Bobby just got his Jukebox working in his house and is filling it with 100 CDs. He brings on Eddie to pick 5 albums that will go into the slots. Bobby talks to new artist Nikita Karmen who just released her debut album “The Garden”. They talk about meeting over Skype, her moving the United States from Australia and the song she wrote that made her cry on her new album. Bobby talks to Matty in the Morning who has been in the air in Boston for 40 years! They talk about what it was like starting out in radio in the 80’s, celebs he had in the studio from Oprah to Tom Hanks... and also the one celebrity who wasn’t so nice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M H welcome, Welcome mucho mucol, Bobby Cast to seventy nine.
Thank you for hanging out. We will talk to new
artist Nikita Carmen. I'm such a big fan. You've got
a new record out today from Australia's Funny. You're gonna
like the interview. We're gonna talk to Maddie in the Morning,
who is a Boston morning show host. He's been out
(00:22):
for forty years. I just want to know about the
eighties and the nineties. I mean, I've already done the
interview at this point. Uh, but man, this the career
the guy's had, because everybody and readio looks up at
this guy and he's been out for forty freaking years
and that's pretty cool. So we talked to him about that.
And you'll also hear Eddie and I talk about music,
which comes on about every other week or so. And
(00:44):
I have a jukebox and he's gonna suggest, now, I guess,
just tell me what five albums to put in my jukebox.
So that's all up there. That's all coming up as
always five new music selections. I am most excited about
this week at number five, the champion of the boy
Jake Hoot has released a song. It's a duet with
Kelly Clarkson. It's called I would Have Loved You. Check
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it out. What are the rest of now? I gotta
(01:30):
admit I don't watch The Voice, never heard of it.
Actually more of an American IVL guy myself. It got
pretty good. Jake Hoot, I never actually never seen him
on the show, but obviously guy can sing. You just
don't have a lot of people come from that show
that have careers because that show is so based around
the judges more than the contestants. And it's not a
slight toward anything, just as a good talent on both,
(01:50):
but it's just the the TV shows and what they're
made for. The Voice is made for which judge is
going to win. They keep tallies of judges and how
many champ Benship seasons they have, and it's great because
of that American idol is not yet famous judges and
an extremely famous mentor. But it's about, you know, the
careers of the artists. I mean, Gabby Barrett's freaking killing
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it and she was on with me three years ago,
you know, and it hasn't taken her very long, you know,
Lacey k Booth is gonna be kind of a force
in Nashville. I feel like Lane Hardy and so they're here.
But good for Jake Hoot pretty cool. At number four,
Eric Church has a new song called Heart on Fire.
Here you go soaking my soul in games. And at
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number three Heat Sanders he has a new EP out
I think it's four or five songs called common Ground.
Here is a song called Old School's in Love. Yes,
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the guy is really good. I mean his story is
he was working in an oil field in Arkansas. He
had posted a Chris Stapleton cover. I guess I had
some friends on Facebook that had some friends with his
on Facebook and they were like, hey, check this guy out.
And I'm always looking around a little bit and I
was like, holy crap. So I messaged him that he
didn't think it was me. So I had Morgan number
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one message him. We're like, hey, you're really He's like,
is this a joke? I thought his friends were messing
with him. And finally he got on a messenger with me,
knew it was me, and I said, hey, drive over
and come singing on the show. And he's like what
I said, Yeah, this is that like nine that night,
So he didn't drive that night, but the next day
he drove all the way over and I had set
(03:58):
up a segment with a few of Frint executives in
music and three different ones too kind of tell him
what they thought of a sound, if he should try
in Nashville, if he should keep playing the bars, and
so he could be played, And all three of them
really liked him, but one of them specifically was like, Hey,
you should just come with me, and so this executive
took him. They left signed a publishing deal like three
(04:21):
months later to write songs and get paid for it,
which turned into a record deal. He then moved from
Arkansas to Nashville, and this is his first first EP
on a real life label. I mean the guys, he's
really good. On my TikTok. You'll see a video of
him playing in studio and you don't hear the guitars
that much because I just wanted you to hear his vocals,
kind of a raw audio. But check out Heath Sanders.
He did. We brought him onto the Raging Idiots show
(04:42):
at the Rhyme and a couple of years ago and
he did faithfully Faithfully, which was really good. Maybe we
played that on Monday's radio show because his records out
and there was also a really good version of people
like that song, so we should do that, all right.
Heat Sanders is at number three. At number two it's
Matt Carney, who I'm such a massive fan of. Obviously
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he has a song called Powerless. Here it is, and
at number one it is Our guest will be coming
up in a little bit. Nikita Carmen. She put out
(05:24):
her debut album in the Garden. It's nine songs. I
think you're gonna like it. Here is a new song
from Nikita Carmen called Owned Roses? How call my own Roses?
Wasn't easy? I'm starting we not quite show at homeless?
Can you call it? And always starting needs somebody's laying
(05:46):
our roots me. Then I found out lonely somehow, Louise
I go my own Roses? Oh so check that out.
New releases. As far as albums, and Franco has a
(06:06):
record Revolutionary Love. Chris Bao of Vampire Weekend has Deadhead Control.
But there isn't a lot huh Nope, it's about it.
In the news, Chris Christofferson has quote quietly retired from music.
He's eighty four years old. He actually wrote, performed me
and Bobby McGhee and Janice Choplin made it a huge hit.
(06:27):
And she never got to see that song become a hit.
Did you know that she died? Died? Yeah, but yeah,
he wrote um and performed me and Bobby McGhee help
me make it through the night, Sunday Morning, coming down
for for the good Times. His son John is now
handling the family business. Dan and Shay will be the
headliners of Highway seventies seven Music Festival in September twenty one.
(06:47):
It's the Pro Football Hall of Fame Village it Canton, Ohio.
The bill also includes Kelsey Ballerini, Maddie and Tay, Eric
Passley and Tyler Farr. But we are now seeing announcements
for music, which is a big deal because we've seen
no new announcements of unknown projects, unknown festivals yet, you
(07:08):
know what I mean, only cancelations basically or or or delays.
So pretty cool. Let's let's hope everybody gets a vaccines
and let's rock. I'm still on that wait list, are you? Yeah?
I mean for when we're planning our wedding. I think
we're gonna be okay, and I'm not even sure and
it's after yours, So it's a good sign that promoters
(07:31):
are scheduling shows. Though it doesn't mean that a full
gathering of of thousand people are gonna be safe. But
you know what, it doesn't mean it's not in September.
I feel I feel okay about that. Yeah, the Beast Boys.
Mike d is selling his m t v v M
A moon Man and platinum plaques for charity. You can
view the entire lot of Beast Boys items over at
(07:52):
Southeby's and you can place bids um up until the
end of the day today or like two pm today.
If you're hearing this, you probably used it, but that
would be pretty cool. Beastie Boys mightkey used to give
any awards a group received to his mom saying they
weren't something need to look at. His mom passed away.
So he has stuff and he's auctioning it off now
to benefit good Eats, a program that feeds hungry elementary
(08:13):
school children on the weekends. But those guys just always
get back, huh. Phil Collins X is auctioning off his
gold records not for a good God that the same thing.
You know, that is not a good relationship. It's very messy.
You can now be the owner of Phil Collins Awards
or Gold Records on the cheap. She got the boot
from his mansion and then found a way to make
(08:34):
money auctioning off handbag shoes, even some of Phil's awards
and Gold records. That's that situation is just weird. Read
the TMZ stories about them. Would be kind of cool
to have it, though. I'd feel bad though, if I
own something that was his that he wants but she
got and it's sold. It's like having a stolen stereo
and you're like, I like it. I think it was
(08:55):
stolen from the guy across the tree that sheeron overtakes
John Mayer to cap to the Billboard chart record. His
surprise single after Glow just allowed him to pull past
John Mayer instead a new chart record. After Glow has
become its thirteen top ten Billboard Adult Pop Airplay chart song.
That's the most of any solo mall artists in the
twenty five year history. Elvis Is biopic casts Gary Clark Jr.
(09:17):
And Yola Pretty cool there, Gary Clark j Just to
play my excuse me, Gary Clark Jr. Used to play
my Austin local TV show back in the day and
used to see him out like all time eleven. I
mean he was in town. I'd see him all the time. Uh.
He needs to combine and be like, hey man, I'll
play the TV show all right, come on leting people
watch him a good luck. So that's your news, that's
(09:38):
your new music. Hang around. Got some pretty fun stuff
we're talking about this show. Appreciate you guys, if you
don't mind, go and rate this thing, give us a
bunch of stars and write a little review if you
have a second. We'd really appreciate that. And check out
Mike D's podcast movie Mike's Movie Podcast. What's on this week?
We're talking about ways to find out if a movie
sucks or not just by watching the trailer. And then
(09:59):
i'll actors who played the exact same role in every
single movie. Did you get any that, amc Stock? I
didn't know. Well, it went way up and then went
way down, and now everybody's all but heard about it.
So all right, cool, Thank you. Check out movie Mix
movie podcast, and away we go. So I had the
(10:20):
jew box in my house and when I bought this house,
and I was like walking through looking at it. The
owner had owned the jukebox and had left it there
to stage it to make it look cool, and I
was like, dang, that does look really cool. Like you
got me. I also want the jew box. So when
it was time to buy the house, inside of the negotiation,
I really wanted the jew box. I didn't know if
it even worked. I just knew it looked cool. You've
(10:42):
seen it. It's really cool. So being that we're in
Nashville and there's so much music here, there are a
few different people that specialized in juke boxes still today.
So it took me a bit because the pandemic to
get somebody to come to the house. And they did
and they were like, okay, we're looking through it. They
were like, dang, this has never been you And I
was like, is it records? I don't even get inside
(11:02):
of it. I don't gonna break it there, Like, no,
it's c D S. But it's never been used, Like
you probably sell this thing for like And I was like,
what now was it rigged to not take money or
do you still have to pay to play it? And
I think you can do either. One you start charging
for First of all, I was shocked that it was
that expensive. Now I'm like, I don't even want to
use it. It's that expensive. Um, but you just type
(11:24):
in a number and it flips and grabs the CD.
It was but empty, right, And so I don't own
any CDs anymore, And I thought, Okay has a hundred slots.
I'm gonna fill this with the one hundred CDs that
are like the best to me. And so I started,
and I've put three in so far. And the reason
that Eddie here, I'm gonna let him actually put five
CDs in this thing amazing. But the three that I have.
The first one I put in was John Merrick Continuum,
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which is probably my favorite album of all time period.
So what song do we have here, Mike? Stop this train?
My favorite song not only from this album but in
all of life. Do you remember track numbers? Yeah? Yeah,
this is probably seven seven seven to me? When we
had seven seven to me was always the strong track.
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I remember knowing. I remember going to the songs that
I like and being like, wow, that's seven to interesting.
Do you look up the number number seven? Nice? I
saw him, Mike, I was like, am ether very wrong
or I'm very right. I got it. But you know,
like track one on that record is waiting on the
World to Change. I believe you can in fact check
me correct. Come on, you know it? And that was
the big single, yeah, you know, and it did fairly well.
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But it was such a radio song, like if your
favorite artists song. If you if your favorite song from
your favorite artists a radio song. I don't really your
favorite artist. Oh that's not true. I don't agree with
that because better Man is my favorite. Pearl James what
a poser. I know every other song, but better Man
is my favorite. Um So, but I yeah, I really
hate the song and it starts off with this one,
(12:52):
like the two that I don't like all John Mayer.
I mean, I guess I still like, but I'm like, no,
thank you are your Bodies and wonder like such a
jam and waiting on the World to change. Yeah, So
I did put Continuum in, and then I put in
the Dixie Chicks their first record, the first, their first
big record, Wide Open Spaces. I'm trying that up a
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little bit. And then I put in Casey Musgrave's Golden Hour.
It's a good one, that's your I think I would
get all the Casey stuff in eventually. I don't want
to commit to all three records right now, but Casey's
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basically my favorite contemporary country artist. But those are three
I have put in. I have a have a stack
at the house, and there are hundred slots. Hundred slots, okay,
so the first three were those three, So ve for me.
I'm giving you five and who does that may make
this a bit and I just don'tant to let Mike
de pick one. He's gonna pick like Little Maria, some
punk or something. You want any of my music in there?
(13:56):
But I mean, but you want your jukebox bones to
be pretty eclect But no buddy would play Lamuria some
punk ban unless it's Mike. I got one that maybe
you would like. What Green Day Dukeye that needs to
go in. That's a good one. Damn you have that
time that was instrumental in my lifetime. To of course
it was Oh man, I think I'm gonna let you
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have that one. My yeah, I can't not do Green
Day Dukie. Do you have the time to listen to
me wine long views in that one? Yeah? Even myself?
Do you I'm going to play that one? I go
to your house. Okay, Eddie, have five CDs you get
(14:39):
to put in. This was probably the funniest thing I've
ever done for your for your podcast. Okay, I'm so excited.
I'll start with the least favorite that I think you're
gonna be like, no, dude, come on, but you need
this in your jukebox. And it's Bob Dylan Blonde on Blonde,
and I'll tell you why. This is just like a
woman and this is pivotal in Bob Dylan's career. Here
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it's a huge album because they started recording this album
in New York City when he was still a folk singer.
But he was like, I'm just not liking it. The
producer was like, I'm just not liking this folk thing anymore.
Let's go to Nashville and finish this record. And they
got the best musician, best session musicians in Nashville to
work on this record. I've read so much, so much
(15:20):
on this bones. It was recorded like two blocks from here.
This is this is the time when Bob started his
electric sound and very like this. We always sounded like no, no,
you you're you're gonna hear this album and then you're
gonna say dang, you know what, this is pretty cool. Okay,
turn this up a little bit. It was just like
a woman, baby kid to be blessed until she fun lissase.
(15:45):
I mean, I don't mind some Bob Dylan, but you know,
I'm not a huge You're gonna love You're gonna love
this one. And I've read again, I've read so much
on this that the sessions, this is how they would be.
He would he would tell all the musicians to show
up at a certain time and they would show up,
I think they were going to record, and he would
just go in the control room and write and they
would just wait. Uh that did like, and they would
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wait till two in the morning sometimes and then Bob
will be like, I got it, let's go and let's
play this. And they recorded everything live. So what you
hear is how their session went. And that's what it was.
I love it, Okay, Bob Dylan Blonde on Blind there's
one slot. No, you're gonna a count up. Yeah, it's
gonna get better, Okay, go ahead. And then my first
CD ever, it has to go in there. It's George straight,
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pure country more than like the hits or anything. It
was tough and there aren't. There aren't. There's only one
greatest hits out of this. I felt like it would
be unfair just to do the greatest hits. If you
want to do that with your ninety five, go ahead,
but I felt like you need solid albums. Pure country
is so good. It's got across my heart heartland, even
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with his son Bubba singing when he was a little
boy where the Sidewalk ends. This was my first CD,
and I got conned by my brother. Uh. He was like,
hey man, you you want to go half of me
on the CD, and then he kept it. I never
saw it, but it was my first CD ever to buy.
So that goes in your jukebox. All right, So far
Bob Dylan, George straight, pure and pure country specifically, Yes,
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that's the soundtrack track movie right. Next up, I had
to go Beatles Bones. I wasn't. I don't know that
I'm putting any Beatles in there until now, and so
I had to go Beatles, and I'm thinking, oh my gosh,
idow all the great Beatles albums, do we want to
go greatest hits? You could? But Bones, even the greatest hits,
they're all mixed in that they're all separated in their
(17:30):
different little subgenres of the Beatles. You want soup beetles,
that's one greatest hits. You want Psychedelic Drugs Beetles, that's
another one, you know like. So there's hard to find
one that's got all of them together. But I'm gonna
go Strawberry Um Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts, Hearts Club Band.
This has Strawberry Fields, Lucy and the Sky with Diamonds,
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A Day in the Life, a little help with my friends.
You need this one on there A right down, got
it thanks to good At. Yeah, that's good. You like
this one, don't you? Okay? So I can't have you
have a jukebox without Pearl Jam in it. And again,
this is hard because there are so many albums, and
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I couldn't do Vitology one time because you've got a
lot of throwaway tracks. I feel like Vitology was the
album that Pearl Jam said, you know what beep you like,
I'm just gonna give you trash. I'm gonna throw in
three or four good songs in here, and the rest
is gonna be garbage that only the fans are gonna
like and everyone else can go like suck on it,
(18:32):
like I feel like that's what they did with Vitology.
I love that album, So I'm gonna go with Ten,
the first album that the world heard and was introduced to.
UH introduced Pearl Jam to UH. It's got even Flow
Alive Jeremy Black. The cool thing about this album bones
And I remember this because of the jukebox in my college.
I would go play pool at the rec center and
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they had Ten in the jukebox. If you play the
last track release, it's thirty minutes because there's a hidden
track that goes on and on. It's just instrumental. So
I would do that to piss the entire wreck off.
It was so good. Hey, you played the last single
song for a quarter or whatever, and then it would
take forty minutes to go to the next what is this?
(19:14):
And the jukebox had to play because that was a
hidden track. That's dirty. There were some good hidden tracks
so back in the day, because now you can't do
that really because you can see the time on a
digital track, you see the track. But the County Crows,
you know, whenever they paid Paradise to put it, when
they did that, Johnny Mitchell song that was a hidden
track at first really is a hidden track, and then
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they ended up putting it on a later version of
it with Vanessa Carlton. The first one wasn't even with them.
Um the County Crows record with the fish ball in
the front. Yes, a Desert Life. Yeah, that one had
a hidden track and one small step for man to
three four. No, but then it goes into a different
little part. Yes, but there is The hidden tracks are
awesome back in the day. So this one has a
(19:57):
hidden track, okay. So we have Pearl, we have bobbed Ellen,
George Straight, the Beatles, Pearl, jam Tin okay. And lastly, dude,
this is the best CD I ever owned. Garth Brooks
the Hits. This is the one with his American flag face.
Is this one disk? This one disc bones and it
has everything I mean, friends and low places, the dance,
the River of Tomorrow never comes. I mean, this is
(20:19):
the one that I feel like I still have it
and I would like to gift it to you, but
I don't think it's playable. I played it so much
that it's all scratched up. Now I'll have to go
back and check. But this, to me, hands down, when
I was twelve eleven. My favorite thing in the whole
wide world. I can see the cover. Yeah, you know
(20:39):
what I'm talking about. His face is the American flag. Yeah.
I have a bunch of Garth Brooks records. Not the
hits though, how any how many albums are you gonna
go with greatest hits? Well, the next time I'm putting
in our Kenny Rogers Greatest Hits, so that one's cued
up to go in. Um. The next time, I loaded
up and then Hood the Blowfish, but not a good
hits the Cracter review. Yeah, so I basically idea, I
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do have some greatest hits, but I'm not being a
snob about it, because I thought about George Straight greatest Hits. Yes,
that'd be a good one. The Eagles greatest hits like nineteen, Yes,
that's a big one, you know, the kind of count
of Crow's greatest hits, but not really across the live Wire.
That's amazing, you know, Live in New York. The double album, yes,
(21:22):
one Acoustic elect Acoustic Reds the electric. Oh dude, so good.
I figured you were going to do that in your
own side and put that in mine. So I have
six records dad. Now at nine is Mikey put in
Green Day Doogie? Yeah? There is? This is basketcase? What
else was on this record? When when when I come around,
when I go, yeah, it's the jam long View obviously.
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Uh yeah, I was all alone. I was up with myself.
Was that a hidden tram? I thinking of you? Maybe, Mike?
Was that a hidden track? I think it was. I
was thinking of We played that at that school talent
show once we did, and everyone's like, okay, we did
it at and we did. I got a girl, she
looks real good. I gotta go, she admits, you know,
(22:05):
because I know I need you that song. Did you
know what you were doing when you would do that? Okay?
See I didn't either. And we would go to family
events like I'm I'm talking to my whole family, and
I would sing Crash Dave Matthews Band, and I was like,
hock up your skirt a little more and showed the
world to me and my dad and all my uncles
will be like, what's wrong with you? Are you singing
(22:25):
right now? We didn't know though, I had no clue.
Oh this was a jam tripping daisy turn it up.
I got a girl. She loves her, I got a
girl up. It was easy to play. There only three
(22:46):
of us today, and so the Dramma can do is
a little part Tanner. Our guitars play it up and
I can kind of sing this because it's like a
good good and then it kicks in right here, turn
it out here? I know, did I need not get higher?
And you guys do not even know? You have maybe
too young for this, your kids out there when crappy
(23:06):
music was awesome, this is there's a lot of it.
It's in the system though. Yeah, we have an alternative
station here in the building apparently, or we may have
we know nothing. Okay, that's what's up, Eddie, Thank you
for your time. Check out the Store Losers podcast, which
Eddie is on. What's going on over there? What are
you guys talking about now? Mostly mostly? I mean the
(23:27):
super Bowl was a big, big, big topic. Now will
be yeah, and now after this we'll probably go into
little college basketball. But we're trying to get more guests in.
We had Ryan heard recently. Um so do we just
realize there's a lot of country artists that we have
access to, obviously, but they're all a lot of sports
fans and the next time, Wenna try to get the
(23:47):
low Cash guys on here to talk sports and they
and they're both Tampa. That one of them lives in
Tampa now, so like, yeah, we'll talk to him soon.
Check out the Sore Losers podcast was Eddie Ray and
Lunchbox and that's what's up. Thank you all right. Nikita
Karmen is here. Nikita Karmen's new album, The Garden is
(24:10):
out today. It's nine songs. How pumped are you that
you finally have a big collection of music that's out
for people to have. I am so excited. I mean
I pretty much just listened to myself anyway on my phone,
and I'm like, people get to listen to me too.
Now let me play some of Pirates tonight. This is
track one on Nikita's album The Garden. Interested So you
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wrote this with Walker Hayes and Josh Jenkins. How long
ago did you write this one? I actually write this
one in Quarantine, So we wrote this over zoom. Was
that weird for you to write stuff on computer? Yes?
I know some people really like Walker really likes it.
I hate it still because why um, it's just like
everyone kind of stands it awkwardly and you kind of
don't want to talk over people, but it's like you
(25:06):
can't really read the room. But um, but I've written
a couple of songs I really like over it, so
I can't complain. Nikias from Australia, And I know you
went back home during some of the pandemic, but what
was crazy was watching your Instagram. You fly over, which
is fine, but then you actually can't get in the
country unless you stay in a hotel for two weeks
with no contact at all. Right, Yeah, it was so
(25:28):
strange to like land and like there's like army people
in the army scrubs just like lead you out to
a on a bus and you don't even know where
you're going until you get on the bus. So let
me get this straight. You get off the airplane, people
in like army gear as you would say, army scrubs,
they say, okay, come with us and get on this
this big bus with these other people, and you don't
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know where you're going. No, you don't know the hotel
you're staying in. And then when you're on the way
there they be like, hey, you're staying at the Marrier
in the Darling Harbor, which is that's where I was staying,
which is a five star hotel, but you don't really
get five Start dreaming. So did you have to pay
to stay there for fourteen days? Like the hotel rate?
Not the hotel rate, it's just like a fixed rate
of three thousand dollars. I'm still trying to get out
(26:10):
of it. So the New South Wales government is going
to chase me down. So you you stayed there, didn't
pay in the flew back to America and basically I
will't pay for it eventually. I'm just I'm just waiting
waiting for this album to blow up. Yeah? Yeah, then
is that money growing out of your ears? So what
do you do for fourteen days? And do you have Netflix?
You have room service? Yeah, I mean they supply all
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the meals, but it's kind of like airplane food but
probably worse. Could you order food if you wanted it?
You could order food, which I started doing because like,
the first meal I got was a bagel and cream cheese,
which doesn't sound horrible better it was like frozen still,
So I called up the desk and I was like,
do you guys have like a toaster or something I
can put this in and the person was like, we
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assure you everything is completely safe to eat. That was it,
and she goes, it might not be how you lie. Kids, Like,
did you do you feel like they treated you like
a lower class because you didn't check into the hotel
because you want to stay at the hotel, but because
you were kind of forced into there? Yeah? Probably, yeah,
you kind of it feels so weird, Like even getting
off the bus, it felt like kind of like getting
off the bus in prison. But I imagine what I
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would imagine that would be like, because people were walking
past the bus and they quickly put like walked away
from us and put a mask on, like don't go
near them, they're probably infected. Were you working the whole
time that you were in your hotel room writing or
did you just kind of get so bored that you
didn't know what to do? Yeah? I kind of started.
I tried to start writing stuff, but the walls were
kind of thin, and I felt like the people next
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to me, We're going to like hate me if I
kept seeing the same thing over and over again. So
I ended up just studying Gray's Anatomy again from season
one and then just playing my Nintendo Switch. Really were
you so bored? Surprisingly? Like the days went pretty fast
because I would sleep into like mid day, so then
by the time I had gotten up, I was like,
well half the day is always but then you would
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be able to go to sleep at night. Here was
a track too from Nikita Carmen. This is some of
her song better hap Thin sious, No no no No.
(28:22):
When I'm back home, your mom and dad were musical
there there there band was called Hotel Berland. Maybe is
that what it was? I met? I met Nikita's parents.
I wandered to Australia and met them. Did they want
you to do music? Um? They never really pushed it.
Actually because both of my sisters also sing and kind
of growing up, Mike, I was talking to my parents
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about this when I went back home. Um, how I
was like, I remember used to tell me I was
the worst singer out of a lot, and my Mom's like,
you were? Are you the best now or they just
both still that good? No, they're both good. I feel
weird saying I'm the best out, but I'm like, I
guess like my older sister did it professionally as well.
But in Australia, what was she doing professionally. She was
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just she's playing in the cover band. And I was
always like the writer though you were playing at a pub.
Whenever I met you, you were doing two things. You
were playing at a pub like on the weekends and evenings,
but you were doing photo editing all day long. Yeah,
and and the first time we had talked to you
were actually working in the in the photo shop. But
when you would play a pub in Australia, like, what
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does that look like? Are people eating? Is it a bar? Like?
What is that? Um? Yeah, it kind of depends when
when you would play, Like I would play on Thursday
night and that would get pretty rowdy. I would have like,
I have a funny story. I've had people throw coins
at me to shut up or to play something. Well,
I think they were tipping the Australians do it. And
then I've had people like goggling just milk in front
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of me and people just told me to be quiet
so they could hear the football behind me on the screens,
but they would play football. Is that soccer to you? Well,
it's rugby okay, wow, and football is three different thing. Okay,
So rugby over the top of you while you're playing. Yeah,
that's a bad situation for you to be in. Well,
it looks like people are looking at me at least. Yeah,
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so you're playing music while they have rugby over you
at times. Is that one of those jobs though, where
you have to learn basically every cover song just so
you can continue playing. Yeah, I mean it was a
three our gig and I would play some of my
own originals, but you know, you have to play stuff
to get people actually listening to you. So you know,
there's just like all the pub classics that really go
off in Australia, like Torn by Natalie Ambrolio, like stuff
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like that that can't really fail. What are the pub classics?
Give me the top five pub classics? Natalie and burle
a torn If you had to go to and you're like,
I know this is going to get them back, what
do you play? Wonder Wall by Oasis always, it doesn't
matter what age, everybody loves wonder Wall. That's too um
What else would I do? I would do we got
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it all day and hang up day. I'm curious to
know if you're like, all right, I know this one
really well, let me let me get back into this one.
Save tonight, I do that one eagle like Cherry Solid.
I'm gonna need two more from you though. See Better
Together by Jack Johnson always goes quite well, Jolane, Okay,
there you go, Joe did it, which the Jolyns story
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is pretty pretty funny as far as us together. Before
I tell that one, I'm gonna play track three called
eight Houses from Nikia Carmen crying out that room, saying
that he don't deserve you back when everything was really big,
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like it's sad too, Karen U Candy Haaschool, back when
everything was first off, it's something I dig in. We
gonna forget. The only thing on this right now means
we only have to walk, says Joe. Lene is funny
(32:02):
to me because and we'll get into how we met
in a second. But you were on stage. It was
your first time with the Raging Idiots. You were just
singing back up because you just come to America. And
I was like, all right, let's see what she does. Right.
It wasn't Joeling the song, Yes, that's what the first
one you played. Well, I played Somewhere with You by
Kenny Chesney, and then I said, hey, I may call
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you up to the front and you got your guitar
and you played somewhere with you La la la, la,
la la blah. And then I told Eddie, don't walk
out there because our show, and still a bit at
the time, was so much improvisation that I was gonna see,
let's see if she can handle herself. Let's not the
song is over, ever tell you the story. She just
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moved to America, she's with us. She walks out and
played her song, and I told the whole band, don't
go out there, Let's see how she does when her
songs over. Just stay out here. And so the song
is in the crowd class and then she's looking over
and we're not doing anything. We're just letting her see
what she does. She takes her guitar and goes and
starts going and Joline, it plays in the crowd, and
I was like, oh, yeah, she's good, she's good to go,
she's fine to be with us. Do you remember that
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you know where we were? I have no idea where
we were, like Richmond, Virginia, or do you remember the
night we were all in the back when we were
doing and no I would walk five and we all
blew out our voices and it was the same night
of the para shooting as well. Yes, I remember that
where they went into the theater and shot people kill people.
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That was my first trip when I came to play
with you guys, and I was like, this is America. Yeah, crazy, huh.
I wonder if that was the first night. Is that
the first night of the second night? I think that
was the second night we um Nikita and I met
because Eddie and I were doing raging idiot stuff and
I was like, man, I'd like to have a really
strong female. That's it's a little bit different. And so
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we had talked to like thirty females to be in
the group, and none of them were like to us
something that was, you know, a little quirky, a little different,
but still really good. And then finally someone was like, hey,
we have this girl in Australia, but she can't come.
She got to talk to you one um and like
spacetime or maybe Skype, and so they're like when they
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put her up on the screen and she's like, Hey,
I'm in the hallway at my wedding photo editing place.
And then she had her guitar and she replayed the
hallway right, and we were like dang. And I got
a credit Gordon at Black River because I was like, hey,
I would like to have her over here, and he
was like, okay, well fly it flew over and she
stayed you have it. You've lived here since? Yes. That
(34:38):
was Yeah, that was insane. And I remember telling my mom.
I was like, so I'm going to go to America
to go and meet a guy on mom Internet. But
it turned out to be quite advantageous actually, and I'm
pretty good guy. It's true. We wikipedia you and Mom's like,
I think he's famous. So that situation happened. She comes
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here then she we weren't doing the big shows, but
she was. You were opening and just killing and merch
and selling CdSe. People were just blown away by her.
Um and I remember we had a talk and I said, hey,
I think you should start to do stuff without me,
like start to do your own thing. So I'm gonna
give you the option. You can come and open for
me for this tour or you can go and do
(35:24):
other things that you can pick either way. And you
picked not to open for me, and then like two
months later, you're like, she was like, oh crap, I
should open for you? Not wrong? Here is came close
from Nikita Krmen again. Your parents in that eighties band
(36:02):
Hotel Berlin. What success did they have? Um? Not very much? Um.
I mean they had like fun, they weren't really like professional.
They had some pretty amusing music video clips they shot
in the backyard of our house. Are they still for
fun playing any music at all? None? No? I mean
my mom just sings all the time anyway. Still she good? Yeah?
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Do you remember the first song you learn my guitar? Um? Yes?
It was Sooner or Later by Michael Toulture and then
closely followed by Hands by Jewel. Do you still know them?
I don't think I would know Sooner or Later. I
don't even know what this song is the Australia We'll
be Looking bad everything. You always know every song? Yeah?
(36:47):
That's that must be a crappy one. It must only
know only the ones that aren't. Mike. Do you know
that song? No? I can't even find it. You have
an identical twin sister, How's desire doing? She's good? She
actually co wrote one of the songs on the album me.
Did you guys do that over over like Sky or Zoom?
Or did you do it at home. She just kind
of like wrote like the start of it, and then
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she sent it to me and I was like, look,
the start of the chorus is pretty good art and
I can work with that. And then I ended up
just changing a few things around, and then I didn't
tell her it was going to be on the album
until me and Walker cut it and I was like,
here you go. So she'll make like eight dollars that's cool. Yeah, yeah,
us so would be pretty good in Australia. Is the
money if you have ten dollars here, what do you
(37:29):
think it is in Australia? Is it more than ten
dollars there? Yeah? Are you a makeup artist? Well, I
am trained as a makeup artist back in Australia. What
it's it's just something that I learned for fun. But
are you a certified makeup You got you got a certificate?
I don't know if it's like a I don't know
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how like you check if they're like legit or not.
But I did a class. Could you do my makeup?
And it'd be fine? Oh my god, I loved you.
I'll be watching so much RuPaul's drag Race. I don't
want to makeup, makeup on a man you know who. No,
I don't want to make up you know who's been doing.
So on my nat Geo show, we went out and
we have a really small crew because of COVID. So
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we have our you know, nine or ten guys that
are on the crew crew, but you can't bring anyone
on unless they have a specific job, which I guess
in the old Wild West two years ago, everybody could
come on party have a good time, but they were like, hey,
nobody can come on because of COVID. And so this
show doesn't require a lot of hair and makeup. Some
but sometimes we don't get dunked in the water or
(38:34):
I'm hanging out over the Grand Canyon. It's not like
they're paying attention your makeup. But so I told Caitlin,
I said, hey, why don't you come on as my
hair and makeup artist. She's like, I don't know what
I'm doing, Helly, who cares? And so I was like,
just just put some bas stuff on me, made me
look good, and so for like the last three months
she actually getting pretty good at it now. But she
has been my hair and makeup artist and now she
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does it for the opery as well, and now she's
like ordering stuff, you're watching YouTube stuff and so now
she's she's doing that. But if she ever goes down,
I'm gonna call you. But no, eyeshadow, that's the only rule.
It's gonna be really hard for me to like not
go all out. This is not Ruth Paul's drag race.
This record you did? You wrotever song? Yes? Was that
important to you? Yes? I don't really have any like
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interest in singing something I didn't ride, mainly because the
writing is my favorite pot of the whole thing. So
that was kind of super important. Here is a great
goose before I play that? What's what's is great goose?
About the alcohol? Um, it's actually about my boyfriend, the
one you have now, Yes, okay, go ahead. So it's
just about meeting him in a bar. And I kind
of just wanted like a fun, like bad, cheesy pick
(39:41):
up line love song. Okay, let me hear this. Sys
Wy died walk ahead to produced the record the whole thing.
(40:07):
How was that? It was so much fun? I was like,
I mean, when I've recorded in the past, it's been
in big, fancy studios, and we ended up recording all
of this in his house, which was funny. He would
just he would stop me singing and be like sorry,
I have to tell the kids to shut up, and
be like, please keep it down. He's got a lot
of kids. Yeah, six right, yeah, six kids. Yeah, And
(40:28):
you know, I did a couple of songs with Walker
back in the day. Did Ima stay with Walker? He's
so encouraging. He's like, yeah, that's it and really it
wasn't it, but he but he was so encouraging that
it made me want to do better. Did you find
he was that way with you? Yeah, That's what made
it such a like easy and fun process because it
wasn't like everything was like has to be perfect. It
was kind of just like just just fill it out
(40:50):
and see what sounds good and yeah and then he um.
He told me that he doesn't know how to do
any pitch corrections, so that kind of was a bit
of an ego boost. So you had to sing it
right on. Yeah. I did an episode recently on this
podcast about artists who don't like performing their biggest hits.
Is it true you don't like performing out of the park?
Absolutely true. That's that's our biggest streaming song, right, I know,
(41:15):
I know, and I should. I should love to play it.
But how many streams out of the park when you
look on our page? Well, I'm on a different thing. Okay,
this song was bout like this one? Still you do? Yeah?
Interesting to s use bad one? Lan is waist fatting
at Jim. Why don't you like playing it? I don't know.
(41:37):
I feel like I sound so like different. I don't know.
When you hear you sing, there's no accent. Yeah, sometimes
I put my accent in if I want something to rhyme.
Oh that's an interesting technique. Maybe I should just be
like a British accent. I don't want rhymes happening crazy
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to sin That was love over Days, Get it out.
That's a good song, alright, mine, I like it. Yeah,
don't be a hater towards your old music. Alright, you're
basically radiohead right now. I'm coming back around to it.
(42:21):
You're right. Your next single is own Roses. Yes, yeah,
let me hear some of this. How go my own room?
It wasn't easy. I'm sorry. Not show it home and
you grow it in always thought and lead somebody to
lame my roots me, but then found lonely somehow in
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Louise my own Roses. Why did you pick that one
a single? Well, the title of the whole project is
called the Garden, so and that's from a that um
is from the own Roses. That's pretty much like I
got the garden I deserved, And it's just kind of
about my whole journey, like moving to Nashville and kind
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of starting from scratch again. So I just feel like
that was the best choice. And it made me cry
when I wrote it, so I thought that maybe people
would also cry. You made yourself cry. I don't think
I've ever created anything that made me cry. It's so
beautiful what I just did. Even when I wrote, like
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my first book, there was really sad stuff in there,
and maybe I would get emotional remembering the sad stuff.
But I've never created anything that evoked. And I've heard things,
have seen things, but I've never created something that went
like that thing I just created touched me so much.
I mean I cry really easily anyway, So it's not
really like me clapping myself, to be honest. Let me
(43:58):
play the Sister that you and the song You and
your sister co wrote. This is Surprised from Nikita Carmen
and desiree King Jack. I saw that some of the
big streaming service would give you some awesome spots. That's
(44:21):
gonna be exciting. Yes, Like I saw a big Spotify
thing for you. That's that's super cool. Yeah, I know.
It's like it makes such a difference when you release
something and you like wake up in the morning and
you're like, this is um like put on playlist that
maybe more people will actually listen to it. Yeah, maybe
somebody here and they goes, hey, what is that? Oh
cool and put a heart on it and save it
and then play it more and then maybe they're a
fan of your music, and that's pretty cool. Yeah. Then
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you know, I'm always putting you on the national I
Heart Women Country show. I get so excited. Yeah, have
you ever heard it on the radio? No, you're probably
not the country for a lot of that this weekend.
It's on this weekend. Well, let me just sit in
the car and just listen to that. So you go
and then record a video and be like I'm on
the radio. Yes, I have a good car now that
has like a a radio that what I saw a
jet drive in here. He just kind of sat there
(45:04):
for a minute. You're out a weird spot in the yard,
and I was like, is she gonna drive over here?
I was thinking about it. I guess I haven't seen
you since I moved, and so you drove here and
you're like, what is what's happening? Yes? Pretty much? Uh
you fun fact Nikita was the first ever episode of
the Bobby Cast, except that was an unreleased episode where
(45:25):
we just tested the equipment. Oh my god, I was
going to say that when I came in and I
was like, I've actually I remember me and a mad
but your first guests and I did it together. Well
he did one as well. I think that's true. I
think so well. I mean it went to trash it.
We were just we're just seeing if the microphones worked.
And so now here you go. You put out a
whole record and now you're on for real. You didn't
want to go on the first time anyway, that that
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that didn't count. This is the real one. All right?
Let me have one more song here? Why don't we
play picture Me? You wrote this one by yourself. Yeah,
what's this about? It's about my ex boyfriend? Just what
is your current boyfriend thinking abou your ex boyfriend? In
the song? Um, oh, my boyfriend never pays attention to
the lyrics and anything I write. I will send him
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like the most beautiful love song. And then I was
like did you like it? And he's like, oh, I
wasn't really listening. Okay, here you go. We don't have
to talk. We talk, just ship al see see all
actually seeing him fall and actually not seeing him call
(46:28):
and actually, do you send this to your ex boyfriend
to go? He wrote the song about your heads up?
Absolutely not no, no, he would not want to hear this.
Do you keep up with them? Do you know what
he's doing? Um? Not really? I mean I saw him
at a wedding when I went back to Australia. Actually,
this is when I went back with my current boyfriend,
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so and his mom was there too, so that was fun.
It was weird. Yeah is your current boyfriend bigger than
he is? Yeah? Yeah? Nice? One final song this is
then some It's Nikita with Walker Hayes. I'll get all
you and me get back, I'll get you and then
(47:18):
getting st close just me. I just don't get all
I'll get really feel smiling on your faceless a little too.
I could call it when, but I'm Nasha if you say,
can go right. You have a greyhound too now and
(47:41):
fostering one. I saw that on your Instagram. He is
an absolute nightmare. Oh we have a new dog. She's
a nightmare too right now. I don't know, like I'm
not used to it either, because I mean, Pim's my
other greyhound. She was a nightmare, but she was really
like scared and shy. Whereas this dog, I'm like, I
swear this isn't a grayhound is like a great Dane
and he just steals everything. Well, congratulations, you got a
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whole record out called the Garden is out today. I
hope you guys that are listening check it out at
Nikita Carmen on Instagram and I K I T A
K A R M E N. Nikita Carmen. I'm proud
of you. Thank you. You glad to move to Nashville.
I'm glad I missed. Yeah, I'm glad I did that
little edition. I have a scrap. Okay, there she is, Mike,
(48:28):
anything you want to say, just play out of the
park next time. Yeah, so I'll be in such a
snob all right, I'll play it. Thanks for having me,
Thank you? All right there she everybody check out the garden.
There she is, Nikita, Carmen, Mattie. How are you it is?
It's great to talk to you, man. I know, I
haven't seen you since I was up in your building
and just trying to get a luxie in your studio
(48:51):
to see the legend. I remember peeking in there and
I was like, I don't want to bother him, and
there he was with all my eyes. Yeah, yeah, come on, man,
well you're you're the kid. That's not true. If you
have to ask, what's that show? You know? I ain't
the king? Yeah I heard, I heard about it. I'm
(49:12):
more like you got you ever to play Bryce records
on your show? I have before? Yes, I'm that's okay.
Well let's celebrate you. I don't. I'm not here to
talk about me. Listen, I'm so over me. I talked
about me all the time. But you know, when I
was reading about how you had spit just celebrate your
forty year anniversary doing mornings they're working in radio, I
(49:33):
was like, holy crap, Like I can only dream of
having a career that's two thirds of that, honestly, Like
you've just been at such a high level for so long.
And I hit up Mike, and I said, hey, see
if Maddy, because I don't want to reach out because
if you say no to me, my feeling is gonna
be hurt. But if you say no to Mike, I'm like,
he just didn't want to do it. So I said,
reach out to Maddie and see if he wants to talk,
(49:54):
because I have a bunch of questions about his radio career.
So I appreciate you humoring me here. Oh boy, are
you kidding me? You really want to put me on
your radio show all over the country. Of course you're
the man. What do you want to know? Well, let
me start with because you you know, you started in
as far as Kiss one Await where you still are,
and so I'm just curious about the eighties in general
(50:17):
and how in radio, like I assume there are a
lot of big stars that would come through and pop
it on your show in the eighties. When you think
about that and people you actually met in the eighties,
who was it that you still look back and go, Man,
that was really freaking cool that I met them? Oh well,
was cool? Oprah? Back then? Yeah, back then, the early
early days, not even the biggest of your life, but
(50:39):
in the because for me in the eighties, it was
like one years old. So like I looked, I look back,
and I'm like, man, what was it like? Have someone
come in the radio station in the eighties and you're
on in Boston, You're rocking the whole place, like who
comes but as Madonna come by? In the eighties. Did
you ever meet the Beastie Boys? Yeah? Yeah, oh those people,
(51:01):
you know, all the Toms, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, uh,
Arnold Schwarzenegger, who else came by? I mean everybody. Yeah,
back in those days, um, before the internet and everything. Uh,
celebrities went to radio stations. You don't really see that anymore.
They come to see you because you've got a national show.
But you know, for just one market guy like me. Nowadays,
(51:24):
you know, they don't travel like they used to. But
back then, anybody on a movie or anything toward the country,
So yeah, we had everybody. So did you ever see
someone back in like the eighties late eighties and then
you ran into them like twenty years later and they
just kind of they weren't what they used to be,
and maybe back then they were kind of a jerk
(51:44):
to you, and you're like, uh huh, see what happens?
You want to ask me a people I know know
that crest and burned. I was asking. I was asking
that a nicer way. I was trying to go around, then,
a nicer way. You are people that I met that
now are nobody. Again, I'm not saying nobody. From my experience,
there have been people that have come in my studio
(52:05):
and really treating me like crap at one point, and
then all of a sudden they hit a down spur,
and now all of a sudden they're trying to be
your best friend again. And I'm like, were you treating
me like crap? The last time I saw you? Were
dark boy? You had all my whole life people and
Larry King just died. I've met him, you know. But no,
(52:26):
I don't have a list of people who well come
of them. I mean I had, oh, what was his um,
Michael Douglas's brother. You know, he came in and he
was doing uh uh cocaine on the show. And then
indeed a little while later, does that count. Yeah, that's
a great story. He was doing coke. Oh god, he
(52:46):
was so mad at me. Oh my god. He literally
he was sniffling, and I said, you know, could I
give you a tissue which is like a tissue and
he got all mad because he equated that with the
fact that he was doing blow right there in this studio.
I didn't mean anything by it, you know, do you
do you remember back your very first break doing the mornings,
(53:06):
and you know when when the show launched, and any one, well, uh,
I was I was a rocker, you know, and I
got this job at Kiss and back then, uh, they
were changing from disco, but they were still kind of
a disco station really when I started, and I was
a rocker, so it was humiliating to all my friends.
(53:27):
And I worked at kids, you know, disco songs and
all that. Yeah, I really wasn't I couldn't really tell
anybody that I went to Kiss there, I honest to God,
ask to God. I had a girlfriend at the time.
I wonder whatever happened, But I said, look, I had
(53:48):
a TV show, late night TV talk show, and they
hired me a Kiss and I said, you know, I'm
a I'll see so you know, I went to the
boss of the TV station and I said, you know,
I got this offer for you know, a radio thing.
But I don't know if I mean I'd rather stay
on TV, and the guy looked at me and smiled
(54:08):
and said, take the radio gigs. So you know, I
appreciate his honestly. That my TV career was coming to
an end, you know, And I went to Kiss and
I told my girlfriend at the time, I said, I'll
do it for a couple of months and then I'll
go back on TREV. So that was literally almost to
the day, forty years ago. I was here. I am
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still here, Yeah, still here. I was watching the BGS
documentary on HBO Max where they talk about you know,
they had many sounds, but their biggest was Saturday at
Fever the soundtrack, and then once Disco died, they went
from being cool to being basically, you know, a fry
where nobody wanted to deal with them at all because
everybody was embarrassed by Disco. Do you remember that at all? Sure?
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What else? What I was saying, I mean, like, how
could you like my friends, you know, my stoner rocker friends.
You're going to work for Kiss? Went await that disco station?
I said, Well, I lost my TV gig and they're
the only ones that called me, you know. So yeah,
but again, I was only going to do it for
a couple of months, and I don't know if something
happened and I'm still here. Do you ever have celebrities
(55:15):
over to your house. I had a studio in my
house at one point and I was talking to Al
Gore and he was running for president. He was at
the time the vice president of the United States. And
my twin girls, who were like, I don't know, five
years old at the time or something, came blasting into
the studio, killing each other, you know, pulling air and
(55:37):
yelling and screaming, and I to deal him on the
air right now, girls with the vice president of the
United States that they didn't seem to care at all.
They didn't care at all. Yeah. Do you know if
Tom Brady listened to your show? I hope he didn't
listen to the show this year down on well, he
(55:57):
left us. You know, Bob, you can't do that. You know,
we're all rooting for him now going to the super Bowl,
But God, earlier this year the way he left and
you know, most commercials, I'm not going into where I'm
still here. He was lying. You took that pretty hard, huh. Yeah.
I interviewed Tom one time and he was at a studio,
(56:22):
went Tom ready, kind of you go to him, you know,
he didn't come to us. And uh, he was getting
blonde tips of his hair. It's kind of, you know,
for a regular old rocker guy. I was sort of embarrassing.
You know. Did you like it? Did you like Tom
like as a guy? Was he a cool guy? Well?
(56:43):
Like I said, he was getting blonde there. I'm going
to come with this. You know, it's not how I
was raised. Yeah, he was. Okay, he was a pro.
You know, it was good. Most of the people. I'm
sure you've found the same thing, Bobby, that most of
the people you made are fine, are nice. We only
have a couple of bad ones, you know, until will
(57:05):
never have her on again? Okay, nice, Now we're getting somewhere.
Marissa Tomy, what happened? Because I listen, I can give
you Wendy Williams is the worst I've ever interviewed. Will
never have her on again. She's awful, Her husband tried
to beat her husband tried to beat me up after
Wendy Williams the talk show host awful. Yeah, and you
know what else is bead um? Oh, Drew Barrymore, what
(57:30):
happened there? Well, Usually the ones that are bad are like, um,
you know, they make a movie and they're supposed to
go see the movie before they come on. And so
when she realized I didn't see her movie, she had
had attitude, you know, like she goes like, whoa, what
do you mean you didn't see my movie? And I go, whoa?
(57:53):
You ever heard my radio show? So you know, hey,
yeah that's not right. But yeah, and then there was
the guy doing blow in the studio. I told you
about him. You ever think of writing a book? For
the most part, guys, everybody was. You know, it's been
a great run. You know. Let me ask about radio
specifically for for a minute. How many phone calls back
(58:15):
in like the nineties and early two thousands would you
get for song requests versus now? Because it's just not
the same animal as far as getting in touch with us.
But that's so weird you should say that because we're
just talking about that today. Yeah, people are different, they don't.
I mean, people listen to the radio in the car,
but you know, their favorite songs, they've already you know,
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heard them, you know, whether it be our app, the
I Heart app ordor Pandora or Spotify or you know
what I mean, Like, you're right that people in modern
times have so many ways to get the music. The
funny thing is it's good for business because you know
they're not coming for the music. They're coming for for us,
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mostly you, but a little bit of me, you know
what I mean, a lot of you. If you had
to pick the number, this is a tough one. The
number one most requested song of your career, where you're like,
this song was so freaking big you couldn't turn a
corner and it would not be splashing right in front
of your face. What's the number one most requested song
of your career? But I don't really listen to the music.
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But that doesn't mean you're not in the room or
you're not with a program director. So yeah, I mean,
they like even nowadays, like just In just like for
me the music I listened to country music. I was
listening to you way little longer than I would listen
to me. For Oh my god, I would like to
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ever heard of Justin Bieber song play every five minutes?
Oh it's awful. Which one are you playing? I'm find
of Justin Bieber? Which song do you hate the most?
I hate the most? H lonely lovely. Yeah. Yeah, it's
not even good yodeling. It's like gooler. You know, I
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would like it. It's not it's bad yodeling, you know.
Oh man, I like it. I think that's a pretty
good song. But that we have different tastes obviously. Um. Well,
you know what's weird when you do a country show.
That's what I like. On my fortie anniversary, Lee Brice
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calls me right and I lovely Bryce, you know, because
it's our song, my wife and I it's our song
hard to love. You and your wife have been together
for how long? What's the what's the what's the key
to that? That that successful marriage? We um acknowledge it
(01:00:51):
that having a really good marriages. Um, it is rare
at times. And uh and we're really good at that,
really good at Um. Well, it's a it's an. It's
an it's another Lee Bryance song. You know. The song
was a love like crazy or ever and he said,
never get too old to call her baby, and you
know overuse I love you tell you Lee, Bryce is
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my god. You are literally is You're a real life
Lee Brice fan. You've not quoted two songs. Yeah, yeah, so, um,
not legit, I mean, but I'm glad you asked because
that's of of my life. Uh. You know, I've been
married before, so I know what a bad marriage feels like. Um.
And so we're very lucky, and I'm I'm lucky. I
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don't know if she's lucky, but I'm lucky. You know,
we have a great marriage. What time do you wake
up in the morning these days? A couple of minutes
before the show starts? You know, do you have to
do right? Do you have a fancy driver? Does someone
drive you to work? No, I'm out of my house now,
okay with the pandemic, Yeah, I'm moved. I don't even
(01:01:58):
live in Boston anymore. Wait, that's not true. I don't
know if you're messing with me or not. No, I'm
not messing me. I live in Florida. I lived in
Palm Beach, yep it is. Did the listeners know that, Well,
they didn't know that the first year. Well it was
the pandemic. Then, like I had a place in Florida
(01:02:19):
and we were down here a couple of winners ago.
And you know, I was broadcasting from a studio down
there in West Palm And Um, so with the pandemic
and craziness, and we were number one in the ratings,
so you know, I kind of do what I want.
And um, I asked if I could build a studio
(01:02:40):
in my house and broadcast from my house and they
said sure. And you know, like I see my whole
team on screens and everything. You know, do you think
you'll do well? You do that for the rest of
your career? Oh god, you think I'm going back to
Boston five degrees there? I got off the golf course.
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Are you kidding? Yeah? No, I ain't tol him back.
I mean I miss it. I mean I love that
town and they were great for me and still are.
But you know, I mean I'm on you know, I'm
on the I want the back nine. Actually I'm walking
off the eighteen fairway right now. And how much longer
can I do this? That's the question. How much longer
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do you plan to do that? I mean, I got
a couple more years of my contract. Um what I
would I'd like to have the Howard Stern deal or
you work like three days a week. I'd be good. Um,
but yeah, I like the money, you know, I mean.
So they answer a question a couple of years. Problem.
At what point in your radio career did you feel like, man, financially,
(01:03:45):
like I'm doing pretty freaking good. Didn't quite expect it
like this. Well, I I don't know how much you
make more than I should, Maddie. Yeah, I don't make
Bobby Bone's money, but you know, you know, well, with
seven figures out, I've been making like I can't believe
they're paying me this money probably ten years. Yeah, and
(01:04:09):
they've been great. I mean, you're an I heeart guy.
You know, they good little company. They take care of us.
I think that they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
Well do you still enjoy it? I'm gonna ask you
that here you are forty years then you wake up
in the morning. It's it takes me about an hour
to get into the show before I start to feel loose.
But do you ever do you still enjoy it? I do? Well.
(01:04:30):
First of all, they're like my best friends. I mean,
Billy Costa, who is my you know wingman on the show. Uh,
he worked best friends in real life and he's my
best friend. So I do the show with my best friend.
So that's like really great. Uh. The downside is, you
know a lot of this stuff. We talked about his
(01:04:51):
top boy station. You know, like, do I care that
holds me is having a baby? I mean no offense,
but someone saying that's best the downside, you know, but
other than that pretty good. Why not flip over and
go do talk or go? Do you know a format
where the audience is a bit older? They pay me
(01:05:13):
millions of dollars to talk about all these pregnancies so
that it leaves you know, I mean it's kind of
like the thing about it, that's that's so unbelievable, and
I know you can relate to this, so unbelievable that
there are all these people out there who you know,
have how do I put this, have a fondness for me?
(01:05:36):
You know, I don't. I can't believe it. Like you know,
you say, I'm humble. I it's more than humble. It's shocking,
you know, it's just shocking that I you know, I
go to a restaurant and Boston and everybody comes over.
It's high, and that's like whoever would a dream bass?
That's crazy? Did you ever have an issue with crazy
(01:05:57):
is coming to your house or physically threatening you? Amazingly? No,
I mean sort of kind of once. Um, you know,
back when I was single, and you know, maybe uh,
you know, I think one time, I like, what are
those in the days where you do gigs or clubs.
You know, you'd be out and you'd be buzzed and
(01:06:20):
maybe occasionally say the wrong thing to a girl that
was attached to someone much bigger than me. You know,
stuff like that a couple of times. But nothing politically.
You know, I'm not a Trump fan, so when I
find say stuff about Trump that's negative, you know, I've
(01:06:40):
gotten a few emails, you know, um, you know, shut
up and play a record or whatever they say. But
never anything. I've never felt in danger. I knew a
guy and Tusun Arizona killed. Remember that story. This is
a long time ago. No tell me about it. He
got shot. I got shot. He said something. You know,
(01:07:01):
somebody pulled up to him and the car and shot him. Imagine. Man, No,
I have been very lucky in that regard. Did they
shoot him because of something he said on the air?
I got shot? Yeah? It was it because he says
something on a show that that irritated someone. Yeah, I
don't know, I mean that was the guest. I mean,
it could have been a loved one. You know, it
could have been a jealous guy or something, but you
(01:07:21):
know he was literally leaving the radio session in his car.
When you were a morning guy at Kissed One Away
when it first started or even the nineties, did you
ever have any other radio guys you looked at it said, dang,
like I admire what they're doing. I'd like to do
something not the same, but I'd like to kind of
have that same path. Well, when I was coming up,
I grew up in New York, and you know there
are a lot of New York guys and the rock
(01:07:42):
stations that I liked. Um, they're all along gone now.
I mean, um, yeah, I mean yeah, Jimmy Rabbit, you
just gotta go way back. Jonathan Schwartz out of New York.
I was a fan offest. Um, we're you're talking been
a thousand years ago, you know. Um when I first started,
(01:08:06):
and I, um, I didn't not add Top forty. You know,
I was a rocker, I was saying. And so they
sent me to l A and sitting with Ricky's. Remember
Ricky's do it? Well? Yeah, yeah, the company sent me
to sit in with rick and you know, watch what
he does, but we have a very different kind of show.
(01:08:27):
How was he? How was rick D's to you when
you met him? Polite? You know, we're from you know,
it's very different, is the Southerner. And he said to me,
so you're of the Jewish faith that I'm an Oh boy,
where's this going? You know, it's like memory of Ricky's.
But it was fine. That's it's much better than me.
(01:08:50):
How how good are you a golf now? I would
always hear that you would leave the show, finish your meetings,
and you have a tea time basically every day. Yeah,
but that there's no reflection on my love of the
game and my ability to play the game. That they
don't jubtail at all. You would think that amount of
golf I play that I would somehow have gotten the
(01:09:11):
hangout it, but you know I haven't. Yeah, I think
I spend more money on golf ball than anything. What's
your hand what's your handicap? Though, Let's be real, I'm horrible,
like a seven, you know, like, yeah, I mean I
should be better than that, but go yeah, well I
(01:09:32):
look at you and dancing with the stars, you're probably
like a nine. I mean, if I'm really playing a lot.
I just travel so much. I've probably about an eleven
right now, I knew it. Yeah, well you're that guy. Hey,
you know when those black glasses you wear, is there
a prescription in there? Absolutely no. My right my right
(01:09:52):
eye doesn't work at all, and that's part of the issue.
And in my left eyes fading as well. So I'm
kind of dealing with two different issues. Want to protect I.
I that's the only good eye, and you know the
other one is actually a working lens. So yeah, that
I'm definitely, you know, vision impaired. But do you ever
talk to anybody or Asian or anything about doing contacts
(01:10:14):
or something, because that's like it's sort of like you're saying,
you know, well, I'm such a generic white guy, Like
I'm just I'm not that good looking, but I'm okay,
I'm I'm not extremely tall, but I'm tall enough. Like
everything about me is just average. So yeah, through default,
the glasses just kind of became my thing because I
had nothing else about me. So I got a contact
(01:10:37):
about three months ago for the first time ever because
I have a new show that's coming out of that
GEO and Disney plus a TV show, and I have
to do some really crazy like active stuff, and so
I got it just in case I lost my glasses,
but otherwise I I wore my glasses. But hey, listen, listen,
let me say this. I know that you've been, you know,
a little funny with me. You kind of put down,
(01:10:57):
you know, you acting like it's not a big deal.
But let me, oh you. I admire you as a talent.
I admire your longevity. I admire all the rules that
you broke that allowed me to come along and kind
of rebreak those rules and not get in as much
trouble for it. And so you are massive to our industry.
You are massive to Boston obviously a talent that I
(01:11:20):
love so much. And you know, obviously I don't live there,
but we're up there enough that I really feel like
I love the people, and I just wanted to say
thanks for what you do. You really set a great
example for someone like me. Well, I don't know what
to say, man, that just I'm you know, I don't yeah,
I mean, like to me, it was like, just kept
going to work and pay me, and so I go
(01:11:40):
to work. But that's the fact that you feel that way,
And I mean, my career means something to your careers.
It's wonderful and honor that you feel that way. Well, congratulations,
I aspire to have the longevity that you have, and
thank you for spending a few minutes with Matty. Appreciate that. Well.
I I can't say this enough. I just so flattered
(01:12:02):
that you feel this way. I got the call to
talk to you, and I go Bobby Bones on a
hundred radio stations and TV and all that stuff. I'm
just like a little DJ in Boston. So the fact
that you feel that way is, you know, you just
it's great. I really flattered. I'll let you get back
to your warm lifestyle. It is twenty three degrees here
(01:12:24):
right now, and hopefully one day i'll see you again.
Let me ask you before you go. Yeah right, I'm
trying to hit a draw off the tea and I
can't do it. It keeps on loosening it to the right.
You're right, you're right handed, I'm assumed assuming yes, yeah,
I'm not finishing. Is that what I'm doing? So I'm
left I'm left handed, and I have to finish extra
hard to get that draw because I have a lot
(01:12:45):
of trouble closing my hands. Just as an instinctually, I
don't close my hands as much as I should, and
so I I really have to get my my elbow in.
I'm not telling you how to win your club, but
for me have to make sure my elbow is in in.
And then I'm already turning my hands earlier than I
think I should. Don't listen to my tip, but that's
what I have to do. That's a fantastic tip. And
(01:13:07):
you know, someday we'll meet in person, and uh, we'll
have a couple of beers. All right, Mattie, see you later,
all right, bye bye,
M H welcome, Welcome mucho mucol, Bobby Cast to seventy nine.
Thank you for hanging out. We will talk to new
artist Nikita Carmen. I'm such a big fan. You've got
a new record out today from Australia's Funny. You're gonna
like the interview. We're gonna talk to Maddie in the Morning,
who is a Boston morning show host. He's been out
(00:22):
for forty years. I just want to know about the
eighties and the nineties. I mean, I've already done the
interview at this point. Uh, but man, this the career
the guy's had, because everybody and readio looks up at
this guy and he's been out for forty freaking years
and that's pretty cool. So we talked to him about that.
And you'll also hear Eddie and I talk about music,
which comes on about every other week or so. And
(00:44):
I have a jukebox and he's gonna suggest, now, I guess,
just tell me what five albums to put in my jukebox.
So that's all up there. That's all coming up as
always five new music selections. I am most excited about
this week at number five, the champion of the boy
Jake Hoot has released a song. It's a duet with
Kelly Clarkson. It's called I would Have Loved You. Check
(01:05):
it out. What are the rest of now? I gotta
(01:30):
admit I don't watch The Voice, never heard of it.
Actually more of an American IVL guy myself. It got
pretty good. Jake Hoot, I never actually never seen him
on the show, but obviously guy can sing. You just
don't have a lot of people come from that show
that have careers because that show is so based around
the judges more than the contestants. And it's not a
slight toward anything, just as a good talent on both,
(01:50):
but it's just the the TV shows and what they're
made for. The Voice is made for which judge is
going to win. They keep tallies of judges and how
many champ Benship seasons they have, and it's great because
of that American idol is not yet famous judges and
an extremely famous mentor. But it's about, you know, the
careers of the artists. I mean, Gabby Barrett's freaking killing
(02:12):
it and she was on with me three years ago,
you know, and it hasn't taken her very long, you know,
Lacey k Booth is gonna be kind of a force
in Nashville. I feel like Lane Hardy and so they're here.
But good for Jake Hoot pretty cool. At number four,
Eric Church has a new song called Heart on Fire.
Here you go soaking my soul in games. And at
(02:45):
number three Heat Sanders he has a new EP out
I think it's four or five songs called common Ground.
Here is a song called Old School's in Love. Yes,
(03:17):
the guy is really good. I mean his story is
he was working in an oil field in Arkansas. He
had posted a Chris Stapleton cover. I guess I had
some friends on Facebook that had some friends with his
on Facebook and they were like, hey, check this guy out.
And I'm always looking around a little bit and I
was like, holy crap. So I messaged him that he
didn't think it was me. So I had Morgan number
(03:38):
one message him. We're like, hey, you're really He's like,
is this a joke? I thought his friends were messing
with him. And finally he got on a messenger with me,
knew it was me, and I said, hey, drive over
and come singing on the show. And he's like what
I said, Yeah, this is that like nine that night,
So he didn't drive that night, but the next day
he drove all the way over and I had set
(03:58):
up a segment with a few of Frint executives in
music and three different ones too kind of tell him
what they thought of a sound, if he should try
in Nashville, if he should keep playing the bars, and
so he could be played, And all three of them
really liked him, but one of them specifically was like, Hey,
you should just come with me, and so this executive
took him. They left signed a publishing deal like three
(04:21):
months later to write songs and get paid for it,
which turned into a record deal. He then moved from
Arkansas to Nashville, and this is his first first EP
on a real life label. I mean the guys, he's
really good. On my TikTok. You'll see a video of
him playing in studio and you don't hear the guitars
that much because I just wanted you to hear his vocals,
kind of a raw audio. But check out Heath Sanders.
He did. We brought him onto the Raging Idiots show
(04:42):
at the Rhyme and a couple of years ago and
he did faithfully Faithfully, which was really good. Maybe we
played that on Monday's radio show because his records out
and there was also a really good version of people
like that song, so we should do that, all right.
Heat Sanders is at number three. At number two it's
Matt Carney, who I'm such a massive fan of. Obviously
(05:04):
he has a song called Powerless. Here it is, and
at number one it is Our guest will be coming
up in a little bit. Nikita Carmen. She put out
(05:24):
her debut album in the Garden. It's nine songs. I
think you're gonna like it. Here is a new song
from Nikita Carmen called Owned Roses? How call my own Roses?
Wasn't easy? I'm starting we not quite show at homeless?
Can you call it? And always starting needs somebody's laying
(05:46):
our roots me. Then I found out lonely somehow, Louise
I go my own Roses? Oh so check that out.
New releases. As far as albums, and Franco has a
(06:06):
record Revolutionary Love. Chris Bao of Vampire Weekend has Deadhead Control.
But there isn't a lot huh Nope, it's about it.
In the news, Chris Christofferson has quote quietly retired from music.
He's eighty four years old. He actually wrote, performed me
and Bobby McGhee and Janice Choplin made it a huge hit.
(06:27):
And she never got to see that song become a hit.
Did you know that she died? Died? Yeah, but yeah,
he wrote um and performed me and Bobby McGhee help
me make it through the night, Sunday Morning, coming down
for for the good Times. His son John is now
handling the family business. Dan and Shay will be the
headliners of Highway seventies seven Music Festival in September twenty one.
(06:47):
It's the Pro Football Hall of Fame Village it Canton, Ohio.
The bill also includes Kelsey Ballerini, Maddie and Tay, Eric
Passley and Tyler Farr. But we are now seeing announcements
for music, which is a big deal because we've seen
no new announcements of unknown projects, unknown festivals yet, you
(07:08):
know what I mean, only cancelations basically or or or delays.
So pretty cool. Let's let's hope everybody gets a vaccines
and let's rock. I'm still on that wait list, are you? Yeah?
I mean for when we're planning our wedding. I think
we're gonna be okay, and I'm not even sure and
it's after yours, So it's a good sign that promoters
(07:31):
are scheduling shows. Though it doesn't mean that a full
gathering of of thousand people are gonna be safe. But
you know what, it doesn't mean it's not in September.
I feel I feel okay about that. Yeah, the Beast Boys.
Mike d is selling his m t v v M
A moon Man and platinum plaques for charity. You can
view the entire lot of Beast Boys items over at
(07:52):
Southeby's and you can place bids um up until the
end of the day today or like two pm today.
If you're hearing this, you probably used it, but that
would be pretty cool. Beastie Boys mightkey used to give
any awards a group received to his mom saying they
weren't something need to look at. His mom passed away.
So he has stuff and he's auctioning it off now
to benefit good Eats, a program that feeds hungry elementary
(08:13):
school children on the weekends. But those guys just always
get back, huh. Phil Collins X is auctioning off his
gold records not for a good God that the same thing.
You know, that is not a good relationship. It's very messy.
You can now be the owner of Phil Collins Awards
or Gold Records on the cheap. She got the boot
from his mansion and then found a way to make
(08:34):
money auctioning off handbag shoes, even some of Phil's awards
and Gold records. That's that situation is just weird. Read
the TMZ stories about them. Would be kind of cool
to have it, though. I'd feel bad though, if I
own something that was his that he wants but she
got and it's sold. It's like having a stolen stereo
and you're like, I like it. I think it was
(08:55):
stolen from the guy across the tree that sheeron overtakes
John Mayer to cap to the Billboard chart record. His
surprise single after Glow just allowed him to pull past
John Mayer instead a new chart record. After Glow has
become its thirteen top ten Billboard Adult Pop Airplay chart song.
That's the most of any solo mall artists in the
twenty five year history. Elvis Is biopic casts Gary Clark Jr.
(09:17):
And Yola Pretty cool there, Gary Clark j Just to
play my excuse me, Gary Clark Jr. Used to play
my Austin local TV show back in the day and
used to see him out like all time eleven. I
mean he was in town. I'd see him all the time. Uh.
He needs to combine and be like, hey man, I'll
play the TV show all right, come on leting people
watch him a good luck. So that's your news, that's
(09:38):
your new music. Hang around. Got some pretty fun stuff
we're talking about this show. Appreciate you guys, if you
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jew box in my house and when I bought this house,
and I was like walking through looking at it. The
owner had owned the jukebox and had left it there
to stage it to make it look cool, and I
was like, dang, that does look really cool. Like you
got me. I also want the jew box. So when
it was time to buy the house, inside of the negotiation,
I really wanted the jew box. I didn't know if
it even worked. I just knew it looked cool. You've
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seen it. It's really cool. So being that we're in
Nashville and there's so much music here, there are a
few different people that specialized in juke boxes still today.
So it took me a bit because the pandemic to
get somebody to come to the house. And they did
and they were like, okay, we're looking through it. They
were like, dang, this has never been you And I
was like, is it records? I don't even get inside
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of it. I don't gonna break it there, Like, no,
it's c D S. But it's never been used, Like
you probably sell this thing for like And I was like,
what now was it rigged to not take money or
do you still have to pay to play it? And
I think you can do either. One you start charging
for First of all, I was shocked that it was
that expensive. Now I'm like, I don't even want to
use it. It's that expensive. Um, but you just type
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in a number and it flips and grabs the CD.
It was but empty, right, And so I don't own
any CDs anymore, And I thought, Okay has a hundred slots.
I'm gonna fill this with the one hundred CDs that
are like the best to me. And so I started,
and I've put three in so far. And the reason
that Eddie here, I'm gonna let him actually put five
CDs in this thing amazing. But the three that I have.
The first one I put in was John Merrick Continuum,
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which is probably my favorite album of all time period.
So what song do we have here, Mike? Stop this train?
My favorite song not only from this album but in
all of life. Do you remember track numbers? Yeah? Yeah,
this is probably seven seven seven to me? When we
had seven seven to me was always the strong track.
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I remember knowing. I remember going to the songs that
I like and being like, wow, that's seven to interesting.
Do you look up the number number seven? Nice? I
saw him, Mike, I was like, am ether very wrong
or I'm very right. I got it. But you know,
like track one on that record is waiting on the
World to Change. I believe you can in fact check
me correct. Come on, you know it? And that was
the big single, yeah, you know, and it did fairly well.
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But it was such a radio song, like if your
favorite artists song. If you if your favorite song from
your favorite artists a radio song. I don't really your
favorite artist. Oh that's not true. I don't agree with
that because better Man is my favorite. Pearl James what
a poser. I know every other song, but better Man
is my favorite. Um So, but I yeah, I really
hate the song and it starts off with this one,
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like the two that I don't like all John Mayer.
I mean, I guess I still like, but I'm like, no,
thank you are your Bodies and wonder like such a
jam and waiting on the World to change. Yeah, So
I did put Continuum in, and then I put in
the Dixie Chicks their first record, the first, their first
big record, Wide Open Spaces. I'm trying that up a
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little bit. And then I put in Casey Musgrave's Golden Hour.
It's a good one, that's your I think I would
get all the Casey stuff in eventually. I don't want
to commit to all three records right now, but Casey's
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basically my favorite contemporary country artist. But those are three
I have put in. I have a have a stack
at the house, and there are hundred slots. Hundred slots, okay,
so the first three were those three, So ve for me.
I'm giving you five and who does that may make
this a bit and I just don'tant to let Mike
de pick one. He's gonna pick like Little Maria, some
punk or something. You want any of my music in there?
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But I mean, but you want your jukebox bones to
be pretty eclect But no buddy would play Lamuria some
punk ban unless it's Mike. I got one that maybe
you would like. What Green Day Dukeye that needs to
go in. That's a good one. Damn you have that
time that was instrumental in my lifetime. To of course
it was Oh man, I think I'm gonna let you
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have that one. My yeah, I can't not do Green
Day Dukie. Do you have the time to listen to
me wine long views in that one? Yeah? Even myself?
Do you I'm going to play that one? I go
to your house. Okay, Eddie, have five CDs you get
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to put in. This was probably the funniest thing I've
ever done for your for your podcast. Okay, I'm so excited.
I'll start with the least favorite that I think you're
gonna be like, no, dude, come on, but you need
this in your jukebox. And it's Bob Dylan Blonde on Blonde,
and I'll tell you why. This is just like a
woman and this is pivotal in Bob Dylan's career. Here
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it's a huge album because they started recording this album
in New York City when he was still a folk singer.
But he was like, I'm just not liking it. The
producer was like, I'm just not liking this folk thing anymore.
Let's go to Nashville and finish this record. And they
got the best musician, best session musicians in Nashville to
work on this record. I've read so much, so much
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on this bones. It was recorded like two blocks from here.
This is this is the time when Bob started his
electric sound and very like this. We always sounded like no, no,
you you're you're gonna hear this album and then you're
gonna say dang, you know what, this is pretty cool. Okay,
turn this up a little bit. It was just like
a woman, baby kid to be blessed until she fun lissase.
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I mean, I don't mind some Bob Dylan, but you know,
I'm not a huge You're gonna love You're gonna love
this one. And I've read again, I've read so much
on this that the sessions, this is how they would be.
He would he would tell all the musicians to show
up at a certain time and they would show up,
I think they were going to record, and he would
just go in the control room and write and they
would just wait. Uh that did like, and they would
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wait till two in the morning sometimes and then Bob
will be like, I got it, let's go and let's
play this. And they recorded everything live. So what you
hear is how their session went. And that's what it was.
I love it, Okay, Bob Dylan Blonde on Blind there's
one slot. No, you're gonna a count up. Yeah, it's
gonna get better, Okay, go ahead. And then my first
CD ever, it has to go in there. It's George straight,
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pure country more than like the hits or anything. It
was tough and there aren't. There aren't. There's only one
greatest hits out of this. I felt like it would
be unfair just to do the greatest hits. If you
want to do that with your ninety five, go ahead,
but I felt like you need solid albums. Pure country
is so good. It's got across my heart heartland, even
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with his son Bubba singing when he was a little
boy where the Sidewalk ends. This was my first CD,
and I got conned by my brother. Uh. He was like,
hey man, you you want to go half of me
on the CD, and then he kept it. I never
saw it, but it was my first CD ever to buy.
So that goes in your jukebox. All right, So far
Bob Dylan, George straight, pure and pure country specifically, Yes,
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that's the soundtrack track movie right. Next up, I had
to go Beatles Bones. I wasn't. I don't know that
I'm putting any Beatles in there until now, and so
I had to go Beatles, and I'm thinking, oh my gosh,
idow all the great Beatles albums, do we want to
go greatest hits? You could? But Bones, even the greatest hits,
they're all mixed in that they're all separated in their
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different little subgenres of the Beatles. You want soup beetles,
that's one greatest hits. You want Psychedelic Drugs Beetles, that's
another one, you know like. So there's hard to find
one that's got all of them together. But I'm gonna
go Strawberry Um Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts, Hearts Club Band.
This has Strawberry Fields, Lucy and the Sky with Diamonds,
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A Day in the Life, a little help with my friends.
You need this one on there A right down, got
it thanks to good At. Yeah, that's good. You like
this one, don't you? Okay? So I can't have you
have a jukebox without Pearl Jam in it. And again,
this is hard because there are so many albums, and
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I couldn't do Vitology one time because you've got a
lot of throwaway tracks. I feel like Vitology was the
album that Pearl Jam said, you know what beep you like,
I'm just gonna give you trash. I'm gonna throw in
three or four good songs in here, and the rest
is gonna be garbage that only the fans are gonna
like and everyone else can go like suck on it,
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like I feel like that's what they did with Vitology.
I love that album, So I'm gonna go with Ten,
the first album that the world heard and was introduced to.
UH introduced Pearl Jam to UH. It's got even Flow
Alive Jeremy Black. The cool thing about this album bones
And I remember this because of the jukebox in my college.
I would go play pool at the rec center and
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they had Ten in the jukebox. If you play the
last track release, it's thirty minutes because there's a hidden
track that goes on and on. It's just instrumental. So
I would do that to piss the entire wreck off.
It was so good. Hey, you played the last single
song for a quarter or whatever, and then it would
take forty minutes to go to the next what is this?
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And the jukebox had to play because that was a
hidden track. That's dirty. There were some good hidden tracks
so back in the day, because now you can't do
that really because you can see the time on a
digital track, you see the track. But the County Crows,
you know, whenever they paid Paradise to put it, when
they did that, Johnny Mitchell song that was a hidden
track at first really is a hidden track, and then
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they ended up putting it on a later version of
it with Vanessa Carlton. The first one wasn't even with them.
Um the County Crows record with the fish ball in
the front. Yes, a Desert Life. Yeah, that one had
a hidden track and one small step for man to
three four. No, but then it goes into a different
little part. Yes, but there is The hidden tracks are
awesome back in the day. So this one has a
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hidden track, okay. So we have Pearl, we have bobbed Ellen,
George Straight, the Beatles, Pearl, jam Tin okay. And lastly, dude,
this is the best CD I ever owned. Garth Brooks
the Hits. This is the one with his American flag face.
Is this one disk? This one disc bones and it
has everything I mean, friends and low places, the dance,
the River of Tomorrow never comes. I mean, this is
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the one that I feel like I still have it
and I would like to gift it to you, but
I don't think it's playable. I played it so much
that it's all scratched up. Now I'll have to go
back and check. But this, to me, hands down, when
I was twelve eleven. My favorite thing in the whole
wide world. I can see the cover. Yeah, you know
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what I'm talking about. His face is the American flag. Yeah.
I have a bunch of Garth Brooks records. Not the
hits though, how any how many albums are you gonna
go with greatest hits? Well, the next time I'm putting
in our Kenny Rogers Greatest Hits, so that one's cued
up to go in. Um. The next time, I loaded
up and then Hood the Blowfish, but not a good
hits the Cracter review. Yeah, so I basically idea, I
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do have some greatest hits, but I'm not being a
snob about it, because I thought about George Straight greatest Hits. Yes,
that'd be a good one. The Eagles greatest hits like nineteen, Yes,
that's a big one, you know, the kind of count
of Crow's greatest hits, but not really across the live Wire.
That's amazing, you know, Live in New York. The double album, yes,
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one Acoustic elect Acoustic Reds the electric. Oh dude, so good.
I figured you were going to do that in your
own side and put that in mine. So I have
six records dad. Now at nine is Mikey put in
Green Day Doogie? Yeah? There is? This is basketcase? What
else was on this record? When when when I come around,
when I go, yeah, it's the jam long View obviously.
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Uh yeah, I was all alone. I was up with myself.
Was that a hidden tram? I thinking of you? Maybe, Mike?
Was that a hidden track? I think it was. I
was thinking of We played that at that school talent
show once we did, and everyone's like, okay, we did
it at and we did. I got a girl, she
looks real good. I gotta go, she admits, you know,
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because I know I need you that song. Did you
know what you were doing when you would do that? Okay?
See I didn't either. And we would go to family
events like I'm I'm talking to my whole family, and
I would sing Crash Dave Matthews Band, and I was like,
hock up your skirt a little more and showed the
world to me and my dad and all my uncles
will be like, what's wrong with you? Are you singing
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right now? We didn't know though, I had no clue.
Oh this was a jam tripping daisy turn it up.
I got a girl. She loves her, I got a
girl up. It was easy to play. There only three
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of us today, and so the Dramma can do is
a little part Tanner. Our guitars play it up and
I can kind of sing this because it's like a
good good and then it kicks in right here, turn
it out here? I know, did I need not get higher?
And you guys do not even know? You have maybe
too young for this, your kids out there when crappy
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music was awesome, this is there's a lot of it.
It's in the system though. Yeah, we have an alternative
station here in the building apparently, or we may have
we know nothing. Okay, that's what's up, Eddie, Thank you
for your time. Check out the Store Losers podcast, which
Eddie is on. What's going on over there? What are
you guys talking about now? Mostly mostly? I mean the
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super Bowl was a big, big, big topic. Now will
be yeah, and now after this we'll probably go into
little college basketball. But we're trying to get more guests in.
We had Ryan heard recently. Um so do we just
realize there's a lot of country artists that we have
access to, obviously, but they're all a lot of sports
fans and the next time, Wenna try to get the
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low Cash guys on here to talk sports and they
and they're both Tampa. That one of them lives in
Tampa now, so like, yeah, we'll talk to him soon.
Check out the Sore Losers podcast was Eddie Ray and
Lunchbox and that's what's up. Thank you all right. Nikita
Karmen is here. Nikita Karmen's new album, The Garden is
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out today. It's nine songs. How pumped are you that
you finally have a big collection of music that's out
for people to have. I am so excited. I mean
I pretty much just listened to myself anyway on my phone,
and I'm like, people get to listen to me too.
Now let me play some of Pirates tonight. This is
track one on Nikita's album The Garden. Interested So you
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wrote this with Walker Hayes and Josh Jenkins. How long
ago did you write this one? I actually write this
one in Quarantine, So we wrote this over zoom. Was
that weird for you to write stuff on computer? Yes?
I know some people really like Walker really likes it.
I hate it still because why um, it's just like
everyone kind of stands it awkwardly and you kind of
don't want to talk over people, but it's like you
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can't really read the room. But um, but I've written
a couple of songs I really like over it, so
I can't complain. Nikias from Australia, And I know you
went back home during some of the pandemic, but what
was crazy was watching your Instagram. You fly over, which
is fine, but then you actually can't get in the
country unless you stay in a hotel for two weeks
with no contact at all. Right, Yeah, it was so
(25:28):
strange to like land and like there's like army people
in the army scrubs just like lead you out to
a on a bus and you don't even know where
you're going until you get on the bus. So let
me get this straight. You get off the airplane, people
in like army gear as you would say, army scrubs,
they say, okay, come with us and get on this
this big bus with these other people, and you don't
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know where you're going. No, you don't know the hotel
you're staying in. And then when you're on the way
there they be like, hey, you're staying at the Marrier
in the Darling Harbor, which is that's where I was staying,
which is a five star hotel, but you don't really
get five Start dreaming. So did you have to pay
to stay there for fourteen days? Like the hotel rate?
Not the hotel rate, it's just like a fixed rate
of three thousand dollars. I'm still trying to get out
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of it. So the New South Wales government is going
to chase me down. So you you stayed there, didn't
pay in the flew back to America and basically I
will't pay for it eventually. I'm just I'm just waiting
waiting for this album to blow up. Yeah? Yeah, then
is that money growing out of your ears? So what
do you do for fourteen days? And do you have Netflix?
You have room service? Yeah, I mean they supply all
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the meals, but it's kind of like airplane food but
probably worse. Could you order food if you wanted it?
You could order food, which I started doing because like,
the first meal I got was a bagel and cream cheese,
which doesn't sound horrible better it was like frozen still,
So I called up the desk and I was like,
do you guys have like a toaster or something I
can put this in and the person was like, we
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assure you everything is completely safe to eat. That was it,
and she goes, it might not be how you lie. Kids, Like,
did you do you feel like they treated you like
a lower class because you didn't check into the hotel
because you want to stay at the hotel, but because
you were kind of forced into there? Yeah? Probably, yeah,
you kind of it feels so weird, Like even getting
off the bus, it felt like kind of like getting
off the bus in prison. But I imagine what I
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would imagine that would be like, because people were walking
past the bus and they quickly put like walked away
from us and put a mask on, like don't go
near them, they're probably infected. Were you working the whole
time that you were in your hotel room writing or
did you just kind of get so bored that you
didn't know what to do? Yeah? I kind of started.
I tried to start writing stuff, but the walls were
kind of thin, and I felt like the people next
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to me, We're going to like hate me if I
kept seeing the same thing over and over again. So
I ended up just studying Gray's Anatomy again from season
one and then just playing my Nintendo Switch. Really were
you so bored? Surprisingly? Like the days went pretty fast
because I would sleep into like mid day, so then
by the time I had gotten up, I was like,
well half the day is always but then you would
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be able to go to sleep at night. Here was
a track too from Nikita Carmen. This is some of
her song better hap Thin sious, No no no No.
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When I'm back home, your mom and dad were musical
there there there band was called Hotel Berland. Maybe is
that what it was? I met? I met Nikita's parents.
I wandered to Australia and met them. Did they want
you to do music? Um? They never really pushed it.
Actually because both of my sisters also sing and kind
of growing up, Mike, I was talking to my parents
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about this when I went back home. Um, how I
was like, I remember used to tell me I was
the worst singer out of a lot, and my Mom's like,
you were? Are you the best now or they just
both still that good? No, they're both good. I feel
weird saying I'm the best out, but I'm like, I
guess like my older sister did it professionally as well.
But in Australia, what was she doing professionally. She was
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just she's playing in the cover band. And I was
always like the writer though you were playing at a pub.
Whenever I met you, you were doing two things. You
were playing at a pub like on the weekends and evenings,
but you were doing photo editing all day long. Yeah,
and and the first time we had talked to you
were actually working in the in the photo shop. But
when you would play a pub in Australia, like, what
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does that look like? Are people eating? Is it a bar? Like?
What is that? Um? Yeah, it kind of depends when
when you would play, Like I would play on Thursday
night and that would get pretty rowdy. I would have like,
I have a funny story. I've had people throw coins
at me to shut up or to play something. Well,
I think they were tipping the Australians do it. And
then I've had people like goggling just milk in front
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of me and people just told me to be quiet
so they could hear the football behind me on the screens,
but they would play football. Is that soccer to you? Well,
it's rugby okay, wow, and football is three different thing. Okay,
So rugby over the top of you while you're playing. Yeah,
that's a bad situation for you to be in. Well,
it looks like people are looking at me at least. Yeah,
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so you're playing music while they have rugby over you
at times. Is that one of those jobs though, where
you have to learn basically every cover song just so
you can continue playing. Yeah, I mean it was a
three our gig and I would play some of my
own originals, but you know, you have to play stuff
to get people actually listening to you. So you know,
there's just like all the pub classics that really go
off in Australia, like Torn by Natalie Ambrolio, like stuff
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like that that can't really fail. What are the pub classics?
Give me the top five pub classics? Natalie and burle
a torn If you had to go to and you're like,
I know this is going to get them back, what
do you play? Wonder Wall by Oasis always, it doesn't
matter what age, everybody loves wonder Wall. That's too um
What else would I do? I would do we got
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it all day and hang up day. I'm curious to
know if you're like, all right, I know this one
really well, let me let me get back into this one.
Save tonight, I do that one eagle like Cherry Solid.
I'm gonna need two more from you though. See Better
Together by Jack Johnson always goes quite well, Jolane, Okay,
there you go, Joe did it, which the Jolyns story
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is pretty pretty funny as far as us together. Before
I tell that one, I'm gonna play track three called
eight Houses from Nikia Carmen crying out that room, saying
that he don't deserve you back when everything was really big,
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like it's sad too, Karen U Candy Haaschool, back when
everything was first off, it's something I dig in. We
gonna forget. The only thing on this right now means
we only have to walk, says Joe. Lene is funny
(32:02):
to me because and we'll get into how we met
in a second. But you were on stage. It was
your first time with the Raging Idiots. You were just
singing back up because you just come to America. And
I was like, all right, let's see what she does. Right.
It wasn't Joeling the song, Yes, that's what the first
one you played. Well, I played Somewhere with You by
Kenny Chesney, and then I said, hey, I may call
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you up to the front and you got your guitar
and you played somewhere with you La la la, la,
la la blah. And then I told Eddie, don't walk
out there because our show, and still a bit at
the time, was so much improvisation that I was gonna see,
let's see if she can handle herself. Let's not the
song is over, ever tell you the story. She just
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moved to America, she's with us. She walks out and
played her song, and I told the whole band, don't
go out there, Let's see how she does when her
songs over. Just stay out here. And so the song
is in the crowd class and then she's looking over
and we're not doing anything. We're just letting her see
what she does. She takes her guitar and goes and
starts going and Joline, it plays in the crowd, and
I was like, oh, yeah, she's good, she's good to go,
she's fine to be with us. Do you remember that
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you know where we were? I have no idea where
we were, like Richmond, Virginia, or do you remember the
night we were all in the back when we were
doing and no I would walk five and we all
blew out our voices and it was the same night
of the para shooting as well. Yes, I remember that
where they went into the theater and shot people kill people.
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That was my first trip when I came to play
with you guys, and I was like, this is America. Yeah, crazy, huh.
I wonder if that was the first night. Is that
the first night of the second night? I think that
was the second night we um Nikita and I met
because Eddie and I were doing raging idiot stuff and
I was like, man, I'd like to have a really
strong female. That's it's a little bit different. And so
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we had talked to like thirty females to be in
the group, and none of them were like to us
something that was, you know, a little quirky, a little different,
but still really good. And then finally someone was like, hey,
we have this girl in Australia, but she can't come.
She got to talk to you one um and like
spacetime or maybe Skype, and so they're like when they
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put her up on the screen and she's like, Hey,
I'm in the hallway at my wedding photo editing place.
And then she had her guitar and she replayed the
hallway right, and we were like dang. And I got
a credit Gordon at Black River because I was like, hey,
I would like to have her over here, and he
was like, okay, well fly it flew over and she
stayed you have it. You've lived here since? Yes. That
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was Yeah, that was insane. And I remember telling my mom.
I was like, so I'm going to go to America
to go and meet a guy on mom Internet. But
it turned out to be quite advantageous actually, and I'm
pretty good guy. It's true. We wikipedia you and Mom's like,
I think he's famous. So that situation happened. She comes
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here then she we weren't doing the big shows, but
she was. You were opening and just killing and merch
and selling CdSe. People were just blown away by her.
Um and I remember we had a talk and I said, hey,
I think you should start to do stuff without me,
like start to do your own thing. So I'm gonna
give you the option. You can come and open for
me for this tour or you can go and do
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other things that you can pick either way. And you
picked not to open for me, and then like two
months later, you're like, she was like, oh crap, I
should open for you? Not wrong? Here is came close
from Nikita Krmen again. Your parents in that eighties band
(36:02):
Hotel Berlin. What success did they have? Um? Not very much? Um.
I mean they had like fun, they weren't really like professional.
They had some pretty amusing music video clips they shot
in the backyard of our house. Are they still for
fun playing any music at all? None? No? I mean
my mom just sings all the time anyway. Still she good? Yeah?
(36:27):
Do you remember the first song you learn my guitar? Um? Yes?
It was Sooner or Later by Michael Toulture and then
closely followed by Hands by Jewel. Do you still know them?
I don't think I would know Sooner or Later. I
don't even know what this song is the Australia We'll
be Looking bad everything. You always know every song? Yeah?
(36:47):
That's that must be a crappy one. It must only
know only the ones that aren't. Mike. Do you know
that song? No? I can't even find it. You have
an identical twin sister, How's desire doing? She's good? She
actually co wrote one of the songs on the album me.
Did you guys do that over over like Sky or Zoom?
Or did you do it at home. She just kind
of like wrote like the start of it, and then
(37:07):
she sent it to me and I was like, look,
the start of the chorus is pretty good art and
I can work with that. And then I ended up
just changing a few things around, and then I didn't
tell her it was going to be on the album
until me and Walker cut it and I was like,
here you go. So she'll make like eight dollars that's cool. Yeah, yeah,
us so would be pretty good in Australia. Is the
money if you have ten dollars here, what do you
(37:29):
think it is in Australia? Is it more than ten
dollars there? Yeah? Are you a makeup artist? Well, I
am trained as a makeup artist back in Australia. What
it's it's just something that I learned for fun. But
are you a certified makeup You got you got a certificate?
I don't know if it's like a I don't know
(37:49):
how like you check if they're like legit or not.
But I did a class. Could you do my makeup?
And it'd be fine? Oh my god, I loved you.
I'll be watching so much RuPaul's drag Race. I don't
want to makeup, makeup on a man you know who. No,
I don't want to make up you know who's been doing.
So on my nat Geo show, we went out and
we have a really small crew because of COVID. So
(38:13):
we have our you know, nine or ten guys that
are on the crew crew, but you can't bring anyone
on unless they have a specific job, which I guess
in the old Wild West two years ago, everybody could
come on party have a good time, but they were like, hey,
nobody can come on because of COVID. And so this
show doesn't require a lot of hair and makeup. Some
but sometimes we don't get dunked in the water or
(38:34):
I'm hanging out over the Grand Canyon. It's not like
they're paying attention your makeup. But so I told Caitlin,
I said, hey, why don't you come on as my
hair and makeup artist. She's like, I don't know what
I'm doing, Helly, who cares? And so I was like,
just just put some bas stuff on me, made me
look good, and so for like the last three months
she actually getting pretty good at it now. But she
has been my hair and makeup artist and now she
(38:56):
does it for the opery as well, and now she's
like ordering stuff, you're watching YouTube stuff and so now
she's she's doing that. But if she ever goes down,
I'm gonna call you. But no, eyeshadow, that's the only rule.
It's gonna be really hard for me to like not
go all out. This is not Ruth Paul's drag race.
This record you did? You wrotever song? Yes? Was that
important to you? Yes? I don't really have any like
(39:19):
interest in singing something I didn't ride, mainly because the
writing is my favorite pot of the whole thing. So
that was kind of super important. Here is a great
goose before I play that? What's what's is great goose?
About the alcohol? Um, it's actually about my boyfriend, the
one you have now, Yes, okay, go ahead. So it's
just about meeting him in a bar. And I kind
of just wanted like a fun, like bad, cheesy pick
(39:41):
up line love song. Okay, let me hear this. Sys
Wy died walk ahead to produced the record the whole thing.
(40:07):
How was that? It was so much fun? I was like,
I mean, when I've recorded in the past, it's been
in big, fancy studios, and we ended up recording all
of this in his house, which was funny. He would
just he would stop me singing and be like sorry,
I have to tell the kids to shut up, and
be like, please keep it down. He's got a lot
of kids. Yeah, six right, yeah, six kids. Yeah, And
(40:28):
you know, I did a couple of songs with Walker
back in the day. Did Ima stay with Walker? He's
so encouraging. He's like, yeah, that's it and really it
wasn't it, but he but he was so encouraging that
it made me want to do better. Did you find
he was that way with you? Yeah, That's what made
it such a like easy and fun process because it
wasn't like everything was like has to be perfect. It
was kind of just like just just fill it out
(40:50):
and see what sounds good and yeah and then he um.
He told me that he doesn't know how to do
any pitch corrections, so that kind of was a bit
of an ego boost. So you had to sing it
right on. Yeah. I did an episode recently on this
podcast about artists who don't like performing their biggest hits.
Is it true you don't like performing out of the park?
Absolutely true. That's that's our biggest streaming song, right, I know,
(41:15):
I know, and I should. I should love to play it.
But how many streams out of the park when you
look on our page? Well, I'm on a different thing. Okay,
this song was bout like this one? Still you do? Yeah?
Interesting to s use bad one? Lan is waist fatting
at Jim. Why don't you like playing it? I don't know.
(41:37):
I feel like I sound so like different. I don't know.
When you hear you sing, there's no accent. Yeah, sometimes
I put my accent in if I want something to rhyme.
Oh that's an interesting technique. Maybe I should just be
like a British accent. I don't want rhymes happening crazy
(42:00):
to sin That was love over Days, Get it out.
That's a good song, alright, mine, I like it. Yeah,
don't be a hater towards your old music. Alright, you're
basically radiohead right now. I'm coming back around to it.
(42:21):
You're right. Your next single is own Roses. Yes, yeah,
let me hear some of this. How go my own room?
It wasn't easy. I'm sorry. Not show it home and
you grow it in always thought and lead somebody to
lame my roots me, but then found lonely somehow in
(42:47):
Louise my own Roses. Why did you pick that one
a single? Well, the title of the whole project is
called the Garden, so and that's from a that um
is from the own Roses. That's pretty much like I
got the garden I deserved, And it's just kind of
about my whole journey, like moving to Nashville and kind
(43:10):
of starting from scratch again. So I just feel like
that was the best choice. And it made me cry
when I wrote it, so I thought that maybe people
would also cry. You made yourself cry. I don't think
I've ever created anything that made me cry. It's so
beautiful what I just did. Even when I wrote, like
(43:36):
my first book, there was really sad stuff in there,
and maybe I would get emotional remembering the sad stuff.
But I've never created anything that evoked. And I've heard things,
have seen things, but I've never created something that went
like that thing I just created touched me so much.
I mean I cry really easily anyway, So it's not
really like me clapping myself, to be honest. Let me
(43:58):
play the Sister that you and the song You and
your sister co wrote. This is Surprised from Nikita Carmen
and desiree King Jack. I saw that some of the
big streaming service would give you some awesome spots. That's
(44:21):
gonna be exciting. Yes, Like I saw a big Spotify
thing for you. That's that's super cool. Yeah, I know.
It's like it makes such a difference when you release
something and you like wake up in the morning and
you're like, this is um like put on playlist that
maybe more people will actually listen to it. Yeah, maybe
somebody here and they goes, hey, what is that? Oh
cool and put a heart on it and save it
and then play it more and then maybe they're a
fan of your music, and that's pretty cool. Yeah. Then
(44:41):
you know, I'm always putting you on the national I
Heart Women Country show. I get so excited. Yeah, have
you ever heard it on the radio? No, you're probably
not the country for a lot of that this weekend.
It's on this weekend. Well, let me just sit in
the car and just listen to that. So you go
and then record a video and be like I'm on
the radio. Yes, I have a good car now that
has like a a radio that what I saw a
jet drive in here. He just kind of sat there
(45:04):
for a minute. You're out a weird spot in the yard,
and I was like, is she gonna drive over here?
I was thinking about it. I guess I haven't seen
you since I moved, and so you drove here and
you're like, what is what's happening? Yes? Pretty much? Uh
you fun fact Nikita was the first ever episode of
the Bobby Cast, except that was an unreleased episode where
(45:25):
we just tested the equipment. Oh my god, I was
going to say that when I came in and I
was like, I've actually I remember me and a mad
but your first guests and I did it together. Well
he did one as well. I think that's true. I
think so well. I mean it went to trash it.
We were just we're just seeing if the microphones worked.
And so now here you go. You put out a
whole record and now you're on for real. You didn't
want to go on the first time anyway, that that
(45:45):
that didn't count. This is the real one. All right?
Let me have one more song here? Why don't we
play picture Me? You wrote this one by yourself. Yeah,
what's this about? It's about my ex boyfriend? Just what
is your current boyfriend thinking abou your ex boyfriend? In
the song? Um, oh, my boyfriend never pays attention to
the lyrics and anything I write. I will send him
(46:06):
like the most beautiful love song. And then I was
like did you like it? And he's like, oh, I
wasn't really listening. Okay, here you go. We don't have
to talk. We talk, just ship al see see all
actually seeing him fall and actually not seeing him call
(46:28):
and actually, do you send this to your ex boyfriend
to go? He wrote the song about your heads up?
Absolutely not no, no, he would not want to hear this.
Do you keep up with them? Do you know what
he's doing? Um? Not really? I mean I saw him
at a wedding when I went back to Australia. Actually,
this is when I went back with my current boyfriend,
(46:49):
so and his mom was there too, so that was fun.
It was weird. Yeah is your current boyfriend bigger than
he is? Yeah? Yeah? Nice? One final song this is
then some It's Nikita with Walker Hayes. I'll get all
you and me get back, I'll get you and then
(47:18):
getting st close just me. I just don't get all
I'll get really feel smiling on your faceless a little too.
I could call it when, but I'm Nasha if you say,
can go right. You have a greyhound too now and
(47:41):
fostering one. I saw that on your Instagram. He is
an absolute nightmare. Oh we have a new dog. She's
a nightmare too right now. I don't know, like I'm
not used to it either, because I mean, Pim's my
other greyhound. She was a nightmare, but she was really
like scared and shy. Whereas this dog, I'm like, I
swear this isn't a grayhound is like a great Dane
and he just steals everything. Well, congratulations, you got a
(48:07):
whole record out called the Garden is out today. I
hope you guys that are listening check it out at
Nikita Carmen on Instagram and I K I T A
K A R M E N. Nikita Carmen. I'm proud
of you. Thank you. You glad to move to Nashville.
I'm glad I missed. Yeah, I'm glad I did that
little edition. I have a scrap. Okay, there she is, Mike,
(48:28):
anything you want to say, just play out of the
park next time. Yeah, so I'll be in such a
snob all right, I'll play it. Thanks for having me,
Thank you? All right there she everybody check out the garden.
There she is, Nikita, Carmen, Mattie. How are you it is?
It's great to talk to you, man. I know, I
haven't seen you since I was up in your building
and just trying to get a luxie in your studio
(48:51):
to see the legend. I remember peeking in there and
I was like, I don't want to bother him, and
there he was with all my eyes. Yeah, yeah, come on, man,
well you're you're the kid. That's not true. If you
have to ask, what's that show? You know? I ain't
the king? Yeah I heard, I heard about it. I'm
(49:12):
more like you got you ever to play Bryce records
on your show? I have before? Yes, I'm that's okay.
Well let's celebrate you. I don't. I'm not here to
talk about me. Listen, I'm so over me. I talked
about me all the time. But you know, when I
was reading about how you had spit just celebrate your
forty year anniversary doing mornings they're working in radio, I
(49:33):
was like, holy crap, Like I can only dream of
having a career that's two thirds of that, honestly, Like
you've just been at such a high level for so long.
And I hit up Mike, and I said, hey, see
if Maddy, because I don't want to reach out because
if you say no to me, my feeling is gonna
be hurt. But if you say no to Mike, I'm like,
he just didn't want to do it. So I said,
reach out to Maddie and see if he wants to talk,
(49:54):
because I have a bunch of questions about his radio career.
So I appreciate you humoring me here. Oh boy, are
you kidding me? You really want to put me on
your radio show all over the country. Of course you're
the man. What do you want to know? Well, let
me start with because you you know, you started in
as far as Kiss one Await where you still are,
and so I'm just curious about the eighties in general
(50:17):
and how in radio, like I assume there are a
lot of big stars that would come through and pop
it on your show in the eighties. When you think
about that and people you actually met in the eighties,
who was it that you still look back and go, Man,
that was really freaking cool that I met them? Oh well,
was cool? Oprah? Back then? Yeah, back then, the early
early days, not even the biggest of your life, but
(50:39):
in the because for me in the eighties, it was
like one years old. So like I looked, I look back,
and I'm like, man, what was it like? Have someone
come in the radio station in the eighties and you're
on in Boston, You're rocking the whole place, like who
comes but as Madonna come by? In the eighties. Did
you ever meet the Beastie Boys? Yeah? Yeah, oh those people,
(51:01):
you know, all the Toms, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, uh,
Arnold Schwarzenegger, who else came by? I mean everybody. Yeah,
back in those days, um, before the internet and everything. Uh,
celebrities went to radio stations. You don't really see that anymore.
They come to see you because you've got a national show.
But you know, for just one market guy like me. Nowadays,
(51:24):
you know, they don't travel like they used to. But
back then, anybody on a movie or anything toward the country,
So yeah, we had everybody. So did you ever see
someone back in like the eighties late eighties and then
you ran into them like twenty years later and they
just kind of they weren't what they used to be,
and maybe back then they were kind of a jerk
(51:44):
to you, and you're like, uh huh, see what happens?
You want to ask me a people I know know
that crest and burned. I was asking. I was asking
that a nicer way. I was trying to go around, then,
a nicer way. You are people that I met that
now are nobody. Again, I'm not saying nobody. From my experience,
there have been people that have come in my studio
(52:05):
and really treating me like crap at one point, and
then all of a sudden they hit a down spur,
and now all of a sudden they're trying to be
your best friend again. And I'm like, were you treating
me like crap? The last time I saw you? Were
dark boy? You had all my whole life people and
Larry King just died. I've met him, you know. But no,
(52:26):
I don't have a list of people who well come
of them. I mean I had, oh, what was his um,
Michael Douglas's brother. You know, he came in and he
was doing uh uh cocaine on the show. And then
indeed a little while later, does that count. Yeah, that's
a great story. He was doing coke. Oh god, he
(52:46):
was so mad at me. Oh my god. He literally
he was sniffling, and I said, you know, could I
give you a tissue which is like a tissue and
he got all mad because he equated that with the
fact that he was doing blow right there in this studio.
I didn't mean anything by it, you know, do you
do you remember back your very first break doing the mornings,
(53:06):
and you know when when the show launched, and any one, well, uh,
I was I was a rocker, you know, and I
got this job at Kiss and back then, uh, they
were changing from disco, but they were still kind of
a disco station really when I started, and I was
a rocker, so it was humiliating to all my friends.
(53:27):
And I worked at kids, you know, disco songs and
all that. Yeah, I really wasn't I couldn't really tell
anybody that I went to Kiss there, I honest to God,
ask to God. I had a girlfriend at the time.
I wonder whatever happened, But I said, look, I had
(53:48):
a TV show, late night TV talk show, and they
hired me a Kiss and I said, you know, I'm
a I'll see so you know, I went to the
boss of the TV station and I said, you know,
I got this offer for you know, a radio thing.
But I don't know if I mean I'd rather stay
on TV, and the guy looked at me and smiled
(54:08):
and said, take the radio gigs. So you know, I
appreciate his honestly. That my TV career was coming to
an end, you know, And I went to Kiss and
I told my girlfriend at the time, I said, I'll
do it for a couple of months and then I'll
go back on TREV. So that was literally almost to
the day, forty years ago. I was here. I am
(54:30):
still here, Yeah, still here. I was watching the BGS
documentary on HBO Max where they talk about you know,
they had many sounds, but their biggest was Saturday at
Fever the soundtrack, and then once Disco died, they went
from being cool to being basically, you know, a fry
where nobody wanted to deal with them at all because
everybody was embarrassed by Disco. Do you remember that at all? Sure?
(54:52):
What else? What I was saying, I mean, like, how
could you like my friends, you know, my stoner rocker friends.
You're going to work for Kiss? Went await that disco station?
I said, Well, I lost my TV gig and they're
the only ones that called me, you know. So yeah,
but again, I was only going to do it for
a couple of months, and I don't know if something
happened and I'm still here. Do you ever have celebrities
(55:15):
over to your house. I had a studio in my
house at one point and I was talking to Al
Gore and he was running for president. He was at
the time the vice president of the United States. And
my twin girls, who were like, I don't know, five
years old at the time or something, came blasting into
the studio, killing each other, you know, pulling air and
(55:37):
yelling and screaming, and I to deal him on the
air right now, girls with the vice president of the
United States that they didn't seem to care at all.
They didn't care at all. Yeah. Do you know if
Tom Brady listened to your show? I hope he didn't
listen to the show this year down on well, he
(55:57):
left us. You know, Bob, you can't do that. You know,
we're all rooting for him now going to the super Bowl,
But God, earlier this year the way he left and
you know, most commercials, I'm not going into where I'm
still here. He was lying. You took that pretty hard, huh. Yeah.
I interviewed Tom one time and he was at a studio,
(56:22):
went Tom ready, kind of you go to him, you know,
he didn't come to us. And uh, he was getting
blonde tips of his hair. It's kind of, you know,
for a regular old rocker guy. I was sort of embarrassing.
You know. Did you like it? Did you like Tom
like as a guy? Was he a cool guy? Well?
(56:43):
Like I said, he was getting blonde there. I'm going
to come with this. You know, it's not how I
was raised. Yeah, he was. Okay, he was a pro.
You know, it was good. Most of the people. I'm
sure you've found the same thing, Bobby, that most of
the people you made are fine, are nice. We only
have a couple of bad ones, you know, until will
(57:05):
never have her on again? Okay, nice, Now we're getting somewhere.
Marissa Tomy, what happened? Because I listen, I can give
you Wendy Williams is the worst I've ever interviewed. Will
never have her on again. She's awful, Her husband tried
to beat her husband tried to beat me up after
Wendy Williams the talk show host awful. Yeah, and you
know what else is bead um? Oh, Drew Barrymore, what
(57:30):
happened there? Well, Usually the ones that are bad are like, um,
you know, they make a movie and they're supposed to
go see the movie before they come on. And so
when she realized I didn't see her movie, she had
had attitude, you know, like she goes like, whoa, what
do you mean you didn't see my movie? And I go, whoa?
(57:53):
You ever heard my radio show? So you know, hey,
yeah that's not right. But yeah, and then there was
the guy doing blow in the studio. I told you
about him. You ever think of writing a book? For
the most part, guys, everybody was. You know, it's been
a great run. You know. Let me ask about radio
specifically for for a minute. How many phone calls back
(58:15):
in like the nineties and early two thousands would you
get for song requests versus now? Because it's just not
the same animal as far as getting in touch with us.
But that's so weird you should say that because we're
just talking about that today. Yeah, people are different, they don't.
I mean, people listen to the radio in the car,
but you know, their favorite songs, they've already you know,
(58:39):
heard them, you know, whether it be our app, the
I Heart app ordor Pandora or Spotify or you know
what I mean, Like, you're right that people in modern
times have so many ways to get the music. The
funny thing is it's good for business because you know
they're not coming for the music. They're coming for for us,
(59:01):
mostly you, but a little bit of me, you know
what I mean, a lot of you. If you had
to pick the number, this is a tough one. The
number one most requested song of your career, where you're like,
this song was so freaking big you couldn't turn a
corner and it would not be splashing right in front
of your face. What's the number one most requested song
of your career? But I don't really listen to the music.
(59:27):
But that doesn't mean you're not in the room or
you're not with a program director. So yeah, I mean,
they like even nowadays, like just In just like for
me the music I listened to country music. I was
listening to you way little longer than I would listen
to me. For Oh my god, I would like to
(59:48):
ever heard of Justin Bieber song play every five minutes?
Oh it's awful. Which one are you playing? I'm find
of Justin Bieber? Which song do you hate the most?
I hate the most? H lonely lovely. Yeah. Yeah, it's
not even good yodeling. It's like gooler. You know, I
(01:00:10):
would like it. It's not it's bad yodeling, you know.
Oh man, I like it. I think that's a pretty
good song. But that we have different tastes obviously. Um. Well,
you know what's weird when you do a country show.
That's what I like. On my fortie anniversary, Lee Brice
(01:00:30):
calls me right and I lovely Bryce, you know, because
it's our song, my wife and I it's our song
hard to love. You and your wife have been together
for how long? What's the what's the what's the key
to that? That that successful marriage? We um acknowledge it
(01:00:51):
that having a really good marriages. Um, it is rare
at times. And uh and we're really good at that,
really good at Um. Well, it's a it's an. It's
an it's another Lee Bryance song. You know. The song
was a love like crazy or ever and he said,
never get too old to call her baby, and you
know overuse I love you tell you Lee, Bryce is
(01:01:13):
my god. You are literally is You're a real life
Lee Brice fan. You've not quoted two songs. Yeah, yeah, so, um,
not legit, I mean, but I'm glad you asked because
that's of of my life. Uh. You know, I've been
married before, so I know what a bad marriage feels like. Um.
And so we're very lucky, and I'm I'm lucky. I
(01:01:36):
don't know if she's lucky, but I'm lucky. You know,
we have a great marriage. What time do you wake
up in the morning these days? A couple of minutes
before the show starts? You know, do you have to
do right? Do you have a fancy driver? Does someone
drive you to work? No, I'm out of my house now,
okay with the pandemic, Yeah, I'm moved. I don't even
(01:01:58):
live in Boston anymore. Wait, that's not true. I don't
know if you're messing with me or not. No, I'm
not messing me. I live in Florida. I lived in
Palm Beach, yep it is. Did the listeners know that, Well,
they didn't know that the first year. Well it was
the pandemic. Then, like I had a place in Florida
(01:02:19):
and we were down here a couple of winners ago.
And you know, I was broadcasting from a studio down
there in West Palm And Um, so with the pandemic
and craziness, and we were number one in the ratings,
so you know, I kind of do what I want.
And um, I asked if I could build a studio
(01:02:40):
in my house and broadcast from my house and they
said sure. And you know, like I see my whole
team on screens and everything. You know, do you think
you'll do well? You do that for the rest of
your career? Oh god, you think I'm going back to
Boston five degrees there? I got off the golf course.
(01:03:01):
Are you kidding? Yeah? No, I ain't tol him back.
I mean I miss it. I mean I love that
town and they were great for me and still are.
But you know, I mean I'm on you know, I'm
on the I want the back nine. Actually I'm walking
off the eighteen fairway right now. And how much longer
can I do this? That's the question. How much longer
(01:03:22):
do you plan to do that? I mean, I got
a couple more years of my contract. Um what I
would I'd like to have the Howard Stern deal or
you work like three days a week. I'd be good. Um,
but yeah, I like the money, you know, I mean.
So they answer a question a couple of years. Problem.
At what point in your radio career did you feel like, man, financially,
(01:03:45):
like I'm doing pretty freaking good. Didn't quite expect it
like this. Well, I I don't know how much you
make more than I should, Maddie. Yeah, I don't make
Bobby Bone's money, but you know, you know, well, with
seven figures out, I've been making like I can't believe
they're paying me this money probably ten years. Yeah, and
(01:04:09):
they've been great. I mean, you're an I heeart guy.
You know, they good little company. They take care of us.
I think that they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
Well do you still enjoy it? I'm gonna ask you
that here you are forty years then you wake up
in the morning. It's it takes me about an hour
to get into the show before I start to feel loose.
But do you ever do you still enjoy it? I do? Well.
(01:04:30):
First of all, they're like my best friends. I mean,
Billy Costa, who is my you know wingman on the show. Uh,
he worked best friends in real life and he's my
best friend. So I do the show with my best friend.
So that's like really great. Uh. The downside is, you
know a lot of this stuff. We talked about his
(01:04:51):
top boy station. You know, like, do I care that
holds me is having a baby? I mean no offense,
but someone saying that's best the downside, you know, but
other than that pretty good. Why not flip over and
go do talk or go? Do you know a format
where the audience is a bit older? They pay me
(01:05:13):
millions of dollars to talk about all these pregnancies so
that it leaves you know, I mean it's kind of
like the thing about it, that's that's so unbelievable, and
I know you can relate to this, so unbelievable that
there are all these people out there who you know,
have how do I put this, have a fondness for me?
(01:05:36):
You know, I don't. I can't believe it. Like you know,
you say, I'm humble. I it's more than humble. It's shocking,
you know, it's just shocking that I you know, I
go to a restaurant and Boston and everybody comes over.
It's high, and that's like whoever would a dream bass?
That's crazy? Did you ever have an issue with crazy
(01:05:57):
is coming to your house or physically threatening you? Amazingly? No,
I mean sort of kind of once. Um, you know,
back when I was single, and you know, maybe uh,
you know, I think one time, I like, what are
those in the days where you do gigs or clubs.
You know, you'd be out and you'd be buzzed and
(01:06:20):
maybe occasionally say the wrong thing to a girl that
was attached to someone much bigger than me. You know,
stuff like that a couple of times. But nothing politically.
You know, I'm not a Trump fan, so when I
find say stuff about Trump that's negative, you know, I've
(01:06:40):
gotten a few emails, you know, um, you know, shut
up and play a record or whatever they say. But
never anything. I've never felt in danger. I knew a
guy and Tusun Arizona killed. Remember that story. This is
a long time ago. No tell me about it. He
got shot. I got shot. He said something. You know,
(01:07:01):
somebody pulled up to him and the car and shot him. Imagine. Man, No,
I have been very lucky in that regard. Did they
shoot him because of something he said on the air?
I got shot? Yeah? It was it because he says
something on a show that that irritated someone. Yeah, I
don't know, I mean that was the guest. I mean,
it could have been a loved one. You know, it
could have been a jealous guy or something, but you
(01:07:21):
know he was literally leaving the radio session in his car.
When you were a morning guy at Kissed One Away
when it first started or even the nineties, did you
ever have any other radio guys you looked at it said, dang,
like I admire what they're doing. I'd like to do
something not the same, but I'd like to kind of
have that same path. Well, when I was coming up,
I grew up in New York, and you know there
are a lot of New York guys and the rock
(01:07:42):
stations that I liked. Um, they're all along gone now.
I mean, um, yeah, I mean yeah, Jimmy Rabbit, you
just gotta go way back. Jonathan Schwartz out of New York.
I was a fan offest. Um, we're you're talking been
a thousand years ago, you know. Um when I first started,
(01:08:06):
and I, um, I didn't not add Top forty. You know,
I was a rocker, I was saying. And so they
sent me to l A and sitting with Ricky's. Remember
Ricky's do it? Well? Yeah, yeah, the company sent me
to sit in with rick and you know, watch what
he does, but we have a very different kind of show.
(01:08:27):
How was he? How was rick D's to you when
you met him? Polite? You know, we're from you know,
it's very different, is the Southerner. And he said to me,
so you're of the Jewish faith that I'm an Oh boy,
where's this going? You know, it's like memory of Ricky's.
But it was fine. That's it's much better than me.
(01:08:50):
How how good are you a golf now? I would
always hear that you would leave the show, finish your meetings,
and you have a tea time basically every day. Yeah,
but that there's no reflection on my love of the
game and my ability to play the game. That they
don't jubtail at all. You would think that amount of
golf I play that I would somehow have gotten the
(01:09:11):
hangout it, but you know I haven't. Yeah, I think
I spend more money on golf ball than anything. What's
your hand what's your handicap? Though, Let's be real, I'm horrible,
like a seven, you know, like, yeah, I mean I
should be better than that, but go yeah, well I
(01:09:32):
look at you and dancing with the stars, you're probably
like a nine. I mean, if I'm really playing a lot.
I just travel so much. I've probably about an eleven
right now, I knew it. Yeah, well you're that guy. Hey,
you know when those black glasses you wear, is there
a prescription in there? Absolutely no. My right my right
(01:09:52):
eye doesn't work at all, and that's part of the issue.
And in my left eyes fading as well. So I'm
kind of dealing with two different issues. Want to protect I.
I that's the only good eye, and you know the
other one is actually a working lens. So yeah, that
I'm definitely, you know, vision impaired. But do you ever
talk to anybody or Asian or anything about doing contacts
(01:10:14):
or something, because that's like it's sort of like you're saying,
you know, well, I'm such a generic white guy, Like
I'm just I'm not that good looking, but I'm okay,
I'm I'm not extremely tall, but I'm tall enough. Like
everything about me is just average. So yeah, through default,
the glasses just kind of became my thing because I
had nothing else about me. So I got a contact
(01:10:37):
about three months ago for the first time ever because
I have a new show that's coming out of that
GEO and Disney plus a TV show, and I have
to do some really crazy like active stuff, and so
I got it just in case I lost my glasses,
but otherwise I I wore my glasses. But hey, listen, listen,
let me say this. I know that you've been, you know,
a little funny with me. You kind of put down,
(01:10:57):
you know, you acting like it's not a big deal.
But let me, oh you. I admire you as a talent.
I admire your longevity. I admire all the rules that
you broke that allowed me to come along and kind
of rebreak those rules and not get in as much
trouble for it. And so you are massive to our industry.
You are massive to Boston obviously a talent that I
(01:11:20):
love so much. And you know, obviously I don't live there,
but we're up there enough that I really feel like
I love the people, and I just wanted to say
thanks for what you do. You really set a great
example for someone like me. Well, I don't know what
to say, man, that just I'm you know, I don't yeah,
I mean, like to me, it was like, just kept
going to work and pay me, and so I go
(01:11:40):
to work. But that's the fact that you feel that way,
And I mean, my career means something to your careers.
It's wonderful and honor that you feel that way. Well, congratulations,
I aspire to have the longevity that you have, and
thank you for spending a few minutes with Matty. Appreciate that. Well.
I I can't say this enough. I just so flattered
(01:12:02):
that you feel this way. I got the call to
talk to you, and I go Bobby Bones on a
hundred radio stations and TV and all that stuff. I'm
just like a little DJ in Boston. So the fact
that you feel that way is, you know, you just
it's great. I really flattered. I'll let you get back
to your warm lifestyle. It is twenty three degrees here
(01:12:24):
right now, and hopefully one day i'll see you again.
Let me ask you before you go. Yeah right, I'm
trying to hit a draw off the tea and I
can't do it. It keeps on loosening it to the right.
You're right, you're right handed, I'm assumed assuming yes, yeah,
I'm not finishing. Is that what I'm doing? So I'm
left I'm left handed, and I have to finish extra
hard to get that draw because I have a lot
(01:12:45):
of trouble closing my hands. Just as an instinctually, I
don't close my hands as much as I should, and
so I I really have to get my my elbow in.
I'm not telling you how to win your club, but
for me have to make sure my elbow is in in.
And then I'm already turning my hands earlier than I
think I should. Don't listen to my tip, but that's
what I have to do. That's a fantastic tip. And
(01:13:07):
you know, someday we'll meet in person, and uh, we'll
have a couple of beers. All right, Mattie, see you later,
all right, bye bye,
Host
Bobby Bones
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