#381 - Jake Owen Returns to talk Sobriety, Acting and Health Updates + The Origin Story of His Stage Name + Why Lending His Tour Bus to Get Cancer Patient to Minnesota Is The Highlight of His Career - Bobbycast

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Like, you know, I told you have a twin brother.
You guys, most people know that we were wombmates. I
love that term wommates, and don't I don't know the room, Yeah,
looked around to see, but every one of you guys
were laughing, but without like acknowledging that that was funny.
Episode three eight one with Jake Owen. I believe this
is Jake's Over our many years of doing this third appearance,

(00:24):
they're always great, and it's I tell you, it's harder
to interview somebody you're really close to than somebody you
don't know. It's way harder. I can remember once doing
a long interview with sugar Land and it was before
they had said they were going to get back together
Fit and I just knew all this and it's like, well,
I know stuff, so I don't really know how to

(00:45):
It's just difficult because like, I know the good points,
the weird points. Thinking about Jakes and he told me
this before and it was like, bro, go wherever you
want to go. I don't care, let's just go. And
Jake's always super vulnerable and very transparent, and that's why
I like them. I Mean, there are times we've declared
our love for each other. Times we fought with each
other on this that that other one. I wish they'd

(01:07):
stopped playing as a promo clip on the But Jake's
on and this was really good. I expected no less.
Jake's always pound for pound the best interview that we
have on the radio show too, And so we talked about.
What I found to be super interesting was his name.
I knew his name was Josh, his legal name, but
I didn't know how he and why he picked Jake.

(01:27):
I just thought Jake sounds country, so that's what he picked.
I didn't know why. I didn't know why I didn't
go with Josh. Josh Down's country. I have friends from
the country, my cousin's name Josh. But it all makes
sense once he tells the story. What do you agree?
But first time I've ever heard of that detailed and
I hang out with them. But also I do have
the luxury of asking him questions I would never ask
when we hang out. It's different very I I have

(01:49):
like a free pass to go to places professionally with
him that I probably wouldn't ask if we're just having dinner,
because we have real life stuff to talk about. It
would be weird to come up just naturally yeah and
be like, hey, tell me about when you're preparing for
a tour and like that rehearsal part of it, Like
what I mean I could? I guess I just don't.
It's just weird. But Jake is a really good friend

(02:09):
of mine at this point in my life, Like we
hang out, our wives are really good friends. And I
was really proud of this, and I think people will
like it, don't you. And I think it's way different
than the other two we've done. Got a new song
called up There Down Here. Here's a little clip of
that one. He's touring on his forty six headlining up
There Down Here tour. Travis Denning and Mackenzie Carpenter are

(02:30):
going to be with him. Go to Jaco and dot
net to get tickets to that. That's all like, let's
just go and get to it. This is Jake Owen
and we're getting closer to four hundreds, which is crazy.
They've done wait on a lot of these shows. We
got a library here. We really have information. Here's Jaco
on the Bobycast. What's up, dude, what are you wearing?
What is that? What do you mean, I don't know
if I can jumpsuit or something. I have one of those.

(02:51):
Kaylen won't let me wear it. You won't know because
I have a I have a red one. It's awesome. Actually, Okay,
So this is UM. There's a charity brand which does
a lot of cool flannels and things like that. They
partnered with this guy, Raylan Baxter, who also lives in
Kingston Springs where where we live, who makes great music

(03:11):
and this kind of some of the money kicks back
to his camp that he does for music for kids
and whatnot. And so I bought it offline. Yeah, I've
been wearing it a lot lately and I feel like
it's a full grown pajama set, the full body suit.
And I have one that I tried to wear it
once and she told me I couldn't wear it. I'd
recommend it. I just was grabbing some fuh, well, I'm
glad you did you wore it, because now I could

(03:31):
be like, look, Jake Worett, I should wear my Well
I was. I just saw Tyler Hubbard at at the
Fun Place and his first comment was, Dude, that is
an awesome jumpsuit. Is that a jumpsuit? I was like, yeah,
I think I'm encouraging the jumpsuit, so that's good. Hey,
I didn't know you were doing a whole fifty basically
fifty date tour next year, are you am? I I'm

(03:54):
just kidding, I am. Yeah. I didn't think you were
doing a bunch of shows, like a whole bunch of
shows next year. I'm doing enough. You know. Forty six
is a lot. Yeah, I mean not really, not really
considered compared to what I've done in previous years. I'm
not used to only doing that amount of shows, but uh,
it is a lot of shows. It's a lot to
be on the road, especially as my little girls are growing.

(04:15):
But forty six doesn't mean that's every show. I'm just saying,
as one tour fort I didn't know you were doing
a forty six date Like, I guess that's why you're rehearsing.
Are you rehearsing? Now? What do you do? Do you
rent out of space? Uh? We do from time to time.
I've done everything from having rehearsals at my barn at
my property to do the thing that every other artist

(04:36):
does and get a rehearsal spot. Um. And then also
we're we get our audio gear from UM Sound Image.
We we rehearse there, so we got a few different ones.
When you rehearse, you're not really practicing how to play
songs or are you in that or are you practicing
where you're gonna run and if flames shoot up? Like no, no, no, no,
I think I don't know. I don't I don't have

(04:58):
a practice or plan that stuff. That's probably why I'm
decent at it is at entertainment value because I don't.
I don't put a lot of emphasis on what it's
going to be. I'm excited for what it can be. UM,
But that's not the rehearsal, like I'm gonna run over
here in the middle of this song. Yeah, no, no, no no,
not at all. But we do rehearse the so called
schematics of what the songs shall be and should be

(05:21):
and what this show should feel like. So you can
have a game plan so called, and then have audibles.
So we just kind of worked work on what fits
best for the game plan and then how we can
throw audibles based upon how that game plan goes. Do
you have one of those mics that you can only
talk to your band. We have a couple of them,
and do you ever worry that one's actually going over there?
I have definitely thought about that before on some things

(05:41):
that I've said. Has it ever gone out there? No? No, no,
never no. But even things I've said unclosed mics, I
look back upon and think I should not have probably
said that I'm a human because anything can be recorded.
Do you record every show? We do? We do? We
try to. Which is another thing that I'm working on
right now too, is take can all those live recordings
that we've done for quite some time and putting them together.

(06:03):
It's like a live album because one of my favorite
things to do is play live music, and I feel
like it represents me well when people see me do
my thing. I want to hear that what you're saying
that that microphone, though you have to leave that in there.
That would be funny actually, Like when you're getting on
somebody for a day, would you get onto somebody on
that mic? Specifically? Uh? No, not no. Never. I'm one

(06:24):
of these like I might joke with someone every now
and then if they if they miss a note or
something that I hear. But I mess up all the time,
so and nobody gets on there and says, hey, you
messed up. You pay, you paid. You're the one that checks. Yeah,
but even if you write the check to people, you
can't tell them what they're doing wrong all the time.
Like you just gotta be like, hey, man, I heard
you miss that note. You know, hopefully we don't do
that again, you know. But I'm not like, hey, you

(06:46):
missed it, you owe me my money back. Can you
hear if somebody misses a note totally the same way
somebody can hear if I'm miss a note, you know.
I mean, it's just especially when you play every day together.
But most of the time it's not that they're just
missing because they don't know it. It's miss to the
note because you're distracted or something's going on. UM. I
do that a lot. Sometimes I'll see people singing the
lyrics of my songs and I'll think, Wow, they're singing

(07:07):
every lyric to that song. And that's what I'm thinking,
is Wow, this person knows all the lyrics of the song.
But what I'm not thinking is what the next line
is in the actual song I'm singing. So if you
take your mind off autopilot sometimes and concentrate on other things,
there's there's room for error. Do you know every word
to all the songs or do you have to relearn
them if you take some time off. I'm pretty good

(07:29):
with learning. I know every word pretty much to every song,
not just yours, most of them, except there's lots of
times like this morning, where I just don't know where
like my wallet is, you know, so you're using that.
I'm just like, how can I know every word to
you know, Chumbawamba, you know, which is very random pull,

(07:51):
but not know where my wallet is that I had
last night? I put an air tag in mine so
I can find it, which is annoying because any other
person that you're around and gets alerted that's someone near
you has an air attack. I saw popping up on
your phone the other day, Yeah, and you kept going,
why is it popping up on my phone? But I
didn't say it. I was just like somebody's but I
saw you going, what the you know what I mean?
Like air tags are cool for that person that doesn't

(08:12):
want to lose their stuff, for everybody else that can
keep track of their stuff, but you can't keep tracking.
You said you couldn't keep tracking. I'm not I'm no,
but I'm out of respect. Like that day. I knew
where my stuff was, but you didn't, or you or
you did, You just needed the affirmation of where it was.
First of all, the AirTag's battery was running low, and
that's why I was popping up. Well yeah that can
be a problem, yes, but now it's fully charged. But
I kept seeing a pop up on your phone and

(08:34):
you didn't say anything, but I did see the annoyance. Well,
I had a bad experience on my tour bus on
time of someone that had an air tag that didn't
know they had an air attack. That makes sense, So
therefore I kept saying, someone on here has an air
attag because it's not me. I keep getting alert that
you have an air attack, and everyone like I don't
have an air attack. This one on for like two weeks,
and I would get these ups like someone's tracking us
to then someone's for sure trying to figure out where

(08:54):
we are. And then one day my buddy is like, god, man,
I have an air attack. And it's been it's been,
it's been in his like dot kit for two weeks.
So Caitlin and I went to the Caribbean whatever Turks
and Kate wherever that is Turks and Caicos maybe the Caribbean,
and so we went over. We had suitcases and they

(09:15):
were like, well, mail him back. You know, we have
to take them through customs. It's part of our service.
I'm like, we're like great. So we put air tags
in suitcases and then they lost our bags and we
didn't say him for I don't think two months maybe,
but we knew by the air tags they were somewhere
in the airport in Miami. So the air tags don't die, no,
not for almost a year. And in the batteries. So

(09:37):
the batteries on your ones on the on the airplane
the other day they were going off or whatnot, they
just happened to be about a year or a year old.
That's exactly well that one. And so since that one
was a lot, we went and change the ones on
our dogs too. But I could use air tags on
my dogs for sure. Do you want to talk about that? Sure?
Because it wrecked my couple of days. It wasn't my dog.
Well yeah, I wasn't even Oh that's what I thought.

(09:58):
You meant. You just want to talk about air tag
on dogs, and you want to I want to talk
about my dogs on dogs have saved el Or, our
dog who runs away. We tracker were I was working
in another country at Costa Rica, and Elor escaped and
I was calling who was staying at our house, like yeah,
she's three blocks down, and she was like tracking her
as I was like telling her where she was. So, yes,
get air tags for your dogs. But your dog ours

(10:19):
have run off so many times that I don't know
why we don't have air attacks on them, you know
what I mean. That's something that seems like every time
I get mad, I'm so mad. I'm like, you know,
it was what day was it last? I don't know.
We were chasing them on Christmas morning. I think it was.
I think it was Christmas morning and our dogs ran off.
And uh, we have, you know, quite a bit of
acreage to and um to think that they aren't happy

(10:43):
enough on the acreage that they have, and it makes
you a little upset to think that they want more
an you know, you're not providing the wide open space
they'd really love and naturally, yeah, it's weird. But anyways,
they run awf a lot and I could use one.
And speaking of talking about it, we did, as you know, uh,
misplace one of our dogs the other day, who doesn't
really move a lot most people out there. I don't

(11:05):
think you misplaced. We didn't, but it just in a way.
Our dog, Merle, who I've had for almost fourteen years,
bulldog found his way down the hill of our property
and couldn't find his way back up. Um and he
was there overnight by himself. We couldn't find him. We
had to call the search team off when it got dark,
and then the next morning we found him. So all

(11:27):
as well with Morrow. In case you were wondering, I'm
not wondering, because I was hitting up Eric. I like,
I found the dog. I don't want to have jakeo
and bother him. He found the dog. I called you,
you were rehearsals went right your voicemail and I had
Eric I found the dog. And then finally she woke
up to that morning, I said, hey, she goes found
the dog. I had exhausted all options. I really did.
I mean from the worst case scenario of well, maybe,

(11:48):
like I said, we live on property, so maybe coyotes,
but there's no way that could happen. There was no
sign of it. Nothing, no blood, no, I mean right,
there was none of that. There was no uh there
was nothing, There was no there was no trail of him.
There was no and he couldn't. You could leave him
for twenty four hours and his dog would not move
and he had moved literally how many feet, almost shoot

(12:13):
quarter of them all seriously, and you think he actually
made that homework bound or do you think somebody, Well,
part of me, there's a part of me that fields
because he's at this age as a as a dog
where I don't want to let him go yet. I
know there's the dog owners and people out there like
you can't let him suffer. He's not suffering. He loves
his life. He goes out, lays right in the sun.
He can move fine some days. Some days his arthritis

(12:33):
whatever gets up on him and so he doesn't move well.
And um, I just don't. I can't put him down yet,
Like he's healthy, but there's no need to put him down.
I don't think you have justified of not putting him
down when there's but there's a lot of people. I
think that a lot of people are idiots. Well, just
there are people that are asked me all the time, like, man,
why don't why don't you put him down? He doesn't
really he doesn't do anything, like he likes not doing anything.
You know, he's kind of chilling. But anyways, he didn't

(12:55):
move that night. We built him a nice new ramp
for his for his his kennel that we have, like
nice heaters in their for him everything, and uh, he
decided to venture down the hill instead. And part of
me does feel guilty getting out. What I was saying
is because I was like, well, maybe this was his journey.
Like maybe people say dogs venture off to kind of
do their thing and maybe pass on, and like maybe

(13:17):
I did. Maybe he made it all the way down there,
and was like why why? I was just it was
like that Craig Morgan song, like I was I was
almost home, you know. I don't think that's the case,
but that the night, like close to that, you were like,
maybe he just wandered off and disappeared. He didn't think
he died, you, Yeah, he just disappeared into the space.

(13:38):
A fighter man. He's been been there for a lot
of things in my life. That's awesome. He's that old though,
But I feel like I feel like he he would
have told me in a way he would have been
able to tell me by before he just wandered off.
Maybe he just wanted to go down by the river.
Fart snore combo. Yeah, he's we got him back though.
Where he's he's good, he's healthy. He was chilling in
the sun when we left the house earlier. He was

(14:00):
just out there. I was talking to Kitlin because what
she said to me that was funny. She said, you know,
she goes, she was listening to your music. She goes,
I just want to know his music better since we're friends,
because she's never not in a bad way, but she's
never been like a massive Jaco and music fan. I
am not offended. No, no, it's not an offensive thing
at all. That's why I'm not offended. But she was like,

(14:20):
she was listening to your music because I feel like
we're friends, I should know his music at it's a
little better. It was really cool of her to do.
And so we were playing cards and we turned it
on and my favorite song, well one of them down
down to the hockey talk. I was like, this is
the most underrated Jake song of all time. Um, I don't,
I don't, I don't. I agree with you that it's

(14:42):
a it feels like a like a good hit song.
I've never been like an underrated thing like of like, oh,
under heralded. Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's haralded for
what it is. It works really well live. Like if
I look at from a competitive standpoint of this would
have been a great addition to a number one thing, heck,
yeah that'd be cool. But it did what it did

(15:04):
and uh, yeah, it's a big song for sure, Thank you.
I like that song a lot, me too. I would
think that when you play that, when people know that
one as well as some of the other number ones, yeah,
if not better. You can look at like Spotify numbers
and whatever not that I do that I do all
the time. I'm not gonna lie and uh and it
will show that you that it didn't. It may not
have been a number one song, but it streams and

(15:25):
seals as much as any other them. Did you take
any sort of music class or lessons at all when
you were a kid? Trumpet, guitar lessons, learned to play
anything at all with anybody? Even one lesson at all? Yeah, yeah,
I definitely took a couple of lessons once I got
into like I wanted to play guitar. It took a
lesson from this this old guy Paul. How old? How

(15:45):
old was he? How old are you? Oh? Was I?
I was maybe not eighteen or nineteen, And with the
intention of learning just to play guitar, just to play better.
I taught myself a little bit. But this guy was
a member of the Grand Old Opry and happened to
be in my little hometown of your Beach, Florida, which
I thought was cool and I kind of I think
it was more or less of sitting with him and

(16:06):
hearing stories. But I never got really any better than
I was when I was nineteen or twenty. Have you
taken lessons uh playing golf? I have you played obviously
in college? In high school? It was our golf team
at your high school? Yep? Were you a good high
school golfer? I was? Were you the best high school
golfer um like like around you in the area? So

(16:28):
you played golf at a collegiate level, and you aren't
the best in your high school like your area. There's
a lot of kids in my area where I'm from
that are just really good at a lot of things,
which is why maybe I will I will say I
will not just say maybe I will say that one
of the reasons I think I've always been challenged to
be better at things is because there was always people
better than me around me. So no matter what I

(16:49):
was doing as a kid, there was someone who's always
better pushing us to want to be like that guy
or acting. Take lessons for that that. This is all
my point, So I was gonna get too. So we
just walked there together. It feels like acting is something
you'd like to do more of, I would for sure.
I enjoyed it, I liked it. It was something that
kind of was came. It felt good doing it. So,

(17:11):
so here we are. You wanted to be an artist,
guitar player took guitar lessons, You wanted to be golfer,
he took lessons If you want him now act, So
I gotta take lessons. While I'm asking you, I mean,
is it Are you passionate enough about it to go
like next level and start to train? I would say classically,

(17:34):
but at least a little more classically where you gotta
learn from somebody that's done it totally. So one of
my favorite things to do is learn from people that
are that are the best at it or do it. Uh,
even for Christmas, I gave my mom masterclass, um, because
I love I love that. I love watching all these
different masters, whether it be Aaron Franklin and his barbecuing.

(17:54):
You did that one? Yeah, I did Steve Martin, but
that's funny. He did barbecuing. Did you learn anything totally?
That's awesome once? Oh get this one time I was
doing Masterclass Magic and Caitlin walked in whenfre I started dating,
and she yeah, I was doing. I just started and
I stopped. I did like two lessons. She made fun
of me. I never did it again. I well, So
I love master Class and anyone listening out there, it's
like it's great. And it was something that I thought

(18:16):
was really a great idea that a friend turned me
onto as wealth this Christmas for my mom because she
said she's done everything from she's an artist, so I
thought she'd enjoy the painting side of it. But there's
someone on there that teaches more like urban art, um cooking.
My mom loves to cook. She's an incredible cook. Uh,
but she can learn from I mean, Jake's mom is
doing graffiti. Yeah yeah, go home, and my mom's like

(18:40):
all into crypto market. Yeah, but hey, you gotta I
feel like if you stop learning on things that that
you're then you're there's no more excitement for life. Like
I just like learning about things, and sometimes I learned
what I'm learning about I'll never be that good at,
so I just move on to some to learn about
something else. I'll that could be good at. When you
did the movie with Casey Flack and they approached you

(19:02):
or you heard about an audition, did you have to audition?
M M no. I met with the producer director UM
at a lunch in l A one day, and we
kind of hit it off. And I gotta give her
a lot of credit. Gab Gabrielle cop copperwit Copper. With UM,
she directed the movie UM Guys, Help Me out Here,

(19:26):
I'm on the spot Now. She also directed the movie
about the sea world Blackfish UM, and so we talked
about that a lot. I loved I love that documentary. UM.
She has twins. I'm a twin, so we just kind
of hit it off and she gave me amazing I mean,
she stuck her neck out for me to go and
do what I didn't even even think realize was a
bigger major style picture at the time with major actors.

(19:50):
UM and give me a part to just walk in
and pretend I knew what I was doing, and I
don't know I did it. I haven't made a movie since,
so maybe I didn't do that good of a job.
What was the pressure or maybe there wasn't on you
when they're like all right, here we go action and
you're with people who are way better than you at
that craft, did you feel a pressure not to slow

(20:12):
it down? No? No No, No, I've always thrived. Honestly, I've
always thrived in moments where I had to do it,
like I have no way out, here's your chance to
do it. And I've always felt like I've been good
in those moments when I have to like really practice practice, practice,
practice practice for something that then has to be exactly
like what I practiced. I've never been really good at that.

(20:34):
Like I'm real good on my feet, I'm good at
I'm good at uh just kind of doing it. And
um so not to say that I'm just naturally able
to do it. I probably should have maybe in a way,
but um I was not nervous. Did you wing it
in school? Yeah? Like it was. It feels like you're
you're a crammer. Total Crammer. I wasn't the guy that

(20:56):
came home every day and took thirty minutes to do
his homework. So it was by the end of the week.
I always was like, Mom was like, hey, have you
done your homework? And I'd say yeah, and she's like, no,
you did it, And I like, you're right, I didn't.
So I would have to go upstairs and do my
homework and I would do it, and I get there
to the next day and I'd take a test, and
I was always like the guy they like made a B.
You know, I never got a plus. Is all all through?

(21:19):
But uh, but I liked being good at a lot
of different things, but I've never been great at one thing.
What did your parents think you would be? Eight grade?
You know, that's something I've never thought about asking them.

(21:40):
But my mom might have told you I might have been. Uh,
i'd have no, that's a great question. That's a great question.
I would say maybe architect. I like to draw. I
love houses. My dad was in the building kind of
housing development style business growing up as a kid. My
mom is, like I said, an artist, but she's really
created of so I liked writing. Um, I could have

(22:03):
been a teacher. Maybe I love kids, I like I
like teaching others things that makes it fulfills me. Um.
But I don't know. I don't know what they would
have told you. Did your mom or dad have any
advice for you when you said I'm gonna go to
Nashville and be an artist because it feels like your mom.
No to my mom and dad's credit. Would have your
dad more practical, practical, very great word. My dad was

(22:27):
on the phone the night I told my mom and
dad I wanted to move to Nashville. Um, and he
listened to me. He even tells the story now where
he says, yeah, I can tell you had it kind
of rehearsed, which is what I'm contradicting to what I
just told you i'd do. I really didn't have it rehearsed.
I just knew, and that's my thing. I guess maybe
I was good at it in that moment too. I
called him up. I knew I wanted to move to Nashville.
This is where I can make it if there was

(22:48):
a chance. I was twenty three, two years old. Uh.
You can always go back to school, but you can't
always take back those younger years of your life. That's
what I delivered to my mom and dad on the
and I said, so, I want to go to Nashville
and I want your blessing. And my dad just said, well,
are you're thinking of going? And I said tomorrow, And

(23:10):
there was a hesitation in his voice and then he
he said, I'll never forget it. He's like, well, it
sounds like you got your mind made up. I'm proud
of you that you could make this phone call. Uh.
I will not support you from a financial standpoint as
a father, but I'll support you. Um as a dad
should just be in behind you and what you believe in,

(23:31):
and I'll be there for you if you need me. Um.
And he definitely there was a couple of times where
he definitely helped me financially. UM. So, so he didn't
hold true to that, but um, but yeah, I did it.
And then my mom is the one that actually got
my fore Runner with me and drove up here and
I did. It was a couple of days later I
lived in Nashville. Do you remember after you guys got

(23:53):
here and you unpacked whatever you unpacked. I don't you
have a trailer, just packed your for Runner? I did.
I had a little small U haul trailer. Um, I
packed the wrong way uh before coming up here, like whatever,
weight wise, because we couldn't go over forty five miles
an hour on the way up here because the trailer
it would shake back and forth like violently. So word
to the wise, if you ever packing a U haul trailer,

(24:14):
there's a way to pack it. I believe it's heavy
towards the rear, not so much towards the like tailgate.
You know, I've never packed literally like I couldn't go.
I was going forty five and I couldn't go any
faster than that. People would come by hank in their horn.
I'm the kitchen, can't you see? My trailer is shaking
violently behind me? But all along it was my fault.

(24:34):
When she gets here with you and you unpack everything
and it's time for her to go, did you have that?
So this is where the part came in where my
dad helped me out a little bit. So I'd already
had it set up, man. I'd made some music in
college where I had made some money, um playing you know,
fraternity parties and sorority stuff and whatever else anybody would
pay me to do downtown get downs um, and I

(24:55):
had some money, and I set aside enough to where
I could pay for at least like six months of
rent um. Even though I signed a year lease. I
figured I could figure out the next six months, which
is again dancing. You know I have. If you have
to do something, you have to do it. So I
had six months. Uh. We got to the place, which
I thought I got a good deal on, and my
mom was like, yeah, no, you're not living here, and

(25:17):
I could see her crying when she dropped me off
and was just a bad place, Like gross, Yeah it was.
It was pretty gross, but I didn't care. And that
was what was weird, is that was I don't know
who that guy was. Like sometimes I overly care about
things now in my life and I over analyzed things
and I asked myself like should you be doing this?
Should you not be doing this? Like that guy back

(25:37):
then I didn't ask himself that at all. He was
just like, yeah, okay, cool, Mom. Thanks, When are you
like holler at me when you get back to Florida. Um,
I'll be good here. That's all I needed, was like
a place to stay and live, and like I felt
empowered by just being there. UM and my mom was like, yeah, no,
and I could see her outside on the phone like
tearing up, and she called my dad just like we
cannot let him stay here, like there's I don't feel

(25:58):
comfortable leaving him here. So to my mom's credit, she
helped me, uh flex a little bit, and uh I
got an apartment there was like two hundred dollars more
a month, because I remember at the time, I could
get that apartment for like four eighty five and uh
it was five bucks and this other one we found
was seven twenty a month and that's a lot of money, man,
And um, so it cut my six months rent down

(26:21):
that I had to like four months. But my dad
helped me a little bit. So he didn't ask for
that though I didn't. I didn't. Uh. That's still really
cool of him. But it just goes to show you.
I mean, you know, no matter who your parents are.
And I feel guilty sometimes saying that because there's a
lot of kids and people that moved to this town.
They don't have any help. They just are moving here
on a dream. And I know for a fact that
I would not be where I am today, especially if

(26:43):
it wasn't for people that helped me along the way. Um,
they definitely believed in me, and I put forth the effort.
But there was a lot of help that I got
in ways that made my life easier than most. When
your mom drove off to drive back home to leave
you here, where you sad she was leaving like instantly
homesick at least for a minute. Or were you excited

(27:04):
that you're now in Nashville. It can be both as well,
but which one more? Uh? Well, for the first time
in my life, I was on my own. So it
was pretty awesome in a weird way because I felt like,
you know, I told you have a twin brother, you guys,
most people know that when you have a twin brother,
you're not only doing everything with that person, your entire

(27:25):
life from you. We were wombmates, you know, from the
time we were with my mom all the way through
the time that I left. I love that term wommates
and don't have I don't know any around the room. Yeah,
he looked around to see but every one of you
guys were laughing, but without like acknowledging that that was funny.
So anyways, Uh, when you live with a twin brother

(27:46):
your whole life, you go to college. Uh. I watched
my brother be super successful with a lot of things
that he's done in his life, and he was proud
of me and would push me. But like the minute
that I broke away, and I remember Jared saying like, really,
you're gonna move to Nashville like school to finish man, Like,
don't you want to graduate? I was like, no, I don't.
I'm ready to go. And I think it blew my
brother's mind from a brotherly standpoint, first off of like

(28:09):
he really is gonna like leave me. We've never been apart,
so it kind of hurt his feelings, um, which I
was unintentional on my part um, but it also blew
his mind in like a proud of new way where
he's like, holy cow, like he really is going to
do this, which gave me confidence like yeah I am.
And so uh when I got there, I really wasn't sad.

(28:30):
I felt like empowered that I now it's on me again.
Here I am in one of these other moments where
I gotta like either dance or or swim or or drowned,
you know, And I I swam and I just start
remember I remember that second apartment that I ended up
getting There was a pool party going on that day
when I moved in, and I'm the guy below me
that I met. His name was Dave and his wife Cathy.

(28:50):
I still talked to Um. They helped me move in,
and at the time, you gotta understand, like I'd gone
through my whole life known as Josh. That was my
birth given name, Josh and Jared um my twin brother.
But I didn't want to be Josh. That was another
thing that kind of felt empowering in a weird way.
People often say they're like, oh, would you move them
down town and then label made you change your name?
I'm like, nah, man, I was Jake like the day

(29:12):
I moved to town, but in an instant, Like, in
an instant, I changed it. I remember talking to my
mom on the way up, like what am I gonna
go by? Like I can't go as Josh, and I'll
tell you why. Uh. Josh Turner at the time was
on the radio. There was a Josh Grayson. There was
another guy on the radio. It was great, uh. And
then there was a guy named Josh Owen, which made
me solidified even more. I dropped the CD off under

(29:33):
Josh Owen at b m I like two weeks before
I moved to Nashville. I actually came up here to
to to case the place, you know, like can I
live here? And then I went back to Tallahassee two
weeks later when I called my parents and said I'm
moving tomorrow. But while I was here, I dropped the
CD off at the time to be am I upfront,
Josh Owen whatever. When I got back, I called him

(29:54):
on it. They're like, yeah, uh, they said you'd come
by the day before and I'm like, definitely not. And
they're like, no, we have your album here too, And
so I went back by there and the album that
they had was another guy named Josh Owen from Texas,
who I think was on Nashville Star maybe even so
there's already Josh Owen. There was Josh Turner, Josh Grayson.
So I considered since my middle names Ryan, there was

(30:15):
a moment there I was gonna go by j R.
Probably j j R. Oh, and baby just call me JR.
Like my mom watched Dallas as a kid. So there
was that guy Jr. And j R sounds cowboy count
kind of cool, you know, Ryan. So I know, but
so this is the funny part. So when I meet
David Cathy moving in that day in Bellevue wind Chase, Bellevue, Uh,

(30:37):
to my apartment. He's like, hey, man, I'm Dave, and
I'm like, I'm Jr. Testing it out due my mom
had no idea she overheard me. I could see her
like like look at me, like almost laughing. I'm like,
in my mind, I'm looking at her like, don't say anything,
like I'm JR. Of this guy. He knows no different.
So I'm down on the I'm down at the pool

(30:58):
or whatever. A few minutes later and I'm meeting some people.
He's entrying me too, that are that are I've already
lived in this place, and it's kind of the whole like, hey,
he's the new guy moved here. He plays music too,
And and I said to this one other guy, I'm like,
I'm Jake man, what's up? And uh. I remember that's
when my buddy Dave was like, wait, I thought you
said your name was j R. And I was like,
well it is, but I go by Jake. So like
the Jake Ryans, the Jared's, I'm just gonna go by Jake.

(31:19):
And it was this easier and I started going by
Jake that day at the pool party, and so this
day that's what everybody's called me. And in a weird way,
since I'm forty one now and I was twenty two then,
like half of my life I was known as one
thing and the other half I've been known as this
in a weird way way, more people know me now
as Jake than ever knew me as Josh. I still

(31:39):
don't mind when I go home and some of my
friends would call me Josh totally and they can't help it.
But then there's some people to that call me Josh
just to like kind of get at me because they know,
like if I tell you, if I call you Josh,
then you know I know you before and then and
they really didn't, but it's their way of that's interesting
that you break it down age wise. I mean, I've

(32:01):
been Bobby Bones since I was eighteen more than I
and more people know me is that than my real name,
Herbert Winchester. Yeah, that's a great name, herb Well they
set up too many syllables, but I didn't use it
on the radio. Yeah, so Herbert Winchester just but the
old people know me? Is that Back in London. That
sounds like a London name, Herbert Winchester. You talk about

(32:24):
leaving college, but you had what you're like, nine hours
short though, huh, I think twelve. I think twelve. Any
interest in finishing that up? Um? Probably not really, No,
I would. I'd like to you, like I said, like,
I like to finish things. I don't like to leave
things unfinished. Um. English and political Science, which was honestly

(32:46):
because English and political science together could have allowed me,
if to go to like law school, if I wanted
to go to law school, um, which I don't know that.
I don't really love law. I just thought at the time,
like it sounds good to tell people you are gonna
go to law school. Political science isn't that heart of
a major. I already like English. That works out. I
can get by for the next year or two. When

(33:07):
people are like, you know, your elders are like, what
are you doing with your life? Like, well, I'm gonna
go to law school like cool, then it's like something
to talk about. If you're like, I don't know, I
don't really figure that out yet, the conversation kind of
ends there. So I kind of always wanted to pertain
or seems smarter than I was. When you move here,
and you obviously have to make money because you have
to pay the rent, you gotta eat. How do you

(33:29):
make money? What's your very first paying gig here? And
how do you get it? Like, what do you do? Caddied?
Have the golf club with Tennessee, So you know, I
didn't expect that that answer. Okay, so you wouldn't get
a real job. I don't know that I'd call cat. Oh,
but I shouldn't say I shouldn't say that because I've
got a lot of really good friends in my golf
club that I'm now a member at, which is weird.

(33:50):
You can so you caddied at the place that you're
now a member of. Yeah, and the same guy this
is the caddy master of me then is still the
caddy master now. Um. And if it was weird to
go out there and like when people are like hey,
mr own you know or whatever, and I was like,
I was just I was just a kid with the
white jersey on like you guys like fifteen years ago. Uh.
And there's a couple other members out there that were

(34:10):
caddies to that made it and did something, um, which
isn't to take anything away, like I said, Like when
I when I said, I don't know if i'd say
that Caddy was a real job. I just meant that,
like once again being self admitting, like I was, like,
I can go put a couple of bags on my
shoulder and walk around starting at seven in the morning,
uh till new one o'clock, carry two bags, make some

(34:30):
cash money, and then have the rest of the afternoon
to work on my music and stuff. That's a little
bit better job than to go work somewhere, you know
from a nine to five or go work, you know,
doing a job like I just I had more freedom
with my job. Um, and it wasn't like digging ditches either.
If it was something that I enjoyed. I love to
go off. I knew people around golf, so I found

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I always what I'm trying to say is I was
trying to find the easy way to make some money
to where I could still do what I really wanted
to do. I would say, if you have to though,
that's a real job period like you had. I just
feel like I didn't like maybe it wasn't like I
didn't ever look at it as like a job that
I hated like I actually liked it. It was cool.

(35:12):
Like every morning you're walking the dues on the golf course,
the guys you're talking to are successful people, obviously if
they remembered a club like that, So it's cool to
just like learn from those guys and talk what are
you here for. I'm trying to play music, maybe I
know a guy in the business. It's it's like I
looked forward to that, whereas there's some jobs that I
think people go to because they have to and they
have to and it was and it's something that's maybe

(35:34):
not as engaging, so I never My point is I
never looked at it as like I was struggling to
get by, Like I was lucky enough to have a
job that provided me with money and the opportunity to
meet cool people and um do what I liked and
not feel so stressed out, which is kind of nice.
At the golf course I worked at, there was a
hierarchy caddie top of people that weren't full time caddy

(35:59):
carty eyes, and then me maintenance. So you were like
royalty and I was a mere peasant in my golf Yeah,
you definite wouldn't been my friend because he didn't cross
over those economic you know. So it's cool that we're
the same now, huh, yeah, totally. I hated the morning do.

(36:20):
I once fell asleep driving into work and welcome somebody
yard because to get there before the sun went up
at Green's. But you have to do that with your job.
Now you have to get up before the sun comes
up and go to work. Yeah, it's different then because
the money was six bucks an hour. It's eight bucks
an hour now. I was about to say so now
you just now it's just like gotta get up, I
gotta do it. But that too, it was I had

(36:41):
a broader plan. I have a broader plan now, right,
I do it with motivation of I'm investing into this
for bigger than I was. Just like trying to buy
school shoes. There's a difference and having to go do whatever.
It's my turn to ask questions. Do you ever one? So?
I don't know. I wonder like successful people like yourself,
I do this so I'm self admitting again, like, no

(37:02):
matter what you have or how hard you've worked for it,
do you ever fear that like I'll be gone tomorrow? Yeah? Right, yeah,
I mean it's like in a weird. My My wife
is in the room too. I can let you answer
this can hop up to my real quick. I'm gonna
put her on because she wants to come in here.
She can hop on real quick. She even said that

(37:24):
we I don't have to answer the question because I'll
just answer it. What do you think to is answer
that question? Well, then she's answering the question. But I
can say the answer that sounds good, humble pop. I'm
just a humble gun. I think at all be gone tomorrow.
Humble humble right, like that's what it would sound like
if I said it. But but but she's with me
every day and she has to have just to like
slap me sometimes to be like yo, like look at

(37:45):
the real world. First, go ahead, ask the question again.
Just uh, I look at my life. This isn't this
is a this is a lead up to the question.
So I look at my life a lot. Where I
am now coming from that apartment I explained and all
this stuff and working as a caddie, but I still
feel like it could be gone at any minute. So
I never forget those days of doing that. And I'm

(38:05):
and I know you don't forget those days of working
maintenance either. But my question is, isn't it normal, as
even when you're to be successful, to still worry that
you there's a chance you couldn't be one day, Like
like when do you ever feel comfortable? I guess does
he feel comfortable every day like this is this is
gonna be this way forever? Or do is that what
motivates you has to to work hard every day forward?

(38:26):
Is that the question? I get what you're saying. Um, definitely,
you Bobby live life as if we will be poor tomorrow.
I think of the time that's good. It's motivating, and
it keeps you trying and constantly thinking about the next step.

(38:48):
But I think it's a hindrance the other fifty percent
of the time because you're never able to enjoy where
you are. Yeah, And I mean I think you're both
very similar in that way, right, Yeah, I mean I
don't relax a lot, that's what you're saying, Like I'm
the I'm the perfect like other end of the relax
bro Like either talking that to me so I can. Yeah,

(39:11):
I think you both struggle if I may can cut
this out with living in the moment, like enjoying what
you've worked for and reflecting on all you've done, the
successes you have, the money that you've made, because you're
so good at what you do, each of you, and
you don't just like use those resources or even just

(39:34):
use your mind to relax and enjoy whatever is happening
at that moment, whether it's a vacation or a dinner
or hanging out with your spouses. I it's admirable. She
throws in hanging out with your spouse like it's the
final one. It's admirable, but it's also a struggle. Like I,

(39:55):
I can't imagine having the thought process of what if
I lose it all tomorrow. I don't think that way. Um,
I don't have trauma in that way, but it must
be hard. You. I don't know that I fear it.
That was really cool of great Well said. I don't
know that. I don't fear like it's gonna be going tomorrow.
I just like, like I try to be cautious of

(40:17):
it at least, you know, And and and like there's
times where I just look around, whether it's even with
my little girls or or Erica or my mom and dad.
Like I said, I think about them, Like Mike, when
you know there's always an ending to something, and no
matter how great and grand, life shall team and be
like I'm always like man, I wish I didn't think
so much about that, So I guess that was my question, Like,

(40:39):
am I the all right? Am I the only weird
one that thinks that I? I live mostly out of fear?
I think most people do, though, right, how many people
do you know? They're just like whatever? Really not whatever?
But she's like, I trust everything, I'll be fine. I
love that about you, Caitlin, I do. That's that's and
then maybe that's why that's why that's that's your yang

(41:00):
to your your yen, right you you're yere yang, Like
you need to have that because if you had two
people that were living in fear, then that's not a
good relationship because then you're both living in fear. If
you've got one that's like, there is to comfort you, Like,
now things are gonna be all right. You're like, that's
what I needed. Oh, she's kind of back up, here
we go. I enjoy this. I do want to say
to that I have the luxury of not having to

(41:22):
worry about that because you, Bobby have worked so hard
and obviously we have everything we could need. So have
you been that way since you were a kid though? Right?
Like that, Honestly, my I had such great parents, like
I've never, thank God, had to worry about the next day, right,

(41:43):
So that is very lucky. So I don't think it's
necessarily I mean, nature versus nurture. I think that it's
definitely a nurture on both of our parts, right, Like,
I don't think I was born everything's gonna be okay,
and you were born everything's going to burn down tomorrow.
But I do think that that's just naturally the role
that we have to play in each other's lives so

(42:05):
that we're both not miserable every single day. And it's
healthy for me to have that. But sometimes it's really
hard for me to have that because I don't understand
it and she doesn't understand, but we try to. We
also understand we don't understand each other sometimes, But she's
also so I mean, she understands herself where she's like,
this is obviously I don't exactly understand this trauma, but

(42:26):
I know it's coming from something and you're and basically saying,
I know you're acting crazy right now, But she didn't
say that those words shemis connects there, I get it,
gotta have it. Yeah, yeah, it's always been a fear thing.
Are you fearful at all? Now? Of I don't know
the next ten years? You know it's hard and once

(42:49):
you're fifty unless you're Kenny, Like, how do you make
a career go that long? And are you working towards
keep making good music? That's what Kenny has done. I mean,
he's fifty now, is he? I believe so I'm forty one, man,
I'm not really thinking about that. Uh god, I am
are you yesterday? I don't think about that. I don't.

(43:12):
I don't think I thought when I I didn't think
when I moved to Nashville at two, like where where
where am I going to be when I'm thirty five?
Like I just wasn't thinking that. I was just like,
I want to just go do this because I love it.
I think what I think about is what am I
going to do when I don't love it? That's what
it is. I don't necessarily think about what am I

(43:32):
gonna do when I'm fifty? Am I gonna still be saying? Well,
I'm never gonna grow up because people are gonna be
like you did now. But I think that's okay as
long as you as long as you're are doing it,
since then you're good. You're going like you're slower than
you were never gonna. I can't lie to people. I
can't lie to people what And most importantly, I think

(43:54):
when people will stop seeing me do what I do,
it's because I'm not I'm not loving it anymore. It's
not because I'm old, just I'll be like, I just
don't love it like I used to, and I'm not
gonna do something I don't love. I'd rather be around
the people I love and figure out a way to
live that life. Yeah, yeah, I do. There's days that
I question why, you know, why I do? What's the

(44:14):
hardest part about it? Um? I would definitely say the
hardest part about what we do I do Other artists,
UM would definitely be the the travel that the coming
home and um only having a couple of days to
not only do what you weren't able to get done

(44:36):
while you were gone for two days, but then be
the person you need to be for those two days
at your home, like for the person peeing people that
you love. So that's hard, um, But other than that,
there's also a beauty and newness every day, like meeting
someone new, seeing someone smiles like this year on tour,

(44:57):
like seeing these some of these kids who his parents.
Uh think about it, you know, like in a way
like when I got my record deal with twenty three. UM,
by the time I was thirty one, I had my
first child. So my little girl, it's ten. Now you
know that I'm forty one. UM. And there's a lot
of people out there that have listened to my music
that were my age two, that liked my music at

(45:18):
my age. They got married or they met each other
at my shows, and then they've had kids and now
they bring their like eight or ten year old out
to our shows and they're like, hey, this is Jake
going like this is the guy that was like we
met at his show or whatever, And that's kind of weird.
But there's a beauty to that, and I enjoy those
types of things. So for every little thing that I

(45:38):
don't love about it, there's so much that I do
that I think, WHOA. Like at the end of the yeah,
I think, WHOA, I've really grown up. WHOA I'm kind
of starting to slow down. What if I should just
do a new version of that. You could blue eyes
and silver hair. Were you're sitting knitting on a you know,

(46:02):
afghan over there? When you moved to town you got
a record twenty three? How how long until you got
a record deal? Did you get publishing deal? First? Was everything?
Was it all kind of in order like normal? Or
did you come to town? It was a little quicker?
It was? It was wild. Most people that know my story,
I would tell you that it's like kind of fairy

(46:23):
tale ish and a lot of like just like buzzworthy
things that I just prayed upon in a weird way.
I say prayed upon wrong word, Like I I used
to as as uh kind of trampolines to the next thing.
So I got a I got a interest rather quickly
when I moved to town, based off some friends that

(46:44):
helped me a lot because of what us written. So
I was writing. So I wrote a bunch of songs.
Nobody knew who I was. See that's the other thing.
There's a lot of the kids can learn coming to
this town. Like there's like nowadays we live in a
society where everything has to be blasted, you know what
I mean, Like look at me on TikTok, I have
this many followers, like the song is streaming this many things,

(47:06):
so and so like do you know this person? Like,
oh my god, they're blowing up. What people forget too
is there's like a real big beauty and no one
knowing anything about you until they need to do. You
know what I'm saying. So in a backwards way, I
was lucky enough to have someone in my life at
the time and still is Jimmy, who was like, hey man,
you're not going to be the guy like at the time,

(47:27):
you have to most of us to understand too. There
wasn't a TikTok or Twitter when I got my record deal,
So there wasn't that type of sensation of people already
knowing me before they ever met me. Like you kind
of got known by your music so or by your
reputation in town. Like people you come to Nashville, you
go hang out of the bars, you meet people, You
write songs, people have opinions of you, and if it's good,
maybe you can get some good momentum in town. If

(47:48):
it's not good, you're gonna struggle before anybody ever even
hears your songs. Right, So Jimmy would say Jimmy Ritchie
is my buddy who produced my first two albums and
helped me with my music, and we wrote everything on
the first two records. But he was like, hey, man,
I'd rather you come into my house every day and
night and let's just write songs and build a catalog
of awesome things with other awesome writers and get a
good thing going, and you build positive things, then go

(48:11):
be a twenty three year old kid down on Broadway
or wherever, just like you know, doing stupid stuff. And
so thankfully to him, because I probably would have done
exactly that. Um, I was smarter about it, and I
just wrote a bunch of songs. I had some momentum.
I wrote a song that Kenny Chesney was going to record, yeah,
and uh then I put it on my my album,

(48:32):
that first album. But because of that and getting ahold
by Kenny Chesney and people wondering who I was, I
got a lot of momentum, got a record deal. I
got a publishing deal that was just like stupid money
at the time for what. I didn't even have a
record deal yet, and so they gave me some crazy
stupid money um for me, at least at the time
for me going like, yeah, right, like my life is
gonna change like overnight. Um, and so it did it

(48:56):
freaking change. And then I went out immediately with Kenny
Chesney and then Brooks and Done and Alan Jackson and
it was off to the races, man. And I'm not
so sure at the time that I was ready for
all that, even though mentally I told myself I was,
but like, just like from a physical standpoint and actual
ability to do it, like, I don't know that I
was ready, but I like, again back to what I

(49:18):
said earlier, put me in a situation where I have
to either swim or drown, and I'm gonna I wanna
swim until you drown, until I drowned. Shot drown is
over right, So there's death and dance or swim or drowned.
That was a weird The swimmer drown thing is a
good you know. And you know, I don't know. That's

(49:40):
why I went to see what would be the dancing
because I'd like to use it sometime. You know, I
get shot in the leg, I don't know, dance or
don't dance. Yeah, I just go and swim. Well, I figured,
you know, since you're a dancer, no opposite of that,
I should have not danced, right, would you ever do
that show? Not now, not now? Before even before you

(50:01):
ever did it, I was like no way. I'd have
people ask me like, hey, you want to do this.
I'm like, no, I'm good. You know I could not
do that, So I'm proud that you could. Well, I'm
a swimmer more than a dancer. You made a statement
online after after the hospital visit and you said I

(50:23):
haven't slept one a long time. That's what i'd come
to find out after going to the hospital. That's my
only issue. I literally do not sleep. Anything that's happened
since then. What was that about? That was about me
not sleeping? Man, I just wasn't sleeping. I was losing
a lot of weight. Um. I was probably just like
getting all I don't know, it's weird because I'm not
really been doing anything any different since then. Sometimes you

(50:44):
just need people to tell you're okay. Really, is that
what they told you? You're okay? Yeah? Everybody's like they were. Yeah,
they were like they made me feel better than I
did by just telling me things that I don't know
that I needed. They were just telling me honest things
like I'd convinced myself. I was, you know, diet, like
I'm gonna die out here on the road. Like I'm
out here, you know, doing this all the time and

(51:05):
I'm missing little things back home, and um my family
has been affected by it, and I don't want this
to be the way that life's supposed to be, Like
this is what I love? Like why is it the
thing I love? Um, it's like that song by Alan Jackson,
you know, everything I love, I want to have to
give it up because everything I love is killing me.
Uh That's how I felt like. I felt like I

(51:25):
was living in Alan Jackson song. So whenever you find
out that something isn't really wrong with you, does that
change your perspective? Do you? Did you live a different way?
Like was there? Was it lighter? Yeah? I think so.
I don't know. I think Erica would tell you that.
I just I think, if anything, when I found what
I found out was is um kind of what Caitlin

(51:46):
was saying earlier, like just kind of like relax a
little bit and everything's gonna be okay. Like don't you
can convince yourself such a negative things when that's all
you stress on and harp on. But when you're like, Hey,
nothing I worry about over the next fifteen or twenty minutes,
which two personally, sometimes to all of us, can seem
like a lifetime. Whatever those next you could spend those

(52:07):
next fifteen or twenty minutes just doing something different, being
finding something else to be happy about. Do you feel
like you're a happier person now than five years ago
than five years ago? I hope so three years ago? Yeah,
I mean, I hope I'm happier today than I was yesterday.
Do you feel like you are purposefully happy? I feel
like I'm still figuring everything out, man, I don't. I

(52:28):
feel like I'm still like I'm forty one, but I
still feel like that twenty two three year old kid
that drove here, Like I know I can do this,
I'm excited to do it, Like canna you still that guy?
Like feel more positive I still am to me than
in past years? Yeah, I mean, because well, thankful thanks.

(52:53):
I don't. I don't. I'm not. I don't intentionally wake
up every day and go like I'm gonna be way
more positive today, uh, which I probably should try to
preach that. Um. I think people listen to my music
and the type of music I put out would think that, like, man,
this guy's barefoot and in the sunshine all the time,
and he's just like he's a dude, like and I am,

(53:14):
but I have just like everyone else, you know, they've
got things that I'm just trying to be better at,
trying to try to learn something each day. So we
talked about the master class stuff like I try to.
I looked at Erica this morning and was like, hey,
we like, like we have a lot of friends right
now going through like a lot of crazy stuff and um,
and that's what even Tyler Hubbard not drop his name
again said to me at lunch and he's like, how's
everything with you? Man? Everything good? And I'm like, yeah,

(53:35):
it's awesome, Like life is great, man. And I say
that because just this morning I told Erica was like
so many friends going through so much stuff right now
that like we're not and life is good. And that's
when you really have to like when life is good
is when you really need to be thankful for it.
Then when life isn't and you're it's like when you're
sick and you're you were trying to remember what it

(53:56):
felt like to feel good. And so I feel really
good right now, and I want to remember what this
feels like, and I want that to spread throughout my
family as well, and hopefully telling other people to man,
life is great, it's awesome. That also helps them because
nobody wants to hear someone say, hey, man, how's how's everything?
And then you sit there and listen to them just

(54:16):
you know, nobody wants to hear that more front lobe,
front lobe all day. Baby, let's go. That's the that's
the thing. Stay in that front lobe, man, the front
because the front lobe does wet. Front lobe, from what
I've learned, is is where you know your majority of
children really live. And until they progressively you know, through

(54:38):
experiences and things like that, you tend to live more
with the way we're wired as humans in a more
back little brain front lobe, being more joyful, creative, spontaneous,
care free, all those which are great qualities. Rear being
more protective, um anxious, the things that we don't really

(54:59):
need eat in our lives. So you can have the
choice where you kind of want to live. You do
not have Jaco on dot com, but you have Jaco
and dot net. Yes, what's the deal. What will they
not sell it to or are they asking an insurmount
of amount of money I'd rather I don't know. I
don't never really thought of it that way. I just
knew that when I couldn't get the calm, I was like,
I'm cool with NET. You know what I mean, I'm

(55:20):
about that NET. It sounds front low to me. Yeah,
So I was cool with it. I never really overthought
it like that. So you asked me, I don't know that.
I've forever you know. Now he goes backlob Now that's
a little viral club to the manager, why do I
not have Jaco and dot Com? I got a couple
more questions for you. Uh. There was a story about
you in the Tennessee in because there was a restaurant

(55:43):
and Kaylin and I were having lunch. We saw a
big line coming out of a place where were you lunch?
We're like, one, what's going on over there? And we
found out it was a place that was closing after
I don't know how many years, and they were closing
because they wanted to clothes, they wanted to retire, and
they were doing these stories about it leading up to it,
and there was a story and you are an interview
for the story. It wasn't you putting it out there,
the owner of the story. And I'm gonna have you
tell it, but don't but don't, oh man, just like

(56:04):
literally tell it. I'm begging you to tell the story
as is. Uh. The story was about you helping them
out years and years ago. It never came out until
she told the story. Can you tell me that story? Yeah? Um,
and I told you this. That's why I was so
so flattered by it really. Uh. And there's a great
George Steinbrenner quote that I saw on the wall when
I went to Yankee Stadium one time. It says like, uh,

(56:25):
you do good things for other people, but if someone
else finds out about it, then you did it for
the wrong reasons. Um, Like you just you're supposed to
do get things for people because it's the thing to do,
not for for the people to talk about it. And um,
So this particular scenario, when I moved to town, which
is a great kind of steguay off of what we
all talked about earlier, I would go to Arnold's on

(56:48):
Eighth Avenue because it kind of felt like home to me,
like my mom always made like home cooking. And I
grew up that way down home, down south with mym
with my grandma, my granddad. Nanny was a good cook
still is uh. Um. And so I'd go in there
and have like rare roast beef and mashed potatoes and
gravy and whatever. And I got to know the people
that owned Arnold's, which has been there since I think

(57:09):
the fifties, um, and everybody from Dolly Parton to Charlie uh,
you know, John Prine, all kinds of folks going there, um.
And I just loved it. It's like meeting three, meaning
you go in there and grab your your tray and
walk down the line and grab the food that you
want to grab. And so I would do that and uh,
Jordan's speeths calling me should I answer this? He did

(57:32):
this to me on an interview one. What's up? What's up?
Telling me with me? I am very random. I am
in the middle of an interview right now, and I'm
with Bobby Bones actually on doing a radio like a
set a podcast. And I said, and my phone was ringing,
I was gonna send it to voicemail, and then a

(57:54):
lot like the last time you were on an interview,
I guess always like Jaco, it's calling your phone, so
I said, I had to answer. So are you just
excited about our playing possibilities coming up? I'm just really
excited that we're finally going to win the prom version.
I'm going to we are, Yeah, we are. Yeah, I'm
going off. I will I will, I will buzz I'll

(58:18):
buzz you back. All right, sounds good to see it.
See every buddy, he's right here. See you man. I
never heard of him anyway. That's so cool man, Like
you ever, like you know what I mean, Like that's cool.
Like I know that he's even our partner, but like
sometimes I'm like, are we really partners? We've buddies? You know.
That's cool to get a call. It's awesome, dude. I
mean I played with him because you were like, hey,

(58:40):
you should play with them, and you call it Jordan,
You're like, hey, awesome, dude. He's a great So you're
at this restaurant. At this restaurant, Uh, and I meet
you know, Rose Arnold, who's who runs it, and her
son's um khalil Man's France. She has two daughters. I
got to know them for years, and Uh, one of

(59:01):
the times I was in there visiting. Mons was going
through Uh had like some type of a brain tumor.
I think it was. I had to have surgery like
on his on his skull to remove this or do
some sort of procedure. And they were really worried. She
was worried about how they were going to fly with
the pressure. And and I don't know, just I have
a tour bus. I wasn't thinking or anything like just

(59:21):
take my tour bus. I'm not on the road, take
it up there. My drive will pick you guys up tomorrow.
Take you there, bring you back whatever you need, like,
just say And they did. I don't guess two ten maybe,
I guess two probably. Um. And they were always so
sweet about it, you know, like I go in there
like I always did, and like there'll be times where

(59:43):
they would just be like, hey, we wanna take care
of your lunch or something like you don't have to
do that, like it's not a big deal. Um. They
just always treated me like their family. UM. And anyways,
it was really flattering to think that as many people
they've had come through that restaurant, as many scenarios and
the types of folks that have come through there, and
all the incredible stories I'm sure they have to share

(01:00:04):
for what that restaurant became to people, like a second home, um,
a place of comfort. Like to think that when I
saw that article that day, um, like it got to
me because there are times where you wonder if like uh,
when you do good for people, like if theyre you

(01:00:25):
don't do it, like I said, because but you do
it because you hope that they remember the kind of
person you are. And uh, it just made my day.
I was like, dang, like they could have talked about
anything over the last fifty years of this restaurant and
she just happened to talk about me doing that for them,
um and to me to be able to be remembered
for that kind of thing. Forget everyone else knowing because

(01:00:47):
I never wanted, never cared for anyone else to know,
but did admit enough to her and their family that
they remembered me like that and not like she didn't
say like this guy was a singer, you know whatever,
Like it was just someone that did something for them
and their family. Like that's what I that's that's my
coolest story about Nashville so far, like people of what
people remember me for, So that was cool. Man, Yeah, yeah,

(01:01:10):
it's cool. Uh drinking you are still sober? Yes? How
has that been a change in your life? That's the
last question, By the way, It's been awesome. It's been
really good. It's been cool too, because I've encouraged a
lot of people friends of mine to do the same
that I think I've seen me And they're like, dang, man, like, given,
I haven't seen you drinking like over a year and
a half and uh, and I'm like, yeah, you don't

(01:01:32):
need it. So I feel way better and make better decisions. Um,
you can still. I mean I still drink alcoholic like
not excuse me alcoholic. I still drink non alcoholic beers,
which I enjoy. There's so many companies and now like
this athletic beer company that makes uh, non alcoholic like
I p A s and things, So I can still
get the idea of I never had a drinking problem,
but when I did drink, I just wasn't a good person.

(01:01:52):
I don't want to be that guy anymore. So now
I'll just drinking some non alcoholic I p A s
every now and then or something. Bud Bud why eights
and uh called bud Whites is that mates. Well, yeah,
so they're the non alcoholic Budweiser's coming a white can.
It is called bud Whites. Well I call them bud Whites.
That's funny because there's blue ones and red ones and

(01:02:14):
then the all white ones. People would see me drinking them,
They're like, what are those? I'm like, they're not alcoholic.
The Bud. I was like, get you a bud White baby,
Like I actually feel like like Budweiser needs me. Like
I'd be like, yo, there's something everybody talks about, like
I want to have fun this super Bowl. Grab a
Bud Light, you know what I mean. It's like, you
want to still have fun super Bowl, Get a Bud White,
like you know what I mean? Drive home afterwards, not

(01:02:36):
worry about it. Okay, you guys, get tickets, go to
Jake O and dot Net. In the intro, we talked
about the single, which is I love the song. Hey,
thank you, thank you for playing it. H and that's good,
thanks too. Things we need an hour over an hour
and to my trainers outside and I gotta go work out,
sweet good And I feel like with your blessing, I

(01:02:57):
can now wear my jumpsuit. I love it, like you know,
it's one of those things where you could have been like,
why are you wearing a jumpsuit? Dude? Exactly. But a
lot of people I'm noticing now that I'm wearing it,
They're like, I kind of want to wear one too.
I got actually got one for Erica. We saw one.
It's Target, and I was like, you should wear this,
be on that jumpsuit team, and she didn't like the
way it fit. It's the red, but if it were

(01:03:21):
another color, I could wear it. I have a many statements, Yeah,
if this is striped or orange, I probably wouldn't wear
it's orange, you finally picking up litter, Yeah, yeah, or striped,
you know, being Yeah, but this is kind of like
Carhart color. It's kind of nice. It's comfortable. I recommend it.
I'm just jealous. Enjoy your workout all right at Jaco

(01:03:41):
and Official follow him the new singles up there, down here,
and go to Jaco and dot Net to get tickets
to the show Travis Denning. Our body will be out there,
and Travis is really good and active, a lot of energy.
Guy can play only left a guitar, I can play
in town. He's the only guy that's around that brings
his I can go, let me play something. Otherwise nobody's
left handed and we get treated like prize. That's right.
He's clapping for himself. He's ready to go. All right.

(01:04:03):
Thank you, Thank you, Caitlin, thank you, Mike, thank you Erica,
thank you all the troops. Thank you too, boy Scouts.
Thank you to Ms Hagger Smith's big impluence in my life.
I want to thank Coach Gandalf and that's all. Good night, everybody,

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#381 - Jake Owen Returns to talk Sobriety, Acting and Health Updates + The Origin Story of His Stage Name + Why Lending His Tour Bus to Get Cancer Patient to Minnesota Is The Highlight of His Career

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