New Artist Kylie Morgan stops by the house. Bobby and her talk about how this is the first time they’ve officially met but have known about each other for years. Kylie talks about her small Oklahoma town where she developed her love for music and moved to Nashville as a teenager. She talks about how she got in the room with major songwriters and led her to releasing her debut project. She also talks about her recent engagement at Whiskey Jam in Nashville.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome episode three oh two. It's a nice sunshiny day
here on early Friday morning, and we do this on
Friday because all the new music comes out on Friday,
so we'll play some new songs in a second. Also,
Kylie Morgan, she came over to the studio. We talked
about moving from a small town in Oklahoma to be
an artist here in Nashville, getting proposed to during a show,
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releasing her debut project. So hang out a few minutes,
but let's go new music Day number five. Blanco Brown
has a new song called Nobody's More Country for California
Middle see one thing loves the country more than me.
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That's very good fun. Uh this is all you know
the new releases that I'm most excited about today. At
number four, Lauren Elena released a new song called if
the World was a small town, If the world was
a small town, A settle for the way you want
to settled down boy, and a suck So go out
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with it all man, If friend, baby baby, we would
have made it before if the world was a smart town.
At number three, Brandon Ray has a new song I'll
called a family album. Before you know it will be
running out of pages for years and county. So what
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do you say, baby? I think a family have At
number two, pretty cool collaboration here, Shy Carter call Swindell
and David Lee Murphy released a song called beer with
my Friends, but I feel better with my brain time
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with two weeks talk about with that fools see big game,
then stop seeing us coloring me on Lane, We're gonna
get that Old working Boys and the number one song
this week. And Chris Lane talked about this on a
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Bobby cast about two episodes, how he wrote a song
for a son who wasn't born yet. Well at the
dun now he's born. It's called I Ain't even met
you yet? Here you go. I feel ready put out
feels here. I love you and I ain't even met you.
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I wonder what your first words be. I wonder if
you look like I would encourage you guys to go
back a couple of episodes and listen to that. With Chris,
it was right before he had his baby. I mean
like three days. Yeah, it was like any day it
could come, and any day it did. So those are
the top five releases that I'm most excited about this week.
Let's go to some news John Party is on vocal rest.
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That means absolutely no talking and no singing. The rest
of his shows this month will be rescheduled. John talks
a lot, which is gonna be very difficult for him,
but I do know he is being extremely vigilant about
not talking. The thing is, I mean, imagine this, You're
not being able to work for a year and a
half because of COVID and it's like, okay, let's go
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time to go back to work, and everybody's super excited,
and it turns out you can't because something's up with
your throat. That sucks. Yeah, I mean there are a
lot of things. It's like that's one of them. So
he has to go on vocal rest. Hopefully the time
they gave him will be the time it takes to
get normal, and it's not an extension. I don't think
it will be. I hope it's not going to be.
But I've just seen you know, Jimmy Westbrook from Little
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Big Town, you know he or when they were out
for a bit Keith Urban for a while. Most vocalists
at some point have to do this, especially if they
weren't trained how to be a vocal like John. I
don't know, everyone to training. He started singing, it was
good at it and got better at it. So I
don't know that he uses his voice in a way
that someone who's a trained singer does. But he also
sings like someone who's not a trained singer, you know,
So anybody hope he gets better. How is he communicating?
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Do you have like a dry erase board? You know?
Hand signals writing just like anyone like you would if
you didn't, if you weren't able to talk anymore. Kurt
Cobain's Doodle self portrait sells for two hundred and eighty
one thousand dollars. A collector just shelled out more than
two dollars for a piece of Kurt Cobain's history, a
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self portrait character called Kurt Cobain rock Star, but the
C in Cobain is k and Cobain was auctioned off
and sold. He signed the drawing on the left side
and on the right side of the picture he wrote,
I don't know how to play and I don't give
a hoot. Pretty cool. It's like it's expensive. I bet
you though, that ends up being worth a lot more
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than that. Yeah, for sure, in five ten years I
could see that being one of the those things where
it's like and they got a deal at one thousand dollars.
Janne Kramer has sold her wedding ring to pay for
home renovations. What have you seen her husband at all
on Instagram? Well, not a X yet, but the person
she's so X. Yeah, she told that ring to make
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house renovations. Brooks and Dunn announced their reboot tour be
a pretty good show. Travis Trip will open and so
will Lvie Shane. That tour starts September two in Indianapolis, Indiana,
and goes and tell septemb in Dallas, Texas. They can
still play and singing. Man. I saw him in Vegas
right before pandemic and right before that, Ronnie and Kicks
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came and played with us the raging idiots at are
Ryman Show. And there they can still play. I mean,
Ronnie came to rehearsal with the band and just saying
to make sure that you know, I don't know if
we could keep up or he could keep up one
of the two. Probably if we could keep up. Isn't
he sick to day of the Ryman Show a little bit? Yeah?
But he sounded amazing, great line up for Heart Radio
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Music Festival has been announced. Billie Eilish, Cheap Trick, Coldplay, Due, Lapa, Florida, Georgia, Line, Journey, Collead,
Little Baby, Maroon Five, Nellie, Sam Hunt and Wheezer. You
know the daytime stage. I was a little shocked to
see Olivia Rodrigo. I thought the same thing. It's gonna
be so packed and crazy for that. And usually if
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someone big does the daytime stage will also put them
on the big stage. I'm surprised she's not on the
Maybe she'll make an appearance, but I feel like she
asked you she's as big as you can get right now.
Like she's bigger. She'll draw more of a crowd than
Nelly called and there's a there's a real people. But
right now she's as hot as it gets, as far
as in the pop world. Uh so, uh Olivia Rodrigo, Sweedie,
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All Time Low, Well there's going huh all Time Low.
It kind of got like a revamp in their career.
Golden Russell, Dickerson, Gabby Barrett, Tate McCarey, a Conan Gray
and Addison Ray. Uh. I mean, Assen Ray is a
big one too, but her music care has just started.
She's a big you know social media TikTok, Yeah, TikToker.
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Garth Brooks announces Nashville Stadium show that'll be July thirty one.
It will be Garth's first time playing that stadium. Tickets
going and sell June. They'll sell out in a second
two seconds. Brett Eldridge is announced dates. It was a
Good Day Towards kicks off September six in Cleveland, Ohio,
runs an early November. Morgan Evans is the opener. You
want the date, it's go to Brett Eldridge dot com.
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And Lauren Atlanta is going to be in a movie
called Roadhouse Romance on the Hallmark Channel, a debut September eleven.
So that's what's up in music. Appreciate you guys listening
to the podcast, and I hope you like to interview
with Kylie Morgan. Enjoy all right in studio with Kylie Morrigan,
which I think the first time that I knew of
you is Walker Hayes had posted maybe you performing at
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something and Walker on our buds and he was like,
hey she's I hit her up. I was like, hey,
she's a good He was like, yeah, she's good. And
you had a song I called cuss a little right right, Oh,
this is very correct. What do you remember? Because and
here's why you're here. And I saw you put a
trep and I've been looking for a reason. I've been
playing your song on Women by Her Country, a little
bit different stuff. And so when you put the record
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and I was like, let me, let's get around on it.
It feels like I know you, but I don't really
know you. Get So, what do you remember? Because it's
been a couple of years. I think it has so um,
it's so funny. I remember getting a call from my
grandfather's wife and she was like, oh my gosh, Kylie,
Bobby Bones is playing your song. I'm freaking out him
in the car. You don't know this, but I've been ribbing.
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I've been writing Bobby Bones for months, telling him about you.
And I was like, yeah, it's all because of you.
I think that's exactly what happened. I love that. So
you say that again? Who was it? So it's my
grandfather's wife and she's been writing me for she apparently
she's been writing you for months, telling letters. I guess letters.
I have no idea, but I think it was maybe
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her manifestation mixed with um Walker and I his relationship
all aligning finally, so let's just go with her manifestation
because I like that, and so yeah, and then that
was kind of how I knew because again we played
cuss a little in the women in Buy Our Country? Right, Yes,
how long ago is that? Well, what's funny is when
you first played it, it was just a demo of
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me and my acoustic guitar that I put one bart
before I went out on tour with Walker. So we
needed like something that proved that I existed online. So
I just put like me and my guitar, um just
like a few original songs. And then you played that
one on the air, and then I finally signed my
deal with Universal, and flash forward three years later, then
the actual track finally comes out and I'm like, finally
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I can actually show people that it exists. I didn't
know that that wasn't the like full, you know, mature song.
I don't know. That was just a guitar, just me
and a guitar, Like do we have a little bit
of that? Yeah, here you go, people, Batcher watch my Body,
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and that's not on the new record, And we'll get
to the new record in a second. You did you
write that with Walker too, or did you? Yes? So, um,
what's crazy? Walker? And I wrote that when I was
nineteen twenty five now, and that's what's so cool about
it is the fact that I wrote it with him
so many years ago, and people are just hearing it
for the first time within the past year. And so
it's been like one of those things. I've been playing
it in my live show for years and everyone's like,
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what is that song coming out? I'm final, like one day,
one day, and I'm like, that day's here. Finally you
didn't put on the new record, though, I am all
right right, So with putting a single out with it,
we already had a song called break Things Out and
then my last single, shut Out, and so I wanted
to make sure that there was room for new music
and room for new songs, and so with the singles
already out, I'm like, well, that already has its own
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life out there, and now I want to introduce people
to some new music. So I agree, Yeah, you had
more space to put more songs. Yeah, exactly here should
It'll be featured on The Women of by Her count
three on the weekend of June, which I've already scheduled
that to go down. Here you go, lady, could Shane,
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couldn't I ever been a goodistat old? When I'm couldn't
I never been a goodist? Saint? When I'm so, I
see that you wrote that with Shane mcinally and also
Ben Johnson. How how do you get a right with Shane?
Is it because you write it smack and you kind
of first in line? So the story of Shane and
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I is pretty amazing, and I'll condense it a little bit,
but long story short, I moved to Nashville with my
very first publishing deal, um more of a smaller company
at nineteen and so since I moved here with a
deal already, I never met with any publishers or anything
like that. And so, um, after I was kind of
ready to kind of move on from that, I was
wanting to meet with publishers. And before I could even
do that, I got a call from Robin Palmer, which
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is a huge part of Shane's story as well, how
he got his first cut with Kenny Chesney. And I'll
never forget this voicemail, and it was saying like, Hi,
this is Robin Palmer from Smack. Um, so I've never
heard of you before, and I want to so call
me back. And so I met with her and uh
Lee Crab which is another song plugger at Smack, and
I just fell in love with the family and of
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the whole idea of Smack. And so I met Shane
actually at the Bluebird Cafe when he came to see
me perform, and it was like one of the very
first times playing the Bluebird, and so it was a
very surreal moment. He sat down and he was like,
I'm Shane, and I'm like, I'm very aware, I know
who you are. And so um, once that happened, he
kind of just adopted me and we became very close
friends and co writers and now he's my producer as well.
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So he's doing it all, all of it well, which
is common for Shane to do it all very much.
So what is your story about getting to Nashville. You
grew up in Oklahoma the whole time A zero to
win and when did you move out here? So zero
to nineteen. Um, I started going back and forth to
Nashville at fifteen. Long story short, I got my very
first little pink guitar when I was twelve years old
from my grandfather, and I just fell in love with it.
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I started writing songs on it, and I just knew
that's what I was supposed to do. So I told
my mom at twelve that I was skipping college and
I was moving to Nashville to be a country music artist.
Who taught you how to play chords at twelve? So
I looked up, originally online kind of self taught, and
then I actually had a guitar teacher try and teach
me theory and I was like, absolutely not, I don't
want I just want to learn how to play stay
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By Sugarland. And so I found this guy to teach
me just the chords to the country songs I've been
listening to. And that's when I was like, oh, I
can not only write my own songs, but I can
play other people's songs. And then I just knew that's
what I was supposed to do. So, you're learning on
that pink guitar at twelve, fourteen, fifteen years old? Are
you playing anywhere like in school, around school to to
get better? So I really just like dove in and
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started touring everywhere. Um at fifteen, when I started coming
to Nashville for the first time, I ended up getting
in rooms that I should not have been in. But
thank god, I have this guy who pretty much just
took me under his wing. His name for Rust Abbotson,
and he's such a huge part of my story. And
he put me in a room with Walker Hayes at fifteen,
which what I couldn't believe that. And so I got
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to write with such heavy hitters as such a young age,
and learned so quickly. And so I started touring heavily,
going back and forth to Nashville. Ended up stopping UH
public school and switching to online school so that way
I could just do it all the time and not
have to worry about it, and then graduated early. Immediately
wanted to get all my ducks in rows. Saved all
the money I had, and bought a house in Hermitage, Tennessee,
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and came out here at nineteen and I haven't looked
back since. So when you move out here at nineteen,
what is that like? I mean, you don't have any
friends here yet? Or did you have a few of
you had made through coming back and forth. Thankfully, I
made quite a few friends going back and forth. But
I also, um, my grandfather's from Chattanooga, Tennessee, so I
had family kind of near and so I definitely had
like a system where like I felt like someone I
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could call someone if something happened. But thankfully with russ
Um and his wife the niece and then introducing me
to so many people, I feel like I immediately had
family out here. You have roommates in nineteen at the house, Yeah,
I still I still have a roommate, thank god, because
she watches my dogs and I need someone for that.
Specifically where your roommates then in music? No, so um,
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Originally my first roommate was I went to high school
with her, and then UM, I actually got her a
job at the publishing company that I was at at
the time, and then um, she kind of moved on
and ended up moving back to Oklahoma, and then UM,
I got a new roommate, and since then we have
not had anyone in the music industry, and we like
to keep it that way. Well, if you want someone
to watch your dogs, you need to be someone on
the music industry, because I mean, you're staying in town.
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Our situation too, So what what's your town in Oklahoma,
Like it is very small Newcastle. So it's like one
of those where if I would have stayed and graduated
with the people in my high school, I would have
graduated with probably fifty people. Um. Yeah, So like everyone
knows everybody, everyone knows everyone's business. And I think that's
why when I came to Nashville for the first time,
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I was always just in a different headspace than everyone
in my hometown, and so when I came out here
for the first time, I was like, oh my gosh,
everyone is just as weird as I am. This is awesome,
And so I felt immediately at home. What about you
wanted to do music? Why? What was it about it
that you're like, Okay, I'm a kid Because me, I
was five, I knew what I wanted to do, but
nobody else did, and it was weird to me that
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people didn't know what they wanted to do. Same I
grew up going how do you not? Like I knew
I wanted to be on the radio on TV and
be a comedian. Never didn't know. But what about it? Like,
when did it hit you? What was it that first
guitar was watching someone on TV where you said, dang,
I have to do this and nothing else is acceptable.
So I stayed um a lot at my grandma's house
when my mom and dad would run errands, would work,
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and so um, I actually fell in love with all
of my mom's old Shirley Temple VHS tapes. So I
watched her every single song she did. I'm gonna arize
every single dance move I memorized. I would run in
my dress up. That's the old old school. Oh yeah.
And I was like, well, she's three four years old.
If she's doing it, why can't I do it? And
so that's when the first thought in my head that
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I was like, this is what I want to do,
This is what I want to be, And there was
just no other option for me. Should say as you
were you allowed kid? Were you you know it's someone
that wanted attention? Yes, I was very much. Yes, I
have a little sister and an older sister. Um, but
I was a very much like putting on shows in
the living room, watch me, watch me, watch me kind
of kid. At what point in your life did you
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realize you actually had the talent to sing? So, I
will be honest, I remember my mom being like, maybe
she'll get better like around the tenner eleven. And then, um,
it really clicked when I started learning guitar because like
the whole like just like chords to pitch to melodies
to lyrics. That's when it all kind of came together
and the stars aligned. And then my mom was like, oh,
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maybe she could actually do this. And what did your
mom say when you wanted to start going back and
forth to Nashville as a teenager. Thank God, my mom
became a fast manager very quickly. She toured with me
up until I was nineteen years old and was very
happy to pass over for the management duties to smack
as well. And so um, she was really just like
by my side the whole time and knew how serious
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I was about it and saw how I was doing
it because she was right there. And so that's when she,
thankfully um made that her full time job, which was me.
And that's the reason I honestly i'm here today because
of her. I'm gonna play track two. I only date cowboys. Yeah,
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training time. I did see on your Instagram that you
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just got engaged to yes in the last week, right, yeah,
last week actually, And it's a it's a guy named
Jay Allen. And we actually wrote. Yeah, we wrote that
song together and it was funny enough. I was in
Oklahoma City this weekend playing with the okay See Philharmonic
and heard that song on the radio for the first
time when he played it for the Heart Woman of Country.
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So I was getting my hair done and I was
just like listening and like bouncing up and down. It
was very exciting. So you wrote this song with him?
Were you together with him when you wrote the song? Yeah?
So we've been actually together for six years since you
moved here and got a house, literally moved at nineteen,
little Baby, and he and I met and it was
like no looking back. It was just like two thieves
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in the night. And he pretty much thank god he
was here because he just showed me Nashville. He showed
me the music industry, showed me how to do it,
and so UM he has been by my side throughout.
We've actually been able to rise up together, both as
rising artists, and it's been the most amazing thing because
he just gets it. Is he an artist too? Yes?
Is he a country artist? Country artist? Yes? And so
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what's his deal? So he signed with Verge Records and
UM is actually about to put his debut EP out
this fall, So we're kind of like neck and neck
and releasing things and it always ends up this way,
even though we have different managements, different labels, and it's
been fun to be able to rise up separately but
also be together. And how did he propose? So? Um,
I started going to Whiskey Jam when I first moved
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to Nashville, and of course just wanted to meet people,
wanted to see the live music, wanted to meet everybody,
and so um, I would call him all the time
to meet me out in Midtown and we would go
to Whiskey Jam together, and so um, it was a
pretty full circle moment. He played Whiskey Jam last week
and then brought me up on stage. We sang a
song that we wrote together, and then he sang a
song that he wrote for me that will be on
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his debut EP. And then got downe on money and
asked on the Whiskey Jam stage and did you know
it was coming? I had a feeling because my mom
was really persistent about me getting my nails done, and
I was like, Mom, I really don't care to get
my nails done. What's the sitch? Yeah, A little bit,
that's that's not fun, But I think it's it's a
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fine line to walk because I just had to do
this with We've been engaged now for like eight or
nine months or so. We're getting maried the next few months.
But I had to make sure her nails were done.
But I also didn't want her to know that she
was getting your nails done for a reason. So how
did how did you propose? Well, so we have a
barn like you drove in the front here back behind
the basketball court back there, there's a barn and we
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had been working on just kind of rebuilding because it's
an extremely old barn. Once once it was used for
horses on this property, but we don't have any horses here,
and so we have been kind of going through going, hey,
if we ever gonna kind of rebuild this thing, what
would we do? And so I had hired someone to
come out and do some work, to look at it
and to kind of show us some plans of what
we would do. And I'm extremely color blind, and really yeah,
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I just can't see it all. My right eye doesn't
work in colorblind And so it was we're looking at
paint to paint, and I purposely set all this up,
like this part of it weeks ahead. Really, yes, I'm
so nervous that she was going to find out. But
I said, hey, we have to go match this paint.
I told her we had dinner with two of our
friends in a nice place, so I knew she would
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be nicely dressed that and so but we had been
off shooting my TV show and we can't. We flew
in and no one could be working on it until
we got in the house. They had like thirty minutes
where they could rush in to the barn, set everything
up that I had planned set up. I had a
friend that that helped me as well, this is giving
me anxiety. So once they're done, I got a text
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that's like the text was like, hey, the show is
gonna be good on Tuesday. Something some real, you know,
odd thing that she could never figure out what it
was in case she saw my phone, and so I
was like, okay, cool, And so we walked back to
the back the show is going to be good ones
and I was like, I said, I got her back
there because like, I can't tell this paint color. I
can't tell if it's the right one. I don't even
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know if it's red or dark blue, and I was like,
just come with me real quick. She was annoyed a
little bit because she has she's in hells. He's walking
into the backyard and she's like, can we gonna do
this tomorrow? And men like nice shoes, and I'm like,
just come back to the back And we opened it
and the whole barn had been rebuilt with lights and
flowers and trees and you know, hippos, the whole thing.
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And so she shocked, She's out of her mind shocked.
I proposed, and then I said, hey, come with me.
And so we walked and there's this this hill. We
have a pool right here, and there's a hill that
goes down. We walk up the hill and she hears
like our song And so I don't know if you
know Matt Carney is the artist. Matt Corney has a
song called Nothing Left to Lose. It was a massive
hit ten years ago. But we went to one of
the show when we first started dating, and she said
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when he was playing that song, She's like, oh, that's
when I knew that I loved you. And so so
his song was playing and she was like, oh, but
he walked up the hill and it wasn't a song playing.
I had him come and play. Oh my gosh, when
you have connects, that's the best time to use. So
he was playing on this little stage on top, and
then we danced and and then it was all good.
It was like to that, everybody, it's good, it's all
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my It was definitely good. The best part Washy, she
never found out. That's so incredible that that makes it
twenty times better. It was the best. Yeah, I just
But back to the nails thing I was. I had
a friend that had two weeks prior had said, hey,
she needed to get her nails done. She's going to
somebody knew, and she was nervous about it, and so
she wanted Caitlin to go with her, and so I
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even had that set up. But luckily that she never
found out and it worked, and thank god she said, yes,
nailed it. No pun intendon and then nailed it. When
had you you hadn't seen the ring no, So that
was a huge surprise of me. I didn't know how
he was going to do it. When he was going
to do it, I kind of like realized, I'm like, oh,
my whole family is here for two days every like
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and he got my dad away from his collision repair
body shops. So I was like, there has to be
something happening. Well, what he like kind of set it
up as was he was like, Oh, I'm releasing my
record this week and we're doing a big release party
and I want your dad there and what your mom
that word? Yeah? So I was like, okay, yeah, I
get it. And then um, and then we were facetiving
my best friend and we had been drinking a little bit.
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This was like two weeks prior, and I was like, Lauren,
you should come because um, we're doing three shows that week.
My family is going to be here. And he was like, yeah,
I'm planning something really special. I was like, oh no,
and then Lauren was like oh no. And so I
didn't know how it was happening, what the ring looked like,
any details, but I kind of had a little bit
(25:24):
of an idea. So would you have rather when it
picked the ring out yourself or be surprised with the
ring and really not had a choice. I am so
strategic on every single part in my life, and there's
a very few things that I wouldn't want to choose
or that I'm indecisive about. One is nail color. I
will sit in front of nail like colors for forty
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five minutes and I will choose it like five different times,
and I feel like it would have been the same
thing with the ring. And he has such good taste actually,
and so I actually was so happy that he just
did it and I didn't have to worry about and
it's beautiful and I love it's perfect. So so let
me see, dang, what's that cut called? So he keeps
saying over and over, he was like, this was the
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Kylie Diamond. It was perfect. It was exactly what I
would envision for you. And it's a pair cut. So
it's like, yes, I knew nothing about cut. I knew nothing,
I had anything until I went in and had to
pick out a ring. Oh yeah, it's it's a thing.
I didn't Honestly, I didn't know anything about anything either.
I've just seen a few photos on Pinterest and I
was like, any about you know, roundabout when you guys
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want to get married, So we know we want to
get married in Fort Myers Beach because we went there
for the Songwriters Festival not too long ago. Probably I
guess I was too long. A was it was like
four years ago. I fell in love with the people,
fell in love with just the islands, the beach, and
so every time we go back there. We now have
like pretty much family there. They call us the country kids.
We come there for Easter every year. So I'm such
a beach person and so I know I want to
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do it there, but um, we have no idea on
anything other than that I love the beach. I just
can't get into it. Are we having our first fight?
Maybe I just don't. And I'm sure for our honeymoon
we're going to go to a beach or something. She
loves the beach. Are you a mountain person? Are you
a studio person? Yeah? I just for me, the beach
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is a lot of sitting in the sun on the sand.
Oh see, I'm like, huh, I think I'm maybe more
of a lake person. And I would credit that, but
then you're the same. I would credit that to growing
up in Arkansas, we had no no ocean, but you
didn't either, See. I think it was like the opposite
for me since we didn't have an ocean. We grew
up on a lake, and I was like, this is great.
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But the first time I went to l a and
saw the ocean. I was like, oh, this is like
the definition of God on Earth. And I just loved
it so much. So I feel like you can't go
and you can't really wake board or wake skate on
the ocean. The waves are too big, always a little
snot noose, kids running around. Maybe you just haven't been
to the right beach. I don't think there is a
right beach. I've been to some cool beaches. Mike, take
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him to the right beach. I just sawa, get out there,
and I'm like, well, now what? And you can't really
look at your phone because the son's blaring down. That's good,
that's good. The water, what do you mean? Put your
feet and it's fun. It's fun. For like a second,
I'd rather take a bath and go to the beach.
When it comes to water, I just have Maybe I
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haven't found but Caitlin loves the beach. I'm sure that's
what we're gonna do. So where where is she like
loving to go on vacation? Like, where is she like
if she could pick up a certain beach. Funny you ask,
because we didn't get to go on vacation last year
because the pandemic we've been together about a year and
seven eight months something like that. We really haven't been.
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We went to some islands somewhere down below Florida. There's
some islands. Know we went to, Uh do you remember where?
I can't remember. It seems really Virgin Islands. We went
to the Virgin Islands. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm not good
all that stuff. So have you paid the destination for
your honeymoon yet? We have? We have? We have. I'm
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not going to say we're quite yet because yes, yes,
well I'm sure you'll wind up at a beach. I'm
sure we will do so. As a kid, you are
a competitive gymnast, yes, so I feel like that's where
I honestly really got the self disciplined part about being
an artist. Um. You know, at the end of the day,
you can be talented, you can be X, Y and Z,
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you can be unique. But like the truth is, I
feel like you just got to outwork everybody, and I
feel like I will. I promised myself I would always
do that. Um, And I think I got a lot
of that from being a gymnast, just because it's not
a hobby. It's like a five days a week through
and a half hours a day kind of thing lifestyle.
And so when I channeled that energy into the country
music genre, at the end of the day, I was like,
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am I going to the Olympics? No, like not going
to happen. Oh how about I just be a female
country music artist. Turns out that's just as hard. So
I kind of picked the second of this thing. But
I knew that, like from the beginning, that I wanted
to do something that impacted people, and with songwriting, I
feel like that's kind of the key for me. What's
the tattoo? This is the day I moved to Nashville. Yes,
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so um. Honestly, this was like such an important day
for me, like the day I became an adult, the
first time I like chose what was in my pantry,
the first time I didn't have to ask permission to
go x Y and Z and so um, it kind
of became a very important day for me. And Nashville
is my my happy place. Have you been able to
meet any of your heroes while being here? I have.
I've been very lucky to um meet so many people
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that I've looked up to. And you know what's crazy
is they say, don't meet your heroes, but they don't
know the country music genre either, because every person that
I've ever met, that I've looked up to has truly
been the best. And I just feel like, again, like
that's why I love country music is because of that
reason right there. It's like just good people, good roots,
and good music. And so especially like when I this
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past year before the pandemic, I was chosen for this
CIMA Kickstart program and I was able to present a
show or present an award at the pre show for
the c m A Awards. So I got to meet
so many people backstage and I was just like trying
not to fan girl, but like while trying to be cool,
you know, And after meeting everyone, I was just like, Yep,
this is this is my happy place. This is the
home because everyone's just so genuine. Who is your mount Rushmore.
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It's four people of the coolest people you've met and
the cool people you want to meet. So let's do
the ones you've met for once I've met, let's see um.
Number one would be Dirk Spentley. He is just like
the most kindest human and will recite when you last
like interacted, like he's just so good about that. Um,
and especially with like him and his songs, like in
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his live music and his life show. It just makes
me so happy every time I see him. So he's
number one. Um. Number two I would say is kit More.
I went out on tour with him not too long
ago and he just treated me so amazing and like
took a chance on me when he could have picked
so many other artists to take out with him. Um,
and I really owe a lot to him for that.
H Third would be Walker Hey is of course, um
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he has been like my big brother since literally a child.
And then UM, fourth, I would say, this one's a
hard one because I have about seven people that I
want to choose, But I would say Reba. I met
her backstage when I did the CRS of It for
Universal last year at the Rieman. I guess it was
two years ago, and Um, that was the moment I
was just like, I don't even I blacked out. I
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don't remember what I said, but all I knowed she
was amazing and her being from Oklahoma too, I was
just like, Yes, this is everything I've ever dreamed of.
So on the other side of it, if you had
to pick four, you haven't met yet. That you want
to meet. Who would you put up there? Um, I
would say I have not met Miranda Lambert, but I
feel like we'd be friends. She just seems so cool
and such a like just like chill chick, and I
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feel like we'd get along so well. UM love her.
I feel like, UM, I would just love to pick
Taylor Swift's brain on everything. I just have so much
respect for her for all the things that she's built
at such a young age and me starting so young.
I look up to her so much for that. Um,
Shania Twain would definitely be top. She is like one
of the people that I've always looked to as far
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as like if I could have a career like anyone,
it would be like Shania. And then four I would say, Man,
this one's hard. Four I would say, I haven't met him,
but I have heard such good things about him as
Garth Brooks. He's also from Oklahoma, and I've never heard
anyone say negative thing about him. And I respect people
like that so much who are to that caliber and
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I still remain the same human. Yeah, you picked four
good ones. If you'd have picked one that wasn't I good,
I'd probably wins. I would have not said anything on
the MinC but I went like this, you would have
made a face. Sometimes people are like, I'll just make
up a name, Jersey John. People can be like, man,
I just can't wait to meet Jersey John. And I'm like,
in real life, I'm like, oh my god, John's the
biggest due. You don't want to know those are good
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ones and there's no Jersey John. So anybody named John.
I just that's just something I came up with. That's
not on you. You just released your EP. What's a
release day like for you? What was it like? Man,
I would just have so many words for this because
it's been honestly over a decade in the making. I
started this journey at twelve and started picturing my debut
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release forever. And I always joked about, you know, people
little girls would be planning their wedding their whole life,
and like I was planning my release and just like
what songs I would choose, and how the like, how
the would what order they would be in, and you
know what the subject matter would be. And what was
so cool about it is since I had so long
to plan for it, it was like the first time
in my life that I just felt so confident in something.
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Um As an artist, you obviously you just all I mean,
you know, you always question yourself. Am I doing this right?
Is this person going to like it? Well? These people
like it? And this was the first time that I
did something for me that I trusted in and that
I knew was a part of the plan. And I
felt like it was really the next stepping stone that
I've been waiting for for so long. And each song
I really felt like was a part of my story
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and I really feel like other people could relate to
as well. And so with debuting the EP, I just
like had so much confidence and so much love for
the project that I feel like I reciprocated that. And
it was just such a magical day. A lot of
interviews with little places, big places, blogs, is this nonstopp
was But I it's my favorite thing to do. I
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love to talk to people, first of all. I love
to meet new people. And being able to just like
continue to build the story and continue to like get
the word out is just like my favorite thing to
do because at the end of the day, all I
want to do is write songs and I want people
to connect to those songs and turn to those songs.
But if I don't do things like this right here,
no one would ever hear those songs. So that's why
I'm like so appreciative and like things like this, is
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because without these things, people would have never even heard
of me. They would just stay in my room and
my guitar. You are talking about connecting a lot. Are you?
Are you yoga? Do do yoga? Or do you teach
yoga something? Do? Yes? What? What? How did that come about?
So being a gymnast for ten years, UM, moving to Nashville,
I really just missed the kind of like reason for movement.
I was like, why am I just going to the
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gym to go the gym? Like this is really not
entertaining to me, And so I went to my first
yoga class. UM. Coming from Oklahoma, there was not anything
like that there, and so going and moving to Nashville,
there was so many new things to try and so
many new things to do. So I went to my
first yoga class and just fell in love with the
whole like idea of that. It was like a mind
body connection reason for movement, and me being a type
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a personality, I dove head first. I was like, oh,
now I want to be a teacher because I just
can't do anything as a hobby, you know exactly, And
so um, I actually got my teacher certification out in
San Diego. UM, spent two weeks out there and started teaching,
fell in love with it, and now I love like
merging the two audiences of like the yoga crowd with
the country music crowd, because it's two completely different crowds usually,
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and so to be able to kind of merge those
things together and meet people over here, meet people over there,
introduced people together, it's been pretty cool. Do you teach
a class where you play music? So during quarantine, when
none of us could do anything, I decided to do
a Nama stay at home series, So I would teach
a yoga flow and then most of the times in
the time I would sing at during shavasana, which is
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like where you close your eyes at the end and
everyone's perfect, perfect time for listening. So I was like, oh,
why not play a song? So um, yeah, that's been
my favorite too, to kind of incorporate both together. But
during that time that was kind of the only thing
I could do, and so I was really lucky to
be able to do that as well. And then I
also partnered with like, for instance, the Ryan Seacrest Corporation,
where all the kids over there I got to teach
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them at yoga class and and um I also got
to do some things with St. Jude and so it's
been really cool to kind of like sprinkle that around
my country music peeps. Do you want to teach classes
here at all? Would you? So I'm actually no, no
time at all, um, But I'm actually trying to plan
a very first festival this fall where I mix health
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and Woe's Festival with the music festival. So I'm working
with a company right now. It's very baby stages, but um,
I want to make like a health festival during the
day and it transitioned into a giant music festival at night.
So it's pretty much like wond Er Less meets Stagecoach
and so it's going to be like this big festival
where I get artists that I love to come play.
I also get like people and vendors in town that
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I've met through my yoga kind of things that I've
been doing, and get everybody together and just throw one
big party. Do you have any injuries from when you
were a gymnast I had. UM, I had a sprained
ankle that bothered me for years, and I'll never forget what.
I did a split jump on the beam once and
landed on my tailbone and that was the worst pain
in my entire life. And the sucky part is is
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you can't fix it with anything. You just have to
like be So sat on a doughnut forever and just
waited for it to heal. UM thankfully was able to
kind of rehab that as well as the ankle through yoga,
and UM that's actually how I found yoga. I was
really sick for a long time a few years ago,
and UM, no one could tell me what was wrong
with me. And that's when I really dove into health
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and illness because I was like, well, I'm just going
to figure out what's wrong with me and myself. So
I listened to like every podcast, read every book, went
to every yoga class. UM, finally found out I had
a parasite and finally went to a naturopathic doctor. Was
like better in two days, and so that's when I
kind of really dove into the health and on this side.
What was the parasite? I went to the Dominican Republic,
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and it came back and didn't feel great, and everyone
thought it was everything else and it wasn't. And so
I was on all this medication and like for months,
was just like so we couldn't need anything, couldn't sleep.
Had they didn't know that I had. Doctors told me
it didn't exist. So you have you had a parasite
from the water, from the food. I'm assuming something. I
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am something like that. And so even when you told them, hey,
I went to all these places, they still were like, NA,
you're crazy. Yeah, they literally go They literally told me
to go see a psychiatrist. So then you go to
what kind of doctors? Say it was? UM? So I
went to multiple doctors, natural a path what is it?
So they use um more like from the earth kind
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of things rather than like, oh here's a pill, poppet,
see what happens. But they knew you had a parasite.
So I told them all my symptoms and they were like, yeah,
absolutely have a parasite. And I was like I did.
I've done so much research and I know that's what
I have. And the doctor I was saying at the
time was like, yeah, those don't exist. Um. It shouldn't
be giving you any of these symptoms. It's just in
your head. And so she gave me this cleanse that
I literally put under my tongue for three days and
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I was better. Wow. Yeah, what can you know? They
tell you what kind of parentside it was? They did it,
but they did. I just forgot. That's crazy. Yeah, it's
a better journey. That's you're working on a new album?
Is this EP going to be part of the album?
Z E P? Something completely different? So, with UM with
the EP and having so long to think about it,
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the whole idea of Love Kylie is because I feel
like each song is from me to the listener, like
it's either a part of my life for someone else's life,
or a journey, a chapter, something like that that's happened
throughout the decade I've been working on this thing, and
so with it being Love Kylie, it's like kind of like,
this is what I've been working on. This is my
gift to you, Like, I hope you relate to this
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kind of thing. And so my hope is to UM,
whether it's an EP or a full length album, do
a whole new batch of songs, and then I don't
I haven't told anyone this, but I want to call
it PS. So it's like all the things that I
didn't get to say on the Love Kylie album and
really go back to like the subject matters that people
want to hear about, and that's why I want, like,
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I don't want a whole album of love songs or
whole album of breakup songs, like I want it to
be so versatile and that way, whether you're a country
music fan or not, you have a song on the record.
Here is track three of Love Kylie. This is called
Outdoor Voices. Can use area to live. You want to
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keep it down, keep it down, keep it down, but
keeping oh he he Which one is the single ish thing?
So my vote has been I only date cowboys because, um,
that was the very first time I ever released a
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song online before I had released it on Spotify or
Apple or anything like that, and got so much love
from it. Um, every time I posted a video it
would go viral and I just had so many people
being like, when is this out? When is this out?
And that was the first time I was like, oh
my gosh, Like without its just me and my guitar
are playing this song over and over posting different videos
and getting the same reaction, and so UM I actually
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got the idea of wanting a song like that on
the album because I went to UM. I was on
radio tour and I went to some random bar and
everyone was doing their own thing and their own conversations,
and then out of nowhere, a Lizzo song came on
and everyone stopped what they were doing and just together
was go just like screamed w guy tell I gotta
the right. And that's immediately when I was like, I
want a song like that, Like I want to be
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able to stop people in the tracks when they and
all the girls just freaked out about it. And so
I actually got this text the other day or is
a message on Instagram and this guy said I was
I was at this bar and blah blah blah, and
your your Cowboys song came on and all the girls
in the bar just freaked out, and I was like, yes,
Mr Goblins, I did it. Here's a clip of break
Things this track four stall, so don't hand me your
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Here is track five cheating on you? What is cheating
on you? Even? We like your next and why does
it sel like a hotel? And there's a scene, and
here is the final track, Mad I Need You. You
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write always looking at the songwriter creditor. You write every
one of them, So how important was it to you
to write them all? It was very important to me
because I feel like, having ten years to write this record,
it's like choosing between your children to figure out what
song you want on it. And that's when it came
down to actually making it an easier choice of what
songs we wanted, because I wanted it to be so versatile.
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So that's why there's only really one sad breakup song,
one love song, one like you know. So that way
it was like easier for me to choose between my children.
But with me like writing these songs and me being
so like open with my life, I want people to like.
For instance, cheating on You is about the negative part
of a relationship, about the valley that we will all
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go through at some point in our relationship. For instance,
Jay and I happen together for six years, it's not
always been sunshine and rainbows, and so that leads into
mad I Need You, which is like a wall that
I had to break down of like realizing that I
can also be an independent woman and also need somebody
and not I feel like it's a burden rather to
rely on someone, but it's actually a good thing, and
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so it kind of is like just one of those
things that's a story that continues to be told. And
that's why I am so excited to release more music
because it's just going to be more layers to feel back. Well,
that's awesome, it's really been great to meet you. You
you put out the record. It's killing. We're playing it,
you know. I'm sure they're gonna come with some attack strategy. Yeah, yeah, everything. Well, congratulations,
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thank you so much, and thank you so much for
having me. This is a bucket list check for sure. Well,
this can be the first half of it. The second
half is getting on the big show of performing, you know,
just tapping into the water and then I'll jump in.
You're like ankle deep at the beach, like ankle deep
at the lake, that ankle deep at the lake. But no,
that's been great. It's been great. And you guys can
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follow Kylie at Kylie Morgan Music, which apparently you retweet
everybody or repost everybody who tags you, you tigger, She'll
repost us at Kylie Morgan Music. You guts check out
Love Kylie. Kylie has been great talking with you. Thank
you so much.
Welcome episode three oh two. It's a nice sunshiny day
here on early Friday morning, and we do this on
Friday because all the new music comes out on Friday,
so we'll play some new songs in a second. Also,
Kylie Morgan, she came over to the studio. We talked
about moving from a small town in Oklahoma to be
an artist here in Nashville, getting proposed to during a show,
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releasing her debut project. So hang out a few minutes,
but let's go new music Day number five. Blanco Brown
has a new song called Nobody's More Country for California
Middle see one thing loves the country more than me.
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That's very good fun. Uh this is all you know
the new releases that I'm most excited about today. At
number four, Lauren Elena released a new song called if
the World was a small town, If the world was
a small town, A settle for the way you want
to settled down boy, and a suck So go out
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with it all man, If friend, baby baby, we would
have made it before if the world was a smart town.
At number three, Brandon Ray has a new song I'll
called a family album. Before you know it will be
running out of pages for years and county. So what
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do you say, baby? I think a family have At
number two, pretty cool collaboration here, Shy Carter call Swindell
and David Lee Murphy released a song called beer with
my Friends, but I feel better with my brain time
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with two weeks talk about with that fools see big game,
then stop seeing us coloring me on Lane, We're gonna
get that Old working Boys and the number one song
this week. And Chris Lane talked about this on a
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Bobby cast about two episodes, how he wrote a song
for a son who wasn't born yet. Well at the
dun now he's born. It's called I Ain't even met
you yet? Here you go. I feel ready put out
feels here. I love you and I ain't even met you.
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I wonder what your first words be. I wonder if
you look like I would encourage you guys to go
back a couple of episodes and listen to that. With Chris,
it was right before he had his baby. I mean
like three days. Yeah, it was like any day it
could come, and any day it did. So those are
the top five releases that I'm most excited about this week.
Let's go to some news John Party is on vocal rest.
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That means absolutely no talking and no singing. The rest
of his shows this month will be rescheduled. John talks
a lot, which is gonna be very difficult for him,
but I do know he is being extremely vigilant about
not talking. The thing is, I mean, imagine this, You're
not being able to work for a year and a
half because of COVID and it's like, okay, let's go
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time to go back to work, and everybody's super excited,
and it turns out you can't because something's up with
your throat. That sucks. Yeah, I mean there are a
lot of things. It's like that's one of them. So
he has to go on vocal rest. Hopefully the time
they gave him will be the time it takes to
get normal, and it's not an extension. I don't think
it will be. I hope it's not going to be.
But I've just seen you know, Jimmy Westbrook from Little
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Big Town, you know he or when they were out
for a bit Keith Urban for a while. Most vocalists
at some point have to do this, especially if they
weren't trained how to be a vocal like John. I
don't know, everyone to training. He started singing, it was
good at it and got better at it. So I
don't know that he uses his voice in a way
that someone who's a trained singer does. But he also
sings like someone who's not a trained singer, you know,
So anybody hope he gets better. How is he communicating?
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Do you have like a dry erase board? You know?
Hand signals writing just like anyone like you would if
you didn't, if you weren't able to talk anymore. Kurt
Cobain's Doodle self portrait sells for two hundred and eighty
one thousand dollars. A collector just shelled out more than
two dollars for a piece of Kurt Cobain's history, a
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self portrait character called Kurt Cobain rock Star, but the
C in Cobain is k and Cobain was auctioned off
and sold. He signed the drawing on the left side
and on the right side of the picture he wrote,
I don't know how to play and I don't give
a hoot. Pretty cool. It's like it's expensive. I bet
you though, that ends up being worth a lot more
(04:55):
than that. Yeah, for sure, in five ten years I
could see that being one of the those things where
it's like and they got a deal at one thousand dollars.
Janne Kramer has sold her wedding ring to pay for
home renovations. What have you seen her husband at all
on Instagram? Well, not a X yet, but the person
she's so X. Yeah, she told that ring to make
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house renovations. Brooks and Dunn announced their reboot tour be
a pretty good show. Travis Trip will open and so
will Lvie Shane. That tour starts September two in Indianapolis, Indiana,
and goes and tell septemb in Dallas, Texas. They can
still play and singing. Man. I saw him in Vegas
right before pandemic and right before that, Ronnie and Kicks
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came and played with us the raging idiots at are
Ryman Show. And there they can still play. I mean,
Ronnie came to rehearsal with the band and just saying
to make sure that you know, I don't know if
we could keep up or he could keep up one
of the two. Probably if we could keep up. Isn't
he sick to day of the Ryman Show a little bit? Yeah?
But he sounded amazing, great line up for Heart Radio
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Music Festival has been announced. Billie Eilish, Cheap Trick, Coldplay, Due, Lapa, Florida, Georgia, Line, Journey, Collead,
Little Baby, Maroon Five, Nellie, Sam Hunt and Wheezer. You
know the daytime stage. I was a little shocked to
see Olivia Rodrigo. I thought the same thing. It's gonna
be so packed and crazy for that. And usually if
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someone big does the daytime stage will also put them
on the big stage. I'm surprised she's not on the
Maybe she'll make an appearance, but I feel like she
asked you she's as big as you can get right now.
Like she's bigger. She'll draw more of a crowd than
Nelly called and there's a there's a real people. But
right now she's as hot as it gets, as far
as in the pop world. Uh so, uh Olivia Rodrigo, Sweedie,
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All Time Low, Well there's going huh all Time Low.
It kind of got like a revamp in their career.
Golden Russell, Dickerson, Gabby Barrett, Tate McCarey, a Conan Gray
and Addison Ray. Uh. I mean, Assen Ray is a
big one too, but her music care has just started.
She's a big you know social media TikTok, Yeah, TikToker.
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Garth Brooks announces Nashville Stadium show that'll be July thirty one.
It will be Garth's first time playing that stadium. Tickets
going and sell June. They'll sell out in a second
two seconds. Brett Eldridge is announced dates. It was a
Good Day Towards kicks off September six in Cleveland, Ohio,
runs an early November. Morgan Evans is the opener. You
want the date, it's go to Brett Eldridge dot com.
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And Lauren Atlanta is going to be in a movie
called Roadhouse Romance on the Hallmark Channel, a debut September eleven.
So that's what's up in music. Appreciate you guys listening
to the podcast, and I hope you like to interview
with Kylie Morgan. Enjoy all right in studio with Kylie Morrigan,
which I think the first time that I knew of
you is Walker Hayes had posted maybe you performing at
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something and Walker on our buds and he was like,
hey she's I hit her up. I was like, hey,
she's a good He was like, yeah, she's good. And
you had a song I called cuss a little right right, Oh,
this is very correct. What do you remember? Because and
here's why you're here. And I saw you put a
trep and I've been looking for a reason. I've been
playing your song on Women by Her Country, a little
bit different stuff. And so when you put the record
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and I was like, let me, let's get around on it.
It feels like I know you, but I don't really
know you. Get So, what do you remember? Because it's
been a couple of years. I think it has so um,
it's so funny. I remember getting a call from my
grandfather's wife and she was like, oh my gosh, Kylie,
Bobby Bones is playing your song. I'm freaking out him
in the car. You don't know this, but I've been ribbing.
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I've been writing Bobby Bones for months, telling him about you.
And I was like, yeah, it's all because of you.
I think that's exactly what happened. I love that. So
you say that again? Who was it? So it's my
grandfather's wife and she's been writing me for she apparently
she's been writing you for months, telling letters. I guess letters.
I have no idea, but I think it was maybe
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her manifestation mixed with um Walker and I his relationship
all aligning finally, so let's just go with her manifestation
because I like that, and so yeah, and then that
was kind of how I knew because again we played
cuss a little in the women in Buy Our Country? Right, Yes,
how long ago is that? Well, what's funny is when
you first played it, it was just a demo of
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me and my acoustic guitar that I put one bart
before I went out on tour with Walker. So we
needed like something that proved that I existed online. So
I just put like me and my guitar, um just
like a few original songs. And then you played that
one on the air, and then I finally signed my
deal with Universal, and flash forward three years later, then
the actual track finally comes out and I'm like, finally
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I can actually show people that it exists. I didn't
know that that wasn't the like full, you know, mature song.
I don't know. That was just a guitar, just me
and a guitar, Like do we have a little bit
of that? Yeah, here you go, people, Batcher watch my Body,
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and that's not on the new record, And we'll get
to the new record in a second. You did you
write that with Walker too, or did you? Yes? So, um,
what's crazy? Walker? And I wrote that when I was
nineteen twenty five now, and that's what's so cool about
it is the fact that I wrote it with him
so many years ago, and people are just hearing it
for the first time within the past year. And so
it's been like one of those things. I've been playing
it in my live show for years and everyone's like,
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what is that song coming out? I'm final, like one day,
one day, and I'm like, that day's here. Finally you
didn't put on the new record, though, I am all
right right, So with putting a single out with it,
we already had a song called break Things Out and
then my last single, shut Out, and so I wanted
to make sure that there was room for new music
and room for new songs, and so with the singles
already out, I'm like, well, that already has its own
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life out there, and now I want to introduce people
to some new music. So I agree, Yeah, you had
more space to put more songs. Yeah, exactly here should
It'll be featured on The Women of by Her count
three on the weekend of June, which I've already scheduled
that to go down. Here you go, lady, could Shane,
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couldn't I ever been a goodistat old? When I'm couldn't
I never been a goodist? Saint? When I'm so, I
see that you wrote that with Shane mcinally and also
Ben Johnson. How how do you get a right with Shane?
Is it because you write it smack and you kind
of first in line? So the story of Shane and
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I is pretty amazing, and I'll condense it a little bit,
but long story short, I moved to Nashville with my
very first publishing deal, um more of a smaller company
at nineteen and so since I moved here with a
deal already, I never met with any publishers or anything
like that. And so, um, after I was kind of
ready to kind of move on from that, I was
wanting to meet with publishers. And before I could even
do that, I got a call from Robin Palmer, which
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is a huge part of Shane's story as well, how
he got his first cut with Kenny Chesney. And I'll
never forget this voicemail, and it was saying like, Hi,
this is Robin Palmer from Smack. Um, so I've never
heard of you before, and I want to so call
me back. And so I met with her and uh
Lee Crab which is another song plugger at Smack, and
I just fell in love with the family and of
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the whole idea of Smack. And so I met Shane
actually at the Bluebird Cafe when he came to see
me perform, and it was like one of the very
first times playing the Bluebird, and so it was a
very surreal moment. He sat down and he was like,
I'm Shane, and I'm like, I'm very aware, I know
who you are. And so um, once that happened, he
kind of just adopted me and we became very close
friends and co writers and now he's my producer as well.
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So he's doing it all, all of it well, which
is common for Shane to do it all very much.
So what is your story about getting to Nashville. You
grew up in Oklahoma the whole time A zero to
win and when did you move out here? So zero
to nineteen. Um, I started going back and forth to
Nashville at fifteen. Long story short, I got my very
first little pink guitar when I was twelve years old
from my grandfather, and I just fell in love with it.
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I started writing songs on it, and I just knew
that's what I was supposed to do. So I told
my mom at twelve that I was skipping college and
I was moving to Nashville to be a country music artist.
Who taught you how to play chords at twelve? So
I looked up, originally online kind of self taught, and
then I actually had a guitar teacher try and teach
me theory and I was like, absolutely not, I don't
want I just want to learn how to play stay
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By Sugarland. And so I found this guy to teach
me just the chords to the country songs I've been
listening to. And that's when I was like, oh, I
can not only write my own songs, but I can
play other people's songs. And then I just knew that's
what I was supposed to do. So, you're learning on
that pink guitar at twelve, fourteen, fifteen years old? Are
you playing anywhere like in school, around school to to
get better? So I really just like dove in and
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started touring everywhere. Um at fifteen, when I started coming
to Nashville for the first time, I ended up getting
in rooms that I should not have been in. But
thank god, I have this guy who pretty much just
took me under his wing. His name for Rust Abbotson,
and he's such a huge part of my story. And
he put me in a room with Walker Hayes at fifteen,
which what I couldn't believe that. And so I got
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to write with such heavy hitters as such a young age,
and learned so quickly. And so I started touring heavily,
going back and forth to Nashville. Ended up stopping UH
public school and switching to online school so that way
I could just do it all the time and not
have to worry about it, and then graduated early. Immediately
wanted to get all my ducks in rows. Saved all
the money I had, and bought a house in Hermitage, Tennessee,
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and came out here at nineteen and I haven't looked
back since. So when you move out here at nineteen,
what is that like? I mean, you don't have any
friends here yet? Or did you have a few of
you had made through coming back and forth. Thankfully, I
made quite a few friends going back and forth. But
I also, um, my grandfather's from Chattanooga, Tennessee, so I
had family kind of near and so I definitely had
like a system where like I felt like someone I
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could call someone if something happened. But thankfully with russ
Um and his wife the niece and then introducing me
to so many people, I feel like I immediately had
family out here. You have roommates in nineteen at the house, Yeah,
I still I still have a roommate, thank god, because
she watches my dogs and I need someone for that.
Specifically where your roommates then in music? No, so um,
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Originally my first roommate was I went to high school
with her, and then UM, I actually got her a
job at the publishing company that I was at at
the time, and then um, she kind of moved on
and ended up moving back to Oklahoma, and then UM,
I got a new roommate, and since then we have
not had anyone in the music industry, and we like
to keep it that way. Well, if you want someone
to watch your dogs, you need to be someone on
the music industry, because I mean, you're staying in town.
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Our situation too, So what what's your town in Oklahoma,
Like it is very small Newcastle. So it's like one
of those where if I would have stayed and graduated
with the people in my high school, I would have
graduated with probably fifty people. Um. Yeah, So like everyone
knows everybody, everyone knows everyone's business. And I think that's
why when I came to Nashville for the first time,
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I was always just in a different headspace than everyone
in my hometown, and so when I came out here
for the first time, I was like, oh my gosh,
everyone is just as weird as I am. This is awesome,
And so I felt immediately at home. What about you
wanted to do music? Why? What was it about it
that you're like, Okay, I'm a kid Because me, I
was five, I knew what I wanted to do, but
nobody else did, and it was weird to me that
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people didn't know what they wanted to do. Same I
grew up going how do you not? Like I knew
I wanted to be on the radio on TV and
be a comedian. Never didn't know. But what about it? Like,
when did it hit you? What was it that first
guitar was watching someone on TV where you said, dang,
I have to do this and nothing else is acceptable.
So I stayed um a lot at my grandma's house
when my mom and dad would run errands, would work,
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and so um, I actually fell in love with all
of my mom's old Shirley Temple VHS tapes. So I
watched her every single song she did. I'm gonna arize
every single dance move I memorized. I would run in
my dress up. That's the old old school. Oh yeah.
And I was like, well, she's three four years old.
If she's doing it, why can't I do it? And
so that's when the first thought in my head that
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I was like, this is what I want to do,
This is what I want to be, And there was
just no other option for me. Should say as you
were you allowed kid? Were you you know it's someone
that wanted attention? Yes, I was very much. Yes, I
have a little sister and an older sister. Um, but
I was a very much like putting on shows in
the living room, watch me, watch me, watch me kind
of kid. At what point in your life did you
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realize you actually had the talent to sing? So, I
will be honest, I remember my mom being like, maybe
she'll get better like around the tenner eleven. And then, um,
it really clicked when I started learning guitar because like
the whole like just like chords to pitch to melodies
to lyrics. That's when it all kind of came together
and the stars aligned. And then my mom was like, oh,
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maybe she could actually do this. And what did your
mom say when you wanted to start going back and
forth to Nashville as a teenager. Thank God, my mom
became a fast manager very quickly. She toured with me
up until I was nineteen years old and was very
happy to pass over for the management duties to smack
as well. And so um, she was really just like
by my side the whole time and knew how serious
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I was about it and saw how I was doing
it because she was right there. And so that's when she,
thankfully um made that her full time job, which was me.
And that's the reason I honestly i'm here today because
of her. I'm gonna play track two. I only date cowboys. Yeah,
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training time. I did see on your Instagram that you
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just got engaged to yes in the last week, right, yeah,
last week actually, And it's a it's a guy named
Jay Allen. And we actually wrote. Yeah, we wrote that
song together and it was funny enough. I was in
Oklahoma City this weekend playing with the okay See Philharmonic
and heard that song on the radio for the first
time when he played it for the Heart Woman of Country.
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So I was getting my hair done and I was
just like listening and like bouncing up and down. It
was very exciting. So you wrote this song with him?
Were you together with him when you wrote the song? Yeah?
So we've been actually together for six years since you
moved here and got a house, literally moved at nineteen,
little Baby, and he and I met and it was
like no looking back. It was just like two thieves
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in the night. And he pretty much thank god he
was here because he just showed me Nashville. He showed
me the music industry, showed me how to do it,
and so UM he has been by my side throughout.
We've actually been able to rise up together, both as
rising artists, and it's been the most amazing thing because
he just gets it. Is he an artist too? Yes?
Is he a country artist? Country artist? Yes? And so
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what's his deal? So he signed with Verge Records and
UM is actually about to put his debut EP out
this fall, So we're kind of like neck and neck
and releasing things and it always ends up this way,
even though we have different managements, different labels, and it's
been fun to be able to rise up separately but
also be together. And how did he propose? So? Um,
I started going to Whiskey Jam when I first moved
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to Nashville, and of course just wanted to meet people,
wanted to see the live music, wanted to meet everybody,
and so um, I would call him all the time
to meet me out in Midtown and we would go
to Whiskey Jam together, and so um, it was a
pretty full circle moment. He played Whiskey Jam last week
and then brought me up on stage. We sang a
song that we wrote together, and then he sang a
song that he wrote for me that will be on
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his debut EP. And then got downe on money and
asked on the Whiskey Jam stage and did you know
it was coming? I had a feeling because my mom
was really persistent about me getting my nails done, and
I was like, Mom, I really don't care to get
my nails done. What's the sitch? Yeah, A little bit,
that's that's not fun, But I think it's it's a
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fine line to walk because I just had to do
this with We've been engaged now for like eight or
nine months or so. We're getting maried the next few months.
But I had to make sure her nails were done.
But I also didn't want her to know that she
was getting your nails done for a reason. So how
did how did you propose? Well, so we have a
barn like you drove in the front here back behind
the basketball court back there, there's a barn and we
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had been working on just kind of rebuilding because it's
an extremely old barn. Once once it was used for
horses on this property, but we don't have any horses here,
and so we have been kind of going through going, hey,
if we ever gonna kind of rebuild this thing, what
would we do? And so I had hired someone to
come out and do some work, to look at it
and to kind of show us some plans of what
we would do. And I'm extremely color blind, and really yeah,
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I just can't see it all. My right eye doesn't
work in colorblind And so it was we're looking at
paint to paint, and I purposely set all this up,
like this part of it weeks ahead. Really, yes, I'm
so nervous that she was going to find out. But
I said, hey, we have to go match this paint.
I told her we had dinner with two of our
friends in a nice place, so I knew she would
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be nicely dressed that and so but we had been
off shooting my TV show and we can't. We flew
in and no one could be working on it until
we got in the house. They had like thirty minutes
where they could rush in to the barn, set everything
up that I had planned set up. I had a
friend that that helped me as well, this is giving
me anxiety. So once they're done, I got a text
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that's like the text was like, hey, the show is
gonna be good on Tuesday. Something some real, you know,
odd thing that she could never figure out what it
was in case she saw my phone, and so I
was like, okay, cool, And so we walked back to
the back the show is going to be good ones
and I was like, I said, I got her back
there because like, I can't tell this paint color. I
can't tell if it's the right one. I don't even
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know if it's red or dark blue, and I was like,
just come with me real quick. She was annoyed a
little bit because she has she's in hells. He's walking
into the backyard and she's like, can we gonna do
this tomorrow? And men like nice shoes, and I'm like,
just come back to the back And we opened it
and the whole barn had been rebuilt with lights and
flowers and trees and you know, hippos, the whole thing.
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And so she shocked, She's out of her mind shocked.
I proposed, and then I said, hey, come with me.
And so we walked and there's this this hill. We
have a pool right here, and there's a hill that
goes down. We walk up the hill and she hears
like our song And so I don't know if you
know Matt Carney is the artist. Matt Corney has a
song called Nothing Left to Lose. It was a massive
hit ten years ago. But we went to one of
the show when we first started dating, and she said
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when he was playing that song, She's like, oh, that's
when I knew that I loved you. And so so
his song was playing and she was like, oh, but
he walked up the hill and it wasn't a song playing.
I had him come and play. Oh my gosh, when
you have connects, that's the best time to use. So
he was playing on this little stage on top, and
then we danced and and then it was all good.
It was like to that, everybody, it's good, it's all
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my It was definitely good. The best part Washy, she
never found out. That's so incredible that that makes it
twenty times better. It was the best. Yeah, I just
But back to the nails thing I was. I had
a friend that had two weeks prior had said, hey,
she needed to get her nails done. She's going to
somebody knew, and she was nervous about it, and so
she wanted Caitlin to go with her, and so I
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even had that set up. But luckily that she never
found out and it worked, and thank god she said, yes,
nailed it. No pun intendon and then nailed it. When
had you you hadn't seen the ring no, So that
was a huge surprise of me. I didn't know how
he was going to do it. When he was going
to do it, I kind of like realized, I'm like, oh,
my whole family is here for two days every like
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and he got my dad away from his collision repair
body shops. So I was like, there has to be
something happening. Well, what he like kind of set it
up as was he was like, Oh, I'm releasing my
record this week and we're doing a big release party
and I want your dad there and what your mom
that word? Yeah? So I was like, okay, yeah, I
get it. And then um, and then we were facetiving
my best friend and we had been drinking a little bit.
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This was like two weeks prior, and I was like, Lauren,
you should come because um, we're doing three shows that week.
My family is going to be here. And he was like, yeah,
I'm planning something really special. I was like, oh no,
and then Lauren was like oh no. And so I
didn't know how it was happening, what the ring looked like,
any details, but I kind of had a little bit
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of an idea. So would you have rather when it
picked the ring out yourself or be surprised with the
ring and really not had a choice. I am so
strategic on every single part in my life, and there's
a very few things that I wouldn't want to choose
or that I'm indecisive about. One is nail color. I
will sit in front of nail like colors for forty
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five minutes and I will choose it like five different times,
and I feel like it would have been the same
thing with the ring. And he has such good taste actually,
and so I actually was so happy that he just
did it and I didn't have to worry about and
it's beautiful and I love it's perfect. So so let
me see, dang, what's that cut called? So he keeps
saying over and over, he was like, this was the
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Kylie Diamond. It was perfect. It was exactly what I
would envision for you. And it's a pair cut. So
it's like, yes, I knew nothing about cut. I knew nothing,
I had anything until I went in and had to
pick out a ring. Oh yeah, it's it's a thing.
I didn't Honestly, I didn't know anything about anything either.
I've just seen a few photos on Pinterest and I
was like, any about you know, roundabout when you guys
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want to get married, So we know we want to
get married in Fort Myers Beach because we went there
for the Songwriters Festival not too long ago. Probably I
guess I was too long. A was it was like
four years ago. I fell in love with the people,
fell in love with just the islands, the beach, and
so every time we go back there. We now have
like pretty much family there. They call us the country kids.
We come there for Easter every year. So I'm such
a beach person and so I know I want to
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do it there, but um, we have no idea on
anything other than that I love the beach. I just
can't get into it. Are we having our first fight?
Maybe I just don't. And I'm sure for our honeymoon
we're going to go to a beach or something. She
loves the beach. Are you a mountain person? Are you
a studio person? Yeah? I just for me, the beach
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is a lot of sitting in the sun on the sand.
Oh see, I'm like, huh, I think I'm maybe more
of a lake person. And I would credit that, but
then you're the same. I would credit that to growing
up in Arkansas, we had no no ocean, but you
didn't either, See. I think it was like the opposite
for me since we didn't have an ocean. We grew
up on a lake, and I was like, this is great.
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But the first time I went to l a and
saw the ocean. I was like, oh, this is like
the definition of God on Earth. And I just loved
it so much. So I feel like you can't go
and you can't really wake board or wake skate on
the ocean. The waves are too big, always a little
snot noose, kids running around. Maybe you just haven't been
to the right beach. I don't think there is a
right beach. I've been to some cool beaches. Mike, take
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him to the right beach. I just sawa, get out there,
and I'm like, well, now what? And you can't really
look at your phone because the son's blaring down. That's good,
that's good. The water, what do you mean? Put your
feet and it's fun. It's fun. For like a second,
I'd rather take a bath and go to the beach.
When it comes to water, I just have Maybe I
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haven't found but Caitlin loves the beach. I'm sure that's
what we're gonna do. So where where is she like
loving to go on vacation? Like, where is she like
if she could pick up a certain beach. Funny you ask,
because we didn't get to go on vacation last year
because the pandemic we've been together about a year and
seven eight months something like that. We really haven't been.
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We went to some islands somewhere down below Florida. There's
some islands. Know we went to, Uh do you remember where?
I can't remember. It seems really Virgin Islands. We went
to the Virgin Islands. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm not good
all that stuff. So have you paid the destination for
your honeymoon yet? We have? We have? We have. I'm
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not going to say we're quite yet because yes, yes,
well I'm sure you'll wind up at a beach. I'm
sure we will do so. As a kid, you are
a competitive gymnast, yes, so I feel like that's where
I honestly really got the self disciplined part about being
an artist. Um. You know, at the end of the day,
you can be talented, you can be X, Y and Z,
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you can be unique. But like the truth is, I
feel like you just got to outwork everybody, and I
feel like I will. I promised myself I would always
do that. Um, And I think I got a lot
of that from being a gymnast, just because it's not
a hobby. It's like a five days a week through
and a half hours a day kind of thing lifestyle.
And so when I channeled that energy into the country
music genre, at the end of the day, I was like,
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am I going to the Olympics? No, like not going
to happen. Oh how about I just be a female
country music artist. Turns out that's just as hard. So
I kind of picked the second of this thing. But
I knew that, like from the beginning, that I wanted
to do something that impacted people, and with songwriting, I
feel like that's kind of the key for me. What's
the tattoo? This is the day I moved to Nashville. Yes,
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so um. Honestly, this was like such an important day
for me, like the day I became an adult, the
first time I like chose what was in my pantry,
the first time I didn't have to ask permission to
go x Y and Z and so um, it kind
of became a very important day for me. And Nashville
is my my happy place. Have you been able to
meet any of your heroes while being here? I have.
I've been very lucky to um meet so many people
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that I've looked up to. And you know what's crazy
is they say, don't meet your heroes, but they don't
know the country music genre either, because every person that
I've ever met, that I've looked up to has truly
been the best. And I just feel like, again, like
that's why I love country music is because of that
reason right there. It's like just good people, good roots,
and good music. And so especially like when I this
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past year before the pandemic, I was chosen for this
CIMA Kickstart program and I was able to present a
show or present an award at the pre show for
the c m A Awards. So I got to meet
so many people backstage and I was just like trying
not to fan girl, but like while trying to be cool,
you know, And after meeting everyone, I was just like, Yep,
this is this is my happy place. This is the
home because everyone's just so genuine. Who is your mount Rushmore.
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It's four people of the coolest people you've met and
the cool people you want to meet. So let's do
the ones you've met for once I've met, let's see um.
Number one would be Dirk Spentley. He is just like
the most kindest human and will recite when you last
like interacted, like he's just so good about that. Um,
and especially with like him and his songs, like in
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his live music and his life show. It just makes
me so happy every time I see him. So he's
number one. Um. Number two I would say is kit More.
I went out on tour with him not too long
ago and he just treated me so amazing and like
took a chance on me when he could have picked
so many other artists to take out with him. Um,
and I really owe a lot to him for that.
H Third would be Walker Hey is of course, um
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he has been like my big brother since literally a child.
And then UM, fourth, I would say, this one's a
hard one because I have about seven people that I
want to choose, But I would say Reba. I met
her backstage when I did the CRS of It for
Universal last year at the Rieman. I guess it was
two years ago, and Um, that was the moment I
was just like, I don't even I blacked out. I
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don't remember what I said, but all I knowed she
was amazing and her being from Oklahoma too, I was
just like, Yes, this is everything I've ever dreamed of.
So on the other side of it, if you had
to pick four, you haven't met yet. That you want
to meet. Who would you put up there? Um, I
would say I have not met Miranda Lambert, but I
feel like we'd be friends. She just seems so cool
and such a like just like chill chick, and I
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feel like we'd get along so well. UM love her.
I feel like, UM, I would just love to pick
Taylor Swift's brain on everything. I just have so much
respect for her for all the things that she's built
at such a young age and me starting so young.
I look up to her so much for that. Um,
Shania Twain would definitely be top. She is like one
of the people that I've always looked to as far
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as like if I could have a career like anyone,
it would be like Shania. And then four I would say, Man,
this one's hard. Four I would say, I haven't met him,
but I have heard such good things about him as
Garth Brooks. He's also from Oklahoma, and I've never heard
anyone say negative thing about him. And I respect people
like that so much who are to that caliber and
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I still remain the same human. Yeah, you picked four
good ones. If you'd have picked one that wasn't I good,
I'd probably wins. I would have not said anything on
the MinC but I went like this, you would have
made a face. Sometimes people are like, I'll just make
up a name, Jersey John. People can be like, man,
I just can't wait to meet Jersey John. And I'm like,
in real life, I'm like, oh my god, John's the
biggest due. You don't want to know those are good
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ones and there's no Jersey John. So anybody named John.
I just that's just something I came up with. That's
not on you. You just released your EP. What's a
release day like for you? What was it like? Man,
I would just have so many words for this because
it's been honestly over a decade in the making. I
started this journey at twelve and started picturing my debut
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release forever. And I always joked about, you know, people
little girls would be planning their wedding their whole life,
and like I was planning my release and just like
what songs I would choose, and how the like, how
the would what order they would be in, and you
know what the subject matter would be. And what was
so cool about it is since I had so long
to plan for it, it was like the first time
in my life that I just felt so confident in something.
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Um As an artist, you obviously you just all I mean,
you know, you always question yourself. Am I doing this right?
Is this person going to like it? Well? These people
like it? And this was the first time that I
did something for me that I trusted in and that
I knew was a part of the plan. And I
felt like it was really the next stepping stone that
I've been waiting for for so long. And each song
I really felt like was a part of my story
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and I really feel like other people could relate to
as well. And so with debuting the EP, I just
like had so much confidence and so much love for
the project that I feel like I reciprocated that. And
it was just such a magical day. A lot of
interviews with little places, big places, blogs, is this nonstopp
was But I it's my favorite thing to do. I
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love to talk to people, first of all. I love
to meet new people. And being able to just like
continue to build the story and continue to like get
the word out is just like my favorite thing to
do because at the end of the day, all I
want to do is write songs and I want people
to connect to those songs and turn to those songs.
But if I don't do things like this right here,
no one would ever hear those songs. So that's why
I'm like so appreciative and like things like this, is
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because without these things, people would have never even heard
of me. They would just stay in my room and
my guitar. You are talking about connecting a lot. Are you?
Are you yoga? Do do yoga? Or do you teach
yoga something? Do? Yes? What? What? How did that come about?
So being a gymnast for ten years, UM, moving to Nashville,
I really just missed the kind of like reason for movement.
I was like, why am I just going to the
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gym to go the gym? Like this is really not
entertaining to me, And so I went to my first
yoga class. UM. Coming from Oklahoma, there was not anything
like that there, and so going and moving to Nashville,
there was so many new things to try and so
many new things to do. So I went to my
first yoga class and just fell in love with the
whole like idea of that. It was like a mind
body connection reason for movement, and me being a type
(36:28):
a personality, I dove head first. I was like, oh,
now I want to be a teacher because I just
can't do anything as a hobby, you know exactly, And
so um, I actually got my teacher certification out in
San Diego. UM, spent two weeks out there and started teaching,
fell in love with it, and now I love like
merging the two audiences of like the yoga crowd with
the country music crowd, because it's two completely different crowds usually,
(36:50):
and so to be able to kind of merge those
things together and meet people over here, meet people over there,
introduced people together, it's been pretty cool. Do you teach
a class where you play music? So during quarantine, when
none of us could do anything, I decided to do
a Nama stay at home series, So I would teach
a yoga flow and then most of the times in
the time I would sing at during shavasana, which is
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like where you close your eyes at the end and
everyone's perfect, perfect time for listening. So I was like, oh,
why not play a song? So um, yeah, that's been
my favorite too, to kind of incorporate both together. But
during that time that was kind of the only thing
I could do, and so I was really lucky to
be able to do that as well. And then I
also partnered with like, for instance, the Ryan Seacrest Corporation,
where all the kids over there I got to teach
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them at yoga class and and um I also got
to do some things with St. Jude and so it's
been really cool to kind of like sprinkle that around
my country music peeps. Do you want to teach classes
here at all? Would you? So I'm actually no, no
time at all, um, But I'm actually trying to plan
a very first festival this fall where I mix health
(37:56):
and Woe's Festival with the music festival. So I'm working
with a company right now. It's very baby stages, but um,
I want to make like a health festival during the
day and it transitioned into a giant music festival at night.
So it's pretty much like wond Er Less meets Stagecoach
and so it's going to be like this big festival
where I get artists that I love to come play.
I also get like people and vendors in town that
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I've met through my yoga kind of things that I've
been doing, and get everybody together and just throw one
big party. Do you have any injuries from when you
were a gymnast I had. UM, I had a sprained
ankle that bothered me for years, and I'll never forget what.
I did a split jump on the beam once and
landed on my tailbone and that was the worst pain
in my entire life. And the sucky part is is
(38:38):
you can't fix it with anything. You just have to
like be So sat on a doughnut forever and just
waited for it to heal. UM thankfully was able to
kind of rehab that as well as the ankle through yoga,
and UM that's actually how I found yoga. I was
really sick for a long time a few years ago,
and UM, no one could tell me what was wrong
with me. And that's when I really dove into health
(39:00):
and illness because I was like, well, I'm just going
to figure out what's wrong with me and myself. So
I listened to like every podcast, read every book, went
to every yoga class. UM, finally found out I had
a parasite and finally went to a naturopathic doctor. Was
like better in two days, and so that's when I
kind of really dove into the health and on this side.
What was the parasite? I went to the Dominican Republic,
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and it came back and didn't feel great, and everyone
thought it was everything else and it wasn't. And so
I was on all this medication and like for months,
was just like so we couldn't need anything, couldn't sleep.
Had they didn't know that I had. Doctors told me
it didn't exist. So you have you had a parasite
from the water, from the food. I'm assuming something. I
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am something like that. And so even when you told them, hey,
I went to all these places, they still were like, NA,
you're crazy. Yeah, they literally go They literally told me
to go see a psychiatrist. So then you go to
what kind of doctors? Say it was? UM? So I
went to multiple doctors, natural a path what is it?
So they use um more like from the earth kind
(40:05):
of things rather than like, oh here's a pill, poppet,
see what happens. But they knew you had a parasite.
So I told them all my symptoms and they were like, yeah,
absolutely have a parasite. And I was like I did.
I've done so much research and I know that's what
I have. And the doctor I was saying at the
time was like, yeah, those don't exist. Um. It shouldn't
be giving you any of these symptoms. It's just in
your head. And so she gave me this cleanse that
I literally put under my tongue for three days and
(40:26):
I was better. Wow. Yeah, what can you know? They
tell you what kind of parentside it was? They did it,
but they did. I just forgot. That's crazy. Yeah, it's
a better journey. That's you're working on a new album?
Is this EP going to be part of the album?
Z E P? Something completely different? So, with UM with
the EP and having so long to think about it,
(40:47):
the whole idea of Love Kylie is because I feel
like each song is from me to the listener, like
it's either a part of my life for someone else's life,
or a journey, a chapter, something like that that's happened
throughout the decade I've been working on this thing, and
so with it being Love Kylie, it's like kind of like,
this is what I've been working on. This is my
gift to you, Like, I hope you relate to this
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kind of thing. And so my hope is to UM,
whether it's an EP or a full length album, do
a whole new batch of songs, and then I don't
I haven't told anyone this, but I want to call
it PS. So it's like all the things that I
didn't get to say on the Love Kylie album and
really go back to like the subject matters that people
want to hear about, and that's why I want, like,
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I don't want a whole album of love songs or
whole album of breakup songs, like I want it to
be so versatile and that way, whether you're a country
music fan or not, you have a song on the record.
Here is track three of Love Kylie. This is called
Outdoor Voices. Can use area to live. You want to
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keep it down, keep it down, keep it down, but
keeping oh he he Which one is the single ish thing?
So my vote has been I only date cowboys because, um,
that was the very first time I ever released a
(42:15):
song online before I had released it on Spotify or
Apple or anything like that, and got so much love
from it. Um, every time I posted a video it
would go viral and I just had so many people
being like, when is this out? When is this out?
And that was the first time I was like, oh
my gosh, Like without its just me and my guitar
are playing this song over and over posting different videos
and getting the same reaction, and so UM I actually
(42:37):
got the idea of wanting a song like that on
the album because I went to UM. I was on
radio tour and I went to some random bar and
everyone was doing their own thing and their own conversations,
and then out of nowhere, a Lizzo song came on
and everyone stopped what they were doing and just together
was go just like screamed w guy tell I gotta
the right. And that's immediately when I was like, I
want a song like that, Like I want to be
(42:59):
able to stop people in the tracks when they and
all the girls just freaked out about it. And so
I actually got this text the other day or is
a message on Instagram and this guy said I was
I was at this bar and blah blah blah, and
your your Cowboys song came on and all the girls
in the bar just freaked out, and I was like, yes,
Mr Goblins, I did it. Here's a clip of break
Things this track four stall, so don't hand me your
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Here is track five cheating on you? What is cheating
on you? Even? We like your next and why does
it sel like a hotel? And there's a scene, and
here is the final track, Mad I Need You. You
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write always looking at the songwriter creditor. You write every
one of them, So how important was it to you
to write them all? It was very important to me
because I feel like, having ten years to write this record,
it's like choosing between your children to figure out what
song you want on it. And that's when it came
down to actually making it an easier choice of what
songs we wanted, because I wanted it to be so versatile.
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So that's why there's only really one sad breakup song,
one love song, one like you know. So that way
it was like easier for me to choose between my children.
But with me like writing these songs and me being
so like open with my life, I want people to like.
For instance, cheating on You is about the negative part
of a relationship, about the valley that we will all
(44:50):
go through at some point in our relationship. For instance,
Jay and I happen together for six years, it's not
always been sunshine and rainbows, and so that leads into
mad I Need You, which is like a wall that
I had to break down of like realizing that I
can also be an independent woman and also need somebody
and not I feel like it's a burden rather to
rely on someone, but it's actually a good thing, and
(45:10):
so it kind of is like just one of those
things that's a story that continues to be told. And
that's why I am so excited to release more music
because it's just going to be more layers to feel back. Well,
that's awesome, it's really been great to meet you. You
you put out the record. It's killing. We're playing it,
you know. I'm sure they're gonna come with some attack strategy. Yeah, yeah, everything. Well, congratulations,
(45:35):
thank you so much, and thank you so much for
having me. This is a bucket list check for sure. Well,
this can be the first half of it. The second
half is getting on the big show of performing, you know,
just tapping into the water and then I'll jump in.
You're like ankle deep at the beach, like ankle deep
at the lake, that ankle deep at the lake. But no,
that's been great. It's been great. And you guys can
(45:56):
follow Kylie at Kylie Morgan Music, which apparently you retweet
everybody or repost everybody who tags you, you tigger, She'll
repost us at Kylie Morgan Music. You guts check out
Love Kylie. Kylie has been great talking with you. Thank
you so much.
Host
Bobby Bones
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