Bobby and Billy Dukes from Taste of Country talk about their list of the Top 10 Hottest Country Artists of 2020 and why each artist ranked where they did. Bobby does a collaboration segment with Movie Mike and they both review the movie Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox story which is a parody of the biopic movie genre that came out in 2007. SPOILER ALERT: They talk about the movie in detail...but it’s a comedy movie based on another movie so nothing really to spoil -- but just in case! Don’t get mad at us.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And welcome to episode to forty nine, where at the
end of this Eddie might e d and I will
review the movie Walk Card The Dewey Cox Story. It's
an old movie, but it's a music movie. I've never
seen it, thought it'd be funny. So if you haven't
seen the movie, you still might like listen to the
review because we're we're kind of dumb. But if you
haven't seen it and you want to watch it, maybe
go watch it then come back to the end of
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this podcast. But we're gonna put it at the end
in case there are spoilers in there too, right, Mike
a little bit, But that's not a movie. It doesn't
matter if it's spoiled. It's not like some crazy ending. Yeah,
there's nothing you can really spoil it, So check that out.
Check the movie out. Um. Also, we'll talk to Billy
Duke's coming up from Taste Country on the top ten
Hottest Artist, kind of go through that. Billy Duke's smart
guy like him, have him on to talk about that
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music Headlines of the Week Live Nation is trying to
get artists to take pay cuts for concerts and festivals
next year. In a memo obtained by rolling Stone, Live
Nation sites unprecedented times and quote the exponential release excuse me,
the exponential rise of certain costs as reasons for adjusting
payment policies. That's interesting because they're gonna have to pay
a lot more to make make sure things are safe
(01:07):
and clean. Then they thought they would let me read
more about this. Most of the new policies shift financial
burdens to the artists. For example, the company wants to
decrease the monetary guarantees promised to artists before an event.
Across the board. Live Nation also says that if a
concert is canceled due to poor ticket sales, it will
give the artist of the guarantee. Well, that's interesting, and
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I think I'll speak on this as also a performer.
I work with these promotion companies, promoters all different ones.
I think as long as books are shown, people can
make wise decisions about business they're doing together. And it's
not that I don't trust Live Nation or an artist,
but I would like to see if I'm someone that's
has has agreed to a tour or agreed to you know,
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three or four shows or even a show, I want
to see those costs and why I'm gonna take mine
down on the on the Cancel's great for an artist.
They still get paid even if they don't sell tickets
because people don't want to come. Let's say this twenty
they're they're guarantee twenty bucks. Um, they're probably a lower
act would be guaranteed about ten to fifteen thousand, unless
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it's a baby act. On a big tour, they're about
five to five thousand and seventy. A lower act tend
that big acts or the hundreds of thousands dollars a night.
So you're talking about that's a nice little little give there.
But that's interesting. I never thought about the fact that
it's gonna cost more to put on shows, So I
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think as long as they show their books a little bit.
I don't know why an artist would say no to that,
because everybody's gonna lose some money here. Everybody and no
party promoter or artist should benefit and the others should suffer.
You should kind of all be in this together in
a way. Interesting. Let me think about that some more.
Maybe do a whole podcast on that would be the
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most worring podcast ever. Just open up a book. Now
that the whole country is protesting, raging against the Machine
is actually back on the charts. The band's self titled
debut album landed back on the Billboard two hundred. It
reached number eight on the iTunes Top Album charts as well.
Do we have any rage? I can put them up.
This is right in my gut from back in high
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school more so than college. I guess it was like
ninth and tenth grade. I would have someone send me
a tape of the Edge in Dallas. They'd hit record
play and just tape like an hour, and the flip
to tape tape an hour, and I get a lot
of rage in that. Yeah, I was a big rage guy,
but I didn't really know why. I just like the sound.
I didn't really know what they were protesting at the time.
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By the time I started to know, I started to
get older and getting college and they started to fall
off a little bit and do their own things. But
now I look back pretty cool. Uh, this is one
of my favorites. What else do you have? All right,
so we're limited in the rage music. Uh ACN has
secured a six billion dollar contract to build a con City,
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a futuristic cryptocurrency theme city in Senegal. Along with having homes, malls,
and a power plant. Acon city will have all the
amenities of city needs, including schools and a police station.
Pretty baller. Some people have buildings, he has a whole city,
like super futuristic? Does this ever actually happen? Though? I
don't know the guy who did smack that now has
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a city? And is he the king? Is he just
there's king? Yeah? What? Because if he's not, he's still
who the city is named after. And then if he
does something really bad in his older life, like commits
a bad crime, you have to change the name of
it because they don't want to name the city after.
Like you're not seeing anything Bill Cosby elementary schools. It's
still remaining in play. Not that he would do that,
but I'm saying, you know, he commits fraud Martha Stewart style.
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Do you have to change the name of the city. Uh? Finally,
dashboard CONFESSI s old singer Chris Corraba suffered to be
her injuries in a motorcycle accident. Luckily they weren't life
threatening and he expects to make a full recovery. I
was watching the video of him in the hospital bed.
You see it. Yeah, that's sad looking. Yeah, it looks
pretty terrible motorcycles. Just never had the need to get
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on a on a motorcycle. He's a motorcycle guy, though
he looks cool riding a motorcycle. He lives in town.
He lives here. Oh, I've never seen him riding, and
I just said, like he he's the kind of guy
that will look cool riding a motorcy like all the tattoos,
like the good looking face. If you have those two things,
the tattoos in the face, it's pretty good to go.
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But he's what happened to him? Do you know? I
don't know he had a car car hit him. I
don't even think that he hit anybody. I think he
just fell Rookie. Here's the one thing. I've never wrecked
a motorcycle. I don't think I've ever been on while
driving it. Though I've never wrecked a motorcycle. Uh, let's
talk about new music before we get into this. I'm
just really it's really weird about even building statues after
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people who are still alive. It's always a tricky thing
because they do something that's not so good. They could
they what do you do? Take the statue down? Wants
to wait on your statue. Then yeah, I personally don't,
but like I wondered in my town, there's a Sciences
boyhood home Bobby Bones. If I do something bad and
I go to jail today ripped that down. I don't
want that pressure. New music out today. We have five
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songs we want to share with you. Here, m hmm,
I got like seven. Let me see what I put
in my top five. At number five, Nikita Carmen, who's
a fantastic new artist. She put out a new song
called Better. Here's a clip of that happy. At number four,
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Josh Turner announce he's putting out a new country cover album.
He released a cover of Country State of Mind featuring
Chris Jansen. By the way, this is a Hank Junior cover.
You know Country Spain, Kitchens fish Like They're going out
of style drinking Home. At number three, I'm a top five.
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Gabby Barrett put out her record that's called gold Mine.
You can check out the whole record. Here's a song
called Write It on My Heart. Rascal Flats put out
a new song called how They Remember You, And here's
a clip of the Rascal Flats new song what You
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Choose Remember Me? There it is in the number one
song this week. Garth Brooks has a new song called
we Belong to each Other. We been long to each Other,
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were sister and brother like Hawaiian Garth Brooks. That's your
top five. I recommend checking out Eric church Tez to
have new music earlier this week to his fan club.
So there you go. New albums that aren't country. Black
Eyed Peas have translation Phoebe Bridgers. I don't know who
that is, do you? Yeah, she's like indie artist. Yeah,
I figured you would figure That's why I was on
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the list. Punisher, Bob Dylan, Rough and Rowdy Ways, Michael
Fronti and Spearhead or Hard to Be Nice. Lamb of
God has an album. Switch Foot has an album Trapped.
Remember Trapped. They had one song Herd Strong, Herd Strong,
hurt Strong. Remember that? Oh yeah, there is It's jam.
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They're a one hit wonder like crazy right and I
film song in here I forgot about and I forgot
her out him. But I mean that was a pop
song too. Mr Sommer, No, no, no. Then well they
have an album out trying to get that second hit,
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that all elusive second hit, Headstrong too. That's what they
should do. Head strong again. All right, let's get into
this podcast. We'll talk about with Billy Dukes. We'll talk
about the big biggest country music artists the week, and
then we review a music movie at the end of this.
Thank you guys. All right on now is Billy Dukes
from Taste of Country. And I was looking at this article, Billy,
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and I was gonna come on to talk about it,
but I thought, why not get you on since you're
you run the site and helped contribute to this article.
Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, so appreciate it. Um team,
you know, it's country team. But I was the one
who kind of headed it up, yeah, because I was
looking at it and I thought it was an interesting
article because you know, there isn't a right answer. It's
everybody kind of putting their opinion in. And I thought, well,
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there's nobody that listed as a writer. So we came
to you. How does that work when you guys all collaborate,
You guys get in a room or I guess you
can't get in a room now though, with Corona, do
you just send out emails or take a poll of
what's going on? We're big on flack kind of all
day long. I mean, that's kind of how we worked
usually anyway. We have writers based in Texas and out
in the Western Tennessee, and until recently a writer in Buffalo,
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So we've always sort of worked via Slack and emails
and occasionally we get on a conference call as well.
But the modern way, I suppose, Well, these are country
music's top ten artists. Now I may not agree with
all of them with you, but I think it's fun
to kind of talk through them. Number ten, you guys
have Sam Hunt. So talking about Sam Hunt while you
made the list, well, I mean this really could have
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it and might still be sort of a comeback here
for Sam Hunt. I mean, it was a long time
ago that he released Montevello, and he had the new
south Side album which did debut at number one. Um,
he had a big tour planned and in some ways
this this whole year is kind of a theoretical year
since all the tours got canceled. But he was looking
to have a pretty good tour with Kit Moore and
Travis Denning that I think was going to sell a
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lot of concert tickets. Um, I'll just forget I think
is the big thing for Sam. I just think that's
a monster of a song, and it's proven to be digitally,
had sold a lot of copies and it sounds really
really good on the radio. You know what's funny about
Sam is I think he and probably Ashley McBride got
screwed over the worst by Corona as far as it
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was time for them to put their stomp down. Sam
again because he's been gone for so long, and Ashley
really for the first time with the general public like
people actually, uh, they're just country music sort of fans
knowing who she is. I felt like they both If
I were picking who got hurt the worst as far
as breakout years, it would be Sam to rebreak and
then Ashley McBride to really have our shot. But it
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doesn't mean they're not going to break back anyway. But
I felt like they were both really poised. Number nine
you have Keith Urban. Yeah, Keith. I mean I really
kind of expected Keith to be higher going into this.
I didn't realize that he hasn't really toured in America anyway,
and um really since so that's certainly affected things. Uh
the Grassini U album. I would bi Keith Urban fan.
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I think his albums are fantastic, but it didn't really
stick commercially like maybe some of his other ones have.
The new music he's working on, though, I think it
is doing really well. Um, when God Whispered Your Name
is one of my favorite songs of the year so far.
We were a pretty big hit and um and then
of course he's hosting the A c M. So I
think that's gonna lead to a really big fall into
winner for Keith. Yeah, this song is my favorite Keith
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Urban song in a long time. I like like soft
Keith Urban. That's my favorite Keith Urban. When I can
like poke it and it feels soft and loving, that's
my that's my favorite Keith Yeah, you know, yeah, I'm
going with you. I like that. Like when he gets
pretty experimental as well, like the Pitball collaboration from a
couple of albums ago. I could get down with that
for a bit. My guess is that the A c
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M s will not happen so he I think he'll
end up posting a thing like doing with c M
A Fest now because with c M A Fest the
actual show, but they were gonna have that, I was
gonna host it. It got ripped away because of obviously
they're not having the festival at all. So now there's
a virtual thing where they're playing old episodes. Um, but
a c M S are alive thing with a bunch
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of folks in the room. What is that supposed to
happen in September October? Billy? Do you remember, uh, September
somewhere in their mid September. I can't see them getting
a thousand, five thousand, ten thousand people in a room
at that point, just just guessing. Can you agree? No,
I'm with you. I mean, I think they gotta do
something because they got to give out those trophies, don't they.
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I think the trophy, you know, and it's a weird
year to give trophies. I mean with CMA is coming
up in November. Uh. We were talking on the show
Who's gonna be? Who would you consider for Entertainer of
the Year during and you know, I would say Entertainer
years never award that has actual guidelines on it. It
can be someone who tours or has hits or dust
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things outside of uh of just music. And I think
when you look at that Keith Urban, who was one
of the first guys to go and play shows, doing
these these drive in shows for first for the you know,
frontline workers. I think Garth has to be considered at
how he's he's not doing the live shows, but he's
doing three drive in theaters at once. He's you know,
done a couple of TV shows. So I think Entertainer
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of the Year as we're talking about a c M
S or c M AS, I think it's going to
be looked at a bit different this year when you
hear that, who would you put in that list of
Entertainer of the Year this year? Well, I would add
artists like maybe Thomas Rhett and Luke Combs only because
they've they've handled the digital elements so well, like they've
consistently released new songs on Instagram, TV or through YouTube
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in the case of Luke Combs, and they've kind of
done that, whereas well Dark those digital pretty well too.
But you know that's sort of a new generation, is
the new version of the live show. At number eight
on the list, someone that I I almost put in
that Sam Hunt Ashley McBride is Dan and Ship because
it was and I'm you know, close to both those
guys that are like legitimate friends and I know for
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them they were finally playing arenas this is two guys
who were never supposed to make it according to everyone,
who were to everything that wasn't country. They got together,
started writing, were always told no, no, no, and they
have just hit so hard and they were finally headlining
arenas and I remember seeing Dan's message. I think they
were outside of arena going we can't do it. We
got to call it off and they were just had
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hit such an apex and now uh not able to go.
But they're at number eight on your list. Yeah, and
I'm with you. I I had Dan and Shay as
the artist probably hit hardist by the coronavirus for those
exact reasons. Um, I think that stadium or that arena
tour was gonna be huge, and I think we would
have had more music from them by now. Um, and
they've been so consistent with the quality of songs these
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last few years. I think, uh, they we have had
some great new music from them from now to kind
of drive that tour, but also huge on Spotify, and
they got a ton of ATM nominations leading up in September,
So I think they arguably would have been top five
had we not had the COVID nineteam shutdown. Isn't it
a while to think that a lot of artists are
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holding off a bit on putting out music. But when
things start to track back, which it could be next
year before we really get back into I mean, I
think it's gonna take a vaccine for people to just
rip and roll. You know, you're gonna see spots of
people touring in some place, and there are some parts
of the country where they said hey and told me, hey,
we can play shows at casinos, And for me, I
don't feel comfortable playing shows right now, um at all,
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but some is gonna But I don't think it's all
happening everywhere until there's a vaccine for for COVID, for corona,
whatever you gonna call it. But at the same time,
you're gonna see everybody releasing new music at the same time.
That's wild to think about, could be really nuts. And
then leading into next year, my thought is that every artist.
Initially my thought was every artist who're gonna play one
venue sized down so that it's gonna be really hard
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to play stadiums, and Kenny Chen he's going to try
next year. But then if you're arena artist, you're gonna
do maybe smaller arenas and then from there because people
they're not gonna be as eager to go to the shows.
And I think getting people to allow shows in certain
parts of the country, You're not gonna be able to
go into southern California or New York or Boston or
some of these major metropolitan areas because you're seeing COVID
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go up and regard of how you believe people should
handle it, you know, there are certain rules that some
cities are just holding tight on um, you know, with
I don't think again, I don't think the cm are
gonna happen in Nashville. I don't have any inside knowledge.
I'm on the board of the a c MS, but
they don't tell us trap like that. But I can't
see them putting five thousand people in a room though,
do I mean for anything? Can you? No? No, I can't.
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I know Nashville has open back up, and I'm watching
the number of cases every day, and I see him
going up and up in Tennessee, and it's a little scary.
Jason al Dean's at seven talk about Jason. Jason is
like the most consistent artist really of the last ten years.
I think he's probably been somewhere between uh three and
number seven on this list every year. This is the
first year we've done it, but he would have been. Um.
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He continues to be one of the biggest live draws.
He sells I think over sixteen and seventeen thousand tickets
the show, and he plays a lot of shows um Spotify.
He's not a big streaming artist compared to like the
Dan and Chase and the Marion morris Is of the world.
But We Back and Got What I Got have both
been solid songs. I don't think the nine album has
produced maybe that sort of signature song in terms of
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a radio single quite yet. Um, but they've both been
solid number one hits. And then of course he's kind
of become viral with his wife Brittany Aldan on Instagram.
I mean, she makes some kind of a really fun
celebrity to watch as well. You know, she actually makes
him a bit relatable because you see the human side
of Jason Aldean, who's kind of that country rocker with
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this image that you don't get to peek behind the
curtain until Brittany kind of came into the picture. Yeah,
they're super fun to watch, I think on Instagram, I
think they're they're cute. I don't know if we would
have said Jason Aldean is cute to watch. I don't
know that still would say that, but yeah, you're right,
it does bring an extra element to Jason. That's funny. Uh.
Number six is Marion Morris on your list of the
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Hottest Country Artists? Yeah, and I really hate that man
is the only female artists represented on this list. Um Miranda,
I think I could have argued to made the list
pretty easily. But Marin is just huge on Spotify. She's
a really successful artist streaming. Um. The Bones is a
much much bigger song that I think anybody could have
possibly imagined. It's held down number one, I think for
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like fifteen weeks now. And she's also developed not only
a really big touring artist in terms of like being
able to sell tickets, she's really gotten good. I mean,
you've probably seen her a number of times over the
years like I have, and you know, she kind of
found her way on stage and she can kind of
filled up some of those bigger stages and she's just
a great live performer nowadays. And The Bones I'll flip
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over sometimes on satellite and I can hear the one
hundred or I can hear the pop station and the
Bones is playing on pop radio too, which you know,
we haven't seen a lot of artists other than Dan
and Shay and a little bit Sam crossover. I don't
know if there's been a female Has there been a
female crossover really in the last five or six years, Um,
Kelsey hasn't really. I mean she was on a Chain
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Smoker song, so you're right. I don't count Kelsey crossing
over because she was on one of their songs. But yeah,
Kelsey and Miranda hasn't. No, I mean maybe if you
if you want to count be Rexa because that song
crossed over country. Yeah, I don't know, but the country up.
So my point is good for Marion, like she's doing
it and I think she's, you know, still achieving so
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much at a time where people are kind of chilling back.
I think we're having that baby was was was awesome.
The timing was like, you don't you never want a
pandemic to happen, But if I were gonna have a baby,
I'd have a baby at a pandemic when you're locked
in the house the whole time, you know, perfect. Yeah,
it was out perfectly for Kane Brown's at number five. Yeah,
I think Karen, Kane and Marion are really pretty close. Um,
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Kane's got one more album that sort of sticks around
on that album chart. Homesick is all over the radio.
That song still sounds good and it's what a year old.
Two years old had a big tour this year, and
he has all that crossover success, I mean the my
Smallow song, John Legend song, and he's done a few more.
He continues to prove he's well on his way to
becoming a legit not only male Outists of the Year contender,
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but Entertainer of the Year contender, and probably a few
years it's gonna be weird to watch kind of the
shift and Entertainer of the year because in country music,
the entertainers of the year don't go away, meaning as
they get older, they dig in and it's harder to
move them out. It's not like people retire over here.
You're not gonna see Luke Bryan and Al Dean retire.
But then you have the Kane Browns and the the
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Luke Combs and the Thomas Rhets. They're just almost too
many superstars to have them all in that category, you know. Yeah,
and Kane's kind of been snubbed from the awards, so
who knows when he'll actually kind of get his shot.
But I see Luke and Luke Combs and and Thomas
rhet are both in the entertainer category for the A
c N S, So that's kind of a dramatic shift.
Two newbies in out of five, which rolls is over
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to number four is Thomas Rhette talk about tr Yeah,
be a light Man. That's going to be one of
the songs of the year and not only kind of
defines this time, it's just a really great collaboration. And
that came Wow, Beer Camp Fix was nearing number one.
Um quietly he's become a really huge live artist. He
sold some seven hunds of thousand tickets last year, and
I think that Entertainer of the Year not really kind
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of gave him a leg up maybe on the King
Browns of the world to give him them before in
this list, well, the A c M s are a
bit more progressive. I know Thomas one Thomas Routt one
Male Vocalist of the Year a couple of years ago,
and that was a big deal because that was the
first time that someone had broken through in that category
in a while. So it's always interesting to watch the
two award shows because the A c M s are
a few years ahead or a bit GUESSI and the
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c M as or maybe a year or two behind.
At times when you see people like Dan and Shaye
miss and miss and then hit after they probably already
should have hit. H Jayson L. Deane, I mean kind
of defined that for a while he would win the
A c M Entertainer of the Year and he couldn't
sniff a nomination. Yeah, that's a good point to see.
Blake Shelton is the number three. What he got about Blake?
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Blake seems to be making a comeback of his own.
I mean, he's never really left because he's been on
the Voice the whole time. But this God's Country sort
of mini album. God's Country obviously a great song. The
Gwen Stefani duett was obviously huge, but really some of
those more memorable songs over the last five or ten years.
My favorite story about Blake is that he retweeted a
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woman or replied to him when on Twitter who had
a book inspired by her late daughter, and then that
book shot up to like top five on like three
Amazon book charts. He's just really really influential. Well then
we get to number one and number two and they're
both Luke's. Now I wonder was this close at all
or not? Yeah, I think we really debated between the
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two of them, and it's kind of back to like
what you're talking about with regards the entertainer of the years,
you have sort of that old guard that sits in
those top spots. Um, Luke Combs I think analytically, if
you looked at the numbers, is just a little stronger.
His albums I think are in the top two or
three every single week in terms of the charts. Um,
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every song he puts out as a hit and memorable,
and he's become a great touring artist. Luke Bryant has
American idol uh and probably draws more fans per show live. Um,
how do you choose between them? I think altimately we
kind of went with the numbers and this we try
to be analytical and objective, and that meant in some
cases maybe leaning more into the numbers. So that's how
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we kind of add up with Luke Combs at number one.
So Luke Bryan's at number two, and I'm gonna read
some of what you wrote here what was written. No
one on this list sells more concert tickets than Luke Brian.
He's the stadium act with a strong foothold of country radio,
even if his albums don't hold the same clout as
some others before or after him. And again, I'm assuming
you guys are adding in things like American Idol and
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you know, just like Blake with the voice, like things
other than just songs on the radio or songs that
are streaming. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I think that kind
of adds to their overall heat, if you will. Number one.
Luke Combs, boy, I tell you I haven't seen a
guy he's been. He has been the unicorn for me
and my seven eight years in town. Like you know,
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Sam hit hard early and did what he did. But
Sam was a reluctant star. Um, Luke, I don't know screams. Hey,
I knew I was going to be a star, one
of be a star, but I haven't. He's just so
undeniable all the time and everything he does. I have
not seen anything like a Luke Combs trajectory, have you know,
especially in terms of how easy he makes it look
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like all of his songs sounds so easy, and I
know they're not. They're well written songs, um, but he
does have sort of that swagger. I talked to one
of the writers of Beard Never Broke My Heart, and
he more or less admitted that Luke Combs knew it
was going to be kind of a career song song
for him when they wrote it, and that was well
before we've ever heard it on the radio. So he
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does sort of have this swagger about him and no,
but he still comes off as a really kind of humble,
nice guy when you talk to him. And people that
do it really well always make it look really easy.
You know. Uh with Luke, you're like, man, he's writing songs.
I feel that way. Man, How does he do that?
It seems so easy? That's because he's so good, you know.
I think Sam is a guy too who writes songs
(25:54):
like that. Obviously Sam kind of checked out for a while,
but body like a back road. If I hear one
more person say, man, I could have written that song,
then why don't you freaking write it? You can't write
it because it just it sounds so easy. But how
Sam writes is Sam will take four days on a song.
He'll write a song for five or six hours and
then come back into it days and days and days after,
and it's the it's the minutia of a song that
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especially like a song like that that really made it pop.
I think Luke and Samer are a lot of like
in that way. So who would have been your number one?
I agree with most of everything you wrote, maybe the
maybe the order is not the same, but I'd have
put Luke Combs at one with Luke it two. The
only person that I felt was honorable mention or maybe
you could have jumped in, was someone who doesn't have
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the numbers but has so much momentum is Morrigan Wallen
like as far as far as like hits and momentum
and like undeniable, maybe just an honorable mention like that
guy is legit songwriter, singer, performer, like he has the
three things to be a country star, and he also
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has that real you understand that who five minutes with
him or watching a clip you know who Morgan Walla did.
Wallon is instantly and it's not manufactured at all. So
I don't know if he makes top ten. I think
you guys did a great job on the list, which
is why I wanted to get you on. But I
think Morgan Wallon was the one that for me, I
was like, oh, that's a close one. Yeah. I think
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early on we we decided to full kind of focus
on arena headliners, which was a tough choice all on
its own because there's so many kind of younger artists
that just have a lot of what you would call he.
I mean, Ashley McBride certainly does, and and some others
who are even newer. Morgan Wallen, it's certainly right there.
I mean he he kind of checks all the boxes
and I think with another album or two, he's going
to be a real headliner. All right there. He is
(27:40):
Billy Dukes from Tasting Country. Check out the site. I
love the site. Rate it constantly on Twitter at Billy
Dukes on Instagram at serious Journalist. Well that's the role.
Switch up a name, Billy, what what you don't want
to go? Billy Dukes on Instagram. So I didn't become
Instagram hip until kind of fairly recent me. I had
like my personal Instagram, which was just like family photos,
(28:03):
and I finally decided I need to get with it,
and I think there was already a Billy Dukes on Instagram.
So I used a hashtag that I often sees on Twitter,
and we was serious journalist, because often I'm not very serious.
Did you guys consider Chesney for this list because he's
had some radio hits, obviously he's doing the big old tour.
Did you consider him at all? Yeah? He was on.
(28:25):
Certainly one of the artists we talked about. I mean,
I know he's got a big stadium tour, but um,
you know that the album and the songs aren't quite
as iconic as they used to be. A debut at
Number one argued that was because a lot of those
albums were attached to the concert tickets. Um, I'm not
sure he's so much in the moment is maybe some
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of the other artists. How are you feeling about artists
that do that where they go, Okay, you're gonna buy
tickets to the show. You're gonna get the record too,
we're gonna count that record towards the first week record play.
You think that's a tactic that they're using strategically in
a good way or it kind of sucks. If I
was an honest I might do it. I probably would
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do it honestly. I mean, you want your music to
get in fans hands, now should the chart keepers? The
gatekeepers kind of allowed that calculation. I don't know. I
mean it kind of writes itself. He was number one
one week and then kind of fell off the charts
the next week, so people kind of knew what had happened. Um,
but you know, you want to get your music out there,
so that's that's a fairly good way to do it.
(29:28):
I don't have anything to goodst them for doing it.
I guess I would say that it's great if you
want to package it, but I don't think it should
count on the chart against people who are literally just
streaming or buying the record. And then this is not
towards Kenny in general. I've but again, you can do it.
It's not against any rules. So I would do it too.
Don't get me wrong, but I'm saying I don't like
the rule that it's if you you're launching a tour,
(29:51):
you have an advantage over someone coming out the same
week that's just launching a record simply because they're not
launching a tour. I think they do it to like
if you have like a three or four or five
disc box set coming out. Don't you get credit for
like five uh, like five records sold if someone buys
the whole box set. Like Garth was kind of the
(30:13):
king of that for a long time. Yeah, And Garth
releases an awesome box set like every week. So it's
like Garth the nineties, Garth. Well, okay, never mind, we
have new stuff from ninety two only Garth. Yeah. Yeah, um,
well listen, Billy. It's great to talk to you. Everybody.
Check out Taste Country. It's a fantastic site if you
love country music. Have a stay safe, have a good week.
We'll talk to you soon, Billy. I really appreciate it,
(30:35):
all right, see you later. So this is a music podcast.
If you're listening on the Bobby Cast and you're listening
on Mike D's podcast, it's a movie podcast. So it's
a music movie. We're doing so both. This will go
on to both of the podcast. Eddie's also here to
to talk with us. This is great. Well, what happened
(30:56):
was I was listening to a jutt Apataw interview because
he's promoting the King of Staten Island and he did
that movie, and he was talking about movies that he
did that didn't do so well as far as making
a bunch of money. And he said, Hey, I loved
Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story, and I though, I've
never seen that before. So I hit Mike up and said,
(31:17):
he you don't do a podcast MultiMate podcasts. Well, since
it's music, I'll review it, and you're blah blah blah.
Here we are. Had Mike seen it, I've seen it
when it first came out. I had to rewatch it.
What was your thought of it before you went into
it that the second time. Did you remember liking it
or no. I remember liking it and thinking it was funny,
but I think I had kind of had a different
outlook on it this time around. Well, so it's a
music parody movie. It's parodying two things. One these bio
(31:43):
pics and music. It's a whole movie parody parodying how
biopics are made, and then two walk to Line Johnny Cash.
It's like two parodies happening at the same time. So
if you haven't seen it first, let's say if we
liked it or not. I thought it was really funny
because I'd see all the movies that was parodying which
is ray, which is the drug stuff A lot, a lot.
(32:05):
It was a lot of the Ray stuff because they're like, ray,
you don't want to heroin and and the Dewey Cox
he walks in the first time and he's young and
they're he's smoking, they're smoking weeds and uh, tim to
meadows to meadows like, man, you don't want this week
walk away and was like it was like, what's weed?
And he's like, well, it makes you feel good and
(32:27):
he's like yeah, he goes and it's not addictive at all,
and he goes really and he goes, yeah, and it's
actually not that expensive either, do it though? And so
and that was a recurring thing to where the drugs
got bigger and harder every time. And it was because
that's kind of what Johnny Cash happened, like and walk
the line, you know, you walk in, they'd be doing
(32:47):
drugs like home, let me try some of that. Um,
you know. The funny part of it too, was, you know,
because a lot of these even Bohemian Rhapsody, which happened
way after the fact, Queen just goes boom boom boom
their superstars in the movie because you don't have four, five, six,
seven hours to do the actual Queen bio pick. But
in walk Hard Dewey, who um is trying to make music.
(33:07):
He starts playing and this first song he ever plays
at a school talent show, the kid just get up
and start dancing, like five seconds into the first song,
and then a big rioter rubts like that music. The
priest is upgoing that's double music. So you know, I
thought the whole famale was pretty funny. I would I
would give it three and a half out of five guitars.
The second time around, I gave it four. Yeah, yeah, Eddie, listen, man,
(33:29):
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I'd
give it four and a half out of five because
I remember loving it so much. I wonder if John
c Riley was a person that they wanted to do
that movie originally, because I could see Will Ferrell doing
that movie, you know, and a lot of movies they
don't get the main guy if they didn't write it
for the main guy, or if the main guy didn't
write it. So I thought John Cerley was awesome, and
(33:52):
I think he was really singing to That's really yeah,
because it sounded like his voice. It starts off and
John c Riley's a kid and his little brother is
there too, and this is very Johnny Cash because Johnny
Cash all brother died, his brother died, was a kid,
and Johnson really actually cuts him in half with the machete.
He gets having fun, but they're doing all these things
(34:13):
where they should die at the beginning of it, and
they get out of it unscathed. And then they're having
a machete fight at the end, and they're the covers
are on a little sword fight, and then he cuts
his brother in half. And then then he do like
a blue song like brother Well, he goes over to
the it's fresh to me, I just thought it. He
goes over to the blue he goes like the gas station,
(34:33):
like the general store, and there's a blues go over
there playing in the corner, and he's like, I'm curious
about that music. And the guy goes, you don't live
a life you have to but to have the blues,
And so he takes the guitar and he goes, well,
I no, I never played guitar, but and then all
of a sudden he's it's a He hits one chord
and it's terrible and the guy goes, well, do you
think do you fingure like this? So he puts his
finger down and he goes and he's like a kid
(34:54):
right at this he's like six, And then he starts
singing a perfectly played blue song and he's like, I
think I got at it. I got the blues. I
killed my Brother's pretty good for your first So and
the whole story is him trying to not avenge his
brother's death. But he told his brother before he died
he would try to be a lot because his brother
was super talented as a kid. Um. And so then
(35:15):
you follow Dewey. But except for the tiny first part.
Kid John c Roley's playing every age of the kid
from like fifteen he's but he says his age, well,
I'm only fifteen, even though he's an adult man. That's
so funny to me, the funny if you're way inside,
I could see where this movie will be hilarious. I
(35:37):
was laughing out loud on a lot of parts of Kaitlin.
My girlfriend did not love it. She thought it was okay,
maybe a blow okay, because she how many times she's
saying this is stupid. Um, I don't think she would
want to take away my joy. So at the end
when it was over, she was like, that's kind of doubt.
But I don't think that she you know, she doesn't
work in music. She's not a big Johnny Cash fan.
(35:58):
She hasn't seen all those biopicks, so I wasn't really
meant for her. Um, what was your favorite part of
the movie? Might I really thought the Bob Dylan parody
stuff was pretty funny. When he like starts changing his
style and start doing Bob Dylan, He's like, maybe Bob
Dylan sounds like me. Yeah, you guys to a press
conference because he's trying to find out who he is
as an artist, and then goes to a press conference
(36:19):
and they're they're like, hey, man, what do you say
to people? Just say you just sound like Bob Dylan.
He goes, what do you said? Bob Dylan wan to say,
he sounds like me, and then it cuts to him
and he's doing a terrible Bob Dylan impression. Obit reference
things and he's like the three odd monkey and he
sounds like Dylan. I don't look out the doaster. Yeah, Eddy,
how long did you watch that movie when it first
(36:40):
came out? I remember I'm such a Pearl Jam fan,
and I remember that he's in it. So that's why
I was like, oh, well, I have to watch this
and so, I mean I watched it when it came out.
But the part that always comes up but that I
remember is the drug scene. I'm just like, it starts
with weed and then cocaine and all it's like, you
don't want this do it? At the end, they're there,
what are they taking? At the very very end, he goes, no,
(37:01):
I'm not gonna. He goes, oh viag because he's old,
and he goes, you know, no temptations for me, and
he walks out and the temptations are literally sinking in
the hallway and they're like, I guess you, and he's
like no. But that The other recurring thing is he
always grabs sinks and right he pulls them off and
(37:25):
slams it down. Right, Um, did Johnny Cash do that?
And I walked the line. I think that's why they
do that, right, I don't know that joke over. It's
like every bathroom he goes into it, he gets manages
rips to sink off the wall, and then don't they
do the like, what's he doing? He's like he stakes
that time to be quiet with his hands up against
the wall. At the very beginning, it starts and ends
like that's right, that's before he plays the show. He
(37:46):
hads to think about his entire life. They're like Mr
Cash one minute and the guy goes, I get him second.
You got thinking out of life here, And that's how
the whole movie starts. And it starts beginning all the
way up to that moment. Before every show he's thinking
about his whole life. It's even funnier talking about because
you think about the great comedies of our day. It's
funny you're the second, third, and fourth time because you
(38:08):
can laugh about all the funny things with your friends.
And it's probably I probably watch it again now. I
think it was even funny because I would catch things. Um.
Kristen Wigg is in it playing his wife, playing Johnny
Cash's first wife. Basically they had all the kids. Um.
And then Jenna Fisher, who plays Pham on the Office,
ends up being June Carter. I don't think that was
her singing though. I don't think so, because that person
(38:30):
had a really great voice, like it really and it
sounded a little different than than Jenni Fisher, Um and
what was your favorite part of the movie that you
can remember. My tears was to Bob Dylan. My favorite
part of the movie. There were just so many parts
that I would like because she would fall asleep and
I would be laughing. My body could be shaking. Um.
(38:52):
When he was trying to make the perfect song and
he had hired people from every country, it's it sounds
like five songs that wants being made in the recording studio.
It's like the seventies. He's trying to make the perfect
anthem for life, and it's like aborigines, it's like surfers,
it's like a goat is doing an instrument. He's like,
I'm trying to make the perfect song. He's spending all
this money and he can't make the perfect song. That
(39:13):
to me is funny because that's every artist before they
get old, but after they've been young, that's right, trying
to change it, trying to change it and find that
right thing to get back on the map because they're
not all the way off. I think there's good has
more vocals on this song than I do. Man and
he goes back to reunite the band at the end um.
Then they go because he's getting a Lifetime Achievement award,
which is why they all get back together. Um. And
(39:34):
so he gets the part where I laughed out lot.
Maybe the most was it's a very end because he's
playing and then the crowd loves the song. His manager
dies in the middle of the song, and then his
back as a ghost on side stage with his dad
and his brother. He dies, he comes back as it
goes that quick you see him go. He died, and
(39:56):
I'll said, He's like, what the crowd and he's on
side stage as it goes. That was funny. And then
Johnny Sorry does his song at the Lifetime achieve An
award and plays in the crowd loves it and he's like,
this is what life's about. Boom boom boom, and then
on the bottom of the screen of freeze and goes
Dewey Cox died three minutes later. That's too funny, man,
(40:18):
it was, And then talking about it, it's even funnier
to me. Did he hang out with the Beatles at
one point in time? So here Elvis. First of all,
Elvis was coming off the stage and like Elvis like
kept karate chopping on that was a side stage funny
part that. Another part was when they were coming off
side stage him and as a guitar player, he was like, hey, man,
(40:39):
let's try let's try girls tonight. Let gonna take that
one do He did, and he goes, but this is
my wife. He goes, Yeah, like I said, he take
his wife. So that happened. But then the Beatles they're
in India. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he went like on one
of those trips with him and it was him and
his band and the Beatles are played by If I
can remember this right, Jason Schwartzman, is he one of them?
He is? Hold on mean care. Paul Rudd was one
(41:02):
of the Beatles. Jason Jason Schwartzman. Um Jack Black played
Paul McCartney. Uh huh, Paul Rudd played John Lennon. Jason
Schwartzman and I'm forgetting they're all known actors. Here's the
other one, Justin Long, Oh, justin Long, that's right. And
then Jack White was Elvis. Oh, Jack White was Elvis.
(41:25):
Oh I didn't catch this, Hey, I didn't catch that.
Oh wow, Well you know, if I'm gonna bump mine
from three and a half to three and three quarters
from the conversation because I'm laughing now thinking about it,
and if we talked about it again, you'd probably bump
it up another half. Probably I'd probably watch it again.
I think it was even funnier when he's buying all
the animals he's buying, you know, he buys a giraffe.
(41:47):
I don't remember this well. He brings it. He gets
a giraffe from playing it like the zoo as a gift,
and so he's like, I don't want five thousands, said
how much that draft? The drafts eating they have a
giraffe to have a monkey because they're doing custody and
only wants a monkey, and he's like, you can take
the children, leave my money. The funniest part and I
(42:08):
forgot the funniest part to me at the end. He's old,
as in out of prime. He's probably fifty or so,
and he's sitting there and he's broken everything in his
house and he turned over the piano, he smashed, all
the sinks all broken, and a kid comes up and goes, hey, Dad,
(42:28):
because he got a bunch of kids. He goes, can
we have a catch? And he's like, man, I think
i'd really like to have a catch right now, and
he goes, great, Dad, he goes, but if you don't,
mommy ask and I hope this isn't inappropriate. What's your
name again? He goes, I'm Dewey Cox Jr. They called
me so uh. It was funny. It's really funny. It
(42:49):
had small parts of really funny and a string of
pretty funny. You're right and and now thinking back at it,
I didn't realize that they were making fun of a
bunch of different pairs or biopics and just how they work. Yes, yes,
because they have to speak because they were like olways
play and he isn't the one note of the song
and the kids are like just the greatest song. So um, yeah,
(43:12):
Dewey Cox Walk Hard was good. I would watch walk
the Line first, Yeah, for sure, to get some reference. Yes,
where does this rank on like your favorite parody movies?
Because it's kind of a weird. I don't know, another
parody movie like scary movie, another teen movie, stuff like that,
because I mean there was like a whole series of
them probably around when when the time this movie came out.
(43:34):
I think it's kind of why I didn't do so
well is because a bunch of parody movies were like
trying to be like it's trying to be like scary movie,
and scary movie was a parody of what scream of scream?
And then they came out with like a parody of
like Twilight and epic movies and all never saw any
of the strings, And you're trying to make fun of them,
but you're also trying to kind of return making a
(43:55):
bad movie essentially. I think that's why it's hard for
them to be successful. Sometimes the best has to be
Baseball's right. I don't remember it, but it was a parody.
I mean I remember a scene where they're having a
sword fight to them and they're holding about their crotch
whatever it is about airplane, airplane airplanes. Good never saw it.
I maybe this and we can. I don't consider spinal tap, though,
(44:17):
a parody of movies, a parody of the music at
the time, which is another great one. So Mike number one,
that's what's my number one? Your favorite parody of my
favorite one? Just because you don't watch a lot of them,
we should do like one of these a month and
review a music movie. Yeah, and like, but we just
get there. There are spoilers, but the movie. The movie
is pretty old, but no, no, but that the whole
(44:38):
point of it is that we're not going to try
to get you to watch it. We're just kind of
talking about it. Yeah, you can watch it on Netflix.
It's yeah, that's where I watch it now. I saw also,
is Rocketman on Netflix or something? Now? I think it's
on Amazon on Amazon for free, I mean me, I
mean if you have Amazon Prime. But I've never seen it,
so that's definitely on my list. Pop Star, I haven't
seen it. Pop Stars another one of those they say
(45:00):
it was really good that didn't get the love it
should have got then, but has become a cult classic.
It's Lonely Island and it's basically a parody of Justin
Bieber's life. Oh, I didn't know that supposed to be funny,
I think, so, I'll google. But John c Riley, I
was looking at movies from him real quick because he's
really funny. But he's also done serious stuff, right, Yeah,
he's not a bunch of serious. The first time I
ever saw him was Days of Thunder? What was it?
(45:21):
What was he? I saw he was in that? He
was like I think in in Cold Trickles Pit Team
step Brothers amazing. Yeah, it's good. Did you ever see
step brother Yeah? Standing Alie was great with John c Riley,
Laurel and Hardy. What it's about. It's sad and it's
about their story, their life story, like a biopic of
Um Laurelan, Hardy, Um Talladegan Knights obviously, Shake and Bake.
(45:44):
I never saw that. You never saw Talent Nights, Wow,
Walk Hard obviously, Wreck At Ralph? Was he Ralph? And
Is it's a big movie, Guard into the Galaxy. I
don't know what he was in. Then it's a hide
character Chicago the Musical, but yeah, the movie, the musical,
(46:06):
Boogie Nights, The Perfect Storm, Days of Thunder, Magnolia. He's
but he's done a bunch of stuff that's just not
straight ahead comedy. But I've never been kissed. Aviator the promotion.
Do you know any of these movies? Aviator? Yeah? Aviator yeah, Yeah.
And then Perfect Storm was good. Yeah. Jimmy Hoffa, he's
(46:27):
bere in a bunch of freaking movies. But he's not elite.
I mean, he wasn't a lead for a long time.
Walk Carlo, Yeah, this was the first one. Yeah, it
was great. I thought he was great, did it all? Right? Well,
we just did fifteen minutes talking about a movie. What's
the next one we could do? We don't have to
do one a month, but I'm I want to watch
pop Star. Yeah, okay, I write that down too. Just
(46:49):
the next week, two weeks or so. Just just come
to me, let me know if you finished it. And
when we've all finished it, we'll talk. And you haven't
seen rocket Man either, right? Oh that's interesting. Yeah, watch
rocket Man. I just let's see pop Star. Pop Star.
Pop Star movie says, never stop stopping. Okay, all right,
(47:14):
it's got seventy and rotten tomatoes. Childhood friends Connor, Owen
and Lawrence found fame and fortune after forming the hip
hop group The Style Boys. Owen and Lawrence faded in
the background when frontman Connor left the band to launch
a successful solo career. Now, the egotistical singer decides to
film a documentary about his life when he's still on top.
When a second album flops, the cameras are to capture
(47:34):
his whole world crashing down. Andy sam berks, that looks
like could be pretty funny. It sounds it lost money,
but Lonely Island's funny to me and that it is
unofficially like justin Bieber. I don't know. I guess it
could be all of them. I think Bieber was blowing
up at this time. So you know which one I
thought was really good? It came out well back with
Jersey Boys. Do you ever watched Jersey Boys? Yeah? The
(47:57):
movie is really good too, Frankie Valley, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I saw that. I saw it. Um, I'm not it's
it was a Broadway play, but I saw it in
Las Vegas. Is that good? Like plays like a great
it's live you know all the songs. Yeah, that's what
makes the movie really good too. All right, that's it. Um.
I hope you enjoyed this. Probably didn't, but
And welcome to episode to forty nine, where at the
end of this Eddie might e d and I will
review the movie Walk Card The Dewey Cox Story. It's
an old movie, but it's a music movie. I've never
seen it, thought it'd be funny. So if you haven't
seen the movie, you still might like listen to the
review because we're we're kind of dumb. But if you
haven't seen it and you want to watch it, maybe
go watch it then come back to the end of
(00:23):
this podcast. But we're gonna put it at the end
in case there are spoilers in there too, right, Mike
a little bit, But that's not a movie. It doesn't
matter if it's spoiled. It's not like some crazy ending. Yeah,
there's nothing you can really spoil it, So check that out.
Check the movie out. Um. Also, we'll talk to Billy
Duke's coming up from Taste Country on the top ten
Hottest Artist, kind of go through that. Billy Duke's smart
guy like him, have him on to talk about that
(00:44):
music Headlines of the Week Live Nation is trying to
get artists to take pay cuts for concerts and festivals
next year. In a memo obtained by rolling Stone, Live
Nation sites unprecedented times and quote the exponential release excuse me,
the exponential rise of certain costs as reasons for adjusting
payment policies. That's interesting because they're gonna have to pay
a lot more to make make sure things are safe
(01:07):
and clean. Then they thought they would let me read
more about this. Most of the new policies shift financial
burdens to the artists. For example, the company wants to
decrease the monetary guarantees promised to artists before an event.
Across the board. Live Nation also says that if a
concert is canceled due to poor ticket sales, it will
give the artist of the guarantee. Well, that's interesting, and
(01:30):
I think I'll speak on this as also a performer.
I work with these promotion companies, promoters all different ones.
I think as long as books are shown, people can
make wise decisions about business they're doing together. And it's
not that I don't trust Live Nation or an artist,
but I would like to see if I'm someone that's
has has agreed to a tour or agreed to you know,
(01:51):
three or four shows or even a show, I want
to see those costs and why I'm gonna take mine
down on the on the Cancel's great for an artist.
They still get paid even if they don't sell tickets
because people don't want to come. Let's say this twenty
they're they're guarantee twenty bucks. Um, they're probably a lower
act would be guaranteed about ten to fifteen thousand, unless
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it's a baby act. On a big tour, they're about
five to five thousand and seventy. A lower act tend
that big acts or the hundreds of thousands dollars a night.
So you're talking about that's a nice little little give there.
But that's interesting. I never thought about the fact that
it's gonna cost more to put on shows, So I
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think as long as they show their books a little bit.
I don't know why an artist would say no to that,
because everybody's gonna lose some money here. Everybody and no
party promoter or artist should benefit and the others should suffer.
You should kind of all be in this together in
a way. Interesting. Let me think about that some more.
Maybe do a whole podcast on that would be the
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most worring podcast ever. Just open up a book. Now
that the whole country is protesting, raging against the Machine
is actually back on the charts. The band's self titled
debut album landed back on the Billboard two hundred. It
reached number eight on the iTunes Top Album charts as well.
Do we have any rage? I can put them up.
This is right in my gut from back in high
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school more so than college. I guess it was like
ninth and tenth grade. I would have someone send me
a tape of the Edge in Dallas. They'd hit record
play and just tape like an hour, and the flip
to tape tape an hour, and I get a lot
of rage in that. Yeah, I was a big rage guy,
but I didn't really know why. I just like the sound.
I didn't really know what they were protesting at the time.
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By the time I started to know, I started to
get older and getting college and they started to fall
off a little bit and do their own things. But
now I look back pretty cool. Uh, this is one
of my favorites. What else do you have? All right,
so we're limited in the rage music. Uh ACN has
secured a six billion dollar contract to build a con City,
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a futuristic cryptocurrency theme city in Senegal. Along with having homes, malls,
and a power plant. Acon city will have all the
amenities of city needs, including schools and a police station.
Pretty baller. Some people have buildings, he has a whole city,
like super futuristic? Does this ever actually happen? Though? I
don't know the guy who did smack that now has
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a city? And is he the king? Is he just
there's king? Yeah? What? Because if he's not, he's still
who the city is named after. And then if he
does something really bad in his older life, like commits
a bad crime, you have to change the name of
it because they don't want to name the city after.
Like you're not seeing anything Bill Cosby elementary schools. It's
still remaining in play. Not that he would do that,
but I'm saying, you know, he commits fraud Martha Stewart style.
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Do you have to change the name of the city. Uh? Finally,
dashboard CONFESSI s old singer Chris Corraba suffered to be
her injuries in a motorcycle accident. Luckily they weren't life
threatening and he expects to make a full recovery. I
was watching the video of him in the hospital bed.
You see it. Yeah, that's sad looking. Yeah, it looks
pretty terrible motorcycles. Just never had the need to get
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on a on a motorcycle. He's a motorcycle guy, though
he looks cool riding a motorcycle. He lives in town.
He lives here. Oh, I've never seen him riding, and
I just said, like he he's the kind of guy
that will look cool riding a motorcy like all the tattoos,
like the good looking face. If you have those two things,
the tattoos in the face, it's pretty good to go.
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But he's what happened to him? Do you know? I
don't know he had a car car hit him. I
don't even think that he hit anybody. I think he
just fell Rookie. Here's the one thing. I've never wrecked
a motorcycle. I don't think I've ever been on while
driving it. Though I've never wrecked a motorcycle. Uh, let's
talk about new music before we get into this. I'm
just really it's really weird about even building statues after
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people who are still alive. It's always a tricky thing
because they do something that's not so good. They could
they what do you do? Take the statue down? Wants
to wait on your statue. Then yeah, I personally don't,
but like I wondered in my town, there's a Sciences
boyhood home Bobby Bones. If I do something bad and
I go to jail today ripped that down. I don't
want that pressure. New music out today. We have five
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songs we want to share with you. Here, m hmm,
I got like seven. Let me see what I put
in my top five. At number five, Nikita Carmen, who's
a fantastic new artist. She put out a new song
called Better. Here's a clip of that happy. At number four,
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Josh Turner announce he's putting out a new country cover album.
He released a cover of Country State of Mind featuring
Chris Jansen. By the way, this is a Hank Junior cover.
You know Country Spain, Kitchens fish Like They're going out
of style drinking Home. At number three, I'm a top five.
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Gabby Barrett put out her record that's called gold Mine.
You can check out the whole record. Here's a song
called Write It on My Heart. Rascal Flats put out
a new song called how They Remember You, And here's
a clip of the Rascal Flats new song what You
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Choose Remember Me? There it is in the number one
song this week. Garth Brooks has a new song called
we Belong to each Other. We been long to each Other,
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were sister and brother like Hawaiian Garth Brooks. That's your
top five. I recommend checking out Eric church Tez to
have new music earlier this week to his fan club.
So there you go. New albums that aren't country. Black
Eyed Peas have translation Phoebe Bridgers. I don't know who
that is, do you? Yeah, she's like indie artist. Yeah,
I figured you would figure That's why I was on
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the list. Punisher, Bob Dylan, Rough and Rowdy Ways, Michael
Fronti and Spearhead or Hard to Be Nice. Lamb of
God has an album. Switch Foot has an album Trapped.
Remember Trapped. They had one song Herd Strong, Herd Strong,
hurt Strong. Remember that? Oh yeah, there is It's jam.
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They're a one hit wonder like crazy right and I
film song in here I forgot about and I forgot
her out him. But I mean that was a pop
song too. Mr Sommer, No, no, no. Then well they
have an album out trying to get that second hit,
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that all elusive second hit, Headstrong too. That's what they
should do. Head strong again. All right, let's get into
this podcast. We'll talk about with Billy Dukes. We'll talk
about the big biggest country music artists the week, and
then we review a music movie at the end of this.
Thank you guys. All right on now is Billy Dukes
from Taste of Country. And I was looking at this article, Billy,
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and I was gonna come on to talk about it,
but I thought, why not get you on since you're
you run the site and helped contribute to this article.
Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, so appreciate it. Um team,
you know, it's country team. But I was the one
who kind of headed it up, yeah, because I was
looking at it and I thought it was an interesting
article because you know, there isn't a right answer. It's
everybody kind of putting their opinion in. And I thought, well,
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there's nobody that listed as a writer. So we came
to you. How does that work when you guys all collaborate,
You guys get in a room or I guess you
can't get in a room now though, with Corona, do
you just send out emails or take a poll of
what's going on? We're big on flack kind of all
day long. I mean, that's kind of how we worked
usually anyway. We have writers based in Texas and out
in the Western Tennessee, and until recently a writer in Buffalo,
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So we've always sort of worked via Slack and emails
and occasionally we get on a conference call as well.
But the modern way, I suppose, Well, these are country
music's top ten artists. Now I may not agree with
all of them with you, but I think it's fun
to kind of talk through them. Number ten, you guys
have Sam Hunt. So talking about Sam Hunt while you
made the list, well, I mean this really could have
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it and might still be sort of a comeback here
for Sam Hunt. I mean, it was a long time
ago that he released Montevello, and he had the new
south Side album which did debut at number one. Um,
he had a big tour planned and in some ways
this this whole year is kind of a theoretical year
since all the tours got canceled. But he was looking
to have a pretty good tour with Kit Moore and
Travis Denning that I think was going to sell a
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lot of concert tickets. Um, I'll just forget I think
is the big thing for Sam. I just think that's
a monster of a song, and it's proven to be digitally,
had sold a lot of copies and it sounds really
really good on the radio. You know what's funny about
Sam is I think he and probably Ashley McBride got
screwed over the worst by Corona as far as it
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was time for them to put their stomp down. Sam
again because he's been gone for so long, and Ashley
really for the first time with the general public like
people actually, uh, they're just country music sort of fans
knowing who she is. I felt like they both If
I were picking who got hurt the worst as far
as breakout years, it would be Sam to rebreak and
then Ashley McBride to really have our shot. But it
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doesn't mean they're not going to break back anyway. But
I felt like they were both really poised. Number nine
you have Keith Urban. Yeah, Keith. I mean I really
kind of expected Keith to be higher going into this.
I didn't realize that he hasn't really toured in America anyway,
and um really since so that's certainly affected things. Uh
the Grassini U album. I would bi Keith Urban fan.
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I think his albums are fantastic, but it didn't really
stick commercially like maybe some of his other ones have.
The new music he's working on, though, I think it
is doing really well. Um, when God Whispered Your Name
is one of my favorite songs of the year so far.
We were a pretty big hit and um and then
of course he's hosting the A c M. So I
think that's gonna lead to a really big fall into
winner for Keith. Yeah, this song is my favorite Keith
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Urban song in a long time. I like like soft
Keith Urban. That's my favorite Keith Urban. When I can
like poke it and it feels soft and loving, that's
my that's my favorite Keith Yeah, you know, yeah, I'm
going with you. I like that. Like when he gets
pretty experimental as well, like the Pitball collaboration from a
couple of albums ago. I could get down with that
for a bit. My guess is that the A c
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M s will not happen so he I think he'll
end up posting a thing like doing with c M
A Fest now because with c M A Fest the
actual show, but they were gonna have that, I was
gonna host it. It got ripped away because of obviously
they're not having the festival at all. So now there's
a virtual thing where they're playing old episodes. Um, but
a c M S are alive thing with a bunch
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of folks in the room. What is that supposed to
happen in September October? Billy? Do you remember, uh, September
somewhere in their mid September. I can't see them getting
a thousand, five thousand, ten thousand people in a room
at that point, just just guessing. Can you agree? No,
I'm with you. I mean, I think they gotta do
something because they got to give out those trophies, don't they.
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I think the trophy, you know, and it's a weird
year to give trophies. I mean with CMA is coming
up in November. Uh. We were talking on the show
Who's gonna be? Who would you consider for Entertainer of
the Year during and you know, I would say Entertainer
years never award that has actual guidelines on it. It
can be someone who tours or has hits or dust
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things outside of uh of just music. And I think
when you look at that Keith Urban, who was one
of the first guys to go and play shows, doing
these these drive in shows for first for the you know,
frontline workers. I think Garth has to be considered at
how he's he's not doing the live shows, but he's
doing three drive in theaters at once. He's you know,
done a couple of TV shows. So I think Entertainer
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of the Year as we're talking about a c M
S or c M AS, I think it's going to
be looked at a bit different this year when you
hear that, who would you put in that list of
Entertainer of the Year this year? Well, I would add
artists like maybe Thomas Rhett and Luke Combs only because
they've they've handled the digital elements so well, like they've
consistently released new songs on Instagram, TV or through YouTube
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in the case of Luke Combs, and they've kind of
done that, whereas well Dark those digital pretty well too.
But you know that's sort of a new generation, is
the new version of the live show. At number eight
on the list, someone that I I almost put in
that Sam Hunt Ashley McBride is Dan and Ship because
it was and I'm you know, close to both those
guys that are like legitimate friends and I know for
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them they were finally playing arenas this is two guys
who were never supposed to make it according to everyone,
who were to everything that wasn't country. They got together,
started writing, were always told no, no, no, and they
have just hit so hard and they were finally headlining
arenas and I remember seeing Dan's message. I think they
were outside of arena going we can't do it. We
got to call it off and they were just had
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hit such an apex and now uh not able to go.
But they're at number eight on your list. Yeah, and
I'm with you. I I had Dan and Shay as
the artist probably hit hardist by the coronavirus for those
exact reasons. Um, I think that stadium or that arena
tour was gonna be huge, and I think we would
have had more music from them by now. Um, and
they've been so consistent with the quality of songs these
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last few years. I think, uh, they we have had
some great new music from them from now to kind
of drive that tour, but also huge on Spotify, and
they got a ton of ATM nominations leading up in September,
So I think they arguably would have been top five
had we not had the COVID nineteam shutdown. Isn't it
a while to think that a lot of artists are
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holding off a bit on putting out music. But when
things start to track back, which it could be next
year before we really get back into I mean, I
think it's gonna take a vaccine for people to just
rip and roll. You know, you're gonna see spots of
people touring in some place, and there are some parts
of the country where they said hey and told me, hey,
we can play shows at casinos, And for me, I
don't feel comfortable playing shows right now, um at all,
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but some is gonna But I don't think it's all
happening everywhere until there's a vaccine for for COVID, for corona,
whatever you gonna call it. But at the same time,
you're gonna see everybody releasing new music at the same time.
That's wild to think about, could be really nuts. And
then leading into next year, my thought is that every artist.
Initially my thought was every artist who're gonna play one
venue sized down so that it's gonna be really hard
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to play stadiums, and Kenny Chen he's going to try
next year. But then if you're arena artist, you're gonna
do maybe smaller arenas and then from there because people
they're not gonna be as eager to go to the shows.
And I think getting people to allow shows in certain
parts of the country, You're not gonna be able to
go into southern California or New York or Boston or
some of these major metropolitan areas because you're seeing COVID
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go up and regard of how you believe people should
handle it, you know, there are certain rules that some
cities are just holding tight on um, you know, with
I don't think again, I don't think the cm are
gonna happen in Nashville. I don't have any inside knowledge.
I'm on the board of the a c MS, but
they don't tell us trap like that. But I can't
see them putting five thousand people in a room though,
do I mean for anything? Can you? No? No, I can't.
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I know Nashville has open back up, and I'm watching
the number of cases every day, and I see him
going up and up in Tennessee, and it's a little scary.
Jason al Dean's at seven talk about Jason. Jason is
like the most consistent artist really of the last ten years.
I think he's probably been somewhere between uh three and
number seven on this list every year. This is the
first year we've done it, but he would have been. Um.
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He continues to be one of the biggest live draws.
He sells I think over sixteen and seventeen thousand tickets
the show, and he plays a lot of shows um Spotify.
He's not a big streaming artist compared to like the
Dan and Chase and the Marion morris Is of the world.
But We Back and Got What I Got have both
been solid songs. I don't think the nine album has
produced maybe that sort of signature song in terms of
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a radio single quite yet. Um, but they've both been
solid number one hits. And then of course he's kind
of become viral with his wife Brittany Aldan on Instagram.
I mean, she makes some kind of a really fun
celebrity to watch as well. You know, she actually makes
him a bit relatable because you see the human side
of Jason Aldean, who's kind of that country rocker with
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this image that you don't get to peek behind the
curtain until Brittany kind of came into the picture. Yeah,
they're super fun to watch, I think on Instagram, I
think they're they're cute. I don't know if we would
have said Jason Aldean is cute to watch. I don't
know that still would say that, but yeah, you're right,
it does bring an extra element to Jason. That's funny. Uh.
Number six is Marion Morris on your list of the
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Hottest Country Artists? Yeah, and I really hate that man
is the only female artists represented on this list. Um Miranda,
I think I could have argued to made the list
pretty easily. But Marin is just huge on Spotify. She's
a really successful artist streaming. Um. The Bones is a
much much bigger song that I think anybody could have
possibly imagined. It's held down number one, I think for
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like fifteen weeks now. And she's also developed not only
a really big touring artist in terms of like being
able to sell tickets, she's really gotten good. I mean,
you've probably seen her a number of times over the
years like I have, and you know, she kind of
found her way on stage and she can kind of
filled up some of those bigger stages and she's just
a great live performer nowadays. And The Bones I'll flip
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over sometimes on satellite and I can hear the one
hundred or I can hear the pop station and the
Bones is playing on pop radio too, which you know,
we haven't seen a lot of artists other than Dan
and Shay and a little bit Sam crossover. I don't
know if there's been a female Has there been a
female crossover really in the last five or six years, Um,
Kelsey hasn't really. I mean she was on a Chain
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Smoker song, so you're right. I don't count Kelsey crossing
over because she was on one of their songs. But yeah,
Kelsey and Miranda hasn't. No, I mean maybe if you
if you want to count be Rexa because that song
crossed over country. Yeah, I don't know, but the country up.
So my point is good for Marion, like she's doing
it and I think she's, you know, still achieving so
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much at a time where people are kind of chilling back.
I think we're having that baby was was was awesome.
The timing was like, you don't you never want a
pandemic to happen, But if I were gonna have a baby,
I'd have a baby at a pandemic when you're locked
in the house the whole time, you know, perfect. Yeah,
it was out perfectly for Kane Brown's at number five. Yeah,
I think Karen, Kane and Marion are really pretty close. Um,
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Kane's got one more album that sort of sticks around
on that album chart. Homesick is all over the radio.
That song still sounds good and it's what a year old.
Two years old had a big tour this year, and
he has all that crossover success, I mean the my
Smallow song, John Legend song, and he's done a few more.
He continues to prove he's well on his way to
becoming a legit not only male Outists of the Year contender,
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but Entertainer of the Year contender, and probably a few
years it's gonna be weird to watch kind of the
shift and Entertainer of the year because in country music,
the entertainers of the year don't go away, meaning as
they get older, they dig in and it's harder to
move them out. It's not like people retire over here.
You're not gonna see Luke Bryan and Al Dean retire.
But then you have the Kane Browns and the the
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Luke Combs and the Thomas Rhets. They're just almost too
many superstars to have them all in that category, you know. Yeah,
and Kane's kind of been snubbed from the awards, so
who knows when he'll actually kind of get his shot.
But I see Luke and Luke Combs and and Thomas
rhet are both in the entertainer category for the A
c N S, So that's kind of a dramatic shift.
Two newbies in out of five, which rolls is over
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to number four is Thomas Rhette talk about tr Yeah,
be a light Man. That's going to be one of
the songs of the year and not only kind of
defines this time, it's just a really great collaboration. And
that came Wow, Beer Camp Fix was nearing number one.
Um quietly he's become a really huge live artist. He
sold some seven hunds of thousand tickets last year, and
I think that Entertainer of the Year not really kind
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of gave him a leg up maybe on the King
Browns of the world to give him them before in
this list, well, the A c M s are a
bit more progressive. I know Thomas one Thomas Routt one
Male Vocalist of the Year a couple of years ago,
and that was a big deal because that was the
first time that someone had broken through in that category
in a while. So it's always interesting to watch the
two award shows because the A c M s are
a few years ahead or a bit GUESSI and the
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c M as or maybe a year or two behind.
At times when you see people like Dan and Shaye
miss and miss and then hit after they probably already
should have hit. H Jayson L. Deane, I mean kind
of defined that for a while he would win the
A c M Entertainer of the Year and he couldn't
sniff a nomination. Yeah, that's a good point to see.
Blake Shelton is the number three. What he got about Blake?
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Blake seems to be making a comeback of his own.
I mean, he's never really left because he's been on
the Voice the whole time. But this God's Country sort
of mini album. God's Country obviously a great song. The
Gwen Stefani duett was obviously huge, but really some of
those more memorable songs over the last five or ten years.
My favorite story about Blake is that he retweeted a
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woman or replied to him when on Twitter who had
a book inspired by her late daughter, and then that
book shot up to like top five on like three
Amazon book charts. He's just really really influential. Well then
we get to number one and number two and they're
both Luke's. Now I wonder was this close at all
or not? Yeah, I think we really debated between the
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two of them, and it's kind of back to like
what you're talking about with regards the entertainer of the years,
you have sort of that old guard that sits in
those top spots. Um, Luke Combs I think analytically, if
you looked at the numbers, is just a little stronger.
His albums I think are in the top two or
three every single week in terms of the charts. Um,
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every song he puts out as a hit and memorable,
and he's become a great touring artist. Luke Bryant has
American idol uh and probably draws more fans per show live. Um,
how do you choose between them? I think altimately we
kind of went with the numbers and this we try
to be analytical and objective, and that meant in some
cases maybe leaning more into the numbers. So that's how
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we kind of add up with Luke Combs at number one.
So Luke Bryan's at number two, and I'm gonna read
some of what you wrote here what was written. No
one on this list sells more concert tickets than Luke Brian.
He's the stadium act with a strong foothold of country radio,
even if his albums don't hold the same clout as
some others before or after him. And again, I'm assuming
you guys are adding in things like American Idol and
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you know, just like Blake with the voice, like things
other than just songs on the radio or songs that
are streaming. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I think that kind
of adds to their overall heat, if you will. Number one.
Luke Combs, boy, I tell you I haven't seen a
guy he's been. He has been the unicorn for me
and my seven eight years in town. Like you know,
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Sam hit hard early and did what he did. But
Sam was a reluctant star. Um, Luke, I don't know screams. Hey,
I knew I was going to be a star, one
of be a star, but I haven't. He's just so
undeniable all the time and everything he does. I have
not seen anything like a Luke Combs trajectory, have you know,
especially in terms of how easy he makes it look
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like all of his songs sounds so easy, and I
know they're not. They're well written songs, um, but he
does have sort of that swagger. I talked to one
of the writers of Beard Never Broke My Heart, and
he more or less admitted that Luke Combs knew it
was going to be kind of a career song song
for him when they wrote it, and that was well
before we've ever heard it on the radio. So he
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does sort of have this swagger about him and no,
but he still comes off as a really kind of humble,
nice guy when you talk to him. And people that
do it really well always make it look really easy.
You know. Uh with Luke, you're like, man, he's writing songs.
I feel that way. Man, How does he do that?
It seems so easy? That's because he's so good, you know.
I think Sam is a guy too who writes songs
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like that. Obviously Sam kind of checked out for a while,
but body like a back road. If I hear one
more person say, man, I could have written that song,
then why don't you freaking write it? You can't write
it because it just it sounds so easy. But how
Sam writes is Sam will take four days on a song.
He'll write a song for five or six hours and
then come back into it days and days and days after,
and it's the it's the minutia of a song that
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especially like a song like that that really made it pop.
I think Luke and Samer are a lot of like
in that way. So who would have been your number one?
I agree with most of everything you wrote, maybe the
maybe the order is not the same, but I'd have
put Luke Combs at one with Luke it two. The
only person that I felt was honorable mention or maybe
you could have jumped in, was someone who doesn't have
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the numbers but has so much momentum is Morrigan Wallen
like as far as far as like hits and momentum
and like undeniable, maybe just an honorable mention like that
guy is legit songwriter, singer, performer, like he has the
three things to be a country star, and he also
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has that real you understand that who five minutes with
him or watching a clip you know who Morgan Walla did.
Wallon is instantly and it's not manufactured at all. So
I don't know if he makes top ten. I think
you guys did a great job on the list, which
is why I wanted to get you on. But I
think Morgan Wallon was the one that for me, I
was like, oh, that's a close one. Yeah. I think
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early on we we decided to full kind of focus
on arena headliners, which was a tough choice all on
its own because there's so many kind of younger artists
that just have a lot of what you would call he.
I mean, Ashley McBride certainly does, and and some others
who are even newer. Morgan Wallen, it's certainly right there.
I mean he he kind of checks all the boxes
and I think with another album or two, he's going
to be a real headliner. All right there. He is
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Instagram hip until kind of fairly recent me. I had
like my personal Instagram, which was just like family photos,
(28:03):
and I finally decided I need to get with it,
and I think there was already a Billy Dukes on Instagram.
So I used a hashtag that I often sees on Twitter,
and we was serious journalist, because often I'm not very serious.
Did you guys consider Chesney for this list because he's
had some radio hits, obviously he's doing the big old tour.
Did you consider him at all? Yeah? He was on.
(28:25):
Certainly one of the artists we talked about. I mean,
I know he's got a big stadium tour, but um,
you know that the album and the songs aren't quite
as iconic as they used to be. A debut at
Number one argued that was because a lot of those
albums were attached to the concert tickets. Um, I'm not
sure he's so much in the moment is maybe some
(28:46):
of the other artists. How are you feeling about artists
that do that where they go, Okay, you're gonna buy
tickets to the show. You're gonna get the record too,
we're gonna count that record towards the first week record play.
You think that's a tactic that they're using strategically in
a good way or it kind of sucks. If I
was an honest I might do it. I probably would
(29:07):
do it honestly. I mean, you want your music to
get in fans hands, now should the chart keepers? The
gatekeepers kind of allowed that calculation. I don't know. I
mean it kind of writes itself. He was number one
one week and then kind of fell off the charts
the next week, so people kind of knew what had happened. Um,
but you know, you want to get your music out there,
so that's that's a fairly good way to do it.
(29:28):
I don't have anything to goodst them for doing it.
I guess I would say that it's great if you
want to package it, but I don't think it should
count on the chart against people who are literally just
streaming or buying the record. And then this is not
towards Kenny in general. I've but again, you can do it.
It's not against any rules. So I would do it too.
Don't get me wrong, but I'm saying I don't like
the rule that it's if you you're launching a tour,
(29:51):
you have an advantage over someone coming out the same
week that's just launching a record simply because they're not
launching a tour. I think they do it to like
if you have like a three or four or five
disc box set coming out. Don't you get credit for
like five uh, like five records sold if someone buys
the whole box set. Like Garth was kind of the
(30:13):
king of that for a long time. Yeah, And Garth
releases an awesome box set like every week. So it's
like Garth the nineties, Garth. Well, okay, never mind, we
have new stuff from ninety two only Garth. Yeah. Yeah, um,
well listen, Billy. It's great to talk to you. Everybody.
Check out Taste Country. It's a fantastic site if you
love country music. Have a stay safe, have a good week.
We'll talk to you soon, Billy. I really appreciate it,
(30:35):
all right, see you later. So this is a music podcast.
If you're listening on the Bobby Cast and you're listening
on Mike D's podcast, it's a movie podcast. So it's
a music movie. We're doing so both. This will go
on to both of the podcast. Eddie's also here to
to talk with us. This is great. Well, what happened
(30:56):
was I was listening to a jutt Apataw interview because
he's promoting the King of Staten Island and he did
that movie, and he was talking about movies that he
did that didn't do so well as far as making
a bunch of money. And he said, Hey, I loved
Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story, and I though, I've
never seen that before. So I hit Mike up and said,
(31:17):
he you don't do a podcast MultiMate podcasts. Well, since
it's music, I'll review it, and you're blah blah blah.
Here we are. Had Mike seen it, I've seen it
when it first came out. I had to rewatch it.
What was your thought of it before you went into
it that the second time. Did you remember liking it
or no. I remember liking it and thinking it was funny,
but I think I had kind of had a different
outlook on it this time around. Well, so it's a
music parody movie. It's parodying two things. One these bio
(31:43):
pics and music. It's a whole movie parody parodying how
biopics are made, and then two walk to Line Johnny Cash.
It's like two parodies happening at the same time. So
if you haven't seen it first, let's say if we
liked it or not. I thought it was really funny
because I'd see all the movies that was parodying which
is ray, which is the drug stuff A lot, a lot.
(32:05):
It was a lot of the Ray stuff because they're like, ray,
you don't want to heroin and and the Dewey Cox
he walks in the first time and he's young and
they're he's smoking, they're smoking weeds and uh, tim to
meadows to meadows like, man, you don't want this week
walk away and was like it was like, what's weed?
And he's like, well, it makes you feel good and
(32:27):
he's like yeah, he goes and it's not addictive at all,
and he goes really and he goes, yeah, and it's
actually not that expensive either, do it though? And so
and that was a recurring thing to where the drugs
got bigger and harder every time. And it was because
that's kind of what Johnny Cash happened, like and walk
the line, you know, you walk in, they'd be doing
(32:47):
drugs like home, let me try some of that. Um,
you know. The funny part of it too, was, you know,
because a lot of these even Bohemian Rhapsody, which happened
way after the fact, Queen just goes boom boom boom
their superstars in the movie because you don't have four, five, six,
seven hours to do the actual Queen bio pick. But
in walk Hard Dewey, who um is trying to make music.
(33:07):
He starts playing and this first song he ever plays
at a school talent show, the kid just get up
and start dancing, like five seconds into the first song,
and then a big rioter rubts like that music. The
priest is upgoing that's double music. So you know, I
thought the whole famale was pretty funny. I would I
would give it three and a half out of five guitars.
The second time around, I gave it four. Yeah, yeah, Eddie, listen, man,
(33:29):
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I'd
give it four and a half out of five because
I remember loving it so much. I wonder if John
c Riley was a person that they wanted to do
that movie originally, because I could see Will Ferrell doing
that movie, you know, and a lot of movies they
don't get the main guy if they didn't write it
for the main guy, or if the main guy didn't
write it. So I thought John Cerley was awesome, and
(33:52):
I think he was really singing to That's really yeah,
because it sounded like his voice. It starts off and
John c Riley's a kid and his little brother is
there too, and this is very Johnny Cash because Johnny
Cash all brother died, his brother died, was a kid,
and Johnson really actually cuts him in half with the machete.
He gets having fun, but they're doing all these things
(34:13):
where they should die at the beginning of it, and
they get out of it unscathed. And then they're having
a machete fight at the end, and they're the covers
are on a little sword fight, and then he cuts
his brother in half. And then then he do like
a blue song like brother Well, he goes over to
the it's fresh to me, I just thought it. He
goes over to the blue he goes like the gas station,
(34:33):
like the general store, and there's a blues go over
there playing in the corner, and he's like, I'm curious
about that music. And the guy goes, you don't live
a life you have to but to have the blues,
And so he takes the guitar and he goes, well,
I no, I never played guitar, but and then all
of a sudden he's it's a He hits one chord
and it's terrible and the guy goes, well, do you
think do you fingure like this? So he puts his
finger down and he goes and he's like a kid
(34:54):
right at this he's like six, And then he starts
singing a perfectly played blue song and he's like, I
think I got at it. I got the blues. I
killed my Brother's pretty good for your first So and
the whole story is him trying to not avenge his
brother's death. But he told his brother before he died
he would try to be a lot because his brother
was super talented as a kid. Um. And so then
(35:15):
you follow Dewey. But except for the tiny first part.
Kid John c Roley's playing every age of the kid
from like fifteen he's but he says his age, well,
I'm only fifteen, even though he's an adult man. That's
so funny to me, the funny if you're way inside,
I could see where this movie will be hilarious. I
(35:37):
was laughing out loud on a lot of parts of Kaitlin.
My girlfriend did not love it. She thought it was okay,
maybe a blow okay, because she how many times she's
saying this is stupid. Um, I don't think she would
want to take away my joy. So at the end
when it was over, she was like, that's kind of doubt.
But I don't think that she you know, she doesn't
work in music. She's not a big Johnny Cash fan.
(35:58):
She hasn't seen all those biopicks, so I wasn't really
meant for her. Um, what was your favorite part of
the movie? Might I really thought the Bob Dylan parody
stuff was pretty funny. When he like starts changing his
style and start doing Bob Dylan, He's like, maybe Bob
Dylan sounds like me. Yeah, you guys to a press
conference because he's trying to find out who he is
as an artist, and then goes to a press conference
(36:19):
and they're they're like, hey, man, what do you say
to people? Just say you just sound like Bob Dylan.
He goes, what do you said? Bob Dylan wan to say,
he sounds like me, and then it cuts to him
and he's doing a terrible Bob Dylan impression. Obit reference
things and he's like the three odd monkey and he
sounds like Dylan. I don't look out the doaster. Yeah, Eddy,
how long did you watch that movie when it first
(36:40):
came out? I remember I'm such a Pearl Jam fan,
and I remember that he's in it. So that's why
I was like, oh, well, I have to watch this
and so, I mean I watched it when it came out.
But the part that always comes up but that I
remember is the drug scene. I'm just like, it starts
with weed and then cocaine and all it's like, you
don't want this do it? At the end, they're there,
what are they taking? At the very very end, he goes, no,
(37:01):
I'm not gonna. He goes, oh viag because he's old,
and he goes, you know, no temptations for me, and
he walks out and the temptations are literally sinking in
the hallway and they're like, I guess you, and he's
like no. But that The other recurring thing is he
always grabs sinks and right he pulls them off and
(37:25):
slams it down. Right, Um, did Johnny Cash do that?
And I walked the line. I think that's why they
do that, right, I don't know that joke over. It's
like every bathroom he goes into it, he gets manages
rips to sink off the wall, and then don't they
do the like, what's he doing? He's like he stakes
that time to be quiet with his hands up against
the wall. At the very beginning, it starts and ends
like that's right, that's before he plays the show. He
(37:46):
hads to think about his entire life. They're like Mr
Cash one minute and the guy goes, I get him second.
You got thinking out of life here, And that's how
the whole movie starts. And it starts beginning all the
way up to that moment. Before every show he's thinking
about his whole life. It's even funnier talking about because
you think about the great comedies of our day. It's
funny you're the second, third, and fourth time because you
(38:08):
can laugh about all the funny things with your friends.
And it's probably I probably watch it again now. I
think it was even funny because I would catch things. Um.
Kristen Wigg is in it playing his wife, playing Johnny
Cash's first wife. Basically they had all the kids. Um.
And then Jenna Fisher, who plays Pham on the Office,
ends up being June Carter. I don't think that was
her singing though. I don't think so, because that person
(38:30):
had a really great voice, like it really and it
sounded a little different than than Jenni Fisher, Um and
what was your favorite part of the movie that you
can remember. My tears was to Bob Dylan. My favorite
part of the movie. There were just so many parts
that I would like because she would fall asleep and
I would be laughing. My body could be shaking. Um.
(38:52):
When he was trying to make the perfect song and
he had hired people from every country, it's it sounds
like five songs that wants being made in the recording studio.
It's like the seventies. He's trying to make the perfect
anthem for life, and it's like aborigines, it's like surfers,
it's like a goat is doing an instrument. He's like,
I'm trying to make the perfect song. He's spending all
this money and he can't make the perfect song. That
(39:13):
to me is funny because that's every artist before they
get old, but after they've been young, that's right, trying
to change it, trying to change it and find that
right thing to get back on the map because they're
not all the way off. I think there's good has
more vocals on this song than I do. Man and
he goes back to reunite the band at the end um.
Then they go because he's getting a Lifetime Achievement award,
which is why they all get back together. Um. And
(39:34):
so he gets the part where I laughed out lot.
Maybe the most was it's a very end because he's
playing and then the crowd loves the song. His manager
dies in the middle of the song, and then his
back as a ghost on side stage with his dad
and his brother. He dies, he comes back as it
goes that quick you see him go. He died, and
(39:56):
I'll said, He's like, what the crowd and he's on
side stage as it goes. That was funny. And then
Johnny Sorry does his song at the Lifetime achieve An
award and plays in the crowd loves it and he's like,
this is what life's about. Boom boom boom, and then
on the bottom of the screen of freeze and goes
Dewey Cox died three minutes later. That's too funny, man,
(40:18):
it was, And then talking about it, it's even funnier
to me. Did he hang out with the Beatles at
one point in time? So here Elvis. First of all,
Elvis was coming off the stage and like Elvis like
kept karate chopping on that was a side stage funny
part that. Another part was when they were coming off
side stage him and as a guitar player, he was like, hey, man,
(40:39):
let's try let's try girls tonight. Let gonna take that
one do He did, and he goes, but this is
my wife. He goes, Yeah, like I said, he take
his wife. So that happened. But then the Beatles they're
in India. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he went like on one
of those trips with him and it was him and
his band and the Beatles are played by If I
can remember this right, Jason Schwartzman, is he one of them?
He is? Hold on mean care. Paul Rudd was one
(41:02):
of the Beatles. Jason Jason Schwartzman. Um Jack Black played
Paul McCartney. Uh huh, Paul Rudd played John Lennon. Jason
Schwartzman and I'm forgetting they're all known actors. Here's the
other one, Justin Long, Oh, justin Long, that's right. And
then Jack White was Elvis. Oh, Jack White was Elvis.
(41:25):
Oh I didn't catch this, Hey, I didn't catch that.
Oh wow, Well you know, if I'm gonna bump mine
from three and a half to three and three quarters
from the conversation because I'm laughing now thinking about it,
and if we talked about it again, you'd probably bump
it up another half. Probably I'd probably watch it again.
I think it was even funnier when he's buying all
the animals he's buying, you know, he buys a giraffe.
(41:47):
I don't remember this well. He brings it. He gets
a giraffe from playing it like the zoo as a gift,
and so he's like, I don't want five thousands, said
how much that draft? The drafts eating they have a
giraffe to have a monkey because they're doing custody and
only wants a monkey, and he's like, you can take
the children, leave my money. The funniest part and I
(42:08):
forgot the funniest part to me at the end. He's old,
as in out of prime. He's probably fifty or so,
and he's sitting there and he's broken everything in his
house and he turned over the piano, he smashed, all
the sinks all broken, and a kid comes up and goes, hey, Dad,
(42:28):
because he got a bunch of kids. He goes, can
we have a catch? And he's like, man, I think
i'd really like to have a catch right now, and
he goes, great, Dad, he goes, but if you don't,
mommy ask and I hope this isn't inappropriate. What's your
name again? He goes, I'm Dewey Cox Jr. They called
me so uh. It was funny. It's really funny. It
(42:49):
had small parts of really funny and a string of
pretty funny. You're right and and now thinking back at it,
I didn't realize that they were making fun of a
bunch of different pairs or biopics and just how they work. Yes, yes,
because they have to speak because they were like olways
play and he isn't the one note of the song
and the kids are like just the greatest song. So um, yeah,
(43:12):
Dewey Cox Walk Hard was good. I would watch walk
the Line first, Yeah, for sure, to get some reference. Yes,
where does this rank on like your favorite parody movies?
Because it's kind of a weird. I don't know, another
parody movie like scary movie, another teen movie, stuff like that,
because I mean there was like a whole series of
them probably around when when the time this movie came out.
(43:34):
I think it's kind of why I didn't do so
well is because a bunch of parody movies were like
trying to be like it's trying to be like scary movie,
and scary movie was a parody of what scream of scream?
And then they came out with like a parody of
like Twilight and epic movies and all never saw any
of the strings, And you're trying to make fun of them,
but you're also trying to kind of return making a
(43:55):
bad movie essentially. I think that's why it's hard for
them to be successful. Sometimes the best has to be
Baseball's right. I don't remember it, but it was a parody.
I mean I remember a scene where they're having a
sword fight to them and they're holding about their crotch
whatever it is about airplane, airplane airplanes. Good never saw it.
I maybe this and we can. I don't consider spinal tap, though,
(44:17):
a parody of movies, a parody of the music at
the time, which is another great one. So Mike number one,
that's what's my number one? Your favorite parody of my
favorite one? Just because you don't watch a lot of them,
we should do like one of these a month and
review a music movie. Yeah, and like, but we just
get there. There are spoilers, but the movie. The movie
is pretty old, but no, no, but that the whole
(44:38):
point of it is that we're not going to try
to get you to watch it. We're just kind of
talking about it. Yeah, you can watch it on Netflix.
It's yeah, that's where I watch it now. I saw also,
is Rocketman on Netflix or something? Now? I think it's
on Amazon on Amazon for free, I mean me, I
mean if you have Amazon Prime. But I've never seen it,
so that's definitely on my list. Pop Star, I haven't
seen it. Pop Stars another one of those they say
(45:00):
it was really good that didn't get the love it
should have got then, but has become a cult classic.
It's Lonely Island and it's basically a parody of Justin
Bieber's life. Oh, I didn't know that supposed to be funny,
I think, so, I'll google. But John c Riley, I
was looking at movies from him real quick because he's
really funny. But he's also done serious stuff, right, Yeah,
he's not a bunch of serious. The first time I
ever saw him was Days of Thunder? What was it?
(45:21):
What was he? I saw he was in that? He
was like I think in in Cold Trickles Pit Team
step Brothers amazing. Yeah, it's good. Did you ever see
step brother Yeah? Standing Alie was great with John c Riley,
Laurel and Hardy. What it's about. It's sad and it's
about their story, their life story, like a biopic of
Um Laurelan, Hardy, Um Talladegan Knights obviously, Shake and Bake.
(45:44):
I never saw that. You never saw Talent Nights, Wow,
Walk Hard obviously, Wreck At Ralph? Was he Ralph? And
Is it's a big movie, Guard into the Galaxy. I
don't know what he was in. Then it's a hide
character Chicago the Musical, but yeah, the movie, the musical,
(46:06):
Boogie Nights, The Perfect Storm, Days of Thunder, Magnolia. He's
but he's done a bunch of stuff that's just not
straight ahead comedy. But I've never been kissed. Aviator the promotion.
Do you know any of these movies? Aviator? Yeah? Aviator yeah, Yeah.
And then Perfect Storm was good. Yeah. Jimmy Hoffa, he's
(46:27):
bere in a bunch of freaking movies. But he's not elite.
I mean, he wasn't a lead for a long time.
Walk Carlo, Yeah, this was the first one. Yeah, it
was great. I thought he was great, did it all? Right? Well,
we just did fifteen minutes talking about a movie. What's
the next one we could do? We don't have to
do one a month, but I'm I want to watch
pop Star. Yeah, okay, I write that down too. Just
(46:49):
the next week, two weeks or so. Just just come
to me, let me know if you finished it. And
when we've all finished it, we'll talk. And you haven't
seen rocket Man either, right? Oh that's interesting. Yeah, watch
rocket Man. I just let's see pop Star. Pop Star.
Pop Star movie says, never stop stopping. Okay, all right,
(47:14):
it's got seventy and rotten tomatoes. Childhood friends Connor, Owen
and Lawrence found fame and fortune after forming the hip
hop group The Style Boys. Owen and Lawrence faded in
the background when frontman Connor left the band to launch
a successful solo career. Now, the egotistical singer decides to
film a documentary about his life when he's still on top.
When a second album flops, the cameras are to capture
(47:34):
his whole world crashing down. Andy sam berks, that looks
like could be pretty funny. It sounds it lost money,
but Lonely Island's funny to me and that it is
unofficially like justin Bieber. I don't know. I guess it
could be all of them. I think Bieber was blowing
up at this time. So you know which one I
thought was really good? It came out well back with
Jersey Boys. Do you ever watched Jersey Boys? Yeah? The
(47:57):
movie is really good too, Frankie Valley, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I saw that. I saw it. Um, I'm not it's
it was a Broadway play, but I saw it in
Las Vegas. Is that good? Like plays like a great
it's live you know all the songs. Yeah, that's what
makes the movie really good too. All right, that's it. Um.
I hope you enjoyed this. Probably didn't, but
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