August 25, 2019 • 48 mins
On this episode, Bobby and Eddie are talking about bands that have more than one Lead Singer. Why the original singers left…Whether it was creative differences...they wanted to go do other projects...or in some cases the singers died.
We’ll also talk about whether they were well received by fans and had success putting out new music after switching singers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, about to get an episode one bands that
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you may have heard of that I've had more than
one lead singer. Before we get into one, let me
say that you can check out the Sore Losers Sports podcast.
Since Eddie is here, I believe I'll start with that
promotion the Sore Losers Sports Podcast, which is really the
only reason Eddie comes on this podcast is to use
a podcast to promote his podcast. Cross promotion. Only reason
many money off that show. Yet a little bit have
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you got to check? Oh, look at that's mixed in
with other stuff that I do, So I don't really
know what it is the exact amount yet there should be, Mike,
shouldn't There'll be like a breakdown, there should be. Yeah,
I haven't seen that. It's on the check is it? Yeah? Okay,
because maybe I need to do a little bit more research. Yeah,
good for you that you should have been paid for
stuff like all I have. I can tell the show
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is just now starting to take off to where it's
you're doing ads. Yes, yeah, so and again there's value
and you're coming on this show because I tell people
go check out the Sore Losers and I appreciate that. Well, yeah,
I mean also, you're good at this, Thanks dude. It's
my favorite thing that you do here. Of all things
that we do together, this is my favorite thing that
you know. That's so I check out the store Losers, which,
by the way, I was on my phone just now
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because I'm going to host a CM honors tonight, and um,
I I logged onto my dating app, right and you
get a match? Well it said I had a friend passed.
I could give a pass? Would you like my friend pass?
But you would imagine the drama that would bring into
my house if it's a gift from Bobby baby promise, Like,
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it's just a gift. This is that app. It's kind
of the hoity toity dating app. Do you have to
be invited on? Like? I would love to see the
people on it? Yeah, look I have you only get
a friend pass, Like every three months, I have a
friend passed. If you like it, I wanna kindly decline that, Okay,
just saying I'm just thinking about you right there. We
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also have Amy's podcast called Four Things with Amy Brown.
There's an episode she's really proud of recently with Walker
and Landy Hayes. I was talking to about it this
morning and she said, you know, Walker Hayes may not
be the most famous person, but if people would just
listen to that episode, I think they'll love it. Um,
I do anything you want to say about that. It's
really good. Yeah, I don't know what to talk about
because I haven't listened to it. They're talking all about
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um Walker and Laney together, their child they lost, and
then a bunch of positive stuff too, stuff they're grateful for. Yeah.
She said, it's very happy and very sad, but in
the end, just you're just grateful for a lot of stuff.
So I'd encourage you to check out Four Things with
Amy Brown if you haven't already, and you can hear
the episode with Walker and Laney. Walker and Landy Hayes.
We have two Walkers in our life now, Walker Burrows,
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Walker Borrows from American I who tours with us, and
I haven't called on Walker Hayes yet on stage, and
I know I'm going to at some point. When we
see people. Sometimes when we're airports, people will be like, Eddie,
I'm nice to meet you, and oh my gosh, Walker,
Hey's such a big fan. He's like, Oh, it's because
he's the opposite of Walker. Hayes. Well, there was a
little about Walker Hayes too, as he toured with me
on my stand up tour for eight months, so I
had two Walkers and I shoul always go here. He
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is Walker has everybody you know? Are you already gonna
do that? Someday? You might not worried because not that
big of a deal, true for someone who's been called
Billy Owns or Bobby Jones or I'm not that big
of it. But I'm surprised I haven't done it yet.
Um Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson, which speaking of that,
Kelly and I've been friends for a long time. We
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did it for a way back in the day, and
I went on very cavalry with her. It's funny who
recognized me from what? Because I'll be some places and
they'll be like, oh, most places, hey, Bobby Bones, listen
to the radio show, love it. Occasionally I'll get hey,
I'm really have a listen to the show, but recommended
your book fantastic. Sometimes I'll get oh, you're the guy
from American Idol, or someone will come up to me
and go, I know you you're from what? Get from
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what show? And I go and you never want to
answer it because if someone goes I know you, it's
almost a no win because if you tell them and
you're wrong and they they're just like they're like, no,
I didn't know you from that. Yeah, now trying to yeah,
and I'll go, um, American Idol, I'm like, Uhance one
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of the stars. No, And I'm like, I've been in
some other like shows for like Miss Amra, No you
Very Cavalery, I'm like, what from one episode and the
Canadian Airport I got stopped from doing. So there's um,
somebody come up with a friend of mine today where
this all comes back around because Kelly is gonna be
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over here in a bit too um with my closest
stuff for tonight and she's like, I want to stitch
you up with a girl from Very Cavalry. And I
was like, Kelly, it's not Kelly, it's another girl. Happened,
been there done. I gotta talk to Kelly and says
she's cool though, Okay, yeah, I get the inside information.
So because Kelly's on the show too, Yeah, so it's
not Kristen, is it. I gave j the app like
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I was gonna give you, and this is what that's
what happened. So Kelly has four things are Kelly has
Velvet's Edge podcast. It all comes back around she got
the Velvet Edge podcast. It's a it's a brand podcast.
You know, if you're a female, I would say young
twenties to young forties. It is a podcast for you style,
health and wellness, and sometimes she brings on really interesting
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people to talk to real close. We've been in the
talks with about three other podcasts for a long time.
We're about to bring out about three new shows. That's awesome.
Do you know there are yet one of the sam
if you do because we were is one of them
right here next to us. Have you talked about four
new shows? Mike is gonna do a movie podcast. That
(05:21):
that one I feel comfortable with. Um, we don't have
a movie a movie name yet. You know everything Mike
and the movies. But in the movies something I'm still
working on. We we we did a video thing for a while.
It was like Mike at the movie. Yeah, that's well.
I know they didn't last very long. What was this
old move? It's like cow move is like and then
I think was there a move? And all cows? Movies
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about cows? Because that would be good. Otherwise that would
but there aren't very movies, very many movies about cows.
I don't think behind the movies with Mike, because we've
wanted a lot of things. Want to talk about some
movies and interesting stories like we do on this or
maybe a year. This year, all these movies came out
as big Year from movies or he's a big movie nerd,
so big nerd over here, big nerd. We started doing
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the geek minute today that we were doing I'm not
sure what I called it. I was like, I liked it, Yeah,
just letting Mike did geek out a little bit and
then he just he just he loses you. Sometimes you're like,
all right, too many numbers. Yeah, like I appreciate. We
went over one minute peeked out Caroline Hobby as a
podcast called Get Real with Caroline Hobby, and some interesting
was Chris Daughtry's wife is on and Chris Daughtry, who
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has a bunch of hits in the pop and rock world.
I guess what my understanding is he cheated at one
point and they talked about this in the podcast, very
open about that, and then she was like, all right,
I'm gonna get me a girlfriend. And he's like, all right,
and she did, and she did and they just lived open.
She had a girlfriend. While this is wild story checking out,
we're all okay with it's crazy. It worked out. So
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that's called get real with Caroline Hobby. So I told
my wife about that, and you're on the app and uh,
she said, no way, I got a lot of stuff.
Anything you want to say, no, man, we're good or
I'm good. All right, appreciate everybody. We're gonna start episode
right now here we go. Welcome to episode one. Bands
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that have had more than one lead singer today, we're
talking about fans, big bands. Uh, they've had more than
one singer, more than one front man. Why the original
singers left, whether it was creative differences, or they wanted
to go to the projects, or in some cases, if
the singers died. And we've gotten so much positive feedback
about episodes like this, they're heavily downloaded. That's awesome. We
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come on and talk about music like this. We love
doing it. Yeah, we just started doing it once. I
think because somebody bailed out of an episode, we're like,
oh crap, we don't have an episode this week Eddy,
let's talk about music, songs that make us ours And
then all of a sudden people were talking like crazy,
So we appreciate that. Whenever Dusty Slay was in The Comedian,
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he was like, you know what I really enjoyed, and
he had listed some interview episodes, but it was like,
I really like the one where you talked about songs
that people didn't know the meaning. And he goes, you know,
I heard the one about Phil Collins in the year
tonight and he didn't really have a reason he wrote
that song. He goes, what if he just got talked
talking about the real reason. I was like, screw this,
I wrote it for no reason I'm talking about it,
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which is possible. So what do we know? We just
know what we read. We have no idea. Some of
these I've heard from situations that I'm maybe not super
close to it, but I'm one degree away from So
someone like you trust in the inside that yeah, knows
about it. And I start with Phil Collins, and you know,
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Phil Collins was the lead singer of a band Genesis.
Right now before he was Um Peter Gabriel was the
lead singer of Genesis. So nineteen seventy six because they
replaced Peter Gabriel with Phil Collins. So this is Genesis
with Peter Gabriel. So Peter Gabriel left Genesis for a
solo career following nine. Do you know Peter gabriel solo
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song in your Rise? That's the that's the big one, right,
that's the big one. Yeah. So Gabriel left Genesis and
Phil Collins, who was the backing vocals and the drummers,
took over vocal duties will continue in too drum so
as he's doing that. And by the way, they were
searching for a lead singer while he was doing that initially,
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so let's go final lead singer and Phil Collins like,
I gets all this drum and keep singing when don't
we get it? And then he became the lead singer.
But what happened was, as that happened as well, Phil
Collins started to do a solo career at the same time.
So as Genesis with Phil Collins happened right behind it.
If they're running a race like a length and a
half behind, Phil Collins had started to do a solo crew,
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which made him this massive star because he had two
projects at the same time. Blowing up at the same time. Um,
and so what do you have from Phil Collins? Over there?
Do you have anything else? Now? Some of these that
may be confused, which one it is? If it's I
couldn't tell you, Okay, I would have been Phil Collins.
Oddly because of the voice, it's still Phil Collins singing it.
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How about that? Genesis based a tough decision with Phil
Collins quit the band, to carry on with a third
lead singer or call it quits. What do you think happen?
He called it quits the band the band and then
kept on with Phil Collins. Then there were no other
good vocalists in the band. They couldn't just go all right,
next up? So the keyboardist was tempted to call it
a day, but Mike Rutherford pushed the group to continue.
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The last tour they did stadiums. They felt that the
family loyalty wasn't up to carry him on. They brought
on a guy named Ray Wilson. Huh which Ray not Rain?
Ray Rain? From the off the group were unknown, but
they had inside. There was a minor hit in England.
It was nothing that anyone cared about. But if you remember,
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justice came back again, and they had that. They had
this the song where um it was with They're Walking
to the Beach. I yeah, I can't dance, Mike. It's
when Genesis came back. Remember that I do, because this
isn't my my, your eighties, Nope, nineties. Look up. I
can't dance because Genesis comes back. But I can't dance again.
This is not a prep sheet, Damn. I remember just
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standing selling. Neither Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins in this
band at this point. No, this is Will Collins. They
got back together and then they blew up. Man. I
mean I was little, so I remember all this stuff happening,
but I just figured the band never broke up. I
didn't know Phil Collins had his own side project. You
didn't know Phil Culture does something. You didn't know Phil
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collinures Phil Collin. I didn't even know who Peter Gabriel was,
but Phil Collins had bigger songs outside of I remember
what he looked like. I remember he was bald, and
remember he kind of looked well now now he kind
of looks like, um, the astronaut, you know, the astronaut
who takes lots of pictures in space. Kelly he's like
a I don't know he's famous. No, no, no no, he's
like a current astronaut that like lived up there for
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a whole year. Anyway, they looked the same, and I
just remember that look and like, yeah, he makes that
music and I think he's a drummer or something and
he sings. That's all I remember of Phil Collins in Genesis.
But you didn't know the Phil Collins like I didn't
know he wasn't feel it. I thought that was all
Genesis you did. Yeah. Again, I don't know the difference
about hearing them, but I guess I knew Phil Collins
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as Phil Collins before I knew the Genesis stuff. We
were so young, but that band had and then Peter
Gabriel was, you know, the big one, and it was
both of them went on that Peter Gabriel, what did
he do after everything? He had a pretty successful career himself,
I would say moderately successful. He had a massive hit
and your Yeah, but that was before we were born.
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Are you really seventy nine? Right? The song came out
seventy nine? What years this? Mike? I would bet do
you think it's eighties? If I'm betting money, I would
have been a lot, but I would think so. I
think it was like early mid eighties. Oh, you're probably right.
Let's see. No, let's see this song. He made me
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really question to myself. I remember it and I was going, man,
am I just I was four and I remember uncle's
talking about this stuff. You were teenager's crazy? All right,
stop fuck the inside and we've talked. This is the
the song that John Cusack plays and say anything when
He Holds was rereleased. Okay, Okay, I got it right then.
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I feel good about what we were running around. Okay,
let's go to Lone Star. Lone Star had John Rich
and Richie McDonald as co lead singers. John Rich also
played the bass. Okay, so you have John Rich who
now is in Big and Rich and Richie McDonald who's
now in well, lone Star. Okay, I thought there was
something else Brooks and Dunn. Is this John? So here's John?
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Are you hearing Lone Star? Leave living? Lone Star? Again?
And two? Did you know that the band was called Texassy? Texassy?
What does that mean? I'm looking at the spelling. It's
like Texas plus see. The name was derived from the
fact that all five members were natives of Texas and
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meta Nashville. So Texas c would be how to say it,
then Texas ce like like Tennessee. Yeah, not not easy
to read that and know what I'm talking about. That
that would be like the Eaters kind of like that
doesn't work. You can just see a bunch of record
people being like it's the Wonders. The original lineup consisted
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of Richie McDonald from Lubbock and bass and lead and
background vocalist John Rich from Amarillo. Well, they were right
right across streat from each other in towns. Shortly after
the release of Everything's Changed, John Rich left the band
as they and their advisers felt that having two lead
singers would be confusing to fame. So now this is
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all before Amazed, right, But to be fair, they both
went on and had super successful career. I mean to
be fair, and John Rich is still going. Yeah, And
I would say that if you're putting them in eggs,
which egg has the most in it? Currently that Big
and Rich wind lone Star one massive pop song and
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lone Star This was the number one pop song. That
Islands in the Stream was the only other country song
to be the number one song that's crazy. That's that's
a big song. This song hit and went number one.
It was came from country and then pop. So he
so John Rich misses out on that. He has to
be like, oh my god, yeah, just I just left
Lone Star and they have a massive commercial pop it
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and then even back it up a little bit. He's
probably thinking, you know, like this is gonna be good
for my career. Before this song, he's even the thought,
I just gotta leave the band. They don't like that
there's two lead singers. Whatever. I would do something myself,
and then he leaves, and right after he leaves, boom
they have them. And if we're to flip it, I
bet the guys in Lone Star again we're just assuming.
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I bet they were like John Rich and make a
pile of beans. He's out of here. Good for him,
he's a lot to deal with. Let's go see what
concoction he comes up with. And then boom, Big and
Rich blow up. They both did all right. Yeah, if
I were to jump on one of the sides, I
would jump on Big and Rich because there's longevity, and
that longevity more hits, not top hits. That they had
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a bunch of country hits, but Lone Star had two
lead singers. One of them left, John Rich went over
and did Big and Rich now did Lone Star. They
sing them on the road with Pearl jam. Uh, there's
a song. I'm pretty sure it's a Lone Star. It's
about a girl that like left her family to join
a rock band. It's pretty big. I know about three
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Lone Star songs, Mike, what are their big songs? Amazed?
I'm already there. Mr. Mom's three. I'm already there, looking
in and walking to I know four those. I guess
I know more. Yeah, I don't know the all jams.
The one I'm thinking about it not on there. I
don't know which one it is, but that's I mean,
that was me growing up, remembering Lone Star before Amazed.
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I'm already there was a jam. Which one was that one?
I'm already there. Oh yeah, yeah. Of the kids laughing
in the background, I had to whip away or two
from his I that's not John Rich, right. Little voice
came on the phone, said, Daddy, when you come home?
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He said. The first thing came to his body. I'm
ready there, say around what else? Do you have a spark?
Clups Mike, I don't want to waste any his clubs.
I'm let's sorry, I said, Okay, let's go over to
Black Sabbath. Can you name just Dauzy? Well, there there's
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more three. Wow, do you know them? I would have
gotten two of them, but I wouldn't have gotten the
third one. Black Sabbath it was massive. We know them
from Ozzy, but they got stronger when Ozzy was pushed out.
Remember they pushed Ozzie on before we were born. And
so the last few albums that they had put out
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with Ozzy Osboe were pretty disappointing, and new singer Ronnie
James Dio infused the band with an incredible new energy quote.
It says here he lasted two albums, and so here
they are again in search of a new lead singer.
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So again, this is Ronnie James d I would have known.
I've never heard this. This definitely is definitely different energies
than Ozzy. Black Sabbague a little harder, but less creepy,
less less less creepy, less less monster movie. It's less dart,
it's a little brighter, less satanic. Yeah, uh so Deep Purple.
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The band had folded at this point this is Smoke
on the Water. Yeah, smoke on the water, the fire
in this guy Dudna. So their vocalist Ian I didn't
know this one Ian Gillian Ian Gillen needed needed a job,
so it looked like it made sense. He came from
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Deep Purple. He goes over and there's a lot of
overlapping Black Sabbath and Deep Purple fan communities. But their
lone album together, Born Again, it didn't click and so
bad here you go sounds like Christma more Nell. So
could this Oh, they're they're supporting their their tour. They
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went out as was what kind of inspired spinal tap
to happen? They built a Stonehenge stage that was too
big for almost every venue they what they built for
the stage and of these venues, and so they had
to reform Deep Purple. So he remains there, uh to
this day with Deep Purple. So he was the third
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singer after Ozzie. So Ozzie first, then this other Guide
which by the way, Mike didn't he sing for another band?
Isn't he a famous rock singer? My film? Okay, that's
why I know him? And so then this guy Black
Sabbath limped along with another singer Tony Martin, ultimately reforming
with about Deo and Ozzie at various points in the future.
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So I am getting blown up right now. It's that
dating a man. I guess it's not the data app Life.
Turn that up, Mike. My phone is selling the pool.
So now I just ringed in the volumes off. Yeah,
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that's why you heard it ring. I'm getting a new
one tomorrow. They're shipping it here because of insurance. But
my phone's never even know I was like, why is
it makeing a noise? Do you have that phone insurance?
I have that too, And they all sent me like
worst phones. This one will be a brand new good,
but make sure it was ringing. And I turned It's like, no, sorry,
you're broken. You You will now suffer the consequences of
breaking your phone. All right, let's let's get off that one.
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Let's go to something we know a little more about. Sublime.
Oh original least thing it was. His name was Bradley Noel. Yeah,
nice job. How you go back in the vault In
that one, Sublime form The band's lineup unchanged after their breakup,
Bradley Noel, Eric Wilson and the brad formed in the
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band form, So brad did a heroin overdose in he
died of It resulted in Sublime breakup. Bradley died before
their song went number one. This one crazy for that
album came Hug. The band broke up after his death.
Isn't it crazy that this was after he died. It's
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just like Jannis Choplin. She died before she ever got
to hear me and Bobby McGhee which Father wasn't her song.
She recorded it, but it was a Christen song, but
it blew up. Her biggest song was after she died.
I never got to hear it, or did they? Yeah,
they might have, but I mean I got to go
to the nice thing and you were like, got really
deep there this questions. Then two thousand nine, the band
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brought on Rome Ramirez, a longtime fan of the band,
as the new lead vocalist, but found they were legally
barred from using the name Sublime, which was still owned
by Braley Knowls estate. Eventually, the band renamed itself Sublime
with Rome. With Rome, however, fans hated him and said
he can't sing. They still continue to tour. Do we
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have a club of Sublime with Rome? I don't. I
ain't got a little Christmas live works as long as
you know it's not the original lead singer, I just
don't want to enjoin this works. So he was just
a fan. You know the other band that happened to
oh god, fan as a lead singer. Now it was
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a Journey. Yeah, yeah, So do you know the original
singer of Journey, Um Perry, Um, what's his what's his name?
Steve Perry? That was one beforehand got me. He walked
me right into that one too. Yeah, it's got named.
Greg Rowley was the lead singer, the Journey lead singer
in the first one, replaced by Steve Perry and then
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replaced by Steve Algerie and then later Arnel Pineta. Who's
there now? So Journey nine. Do you know what band
that they're from? Like, Journey was in a different band
and they broke out and created Journey. Boston Santana bandmates
in Santana. Really I did not know that. And Greg
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Rowley was on keyboards and lead vocals with Santana because
remember Santana didn't sing you're talking, yeah, you're yeah exactly.
He did. So when they would do songs, he would
singing this Greg Rowley, the guy who was the original
singer and Journey, he would sing for Santana. Was he
singing like the oyakomo, like the old sentence. I don't
know if that went specifically Black Magic Woman. But that's
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an interesting question that I don't know the answer too,
because I mean, I wonder how vocals on Black Magic
Woman just by itself, because that was a long time ago.
So I wonder if these guys were part of that
band in that sixties Santana because you were watching like
old woodstock footage in Santana plays like that band is
like the hippies. I mean, they're like long haired hippies.
They look like they're out of it. They're really high. Yeah,
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I could him, that's him. I'm a magic Woman. Wow,
that's Greg Roley, good call who was singing for Santana
Black Magic Woman went over. Was the singer of Journey,
and they all they all have the same sound like
he sounds a lot like well, I guess Steve Perry
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sounds a lot like him, you know, I think, And
we probably went to a C d C later. But again,
once you have an original lead singer, you kind of
find something that sounds ish to the original. So I
think they have the same sound on purpose, and I
think Steve Perry kind of existed because Greg Orrowley sound existed. First.
You don't want to go and find somebody that's a
big old baritone, right, sounds completely different than what you've
been sounding like for years. They hired Steve Perry to
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sing four years later, and they saw their popularity go pow,
Raleigh is him a black magic woman? But they said
Steve Perry had a great gift with pop songs. So
Steve Perry lost interest in the band. I was like,
you know what, I'm good. Lose interest is like, you
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know this is not for me. I'm gonna go on
and do nothing. Came back for a reunion and then
Steve Perry was getting sick and they were like, he's like,
I'm I'm out again, And so the band's like, well,
then what do we do? Is you gonna wait around
for him to get better? They didn't, so they brought
in uh, Steve aer fancy looked like Steve Kerry with
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a perm His name was even similar. Too many Steves,
too many similarities. So after a while I parted with him,
and then too many similarities sorry even the Steve. Sorry,
did you're too much like Steve? You probably should have
changed her name though, Like this is Sean. So the
band's like all right, And they came across this guy
on YouTube named Arnel pin YadA. He sounded exactly like
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Steve Ferry. I remember when this went down, small town version.
He was a band bones And I'm on YouTube how
many times is this guy singing karaoke bars and just
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kill it? Oh, go in and not say one before
before he got hired by the band, And they're just
like this guy's good man, Yeah, you sound just like
Steve Perry. Good job. I guess it's the greatest call
up to the majors from the karaoke bars to freaking
singing for the band. And is he still the singer?
That's he's still the singer. And people still want Steve
Perry to come back. What I think probably happens eventually
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Steve Perry comes back and they both are on stage.
Now you've met Steve Perry. Yeah, I was backstage American
Idol and Michael you back there, and Steve Perry was
on if not the finale, the next last episode and
I'm getting here and makeup done. We're probably thirty minutes
from the show and on my door, what's like comeing in?
I don't know. The guy was an old guy walked
in and I was like, what's up, b aald guy
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and he's like, well, there he is, the King of radio.
And I was like, thanks, old guy, how you do
the look around? I was looking at random senior citizens
stop by thinking about it. Thank you very much, old guy.
I hope you have a good day. He's like, all right,
good to see I'll see you out there. And I'm like,
old guy must be a fan of Mr Bones himself,
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king of radio. He called me all right, walks out,
walks down. Um, this screen comes on and we're watching it.
You know, I'm like four doors away from the set,
so I didn't go on it to like the second
act of the show. And I look at it like
I guess it's in the audience Steve Perry. It was
a freaking old guy came by my door. Not only
we'll see that old guy that came out the door.
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He thought, I'll drawing secret the best part. I love
it there he is like there he is. I was like,
I wouldn't call me that, but I won't say no
to it. I will take it from this nice, kind
old man. It was like, Pap, all right, get back
to see. I don't know how you wandered away from
you carry Giver, but you're like And that's how I
met Steve Perry, and that's how I became the lead
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singer of Journey. Have you ever seen I was talking
to mikea about this. You ever seen rock Star? No,
it's Mark Wahlberger. Yes, same kind of scenario where like
he's a huge fan of this metal van and the
metal the singer of that band just decides to quit
and then they hold auditions and he makes an audition
and he wows them and he becomes the lead singer.
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But it's the same storyline. It's I mean, the movie
is really good if you get a chance, but I didn't.
I didn't see it. I should watch it still, even
with everything out now, well, I mean, if you're bored,
got nothing to do, You've you've looked through Netflix. Nothing
interests you. If I've got no job, they've got no money.
I got nothing to do. A C d C massive,
A c d C things. You are massive. So I'm
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pretty well versed in a C D C hit and
I am not really. I know they had two lead singers. Well,
the original singer was Bond Scott and so he and
again you talk about singers, do you get that are
driven about the lead singer. You don't just gonna find
a really good singer. They gotta somewhat if you don't
like the band exactly like the same guy, but they
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gotta feel like that. That was the case with Bond
Scott and so you know they came out of Australia,
but Bonds, although it was the biggest and it was
really the first when they had blown up, there was
this dude, Dave Evans was kind of really the starter.
Before they kind of got going, Bon Scott became the guy.
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Bon Scott died in February. How did he die? Choked
on drinking from what I remember, they call it alcohol poisoning,
but one of those that vomited up and choked up
like he's asleep. So he goes back in his yeah,
and and they went hard and so that's how he died.
The group was struggling to find a lead singer because
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who else sounds like this? You gotta sound great and
had this kind of tone right, So a C d C.
There's a local guy named Brian Johnson who you will
know now as the lead singer. He's the one with
the beret hat, right or whatever is Ish Yeah, whatever
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happened however you call that and he's and he's ripped.
He's old now probably was Scott was ripped, was yeah,
um so, but Bond Scott wasn't when they got the
biggest success. I mean they had a couple of hits,
but it was all Brian Johnson and so all the
big stuff. It was definitely a higher voice, yeah, but
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still I mean he took off with that sound and
made even stronger. Local guy. Bond Scott has seen Brian
performing with his band and was like, hey man, that
guy's really good. So they went to Bryan Johnson. They
were like yo, dude, and so they recorded back in
Black as a tribute to Bond Scott. This the song.
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It was like this is this is for you and
it blows up. We heard the stories that English Young,
their guitar player, loses ten towns every night. No for
running around sweating that much. He has to drink a
ton of water. I always thought that he was the
lead singer just because you know, I always near the
school boy outfit. Yea. So they had their own section
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at Walmart. They were so big a c DC, like
of all their records, and you meant like they would
they would shop at their own section, or they would
go in and work their own sex interested. So he
recently with him, he was going deaf, and they were like, yo, dude,
you can keep touring, but you're gonna continue going deaf
and deaf and deaf and deafer, or you gotta call
it quits. And so he quit. So and they're older
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now too, obviously he's probably seventy. But so he was
losing his hearing. You know that happened to someone else
recently too in country where they're like, yo, you're losing
your hearing. Oh yeah, who was that? But so Axel
Rose replaced them and was singing with a c DC
for a while. I remember that. Really they didn't record
a record together, but he was touring and he for
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a c d C. Wow, similar voice. I get it.
Blank wanted to two. The original singer was Tom Along.
That's crazy. This seems like it's too soon to talk about.
Like well, Mark Hoppuss and Tom DeLong were the lead
singers and Tom DeLong left the band of They got
Matt Skibba from Alkaline Trio to replace them. I said,
you wouldn't know Alkaline for you. Yes, I remember them.
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Mark Coppiss and Travis Barker said we were all set
to play the festival and record a new album, and
Tom kept putting it off. A week before we were
scheduled to go in to the studio, we got an
email for his managers and he don't want to participate
in any blank one in a two projects. He would
rather work on his non musical endeavors. So I think
Tom has a different story too, right Aliens, Yeah, he's
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a big alien. Ye Blink wanted to replace him with
Matt from Alcolin Tree. It still looks so weird. They
got promo shots and you're just like that now though
they are altering the original three. Tom's out. Oh. I
thought Tom was back in for the reunion and they've
talked about it, but they haven't done it yet. So
I remember seeing Angels An Airwaves, which was a Tom DeLong.
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Yeah for Weezer. We went to Weezer for the middle
act and forgot about that project. DeLong confirmed that you
know he'd rejoined Blank Wanity too, but he hasn't discussed
it with the band. I saw Blank one two, all
the original ree in Vegas and that was like awesome. Wait,
so whenever they were hiring Blake one to two for Firefest,
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that was not that was this? That's this one really
and they're doing I think in Vegas one of those
deals where you're sitting, you do multiple nights residency, and
that's Matt Skip them. Yeah. I wouldn't go to a
Matt Ski no, man, I'm telling you, like, or I
would have the Mark cop Is singing them all he does?
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Does this guy sing it all? Though? I think? Really,
I think Mark sings most of it? Was like Barneked Ladies,
is this Do I have barneck lays on this? Or
should I talk freely about that? Barneked Ladies, you know
they want to a band I love. They had two
singers that Steven Page who was the singer, and Ed
who was the rapper, and the other two white dudes
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and you know it's been one week, so who sings that? Even? Okay,
Stephen sings the hook right, and then Ed is taking
to China the Chinese chicken, and so they kicked Stephen
at the band. He hasn't been in a band forever,
and he came back for the Nadie and Hall of
Fame the Music Awards. So Ed sing is Stephen singing
in um the Big Bang theory. I think that's it
because they did that after Stephen left. I think I
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would imagine but this is Ed here. But Ed now
sings all the parts today and all the songs sounds great. Yeah,
I can't tell the difference. He doesn't sing as wonderfully
as Stephen did, but it's still really good. And you're like,
all right, I'm with it, and he's an original member.
But they just have Ed now or they hated you,
remember that, you know what the bot was about. I
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think it was just this is just me remembering. Could
be wrong. I think Stephen was like having a drug. Yeah,
that's a thing. That's the thing that happens a lot
in bands where they're just like, we've tried to really yea,
be patient with you, but we just can't anymore. We
can't move forward if you're pulling his back. A lot
of people don't know this, but the basis for you too.
He was that guy for that band. It's crazy like
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basis in a heartbeat. Though they were all childhood friends.
So what do you do? You just play a base. Okay,
we're gonna move on without you. It's listen. It's a
little easier to cut someone who isn't the front of
the band, meaning the visual of the band. It'd be
harder to cut Edge Edges, not the singer, but Edges,
the guitar player. And you know him by seeing the band.
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When you see Edge with the little hat on, you're like,
oh you too. When you see when you see Kurt
the Bassis or whatever, it is like, oh you do.
Even the Rolling Stones, you know, although they all kind
of look it's not Mick or Richard. They all look
like and they're they're they're all famous at this point
to but you got the drummer, you know what? We
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just want put the camera back there to get rid
of the drum cam. We're good, Van Halen, Oh, this
is a good one. This is a good one. And
I also think that this is one where they didn't
really try too much to carry the sound. They were like,
how many how many singers? Three or four? Three? Well,
we'll go down the list here. If there were three,
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there were three different stages of Van Halen. It all
sounded different. Davie Roll started. They really caught their groove
with Sammy Hagar, which was my favorite Van Helen, and
then Gary Sharron later replaced him. So from eighty five
a long time for a band, eleven years. It was
Eddie Van Halen, Eddie's brother Alex van Halen, David Lee Roth,
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and the bassist Michael Anthony. So they're like, all right, Roth,
you gotta go, and Roth was like, I just solo
stuff anyway, and I think, you know, I remember correctly.
All of that was Eddie just being Eddie was hard Edie,
He's he's the lead, He's the it was. He was
always like, it's my band. Yeah, you're the face, You're
the lead singer. But I put you there. Yeah, yeah,
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Davie Rob had swaggered before. It was really a thing. Dude,
like he his one. His voice was amazing. He had
this thing where he can like scream and it sounded
like his voice was doing two different notes at the
same time. I never heard that in my life. And
two he could do a jump and that was a
big part of Split Man in the Air. In n
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van Halen replaced David Lee Roth with Sammy Hagar, who
was in a band called Montrose. I didn't know the
past band story, I didn't know whither. I thought he
was solo and they had so many hits that so
many has the Sammy Hagar. The band slightly shifted directions
a bit, yeah, and went from big time because Sammy
Hagar wasn't a flam like a very loud, flamboyant long
haired wearing and he had long hair, but he was
(38:29):
more like muscular power and a little more serious. Yeah, okay,
that's good. Internal disputes led to Sammy Hagar's departure. It's
always internal repute, of course, this is so good. Disagreed
with the decision to record two new tracks for a
great Distance album after after the band had agreed to
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take off some time. So the end came when Eddie
Van Halen started to work with lead singer David Lee
Roth instead of Hagar again, and the two new songs
were made with the row on the Greatest Hits album.
This is while Sam's gonna brand the band. So yeah,
just a little shady. We don't know the real story
behind it, but you got a new lead singer we're
still working with you all one a little bit too.
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I would be kissed. It's like being in a relationship
but you're still gonna have done with your ex boyfriend.
Not gonna happen. That's like, no, I'm out. So Van
Halen part of the ways with Davilye Roth again, and
then instead of hiring Haygar, the band hired Gary Sharone
who was in Extreme more than What Oh. I remember
when this happened to It's like what yeah. They were like, well,
we've replaced the lead singer before, what's it doing again?
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Rock didn't work? So we upon that time this is
bad album just did nothing from that powerfull lead singer.
But the fans didn't even like. People weren't having it.
Gary Sharon left it for three years. Uh. Sam hey
I came back in two thousand four, and then David
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Lee Roth returned three years later, and at one point
they were all doing a tour together. I think they
currently are if they're not, if they're done with the
shows they that was the last thing they've done well
because I saw them on KIM recorded music. Because I
know Sammy hey Gar still doing stuff with like his
Island band too. Yeah, something like that. It's funny that
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you even know that. His island band, David Lee Roth's funny.
Remember we did California Girls. Don't remember because it was
like early early eighties. I remember, but dude, I was
a roller roller skating rink music. Yeah, yeah, can you
pull up davidly Roth California Girls or Mr and Just Jiggalo.
That was David Ross solo. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
(40:36):
California Girls was too. Yeah, you're right, Life goes on
without me? Yeah, God, no, there is this is California Girls.
Yeah solo, my dud ye just Jiggalo just did this
(40:58):
is like me just in the classic already he had
gloves in his he had gloves on. He's a video.
I remember this say about when he comes out. No,
it was just int come on, life goes on without me.
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Everybody is yeah, nobody, nobody, nobody, very theatrical. He was
Fleetwood Mac who originally singer was Bob Welch. Al right, good,
I didn't know that. Placed by um Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie
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Nicks and Stevie Nicks lots like Matt. I don't remember
the old one. This is a Good Stuff had lots
and lots and lots of lineup changes. In nineteen seventy one,
Bob Welch joined the group as a vocalist and guitarist,
but that was real short lin See Buckingham was asked
to join in seventy four and he made sure that
his girlfriend Stevie Nicks could come along and going wow,
(42:05):
that's how she got in, and that's when Fleetwood Max
sort of have to success. He got in and they
brought his girlfriend's random girlfriend. It's pretty good, but she's
just a girlfriend, right, throw her in. It's like trained
football player, let me get cashing sentenced to She was
imagine the band too. They would just be like, oh really, dude,
your girlfriend great, here we go, Yoko part Fleetwood Mac
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at a low point in nine. Earlier that year, the
Rumors lineup reformed play Bill Clintons inaugural Bash, but they
could not even with that that pop like each other
enough to stay on the road. Mick Fleetwood and John
mcvee mckbye brought in year old Becky Bramlin's her job
(42:47):
wants to play Stevie Nicks and Billy Burnett played the
Lindsay Buckingham role. So it was the band without those two.
But they try to get two people to do that,
that's weird. It looked like a tribute band, and they
found themselves in bad places, for example, like opening for
Ario Speedwagons. All right, hang around. Heard it from a friend,
(43:10):
so that was a story that different lead singers. Queen, No,
this is Adam Lambert, the original lead singer, Freddie Mercury,
and they and they've made this work, not for new hits,
but for existence and touring. Somehow they've made it work.
You're right, and Adam Lambert is great, a great singer.
You would think that nobody could happen with Freddie Mercury
(43:32):
and do what Adam lamb I mean, he could be
the greatest of all time, Freddie Mercury, to feel that
void that could be. I think him dying helps in
the case of he's the greatest, because no chance to
really not be. You watch the Queen, I'm not okay, no,
I'm not. You would like it. You wouldn't love it
because it moves a little too fast. And I've heard
(43:52):
that the band you can kind of just tell the
band kind of lead the way. Well, it was their project, right,
might and at one point, though, early on, they scrapped
the original versions because the band wanted to make it
all about them without Freddy American. That's just crazy, that's
what Sasha Baron Colin was playing Freddy, really, and they
wanted Freddy Mercury to die in the middle of the
(44:13):
movie and then then carry on going on without him,
and he was like, it's terrible. I'mount like done watching this.
You would like it, but it just jumps quickly. They're like,
all right, we're gonna form a band. Well, we gotta
be called Queen. What we get to go on top
of the pops tonight and trying to find people just
like that, and then tomorrow we're playing the State. Wow.
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And it didn't happen like that, but the movies say
they had to like rush it. But Adam Lamberg joined
in two thousand twelve, and they were careful to call
themselves Queen plus Adam Lambert to illustrate that Mercury was
a one of a kind singer. But eventually did though,
right because now they're just Queen. They were here not
(44:55):
too long ago, and I thought a t shirts they're
literally called them there, aren't they We're all here we
saw them in in Vegas. Do you do did you
watch that show? You're too busy? We do those shows.
I don't get because we just shot some promos for
our already a music festival and they were like, what
do you think of this performance? I guess I don't
see anything. I'm working the whole time. I'm back on
the whole back stage. They're like, okay, well, can you
say something? I'll make something up. I didn't. I made
(45:18):
up like four stories. They were shooting this TV special
and they were like, okay, so I'll just make up
two names. They were like the time that you saw
Taylor Swift and Tiesto, they didn't play together, and that
was like fictional character, all right, and Eddie shooting it
by edded buying the camera and they're like in action.
I was like, yeah, man, it was a hot summer day.
I remember I looked down and there was beats a
(45:39):
sweat on on my towel, so the artist really had
to be hurting too. And Taylor walked by and she
was like, can you believe this heat? And I looked
at it and I was like, I feel you, Taylor,
and she kept walking and it was a really exciting
night because Taylor and Tiesto had never played together, and
so everyone was kind of gathering towards the stage to
watch this epic collaboration of Taylor, Swift and Tiesto. But
the air condition was on the entire arena and we
all worried, well Taylor even make it. And three seconds
(46:00):
before the show started, and Taylor comes out and just
nails the performance, and everyone everyone in the crowd, and
then the crowd was Tim mcgawls, all the Eagles. Yeah,
it was with the ghost of Freddie Mercury. Everyone was
watching and at the end, everybody put their fists in
the air like you did a Taylor. One of my
favorite performances ever. I made up stories like that Taylor
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and this show that never happened. But I didn't create
fake shows. I just I guess all the it's all
about entertainment, you know, I get it. I get it. Well,
I I saw them. I saw Adam Lambert play with
Queen and it was cool. It was I mean, very
low expectations because I mean, obviously it's I mean, it's
not Freddie Mercury, but it was good to see Adam
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Lambert kind of just be himself up there, and it
wasn't trying to be Freddie Mercury. He wasn't trying to
hit those crazy notes that Freddie Mercury did, So it
was it was cool. He was definitely playing himself rather
than just replacing a spot, which I guess works for
when you call yourself queen with Adam Lambert. Yeah yeah,
well how long has it been? My long one? Almost
(47:04):
fifty minutes? Look at that? Pretty good? Do you go good? Atty?
I feel good? Did you? I guess the Beatles don't
really fit in that. Huh. New lead singers, different lead singers,
but not no one replaced anyone. They had two lead singers.
I think that's a whole different thing. Yeah, well they
all sing. Yeah, I guess you're right. Like Ringo sings
in like Yellow Submarine. I'll get by these sings in
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that one little help from my friend, Here comes the sun.
So they're be surprised. Why did you like be surprised
that I know what Beatles sing? What songs? I didn't know.
We'll see my mom and I we'd always play a
game of like we listen to Beatles and be like,
all right, who's singing this one? I try to do
that with my kids, and they're like, who cares? All right,
who's this one? Who cares? Jimmy Jimmy Dad, there's no
(47:50):
Jimmy sign in the Beatles. Come on, do your kids
have a favorite YouTube person? The kid Ryan, Yeah, that's
their favorite YouTube person. Um. Again, check out Eddie's podcast store.
Losers is a sports show and he's not getting checks. Yeah,
and we get checked his advertisers by the shows, advertisers
by the shows because you guys download them when we
(48:11):
go Loo, how many hundreds, thousands or millions of downloads
we're getting and we're actually getting people that want to
advertise with us. It's awesome because once you hit a
certain level, they're like, oh yeah, like oh people listen
to that podcast. Okay, listen. We can't believe it either. Um.
Thank you very much and I think we'll call that
call that a rap on the episode. Thanks for another
good lesson. Man. I learned a lot on that episode
one nineties six. Thank you very much, See you next time. Everybody,
All right, about to get an episode one bands that
(00:03):
you may have heard of that I've had more than
one lead singer. Before we get into one, let me
say that you can check out the Sore Losers Sports podcast.
Since Eddie is here, I believe I'll start with that
promotion the Sore Losers Sports Podcast, which is really the
only reason Eddie comes on this podcast is to use
a podcast to promote his podcast. Cross promotion. Only reason
many money off that show. Yet a little bit have
(00:24):
you got to check? Oh, look at that's mixed in
with other stuff that I do, So I don't really
know what it is the exact amount yet there should be, Mike,
shouldn't There'll be like a breakdown, there should be. Yeah,
I haven't seen that. It's on the check is it? Yeah? Okay,
because maybe I need to do a little bit more research. Yeah,
good for you that you should have been paid for
stuff like all I have. I can tell the show
(00:45):
is just now starting to take off to where it's
you're doing ads. Yes, yeah, so and again there's value
and you're coming on this show because I tell people
go check out the Sore Losers and I appreciate that. Well, yeah,
I mean also, you're good at this, Thanks dude. It's
my favorite thing that you do here. Of all things
that we do together, this is my favorite thing that
you know. That's so I check out the store Losers, which,
by the way, I was on my phone just now
(01:06):
because I'm going to host a CM honors tonight, and um,
I I logged onto my dating app, right and you
get a match? Well it said I had a friend passed.
I could give a pass? Would you like my friend pass?
But you would imagine the drama that would bring into
my house if it's a gift from Bobby baby promise, Like,
(01:27):
it's just a gift. This is that app. It's kind
of the hoity toity dating app. Do you have to
be invited on? Like? I would love to see the
people on it? Yeah, look I have you only get
a friend pass, Like every three months, I have a
friend passed. If you like it, I wanna kindly decline that, Okay,
just saying I'm just thinking about you right there. We
(01:48):
also have Amy's podcast called Four Things with Amy Brown.
There's an episode she's really proud of recently with Walker
and Landy Hayes. I was talking to about it this
morning and she said, you know, Walker Hayes may not
be the most famous person, but if people would just
listen to that episode, I think they'll love it. Um,
I do anything you want to say about that. It's
really good. Yeah, I don't know what to talk about
because I haven't listened to it. They're talking all about
(02:09):
um Walker and Laney together, their child they lost, and
then a bunch of positive stuff too, stuff they're grateful for. Yeah.
She said, it's very happy and very sad, but in
the end, just you're just grateful for a lot of stuff.
So I'd encourage you to check out Four Things with
Amy Brown if you haven't already, and you can hear
the episode with Walker and Laney. Walker and Landy Hayes.
We have two Walkers in our life now, Walker Burrows,
(02:31):
Walker Borrows from American I who tours with us, and
I haven't called on Walker Hayes yet on stage, and
I know I'm going to at some point. When we
see people. Sometimes when we're airports, people will be like, Eddie,
I'm nice to meet you, and oh my gosh, Walker,
Hey's such a big fan. He's like, Oh, it's because
he's the opposite of Walker. Hayes. Well, there was a
little about Walker Hayes too, as he toured with me
on my stand up tour for eight months, so I
had two Walkers and I shoul always go here. He
(02:51):
is Walker has everybody you know? Are you already gonna
do that? Someday? You might not worried because not that
big of a deal, true for someone who's been called
Billy Owns or Bobby Jones or I'm not that big
of it. But I'm surprised I haven't done it yet.
Um Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson, which speaking of that,
Kelly and I've been friends for a long time. We
(03:12):
did it for a way back in the day, and
I went on very cavalry with her. It's funny who
recognized me from what? Because I'll be some places and
they'll be like, oh, most places, hey, Bobby Bones, listen
to the radio show, love it. Occasionally I'll get hey,
I'm really have a listen to the show, but recommended
your book fantastic. Sometimes I'll get oh, you're the guy
from American Idol, or someone will come up to me
and go, I know you you're from what? Get from
(03:34):
what show? And I go and you never want to
answer it because if someone goes I know you, it's
almost a no win because if you tell them and
you're wrong and they they're just like they're like, no,
I didn't know you from that. Yeah, now trying to yeah,
and I'll go, um, American Idol, I'm like, Uhance one
(03:56):
of the stars. No, And I'm like, I've been in
some other like shows for like Miss Amra, No you
Very Cavalery, I'm like, what from one episode and the
Canadian Airport I got stopped from doing. So there's um,
somebody come up with a friend of mine today where
this all comes back around because Kelly is gonna be
(04:17):
over here in a bit too um with my closest
stuff for tonight and she's like, I want to stitch
you up with a girl from Very Cavalry. And I
was like, Kelly, it's not Kelly, it's another girl. Happened,
been there done. I gotta talk to Kelly and says
she's cool though, Okay, yeah, I get the inside information.
So because Kelly's on the show too, Yeah, so it's
not Kristen, is it. I gave j the app like
(04:38):
I was gonna give you, and this is what that's
what happened. So Kelly has four things are Kelly has
Velvet's Edge podcast. It all comes back around she got
the Velvet Edge podcast. It's a it's a brand podcast.
You know, if you're a female, I would say young
twenties to young forties. It is a podcast for you style,
health and wellness, and sometimes she brings on really interesting
(05:01):
people to talk to real close. We've been in the
talks with about three other podcasts for a long time.
We're about to bring out about three new shows. That's awesome.
Do you know there are yet one of the sam
if you do because we were is one of them
right here next to us. Have you talked about four
new shows? Mike is gonna do a movie podcast. That
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that one I feel comfortable with. Um, we don't have
a movie a movie name yet. You know everything Mike
and the movies. But in the movies something I'm still
working on. We we we did a video thing for a while.
It was like Mike at the movie. Yeah, that's well.
I know they didn't last very long. What was this
old move? It's like cow move is like and then
I think was there a move? And all cows? Movies
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about cows? Because that would be good. Otherwise that would
but there aren't very movies, very many movies about cows.
I don't think behind the movies with Mike, because we've
wanted a lot of things. Want to talk about some
movies and interesting stories like we do on this or
maybe a year. This year, all these movies came out
as big Year from movies or he's a big movie nerd,
so big nerd over here, big nerd. We started doing
(06:04):
the geek minute today that we were doing I'm not
sure what I called it. I was like, I liked it, Yeah,
just letting Mike did geek out a little bit and
then he just he just he loses you. Sometimes you're like,
all right, too many numbers. Yeah, like I appreciate. We
went over one minute peeked out Caroline Hobby as a
podcast called Get Real with Caroline Hobby, and some interesting
was Chris Daughtry's wife is on and Chris Daughtry, who
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has a bunch of hits in the pop and rock world.
I guess what my understanding is he cheated at one
point and they talked about this in the podcast, very
open about that, and then she was like, all right,
I'm gonna get me a girlfriend. And he's like, all right,
and she did, and she did and they just lived open.
She had a girlfriend. While this is wild story checking out,
we're all okay with it's crazy. It worked out. So
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that's called get real with Caroline Hobby. So I told
my wife about that, and you're on the app and uh,
she said, no way, I got a lot of stuff.
Anything you want to say, no, man, we're good or
I'm good. All right, appreciate everybody. We're gonna start episode
right now here we go. Welcome to episode one. Bands
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that have had more than one lead singer today, we're
talking about fans, big bands. Uh, they've had more than
one singer, more than one front man. Why the original
singers left, whether it was creative differences, or they wanted
to go to the projects, or in some cases, if
the singers died. And we've gotten so much positive feedback
about episodes like this, they're heavily downloaded. That's awesome. We
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come on and talk about music like this. We love
doing it. Yeah, we just started doing it once. I
think because somebody bailed out of an episode, we're like,
oh crap, we don't have an episode this week Eddy,
let's talk about music, songs that make us ours And
then all of a sudden people were talking like crazy,
So we appreciate that. Whenever Dusty Slay was in The Comedian,
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he was like, you know what I really enjoyed, and
he had listed some interview episodes, but it was like,
I really like the one where you talked about songs
that people didn't know the meaning. And he goes, you know,
I heard the one about Phil Collins in the year
tonight and he didn't really have a reason he wrote
that song. He goes, what if he just got talked
talking about the real reason. I was like, screw this,
I wrote it for no reason I'm talking about it,
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which is possible. So what do we know? We just
know what we read. We have no idea. Some of
these I've heard from situations that I'm maybe not super
close to it, but I'm one degree away from So
someone like you trust in the inside that yeah, knows
about it. And I start with Phil Collins, and you know,
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Phil Collins was the lead singer of a band Genesis.
Right now before he was Um Peter Gabriel was the
lead singer of Genesis. So nineteen seventy six because they
replaced Peter Gabriel with Phil Collins. So this is Genesis
with Peter Gabriel. So Peter Gabriel left Genesis for a
solo career following nine. Do you know Peter gabriel solo
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song in your Rise? That's the that's the big one, right,
that's the big one. Yeah. So Gabriel left Genesis and
Phil Collins, who was the backing vocals and the drummers,
took over vocal duties will continue in too drum so
as he's doing that. And by the way, they were
searching for a lead singer while he was doing that initially,
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so let's go final lead singer and Phil Collins like,
I gets all this drum and keep singing when don't
we get it? And then he became the lead singer.
But what happened was, as that happened as well, Phil
Collins started to do a solo career at the same time.
So as Genesis with Phil Collins happened right behind it.
If they're running a race like a length and a
half behind, Phil Collins had started to do a solo crew,
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which made him this massive star because he had two
projects at the same time. Blowing up at the same time. Um,
and so what do you have from Phil Collins? Over there?
Do you have anything else? Now? Some of these that
may be confused, which one it is? If it's I
couldn't tell you, Okay, I would have been Phil Collins.
Oddly because of the voice, it's still Phil Collins singing it.
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How about that? Genesis based a tough decision with Phil
Collins quit the band, to carry on with a third
lead singer or call it quits. What do you think happen?
He called it quits the band the band and then
kept on with Phil Collins. Then there were no other
good vocalists in the band. They couldn't just go all right,
next up? So the keyboardist was tempted to call it
a day, but Mike Rutherford pushed the group to continue.
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The last tour they did stadiums. They felt that the
family loyalty wasn't up to carry him on. They brought
on a guy named Ray Wilson. Huh which Ray not Rain?
Ray Rain? From the off the group were unknown, but
they had inside. There was a minor hit in England.
It was nothing that anyone cared about. But if you remember,
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justice came back again, and they had that. They had
this the song where um it was with They're Walking
to the Beach. I yeah, I can't dance, Mike. It's
when Genesis came back. Remember that I do, because this
isn't my my, your eighties, Nope, nineties. Look up. I
can't dance because Genesis comes back. But I can't dance again.
This is not a prep sheet, Damn. I remember just
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standing selling. Neither Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins in this
band at this point. No, this is Will Collins. They
got back together and then they blew up. Man. I
mean I was little, so I remember all this stuff happening,
but I just figured the band never broke up. I
didn't know Phil Collins had his own side project. You
didn't know Phil Culture does something. You didn't know Phil
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collinures Phil Collin. I didn't even know who Peter Gabriel was,
but Phil Collins had bigger songs outside of I remember
what he looked like. I remember he was bald, and
remember he kind of looked well now now he kind
of looks like, um, the astronaut, you know, the astronaut
who takes lots of pictures in space. Kelly he's like
a I don't know he's famous. No, no, no no, he's
like a current astronaut that like lived up there for
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a whole year. Anyway, they looked the same, and I
just remember that look and like, yeah, he makes that
music and I think he's a drummer or something and
he sings. That's all I remember of Phil Collins in Genesis.
But you didn't know the Phil Collins like I didn't
know he wasn't feel it. I thought that was all
Genesis you did. Yeah. Again, I don't know the difference
about hearing them, but I guess I knew Phil Collins
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as Phil Collins before I knew the Genesis stuff. We
were so young, but that band had and then Peter
Gabriel was, you know, the big one, and it was
both of them went on that Peter Gabriel, what did
he do after everything? He had a pretty successful career himself,
I would say moderately successful. He had a massive hit
and your Yeah, but that was before we were born.
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Are you really seventy nine? Right? The song came out
seventy nine? What years this? Mike? I would bet do
you think it's eighties? If I'm betting money, I would
have been a lot, but I would think so. I
think it was like early mid eighties. Oh, you're probably right.
Let's see. No, let's see this song. He made me
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really question to myself. I remember it and I was going, man,
am I just I was four and I remember uncle's
talking about this stuff. You were teenager's crazy? All right,
stop fuck the inside and we've talked. This is the
the song that John Cusack plays and say anything when
He Holds was rereleased. Okay, Okay, I got it right then.
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I feel good about what we were running around. Okay,
let's go to Lone Star. Lone Star had John Rich
and Richie McDonald as co lead singers. John Rich also
played the bass. Okay, so you have John Rich who
now is in Big and Rich and Richie McDonald who's
now in well, lone Star. Okay, I thought there was
something else Brooks and Dunn. Is this John? So here's John?
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Are you hearing Lone Star? Leave living? Lone Star? Again?
And two? Did you know that the band was called Texassy? Texassy?
What does that mean? I'm looking at the spelling. It's
like Texas plus see. The name was derived from the
fact that all five members were natives of Texas and
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meta Nashville. So Texas c would be how to say it,
then Texas ce like like Tennessee. Yeah, not not easy
to read that and know what I'm talking about. That
that would be like the Eaters kind of like that
doesn't work. You can just see a bunch of record
people being like it's the Wonders. The original lineup consisted
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of Richie McDonald from Lubbock and bass and lead and
background vocalist John Rich from Amarillo. Well, they were right
right across streat from each other in towns. Shortly after
the release of Everything's Changed, John Rich left the band
as they and their advisers felt that having two lead
singers would be confusing to fame. So now this is
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all before Amazed, right, But to be fair, they both
went on and had super successful career. I mean to
be fair, and John Rich is still going. Yeah, And
I would say that if you're putting them in eggs,
which egg has the most in it? Currently that Big
and Rich wind lone Star one massive pop song and
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lone Star This was the number one pop song. That
Islands in the Stream was the only other country song
to be the number one song that's crazy. That's that's
a big song. This song hit and went number one.
It was came from country and then pop. So he
so John Rich misses out on that. He has to
be like, oh my god, yeah, just I just left
Lone Star and they have a massive commercial pop it
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and then even back it up a little bit. He's
probably thinking, you know, like this is gonna be good
for my career. Before this song, he's even the thought,
I just gotta leave the band. They don't like that
there's two lead singers. Whatever. I would do something myself,
and then he leaves, and right after he leaves, boom
they have them. And if we're to flip it, I
bet the guys in Lone Star again we're just assuming.
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I bet they were like John Rich and make a
pile of beans. He's out of here. Good for him,
he's a lot to deal with. Let's go see what
concoction he comes up with. And then boom, Big and
Rich blow up. They both did all right. Yeah, if
I were to jump on one of the sides, I
would jump on Big and Rich because there's longevity, and
that longevity more hits, not top hits. That they had
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a bunch of country hits, but Lone Star had two
lead singers. One of them left, John Rich went over
and did Big and Rich now did Lone Star. They
sing them on the road with Pearl jam. Uh, there's
a song. I'm pretty sure it's a Lone Star. It's
about a girl that like left her family to join
a rock band. It's pretty big. I know about three
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Lone Star songs, Mike, what are their big songs? Amazed?
I'm already there. Mr. Mom's three. I'm already there, looking
in and walking to I know four those. I guess
I know more. Yeah, I don't know the all jams.
The one I'm thinking about it not on there. I
don't know which one it is, but that's I mean,
that was me growing up, remembering Lone Star before Amazed.
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I'm already there was a jam. Which one was that one?
I'm already there. Oh yeah, yeah. Of the kids laughing
in the background, I had to whip away or two
from his I that's not John Rich, right. Little voice
came on the phone, said, Daddy, when you come home?
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He said. The first thing came to his body. I'm
ready there, say around what else? Do you have a spark?
Clups Mike, I don't want to waste any his clubs.
I'm let's sorry, I said, Okay, let's go over to
Black Sabbath. Can you name just Dauzy? Well, there there's
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more three. Wow, do you know them? I would have
gotten two of them, but I wouldn't have gotten the
third one. Black Sabbath it was massive. We know them
from Ozzy, but they got stronger when Ozzy was pushed out.
Remember they pushed Ozzie on before we were born. And
so the last few albums that they had put out
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with Ozzy Osboe were pretty disappointing, and new singer Ronnie
James Dio infused the band with an incredible new energy quote.
It says here he lasted two albums, and so here
they are again in search of a new lead singer.
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So again, this is Ronnie James d I would have known.
I've never heard this. This definitely is definitely different energies
than Ozzy. Black Sabbague a little harder, but less creepy,
less less less creepy, less less monster movie. It's less dart,
it's a little brighter, less satanic. Yeah, uh so Deep Purple.
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The band had folded at this point this is Smoke
on the Water. Yeah, smoke on the water, the fire
in this guy Dudna. So their vocalist Ian I didn't
know this one Ian Gillian Ian Gillen needed needed a job,
so it looked like it made sense. He came from
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Deep Purple. He goes over and there's a lot of
overlapping Black Sabbath and Deep Purple fan communities. But their
lone album together, Born Again, it didn't click and so
bad here you go sounds like Christma more Nell. So
could this Oh, they're they're supporting their their tour. They
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went out as was what kind of inspired spinal tap
to happen? They built a Stonehenge stage that was too
big for almost every venue they what they built for
the stage and of these venues, and so they had
to reform Deep Purple. So he remains there, uh to
this day with Deep Purple. So he was the third
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singer after Ozzie. So Ozzie first, then this other Guide
which by the way, Mike didn't he sing for another band?
Isn't he a famous rock singer? My film? Okay, that's
why I know him? And so then this guy Black
Sabbath limped along with another singer Tony Martin, ultimately reforming
with about Deo and Ozzie at various points in the future.
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So I am getting blown up right now. It's that
dating a man. I guess it's not the data app Life.
Turn that up, Mike. My phone is selling the pool.
So now I just ringed in the volumes off. Yeah,
(20:53):
that's why you heard it ring. I'm getting a new
one tomorrow. They're shipping it here because of insurance. But
my phone's never even know I was like, why is
it makeing a noise? Do you have that phone insurance?
I have that too, And they all sent me like
worst phones. This one will be a brand new good,
but make sure it was ringing. And I turned It's like, no, sorry,
you're broken. You You will now suffer the consequences of
breaking your phone. All right, let's let's get off that one.
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Let's go to something we know a little more about. Sublime.
Oh original least thing it was. His name was Bradley Noel. Yeah,
nice job. How you go back in the vault In
that one, Sublime form The band's lineup unchanged after their breakup,
Bradley Noel, Eric Wilson and the brad formed in the
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band form, So brad did a heroin overdose in he
died of It resulted in Sublime breakup. Bradley died before
their song went number one. This one crazy for that
album came Hug. The band broke up after his death.
Isn't it crazy that this was after he died. It's
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just like Jannis Choplin. She died before she ever got
to hear me and Bobby McGhee which Father wasn't her song.
She recorded it, but it was a Christen song, but
it blew up. Her biggest song was after she died.
I never got to hear it, or did they? Yeah,
they might have, but I mean I got to go
to the nice thing and you were like, got really
deep there this questions. Then two thousand nine, the band
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brought on Rome Ramirez, a longtime fan of the band,
as the new lead vocalist, but found they were legally
barred from using the name Sublime, which was still owned
by Braley Knowls estate. Eventually, the band renamed itself Sublime
with Rome. With Rome, however, fans hated him and said
he can't sing. They still continue to tour. Do we
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have a club of Sublime with Rome? I don't. I
ain't got a little Christmas live works as long as
you know it's not the original lead singer, I just
don't want to enjoin this works. So he was just
a fan. You know the other band that happened to
oh god, fan as a lead singer. Now it was
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a Journey. Yeah, yeah, So do you know the original
singer of Journey, Um Perry, Um, what's his what's his name?
Steve Perry? That was one beforehand got me. He walked
me right into that one too. Yeah, it's got named.
Greg Rowley was the lead singer, the Journey lead singer
in the first one, replaced by Steve Perry and then
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replaced by Steve Algerie and then later Arnel Pineta. Who's
there now? So Journey nine. Do you know what band
that they're from? Like, Journey was in a different band
and they broke out and created Journey. Boston Santana bandmates
in Santana. Really I did not know that. And Greg
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Rowley was on keyboards and lead vocals with Santana because
remember Santana didn't sing you're talking, yeah, you're yeah exactly.
He did. So when they would do songs, he would
singing this Greg Rowley, the guy who was the original
singer and Journey, he would sing for Santana. Was he
singing like the oyakomo, like the old sentence. I don't
know if that went specifically Black Magic Woman. But that's
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an interesting question that I don't know the answer too,
because I mean, I wonder how vocals on Black Magic
Woman just by itself, because that was a long time ago.
So I wonder if these guys were part of that
band in that sixties Santana because you were watching like
old woodstock footage in Santana plays like that band is
like the hippies. I mean, they're like long haired hippies.
They look like they're out of it. They're really high. Yeah,
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I could him, that's him. I'm a magic Woman. Wow,
that's Greg Roley, good call who was singing for Santana
Black Magic Woman went over. Was the singer of Journey,
and they all they all have the same sound like
he sounds a lot like well, I guess Steve Perry
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sounds a lot like him, you know, I think, And
we probably went to a C d C later. But again,
once you have an original lead singer, you kind of
find something that sounds ish to the original. So I
think they have the same sound on purpose, and I
think Steve Perry kind of existed because Greg Orrowley sound existed. First.
You don't want to go and find somebody that's a
big old baritone, right, sounds completely different than what you've
been sounding like for years. They hired Steve Perry to
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sing four years later, and they saw their popularity go pow,
Raleigh is him a black magic woman? But they said
Steve Perry had a great gift with pop songs. So
Steve Perry lost interest in the band. I was like,
you know what, I'm good. Lose interest is like, you
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know this is not for me. I'm gonna go on
and do nothing. Came back for a reunion and then
Steve Perry was getting sick and they were like, he's like,
I'm I'm out again, And so the band's like, well,
then what do we do? Is you gonna wait around
for him to get better? They didn't, so they brought
in uh, Steve aer fancy looked like Steve Kerry with
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a perm His name was even similar. Too many Steves,
too many similarities. So after a while I parted with him,
and then too many similarities sorry even the Steve. Sorry,
did you're too much like Steve? You probably should have
changed her name though, Like this is Sean. So the
band's like all right, And they came across this guy
on YouTube named Arnel pin YadA. He sounded exactly like
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Steve Ferry. I remember when this went down, small town version.
He was a band bones And I'm on YouTube how
many times is this guy singing karaoke bars and just
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kill it? Oh, go in and not say one before
before he got hired by the band, And they're just
like this guy's good man, Yeah, you sound just like
Steve Perry. Good job. I guess it's the greatest call
up to the majors from the karaoke bars to freaking
singing for the band. And is he still the singer?
That's he's still the singer. And people still want Steve
Perry to come back. What I think probably happens eventually
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Steve Perry comes back and they both are on stage.
Now you've met Steve Perry. Yeah, I was backstage American
Idol and Michael you back there, and Steve Perry was
on if not the finale, the next last episode and
I'm getting here and makeup done. We're probably thirty minutes
from the show and on my door, what's like comeing in?
I don't know. The guy was an old guy walked
in and I was like, what's up, b aald guy
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and he's like, well, there he is, the King of radio.
And I was like, thanks, old guy, how you do
the look around? I was looking at random senior citizens
stop by thinking about it. Thank you very much, old guy.
I hope you have a good day. He's like, all right,
good to see I'll see you out there. And I'm like,
old guy must be a fan of Mr Bones himself,
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king of radio. He called me all right, walks out,
walks down. Um, this screen comes on and we're watching it.
You know, I'm like four doors away from the set,
so I didn't go on it to like the second
act of the show. And I look at it like
I guess it's in the audience Steve Perry. It was
a freaking old guy came by my door. Not only
we'll see that old guy that came out the door.
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He thought, I'll drawing secret the best part. I love
it there he is like there he is. I was like,
I wouldn't call me that, but I won't say no
to it. I will take it from this nice, kind
old man. It was like, Pap, all right, get back
to see. I don't know how you wandered away from
you carry Giver, but you're like And that's how I
met Steve Perry, and that's how I became the lead
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singer of Journey. Have you ever seen I was talking
to mikea about this. You ever seen rock Star? No,
it's Mark Wahlberger. Yes, same kind of scenario where like
he's a huge fan of this metal van and the
metal the singer of that band just decides to quit
and then they hold auditions and he makes an audition
and he wows them and he becomes the lead singer.
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But it's the same storyline. It's I mean, the movie
is really good if you get a chance, but I didn't.
I didn't see it. I should watch it still, even
with everything out now, well, I mean, if you're bored,
got nothing to do, You've you've looked through Netflix. Nothing
interests you. If I've got no job, they've got no money.
I got nothing to do. A C d C massive,
A c d C things. You are massive. So I'm
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pretty well versed in a C D C hit and
I am not really. I know they had two lead singers. Well,
the original singer was Bond Scott and so he and
again you talk about singers, do you get that are
driven about the lead singer. You don't just gonna find
a really good singer. They gotta somewhat if you don't
like the band exactly like the same guy, but they
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gotta feel like that. That was the case with Bond
Scott and so you know they came out of Australia,
but Bonds, although it was the biggest and it was
really the first when they had blown up, there was
this dude, Dave Evans was kind of really the starter.
Before they kind of got going, Bon Scott became the guy.
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Bon Scott died in February. How did he die? Choked
on drinking from what I remember, they call it alcohol poisoning,
but one of those that vomited up and choked up
like he's asleep. So he goes back in his yeah,
and and they went hard and so that's how he died.
The group was struggling to find a lead singer because
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who else sounds like this? You gotta sound great and
had this kind of tone right, So a C d C.
There's a local guy named Brian Johnson who you will
know now as the lead singer. He's the one with
the beret hat, right or whatever is Ish Yeah, whatever
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happened however you call that and he's and he's ripped.
He's old now probably was Scott was ripped, was yeah,
um so, but Bond Scott wasn't when they got the
biggest success. I mean they had a couple of hits,
but it was all Brian Johnson and so all the
big stuff. It was definitely a higher voice, yeah, but
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still I mean he took off with that sound and
made even stronger. Local guy. Bond Scott has seen Brian
performing with his band and was like, hey man, that
guy's really good. So they went to Bryan Johnson. They
were like yo, dude, and so they recorded back in
Black as a tribute to Bond Scott. This the song.
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It was like this is this is for you and
it blows up. We heard the stories that English Young,
their guitar player, loses ten towns every night. No for
running around sweating that much. He has to drink a
ton of water. I always thought that he was the
lead singer just because you know, I always near the
school boy outfit. Yea. So they had their own section
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at Walmart. They were so big a c DC, like
of all their records, and you meant like they would
they would shop at their own section, or they would
go in and work their own sex interested. So he
recently with him, he was going deaf, and they were like, yo, dude,
you can keep touring, but you're gonna continue going deaf
and deaf and deaf and deafer, or you gotta call
it quits. And so he quit. So and they're older
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now too, obviously he's probably seventy. But so he was
losing his hearing. You know that happened to someone else
recently too in country where they're like, yo, you're losing
your hearing. Oh yeah, who was that? But so Axel
Rose replaced them and was singing with a c DC
for a while. I remember that. Really they didn't record
a record together, but he was touring and he for
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a c d C. Wow, similar voice. I get it.
Blank wanted to two. The original singer was Tom Along.
That's crazy. This seems like it's too soon to talk about.
Like well, Mark Hoppuss and Tom DeLong were the lead
singers and Tom DeLong left the band of They got
Matt Skibba from Alkaline Trio to replace them. I said,
you wouldn't know Alkaline for you. Yes, I remember them.
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Mark Coppiss and Travis Barker said we were all set
to play the festival and record a new album, and
Tom kept putting it off. A week before we were
scheduled to go in to the studio, we got an
email for his managers and he don't want to participate
in any blank one in a two projects. He would
rather work on his non musical endeavors. So I think
Tom has a different story too, right Aliens, Yeah, he's
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a big alien. Ye Blink wanted to replace him with
Matt from Alcolin Tree. It still looks so weird. They
got promo shots and you're just like that now though
they are altering the original three. Tom's out. Oh. I
thought Tom was back in for the reunion and they've
talked about it, but they haven't done it yet. So
I remember seeing Angels An Airwaves, which was a Tom DeLong.
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Yeah for Weezer. We went to Weezer for the middle
act and forgot about that project. DeLong confirmed that you
know he'd rejoined Blank Wanity too, but he hasn't discussed
it with the band. I saw Blank one two, all
the original ree in Vegas and that was like awesome. Wait,
so whenever they were hiring Blake one to two for Firefest,
(34:05):
that was not that was this? That's this one really
and they're doing I think in Vegas one of those
deals where you're sitting, you do multiple nights residency, and
that's Matt Skip them. Yeah. I wouldn't go to a
Matt Ski no, man, I'm telling you, like, or I
would have the Mark cop Is singing them all he does?
(34:26):
Does this guy sing it all? Though? I think? Really,
I think Mark sings most of it? Was like Barneked Ladies,
is this Do I have barneck lays on this? Or
should I talk freely about that? Barneked Ladies, you know
they want to a band I love. They had two
singers that Steven Page who was the singer, and Ed
who was the rapper, and the other two white dudes
(34:47):
and you know it's been one week, so who sings that? Even? Okay,
Stephen sings the hook right, and then Ed is taking
to China the Chinese chicken, and so they kicked Stephen
at the band. He hasn't been in a band forever,
and he came back for the Nadie and Hall of
Fame the Music Awards. So Ed sing is Stephen singing
in um the Big Bang theory. I think that's it
because they did that after Stephen left. I think I
(35:09):
would imagine but this is Ed here. But Ed now
sings all the parts today and all the songs sounds great. Yeah,
I can't tell the difference. He doesn't sing as wonderfully
as Stephen did, but it's still really good. And you're like,
all right, I'm with it, and he's an original member.
But they just have Ed now or they hated you,
remember that, you know what the bot was about. I
(35:31):
think it was just this is just me remembering. Could
be wrong. I think Stephen was like having a drug. Yeah,
that's a thing. That's the thing that happens a lot
in bands where they're just like, we've tried to really yea,
be patient with you, but we just can't anymore. We
can't move forward if you're pulling his back. A lot
of people don't know this, but the basis for you too.
He was that guy for that band. It's crazy like
(35:53):
basis in a heartbeat. Though they were all childhood friends.
So what do you do? You just play a base. Okay,
we're gonna move on without you. It's listen. It's a
little easier to cut someone who isn't the front of
the band, meaning the visual of the band. It'd be
harder to cut Edge Edges, not the singer, but Edges,
the guitar player. And you know him by seeing the band.
(36:14):
When you see Edge with the little hat on, you're like,
oh you too. When you see when you see Kurt
the Bassis or whatever, it is like, oh you do.
Even the Rolling Stones, you know, although they all kind
of look it's not Mick or Richard. They all look
like and they're they're they're all famous at this point
to but you got the drummer, you know what? We
(36:35):
just want put the camera back there to get rid
of the drum cam. We're good, Van Halen, Oh, this
is a good one. This is a good one. And
I also think that this is one where they didn't
really try too much to carry the sound. They were like,
how many how many singers? Three or four? Three? Well,
we'll go down the list here. If there were three,
(36:56):
there were three different stages of Van Halen. It all
sounded different. Davie Roll started. They really caught their groove
with Sammy Hagar, which was my favorite Van Helen, and
then Gary Sharron later replaced him. So from eighty five
a long time for a band, eleven years. It was
Eddie Van Halen, Eddie's brother Alex van Halen, David Lee Roth,
(37:19):
and the bassist Michael Anthony. So they're like, all right, Roth,
you gotta go, and Roth was like, I just solo
stuff anyway, and I think, you know, I remember correctly.
All of that was Eddie just being Eddie was hard Edie,
He's he's the lead, He's the it was. He was
always like, it's my band. Yeah, you're the face, You're
the lead singer. But I put you there. Yeah, yeah,
(37:46):
Davie Rob had swaggered before. It was really a thing. Dude,
like he his one. His voice was amazing. He had
this thing where he can like scream and it sounded
like his voice was doing two different notes at the
same time. I never heard that in my life. And
two he could do a jump and that was a
big part of Split Man in the Air. In n
(38:07):
van Halen replaced David Lee Roth with Sammy Hagar, who
was in a band called Montrose. I didn't know the
past band story, I didn't know whither. I thought he
was solo and they had so many hits that so
many has the Sammy Hagar. The band slightly shifted directions
a bit, yeah, and went from big time because Sammy
Hagar wasn't a flam like a very loud, flamboyant long
haired wearing and he had long hair, but he was
(38:29):
more like muscular power and a little more serious. Yeah, okay,
that's good. Internal disputes led to Sammy Hagar's departure. It's
always internal repute, of course, this is so good. Disagreed
with the decision to record two new tracks for a
great Distance album after after the band had agreed to
(38:50):
take off some time. So the end came when Eddie
Van Halen started to work with lead singer David Lee
Roth instead of Hagar again, and the two new songs
were made with the row on the Greatest Hits album.
This is while Sam's gonna brand the band. So yeah,
just a little shady. We don't know the real story
behind it, but you got a new lead singer we're
still working with you all one a little bit too.
(39:11):
I would be kissed. It's like being in a relationship
but you're still gonna have done with your ex boyfriend.
Not gonna happen. That's like, no, I'm out. So Van
Halen part of the ways with Davilye Roth again, and
then instead of hiring Haygar, the band hired Gary Sharone
who was in Extreme more than What Oh. I remember
when this happened to It's like what yeah. They were like, well,
we've replaced the lead singer before, what's it doing again?
(39:34):
Rock didn't work? So we upon that time this is
bad album just did nothing from that powerfull lead singer.
But the fans didn't even like. People weren't having it.
Gary Sharon left it for three years. Uh. Sam hey
I came back in two thousand four, and then David
(39:54):
Lee Roth returned three years later, and at one point
they were all doing a tour together. I think they
currently are if they're not, if they're done with the
shows they that was the last thing they've done well
because I saw them on KIM recorded music. Because I
know Sammy hey Gar still doing stuff with like his
Island band too. Yeah, something like that. It's funny that
(40:15):
you even know that. His island band, David Lee Roth's funny.
Remember we did California Girls. Don't remember because it was
like early early eighties. I remember, but dude, I was
a roller roller skating rink music. Yeah, yeah, can you
pull up davidly Roth California Girls or Mr and Just Jiggalo.
That was David Ross solo. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
(40:36):
California Girls was too. Yeah, you're right, Life goes on
without me? Yeah, God, no, there is this is California Girls.
Yeah solo, my dud ye just Jiggalo just did this
(40:58):
is like me just in the classic already he had
gloves in his he had gloves on. He's a video.
I remember this say about when he comes out. No,
it was just int come on, life goes on without me.
(41:19):
Everybody is yeah, nobody, nobody, nobody, very theatrical. He was
Fleetwood Mac who originally singer was Bob Welch. Al right, good,
I didn't know that. Placed by um Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie
(41:43):
Nicks and Stevie Nicks lots like Matt. I don't remember
the old one. This is a Good Stuff had lots
and lots and lots of lineup changes. In nineteen seventy one,
Bob Welch joined the group as a vocalist and guitarist,
but that was real short lin See Buckingham was asked
to join in seventy four and he made sure that
his girlfriend Stevie Nicks could come along and going wow,
(42:05):
that's how she got in, and that's when Fleetwood Max
sort of have to success. He got in and they
brought his girlfriend's random girlfriend. It's pretty good, but she's
just a girlfriend, right, throw her in. It's like trained
football player, let me get cashing sentenced to She was
imagine the band too. They would just be like, oh really, dude,
your girlfriend great, here we go, Yoko part Fleetwood Mac
(42:27):
at a low point in nine. Earlier that year, the
Rumors lineup reformed play Bill Clintons inaugural Bash, but they
could not even with that that pop like each other
enough to stay on the road. Mick Fleetwood and John
mcvee mckbye brought in year old Becky Bramlin's her job
(42:47):
wants to play Stevie Nicks and Billy Burnett played the
Lindsay Buckingham role. So it was the band without those two.
But they try to get two people to do that,
that's weird. It looked like a tribute band, and they
found themselves in bad places, for example, like opening for
Ario Speedwagons. All right, hang around. Heard it from a friend,
(43:10):
so that was a story that different lead singers. Queen, No,
this is Adam Lambert, the original lead singer, Freddie Mercury,
and they and they've made this work, not for new hits,
but for existence and touring. Somehow they've made it work.
You're right, and Adam Lambert is great, a great singer.
You would think that nobody could happen with Freddie Mercury
(43:32):
and do what Adam lamb I mean, he could be
the greatest of all time, Freddie Mercury, to feel that
void that could be. I think him dying helps in
the case of he's the greatest, because no chance to
really not be. You watch the Queen, I'm not okay, no,
I'm not. You would like it. You wouldn't love it
because it moves a little too fast. And I've heard
(43:52):
that the band you can kind of just tell the
band kind of lead the way. Well, it was their project, right,
might and at one point, though, early on, they scrapped
the original versions because the band wanted to make it
all about them without Freddy American. That's just crazy, that's
what Sasha Baron Colin was playing Freddy, really, and they
wanted Freddy Mercury to die in the middle of the
(44:13):
movie and then then carry on going on without him,
and he was like, it's terrible. I'mount like done watching this.
You would like it, but it just jumps quickly. They're like,
all right, we're gonna form a band. Well, we gotta
be called Queen. What we get to go on top
of the pops tonight and trying to find people just
like that, and then tomorrow we're playing the State. Wow.
(44:35):
And it didn't happen like that, but the movies say
they had to like rush it. But Adam Lamberg joined
in two thousand twelve, and they were careful to call
themselves Queen plus Adam Lambert to illustrate that Mercury was
a one of a kind singer. But eventually did though,
right because now they're just Queen. They were here not
(44:55):
too long ago, and I thought a t shirts they're
literally called them there, aren't they We're all here we
saw them in in Vegas. Do you do did you
watch that show? You're too busy? We do those shows.
I don't get because we just shot some promos for
our already a music festival and they were like, what
do you think of this performance? I guess I don't
see anything. I'm working the whole time. I'm back on
the whole back stage. They're like, okay, well, can you
say something? I'll make something up. I didn't. I made
(45:18):
up like four stories. They were shooting this TV special
and they were like, okay, so I'll just make up
two names. They were like the time that you saw
Taylor Swift and Tiesto, they didn't play together, and that
was like fictional character, all right, and Eddie shooting it
by edded buying the camera and they're like in action.
I was like, yeah, man, it was a hot summer day.
I remember I looked down and there was beats a
(45:39):
sweat on on my towel, so the artist really had
to be hurting too. And Taylor walked by and she
was like, can you believe this heat? And I looked
at it and I was like, I feel you, Taylor,
and she kept walking and it was a really exciting
night because Taylor and Tiesto had never played together, and
so everyone was kind of gathering towards the stage to
watch this epic collaboration of Taylor, Swift and Tiesto. But
the air condition was on the entire arena and we
all worried, well Taylor even make it. And three seconds
(46:00):
before the show started, and Taylor comes out and just
nails the performance, and everyone everyone in the crowd, and
then the crowd was Tim mcgawls, all the Eagles. Yeah,
it was with the ghost of Freddie Mercury. Everyone was
watching and at the end, everybody put their fists in
the air like you did a Taylor. One of my
favorite performances ever. I made up stories like that Taylor
(46:22):
and this show that never happened. But I didn't create
fake shows. I just I guess all the it's all
about entertainment, you know, I get it. I get it. Well,
I I saw them. I saw Adam Lambert play with
Queen and it was cool. It was I mean, very
low expectations because I mean, obviously it's I mean, it's
not Freddie Mercury, but it was good to see Adam
(46:44):
Lambert kind of just be himself up there, and it
wasn't trying to be Freddie Mercury. He wasn't trying to
hit those crazy notes that Freddie Mercury did, So it
was it was cool. He was definitely playing himself rather
than just replacing a spot, which I guess works for
when you call yourself queen with Adam Lambert. Yeah yeah,
well how long has it been? My long one? Almost
(47:04):
fifty minutes? Look at that? Pretty good? Do you go good? Atty?
I feel good? Did you? I guess the Beatles don't
really fit in that. Huh. New lead singers, different lead singers,
but not no one replaced anyone. They had two lead singers.
I think that's a whole different thing. Yeah, well they
all sing. Yeah, I guess you're right. Like Ringo sings
in like Yellow Submarine. I'll get by these sings in
(47:26):
that one little help from my friend, Here comes the sun.
So they're be surprised. Why did you like be surprised
that I know what Beatles sing? What songs? I didn't know.
We'll see my mom and I we'd always play a
game of like we listen to Beatles and be like,
all right, who's singing this one? I try to do
that with my kids, and they're like, who cares? All right,
who's this one? Who cares? Jimmy Jimmy Dad, there's no
(47:50):
Jimmy sign in the Beatles. Come on, do your kids
have a favorite YouTube person? The kid Ryan, Yeah, that's
their favorite YouTube person. Um. Again, check out Eddie's podcast store.
Losers is a sports show and he's not getting checks. Yeah,
and we get checked his advertisers by the shows, advertisers
by the shows because you guys download them when we
(48:11):
go Loo, how many hundreds, thousands or millions of downloads
we're getting and we're actually getting people that want to
advertise with us. It's awesome because once you hit a
certain level, they're like, oh yeah, like oh people listen
to that podcast. Okay, listen. We can't believe it either. Um.
Thank you very much and I think we'll call that
call that a rap on the episode. Thanks for another
good lesson. Man. I learned a lot on that episode
one nineties six. Thank you very much, See you next time. Everybody,
Host
Bobby Bones
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