Hillary Scott (@hillaryscottla) of Lady A sat down with Bobby Bones to take a look back on how far her and the band have come. She shares the untold story of Lady A and how she got denied a record deal before meeting fellow band members Charles Kelley and Dave Haywood. Hillary, who also has a solo career as a Christian music artist, revealed how her faith has impacted how she raises her kids and opens up about writing a song about having a miscarriage. Hillary also talks about how she had to navigate the music industry without people thinking she was riding the coattails of her mom, Linda Davis. This episode is also very personal to Bobby because he shares how Lady A influenced him to move to Nashville and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I just have always thrived in collaboration. I would like
to think I could have, but I think I would
have felt so alone. And I just really enjoyed collaborating
with the two of them.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode four point thirty two with Hillary Scott from Lady A.
We had Hillary and during the pandemic, but she was
on a zoom near A. Yeah, and I know Hillary
and she's awesome as a person, like just the greatest.
But we had never had her in. We had Dave in,
We've had Charles in, but never had Hillary. I really
enjoyed this. It was easy with her because I really
(00:41):
like her. I know where She's the easiest person to
talk with and talk to. You can follow her on Instagram.
Hillary Scott LA as in Lady Innebellum, not as in
Los Angeles, Hillary Scott LA. Their new single is called
Love You Back, Here you Go. What do you think
that song's about? He had to guess, letting go of
(01:05):
the past. Love You Back explores the idea that while
memories of an old flame can bring some comfort, they
can also keep one from moving forward. Well, a lot
of times we romanticize things that are done because we
can create scenarios, because you can't say we're wrong. Yeah, So,
if you're listening right now, stop thinking to your eggs.
Move on.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
He's a freaking loser.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Move on to that new guy. He's not as much
of a loser. He's still kind of a loser, not
as much, you know, Leave your wife, leave your husband. No,
don't listen to that voice, lady. A Top five streaming
songs of all time. Let's roll through these real quick.
Number five American Honey.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Here's a whisper.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Number four, bartender, number three, what if I never get
over you? If I'm shy? Number two just a kiss,
just a kiss on your hands. And that's number two.
I thought it'd be like four or five. Number one,
(02:02):
need you now? So? Hillary Scott born in Nashville, Tennessee.
Lenna Davis country music artist. She's sang with Riba, She
toured with three but for a long time, and then
she do you have a song they did together? I don't.
It's a very famous song. Okay, you don't have right now,
but in Mike's gonna put it in a post where
(02:24):
it feels like we have it. Now. Here's that love
you there you go, look enjoy I did here. She
is Hillary Scott from Lady A. Hello Hillary, Hello Bob.
I didn't know because we had planned this before and
we were just talking. I thought, because last year was
just weird, because I was like, at RSV, you ever
(02:46):
had RSV? I don't think my baby's got that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, worried about my kids.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Then I thought, am I a baby? You know? Do
I still have uh? And then you said no, it
was you that was sick. So then I remembered, yeah,
And I'm glad that both of us could do this again,
me too, and.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We don't have to socially distanced because we're both.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, yes, I feel like Iron Man at this point.
I've had it all. I've had every disease. And so
you mentioned my dog too a minute to goo Eller,
who is the dog we adopted. I think the last
time we probably saw each other was at the dog place.
It was we won't say where, dog daycare.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, ran into each other because we do. We live,
we're neighbors. Basically, I'm like, not far from you. And
I remember meeting Ella because I had heard you talk
about her on the show, and then she peed on
my shoes and.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I was so embarrassed. I was so embarrassed. But the
only thing that saved me was we were at a
dog place and I knew you had a dog. And
most dogs I've heard, and I don't know if this
is true, pee they.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Do all dogs.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I would think, okay, great dogs, and she's excited to
see and she peed on your shoes, and I remember
looking at your shoes being like, please don't be red
bottoms or please don't.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
But yeah, if I'm picking up my dog in red bottoms,
that's on me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, that's fair too. It is again so wonderful to see.
We had Stephen Curtis Chapman over here recently, and I
do a lot of these hundreds and hundreds, and I
enjoy actually sitting down and being able to talk for
an hour with somebody as opposed to eight minutes where
you're going project this, that boom, goodbye. And so I
performed at the Opry with Stephen a bunch of times,
(04:16):
not together, but while he was on there, and we'd
become friendly. But I listened to him so much as
a kid, and I was so it was so exciting
for me to spend time with him and actually realize
he's like that even in long doses.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Absolutely do you know him, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What is he like as a friend, because I just
want to be his best friend?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh my gosh, sincere and kind and just the wisdom
I received from him anytime we have a conversation. I mean,
we go back far because we called called him. I
think it was November, late November, early December of twenty eleven,
and we were getting married, Chris and I, and we
(04:59):
were like, do we want to just play music in
our ceremony? And we kind of eloped. We did a
little bit of a modified elopement because we were originally
going to be married in April of twelve, and then
we ended up pushing it to January of twelve. And
so we called him and just said, hey, would you
and your wife Mary Beth want to fly up to
up state New York and wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Down the road?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, it was in up state New York, right outside
of Albany. And he said yes, and he and Mary
Beth made kind of a little getaway out of it,
and we spent time together over that wedding weekend and
then just became such good friends. And then we actually,
you know, got to hang with he and his family
and their musical family and just so much in common
(05:45):
that way.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And then.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Not long after that, I made the record with my
family with Ricky Skaggs producing and Stephen sang on it,
and so we've just kind of continued to be friends.
Marybeth actually just text me a couple like we and
a half ago about getting together for dinner, and we
just are such supporters and what they're doing with Show
Hope in the organization they do, you know, grants, I'm
(06:08):
sure he talked about it, grants for families that are
looking to adopt, and just a lot of alignment of
heart and he's just so family forward and I love.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That about them.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I also loved that he was honest about a story
where he was like, yeah, he's a huge country music fan. Yeah,
you know, he didn't really manipulate his story to fit
his exact brand. His brand is what his story allowed
him to kind of pivot into. And still a fan
of country music, but he's like, you know, I felt
the need and the calling to sing for Jesus. Yes,
(06:41):
And a lot of times, as you know, we have
to build narratives so it's easy for people that are
consuming us to remember, and he didn't do that, and
I was so grateful for him to tell the story
like that. And there have been a few few Christian
artists that have come in because I grew up. I
grew up a church Baptist church, mounta Pine Baptist, and
(07:01):
we weren't even that hardcore, like we could dance.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That is a very.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well in Arkansas, we had a Baptist church and we
could dance. And I went to church a lot for safety.
You know, there was a bit of food insecurity. How
I grew up, and there was always food on Sundays.
There was always Wednesday night somewhere to go. And so
like Chris Tomlin is another example who I love that dude.
And I asked him if there was pressure And this
(07:28):
is going to lead to the question I'm asking you.
I asked him if there was pressure because and my
wife when I you know, she's not super into the
industry or she's not in it at all, but she
doesn't like care that much. She was like Christoma, we
sang all his hymn to church, and I was like,
well, well you just sing Rock of Ages basically, you know,
(07:49):
all of ours were him. Yes, But I asked him
if there was a pressure on him to be so
godlike because that's how everyone knows him, because he's a
normal human. And I'd found myself talking about a Christmas
party we were having and I invited him over and
it was like, not real money, but we were we
were had Vegas set up and what we were doing
(08:10):
was donating to whomever won that night to their charity.
And I was going to invite him and I was like,
I'm not inviting him. It's gambling. And it was exactly
what he told me that he did not want people
to do to him. And so then I said, Chris,
I'm so sorry I didn't invite you. Now I'm inviting
you again because it's fun. So he lives with this
wonderful but constant pressure for people to think he has
to be godlike all the time. Do you feel the
(08:32):
pressure on you as a public person and even a Christian,
an open Christian to always present we'll just say a
good mood.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh, I mean there's definite pressure, for sure, I think.
But to me, what I am so grateful for about
my relationship with God and my faith is that there's
a scripture that talks about when we are weak, he
is strong. So in our weaknesses, vulnerability, we actually connect deeper.
(09:03):
We see how much we need him, Others see that
we don't have it all together. I mean, I've heard
it said so many times and it's so profound, and
it's like church needs to be more like a hospital,
like then a country club where you show up all
buttoned up and presenting a certain way. It's like, no,
we're all broken wanting to come together for the same reason,
(09:26):
to receive the peace and the comfort and the grace
and mercy of God, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And so I do definitely feel that pressure.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But ironically, when you do share publicly or privately the
hard things you're going through, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
When you really connect with absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean truly, Like that is where I've had the
most just oh, the most rewarding conversations, the most rewarding
DMS conversations with you know, people on Instagram. I mean,
it's just so to not be afraid to say what's
really going on.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I can ask you what and I'll share one with
you too, so you don't feel alone here, but can
ask you, like an example of that something that you
would have spoken about that was difficult for you because
I felt a lot of shame in mind, but I
didn't realize that other people were writing alongside me with
their own version of it. So what would an example
of that be for you?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I mean, one of the biggest was something that I
still grieve every day, which is the miscarriage we had
in between Isley and my twin girls. And just how
as I.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Walked through and Chris and I walked through that experience,
there was a big moment of like, are we going
to share this? Are we going to But then when
the only way I knew to pursue healing and just
kind of keep moving was to write about it became
a song. And then it was a song that I knew.
I was like, I think people really need to hear this,
(10:54):
and so.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It was.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It was that experience and one that continues to come
up to this day. You know, that record came out,
that song came out in twenty sixteen, and I still
feel like when people come up to me, whether it's
in the grocery store or at to meet and greet,
it's always it's always brought up.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Were you surprised that that is what people attached through
so strongly and that people still attached to it even
seven years or so later.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I think it doesn't surprise me because one in four
women one and four pregnancies, not women one and four
pregnancies and in miscarriage.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
So the statistics are so.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
High that and not a lot of people know that
that's how often it happens. So that's a whole lot
of people, it's a whole lot of women, that's a
whole lot of families. So I think that specific experience
in the women and the families that I hear from
who've experienced that exact thing, it isn't shocking.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The other stories around the song where it's met others
in other ways, in different hardships in their life, those always,
I mean, they all touch my heart. They all just
humble me and are very very priceless to me to
be invited into those stories. But some of the ones
that are about other things are the ones that like
(12:20):
lay me.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Out in the floor. When I wrote my first book,
I was I don't know how to write a book.
I mean I'd written some stuff, but never a book.
And I thought no one would want to read a
book for me anyway, And I thought I'm just gonna
write everything and then whatever, I'm too ashamed of I'm
going to pull out, but I'm going to as and
you probably deal with this writing you know, a song,
(12:42):
a three minute version of this, but one hundred times.
And so I wrote this book and it was a
lot of mind securities, a lot of what we all
suffer through. But I wrote about my mom, a lot
of my mom's not alive anymore. She died when she
was forty seven or so. She died from basically drug abuse,
drug and alcohol abuse. And it had gotten so bad
with their and it was some heavy drugs like meth.
And I'm from Arkansas and it's it's poverty there and
(13:08):
like I never quite understood until I got older, but
my mom had got so wrapped up in it that
she would call and need money, and you know, she
had started to go, well, I'm gonna do porn and
when your mom calls and tells you that, and I
was and I remember writing that story and I was
so I was so ashamed, and I was going to
(13:30):
take it out. And I don't know why I didn't,
because I never had the thought, I'll leave it in,
it'll connect. I don't know how it lasted and landed,
but I'm telling you when I'll tour and do stand
up you want to know, people talk to me about
how it's not exactly the same, but everybody will come up.
Not everybody, but I like people come up and go,
(13:52):
I'm so glad you said this, because nobody says that
addiction affects them in ways like this. Yes, and even now.
I mean I wrote that book six seven years ago, Like,
I couldn't believe that that was the connector. Yeah, I thought,
I'll write some funny stories, people will enjoy it, I'll
(14:12):
write a but of everything that I wrote, I was
most ashamed of a lot of the stuff that I
had gone through in that part of my life and
my world. But that was the that was the really
the connector of all and I couldn't believe it. But
it also shows me that the more raw and open
you are, the more you're actually relatable. And I did
(14:34):
not think that was the case.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And and and I think the other beautiful benefit for
you sharing it, and or at least for me for
sharing it, is the freedom you feel because I there
was something in me with my story, like if I
had withheld that information, I would have really felt like
I was moving through my life in not the most
(14:56):
honest way that I could, and that I would be
numbing some part of my myself and that just didn't
feel authentic. And so as scary as it was, I
felt free.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Did you feel when you were writing, when you're doing
the music, because this is a bit how I felt too,
it like I had Reliving it was kind of hard, yes.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yes, absolutely well in writing it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean I was in the middle of miscarring when
i wrote the song, so it was very much like
I'm in this right now talking about it right now.
So as it got recorded and then the times that
i've I've performed it, we're saying it in church. It's
definitely been a different experience remembering it, still feeling it deeply,
(15:43):
but not like I was.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
When we wrote it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I may have chills, like on the back of my
neck just talking about it again and also talking about
it with someone who understands what it's like to share
that going how is this going to be interpreted? How
are people going to feel about me? But then you
realize everybody's got their own everybody's got their.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Own, Yes, yes they do, we all do, and that,
I think is is the great equalizer of being human.
Is we all have all have our hardships and our struggles,
and we all want to be loved and feel like
we belong.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
My dog beed on your shoes. She did did, and
I thought today, just to go full circle, I would
pee on your shoes before you left. So because I
told her, I said, Ella, I'm gonna pay on her
shoes today, because I know you feel bad. That way,
I can pee too, and She'll be like, you're with me,
and you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Know what, I'll leave them for you, how about that?
And then I'll come back later and pick them up.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
On this one, I went to an allergist, if you
I guess late last week. I didn't really been don
an allurgist before. It's kind of like a fancy thing,
didn't you know? I didn't go to a lot of allergists.
But I had an infection in my sinus, infection so
bad that it got in my teeth, in my ears,
and I did not know that's what it was. I
thought I had some kind of tooth pain. So I
(16:56):
go and my Dennis is like, you got nothing wrong
with your teeth. Then we do a different extrac goes, dude,
you hit you your cavity is completely full and you know,
like you, my voice is what I have, yes, and so,
and I lose there about twice a year because of allergies.
And so my doctor says, go to this allergist. But
she tells me, I'm severely allergic to dogs. No, yeah,
(17:17):
I gotta kill them both today now never I will
just die. I'll just die of allergies. I'm gonna I
have to go every week now and get allergie shots
three a week. But the thing, the thing that I love, yes,
I'm allergic too.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
That's hard.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I mean there are kids, I mean they really. I
mean we have one dog and he is a ninety
two pound sheep of doodle. Yeah, and he's awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But they are. They are so they're a part of
our family. They really are.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I mean I love my my three girls and I
love my fur baby.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I mean it's I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, it sucks. And we don't have kids yet. And
if you don't mind, like to ask a couple kid questions. Sure,
because biting a man. Until I was almost forty, I
didn't really have a serious girl I have that until
so I met my wife and it was like, oh,
I didn't know that it was supposed to be. It's
not always easy, but I didn't know that it was
supposed to be this easy. When it's good. Yeah, Like
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it's just kind of like it's like a click, like
it just fits right. And so I meet her and
it's awesome and we get married and you know, she
wants to have kids. I want to have kids eventually.
But like I said, I didn't have a models like
my parents didn't. They weren't together. I didn't know my
daddy left when I was five, or sick my mom,
you know, passed away. So I'm scared to death to
have kids. And then but what I wonder is, and
(18:36):
I ask you, because you're a little younger than I am,
but how old is your oldest what?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Ten already I know Isley's ten, and then my twin
God's crazy six at the end of January.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay, So I feel like if and when we have
kids when, because she's not pregnant now, no articles, no,
I had lies. I promise you she's not pregnant right now.
I don't think she is. It seems like it's a
lot of work.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It is, but the most rewarding one.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But is it really or is it because you've been
told you have not you have to say that, but
you're supposed to feel that way. No, No, it is
so I'm very selfish, not about giving stuff, but about
I've only ever been me and trying to first just
survive as myself and then to create for myself and
then for others. I feel like I'm going to have
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a kid in either a be like my dad who left.
I don't think I'm going to do that, but like
there's that part of me is there, or I'm just
gonna be annoyed because i have to give up all
my life and kids are just a lot of work. Like,
talk me, not down, but talk some logic into me.
I know you will have to ask you this question
that I know you're not gonna lie to me.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
No, I mean, well it is.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I mean I think marriage is a really you in
a way. If you are pursuing a healthy marriage, there's
a part of you that has to die.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
To yourself every day for your wife. I have there's
the parts.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Of me that that leak out on my husband. If
I don't, if I don't keep myself in check, we suffer. So,
you know, I think that's why marriage is such a
beautiful kind of place to start with learning how to
put someone else before yourself. But here's the thing with children,
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They are from you, and it is different. I mean,
it is so humbling. I mean I was in an
argument with my five year old this morning, trying to
get her dressed for school and having a moment. And
I didn't say this out loud to her. I never would,
but I was like, I don't know what to do
in this moment with you. Like I'm really struggling, Like
(20:50):
you're hearing one thing I'm saying another, You're just totally
tuning me out eventually, and it's frustrating, but oh my gosh,
it is.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It is the most unbelievable gift.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And I was just talking to my sister in law,
she's visiting with her husband and my niece, and we
were just having this conversation of how much more you
as you become a parent every day is not just
a combination of putting yourself, you know, like trying to
(21:24):
be as selfless as possible, taking care of yourself, but
also doing the work to be the best parent, to
show up for your child, but it's also a continual
surrender of control because there are certain things that you
can control, like you know, when you feed them, now
if they eat it all, Like there's all these different
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things that you can control, but then there's a whole
lot that you just have to let go. And that
is not to bring this back, but it is the
compass of my life, my story.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Without my faith, I would.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Be the worst mother and wife because I would need
to just grasp everything like their lives and mind depended
on it. And so when there's a surrender and faith
in the process in the story, and a faith in
God to that He's in control and I don't have
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to be, it just helps me breathe.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And I'm scared to death, Like I'm scared, and.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know what that says to me.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It speaks to the unbelievable heart you have that you're
taking it seriously, like there's something really healthy in fear.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Or that I know I'm gonna screw it up. That's
why I tell my wife, it's like I'm afraid I'm
gonna mess this up so bad, Like why I'm already
I struggle being a good husband at times because just
gone or I'm not you know, we've be married two years,
been together four or so whatever it is like that
to me was hard because I've never had somebody that
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I cared as much about that I would actually let
it affect me to where it was bothersome that they
weren't feeling good. I never had that. I haven't now
and i've definitely, but I feel like I'm like twelve
in that development. Career wise, I'm like one hundred and ten.
(23:17):
I'm Methuselaman. I mean, let's go. I got a long
gray beard. I've been through it all. But like in
that relationship part of my life, like that was that
that is still developing. I read books on it. Yeah,
I never thought it would I only want to read
like sports books. But now I just read a book
Wired for Love, which is like a book about the brain.
And I never thought i'd be that guy. And I
(23:39):
never think I'm gonna read kid's books, but oh my god,
but I do.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And you write them.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh I did. I didn't write a kids book. I
did write a children's book. Yes. I just got in
from from Vegas like an hour ago. I was doing
the CES convention out there and speaking a couple of places.
And while I was there, there was this really small
show that Weezer came out to play as of Weezer fans.
I did not know until I got there that was happening.
(24:04):
And I'm right at the stage and I have no
phone out. Someone had recorded me and I got the
video of it. I don't have a phone out, watch
and I'm just I'm in it and I'm enjoying it,
and I'm singing every Weezer song because that was one
of my favoritess why we're my glasses? Honestly? Yes was.
I thought Rivers Cuomo was the coolest dude. He was
a nerd like I was, and I was also blind.
And so I'm watching Weezer and I'm being a fan.
(24:24):
I rarely get to be a fan just because of
the industry that we're in. When is the last time
you got to be a real fan of something in
the arts? It doesn't have to be music, but where
you went and you just got to go, I'm not
Hillary from Lady A, I'm not Hillary the singer. I'm
just here to enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
The first thing that pops up in my mind when
you ask me that question. So we started our tour,
the Request Line Tour, in April of last year, we
did two nights at the Rhymen, which was such a
sweet and daunting.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Scary and also really rewarding way to start the tour.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But we played a Friday and a Saturday night, and
then on Sunday night, a friend of mine who's a
Christian artist named Brandon Lake played the Ryman, And so
I was at the Rhyman three nights in a row,
and that night there was something about the timing of it.
I think, after giving so much of myself to these
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two shows in our hometown, in this iconic venue, getting
to go and sit and just experience something that was
so inspirational and so beautiful with music that I love
and I sing in my car all the time, that
to me was the and I took my little sister
Riley with me.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That was probably the last time.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
In the recent months that I felt like I was
just fully soaking up the experience.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So that would be do you feel like people or
were you able to separate yourself from people pointing and staring?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, I was so lost
in that show.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's hard to call it a show too, It's like
a worship experience.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But I was so caught up in it. I don't
even I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't even know if I noticed anybody else, to
be honest, I mean, and that night it was so cool.
Thomas Rahtt came out and they performed a song together.
It's a song called Talking to Jesus, and it's this
really beautiful story song about prayer and family that pray
for you, and it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
But I if they were looking, I didn't care.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I mean, that's how free I felt.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It was like I didn't have my you know, my
phone wasn't out, it wasn't It was just free, kind
of like you explained.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And I was watching myself sing along to a song
with no phone in my hand, and I was like, man,
I wish it could be that guy more. It's my fault.
I'm not. Yeah, yeah, it's my fault. I'm not. Sometimes
it's a little harder. It's hard to go eat and
people record us eating. My wife hates it especially like that.
But you know, but I shouldn't let that sour me
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to allow myself to have like great experiences. And I
saw me and I posted on my Instagram because I'm
just like rare me no phone and someone recorded me
and it was awesome and I almost didn't recognize that
version of me to just be in that moment. Another
thing that's kind of odd about Nashville is we rarely
get to see our friends do their thing that they
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are celebrated for professionally, because I'm gone on a lot
of weekends, right, And also so are my friends. And
if they are here, they're rarely here. You're like, you
guys are rarely here, right. And so Brett Elderd is
one of my top three best friends in the whole world.
And my wife and Brett and myself we probably hang
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out two to three times a week, like we're that close, right.
But she didn't know. She knew he was a singer.
She had never seen him sing, and we go to
his Christmas show Lash year. She's like, I'm nervous, Like
why she goes because if this is cringey, I gotta
tell them because I've never seen him sing. And Brett
is a very is very shy, very much a mental
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health advocate and deals with anxiety as do. I think
that's kind of why we bonded at first. But he
comes out and he starts singing and I look over
and she's like crying because here's this person that we
know that's doing the thing they were meant to do,
and she's getting emotional. Said, I guess that's not Cringey.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Hunt All hang tight.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back
on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Not being able to see our friends do their things
and to see them sometimes it's I'm kind of reawakened
to it. What about your friends that are so good
at music and you finally get to see them again
if it's an award show or Ashton McBride would be
another one that whenever I see her live that I'm
always like, oh my god, I forgot how good she was. Yes, yeah,
who for you is like that?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, I'm trying to think of the Cmas this year.
There are so many great performances. I mean, we so
we presented right after the Warren Treaty performed, and I
was standing backstage, yeah, with Gary the Golden Bachelor, and
we were about to walk out and we get to
like we present a jelly roll with his award, which
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was such a what an epic moment. We were so
honored to be there, but listening to them and just
the pure on the pure talent gifting anointing that they
have singing together and as them. You know, individuals that
you do get reminded when you hear them in the
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room live. That's why I think it's a real huge
part of my year this year to have more creative
input and output, Like I want to experience more live
music or even just all kinds of arts.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Theater. My little girl Asley loves the theater.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
She's actually in a production this weekend, her first one
with this theater company she's in. And but wanting to
have Like as you're talking, I'm like, I want, I
want to give myself the opportunity to experience those moments
more because I know I go in and I'm a
different creative and a better creative because of it.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Not only is it good for you inside, it's also
good for you for what you're producing.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yes, yeah, And I mean as you shared that story,
I was thinking about how much it must have meant
to Brett, for someone who doesn't really know him in
that space, but knows him who he is off stage
in a genuine and authentic way. To then have a friend,
a newer friend who is now experiencing him in.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
This way the opposite way most people get to know him.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, and it is the most like, oh, I mean
I could cry thinking about how seen and known in
a deeper way that must have felt for him. Because
those times that that's happened in my life, I'm like, oh,
my gosh, you know the real me and you also
get to see this other side of me and celebrate it,
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and yeah, that's a really that's a very very special.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Circumstance and opportunity.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It was also like, when I watched him do that,
you just reminded and I told him, I was like, man,
that's what you were meant to do. Not that I
didn't take so many hours of work and getting better
and performances and because there's a lot of work that
goes into being great. Yes, but that is what you
were meant to do. What do you feel like you
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were meant to do?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Definitely what I'm doing, I mean being in music. There's
other things that I'm really really about as well. I
mean growing up in a musical home. It's funny you
asked that question. I might actually backtrack for a second.
So growing up in a musical home, both my parents
moved here from their hometowns to pursue it. It was
almost like this is what you do, Like this is
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what we do. This is how I learned to really
kind of fit into my family. So and I had
the gift, like I was born with the gift to sing,
So it was what I did. I ended up growing
into loving it. I mean, for a few years before
I hit high school, I was all about animals and
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I wanted to be a venarian and all these things.
But so music for sure, creative arts for sure. But
the things that are really igniting my passion and my
excitement now have a lot to do with how the
creative arts and mental help and self awareness and taking
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care of ourselves to be better for each other and
our children, how those come together. So I'm you know,
I'm kind of reading. I'm in student mode, Like I'm
reading a whole lot about I feel like I have
to know, Yeah, which the happiest people I know in
my life have the heart and posture of a student.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
My husband is a great example.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, he just got his master's degree over the
last two and a half years in practical theology and
watching him struggle, wrestle, but succeed and thrive was inspiring
and so I yeah, it's a long answer to your question,
but I really feel like digging into more of.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Pursuing healing really because I do think it's possible.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I think that there is healing and goodness that can
happen as hard as this life can be.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
For the first time, I feel like I'm not just
the guy that My identity was always the guy it's
supposed to be funny but wherever it is on the radio,
on stage, but whatever, that was just who I was
first and everything else was secondary. And again I think
I'm kind of late to this party. Of you mentioned healing,
I now feel like that's not the most important part
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of who I am, just now one. I would imagine
kids probably affects that as well, But when did that
start to happen for you, because I feel like you're
so much more mature than I am, Like like.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Lights, I thank you, that's kind, but it's not true.
I would say kids for sure, But then also, you know,
I've been working on a music career since I was sixteen,
like professionally since I was sixteen. Met Charles and Dave
when I was twenty, so I'm almost thirty eight, you know,
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so thinking about when you look at the trajectory of
a career of vocation, I mean, it's kind of like
you're hitting a midlife moment in a career before your
midlife and age. You know, it's a very strange and
so I think then you hit this point of Okay,
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I want to grow through this. I want to continue
to grow even though sometimes what has been created and
what exists the art that I've been a part of making.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Is seen.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
You know, like the fans or other people in my
life closer to me even expect things to be a
certain way, and I'm like, no, no, I'm ready. I'm
growing like we're always supposed to grow. And I think
that's one of the hardest things about having a public
facing life, in my opinion, is just giving yourself the
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permission to grow and knowing that what success looks like
might look different after that, and that that's okay, and
getting to a place of accepting that if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It does. When you were talking about it that it
reminded me of you guys have been so successful for
so long that I think a bit because you guys
are still in your thirties, yeah, I think a bit.
You get people in this weird industry because they penalize
you for how long you've been successful, and they will
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categorize you with like some of the legacy groups, because
I think it is d Sorry I'm drunk. I'm drink,
but I'm drunk. Apparently I've been on a plane all day.
I feel like, I don't know if you feel this
way at all. I feel like they hold you to
a standard based on your success of legacy groups, and
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they often make you compete with your own songs to
focus and feature on your own music, and that here
you guys are you're you know, back thirty one, thirty two,
but you've been famous for so long that to them
you're a tenure success.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's amazing to see, Like had so many people come
through our shows and either send in requests or call
and leave a voicemail, and it's like I've been a
fan of yours since I was, you know, seven years old,
and I'm like, oh my gosh, now you're in college.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, Like same thing with the people said the show.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I mean, it's so and it's a oh it is
such a privilege, Like it truly is such a privilege,
And I think that's just when you are an artist
and when you've had the unbelievable gift of.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Years long of a career.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's our Like, I feel like that's my own, like,
that's my personal work that I have to go and
talk to my counselor about and how to reconcile how
all of that feels and then how I move through
my life, because it can definitely, it can definitely take
you into a place of like wanting to always strive
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to be relevant, and.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It can play games.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I can play games with my mind if I'm not
in a healthy headspace around some of that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I feel like that they will call them gatekeepers if
it could be radio or playlist at these major places
are serious or whatever, Like you guys would be held
to a different unfair standard because you were successful so young,
and you had been successful so long. To hear you
guys are younger than artists that are new at times,
and again they're treating you like legacy ICs, where you
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know we're going to play a couple of the other
older hits instead of even giving your new song a chance.
And that always bothered me for you guys, because you
would have artists that were up for New Artists of
the Year. You guys are like four years younger than
they are. You guys have been doing it for so long.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And that and you know what, that's where gosh, it's
just everybody's story. Everybody's journey is going to look different.
And I think the thing that I care the most
about is just being able to celebrate celebrate that for
those other artists and also not let the upset and
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downs the successes that you know, what people think your
successes or failures within are my career doesn't change my
innate value as a human being.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I think, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And that's the part where it's like when you're when
you're a striver, when you want to pursue things and
go after it with all you've got, a lot of
times your self esteem can like rise and fall on that.
And again that's my work to make sure that that
it doesn't. That I wake up every day and go no,
just being me, just being ill, you know, and and
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not and every day it's not that. I mean, it
is hard sometimes multiple multiple times a day. But back
to kids, they keep me in check because they don't
give a fly on who what I do.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Because because I'm mom and.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
They're hungry, or they want me to come play, or
they need me to, you know, help them take a
bath or you know, it's just it's It definitely.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Brings things back into few perspective.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I find that most of my creative friends and I'm
friends with, we all bond over neurosis, like heavy neuroses.
Me Brett, I don't know if you know, Ben Rector
like we are. We are together all the time and
we're all like for different reasons. We're all extremely neurosis quirky,
hopefully lovable gentlemen. And the one thing that we have
in common is we eyeball ticket sales and the day
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of to see if people don't like us, and we
all wish we didn't because we will, you know, renounce.
If I'm gonna announce a fifteenth theater tour, I'm gonna
go do stand up. I will. At ten oh five,
I'm clicking looking and if they're not selling, I'm like,
oh my god, it's over. People don't like me, They're
not coming, They're not Do you do you or did
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you ever do that?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
That?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
No? Really, I mean and I definitely paid attention to
the chart early on specifically like when we were first
starting and I still don't understand some parts of it
and how it works the way that it works, but
I would ask I mean, I definitely inquired and asked questions,
but but I definitely lean on the side of we
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create the art, we do our part to show up,
to perform it, to promote it, to continue to nurture
the relationships that help propel it forward, and then ultimately
got to like, you gotta let it fly kind of,
you know, it's got to fly.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
The nest and then see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That's just been more of my personality now I know,
you know, my bandmates probably would answer that question very differently,
which is probably why all of the ways that we're
different make what we do so fun so great.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
But no, I mean that's.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Something I think, and maybe it's not totally out of
help that I just was like, oh, I'll just find out,
Like you know, there's a bit of a not knowing
is less scary.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
What was you you and your mom's relationship, like when
you were deciding you were going to do this for real?
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's a great question. They wanted me to get a degree.
My dad more than my mom, probably, but they wanted
me to get a degree. So I went to college
and then ironically met Charles and Dave two and a half.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Two years in to getting a degree. I was probably
on a.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Five year plan from being honest, just because I was
writing so much in town and was taking kind of
the minimum hours per semester. But you know, I think
she wanted me. And this is how I feel about
my girls. I want them to pursue their dream. I
would never deter them from doing the same thing I'm
doing if that's what they want to do, if that's
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what they feel more than what they want to do,
what they feel called to do.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
But she was always supportive, always.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Supportive, and and protective at times, probably wanted me to
ask more questions than I did early on, But I
think that she really gave me the space to find
my way and then has been an unbelievable cheerleader.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
The Bobby Cast will be right back, m This is
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
So your names, though have never been obviously Hillary Scott,
her name, Linda Davis, what's the name, what's the real name? Situation?
There is that really her last name?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
So her maiden name is Davis, got it, and then
my dad is lang Scott, and so then my sister
and I, you know, their two daughters, and.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
So she's kept her maiden name.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Was there ever a time where you thought, maybe if
I got why Davis, people will know that, Like what
about the because your mom definitely well known, especially in
town and also in country music. Did you ever think
you wanted to use that to your advantage or was
it you just so didn't want to use that.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I don't know what If it's it's the I was
an only child for fourteen years, but I'm first born
of two. I don't or maybe it's my own stubbornness
or pride. I never wanted it to appear like I
was writing their coattails at all. I wanted to establish
my own, you know, my own path, which always included
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their colleagues because they had been here and been a
part of so much of what Nashville has been doing
for so many decades. But I never wanted to ride
their coat tails. I mean, I was like, probably stubborn
to a fault with that. I would have been like,
no way, am I gonna not because I don't love
my Davis family. But I was like, no, I'm Hillary Scott,
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and we'll see. I want to see how this goes.
It rises and falls on on.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Mebe and me.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
What did you think think before you met Charles and
Dave your career was going, if you could have chosen it,
what did you think it will be?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I honestly, I had gotten a development deal the year before,
in two thousand and five with another label in town,
and I had showcased for that label March of two
thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
They passed.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
We had packed it out, the showcase felt like it
went great.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Victoria Shaw was producing me.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
We had We've had strong songs, and we even got
great feedback.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
From the label.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
But by the next morning they had said, no, we've
decided to go with another artist.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
So I met the I met Charles and Dave two
months later.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Like after that, no, after that first big kind of
industry career heartbreak, I meet the two of them, I
think I would.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Have probably.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
If not for me, them just tunneled way into songwriting.
I don't know if a solo artist career from that age,
I don't know if I could have handled it. I
just have always thrived in collaboration, in community and friendship
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and being able to work together with people as in
kind of being a part of a team. I would
like to think I could have, but I think I
would have felt so alone, lonely, and I just really
enjoy collaborating.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
With the two of them.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
So I think I would have written a lot, and
then if given an opportunity, I would have jumped. But sustainability,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I don't know. It's really interesting to think about.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Whenever you think about you now, so you're trying to
make it a solo artist for whatever reason that doesn't work.
Timing probably it's always weird timing. But then you meet
these two and where they they were already together. I
mean they already were buddies rightway.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
They were, Yeah, because they've known each other since middle school,
right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
But now you're going from I'm going to be a
solo artist who I'm possibly going to be a third
of something. What kind of mental gymnastics did you have
to do there?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Meaning like sharing it?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, because it's you on stage, it's you when you're
the solo artist.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I I don't think I I don't think I really
thought about it.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
It was.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
This what we're doing is so creatively invigorating and fun.
And this feels so natural, even though it's new, even
though we communicate totally different, and we're figuring out how
to become friends while we start a banded and start
a business. I just it was fun and it was
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it felt right, not easy, you know, And I think
being naive and young, I was so young, I didn't
know any different, you know, and I just knew what
I'm doing. These songs.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
This friendship that's growing just feels like where I want
to be.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Whenever you guys start to become a unit, even if
you haven't taken it out yet. Was it going to
be we are going to be us three, We're going
to have a name, nobody's names on it? Was that
always the plan? Or was it you know, okay, we'll
write the songs you think? Was that always it? We're
going to be a trio, let's go.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
So it happened so organically because I'm at Charles. He
mentioned Dave that they had just moved up day from Atlanta,
Charles from North Carolina to start writing songs.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
We start writing.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
The first song we ever wrote is a song called
All We'd Ever Need that was not originally a duet
and they would say that, Like Charles I think had
spoken to Dave to say, hey, this artist Hillary.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
She has some traction.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
She just had a development deal but it fell through.
She's got great songs. Maybe we can write for her.
Because they were kind of in that same They were
in that headspace of we want to write songs, we'd
love to get cuts. Charles was doing some songs some
shows on his own, I think, opening up for his
brother Josh here and there. But I think they came
into it thinking we'll write and she can, maybe we'll
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write songs for her. Well, then we wrote all we'd
ever need and I was like, this is a duet,
like you've got to sing the second verse. And so
then when that happened and then the harmonies came in.
That was how it just kind of continued to evolve
into a trio.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
The first showcase you guys did, do you remember it?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
How'd that go?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Awkward?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (49:51):
It was so awkward being on stage.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
I mean I had done Family Christmas Show at Apryland
for three years, like I'd done Christmas songs, but actually
performing like with a the band original material was so foreign
and new to me. So being able to learn how
to you know, interact with him.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
With Charles and Dave on stage.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
This it was Third and Lensley and it was before
they renovated, and the stage was literally about the size
of the space right here.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
It was so tiny. So Charles is.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Sixty six, I'm five to nine, Dave six ' to one.
It was a whole lot of like almost decking each other,
you know, with arm moves. So it was awkward, but
it was fun. It was exciting.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
How did it go?
Speaker 3 (50:41):
It went good?
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I mean, I want to say Josh Kelly, Charles's brother,
had us open for him, and then then we kind
of got a standing gig like every few weeks at
Third and Lindsley. And then Josh went and did a
show in North Carolina at this open air kind of
amphitheater let us open up for him. I mean, so
many things just started happening that we were like, how.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
In the world is this happening? And we just kind
of show up.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
We say, yes, how long until you guys get signed?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
So we met in May of two thousand and six,
played our first show in August of that year, and
we signed our deal. We started negotiating our deal in
February of two thousand and seven. Officially signed the contract
in the summer of seven, and love Don't Live Here
Anymore came out fall of seven.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
It went fast.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
When I was considering moving here, there's no way you'll
remember this, So don't don't have like you do. You
won't remember it. Whenever I was considering coming here because
there had never been like a national country show before,
and I had built my own company over in pop
and I built my own syndication company and spent my
own money and had made it work. But again, I
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was getting a bit of flag because I would have
Willie on my pop show or Eli Youngband or Dirk's
or and they would go, well, you have an accent.
When I was in a bunch of markets, but they
were like, you kind of sound like a hillbilly on
a pop station. You know. That was kind of And
so I was like, Okay, we'll go to Nashville. And
I came to you guys shooting some promos and I
sat and you guys were so nice to me, and
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I was I was just a dude that was sitting there.
Where were we in some sound stage? You guys were
so nice to me and it was. It was really
one of the contributing factors to me going, you know,
this feels uncomfortable because I'm giving up something that I built,
but I feel like I can do some like I
think it'd be naturally more me to do this. But
I just remember how nice you guys were to me
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and going, man, if that's what people are like, They're like,
I'm in that's so kind. Yeah, so and I don't
even know. I wish I knew what you guys were doing,
but you guys were And then McGraw was there too,
who McGraw obviously older, way older, but like legend, and
I remember him coming up and being like, what's up? Man?
And I was like, what's that? What? What planet are
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these people? But you guys were so kind to me.
And I don't think I've ever told you guys that story,
but it really factored in to me moving here because
of that. I just have a couple of questions, final
questions for you here. And we talked about the new
music you guys have put out and before you got here.
But I was at a restaurant down near where our
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dogs are, and I saw this guy, really good looking,
chiseled guy, get an earring in dressed extremely fashionable. I
was like, that guy's got to be somebody, and he
wouldn't turn around. But he was so just strikingly handsome
and had on just the exact like right that I
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would never be able to pull off. And so I
was like, I need to stop staring. So I walked
over to get my drink and he comes over and
he grabs him by the shoulders. He goes Bobby and
it's one of the guys from for King Country. Yes, yes, yes,
and with who I really like, and we have our
own text thread the Bone Family. Yes and so but
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are you have something coming? Yeah? Their movie is happening.
That's right, And did you do something with them?
Speaker 3 (54:09):
I did? Okay, So it was it Joel or Luke Joel?
So yes, they asked me. So we collaborated on a song.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
I featured on a song called for God Is with
us on their last record and had so much fun.
We had kind of reached out to each other over
the years since my Christian project in twenty sixteen about
doing things together. It just never worked out. They send
me the song that I already knew because I was
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such a fan. So I sing on.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
That song with them.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Well, then a couple months later I get a call and.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
They're like, so, we're shooting this movie.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
We've written the story of how our family migrated here
from Australia. Crazy story, by the way, is unbelievable, right, unbelievable,
and we need Someonehillary, dear Hillary, to sing and play
the role of the worship leader in the church that
we started go into when we moved to Nashville. So
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I am lol Aanne Lilianne Meese is my character's name.
It is a It's such a small role, but such
an incredible opportunity to kind of dip my toe. Oh
my gosh, I had so much fun. Again, it's just
being a part of a team, being a part of
a cast. I am definitely still so much more comfortable
singing than speaking on camera. But it was a great
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experience and I got to screen the movie a couple
months ago.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Comes out April twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
It is an unbelievable film just about the resilience of
family and how they just dug in and went through
just such highs, such lows, but stayed together. And their mother,
I mean, who's the true Miss Helen is the that
she's the unsung hero.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
I mean, that's who the whole film.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Is really honoring and about, and I highly encourage everyone
to see it because it's it's powerful.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Parallel as well. They you know, their sister was famous, yes,
and they were like, we are not our brothers sister.
They didn't weren't. They weren't saying we're not, but they
just that was not their thing, right. They wanted to
go and see if they had what it took to
They're awesome. They are like, it's next level.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
They bring the the bells and whistles of any pop
show you can ever imagine they bring to their shows.
And the music is so dynamic, and the producers that
they work with, like sonically it's just so interesting. And
they're they're amazing. They're such incredible people friends. And yeah,
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I I'm very very grateful for the small bones.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
That watching them perform because I knew them before I
saw them perform. It was like, I don't know those
aliens performing on stage because those rock It was it
was crazy to watch how good they were.
Speaker 4 (57:04):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our
sponsor h Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Final question, what do you hope people say behind you
find your back m M.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
I would say my hope is that I hope that
people would say that I'm kind.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Definitely, you know, have I have my moments where anxiety
or stress or something that I'm preoccupied with gets the
best of me. But that I'm kind, and that I
think that you know that my own personal prayers for
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growth over these last few years is just to be.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Kind no matter what and to grow in wisdom.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
So I think that would be the other hope as
I get older, continue to get older, is that.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Something I said mattered to them?
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Is that kind of We'll just use the word Monserrat's
easiest for everybody? Is that kind of it? To be kind?
Is that mine is don't complain?
Speaker 3 (58:27):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
Like I really try not to complain because it doesn't
mean no good. It does no one else any good either,
So I try not to complain. Is yours to constantly
try to But it's hard, by the way, I don't
do a good job up all the time because I
complain like crazy? But is that what it is for you?
To just try to be kind? Because you don't know
what everybody or anybody else is kind?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Of going through yeah, to be kind and also and
know that like that that doesn't it doesn't always come easy,
dependent on the dependent on where you are in your life,
but that it's always the better choice. I'm always more
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I always go to bed at night with more peace
in my heart. And you know one thing I've been
saying to my girls a lot lately, when we're talking
about sharing or you know, working through things with friends,
it's like, and this isn't in a you pursue perfectionism
kind of way, but it's like, go make a choice,
Go do something that you think would make God smile.
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That's what That's what I want them. I want that
motivation to be for them. That's my prayer for them,
is like, hey, let's go make people smile, but let's
make God smile with the way that you're treating your friends,
taking care of yourself and experiencing life.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
As we mentioned earlier, Love You Back a love song.
You guess follow both Lady A and Hillary Scott LA
which seems like Los Angeles, but I know it's Lady Ah.
I do, I do, But every time I see it,
I think it's like Hillary's got Los Angeles. But I'm
just a massive fan of you as a person and
the band obviously, but I have such a different relationship,
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Like Dave is the reason that I even went on
site and had a lot of like, you know, there
was I was going through some stuff, But I have
a different relationship with all of you guys so distinctly
and different and then all together as well, and you're
all like, it's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. Like I wanted
(01:00:29):
to punch Charleston's face a few times and him me,
but but that even makes us better friends, you know,
it's real. Yeah, And Dave has been like right in
my ear in times where I've been like hey, man,
like that guy is solid. So I'm a big fan
of you, big fan of the group. Thank you for
coming in and spending the time you and you guys.
(01:00:49):
You're done with a tour though, right for now? Will
you do a tour where you take no request and
only do songs that people have never heard of? Because
that would be opposite if it would the other way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
What, That would be creatively really exciting for me and
possibly very boring for the fans.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
We'll see only deep cuts, but not even your deep cuts. Yes,
deep cuts from your favorite.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Artist, other artists that would be hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Oh my god, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
I just have always thrived in collaboration. I would like
to think I could have, but I think I would
have felt so alone. And I just really enjoyed collaborating
with the two of them.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode four point thirty two with Hillary Scott from Lady A.
We had Hillary and during the pandemic, but she was
on a zoom near A. Yeah, and I know Hillary
and she's awesome as a person, like just the greatest.
But we had never had her in. We had Dave in,
We've had Charles in, but never had Hillary. I really
enjoyed this. It was easy with her because I really
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like her. I know where She's the easiest person to
talk with and talk to. You can follow her on Instagram.
Hillary Scott LA as in Lady Innebellum, not as in
Los Angeles, Hillary Scott LA. Their new single is called
Love You Back, Here you Go. What do you think
that song's about? He had to guess, letting go of
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the past. Love You Back explores the idea that while
memories of an old flame can bring some comfort, they
can also keep one from moving forward. Well, a lot
of times we romanticize things that are done because we
can create scenarios, because you can't say we're wrong. Yeah, So,
if you're listening right now, stop thinking to your eggs.
Move on.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
He's a freaking loser.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Move on to that new guy. He's not as much
of a loser. He's still kind of a loser, not
as much, you know, Leave your wife, leave your husband. No,
don't listen to that voice, lady. A Top five streaming
songs of all time. Let's roll through these real quick.
Number five American Honey.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Here's a whisper.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Number four, bartender, number three, what if I never get
over you? If I'm shy? Number two just a kiss,
just a kiss on your hands. And that's number two.
I thought it'd be like four or five. Number one,
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need you now? So? Hillary Scott born in Nashville, Tennessee.
Lenna Davis country music artist. She's sang with Riba, She
toured with three but for a long time, and then
she do you have a song they did together? I don't.
It's a very famous song. Okay, you don't have right now,
but in Mike's gonna put it in a post where
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it feels like we have it. Now. Here's that love
you there you go, look enjoy I did here. She
is Hillary Scott from Lady A. Hello Hillary, Hello Bob.
I didn't know because we had planned this before and
we were just talking. I thought, because last year was
just weird, because I was like, at RSV, you ever
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had RSV? I don't think my baby's got that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, worried about my kids.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Then I thought, am I a baby? You know? Do
I still have uh? And then you said no, it
was you that was sick. So then I remembered, yeah,
And I'm glad that both of us could do this again,
me too, and.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We don't have to socially distanced because we're both.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, yes, I feel like Iron Man at this point.
I've had it all. I've had every disease. And so
you mentioned my dog too a minute to goo Eller,
who is the dog we adopted. I think the last
time we probably saw each other was at the dog place.
It was we won't say where, dog daycare.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, ran into each other because we do. We live,
we're neighbors. Basically, I'm like, not far from you. And
I remember meeting Ella because I had heard you talk
about her on the show, and then she peed on
my shoes and.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I was so embarrassed. I was so embarrassed. But the
only thing that saved me was we were at a
dog place and I knew you had a dog. And
most dogs I've heard, and I don't know if this
is true, pee they.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Do all dogs.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I would think, okay, great dogs, and she's excited to
see and she peed on your shoes, and I remember
looking at your shoes being like, please don't be red
bottoms or please don't.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
But yeah, if I'm picking up my dog in red bottoms,
that's on me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, that's fair too. It is again so wonderful to see.
We had Stephen Curtis Chapman over here recently, and I
do a lot of these hundreds and hundreds, and I
enjoy actually sitting down and being able to talk for
an hour with somebody as opposed to eight minutes where
you're going project this, that boom, goodbye. And so I
performed at the Opry with Stephen a bunch of times,
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not together, but while he was on there, and we'd
become friendly. But I listened to him so much as
a kid, and I was so it was so exciting
for me to spend time with him and actually realize
he's like that even in long doses.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Absolutely do you know him, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What is he like as a friend, because I just
want to be his best friend?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh my gosh, sincere and kind and just the wisdom
I received from him anytime we have a conversation. I mean,
we go back far because we called called him. I
think it was November, late November, early December of twenty eleven,
and we were getting married, Chris and I, and we
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were like, do we want to just play music in
our ceremony? And we kind of eloped. We did a
little bit of a modified elopement because we were originally
going to be married in April of twelve, and then
we ended up pushing it to January of twelve. And
so we called him and just said, hey, would you
and your wife Mary Beth want to fly up to
up state New York and wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Down the road?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, it was in up state New York, right outside
of Albany. And he said yes, and he and Mary
Beth made kind of a little getaway out of it,
and we spent time together over that wedding weekend and
then just became such good friends. And then we actually,
you know, got to hang with he and his family
and their musical family and just so much in common
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that way.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And then.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Not long after that, I made the record with my
family with Ricky Skaggs producing and Stephen sang on it,
and so we've just kind of continued to be friends.
Marybeth actually just text me a couple like we and
a half ago about getting together for dinner, and we
just are such supporters and what they're doing with Show
Hope in the organization they do, you know, grants, I'm
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sure he talked about it, grants for families that are
looking to adopt, and just a lot of alignment of
heart and he's just so family forward and I love.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That about them.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I also loved that he was honest about a story
where he was like, yeah, he's a huge country music fan. Yeah,
you know, he didn't really manipulate his story to fit
his exact brand. His brand is what his story allowed
him to kind of pivot into. And still a fan
of country music, but he's like, you know, I felt
the need and the calling to sing for Jesus. Yes,
(06:41):
And a lot of times, as you know, we have
to build narratives so it's easy for people that are
consuming us to remember, and he didn't do that, and
I was so grateful for him to tell the story
like that. And there have been a few few Christian
artists that have come in because I grew up. I
grew up a church Baptist church, mounta Pine Baptist, and
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we weren't even that hardcore, like we could dance.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That is a very.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well in Arkansas, we had a Baptist church and we
could dance. And I went to church a lot for safety.
You know, there was a bit of food insecurity. How
I grew up, and there was always food on Sundays.
There was always Wednesday night somewhere to go. And so
like Chris Tomlin is another example who I love that dude.
And I asked him if there was pressure And this
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is going to lead to the question I'm asking you.
I asked him if there was pressure because and my
wife when I you know, she's not super into the
industry or she's not in it at all, but she
doesn't like care that much. She was like Christoma, we
sang all his hymn to church, and I was like,
well, well you just sing Rock of Ages basically, you know,
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all of ours were him. Yes, But I asked him
if there was a pressure on him to be so
godlike because that's how everyone knows him, because he's a
normal human. And I'd found myself talking about a Christmas
party we were having and I invited him over and
it was like, not real money, but we were we
were had Vegas set up and what we were doing
(08:10):
was donating to whomever won that night to their charity.
And I was going to invite him and I was like,
I'm not inviting him. It's gambling. And it was exactly
what he told me that he did not want people
to do to him. And so then I said, Chris,
I'm so sorry I didn't invite you. Now I'm inviting
you again because it's fun. So he lives with this
wonderful but constant pressure for people to think he has
to be godlike all the time. Do you feel the
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pressure on you as a public person and even a Christian,
an open Christian to always present we'll just say a
good mood.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh, I mean there's definite pressure, for sure, I think.
But to me, what I am so grateful for about
my relationship with God and my faith is that there's
a scripture that talks about when we are weak, he
is strong. So in our weaknesses, vulnerability, we actually connect deeper.
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We see how much we need him, Others see that
we don't have it all together. I mean, I've heard
it said so many times and it's so profound, and
it's like church needs to be more like a hospital,
like then a country club where you show up all
buttoned up and presenting a certain way. It's like, no,
we're all broken wanting to come together for the same reason,
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to receive the peace and the comfort and the grace
and mercy of God, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And so I do definitely feel that pressure.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But ironically, when you do share publicly or privately the
hard things you're going through, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
When you really connect with absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean truly, Like that is where I've had the
most just oh, the most rewarding conversations, the most rewarding
DMS conversations with you know, people on Instagram. I mean,
it's just so to not be afraid to say what's
really going on.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I can ask you what and I'll share one with
you too, so you don't feel alone here, but can
ask you, like an example of that something that you
would have spoken about that was difficult for you because
I felt a lot of shame in mind, but I
didn't realize that other people were writing alongside me with
their own version of it. So what would an example
of that be for you?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I mean, one of the biggest was something that I
still grieve every day, which is the miscarriage we had
in between Isley and my twin girls. And just how
as I.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Walked through and Chris and I walked through that experience,
there was a big moment of like, are we going
to share this? Are we going to But then when
the only way I knew to pursue healing and just
kind of keep moving was to write about it became
a song. And then it was a song that I knew.
I was like, I think people really need to hear this,
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and so.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It was.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It was that experience and one that continues to come
up to this day. You know, that record came out,
that song came out in twenty sixteen, and I still
feel like when people come up to me, whether it's
in the grocery store or at to meet and greet,
it's always it's always brought up.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Were you surprised that that is what people attached through
so strongly and that people still attached to it even
seven years or so later.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I think it doesn't surprise me because one in four
women one and four pregnancies, not women one and four
pregnancies and in miscarriage.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
So the statistics are so.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
High that and not a lot of people know that
that's how often it happens. So that's a whole lot
of people, it's a whole lot of women, that's a
whole lot of families. So I think that specific experience
in the women and the families that I hear from
who've experienced that exact thing, it isn't shocking.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The other stories around the song where it's met others
in other ways, in different hardships in their life, those always,
I mean, they all touch my heart. They all just
humble me and are very very priceless to me to
be invited into those stories. But some of the ones
that are about other things are the ones that like
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lay me.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Out in the floor. When I wrote my first book,
I was I don't know how to write a book.
I mean I'd written some stuff, but never a book.
And I thought no one would want to read a
book for me anyway, And I thought I'm just gonna
write everything and then whatever, I'm too ashamed of I'm
going to pull out, but I'm going to as and
you probably deal with this writing you know, a song,
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a three minute version of this, but one hundred times.
And so I wrote this book and it was a
lot of mind securities, a lot of what we all
suffer through. But I wrote about my mom, a lot
of my mom's not alive anymore. She died when she
was forty seven or so. She died from basically drug abuse,
drug and alcohol abuse. And it had gotten so bad
with their and it was some heavy drugs like meth.
And I'm from Arkansas and it's it's poverty there and
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like I never quite understood until I got older, but
my mom had got so wrapped up in it that
she would call and need money, and you know, she
had started to go, well, I'm gonna do porn and
when your mom calls and tells you that, and I
was and I remember writing that story and I was
so I was so ashamed, and I was going to
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take it out. And I don't know why I didn't,
because I never had the thought, I'll leave it in,
it'll connect. I don't know how it lasted and landed,
but I'm telling you when I'll tour and do stand
up you want to know, people talk to me about
how it's not exactly the same, but everybody will come up.
Not everybody, but I like people come up and go,
(13:52):
I'm so glad you said this, because nobody says that
addiction affects them in ways like this. Yes, and even now.
I mean I wrote that book six seven years ago, Like,
I couldn't believe that that was the connector. Yeah, I thought,
I'll write some funny stories, people will enjoy it, I'll
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write a but of everything that I wrote, I was
most ashamed of a lot of the stuff that I
had gone through in that part of my life and
my world. But that was the that was the really
the connector of all and I couldn't believe it. But
it also shows me that the more raw and open
you are, the more you're actually relatable. And I did
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not think that was the case.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And and and I think the other beautiful benefit for
you sharing it, and or at least for me for
sharing it, is the freedom you feel because I there
was something in me with my story, like if I
had withheld that information, I would have really felt like
I was moving through my life in not the most
(14:56):
honest way that I could, and that I would be
numbing some part of my myself and that just didn't
feel authentic. And so as scary as it was, I
felt free.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Did you feel when you were writing, when you're doing
the music, because this is a bit how I felt too,
it like I had Reliving it was kind of hard, yes.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yes, absolutely well in writing it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean I was in the middle of miscarring when
i wrote the song, so it was very much like
I'm in this right now talking about it right now.
So as it got recorded and then the times that
i've I've performed it, we're saying it in church. It's
definitely been a different experience remembering it, still feeling it deeply,
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but not like I was.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
When we wrote it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I may have chills, like on the back of my
neck just talking about it again and also talking about
it with someone who understands what it's like to share
that going how is this going to be interpreted? How
are people going to feel about me? But then you
realize everybody's got their own everybody's got their.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Own, Yes, yes they do, we all do, and that,
I think is is the great equalizer of being human.
Is we all have all have our hardships and our struggles,
and we all want to be loved and feel like
we belong.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
My dog beed on your shoes. She did did, and
I thought today, just to go full circle, I would
pee on your shoes before you left. So because I
told her, I said, Ella, I'm gonna pay on her
shoes today, because I know you feel bad. That way,
I can pee too, and She'll be like, you're with me,
and you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Know what, I'll leave them for you, how about that?
And then I'll come back later and pick them up.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
On this one, I went to an allergist, if you
I guess late last week. I didn't really been don
an allurgist before. It's kind of like a fancy thing,
didn't you know? I didn't go to a lot of allergists.
But I had an infection in my sinus, infection so
bad that it got in my teeth, in my ears,
and I did not know that's what it was. I
thought I had some kind of tooth pain. So I
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go and my Dennis is like, you got nothing wrong
with your teeth. Then we do a different extrac goes, dude,
you hit you your cavity is completely full and you know,
like you, my voice is what I have, yes, and so,
and I lose there about twice a year because of allergies.
And so my doctor says, go to this allergist. But
she tells me, I'm severely allergic to dogs. No, yeah,
(17:17):
I gotta kill them both today now never I will
just die. I'll just die of allergies. I'm gonna I
have to go every week now and get allergie shots
three a week. But the thing, the thing that I love, yes,
I'm allergic too.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
That's hard.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I mean there are kids, I mean they really. I
mean we have one dog and he is a ninety
two pound sheep of doodle. Yeah, and he's awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But they are. They are so they're a part of
our family. They really are.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I mean I love my my three girls and I
love my fur baby.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I mean it's I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, it sucks. And we don't have kids yet. And
if you don't mind, like to ask a couple kid questions. Sure,
because biting a man. Until I was almost forty, I
didn't really have a serious girl I have that until
so I met my wife and it was like, oh,
I didn't know that it was supposed to be. It's
not always easy, but I didn't know that it was
supposed to be this easy. When it's good. Yeah, Like
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it's just kind of like it's like a click, like
it just fits right. And so I meet her and
it's awesome and we get married and you know, she
wants to have kids. I want to have kids eventually.
But like I said, I didn't have a models like
my parents didn't. They weren't together. I didn't know my
daddy left when I was five, or sick my mom,
you know, passed away. So I'm scared to death to
have kids. And then but what I wonder is, and
(18:36):
I ask you, because you're a little younger than I am,
but how old is your oldest what?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Ten already I know Isley's ten, and then my twin
God's crazy six at the end of January.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay, So I feel like if and when we have
kids when, because she's not pregnant now, no articles, no,
I had lies. I promise you she's not pregnant right now.
I don't think she is. It seems like it's a
lot of work.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It is, but the most rewarding one.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But is it really or is it because you've been
told you have not you have to say that, but
you're supposed to feel that way. No, No, it is
so I'm very selfish, not about giving stuff, but about
I've only ever been me and trying to first just
survive as myself and then to create for myself and
then for others. I feel like I'm going to have
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a kid in either a be like my dad who left.
I don't think I'm going to do that, but like
there's that part of me is there, or I'm just
gonna be annoyed because i have to give up all
my life and kids are just a lot of work. Like,
talk me, not down, but talk some logic into me.
I know you will have to ask you this question
that I know you're not gonna lie to me.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
No, I mean, well it is.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I mean I think marriage is a really you in
a way. If you are pursuing a healthy marriage, there's
a part of you that has to die.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
To yourself every day for your wife. I have there's
the parts.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Of me that that leak out on my husband. If
I don't, if I don't keep myself in check, we suffer. So,
you know, I think that's why marriage is such a
beautiful kind of place to start with learning how to
put someone else before yourself. But here's the thing with children,
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They are from you, and it is different. I mean,
it is so humbling. I mean I was in an
argument with my five year old this morning, trying to
get her dressed for school and having a moment. And
I didn't say this out loud to her. I never would,
but I was like, I don't know what to do
in this moment with you. Like I'm really struggling, Like
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you're hearing one thing I'm saying another, You're just totally
tuning me out eventually, and it's frustrating, but oh my gosh,
it is.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It is the most unbelievable gift.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And I was just talking to my sister in law,
she's visiting with her husband and my niece, and we
were just having this conversation of how much more you
as you become a parent every day is not just
a combination of putting yourself, you know, like trying to
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be as selfless as possible, taking care of yourself, but
also doing the work to be the best parent, to
show up for your child, but it's also a continual
surrender of control because there are certain things that you
can control, like you know, when you feed them, now
if they eat it all, Like there's all these different
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things that you can control, but then there's a whole
lot that you just have to let go. And that
is not to bring this back, but it is the
compass of my life, my story.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Without my faith, I would.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Be the worst mother and wife because I would need
to just grasp everything like their lives and mind depended
on it. And so when there's a surrender and faith
in the process in the story, and a faith in
God to that He's in control and I don't have
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to be, it just helps me breathe.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And I'm scared to death, Like I'm scared, and.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know what that says to me.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It speaks to the unbelievable heart you have that you're
taking it seriously, like there's something really healthy in fear.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Or that I know I'm gonna screw it up. That's
why I tell my wife, it's like I'm afraid I'm
gonna mess this up so bad, Like why I'm already
I struggle being a good husband at times because just
gone or I'm not you know, we've be married two years,
been together four or so whatever it is like that
to me was hard because I've never had somebody that
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I cared as much about that I would actually let
it affect me to where it was bothersome that they
weren't feeling good. I never had that. I haven't now
and i've definitely, but I feel like I'm like twelve
in that development. Career wise, I'm like one hundred and ten.
(23:17):
I'm Methuselaman. I mean, let's go. I got a long
gray beard. I've been through it all. But like in
that relationship part of my life, like that was that
that is still developing. I read books on it. Yeah,
I never thought it would I only want to read
like sports books. But now I just read a book
Wired for Love, which is like a book about the brain.
And I never thought i'd be that guy. And I
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never think I'm gonna read kid's books, but oh my god,
but I do.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And you write them.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh I did. I didn't write a kids book. I
did write a children's book. Yes. I just got in
from from Vegas like an hour ago. I was doing
the CES convention out there and speaking a couple of places.
And while I was there, there was this really small
show that Weezer came out to play as of Weezer fans.
I did not know until I got there that was happening.
(24:04):
And I'm right at the stage and I have no
phone out. Someone had recorded me and I got the
video of it. I don't have a phone out, watch
and I'm just I'm in it and I'm enjoying it,
and I'm singing every Weezer song because that was one
of my favoritess why we're my glasses? Honestly? Yes was.
I thought Rivers Cuomo was the coolest dude. He was
a nerd like I was, and I was also blind.
And so I'm watching Weezer and I'm being a fan.
(24:24):
I rarely get to be a fan just because of
the industry that we're in. When is the last time
you got to be a real fan of something in
the arts? It doesn't have to be music, but where
you went and you just got to go, I'm not
Hillary from Lady A, I'm not Hillary the singer. I'm
just here to enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
The first thing that pops up in my mind when
you ask me that question. So we started our tour,
the Request Line Tour, in April of last year, we
did two nights at the Rhymen, which was such a
sweet and daunting.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Scary and also really rewarding way to start the tour.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But we played a Friday and a Saturday night, and
then on Sunday night, a friend of mine who's a
Christian artist named Brandon Lake played the Ryman, And so
I was at the Rhyman three nights in a row,
and that night there was something about the timing of it.
I think, after giving so much of myself to these
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two shows in our hometown, in this iconic venue, getting
to go and sit and just experience something that was
so inspirational and so beautiful with music that I love
and I sing in my car all the time, that
to me was the and I took my little sister
Riley with me.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That was probably the last time.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
In the recent months that I felt like I was
just fully soaking up the experience.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So that would be do you feel like people or
were you able to separate yourself from people pointing and staring?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, I was so lost
in that show.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It's hard to call it a show too, It's like
a worship experience.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But I was so caught up in it. I don't
even I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't even know if I noticed anybody else, to
be honest, I mean, and that night it was so cool.
Thomas Rahtt came out and they performed a song together.
It's a song called Talking to Jesus, and it's this
really beautiful story song about prayer and family that pray
for you, and it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
But I if they were looking, I didn't care.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I mean, that's how free I felt.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It was like I didn't have my you know, my
phone wasn't out, it wasn't It was just free, kind
of like you explained.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And I was watching myself sing along to a song
with no phone in my hand, and I was like, man,
I wish it could be that guy more. It's my fault.
I'm not. Yeah, yeah, it's my fault. I'm not. Sometimes
it's a little harder. It's hard to go eat and
people record us eating. My wife hates it especially like that.
But you know, but I shouldn't let that sour me
(27:07):
to allow myself to have like great experiences. And I
saw me and I posted on my Instagram because I'm
just like rare me no phone and someone recorded me
and it was awesome and I almost didn't recognize that
version of me to just be in that moment. Another
thing that's kind of odd about Nashville is we rarely
get to see our friends do their thing that they
(27:28):
are celebrated for professionally, because I'm gone on a lot
of weekends, right, And also so are my friends. And
if they are here, they're rarely here. You're like, you
guys are rarely here, right. And so Brett Elderd is
one of my top three best friends in the whole world.
And my wife and Brett and myself we probably hang
(27:51):
out two to three times a week, like we're that close, right.
But she didn't know. She knew he was a singer.
She had never seen him sing, and we go to
his Christmas show Lash year. She's like, I'm nervous, Like
why she goes because if this is cringey, I gotta
tell them because I've never seen him sing. And Brett
is a very is very shy, very much a mental
(28:15):
health advocate and deals with anxiety as do. I think
that's kind of why we bonded at first. But he
comes out and he starts singing and I look over
and she's like crying because here's this person that we
know that's doing the thing they were meant to do,
and she's getting emotional. Said, I guess that's not Cringey.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Hunt All hang tight.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back
on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Not being able to see our friends do their things
and to see them sometimes it's I'm kind of reawakened
to it. What about your friends that are so good
at music and you finally get to see them again
if it's an award show or Ashton McBride would be
another one that whenever I see her live that I'm
always like, oh my god, I forgot how good she was. Yes, yeah,
who for you is like that?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, I'm trying to think of the Cmas this year.
There are so many great performances. I mean, we so
we presented right after the Warren Treaty performed, and I
was standing backstage, yeah, with Gary the Golden Bachelor, and
we were about to walk out and we get to
like we present a jelly roll with his award, which
(29:34):
was such a what an epic moment. We were so
honored to be there, but listening to them and just
the pure on the pure talent gifting anointing that they
have singing together and as them. You know, individuals that
you do get reminded when you hear them in the
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room live. That's why I think it's a real huge
part of my year this year to have more creative
input and output, Like I want to experience more live
music or even just all kinds of arts.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Theater. My little girl Asley loves the theater.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
She's actually in a production this weekend, her first one
with this theater company she's in. And but wanting to
have Like as you're talking, I'm like, I want, I
want to give myself the opportunity to experience those moments
more because I know I go in and I'm a
different creative and a better creative because of it.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Not only is it good for you inside, it's also
good for you for what you're producing.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yes, yeah, And I mean as you shared that story,
I was thinking about how much it must have meant
to Brett, for someone who doesn't really know him in
that space, but knows him who he is off stage
in a genuine and authentic way. To then have a friend,
a newer friend who is now experiencing him in.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
This way the opposite way most people get to know him.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, and it is the most like, oh, I mean
I could cry thinking about how seen and known in
a deeper way that must have felt for him. Because
those times that that's happened in my life, I'm like, oh,
my gosh, you know the real me and you also
get to see this other side of me and celebrate it,
(31:22):
and yeah, that's a really that's a very very special.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Circumstance and opportunity.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It was also like, when I watched him do that,
you just reminded and I told him, I was like, man,
that's what you were meant to do. Not that I
didn't take so many hours of work and getting better
and performances and because there's a lot of work that
goes into being great. Yes, but that is what you
were meant to do. What do you feel like you
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were meant to do?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Definitely what I'm doing, I mean being in music. There's
other things that I'm really really about as well. I
mean growing up in a musical home. It's funny you
asked that question. I might actually backtrack for a second.
So growing up in a musical home, both my parents
moved here from their hometowns to pursue it. It was
almost like this is what you do, Like this is
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what we do. This is how I learned to really
kind of fit into my family. So and I had
the gift, like I was born with the gift to sing,
So it was what I did. I ended up growing
into loving it. I mean, for a few years before
I hit high school, I was all about animals and
(32:35):
I wanted to be a venarian and all these things.
But so music for sure, creative arts for sure. But
the things that are really igniting my passion and my
excitement now have a lot to do with how the
creative arts and mental help and self awareness and taking
(32:57):
care of ourselves to be better for each other and
our children, how those come together. So I'm you know,
I'm kind of reading. I'm in student mode, Like I'm
reading a whole lot about I feel like I have
to know, Yeah, which the happiest people I know in
my life have the heart and posture of a student.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
My husband is a great example.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, he just got his master's degree over the
last two and a half years in practical theology and
watching him struggle, wrestle, but succeed and thrive was inspiring
and so I yeah, it's a long answer to your question,
but I really feel like digging into more of.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Pursuing healing really because I do think it's possible.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I think that there is healing and goodness that can
happen as hard as this life can be.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
For the first time, I feel like I'm not just
the guy that My identity was always the guy it's
supposed to be funny but wherever it is on the radio,
on stage, but whatever, that was just who I was
first and everything else was secondary. And again I think
I'm kind of late to this party. Of you mentioned healing,
I now feel like that's not the most important part
(34:11):
of who I am, just now one. I would imagine
kids probably affects that as well, But when did that
start to happen for you, because I feel like you're
so much more mature than I am, Like like.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Lights, I thank you, that's kind, but it's not true.
I would say kids for sure, But then also, you know,
I've been working on a music career since I was sixteen,
like professionally since I was sixteen. Met Charles and Dave
when I was twenty, so I'm almost thirty eight, you know,
(34:46):
so thinking about when you look at the trajectory of
a career of vocation, I mean, it's kind of like
you're hitting a midlife moment in a career before your
midlife and age. You know, it's a very strange and
so I think then you hit this point of Okay,
(35:08):
I want to grow through this. I want to continue
to grow even though sometimes what has been created and
what exists the art that I've been a part of making.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Is seen.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
You know, like the fans or other people in my
life closer to me even expect things to be a
certain way, and I'm like, no, no, I'm ready. I'm
growing like we're always supposed to grow. And I think
that's one of the hardest things about having a public
facing life, in my opinion, is just giving yourself the
(35:42):
permission to grow and knowing that what success looks like
might look different after that, and that that's okay, and
getting to a place of accepting that if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It does. When you were talking about it that it
reminded me of you guys have been so successful for
so long that I think a bit because you guys
are still in your thirties, yeah, I think a bit.
You get people in this weird industry because they penalize
you for how long you've been successful, and they will
(36:19):
categorize you with like some of the legacy groups, because
I think it is d Sorry I'm drunk. I'm drink,
but I'm drunk. Apparently I've been on a plane all day.
I feel like, I don't know if you feel this
way at all. I feel like they hold you to
a standard based on your success of legacy groups, and
(36:39):
they often make you compete with your own songs to
focus and feature on your own music, and that here
you guys are you're you know, back thirty one, thirty two,
but you've been famous for so long that to them
you're a tenure success.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's amazing to see, Like had so many people come
through our shows and either send in requests or call
and leave a voicemail, and it's like I've been a
fan of yours since I was, you know, seven years old,
and I'm like, oh my gosh, now you're in college.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, Like same thing with the people said the show.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I mean, it's so and it's a oh it is
such a privilege, Like it truly is such a privilege,
And I think that's just when you are an artist
and when you've had the unbelievable gift of.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Years long of a career.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's our Like, I feel like that's my own, like,
that's my personal work that I have to go and
talk to my counselor about and how to reconcile how
all of that feels and then how I move through
my life, because it can definitely, it can definitely take
you into a place of like wanting to always strive
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to be relevant, and.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It can play games.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I can play games with my mind if I'm not
in a healthy headspace around some of that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I feel like that they will call them gatekeepers if
it could be radio or playlist at these major places
are serious or whatever, Like you guys would be held
to a different unfair standard because you were successful so young,
and you had been successful so long. To hear you
guys are younger than artists that are new at times,
and again they're treating you like legacy ICs, where you
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know we're going to play a couple of the other
older hits instead of even giving your new song a chance.
And that always bothered me for you guys, because you
would have artists that were up for New Artists of
the Year. You guys are like four years younger than
they are. You guys have been doing it for so long.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And that and you know what, that's where gosh, it's
just everybody's story. Everybody's journey is going to look different.
And I think the thing that I care the most
about is just being able to celebrate celebrate that for
those other artists and also not let the upset and
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downs the successes that you know, what people think your
successes or failures within are my career doesn't change my
innate value as a human being.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I think, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And that's the part where it's like when you're when
you're a striver, when you want to pursue things and
go after it with all you've got, a lot of
times your self esteem can like rise and fall on that.
And again that's my work to make sure that that
it doesn't. That I wake up every day and go no,
just being me, just being ill, you know, and and
(39:37):
not and every day it's not that. I mean, it
is hard sometimes multiple multiple times a day. But back
to kids, they keep me in check because they don't
give a fly on who what I do.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Because because I'm mom and.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
They're hungry, or they want me to come play, or
they need me to, you know, help them take a
bath or you know, it's just it's It definitely.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Brings things back into few perspective.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I find that most of my creative friends and I'm
friends with, we all bond over neurosis, like heavy neuroses.
Me Brett, I don't know if you know, Ben Rector
like we are. We are together all the time and
we're all like for different reasons. We're all extremely neurosis quirky,
hopefully lovable gentlemen. And the one thing that we have
in common is we eyeball ticket sales and the day
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of to see if people don't like us, and we
all wish we didn't because we will, you know, renounce.
If I'm gonna announce a fifteenth theater tour, I'm gonna
go do stand up. I will. At ten oh five,
I'm clicking looking and if they're not selling, I'm like,
oh my god, it's over. People don't like me, They're
not coming, They're not Do you do you or did
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you ever do that?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
That?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
No? Really, I mean and I definitely paid attention to
the chart early on specifically like when we were first
starting and I still don't understand some parts of it
and how it works the way that it works, but
I would ask I mean, I definitely inquired and asked questions,
but but I definitely lean on the side of we
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create the art, we do our part to show up,
to perform it, to promote it, to continue to nurture
the relationships that help propel it forward, and then ultimately
got to like, you gotta let it fly kind of,
you know, it's got to fly.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
The nest and then see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That's just been more of my personality now I know,
you know, my bandmates probably would answer that question very differently,
which is probably why all of the ways that we're
different make what we do so fun so great.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
But no, I mean that's.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Something I think, and maybe it's not totally out of
help that I just was like, oh, I'll just find out,
Like you know, there's a bit of a not knowing
is less scary.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
What was you you and your mom's relationship, like when
you were deciding you were going to do this for real?
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's a great question. They wanted me to get a degree.
My dad more than my mom, probably, but they wanted
me to get a degree. So I went to college
and then ironically met Charles and Dave two and a half.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Two years in to getting a degree. I was probably
on a.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Five year plan from being honest, just because I was
writing so much in town and was taking kind of
the minimum hours per semester. But you know, I think
she wanted me. And this is how I feel about
my girls. I want them to pursue their dream. I
would never deter them from doing the same thing I'm
doing if that's what they want to do, if that's
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what they feel more than what they want to do,
what they feel called to do.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
But she was always supportive, always.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Supportive, and and protective at times, probably wanted me to
ask more questions than I did early on, But I
think that she really gave me the space to find
my way and then has been an unbelievable cheerleader.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
The Bobby Cast will be right back, m This is
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
So your names, though have never been obviously Hillary Scott,
her name, Linda Davis, what's the name, what's the real name? Situation?
There is that really her last name?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
So her maiden name is Davis, got it, and then
my dad is lang Scott, and so then my sister
and I, you know, their two daughters, and.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
So she's kept her maiden name.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Was there ever a time where you thought, maybe if
I got why Davis, people will know that, Like what
about the because your mom definitely well known, especially in
town and also in country music. Did you ever think
you wanted to use that to your advantage or was
it you just so didn't want to use that.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I don't know what If it's it's the I was
an only child for fourteen years, but I'm first born
of two. I don't or maybe it's my own stubbornness
or pride. I never wanted it to appear like I
was writing their coattails at all. I wanted to establish
my own, you know, my own path, which always included
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their colleagues because they had been here and been a
part of so much of what Nashville has been doing
for so many decades. But I never wanted to ride
their coat tails. I mean, I was like, probably stubborn
to a fault with that. I would have been like,
no way, am I gonna not because I don't love
my Davis family. But I was like, no, I'm Hillary Scott,
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and we'll see. I want to see how this goes.
It rises and falls on on.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Mebe and me.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
What did you think think before you met Charles and
Dave your career was going, if you could have chosen it,
what did you think it will be?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I honestly, I had gotten a development deal the year before,
in two thousand and five with another label in town,
and I had showcased for that label March of two
thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
They passed.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
We had packed it out, the showcase felt like it
went great.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Victoria Shaw was producing me.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
We had We've had strong songs, and we even got
great feedback.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
From the label.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
But by the next morning they had said, no, we've
decided to go with another artist.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
So I met the I met Charles and Dave two
months later.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Like after that, no, after that first big kind of
industry career heartbreak, I meet the two of them, I
think I would.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Have probably.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
If not for me, them just tunneled way into songwriting.
I don't know if a solo artist career from that age,
I don't know if I could have handled it. I
just have always thrived in collaboration, in community and friendship
(46:23):
and being able to work together with people as in
kind of being a part of a team. I would
like to think I could have, but I think I
would have felt so alone, lonely, and I just really
enjoy collaborating.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
With the two of them.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
So I think I would have written a lot, and
then if given an opportunity, I would have jumped. But sustainability,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I don't know. It's really interesting to think about.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Whenever you think about you now, so you're trying to
make it a solo artist for whatever reason that doesn't work.
Timing probably it's always weird timing. But then you meet
these two and where they they were already together. I
mean they already were buddies rightway.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
They were, Yeah, because they've known each other since middle school,
right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
But now you're going from I'm going to be a
solo artist who I'm possibly going to be a third
of something. What kind of mental gymnastics did you have
to do there?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Meaning like sharing it?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, because it's you on stage, it's you when you're
the solo artist.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I I don't think I I don't think I really
thought about it.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
It was.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
This what we're doing is so creatively invigorating and fun.
And this feels so natural, even though it's new, even
though we communicate totally different, and we're figuring out how
to become friends while we start a banded and start
a business. I just it was fun and it was
(47:59):
it felt right, not easy, you know, And I think
being naive and young, I was so young, I didn't
know any different, you know, and I just knew what
I'm doing. These songs.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
This friendship that's growing just feels like where I want
to be.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Whenever you guys start to become a unit, even if
you haven't taken it out yet. Was it going to
be we are going to be us three, We're going
to have a name, nobody's names on it? Was that
always the plan? Or was it you know, okay, we'll
write the songs you think? Was that always it? We're
going to be a trio, let's go.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
So it happened so organically because I'm at Charles. He
mentioned Dave that they had just moved up day from Atlanta,
Charles from North Carolina to start writing songs.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
We start writing.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
The first song we ever wrote is a song called
All We'd Ever Need that was not originally a duet
and they would say that, Like Charles I think had
spoken to Dave to say, hey, this artist Hillary.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
She has some traction.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
She just had a development deal but it fell through.
She's got great songs. Maybe we can write for her.
Because they were kind of in that same They were
in that headspace of we want to write songs, we'd
love to get cuts. Charles was doing some songs some
shows on his own, I think, opening up for his
brother Josh here and there. But I think they came
into it thinking we'll write and she can, maybe we'll
(49:29):
write songs for her. Well, then we wrote all we'd
ever need and I was like, this is a duet,
like you've got to sing the second verse. And so
then when that happened and then the harmonies came in.
That was how it just kind of continued to evolve
into a trio.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
The first showcase you guys did, do you remember it?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
How'd that go?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Awkward?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (49:51):
It was so awkward being on stage.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
I mean I had done Family Christmas Show at Apryland
for three years, like I'd done Christmas songs, but actually
performing like with a the band original material was so foreign
and new to me. So being able to learn how
to you know, interact with him.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
With Charles and Dave on stage.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
This it was Third and Lensley and it was before
they renovated, and the stage was literally about the size
of the space right here.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
It was so tiny. So Charles is.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Sixty six, I'm five to nine, Dave six ' to one.
It was a whole lot of like almost decking each other,
you know, with arm moves. So it was awkward, but
it was fun. It was exciting.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
How did it go?
Speaker 3 (50:41):
It went good?
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I mean, I want to say Josh Kelly, Charles's brother,
had us open for him, and then then we kind
of got a standing gig like every few weeks at
Third and Lindsley. And then Josh went and did a
show in North Carolina at this open air kind of
amphitheater let us open up for him. I mean, so
many things just started happening that we were like, how.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
In the world is this happening? And we just kind
of show up.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
We say, yes, how long until you guys get signed?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
So we met in May of two thousand and six,
played our first show in August of that year, and
we signed our deal. We started negotiating our deal in
February of two thousand and seven. Officially signed the contract
in the summer of seven, and love Don't Live Here
Anymore came out fall of seven.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
It went fast.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
When I was considering moving here, there's no way you'll
remember this, So don't don't have like you do. You
won't remember it. Whenever I was considering coming here because
there had never been like a national country show before,
and I had built my own company over in pop
and I built my own syndication company and spent my
own money and had made it work. But again, I
(51:53):
was getting a bit of flag because I would have
Willie on my pop show or Eli Youngband or Dirk's
or and they would go, well, you have an accent.
When I was in a bunch of markets, but they
were like, you kind of sound like a hillbilly on
a pop station. You know. That was kind of And
so I was like, Okay, we'll go to Nashville. And
I came to you guys shooting some promos and I
sat and you guys were so nice to me, and
(52:15):
I was I was just a dude that was sitting there.
Where were we in some sound stage? You guys were
so nice to me and it was. It was really
one of the contributing factors to me going, you know,
this feels uncomfortable because I'm giving up something that I built,
but I feel like I can do some like I
think it'd be naturally more me to do this. But
I just remember how nice you guys were to me
(52:37):
and going, man, if that's what people are like, They're like,
I'm in that's so kind. Yeah, so and I don't
even know. I wish I knew what you guys were doing,
but you guys were And then McGraw was there too,
who McGraw obviously older, way older, but like legend, and
I remember him coming up and being like, what's up? Man?
And I was like, what's that? What? What planet are
(52:59):
these people? But you guys were so kind to me.
And I don't think I've ever told you guys that story,
but it really factored in to me moving here because
of that. I just have a couple of questions, final
questions for you here. And we talked about the new
music you guys have put out and before you got here.
But I was at a restaurant down near where our
(53:20):
dogs are, and I saw this guy, really good looking,
chiseled guy, get an earring in dressed extremely fashionable. I
was like, that guy's got to be somebody, and he
wouldn't turn around. But he was so just strikingly handsome
and had on just the exact like right that I
(53:41):
would never be able to pull off. And so I
was like, I need to stop staring. So I walked
over to get my drink and he comes over and
he grabs him by the shoulders. He goes Bobby and
it's one of the guys from for King Country. Yes, yes, yes,
and with who I really like, and we have our
own text thread the Bone Family. Yes and so but
(54:02):
are you have something coming? Yeah? Their movie is happening.
That's right, And did you do something with them?
Speaker 3 (54:09):
I did? Okay, So it was it Joel or Luke Joel?
So yes, they asked me. So we collaborated on a song.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
I featured on a song called for God Is with
us on their last record and had so much fun.
We had kind of reached out to each other over
the years since my Christian project in twenty sixteen about
doing things together. It just never worked out. They send
me the song that I already knew because I was
(54:38):
such a fan. So I sing on.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
That song with them.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Well, then a couple months later I get a call and.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
They're like, so, we're shooting this movie.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
We've written the story of how our family migrated here
from Australia. Crazy story, by the way, is unbelievable, right, unbelievable,
and we need Someonehillary, dear Hillary, to sing and play
the role of the worship leader in the church that
we started go into when we moved to Nashville. So
(55:12):
I am lol Aanne Lilianne Meese is my character's name.
It is a It's such a small role, but such
an incredible opportunity to kind of dip my toe. Oh
my gosh, I had so much fun. Again, it's just
being a part of a team, being a part of
a cast. I am definitely still so much more comfortable
singing than speaking on camera. But it was a great
(55:36):
experience and I got to screen the movie a couple
months ago.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Comes out April twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
It is an unbelievable film just about the resilience of
family and how they just dug in and went through
just such highs, such lows, but stayed together. And their mother,
I mean, who's the true Miss Helen is the that
she's the unsung hero.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
I mean, that's who the whole film.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Is really honoring and about, and I highly encourage everyone
to see it because it's it's powerful.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Parallel as well. They you know, their sister was famous, yes,
and they were like, we are not our brothers sister.
They didn't weren't. They weren't saying we're not, but they
just that was not their thing, right. They wanted to
go and see if they had what it took to
They're awesome. They are like, it's next level.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
They bring the the bells and whistles of any pop
show you can ever imagine they bring to their shows.
And the music is so dynamic, and the producers that
they work with, like sonically it's just so interesting. And
they're they're amazing. They're such incredible people friends. And yeah,
(56:49):
I I'm very very grateful for the small bones.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
That watching them perform because I knew them before I
saw them perform. It was like, I don't know those
aliens performing on stage because those rock It was it
was crazy to watch how good they were.
Speaker 4 (57:04):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our
sponsor h Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Final question, what do you hope people say behind you
find your back m M.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
I would say my hope is that I hope that
people would say that I'm kind.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Definitely, you know, have I have my moments where anxiety
or stress or something that I'm preoccupied with gets the
best of me. But that I'm kind, and that I
think that you know that my own personal prayers for
(57:59):
growth over these last few years is just to be.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Kind no matter what and to grow in wisdom.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
So I think that would be the other hope as
I get older, continue to get older, is that.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Something I said mattered to them?
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Is that kind of We'll just use the word Monserrat's
easiest for everybody? Is that kind of it? To be kind?
Is that mine is don't complain?
Speaker 3 (58:27):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
Like I really try not to complain because it doesn't
mean no good. It does no one else any good either,
So I try not to complain. Is yours to constantly
try to But it's hard, by the way, I don't
do a good job up all the time because I
complain like crazy? But is that what it is for you?
To just try to be kind? Because you don't know
what everybody or anybody else is kind?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Of going through yeah, to be kind and also and
know that like that that doesn't it doesn't always come easy,
dependent on the dependent on where you are in your life,
but that it's always the better choice. I'm always more
(59:08):
I always go to bed at night with more peace
in my heart. And you know one thing I've been
saying to my girls a lot lately, when we're talking
about sharing or you know, working through things with friends,
it's like, and this isn't in a you pursue perfectionism
kind of way, but it's like, go make a choice,
Go do something that you think would make God smile.
(59:29):
That's what That's what I want them. I want that
motivation to be for them. That's my prayer for them,
is like, hey, let's go make people smile, but let's
make God smile with the way that you're treating your friends,
taking care of yourself and experiencing life.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
As we mentioned earlier, Love You Back a love song.
You guess follow both Lady A and Hillary Scott LA
which seems like Los Angeles, but I know it's Lady Ah.
I do, I do, But every time I see it,
I think it's like Hillary's got Los Angeles. But I'm
just a massive fan of you as a person and
the band obviously, but I have such a different relationship,
(01:00:07):
Like Dave is the reason that I even went on
site and had a lot of like, you know, there
was I was going through some stuff, But I have
a different relationship with all of you guys so distinctly
and different and then all together as well, and you're
all like, it's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. Like I wanted
(01:00:29):
to punch Charleston's face a few times and him me,
but but that even makes us better friends, you know,
it's real. Yeah, And Dave has been like right in
my ear in times where I've been like hey, man,
like that guy is solid. So I'm a big fan
of you, big fan of the group. Thank you for
coming in and spending the time you and you guys.
(01:00:49):
You're done with a tour though, right for now? Will
you do a tour where you take no request and
only do songs that people have never heard of? Because
that would be opposite if it would the other way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
What, That would be creatively really exciting for me and
possibly very boring for the fans.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
We'll see only deep cuts, but not even your deep cuts. Yes,
deep cuts from your favorite.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Artist, other artists that would be hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Oh my god, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
Host
Bobby Bones
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