagram.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's very good.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Or however, fancy you should do the whole recipe and
put that on TikTok. I bet people would like it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's a lot of work, is it?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Usually take that image and then type the recipe on
top and then put it on.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
But I have to make a video I record myself
making can't you record?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Can't you on TikTok? You can't you just use the
image that oh do people do that? Asking me what
people do on TikTok? Here, I am trying to tell
you what to upload to TikTok. I just thought that
might be something that would get shared a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Maybe so yummy, Maybe I can do a cute video
on Thanksgiving of me making it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We'll see what it ends up being, and then use that, yeah,
and share it because I feel like that's something a
lot of people would make around the holidays.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well. To be fair, I stole the idea of it
from a video I saw on TikTok on Instagram about it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You're like, to be fair. Everything you're saying right now,
so you're saying there's a chance. Okay, Yeah, so it
might be good. I'm most looking forward to, I don't
know yet, mac and cheese, probably my Alabama mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yo, what's the other thing?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You have?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The gravy and the icing? Cinnamon rolls and gravy.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's Christmas Morning for tradition, it's sinnamon rolls and sausage gravy.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You no icing?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Bake? You know it has icing? Yeah, you do the
cinnamon roll just like you did. It's like if you
got Pillsbury dough boy. My dad would always make the
Pioneer Woman's homemade recipe for cinnamon rolls. But if you
don't want to deal with the labor involved in that.
You can just get the ones from the grocery store,
bake them up, put the icing on, and then you
whip up a white gravy with Jimmy Dean's spicy sausage,
(15:54):
very specific, and get that going. However you do your gravy,
can also just google it and then you scoop it
on top and it's this salty sweet situation that is glorious.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But you won't have that Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, I will have your Christmas morning.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Have the macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I probably will make that, depending on where I go
and what I do. I don't have the kids this Thanksgiving,
as you know. I had them last year and we traveled. Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I was going to say, you did go to Hawaii with.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
My Colorado family because my nephew is going to the
University of Honolulu, and so my sister said, for Thanksgiving,
we're going to go visit him. Y'all should come. So
I loaded up the kids and we went check we
had the local Hawaiian cuisine. Yeah, we went to a
hauibachi restaurant.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's the local.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I mean, they could have had the same hivachi here,
but it was so fun, like we just I love haibachi.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
What do they eat for Thanksgiving? There?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We didn't do like at the Thanksgiving we went to
a lul oh and so it was you know, pig
with a roasted pig something. Yeah, pork. It wasn't really
my thing at all, but the luau is impressive, like
the different fire and all the things that they do.
That's what we did last year. So this year traditional meal,
which I don't know for sure exactly what I'm going
(17:15):
to be doing, but wherever I go, whatever I do,
I'll be taking Alabama mac and cheese yo, which I
can put that recipe in the show notes for people.
So we've got a peppermint espresso martini. Y'all can go
check out. You just go wherever the episode is, Like
there's the title and then there's show notes and you
can go over there screenshot the recipe. Bam, you've got it.
And then also the mac and cheese in case you're
(17:37):
looking for like a last minute thing to make. The
mac and cheese is always a hit. And oh it's
a part of Actually it's inside our four Things Gratitude Journal,
which there's a code if you are wanting to get
ahead of Christmas shopping and thanksgivings all about gratitude. We
have these adorable Four Things gratitudejournals and there's two different
(18:01):
cover options, so you can choose which color combo you
want or if you're getting multiple. This is the person
we've ever done a code, and the proceeds are going
to Haiti. All the proceeds do so the code is
Amy twenty. But it's not like it's making me anything,
but that'll save you twenty percent and then you'll support
education in Haiti through the journals or anything on the
(18:24):
four Things, Like you can just go anything that benefits Haiti.
The code Amy twenty should work. And we're just trying
to help people out with the holidays and Christmas gifts
because I feel like prices everywhere are just really high,
but people still want to give back, and it's just
a way you can do that such a little added
discount that'll also support something that's very near and dear
(18:48):
to my heart. And there's a lot of really cute
four Things gift items or even like cool mom, cool
dad stuff born your things, So I'll link all that
in the show notes as well. In the addition that's
up right now, there's a couple of recipes, and then
there's also stickers in the back and on each page
there's a quote for inspiration. So it's something for yourself
(19:10):
if you're wanting to get into gratitude or something that
would be a really good gift, Like you could probably
buy five of them and then boom, you've got five
gifts for maybe like girlfriends in your life, for kids,
or if.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're going to a favorite Things party, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Could take that, or like a there's four things pullovers
and tots and zipper pouches and stuff like that. So again,
all that will be linked in the show notes and
Kat and I hope you're having the day that you
need to have, Cat, Where can people find.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You on Instagram at at Kat van Buren.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And I am at Radio Amy Happy Thanksgiving, sing Happy Things.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Got a song to you, Happy Thing, that's happy Birthday.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
That was like last Tuesday when we were singing, because
we recorded a whole thing and then I singing will
make you happy, decrease stressing and get rid of anger. Yeah,
so there you go, Bye bye
Speaker 2 (20:10):
M HM.
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