#282 - Can You Guess The Original Names of Famous Bands? + Kalie Shorr on Going Viral with The Meanest Song She Ever Wrote + Walker Hayes on New Music + Eddie Talks To John Densmore from The Doors

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
M HM. Welcome to episode two eighty two of the
Bobby Cast. We will talk to Walker Hayes, We'll talk
to Kayleie Shore, Eddie and I will talk about the
horrible original names of your favorite bands, or bands at
least that you know of, and Eddie interviews if you're
a classic rock fan. John Dinsmore from The Doors, which

(00:23):
never had anybody step inages to an interview, but he
wanted to do it, and I was like, great, man,
have had it so uh pretty cool there. I will
start with this. I was reading it came out yesterday
that Dolly Parton asked them to stop trying to push
that bill to get a statue of her up. I'll
read you her message. Dolly said, I want to thank
the Tennessee Legislature for their consideration of a bill to
erect a statue of me on the Capitol grounds. I'm
honored and humbled by their intention, but I've asked the

(00:45):
leaders of the state legislator to stop and remove the
bill from any consideration. Given all that's going on in
the world, I don't think putting me out a pedestal
is appropriate at this time. I hope though, that somewhere
down the road several years from now or perhaps after
I'm gone. If you still phil I deserve it, then
I'm certain I will stand proud in our great state
capital as a grateful Tennessee in. In the meantime, I'll

(01:07):
continue to try to do as good as I can
make the state proud. Dolly Parton, that's why we should
put it up right now. She just further why we
should put it up right now, and they won't good
for her. Dolly's awesome. She just continues to be awesome.
Just when you think Dolly can't be any more awesome,
she's even more awesome. So we'll start with that. I
do want to do some new music out this week,
like we always do. Let's do smith Field at number five.

(01:28):
They have a new song out called Sunday Best Sunday.
At number four, Landy Wilson has a new album out
called Saying What I'm Thinking. It features her song Neon
Diamonds Hill for Champagne and Crystal spiel And here is

(01:59):
the title track from that record called Saying What I'm Thinking.
I'm out been drinking leave them Saying thank You. At
number three. Walker Hayes, who will talk to in just
a minute. He has a new song out called I

(02:20):
Hope You Miss Me And here's a club of that.
I hope you're living out the house that's where you are.
He said to go and baby job and the city
of that just you should say you want the party. Baby.
Love that guy, love his style. We'll talk to him.
Coming up in a little bit at number two. Is

(02:42):
Kayleie sure? Now? This song I'm Gonna Play You came
out today. It's a controversial song because she put it
on TikTok and she was legitimately talking about a girl
and she used her name, the real girl's name, as
the title of the song, and now she's put it
as a real song because it's got millions and millions
of views. But here's her song called me. So the

(03:14):
whole song is about that girl Amy hooking up with
her boyfriend right after they broke up and they were
best friends. I don't know, there's a lot to it.
Apparently she was friends with this Amy girl who's an
artist in Nashville too, and they were good friends. And
then as soon as her and her boyfriend broke up
because I think he was cheating on her, her him
and Amy start hooking up anyway, regardless, it's a very

(03:34):
honest song. We'll talk to her about it. Coming up,
Kaylee Shore and her song Amy. And finally at number one,
Adam Hambroke has a new EP called The Flip Sides.
Here is a new song from Adam called Broken Ladder chowm.

(04:00):
I'm clowning on Broken Letter. That's cool man. There you go.
Those are the five things musically that I'm looking forward to.
Um Music News this week, the A c M s
are returning to Nashville for a second year. It could
be confusing because every awards show has different letters on it.
C M as always in Nashville, c MT Awards always

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in Nashville, So it may seem like that's a weird thing,
but the A c M s are usually and have
been almost every year except for Dallas, been in Las
Vegas or way back in the day, California. UM So,
the fact our Nashville is a story to the industry
this year and I was a part of that. I
went to the Opery House and did my version of it,

(04:42):
but they did Opery House, Bluebird and Ryman and they're
doing that again. Hopefully this year there'll be able to
be some people there at least a little bit more. Uh.
The annual Academy of Country Music Awards are going on
April eighteenth on CBS again live performances from all three
places granted Oppery House, The Ryman, and Bluebird Cafe. The
year's nominations and a CM host will be announced at

(05:02):
a later date. So there you go. Um. If you're
wondering the difference between a c m S and c
m as both country music organizations, but the a c
M Awards it was a West Coast base. The a
c MS where West Coast based award chapter. Because California
was huge country music and the c m as were
Nashville country based. The a c M started the way

(05:24):
to promote country music in the thirteen Western United States,
which which means basically California. But here you go. Now
it's very Nashville too, because for the most part, country
music is made in Nashville, right, So boom, there you go. Uh.
Kenny Chesney is mourning the loss of a friend killed

(05:45):
in a helicopter crash. I saw his Instagram post and
I was like, dang, what happened with Kenny? Because he
had pictures of him at someone in a helicopter. But
one of his good friends was killed in a helicopter
crash in the Virgin Islands. And that post on Instagram
he says his friend Maria Rodriguez was killed with others
in a crash in St. Thomas. Quote she was a
dear friend of mine and to our island community. Man.

(06:06):
That sucks for Kenny. Miranda Lamberts announced she'll be performing
three socially Distant shows at Billy Bob's and Texas So
and they sold out quick and now she's added two more. Yeah,
people are craving live music, for sure, for sure, for sure,
for sure. Keith Urban returns to the Voice Australia. He
will return to the Australian Voice of the Voice for

(06:27):
season ten. He will coach alongside read To Aura and Jessica,
Miwboy and Guy Sebastian. Fun fact, he was the coach
on the show's first season. So Keith Urban back on
the Voice in Australia. And finally, this week four Non
Blondes the What's Up music video passes one billion YouTube views.

(06:48):
Crazy yeah money making off that Still there you go?
That's your music news coming up man a lot. We'll
talk about the bands you didn't know where named this
Walker Hayes and Kaylee Shore and Classic Rock, the Old Drummer,
the Doors from back in the day, Eddie's doing that.
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That's all. Thank you. Continuing on now, so we'll talk
about the original names of a lot of these bands,
and they do sound pretty terrible because it's not the
names they went with. For example, not on the list,
but you'll know this being a big Pearl Jam fan,

(07:51):
Mookie Blaylock, Mookie Blaylock, and that was their original name,
and why couldn't they use Mookie Blaylock because there was
already the name of a basketball player, right, yeah, he
played for the Sonics, played for a lot of the
couple teams. But but yes, so Mookie Blaylock was who
they were going to name their band after. But then
there were merch issues and rights issues, so they changed

(08:13):
it to Pearl Jams. Pearl Jam's way better. Why But
but again, if you would have said this, they we're
gonna call us a Pearl Jam, you've ben like what
a weird sh Yeah I know, but and you you
want to ask, like why, there's really no definitive answer,
like you know, from being like the big Pearl Jam
fan that I am, I've researched it all. Like white
Pearl Jam. Eddie Vetter would make up stories, I think,
and because he never confirmed any of them, but he

(08:34):
said that he had a grandma named Pearl and she
would make this hallucinogenic Jam, and that was the story
he went with. I think the whole band was like
roll their eyes and say whatever, man, like I guess
that's it. It's almost like the story about how Lunchbox
got his name. Okay, do you know the real story?
I know the story I've been told what's the story?
Unit was stealing a lunch box and his mom caught him,

(08:55):
and again he changes that story all the time. Did
you know there was a lunch box before lunch Box.
I hired another guy called him lunch Box when I
was doing nights, yes in Arkansas or in Austin, when
I was doing nights there, and so I always wanted
I watched Jay and Silent Bob all the time. I
loved all those movies. And he always called his guy,
his right hand guy, lunch Box. And I was like,

(09:16):
if you ever get somebody it's gonna go out and
do stuff, I'm gonna calm Lunchbox. So I hired another
lunch Box. His name was Kyle. Kyle was doing nights
with me as my guy stunt guy who would go
out and do crazy stuff. And I was like, hey, man,
I'm going to do mornings. And Kyle was in college still.
I was twenty three, twenty two maybe, and I was like,
he's like, man, I can't do it. It's like to

(09:37):
be in class every day. I was like, all right,
cool man, well good luck, because who knew what was
going to happen right with that morning show. So I
found Lunchbox Current lunch Box at the bar, and I
was like, Hey, you're just gonna take the name Lunchbox
because you're just gonna act like you're the same guy.
So now, did you tell him the story or did
he make up that story? He probably made that up, okay,
because I was always just like, you know, I love

(09:58):
Kevin Smith, and that's what then Lunchbox came from. But
that's where it legitimately came from. And there was another
Lunchbox briefly before Lunchbox. Does Current lunch Box know that
there was a lunch Box reform? And then for years
Kyle the O g Lunchbox like I screwed up. I
should have just stayed on the show, especially now. So

(10:19):
these are the band's original names. See if you can
guess them right, The Sex Maggots, the sex Pistols. No,
and I'm gonna give you a hint here. I'll give
you some hints until you get it, okay. It's a
band that at first when they came out, I think
they felt like they were real rock because they were.
But now they're on that hot a C category. They

(10:41):
had some massive hits and what a C. And we
don't think of them as like this real straight ahead
rock and roll band. But I think they they were
when they first came out. Okay, I'm gonna go with
who's Trent Resident? Oh no, no there, wait, Trent residuc Is? Wait,
Who's who the resident? Johnny Trent Resin is a little

(11:06):
bit of both, right, Yes, the answer is Johnny Resin.
Imagine they were still called sex maggots. It just didn't fit, right.
I think they were a real rocking band. I think
I saw them six or seven times in My Life Live, Yeah,
the Good Life. I saw him like two years ago.
Is he is dreamy as people say he is? I

(11:27):
think he's had a lot of plastic surgery now, but
he was a good looking guy. Yeah. Next up, Naked Toddler.
Naked Toddler has no relation to their current name. I
just wonder if you knew it Green Day Now. I'm
gonna give you a hint Toddler, Oh Nirvana, No, you
mean from the album never Mind Albul Naked Toddler. Here's
the first hint. I played Ping pong against the lead

(11:51):
singer of this band and probably two thousand and three
or four, whenever they were massive. They're made fun of
a lot now train No, I don't like kind of
train trains awesome like no one nickelback. No. But in
that vein, yes, naked Toddler better off calling themselves naked

(12:11):
Toddler was no way I would feel bad, like you
have anything to do with the naked tom up with
that too, Like guys, I think good name would be
naked Toddler. But what is creed? Well, it's naked terrible
by the one Toddler's bad. I was on the peloton
yesterday and they started to play maybe it was this
one as a as a cycling song, A little slow

(12:33):
huh yeah, like it's it started, and it's like and
I'm just trying to stay hype on the bike and
it's like Lodges heard my legs starting. I can't. I
can't help it, but slow him down, So tell me
about this ping pong? Like what how did that go down?
They were playing a show in Little Rock and I
was working for Q one radio pop station, and I

(12:55):
had backstage passes and I was like, holy crap. And
the thing about backstage passes are kind of stupid because
the band doesn't hang out backstage, really, they stay in
there bus backstage pass may put you in like a
a catering room where you get some food. That's about
it the real or unless you win, like a meet
and greet and they'll come backstage and it's an organized
thing with the band. So I had backstage passes and

(13:17):
I would just like, there's nobody back there. We were
like there's like a tub of water, you know, it's
some peanuts. So I'm sitting back there and someone comes
in and like, hey, does anyone not to play ping pong?
And I didn't, but I knew how to play. I
wasn't a player, and I was like, I mean, I'll play,
and they said, all right, well Scott Stapp loves to play.
Every tour he find bit to play with. And I
was like, holy crap. So I played ping pong with

(13:37):
Scott staff mc creed and he beat me like two
and really good. Yeah. I think it was getting irritated
that I sucked so bad, and also I was nervous
playing ping pong with Creed. Oh my gosh. Okay, next
up Tony Flow and the miraculously Majestic Masters of Mayhem. Okay,
so Tony Flow is probably that's the hint. Who was

(13:59):
Tony Flow who's like lead singer's named Tone? Oh? Great
context clue? Who is Tony? Nice? You're right? Tone Loke?
No Tony? What are other names for Tony? Tony Antonio,
Anthony oh dread hot Chili peppers Anthony keytis great job.

(14:21):
I would have never put that together. Tony Flow. Huh
that was the pepper's name. No, no hints needed there?
All right? How about this one? Blood fart? Who on
earth name their van blood fart? Oh? I mean, dude,
what do I start a Green Day? I'm gonna start
all of them with green Day? Okay. The hint is

(14:43):
when they first launched, they felt hardcore. We look back
at them now and go, they're kind of a joke.
I don't think I loved him. I loved him in college. Nickelback.
I never loved Nickelback. I just always liked them, but
never hated him. I think a lot of people consider
them a joke. And they started out hard. Yeah, I
think they never stopped thinking they were hard. They have

(15:06):
a bunch of hits. They did some stuff with like
method Man a red Man for a while too. Let's
a couple of tracks I'm thinking of like it's weird
now because He's bald Sister Hazel Harder, Live Harder. It's
kind of wrap rock. Oh I'm thinking of um my mum,

(15:30):
now not Lincoln Park. Is it close? You're getting there? Yeah? Yeah,
I feel like I'm around that genre. They were kind
of launched. They were kind of a derivative of another band. No,
but you're in that right area. Corn happened and then
they happened disturbed. I'm not gonna know it. You are.
As soon as you say the name, will be like,
of course I know that band. Now breathe in, now,
breathe our hands up, now, hands down, Iron, Butterfly Sugar,

(15:54):
that's that's not a biscuit. They were like that rap
rock kind of thing. And was it blood Farts is right?
I mean if you told me you were gonna look
on one of those Monarch and see tonight naked Toddler

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and blood Fart would be like, what what kind of show?
And I'm gonna rest every person in that in that place.
I want? How about this Alexis Texas? Okay, so they
gotta be a band from Texas. Solo artist Solo artist
Alexis Texas. Think of the rhyming male or female female
and they kept the rhyming in their name. Tixie Chicks

(16:34):
didn't Ryan Dixie Chicks Ryan Alexis Texas. Ah, I need
a hint, young kid, Jonas Brothers close. You're getting there.
Think of another state, Uh, another state, not Texas? Okay um,

(16:57):
because they Alexis Texas was the original name. They were
gonna based it off her being from Texas, but then
they had to change it because Alexis Texas was a
porn star. Oh, Miley Cyrus, Hannah Montana nice, yeah, you
get Alexis Texas would have worked, but again, she's a
porn star. Rat Salad, Oh, Rats Salad Metallica van Halen.

(17:23):
Oh you know what if they would have gone with
Rats Salad. Not that it's a great name, I don't
think there'd be a lot of fights Witt in the
band because Van Halen really started a lot of fights.
Because the guitarists and the drummer brothers named Van Halen.
They always thought it was their band, so when the
lead singer would come in, they'd be like, no, it's
our band. Uh, it's our band, it's named after us.

(17:44):
And they were Rat Salad. It would be like, it's
our band, We're rat salad. That would be confusing though,
because Rat existed to the band R A T T. Yeah,
Rat and Rat salad. How about zero but spelled x
E R O. Ever heard of that? Lincoln Park? There's
a a part for you because you don't know like
apart because I don't never heard of it, all right,
never heard of him? I guess that clips not loading?

(18:05):
How about Rainbow Butt Monkeys. You won't get this one.
The band's too obscure. You'll know the song when I
played now Finger eleven and they kind of launched out
with a hot ac hit there that it was a
rock song. But slow do we have that clip? Ray?
If it Trad's all they did? They were again from

(18:28):
a different band. Oh they were a super band, right
or it was the same lead singer from the band
with the masks slip Knot. Yeah, Finger eleven is slip Knot.
They did Paralyzer. Oh they had a different song too, Yeah,
good for you. I don't know, just look them up.
I believe that's that they were slip Knot again. I'm

(18:50):
just going from a heart here Canadian rock band. Mike.
Let me know if that's even true or if there
was a different band that was coming from Slip Knot
is looking it up for me. Now, let scroll down
a little bit on this page. Members, Oh, Stone Sour,
slipnome dang good job. Stone Sour had one of those

(19:12):
songs too that were kind of hot a ce rocky. Yeah,
I had my Johnny resnick Uh slip. Now you have
your Slipknot slip Yeah, dang Stone Sour. All right, Next up,
let's see what kind of rolled through some of these
village idiot nickel back. Okay, here we go. I need

(19:38):
you to really think about this one sweet children, oh
nice guns and roses, Green Day one time, I don't Day.
How about girls time g I R girls spelled t
y m e ce destiny child. How about the young Origines? Ah,

(20:02):
that would be Jonas brothers. There are three of them now, yeah,
roughly depending on what's what, but yes, we'll say three
of them, just like Jones brothers. It's like Jones brothers.
Are they boy band? No? Some would have said back
in the day they were a boy but the way
before Jonas brothers. Okay, so we're talking about twenty years
before Jonas Brothers were doing like maybe hip hop, right,

(20:25):
maybe like n W A No, um, New York, you're
Milli Vanilly no hip hop, hip hop but different. When
they came out, my mind was blown. They have one
of my favorite If I were putting five albums out
to pick for the my whole life would be one

(20:45):
of these albums. What are you talking about? Hip hop?
One of your top five favorite albums? Tag Team back Again?
Are you kidding me? Would think about it. There's three
of them. Three of them. You already said Destiny's Child.
I know that's one. One of them's name was Mike Mike,
Oh Beast Boys, you're right, what's the maame the Young Aborigines?

(21:17):
I've been funny? Yeah, right, funny, same thing, the funny
part about this song, and they were just making fun
of these guys and it turned into kind of an anthem,
and then they started just going, all right, well, if
you guys think it's real, we do too. And then
finally the T Set You won't get this, but I'll
give you some mince. The T Set well band was
the T Set Sets was probably British Oasis. Oh great

(21:38):
context clue there not Oasis, but you're on the right
track of Sime Older Older, the Beatles, uh later, the
Rolling Stones, Okay, go later the Rolling Stones were so
they had such a large area, you know space because
you know, basically st sixties on too. Now I would

(21:59):
say this is seven D's. They were formed in the sixties,
but they're mostly known for seventies late sixties. If you
want to get high and listen to you correct, Yeah,
Dark Side of the Moon nineteen seventy three. What you
were here? Nive the Wall nineteen seventy nine. Are you

(22:21):
a fan? I want to say fan, I'll I can
listen to some of Pink Floyd. I love it. Oh,
I love Team Floyd. Have you ever watched the movie
of the Wall? Have you ever done The Dark Side
of the Moon with a Wizard of Us? It works?
Are you sure? Oh yeah, it's legit. One of these
days I'm gonna come over here to your house and
we're gonna do it to You're not gonna unluck to
drop ascid and we're gonna get uh coming up? Oh yeah.

(22:46):
Eddie interviews John Dinsmore from The Doors. I haven't heard
this yet. It's really cool. I'll listen to it whenever
I listened to this whole podcast. It's cool. We talked
a little. We talked a little bit about Jim, which
is weird. I'm like, I don't know how to talk.
I know he's probably used to it, but I mean,
Jim's dead. This is band made, so I'm like, how
do I really bring this up? We talked about Jim
a little bit. We talked about Eddie Vetter being a
cool Jim Morrison because they played together. It's kind of

(23:08):
a fill in. Hold on a second. I didn't know that.
But let me for those who don't know the Doors
seventies band, Come on, baby, late sixties only a band
for five or six years? That right, Come on my fire?
Or um? How many you can do? Riders on the Storm,

(23:30):
Down Down? Then? Does that? Don't do? Um? Let's see,
come on, you got another big one? That Roadhouse Blues. Sure,
that's a good one. Well, I won't up this morning.
Then I got myself. Yeah, okay, what else Riders on
the Storm Roadhouse Blues. You're missing a big one? Hello,

(23:50):
I love you. Okay, that's a good one too, sing
it Hello, I'm trying to the other what's the other one?
A big one? Huhh? When something is not Oh, break
all to the other side, break all through. That's it.
That's tough that those are all Doors songs. The lead
singer's dad. You asked him about him. Yes, we do
talk about Jim a little bit. And Eddie Vetter filled

(24:12):
in for him. So when they were inducted in the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they played uh, and
Eddie Vetter filled in for Jim and it was really good.
I mean, I'm again Pearl Jam fans. So I loved it,
he said absolutely, like it was awesome to have Eddie
up there. A lot of resemblance to Jim, for sure.
He said that if you had to pick one person
that's filled in that spot, it would be Eddie better.
He was the best break on to the others were

(24:33):
talking about drugs. It's kind of like, you know, could
they function back in the day, like which no one's
ever come on and do an interview. That's not me.
So I appreciate you doing this. And of course did
you have fund doing it at a blast? And I
was the last one in the day to talk to him.
I guess it's kind of like a tour or whatever. Uh,
And so I had kind of a limited time. How
long did you got hours? You went three? It was

(24:56):
about twenty minutes. Really yeah, pretty good though. All right,
that's coming up in a little bit here. Thank you
guys for hanging up on with us right now. Walker Hayes, Walker,
how are you? What's up? Man? What are you doing
your home? I'm sitting at home responding to some emails, man,
That's what I do these days. What are you doing?

(25:18):
I'm sitting at home in the snow and ice, looking
out the window, wondering if I'll ever get out of
this place. Have you gone sledding yet? No, we haven't
gone sledding because we don't have anywhere around here to
sled and we don't have any sleds. So I guess, now,
where do you? Where are you sledging? Is it like
a hill near your house because we have nothing? Yeah,
across our street we have a little hill that goes

(25:40):
down to a ravine. Man. And so all my kids
are taking the skateboard wheels off of their skateboards and
they just it's like they just snowboards down it every day.
How many of your kids, and I watch your videos
on Instagram and TikTok, how many of your kids want
to be performers? None of them? None of them? Man,

(26:02):
I mean they they see it as a as an
occupation and what takes me away from them. So, I
mean they enjoyed music and stuff, but none of them
are just chomping at the bit to perform. Now I'll
take it back. I have a my daughter, Locksley. She
she is a performer and she she loves the camera.

(26:22):
When it comes on, she lights up. Does she want
to do that for her career, like for her livelihood?
I mean she's seven, so whatever she says, I'm kind
of like it'll be different next week. But I mean
she loves to steal my phone and like do her
own YouTube channel where she just chats and picks up

(26:43):
things in the room, talks about them and stuff like that.
So I mean it's looking like she wouldn't naturally fall
into a job like that. But we'll see you, ma'am.
When you were seven, eight, nine years old, did you
want to be in country music? In music? What was
the deal? No, man, I'm want to I wanted to
play pro basketball and I believed wholeheartedly that's that's where

(27:04):
I was gonna go. And um, honestly, man, when I
was that age, I wasn't thinking about the future. Were
you were you like, Hey, I'm gonna have a radio
show when you were a kid. I know book, but
I can't remember. Yeah, yeah I knew it. I knew
it from five years old. But five years old you
were like, I'm gonna do the radio thing. Yeah. I
was always confused at how people didn't know what they

(27:27):
wanted to be their whole life. I was in second grade.
I was like, I know exactly what I'm going to do.
I know how I'm gonna get there. And I was
always like, how do you guys not know what you
want to do? So, yeah, I've never had My grandma
kept a thing from me when I was five years old.
So what do you want to be when you grow up?
And I said I wanted to be on the radio,
on TV and a stand up comedian and so I

(27:49):
just always knew. So um anyway, Yeah, I was one
of those kids you made fun of. I hadn't did.
I had no clue, man, no clue. How good of
a basketball player that were you when you were a kid.
I mean I was good in high school and I'm
not I'm just being completely honest. I was. I was
good for mobile and then um Winter Birmingham Southern and

(28:10):
realized everybody was really really great. So that it ended. Man,
you played college basketball Birmingham Southern. You tried to, No,
I tried to. I was kind of a walk a
walk on is situation, and um, it just wasn't gonna happen.
I wasn't. I wasn't good enough class. What class school

(28:32):
was your high school? I think we were four or
three or four A when I graduated, So you know,
being good in three A doesn't really translate to NBA
later in life. Most points you ever put up in
a game, Oh, I have no idea. I'm in the twenties.
I don't. I don't even think I ever hit the thirties.

(28:54):
All right, well we actually talking man, not to talk
about your sports background, but actually to talk about you
have a new song out today called I Hope You
missed Me. I'm gonna play a clip of it here
real quick. Here you got living. That's where you are
said to go, baby said job and city of that right,

(29:16):
you want the party? So tell me about this one.
What did you write this about your kids or what
you know? Baby? I'm always drinking. Every every kid has
to have a song. But back back on the subject
of Locksley. Her initials are L. A. H stands for Locksley,
Azelia Hayes. And man, she's just a free spirit and

(29:41):
I know she wasn't born to stick around. I mean,
she's gonna go do great things and who knows, maybe
that's performing, but she enjoys the limelight. And um, that's
where the inspiration from this song, where they came from,
was just that bitter tweet, you know, love and so
body knowing they're gonna fly away from the nest and

(30:03):
being sad about it. Is this part of a new
album you're working on? It could be, we'll see, We'll
see it's part of a I would say it's an
EPs situation right now. It's the first of a few
that will be coming out that we've recently finished. No,
I've got a song called Briefcase about my dad, and

(30:26):
then a song called Cry in the Cans. So but yeah,
I'm really proud of this one. Shane mcinally and I
started this a year ago, so it's nice to see
this one be released. Do you know what I ask
an album question? I actually mean now I'm just thinking
about what I meant by album. I actually mean any
body of work period, even an if he would count,

(30:47):
because I'm not a guy who thinks artists who put
out fifteen song records anymore, because I think a lot
of them get passed over because people have no that
they don't, you know, have the patience to sit and
listen to all the songs. So let me reask. Are
you going to put out a collection of a few
songs anytime soon? Yes? Yes, I feel I will put
out a collection of songs. How many songs will be

(31:08):
on that collection has not been determined yet, But um man,
we we have some good music that we wrote in
the past year, and I'm excited to just release music again. Man,
I see you charged seventy bucks on cameo, But I
see you play guitar in each of your videos. Now
do you you take requests? How does the cameo thing
work for you? I am obsessed with cameo? Do you

(31:32):
do this? No? Oh my gosh, you you would bank Bobby,
But uh, man, I I love cameos. I take requests
and I always sing a song from my people, and
I absolutely love it. Man, I mean I truly love
being able to just make personal messages and sing songs

(31:54):
to people. Uh through cameo it's amazing. I love it.
How many requests do you get today? Do you? I average?
I mean I'd say I do at least three or
four a day. But I mean, you know what when
holidays come up is go to work time. Baby, I'm coming.
You know Valentine's everybody wants. Don't let her um. I mean,

(32:15):
it's dude, it's it's fun. I mean they'll they'll start
doing the math and letting everybody know what kind of bank,
what kind of cash flow. I was, I was doing
the math right then. To be honest with you, I
was doing, OK, let me something, man, cameo is a
good it's a good hourly rate when you when you
when you narrow it down. But dude, like I said,

(32:36):
it's a it's a really really bad opportunity, especially now
and being cooped up. I mean, I don't get to
play shows. So you know, it's nice to know that
people out there want to hear songs and they always
have requests. I love that this new beard look. You're
rocking solid? Love? Yeah, I do. I was last night.

(32:58):
I was looking at your Instagram and I was like,
what about Walker? Is it that I'm extremely attracted to
right now? And so I zoomed in and it was
your beard. Is this a you get a hold with
this or is this a new It's just something just
for a phase. Uh. Man, that's a culmination of a
lot of things. Um My dad's not doing so well
and I've been going down to Mobile and helping take

(33:20):
care of him. And you know, it's like one of
those things. I just woke up and didn't stay for
a while. And we know, when a couple of people
give you affirmation about something, you're like, well, I'm hanging
on to this, you know. And and then I and
then when I when I would visit my dad, I
would joke and be like, guys, I want to be

(33:41):
like you pop And so yeah, man, I'm gonna hang
on to it for a while. It's not getting annoyed. Now.
I am learning that beards are not low maintenance by
any means. I mean, I thought they thought they were,
but they're more. They're more maintenance than shaving. Um, you
gotta shin oil all this stuff. So well, let me

(34:04):
wrap on this. You did a verse on Nikita Carmen's
song then some which I believe you you produced it
as well. What's that? Yeah? Right, like, I mean, what
what does she like as an artist to produce U
to to hop on a song with? Like, why did
you do that? Come on, why do that? Bobby? You're
the You're the reason I know Nikita Carmen. But that's
not why you listen. You know a lot of folks,

(34:26):
we know a lot of folks together. But I'm saying, like,
why her, Dude, I just fell in love with Nikita.
I mean, I think I know joke. You can tell
me if I'm wrong, But I remember telling you backstage
one day, let's let's go in together and make a
label and just put her on it, because that's how
much I believe Nikita Carmen. But I just think she's

(34:48):
a fascinating individual. I think she's one of the best songwriters.
I've sat in a room with every single title if
she sent me. It's one of those situations where I say,
I try to guess what the song is gonna be about,
and I'm always wrong, and it's always better than I
could have imagined writing it, And she sings so pure

(35:11):
everything on that record. I don't I don't have auto soon.
I don't know how to fit someone. So if I'm
gonna produce someone. They have to be able to sing
um really well. And she's just so talented, she's so
pleasant to work with. Sure her work ethic is incredible.
And yeah, dude, then some is a jam. But really, dude,

(35:33):
every song on the Garden, Key Carmen the Garden, y'all
go check it out, Holy smokes to employ your mind.
Every song I can't think a favorite. There you go,
Walker Hayes. Follow him at Walker Hayes. Get you a
cameo nine he's over here rolling in then, yeah, and
check check out. I hope you miss me, Hey Walker,
Gonna talk to you, bud, and hopefully I'll see you soon.

(35:54):
All right, buddy, thank you? There he is walking ahead.
Everybody on right now is kayleie or Kaylee? How are
you good? How are you pretty good? You know? We
spent I guess a couple of shows ago, the podcast
and the radio show talking about this new song that
you put out today called Amy. We also went down
the rabbit hole trying to figure out who it was.
All this but and we'll get to that in a second,

(36:15):
but I gotta say I believe you called it the
meanest song you've ever written? Is that true? Yes? Okay,
So I just want to get in your head a
little bit. Someone's ever done to me? I think? So,
you know, so start there, what exactly happened to you? Um? So,
I actually started this song two and a half years
ago when this happened, and I've had the idea for

(36:36):
the churse for a really long time, but every time
I tried to write it, I just couldn't get there
because I was so upset. But basically, I had this
friend for a couple of years. We you know, did
so much stuff together. I helped her out with her career.
She you know, asked to borrow my guitar and all
my clothes and whatever, and I thought we were really

(36:57):
great friends. So when I go through this terribly messy
cup that I made my album about, I thought that
i'd you know, be able to have her to lean on.
And then she just disappeared. And I was so confused,
and I was like, maybe he's busy. I don't know.
And then I started to like put it together and
he had um they had like started working together separately too,

(37:17):
and I started to just get a weird vibe and
I was like, no way would she ever do that.
I'm being crazy. I started the song idea, and I
was like, don't write that song, that's not true whatever,
and then, um, about like last year during quarantine, she
put out an album and I listened to it and
one of the songs had his name in it, and

(37:38):
then I knew everything I thought was right, and then
I found out like what happened and whatnot, and so
I finished the song because I finally had a full story. So, okay,
you finished the song. It's got I looked at it
as over two million views, so congratulations, awesome. Um have
you have you heard from her since the song started
to blow up? By relay? I have not known, and

(38:00):
you haven't. It's complicated and I haven't reached out. I
just you know, I mean, it's definitely I never expected
it to blow up. And I've been putting people's names
in songs on every product I've ever released, and this
is the first time anybody has ever tried to figure
anything out. So I did not see this comment. I
knew what I was putting out there. I just did

(38:23):
not think that people would take such a big interest
in that. I started, you know, going down the rabbit hole,
and I figured it out and we talked about it.
I think I figured it out whatever, But then I
started to listen to her music and then I'm listening
to your music and I'm like, Hey, if Kaylee and
this Amy girl have planned this, this is great. This
is like Puffy, This is like Coach versus West Coast
hip hop back in the nineties when they were faking
some of that stuff to to create press. Are you

(38:44):
telling me that's not what this is. Um, I'm absolutely
telling you it's not what it is. And the reason
why I think that this is different than just you know,
because there were there are a lot of comments, and
people were commenting on the video and there were crazy
stories from is one girl her mom's name was Amy
and her mom was the person who stole her boyfriend

(39:06):
and that was crazy. And then there were people making
the argument that's like I'm married to my best friend's
X and he's been happy and whatever, and it's totally different.
And I think that, Like, you know, I have plenty
of people I've dated. There's my friend's name to me
and we're like, hey, I think I like this person,
what do you think And I'd be like, oh, yeah,
they're a good guys. Didn't work out. However, in this situation,

(39:27):
it ended in a really bad way. Um that I've
documented many ways over open Book and it's been pretty
clear what happened in my song forever um. And I
think that anytime, and especially in a time of need,
that a friend kicks a toxic guy over there one

(39:47):
of their best girlfriends, that's more anti feminist than calling
it out. What about him? Have you heard from him
since this has happened. He's probably so used to this
at this point. I mean, he had to left her
open Book and um, he's also got way too much
pride to ever talk to me about. How many followers

(40:07):
do you get whenever like instant single on Instagram, who
I post because they're funny, post a screenshot of of
like you as a tweet, or when these people start
posting the TikTok videos that you know they're taking your stuff.
Do you see a big influx and followers that happens.
I do, yeah, And it's always really funny because like
I'll get calm and said will be like, well, I
just thought you were like kind of hot and funny,

(40:28):
but like, I guess your music is pretty good too,
and I'm like think, like yeah, right, like whatever it
takes to get them to your music, right. Well, yeah,
I mean it's not. This is just who I am.
That's the thing too. And I think that this song
comes off a little bit weird at points because I'm
choosing humor as a way to cope with it. But

(40:50):
I mean, I've been really upfront about all of the
bad things that have happened to me in my life,
and this is very small compared to some of them.
But I choose to just be like really straightforward about
it and be able to laugh at it. But I
think if this song was like a slow ballad, it
wouldn't be hitting people um as like uncomfortable at points.
But this is just how I cope with it. This

(41:11):
is me being sad, Me being sad as me sitting down,
I'm writing a song and just getting my point across
and saying exactly what happened and then I can move
past it. On Twitter, my last question about this specifically,
you're you still have the same boyfriend, right, that's he's
motion on Instagram with the same guy. So what does
he think about you writing a song about a past

(41:33):
relationship ish thing? Well, he's a songwriter too, so when I, Um,
I actually asked his opinion. I was like, hey, what
songs using I should post on TikTok and he was like,
you should post Argentine and you should post any and
I was like okay, and then I did it and
then blew up. So thankfully he gives me good advice. Um,

(41:54):
but yeah, I mean he's written songs about people he's
been with, and we also wrote that song eighteen on
my album Together, which is actually about the same people,
so this is not foreigned as and I think that
if we can, you know, I think if we can
write about these things together and separately and not take
it as anything other than just processing your motions, I

(42:15):
think that's that means that we're pretty built to last.
What about this Framing Brittany documentary giving your thoughts on it?
Oh my god? Well yeah, I did the whole podcast
episode on last week. But it just shocked me because
I think so many of us were, you know, casually
complicit in her treatment, because I mean I was too
young to really know what was going on. But it
was just this joke. You'd make a joke about all

(42:36):
I'm gonna go crazy and shave my head like Britney Spears. Meanwhile,
this girl who's done nothing but be kind and entertain
us has fallen apart and nobody's coming to save her.
And I'm just so glad that this is something we're
talking about. I think there's still a lot of issues
that are unresolved, but on the podcast episode, I really
dove into how we can all be Britney Spears. You

(42:58):
can be Britney Spears in middle school on a Facebook site,
or you can be like you can go through that
in a small town like it's this one. It's a
feeling where you know somebody's going through a hard time
and said you chose to make fun of them and
pile it on as opposed to help them. So I
love Brittany. I plan to watch it this weekend. I
haven't seen it yet, but if you were to say

(43:20):
that you liked someone more after watching that documentary, who
would you say that would be Brittney Spears, And I
mean her assistant, who's I think like she's like her child,
her mom's childhood friend or something. But she is the
one person there where you know, without a doubt that
she loves Britney Spears, and it really shows okay, and
who did you come away going? Oh? I feel worse

(43:42):
about them than I did going into it. Oh, her dad,
for sure. I'm not a Jamie Spears fan. I'm a
Jamie Lynd Spears fan, but I'm not a Jamie you guys.
Check out Kaylee's podcast called Too Much to Say with
Kayleie Shore. She goes into it in depth. She got
a new song out to called Amy that I hope
you check out. Are you on cameo yet? Kaylee? I

(44:05):
am on cameo yet? How much? How much are yours? Um?
They're twenty dollars? But I donate a portion to the
Trevor Project. Well there you go. Go and maybe she'll
write a mean song about you. That's what everybody should do.
They should come to you and go, hey, I will
do I will write a chorus. I will rewrite the
chorus of Amy with any name you want in it
and security. Follow Kaylee at at Kaylee Shore on TikTok

(44:29):
and Instagram. K A l I E S h O
r R. Check out Too Much to Say with Kaylee Shore.
Check out Amy. She's got a lot going on. You're
gonna be hearing from her forever and ever. And ever.
Kaylee Shore, Hey Kaylee, thank you for talking with me
and hopefully talk to you soon. Thanks. Hey John, how's
it going? Hey Eddie? What town are you in? I'm
in Nashville, Tennessee. What do you know about Nashville? What

(44:51):
do I know about Nashville? Let's see, I was in
a bar one time. They're upstairs and I don't remember leaving.
But anyway, we're where are you too? Are you in
l A? I'm I'm in l A where I was born. Yeah,
I can. I came out of the womb of the
l A woman. You know. That's funny. I saw that

(45:13):
you were born and raised in l A, and I
thought automatically, I'm like, I wonder when you're born and
raised in l A, are you always wanting to be famous? Like?
Is it just a goal from the very beginning? Like
I'm gonna do something in Hollywood, I'm gonna be in
a band, I'm gonna be famous. Like what what was
that road for you? Like? Yeah, good question. I I
grew up in the suburbs and it could have been

(45:35):
you know, Kansas or somewhere. It only when I in
my late teens, ventured into Hollywood and realize, Oh, this
is the entertainment mecca of the world. So as a kid,
I was just out there in the suburbs. So let's
talk about your book a little bit. John. It's called

(45:56):
The Seekers. The book um it's uh, let me see
get the title is The Seekers Meetings with remarkable musicians
and other artists. I'm curious about the other artists and
why they're just not remarkable musicians. Well, uh, I threw
in a couple of poets, and acting teacher and the
Dolly Llama mystic guy, so you know, they aren't quote musicians.

(46:21):
So I had to kind of paraphrase the subtitles so
they were included. So tell tell me a little bit
about this book. What what was the whole point of
writing this? And um, what's what's it about? In a nutshell? Um,
I wanted to give a tip of the hat two
artists who fed me and U. I uh, it's a

(46:45):
very eclectic group, you know, Willie Nelson and Lou Reed
and Patty Smith and jazz musicians. But maybe that's uh, well,
that is what the doors are about. Were a melting
pot and that's what America is about. Two, So we
gotta figure out how to become the United States. Yeah,

(47:08):
I agree with that. I saw Bob Marley on the
list too, and I'm a big Bob Marley fan. Curious
to know that story a little bit about like how
you met him and what you got from him. Well,
I only met him for a few minutes backstage. But um,
Robbie Krieger, the doors guitarist, and I were in Jamaica
before reggae came to the States, and uh, we knew

(47:30):
there was some magic coming. And we went back to
l A and and I saw Linda Ronstad's bass player,
Kenny Edwards, and I said, listen to this stuff, and
he said, what is it? Reggie said, no, no, no reggae. Reggae. Well,
a year later Linda covered many rivers to cross and
was number one by a Jimmy Cliff. So they're welcome.

(47:54):
You know. Marley was such a visionary. He wrote about
no woman, no cry women, and and issues and racism
and and everything. It just really creative. Great artist. Well,
let me ask you this, I mean, add especially of
the realm of your book. Who is one of the
coolest artists musician you've ever met? And who were you?

(48:18):
Who'd you really geek? Over Oh, well, everybody in the
book pretty much. I mean, I geeked over Elvin Jones,
John Coltrane's drummer, and uh, by the end of his life,
I'd help him bring his drums to the car, you know.
So he was a mentor for me. Yeah, I know.
I I see that too. I mean, and so I

(48:39):
see drums in your back in the background of your
picture there. Do you still play a lot? Yeah, a
little bit here and there, not as much, but I'm
I'm kind of looking for music in between sentences, which
is cool. Yeah, I was gonna ask you that too.
What is John Densmore listened to these days? Are you?
And are you on a Grande fan? You like Bieber? Like?
What are you listening to? I like it all classical

(49:02):
world music. I find it interesting that if I'm listening
to some music that is in another language Brazilian, Spanish, whatever,
and I can't literally get the linear dialogue, I still
feel the culture. I get a feeling of that culture,
and that's healing. That's what music does, goes right to

(49:26):
the heart, not to the brain. Yeah. I read you
were a dancer too, Is that right? You dance? You
dance some a little bit after that, I was I
was drumming for a dance company, you know, primarily. I
mean they got me up there running around a little bit,
but that was not really my thing. I mean, you
think it goes hand in hand. You're keeping the rhythm
of the band, you might as well move with your feet, right. Hey,

(49:49):
I always wanted to jam with a tap dancer. Maybe
I'll do that in the future. So I want to
talk a little bit about the doors, John, Uh, you know,
I was raised on the doors. You know. Listen, my
older brother listened to you guys NonStop and listen to
all the records, and and we would always talk about
you guys and just thinking about what life was like

(50:11):
in the late sixties for you guys when you watched
the movie and you listen to music. In my mind,
what I created in my dumb mind was like, God,
these guys must live in a haze seven, you know,
like and not really know what was happening. Is that
factual or was it controlled? Were you able to just
live your life normally or were you just completely high

(50:33):
all the time? No? No, Like Oliver Stone's movie was great,
Val Kilmer was incredible, but it's cramming six years into
two hours. You know, there was downtime when Jim was
quiet writing poetry. Oliver said, well, that's not filmic, and
he's right. But you know, it wasn't all crazy all

(50:55):
the time. And when it was too crazy, we'd send
Jim home and the next morning we'd get the vocal
take we wanted when he was straight. So there you go.
When when you worked, when they worked on the movie,
how much of a hand did you did you guys
add to that storyline wise? And and were you happy
with the way it came out? Yeah? I thought Val

(51:18):
Kilmer should have been nominated for an Oscar. Robbie and
I were helping out. Ray had a conflict with Oliver.
Ray wanted to direct the movie because he went to
film school. But um, you know, it was a great
kind of impressionistic painting of our career. And there's also
a documentary called When You're Strange that Johnny Depp narrated

(51:43):
that has a little more of the sixties period in there,
and the two films kind of I think represent our
whole career. When when Jim passed, did you what was
going through your mind? Did you think your musical career
was over? Did you know you're gonna keep going on
and do and something else. Well, it was hard to believe.

(52:05):
I thought it was gonna be an Irish drunk who
lived at eighty and uh, you know, we didn't know
we had a disease, and we didn't have substance abuse clinics,
so we didn't know what was going on. But we
were playing. So the three of us kept playing right
in our rehearsal room, and we made a couple of
albums after he died without him, and we went, what

(52:27):
are we doing here? Our focal point is gone? So
let me ask you this. One of my coolest videos
that I watched back I guess in the early nineties
was when you guys got inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame and Eddie Vetter came out and
sang with you guys. To me, that was cool because
I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. I love Eddie Vetter

(52:48):
and and at that point in my life, I'm thinking
Eddie makes a really good gym, you know. And I'm
sure you guys had a lot of people step into
that spot. Who was your favorite to step into that
spot and and fill in for Jim when you guys
play Eddie Vetter, I mean, I love the guy. You know,

(53:08):
Scott Whyland was great, but Eddie's I don't know his pipes.
He's got a baritone like Jim and and I just
love the guy. And I've sat in with him on
his solo shows a little, a little here and there,
playing hand drums, and he's just one of the most
soulful guys walk on the planet. Yeah, I agree. I'm

(53:29):
a huge fan. I love that video. I still own it.
I have it on a VHS tape somewhere, maybe in
my attic, but very cool to watch. Um. Also to John, uh,
you you have a you have a kid? Do you
have a a child? I have grandkids. Okay, So what
was that like for for for your child? Like, does

(53:50):
he know how cool you are? Or does she? I
don't know if it's a boy or girl. You have
a son or a daughter? I have both? Yeah? Okay,
So so do they know how cool you are? Do
they care how cool you are? Do they even know
how cool it was to be in the doors? Well,
they know that their dad has to go to the
bathroom and get divorced like everyone else, so you know,

(54:14):
but they know that I'm admired by other musicians that
they respect, so then they think, well, he's all right.
I guess yeah. Was was that a thing? Did anyone
want to become? I'll let you get that. Wait a minute,
my phone's ringing. Can we cut this? Sure? Of course? Okay, sorry,

(54:38):
one more ring, I got the sound off, all right,
All right? Now, lastly, you know so so so Bobby
likes to ask this question to people he he um interviews.
And I think it's a great question. But if you
could pick one Door song to never ever play again,

(54:59):
what would it be to never ever play again? Ever? Well,
I love uh Texas Radio and the big beat Da
da Da da da. I played the melody instead of
just the backbeat. And uh, that's one song we never

(55:21):
played live, and I would die to play it. So
there's the reverse answer. Here's the opposite of what I asked.
That that was cool, you know, listening to the Doors,
you definitely had I don't. I feel like drummers sometimes
they just have the easiest gig because they can sit
back keep the rhythm. But you didn't. You were Your
drumming was a big part of the music. Uh. And

(55:44):
and that's big jazz influence, right, Is that correct? Absolutely correct? Yeah, yeah.
The first job is to keep the beat. But if
you can have a conversation with the singer or the
guitar player and spur them on, then all the better.
So what one last question? I'm sorry I said the
last one was was the one more? John? We're in

(56:05):
country music. Our radio show is a country music show,
a morning show. And and what I hear a lot
from from fans and all the older fans of country
music is listening to new country music and saying that
ain't country. Yeah, it's a very it's a very common thing.
And I remember to listen to the Doors and and
my parents or my parents friends saying that ain't music.

(56:27):
Did you was that? Was that a thing? You know,
when when the Doors were trying to make it? Was
that part of the struggle of just like no, no, no,
this is music. It's just not what you're used to hearing. Yeah,
there's always a resistance to something new, but you know,
I mean, I I have Willie's Roadhouse Blues channel on

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my radio and I'll hear Old Merle and Patsy Klein
and it's not my genre, but I get it. And
you know, you'll hear here Willie now playing a guitar
our solo and their space in that solo. And that's
what's so melodic and beautiful and catchy I write about.
This technique is not everything breathing and silence in between

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the notes. So there's two cents. Yeah, I like that.
I like that. Well, John, thank you so much for
your time. I pretty good luck with the book. You
also have another book as well, and that's kind of
more of a biographical doors book. Is that right? Well,
I have three self centered memoirs write us on the

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storm first one, the Doors Unhinged, and now the Seekers
cool Man. Well, good luck. I look forward to reading
all those, and thank you so much for your time.
I really appreciate it. All right, we'll see you, Johnny.
Catch you