On this episode of the BobbyCast, Bobby sits down with American Idol finalist, HunterGirl. Hunter discusses what her life was like before and after American Idol, if she was upset that she didn't win and the origin behind her stage name. Plus, Bobby and Eddie discuss Billboard's greatest pop stars of the 21st century list.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I feel like that just part of me, especially right now,
and that's what my Paul would call me. And so
whenever I come up on stage and have the name
that a lot of people called me when I was
growing up, it kind of always just reminds me of home.
That's how I feel when I think of it.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode four eighty six, We will walk through the Well.
Billboard has listed as the greatest pop stars of the
twenty first century. So they did the year two thousand
and on, and we were recording this in the studio
and people kept walking in out of the room, so
like Eddie tried, Abby tried, Amy ends up coming in
and trying, like how many could they get off the list?
We debated it ourselves. That's coming up, and also the
(00:42):
song Ymca and the village people and how there's been
a misunderstanding about them. That's coming up in a little
bit as well. I do want to start though with
Hunter Girl, who I got to know doing the Grand
Ole Opry. Did some stuff with her. It was I
think military appreciation night I was hosting the Opry. She
was Perferre. She does a lot of riding with veterans
(01:03):
and so that's why she was there, but that's how
we got to know each other. And she was on
Idol the year after I left, so I did not
know her from American Idol. But she's awesome. She played
our saintued radio time. She made her Grand ol Opry
debut this year. She toured Luke Bryan this summer. She
has her EP Tennessee Girl that is available now, and
she has like Christmas songs and like Hallmark movies. Right, yeah,
(01:24):
that's pretty cool. Uh so, uh Hunter Girl, you're gonna
hear about her big fan. We'll go here first and
then we'll do that list of the biggest pop stars
right after that. Right, we're here with Hunter Girl. I
guess we me Mike, So we had these smellings. You
just saw me freak out.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh my gosh. I was like, are you done? And
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I did not, So we have We were doing a
bit on the show with smelling salts and smelling salts
it's kind of an ammonia thing. I see trainers use
them on athletes when they get like their bell wrong
playing football. Yeah, and so I bought some off Amazon
and they're not bad for you. But we had never
used them, and I thought that I guess all the
smell is gone. So the smell ever leave, I don't know,
(02:06):
And that's what I thought, So I thought it had weakened.
So I took a big smell, and it's tough. You
want to smell, you know, don't smell hard.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I'm kind of I'm kind of intrigued. You're kind of terrified.
Start of a horror movie.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I the thing about you and what I know about you,
is like you'll go like you do you have no
I shouldn't say no fear because we don't have fears,
but like you just tend to go for it. So
I I would recommend, if you could, you just watch
us do it. Not to smell it hard, just just
slightly smell it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm not give it like a little like a little
whiff like a Yankee candle.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Kind of don't do that. Don't go Yankee candy. I
didn't want to give it. I don't want to you're
if you're.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
A Yankee dun dump you mean it's like a doll up.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Just you don't take it out, just just barely smell it. Yeah, yeah,
but like terrified.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's even in like in a little black there's a
devil ont devil demon, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I'm telling you, don't go hard hun her. O, god,
it feels like that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, it feels like I put like red hot chili
flakes in my nose and just swirled it around.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But saw the only reason I even bring it up
to her she saw me do it and freak out
and I needed to explain what was happening.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And you were so close to it. How are you?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Uh, I'm good, Like I'm backing Mountain Pine dude. Oh
my god, I'm seventeen years old. Okay, Hunter, let's do
the basics. Okay, that I know, But I feel like
having you here and being able to like talk with
you in this setting because you have interviewed me before, Yes,
and I really enjoyed. I thought you were really great
at that job. I think I think I told you that.
I think I was. I was like, hey, you're actually
(03:35):
really good at this. You're better than this than somebody
they just stick up there.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh my gosh. I was scared to dad, So thank
you for my first time interviewing people.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And I was like, oh my god, acm red carpet. Yes, Dallas,
how'd you get that job.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
With Country now yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, that's ripe. Yeah, so what'd you think about it?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It was so cool. And also just have so much
respect for you and everybody that's like interviewing people, because
it's like it's nerve wracking just to like keep conversations
going sometimes and be like hey and know whatever he's doing.
And so I'm like have like my research I've done prior,
and I'm like, I'm like studying it, like I have
like teacap coming up.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Or what's tea caps that Tennessee one.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's like whenever you would test in schools.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So we're from marketsall. We had a different version, but
I figured the tea was different. Yeah, so yeah, that
was fun. What the hardest part about doing any red
carpet interviews is sometimes people come up you have no
idea who they are, and they're just like, okay, here's
the here's Trent Fruh and he's and you're like, oh
my god. So you go like so why are you here?
You have to find a way to like be like
(04:33):
warm and inviting, but you have no idea who they are.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That was yeah, that was kind of scary. Sometimes I
was like, oh, I was like, so what do you
think of the not you know, and.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's like that's perfect, That's exactly That's what I do
sometimes here I'm like, so hunter girl, how about that
guitar string?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
How about the Yankees?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, from the start you but you grew up in Tennessee. Yes, yeah,
how far from Nashville?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I guess a couple hours.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Did you Did you come to Nashville for anything? Or
would you go to Atlanta? Or where was the city? Chattanooga?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So we'd go to Chattanooga a lot. Like we came
up to Nashville from time to time because I have
family up here, so for holidays we'd come up here sometimes.
But I just always wanted to be here.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
If there was a concert, though, would it be in Chattanooga?
If you were going to go to a shore, where
would a concert be?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I would say, we'd come to Nashville for a concert,
and then like shopping and stuff, we'd go Chattanooga.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, was Chattanooga. I'm from a small town, so we
had going to town?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Did you have going to town?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I did have going to town.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Where was town?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It was like Tellahoma area, And so it's like, oh,
we got to go to the grocery store, cause we.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Are Walmart was ours Walmart town started.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Walmart was like a whole trip. It was like it
was like an hour and a half endeavor. We'd go
through every all and Mom would perus and what was
your hometown?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
How many people? What's there?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's right now, it's near tams Ford Lake. And so
we had like a Walmart, we had like three Mexican
restaurants and a Sonic.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You had three Mexican restaurants. Yeah, there was Yeah, what
a battle that is?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I know. I was like, how like how many people
can we get in the and all the Mexican restaurants.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Not a single Chinese restaurant, but restaurant.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, we did recently get a Chinese restaurant and a
dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
How big is the town population wise? Idea?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I would say, I have no idea. Yeah, I know
that I was like related to everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But that's just from the South more so than it is. Yeah,
like ken, Yeah that's what I say to my show.
I'm like, yeah, we uh can't And they're like, what
does ken mean? I'm sorry, we're related. That's a term, Yeah,
it really is, which means ken. It's like ken Folk,
I'm trying to root that. So ken Folk though, what
would ken be rooted? Why would why would we say?
(06:36):
Because all this is so natural, I've never thought about
why it exists. What would ken be if it's I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Guess like ken folk and that they wanted to make
it shorter but.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
For Yeah, but I wonder where ken Folk even came from.
I'm gonna look that I don't know. Uh, so you
moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
When twenty sixteen is when I graduated high school?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So moved right here?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, right after I graduated. I was like, see y'all,
love y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Were you a high school music head?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
They didn't really have a lot of music at my
high school, Like I played in just like the bars
and coffee shops and restaurants, and so whenever I was
like fifteen, I started looking at places around and started
calling or walking in my mom and dad would drive me.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And so you did play places though, Yeah, why did
you get your first guitar? How old were you and
why did you want one?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I was? I guess fourteen is when I started playing.
I'd have the guitar for a while, and I just
wanted to be able to like put the songs that
I heard in my head onto an instrument, Like I
played bass first, And.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Did you have a brother or sister that played the
real guitar and that's why you played the bass.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
No, there was like a band that needed a bass player.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I was always in need yeah, need, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And I was like okay. I was like, I'm gonna
learn how to play bass so I can like get
a gig. And then after a while I was like,
I'm writing a lot of songs but don't really know
how to get them out, and so I started playing guitar.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Anybody musical in your family, No.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Not at all, which is the wild part, just because
mom and dad were like, oh my gosh, what do
we do with her?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
What did they do with you? It sounds like they
supported you.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
They did. Yeah. They would just take me around like
we don't really know what we're doing, but we support you,
and take me to shows. And I would find like
little venues on Facebook and I was back, I guess
about a few months ago, and I found like a
stack of paper I had when I was fifteen in
my handwriting. It was like call Amy back and call
Maggie over at this bar or coffee shop, and so
(08:23):
I would just kind of grinding.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So you're hustling gigs at fifteen and sixteen years old, yes,
And what's interesting about your parents not being musical is
it wasn't like they could give you advice on how
to get gigs. Not that they were anti, but they
did not live in that world. Yeah, and neither did you.
But you just started calling, going can I come play?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
M hm?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You remember the first show gig you ever got paid
for anything at all?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yes. There was a marina back home and it was
like where like all the boats would come on Friday
nights and I didn't know if they had music or not,
but I just walked down was like, hey, like, can
I just play guitar here? Is that cool? And they're
like yeah, And so I was like and if you
like it, like you know, like let me like y'all
come back, and they did and they were like okay cool,
and people stayed and they're like, okay, we'll pay you
(09:04):
one hundred bucks and I was like okay. I was like,
I was like, oh my god, I'm freaking rich. I
like walked in front of mom and dad. I was like,
oh sorry, And and so then from there, I just
started trying to book gigs in town and be like, hey,
if you like it, just let me know. And so
I was getting paid like, you know, fifty bucks, one
hundred bucks. And then mom and dad were like, we
don't know what to do next, Like why don't we
make you a T shirt and see how that goes?
(09:26):
And so I was selling T shirts and stuff at
the gigs back home.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Sounds like your parents loved you. They did, they do.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And I think it was hard on them not knowing,
you know, what the path was. And I was like,
it's just I don't think really anybody does. And it
just kind of working hard and trying to get lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Look at you just going I'll play for free and
if you like it, then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, it's like okay, here like try it out, try
this drug. Oh my gosh, here's my jacket.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So at what point did you think, because again, you
knew when you graduated high school you're moving here, and
you did, But when did that start to be a
reality that it even cut because they come from a
sometime nobody did anything like that Nashville. It was kind
of close. Yeah, but it's still You're from a small
town that still could feel like ten million miles away
from like country music and where it's all made. When
did you decide that was a reality.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think that, like I always knew the goal was Nashville,
just because I was like, Okay, everybody that plays music
is there, and I want to be surrounded by that.
And I actually went to a writer's round at the
Third and Lensley whenever I was sixteen, and I got
to see Luke Laird play and Barry Dean and I
was like, oh my gosh, songwriting. I was like, these
are the songwriters. And I was like, I was like,
(10:39):
I think I really want to write songs with other
people because I was just written by myself at the house.
And so whenever I moved to Nashville, that was one
of my goals. I was like, I want to figure
out like what a co ride is and getting into town.
And then I started playing on Broadway right when I
got here for I guess like two and a half years,
and it was like seven days a week and eight
eight hours a day while going to school.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
How did you while going to school? Oh, I'm gonna
get back to that too. Yeah, how did you get
your first Broadway gig? Who did you call everyone? And
finally someone said, come audition.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What happened, Well, it kind of happened out of the blue.
My grandfather was in the VA hospital in Murphy's Burrow
and I was over there and I would come sing
to like the people over there, and one of the
guys he was a retired veteran, and he was like, hey, like,
I have a bar and would you want to come sing?
And he's like, I'll let you like audition to play
and I was like, okay, sounds good. And he's like,
let's be there tomorrow. And then he was like, do
(11:30):
you just want to stay and play the play the gig?
And I was like yeah, And that's how I got
my job.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And does that job? In having a job, did it
make it easier to get other jobs because you could
then go, I've I have a work history.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I because I started out just playing the shows
and then I moved into like, you know, making all
the flyers and doing all the merch and then I
was just like learning things on the fly. I was
eighteen and like, and then I started booking some of
the stages. By the time I was like nineteen or twenty.
And so I learned like every kind of peace of
just how to like run a venue and like play shows.
(12:05):
And I really didn't know what I was doing half
the time, but I told everybody I did it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I was like, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I can do that job.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's that's a creative life in general. Fake it, fake it,
And while you're faking it, your learning as you go,
and then eventually you figured it out, only to realize
you never actually figured it out, because it's all changed
while you were learning it exactly. So you're playing these
stages on Broadway, but were you old enough to even
get into the bar? No?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And so they were like you can't, like no alcohol
around at all you And I'm like, do not worry,
Like I just want to I just want to pay
rent and I just want to learn how to play shows.
And I really learned a lot down there, just like
how to run the lots or like if something wasn't working,
and got used to just being around people and talking
to people and learn how to harmonize. And because you're
(12:49):
on stage with two other people, like at least I was,
and I never knew who was going to be there,
that day I kind of found out who I was
playing with, Mourning of.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You were in school at the same time. Yeah, were
you in school?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I went to MTSU.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay, and I knew you were going to say that
that's not close. No, it's forty five minutes right, yeah,
or more. I mean every time I've driven out there,
the roads aren't They're not Interstates, no, and.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Old Fort park ways wild. But yeah. So I would
set my schedule. So I started like classes around like
seven or eight, and then I get done at around
like one, and then I would go drive to play
and do two o'clock till usually about ten or sometimes
I would like pick up other people's shifts, and so
I was doing like doubles those days.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Were you making tips? Like mostly it was tips? All tips?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, pretty much. I was getting paid like forty bucks
to play, and then it was like you still had
to pay for parking, which is like fifteen twenty bucks,
and so everything I was making was off of tips.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
At what point, because you said you played a couple
of years on Broadway, at what point do you start
to I don't want to say question yourself, but question
the situation. Yeah, and go man, spent a couple of years.
I'm still here. When does that start to seep in?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think it started sweeping in. I would say by
year like probably probably year two. I think just because
in the beginning, I'm just like, Okay, I need to
learn how to entertain and I just kept learning things
along the way, and I was like, I think I
want to, like really dive back into songwriting a little
more because I didn't have a lot of time with
between working in school, and so then I started writing
(14:26):
with people again and kind of using that part of
my brain less than the like just entertaining people part.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
How far did you get in school?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I graduated twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's crazy. It's awesome that you graduated. And I don't
think college for everybody. Yeah, but the fact that you
did both and still graduated. Was that a priority of
your parents?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It was like, yeah, it mattered a lot to my parents,
but I think for me too, just because I was like,
I just want to I just want to graduate. And
I learned a lot being at MTSU, and just my
professors have been in like the music industry and gave
really good advice. I still talk to them now, and
so I was whenever I graduated, I was like, oh,
I was like, should I go to school? Should I not?
(15:05):
And obviously Mom and Dad were kind of pushing me in.
I'm so glad that I did, though.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, that's that's awesome. I mean I went to school
the full time every time I worked for and it
was really hard because I lived an hour away from school.
Oh that's the same thing, it's all yeah, And so
it was, you know, seven am. They would say, don't
take eight am classes, but there were certain seven am
classes I had to take, and then I would work
till eleven or noon or at school and then drive
an hour be at station till eleven or midnight and
(15:31):
just grind it out.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's so it's so hard and you're just like what
kind of coffee was I drinking or like what was
going on at that time? And it was just like
you just figured it out.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah. And it was also like I think to me too,
I would get so tired. I think it killed my
creativity a lot of times. Yeah, but I felt like
it was a necessity that if I could just get
through it, I would be so much happier because I
had a comp no one in my family'd never been
graduated high school, much less college, so it was so
importan had to me to finish college. And there will
be times that I would be exhausted, much like what
(16:02):
you're talking about. You'll be exhausted, but I would just
have to get myself through going. When it's over, I
am going to be so happy that I did all
of this. And it sounds like you are you sounds
like you're proud of yourself for it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, it was. It was so hard, you know, trying
to you know, have the career in Nashville or just
like build something that I was proud of, and then
also trying to do school at the same time and
feel like you're kind of split apart in two ways.
It's like I'm going to school, you know for the
things that I'm trying to do now and write songs
and all that, and so yeah, just one of those
things where you just have to push yourself through it. Like, hey,
(16:36):
one day, like you're going to be on.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
The other side of the future.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I look at the future a lot and be like,
one day you'll be happy about this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I'm curious as to how you try to kind of
expand in Nashville because you're playing shows and you're going
to school, but there are a lot of people that
you need to meet and things you need to have
happened in the Daytimeah, like, how did you manage to
do that while you were doing both?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So I would go out to like writers' rounds and
stuff like after shifts, and if I got done it
at six, I'd be like, Okay, then I can go
out and see the writers' rounds. And that's how I
met a lot of my friends, like.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
The executives that would like publishing deal stuff like that.
When you're pursuing one of those, Like how do you
meet those people? Same?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Uh, well, kind of harder. It's like whenever I was out,
you know, i'd meet somebody that knew somebody else and like, hey,
write with me, and then somebody would have a publishing deal,
and so I start writing with publish writers. And but
I started writing with like a meeting with publishers. I
guess around I was around my senior year of college,
and I was so excited. I was like, oh my gosh,
(17:34):
like I'm gonna get a publishing deal, and you know,
the kind of the world shut down.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But oh, that's when COVID.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's when COVID hit and one of my friends from
college had set me in to a program that ASCAP
had and he had submitted my songs because he had
had them, and so they picked like eight writers that
year and they will get the meetings with publishing companies,
and so one of my friends did that for me
and uh, and so that's how I started having public meetings.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Did you land a publishing deal?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
No, I didn't because twenty twenty it was a few
months later and I was having all these meetings and
then we had to all go back home.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I guess you're right, like, no one is going to
start anything new or spend any new money.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Once COVID happened, it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Was like the Yeah, the whole world shut down. And
I just was like, I'm trying to graduate college at
the same time and just trying to figure out what
to do.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So I think I missed you on Idol by one season. Oh, no,
I was there for four years. I think you were
on after I went to NBC. I think it was
the next year. Yeah, it was it years season five,
do you know on ABC because.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They called it like season twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, but for us, they made us call it season
five because it was ABC season or whatever it was. Yes,
I remember, I think you were the first season I
wasn't on, so I watched because I was really wanting
to show the bomb and because I was gone and
you're awesome, Oh thank you, and that experience like being
in it because I was every episode for four years,
like I was there working with every contestant and it
(18:59):
was really something at first that was very fulfilling to me.
And then it just became a TV show. Yeah, but
it's way different than it used to be, meaning like
you're not bound anything. I don't know if you are,
but they almost can't convince people to come on the
show if they're like we own you after Like who
would go on anything at that point?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Why idol? Like what happened? Was that process?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So kind of what was happening during that time? It
was I guess twenty we're stud we're doing Like the
zoom Zoom was still like really prevalent, but I had
had this show like ten minutes from my house and
I was just setting up my gear and it was
like right next to the bath of body works, Like
I was freaking crushing it. And this girl that I'd
(19:42):
met at the gym about three days three days prior,
because I'd joined a gym for free and invited everybody
was like hey, let come over. I'm like right across
the road and they came in and I got an
email about IDOL I guess the previous day. It's like,
you should audition. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna
think about it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
How do they know you?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It was a lady named Leanne Falen had like said
that she was helping out, and she was like, hey,
you should do this, and I was like okay, and
I was like, let me think about it. And then
the girl that I met the gym, she'd move from
California like a week ago and she used to be
a producer on IDOL, and she was like, hey, you
should audition. And I was like okay, two times in
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two days, Like that's a sign. I'm going to go
for it. And I'd been praying for a sign for
the unrelated. They didn't know each other, they didn't know
each other at all, and I was like okay, God.
I was like like is this is this is the path?
Like I'm I'm all in and I'm just going to
see what happens. And I'd auditioned for all kinds of
talent shows like multiple times whenever I was younger, and
nothing ever worked, and so I was like, Okay, let's
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just give it a shot, and it completely want adied everything.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So did you audition on Zoom? Was it still Zoom auditioning?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We had to do a whole season on when COVID hit.
We had to do a whole season. It was awful.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's that's so hard.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Like I would be talking to on Zoom and then
they would have to like set up their own cameras,
like we they had to get them all their crap
and they had to set it up themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It was. It was yeah, really rotten, but you actually
opened they'd opened up and you got to go back.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
They did that. This season was the one where it
like we still had to be masked and everything. Uh,
but like whenever we were like filming, we could take
them off and stuff. We're still doing COVID tests.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Do you know you remember any of your producers? Like,
do you remember anybody that like ran you managed? You?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Annie was somebody I worked with a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
How'd you enjoy the experience.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Like it was just such like a learning experience being
on there and being out in California. I'd never been
out there, and just all the lots and the cameras,
and you know, it's kind of scary, uh at first
when you're just you're like, am I saying the right thing?
Like what what is this going to be like? And
I think nerve wracking, And it's kind of put you
in a situation where there's a melting pot of people
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with so many different kinds of voices, and so I
feel like you compare yourself to each other a lot
because it's a competition and you can get to your head.
But for the most part, like I had a really
good time getting to be out there and learn, and
obviously sometimes it was really really.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Hard and no sleep. It's a factory, it's a TV show. Yeah.
I would work an interview like we would do this,
let's just say you and I do it for two hours,
and they would use a thirteen second clip sometimes, yes,
and you never know what the narrative is that's being
built about or around you. Yeah, you know, because they
have full control over it. How did you feel like
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you represented on the show.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I feel like they got really close to who I
was as a person. And one of the main things
that was kind of in my story on the show is,
you know, working with veterans, and that's something I've done
for a lot of my life, and getting to have
them whenever I came to my hometowns is just because
I never got to meet some of these people because
I'd started this Zoom class in twenty twenty writing songs
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with vets, and this was my first time getting to
meet these people in person, and just getting to have
that experience and see those people and just being with
my hometown and those are things that I'll just never
forget because it's just everybody in the community came together
and had my back.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Did your Instagram follow and go way up?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Pretty cool?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Huh Oh, that was wild.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Like that's the real currency I've doing something like that now.
It's that it's building followers that will stay with you
after the show.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah. I think I had like maybe like three thousand
or two thousand followers before the show started, and then
it just like after the audition, after like mine went
out on TV. It was just it was wild seeing
that happen because you never know if people are gonna
like you or not and you still never know though, because.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
How far did you get runner up? You got runner up?
I got runner up. I didn't know you made it
to the very very very And did you think you
were gonna win?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I really I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know how
it was going to go.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I would just you stood there when you open when
Ryan opened the envelope. Yes, that is such a tense.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's such a chance moment, just because it's a silent
when you're looking around ex and.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I love Ryan, I know Ryan.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's like dot dot dot dot and I'm like, oh
my gosh, and like like I just didn't know how
it was going to go because I was so close
to everybody on the show and I was like, whatever happens,
like it's gonna be okay. I'm gonna go back to
Nashville and I'm gonna start writing songs and doing the
thing again. And I think the hardest part was just
the like the silence and the lots and just looking
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at my family. I think was hard just because they're crying,
like the whole finale, just like in general, just with
all the songs and.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, so and I would tell the artist contestants. Some
were kids somewhere, young adults. I would go My thing
to them was just last on the show as long
as you can, doesn't matter if you win. Yeah, Like,
you got out of it the same thing that who won.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Noah Thompson, you.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Got out of the same he got out of it.
It's just just screen time. Yeah, can you get on
screen as much as possible to see if people connect,
And it's hard. It's also hard for people to connect
when you're doing covers, right, But that's what that show
is because they want familiarity, because people are watching and
they want to see familiar songs. But I would tell them, like,
it's it's sure, it's about winning, but it's not because
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it's right now. Anytime you're on camera on screen, that's
like you being on a stage somewhere in the country,
but times ten thousand. Yeah, you're just winning people over eyeballs.
So the fact that you got to the very last performance,
that's the same thing as winning.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, Like I felt I felt like good about just
because I got I was really excited because they let
me play two originals while I was on there, and
they encouraged me to do one of them because I'd
sent it in the cover that week and then descend
in a song. I was like, hey, what do y'all
think of this? They're like, hey, do you want to
play it? And I was like yeah. So they let
me play a few originals while I was on the show,
which is really cool.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
What was your favorite cover to play?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh? I think girl Crush by a Little Big Town.
I'd stayed up all not like trying to get the
arrangement right because we'd changed it so many times, and
I didn't sleep before that performance. I was just and
also I was happy with how it went afterwards, but
I was about to cry myles out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Did you ever get sick during the weeks?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I just kept drinking a lot of water. I did
feel bad a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think everybody at some point has to deal with
some sort of illness or being run down which drops
your immune system, so then you get sick. So at
some point and I would just be like, don't even
tell people, just suck it up and you feel a
lot worse than you sound. Generally when people would perform sick,
but everybody's so worried, but they'd be like, well, I'm sick.
I like, don't even say it. Just go out and
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do your best because it's going to seem like you're
making an excuse. Yeah, but everybody gets sick on that show, yeah,
because they just run you. It's like boot camp for music.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
It really really is.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
What do you do when it's over? Like what's the
first thing when you finally get to come back.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It was wild because I flew home on my birthday
and after after the show?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Are you crushed because you didn't win?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I wasn't. I think it was just the motion of
it all. Like I was so happy for him, and
like getting off the stage and I remember like us
walking back to the trailer and I saw my mom
and dad as I was walking, and I like, I
just hugged him and everything, and it was just they
were just like like everything's okay. I'm like, like I'm
not worried about it, Like it's all gonna be fine.
(27:14):
And then we packed up our stuff and hopped on
a plane and went to New York And that was
my first time in New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
What were you doing in New York press?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We're doing press. So I didn't have any sleep and
I had my makeup on from the finale mayor and
it was the same and just walked in and changing
the bathroom of the interviews.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Why'd you do anything cool? Any?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, we did Good Morning America, which was so freaking
cool and Kelly and Rhan and so it was just
so neat getting to do that, and then immediately hopped
on a flight and didn't even know it was my
birthday and got back in the airport and I'm wearing
all my you know, finale gear, and people are coming
up and be like, oh my god, happy birthday. And
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I didn't think anybody would know, Like I know, we've
been in a bubble for so long, Like I don't
nobody's gonna know me, and people are like coming up
and taking pictures, and that's when I realized things it'd
like changed.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Why one word hunter girl? Why?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I know?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And I've heard the story. You know, you were the
only or whatever the version is, you were the only
uner in your class. It was a girl. But what
as a stage name and one word like all that
came together and you decided on it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
When why just because that's what everybody called me growing
up and my last name was walking Awski eleven letters
pretty rough, but I feel like that just part of me,
especially right now, and like, hey, hunter girl, Like, how
are you doing? That's what my Paul would call me.
And so whenever I come up on stage and have
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the name that a lot of people called me when
I was growing up, it kind of always just reminds
me of home. That's how I feel when I think
of it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Did I don't say anything to you about just going
by one name? Weirdly? Were they like, are you sure
you want to do this?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Uh? Like I think somebody had like mentioned it. They're like,
do you want to do hunter walking Awski? And I
was like, I think I want to be think I'm
gonna be hunter girl one word and they're like, that's cool.
People will remember it, and they were like, just go
for it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
People do remember. I remember going, oh, this girl's got
one name. I didn't even know what it was about.
I was like, this is cool, Like that's how I
was again. I was checking out the show I'd Adventures,
but you you never know who they're going to keep
on that show. I watched them edit people and like
two people in, but only to cut them out later,
but they'd already been eliminated, Like for for drama. So Hunter, though,
(29:26):
is your name? I remember asking I know the answer,
but I remember asking you this in the same way,
like what do I call you? Your friends call you that.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
My friends call me hunter like my like my Paul
will still he still calls me hunter girl, just because
that's what he always did. But my friends call me
hunter and uh. But on stage, it's like I kind
of get to separate myself a little bit. It's like
the Hunters going home and enter Pj's. But whenever I'm
on stage, I get to be Hunter girl.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What I would like for you to go back and
talk about, just for a second, when you talk about
writing with the veterans, which is how you and I
ended up together that night we were doing some veterans
stuff that operate together. Yeah, explain like what that is.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So I started writing writing with veterans when I was
about seventeen.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And why why would you write with veterans?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
My grandfa, my grandpa's in the service, and six of
my great uncles and I just got involved in. I
was just volunteering and singing songs for the people that
were writing the songs with the veterans. And so it's
always been something like meant a lot to me and
just seeing how much it like it affected my family too.
And basically what we do is we get in a
room with a veteran and we write their story about
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whatever they want to talk about, whether it's like something
in the service or somebody they miss or anything. And
it's kind of therapeutic in a way for them to
get to tell their story. And honestly, like, whenever I've
been in that room, it's like, you know, I'm lucky
enough to write a song every day, but this is
their first time that they get to feel that whatever.
Like it just makes me remember just like how good
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songwriting is for the soul. And I've written with gold
Star kids and gold Star families and so I've been
doing that consistently since I was about seventeen and still
do it. I had one a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Really, Yeah, when you finish Idol in that version that
season and you come back here, how do you get restarted?
And are there people now that are actually gonna take
your calls that didn't it before you left?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah? So I got back into town and You're like,
I wasn't guaranteed to deal or anything. I was like,
I don't really know what's gonna happen. And I was like,
I was little with my grandma before I got on
the show, and so I was like, Okay, I need
have like a place to live. Like I went back
home with my family for a while, and I was like,
but I got to get back because I already had
people wanting to write on that Monday, and I was like,
So I went home that weekend, saw my family. I
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was like, I need to get an apartment. I'm gonna
say with grandma for a little bit, and I need
to write songs because I was like, I need to
put music out. And so I started writing songs on
like two days later and just hit the ground running.
And then I got a call because I had a
book and agent. That's the book and agent had picked
me up, and so they called and they were like, hey,
do you have a band, And I was like, yeah,
of course I have a band, like because they were like,
(32:04):
we have a show like next week, and I did
not have a band, and so I was pretty calling
my friends It's like, can you be my band please?
And so I just kind of just bootstrap and everything.
And later on that year I ended up getting signed
to Broken Bow and BMG for publishing, and which is
the place that I wanted to be since I got
to town.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's really cool. Yeah, Tennessee Girl. Six songs, six songs, right, Yeah,
I think so. Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I think pretty sure too. I'm pretty sure six songs.
It's a EP, so is it too? Is this just
because I think it came out this summer?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
But is this is going to be part of a
larger project already working on something new now?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I think it'll be something new now. This was kind
of my first, like I would say, body of work
since Idle, and I really wanted to take my time,
like I put out a few singles, but I wanted
to figure out like who I was after the show
and get to kind of explore that more and what
I wanted my sound to be at that point. And
I think now working on new music and I've been
back in writing songs and getting to use my creative
(33:05):
brain since my touring has kind of coming to an
end at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's so hard to use touring branding creative brain at
the same time. Oh, it's it's so hard do it.
I'm like Wow, good for you. Yeah, Like if I
was like writing a book or even writing funny, I
just it was hard for me to do one really well.
If I was trying to do the other, well, environment
that doesn't feel good, not comfortable. So that's cool. You're
back and you're now focused on writing. Who is the Like,
(33:32):
what was it? Give me the coolest show you did
this year? Well, in with this, all the cool shows
you got to do, with.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The coolest shows, I think the coolest show that I
got to do was in Guildford, New Hampshire with the
Louke Bryant tour, And that was like the coolest thing
that I've ever gotten to be a part of in
my life. Like, his team is so awesome and he's
obviously incredible, and my family got to come up and
they got to see that, and they got to talk
to Luke and got to hang out with the band
(33:57):
and got to sit side stage and just getting like
letting them like get to be a part of that
after all the work they've done was really cool.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, Luca is a plus.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah in everywhere he rocks. Like the food was incredible,
Luke good catering, Oh my god, the catering was so good.
I was like, I was tired of beating gas station
jerky and the chips, and I was like, oh my god,
there's like tomato soup here.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That is a delicacy to people.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
All I know and is that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, you guys, follow Hunter Girl music, check out Tennessee Girl,
anything on when when's anything new coming out? You know,
there didn't have to be a date. But what are
you hoping for?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Dot dot dot?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But I would out hope by like started next year.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'd say, well, thank you for the time.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, you're like you're you're just generally good at this
type thing.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Oh, thank you. I like, I just like talking. I
never shut up, I think, And.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That's a big part of it. I mean it really is.
But also we have something to say when you do it.
Like I remember telling you, like, hey, you're really good
at this is the right carpet? Like I think you
know you're really good. You're a really good singer. I
have no idea good if a songwriter you are, because
I don't I've never sign a room with you. Yeah,
I'm sure you're fine, are good or great or terrible?
I don't know that part, but I can tell you
if you're a great singer and you're really good at this. Oh,
thank you, so like do this too. I would love
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to do this somehow, like be a be a person,
be because you have a really magnetic personality. You're really
warm and likable.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, and you and you speak with a bit of
authority on yourself where it feels like you're confident but
not cocky or fake confident, which means you're extremely insecure.
I just value it your whole psychologically. But I really
give in whatever you want to do. You have a
really really bright future ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So congratulations in the music part. You're really good at
this part, which is annoying to me. It took me
forever to be good. And I'm sure I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, i'd love that. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Good to see it.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Also, thank you for that book because I read it?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
What the fail until you don't you read that book?
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I read the book? Yeah? Why because because like i'd
watch like, all y'all you really read that. I read
the book.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, but I guess that's like the biggest compliments ago
now possibly good? No, thank you, Wow, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Thanks helped me through some rough stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
If you're lying, who cares? Don't know?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I think you promise I wouldn't lie.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's awesome. I want to do just to do it well.
And I wasn't complimenting you because I knew that either. No,
but you know you're awesome and I'm sure I will
see you soon at hundred Girl Music and until the
new stuff comes out, check out Tennessee Girl and that'll
do it. Thanks, Honn, thank you.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, Wow,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Did you see the list of the greatest pop Stars
of the twenty first century? Because if so, I can't
ask you these questions, but we can talk about it.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
No, I don't think I saw a list on that.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So it's from two thousand and one in Billboard and
it ended up being a bit controversial. But they want
controversy in these lists because this is how to get
people to click and talk about it. I mean, if
you put out a universal US that everybody agreed with,
people would look how to go Yeah, cool, cool, move on,
keep on scrolling. But they did put out the greatest
pop stars, and I have the top twenty five of
the two thousands to today.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I'm gonna I'm not gonna ask you to try to
name every one, but who do you think for sure
makes the list? Taylor Swift, so correct, she's in the
top five. And I won't tell you exactly where Beyonce
same in the top five. So you've nailed You've nailed
the top two.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Okay, okay, what order would you.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Put that in?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I would put Taylor first and then Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Every normal human in the whole world would Billboard did not.
I saw that that. I thought, Yeah, Taylor is easy.
Taylor's easily number one. Yes, and Beyonce is easily number two,
easily like Rick. But Taylor's selling football stadiums. I mean,
if you just look at all the data, it's easily
Taylor Swift. But again, if you put Taylor at two,
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it creates all the headlines and all the stories, and
right you get all the seeing people like us talking
about it. So they have Beyonce at one Taylor at two.
I think any normal rational person would have flipped them around.
Even if you're a massive Beyonce fan, I still think
you go, let's be honest, Taylor is one. Taylor is
the most famous person maybe in our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Oh, I completely agree, She's our Elvis.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm talking about more than just music though, Like Donald
Trump is probably there, but I think Taylor, there's probably
three or four people. You could have the debate. I
think Taylor's probably the most famous person of our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I always love to gauge it on, like do my
parents know Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
And it's tough because like Barack Obama would be on
the list now he's a president, but there's like I
don't think Joe Biden is one of the most famous
people of our lifetime. Oh, and just being a president
doesn't make you famous, like culturally, there has to be
something about you as well. Yeah, so their lists Beyonce one,
Taylor too, he gets tricky. There are a lot and
you don't have to get three. I just put people
on the list.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think we have to go us
in Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Right, justin Temple Lacks at fourteen. Now, I don't know
that I would have got to him so quick, but
two thousands, I guess was coming out of the boy
band era of the nineties early two thousands.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Okay, and bringing sexy back. He dominated, and then he
kind of just slowly kind of disappeared a little bit
while other people took the spotlight. But for a minute there,
justin Timberlake was the dude.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah for a minute, but a lot of that was
nineties into early two thousands. Okay, but he's at fourteen.
Go ahead, So.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I'm gonna go Brittany too. Britney spears. Since it's two thousands,
on it's six.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Now, Brittany would probably be the second most famous pop
star of our life, and Beyonce probably third famous. Beyonce
bigger than Brittany for sure in the past twenty years.
But Brittany's at six. Just any pop star you think
it makes the list? Rihanna at number three? Rihanna?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Wow, she got number three. Yeah, that's cool. Let's see.
Let's see. I'm gonna stick back to like the early
early years. So let me go Christina Aguile.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I'm gonna bet no chance. But she's I mean, she's
been quite irrelevant for a while. Let me look, she
did not make the list.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Okay, she get no list.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think part of Brittany's lasting is that she just
stayed famous.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, even in headlines you're just famous.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, you get two more strikes. Now, when I say
pop star, it can be anybody that got extremely popular.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Okay, not just musicians.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
No, no, that is a pop star. But I'm saying
if they were in the pop format. There's a lot
of genres in the pop format. Harry Styles, surely he's
on here. Let me look, he's got to be on there.
I don't think he's on here. Strike two pretty well, Mike,
would you? I don't know that I count one direction
(40:42):
in Harry Style. I think. I also think Eddie's a
little old for this list, But I wondered who he was.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I was going to get there. I was going to
get there too with some of the younger kids.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
No see if you even call them kids and they're
like thirty years old. So I can't give you one direction.
But one direction didn't make the list.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Quick, okay. Ariana Grande, for sure, she.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Made it at nine. So far you've gotten three, four, five,
you've getten six out of twenty five.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Olivia Rodrigo probably a.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Little too young. If I if I'm getting oh my gosh, yeah,
I'm gonna.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Go too young.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
I try to go too cool.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Rina Carpenter this upcoming artist you don't know of yet
called x X one. Uh no, no, is that three strikes?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
That's three?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, that's three. Hey, Abby, put Abby's headphones on. It'd
be interesting to do this. That's what Abby can do.
What hey, hey, we're recording this segment here with Eddie.
And have you seen the list of Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars?
Speaker 6 (41:35):
No? I haven't.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Okay, they're twenty five. It's Billboard's greatest pop Stars since
the year two thousand. Oh dang, Eddie, before he got
three strikes? He got six, right, not very many, so
greatest pop. So all I'm gonna say is Billboard put
the list out of greatest pop stars of the twenty
first century, so of two thousand on.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Oh my gosh, it's it's a.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Lot, but it should be. Also, it's pretty wide net
to be pretty easy. Top twenty five. How many can
you name before you get three strikes?
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Go ahead, let's see Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Okay, Beyonce is boom? Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Taylor Swift too good, that's two, justin Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Three, that's my order. Olivia Rodrigo too young? Yeah, really well,
only because she hasn't been around long enough that's true. Yeah,
so you've got three and you get one strike.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
This is hard Bruno Mars.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Correct number two?
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Good?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Number twenty is Bruno Mars really? Okay, it's four.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Gosh, I was gonna say, Michael Jackson, that's a little
too early.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Right, I'm not answering your question for you to guess it.
So if you say it, that's gonna be an X
or not an X. But since the year two thousand.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
No, no, not him two thousand. Yeah, Michael Jackson, No, no.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
No, no, I'm over here.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
You're gonna you're gonna lose daddy.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Okay, see one more striking a pop artist. This shouldn't
be that hard. No, and you're Britney Spears.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Correct, stand by, I know Britney's on here. She's as six, one, two, three,
You need one more just to win. Christina Aguilar, No,
that Eddie said that too, No, because she really didn't
do much in the two thousands, like she had her
hits in the nineties, a little bit in the early
two thousands.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
And take it back, take it back, bones. I'm not
too old for this list.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Okay, Okay, you're too old.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
Ivy suck.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
When I read these you guys are gonna be like duh.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
I thought, well she was guessing. I thought Usher is usher.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
On there hush ushers eleven. Yeah, so you have Katy
Perry of course yeah, dang ed Sheeran, Yes, where it
hurts someone like you. Eddie is like the biggest streamer
in the world. Is this person? And you would have
never guessed him. He's always top three sometimes some.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Years biggest streamer.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, he's his song stream more than anybody else's and
sometimes some years he's number one, some years he's top three.
But you would never guess this person. And I think
it's an age thing.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Let's see who is it. I'm asking if you, oh,
I have no club biggest streamer.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
If I say biggest streamer, but I bet you don't
know a single one of their songs.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Oh really, you.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Would know who they are because they've been in pop
culture news. They've even dated somebody very famous, and you
might know their song, but you might know a song
or two. I don't know. Eddie doesn't. There's no chance
I don't know a song.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I can't I don't know a song.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Is it Machine Gun Kelly?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
It is not Mi do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Do you have the list or you just know I
have the list? And so listen to this artist.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Okay, you listen to this artist.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Post alone, Bad Bunny, Oh Bad, Buddy one, Direction twenty two,
twenty one, law Wayne twenty, Bruno Mars nineteen, BTS, Oh
God to go K Pop on that one. Think about
those guys edy you wouldn't another one though, that is
usually up in that string. And he may be the
(45:02):
most streamed artist of all time, but I think one
of his songs is the most stream song is the Weekend.
Oh yeah, yeah, I think about super Bowl players too, right.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Yeah, yeah, we just saw him too at iHeart.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
He was good, we did. I don't think. I don't
think I saw.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
He was on this platform almost like he was the
king of all of these people. And it must have
been like, I don't know, seventy people like just all
in robes under him.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Small kingdom.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, I mean, this is kingdom of seventy. It was weird,
but he did the whole show from the very very top.
Never moved.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
That happened at iHeart.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Yeah, it was the last It was like the closer.
So you must have left early.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Oh, I never say for the closer, I'm tired, it's
the last, especially if it's a Friday show. I'm dead tired. Yeah, Shakira,
jay Z, Miley Cyrus, Dang Miley, Oh my gosh, Justin Timberlake,
Nicki Minaj, Yeah, she was big, eminem I sure, Adele.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
Okay, I did bad.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I we both did. It's all good.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Yeah, how did we do so bad?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Those are really obvious, actually, Ariana Grande. Justin Bieber Bieber,
which the big controversy. The story that came out was
Hailey Bieber was mad because they put Justin Bieber at eight,
and I think I would have put Justin Bieber above eight.
I think when you read the list back, I tell
you where I put him with Kanye's at seven, Brittany's
at six, guy guys at five, Drakes at four. You
(46:23):
guys didn't hit Drake at all.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
He did in.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
The Rihanna at three, Taylor Swift at two, Beyonce at one.
I think I would have put Bieber at three or
four when it comes to just overall pop.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Stars, and Beyonce did make one on this list.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Beyonce was one, yeah, which I think everybody except the
person who made the list thought it should have been
Taylor Swift. Yeah, so, but I think Bieber the the Rihanna,
Drake three and four those could be flipped around, but
I think Bieber could also jump both of them.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
I would move Drake. I'd put Bieber in Drake.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Spot you put Bieber behind Rihanna. No, no, because it
was it was Taylor, No, Rihanna then Drake.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
I mean it was Beyonce, Taylor, Rihanna, Drake. Yeah, so
I would go beyond Beyonce in this list or whatever, Taylor.
I would swip them, swap them, Taylor, Beyonce, Rihanna, then Bieber, Bieber, Drake.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I think I would go Taylor, Beyonce, Bieber, Drake. Yeah,
Justin Bieber has also been so famous, right, He's had songs,
but he's also been so not. The Realne is not obviously,
and she's had a beauty line. And you're arguing about
the most famous, most successful people ever. But I'm talking
(47:38):
about like Bieber has been a pop culture staple, like new.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Staple topic conversation.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yes, I mean I've turned your mic out there screaming
in the background, which he just can't walk down the
hall and not yell, oh my God, to turn your
micro first.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
We had a c problem. Now we have lunchbox.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I just like walking down. Yeah, Hayley Bieber, she says
Billboard is a joke for putting Justin at number eight
on their list of greatest pop Stars of the twenty
first century.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
No, Haley, Billboard's a joke for putting Beyonce over Taylor Swift.
That's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well, when the article with Bieber came out, and Hailey Bieber,
they haven't announced two and one yet because they announced
them slowly, like this week they do four to three.
We just waited for the whole list to be out,
got it? But yeah, there you go. I didn't I
wonder if well, no, if I like quiz my wife,
I bet she would get.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
Like twelve Oh yeah, she would dominate this.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
She's also twelve years younger.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
But the fact that you got Abby in here made
me feel a lot better about myself.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Why Abby starts to get nervous. It wasn't even like
she's not even playing a game, really, and she starts
to get nervous and any the village people. Singer denies
that YMCA is a gay anthem I saw this, I
always thought it was a gay song and I loved it.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
And another thing he said that surprised me. He said
that they weren't all gay. I thought that all the
village people, that's they were gay. And he said, I'm
not gay, and my co writers were gay, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, I thought they were all gay too, which is
why I thought that it was a gay anthem, which
I never even it wasn't like every time I played
I was like, oh, here's my favorite gay anthem. Right,
I didn't even think about it being that. I just
thought the village people are gay and this is like
a song they play at like gay bars. And then
sports picked it up. Sure, didn't really no, didn't really care. Yeah,
(49:22):
and I definitely thought, yes, yes, Like every time you
listen to it, you're like, god, song, so good, and I
don't think, Wow, this is a gay anthem.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
No, I don't think it either.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
But I did think it was a gay anthem mish
type song.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
And then you watch like them perform it, and you
got the cop without the shirt and this, you know,
like all that you're just like, oh, okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Maybe that was like seventy you know, but I was
surprised by that me too, from consequence, which is that
the story we took us from. As for the idea
that YMCA somehow a gay anthem, Willis said, that is
a false assumption based on the fact that my writing
partner was gay and some not all, the village people
were gay. That the first Village People album was totally
(50:00):
about gay life. So I could see where if people
had like a universal feeling the whole album was, that
that song would be and if they thought the whole
band was and the album was.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like if a band comes out
and their first album is all Christian, you assume they're
a Christian band.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Or or all the other music. Yeah, if they have
like eight songs, if they're all Christians and most songs
on the album are Christian music and there's two that
are like secular, assume there are also Christians on great right, Yeah,
I know. I was surprised by this story.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
The assumption is also based on the fact that the
YMCA was apparently being used as some sort of gay hangout,
and since one of the writers was gay and some
of the village people are gay, the song must be
a message to gay people. And it also says young
man and never young woman. Correct, but also that doesn't
sound as good.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
And Mike did think it said.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yo man, yo mann. You did think it was young man?
Was yo man?
Speaker 4 (50:54):
Just learns of them.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
As I stated on numerous occasions, I knew nothing about
the y being hangout for gay's and I wrote the
lyrics to ym and Jacques Moraley, who was gay, never
once dated such to me. What if Jacques really knew
and he just got the other guy to write it.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Well, I'll be honest, Like I grew up in South Texas,
we didn't have YMCA, so the first time I saw YMCA,
I automatically assumed this was.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
The place where the gay people were gay hang out
because of the song. Well, we had YMCA's in Arkansas
and my aunt was a member because it was a
members membership fe we couldnt afford it, but I was
thought it was so cool because that swimming pool and
I remember going and going this is nothing like the song.
I remember. It was like young male Christian young men.
(51:36):
I remember what, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Association, Yeah something like that.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah yeah, So and.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
It's just people work out and swim there. Literally, that's
what they do.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
I therefore wrote YMCA about the things I knew about
the y and urban areas San Francisco, a swimming baseball track,
and cheap food and cheap rooms. And when I say
hang out with all the boys, which it does say
in the song, because hang out with all the boys, right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's the all I'm thinking about. It's simply nineteen seventies
black slang for black guys hanging out together, sports, gambling
or whatever. There's nothing gay about that. Yeah, my mom
(52:10):
is blown me too. I don't like the song any
better or any worse because it was a gay anthem
and it's still a jam. Yeah, and anywhere wedding sports
is it? Is it on the movie Sing?
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Do you remember that? Because Mike, I always think that
if my kids are walking around the house singing classic songs,
they got it from a cartoon. Now.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
I've only seen sing once, Okay, so maybe they do
it in two. I don't know, and I've watched I
don't know. I don't know. I've only seen it once,
but I do know the songs from Singing that I
do know are and it is gotful stuff, Johnny. Yeah,
and then still standing that one, and then in Sing two,
when Bono comes out as the big Lion, they do uh,
(52:53):
they do it. They do a youtwo song. I still
haven't found what I like.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
That part's so cool.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
I do remember it being indespicable of me too, where
the minions did it? Okay, maybe that's it because I
don't remember it from that, but i'd never seen sing
and my nephews like two and A Thanksgiving. They don't
give him a lot of screen time, but when they do,
he's like, oh my god, I get to watch the show.
He's like, and he sits down and focuses on the
TV like he can be run around screaming. And they're like,
(53:21):
you want to watch Sing And it's like, what's.
Speaker 4 (53:23):
Going to be crazy and you're going to see this
at some point with him? Is that you give him
a phone. He'll know how to navigate through the phone.
At two years old. He'll know swipe left, click that,
get that out of here, like all of those conveniands.
It's so easy that, like, really a two year old
can do it.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
What I thought was fun about Singing though, is I
knew the songs right, but I wasn't trying to find
out who was the voice so I would try to
identify them when they would start to sing songs. Because how'
about to know Tory Kelly's voice when she's doing the pic? Sure,
because she was a pig, right, she was the pig.
She was something. Yeah, probably the pig. I've only seen
him once. There was a pig, right, Yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
A pig, the pig. No, she's not a moment like
a bunch of piggies.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Because the pig would like go and sneak off and
like sing by herself because she was shy, and the
pig ended up like having a crush on another pig.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
Tory Kelly was the elephant.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
That's what I mean, the elephant.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Elephant's pink though, No, so who's Jennifer Hudson?
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Hold on, I need to get my fact straight here,
because she would put the Tory Kelly would, I think,
put the headphones on and go on top of the
hill and sing by herselfers, Yeah, that was it, right,
I remember that part. Okay, maybe my color is just
not right.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
And I think she's a mom because isn't that part
of her problem that she like has all these kids.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Now I'm not going to know the answer. Again, I've
seen it once and I really wasn't dialed in at
first until the song started playing because I was like, well,
I don't want to watch that. I actually I was
a little bitter. I had to sit through a Thanksgiving
when there's football on because I'm watching it on my phone.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Now, okay, let's see you got Johnny.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Is Johnny is that? I didn't. I don't know him
as an actor, but it's like Trevin mcclach was, Yeah,
whoever that is? I don't know who that is?
Speaker 4 (55:02):
And then Mina who's the elephant? Is Tory Kelly with
the headphones?
Speaker 2 (55:06):
What color is she? Pink?
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah? Kind of just pinkish gray.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
Scarlett Johansson is the part.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
That's the one that I could not get because she's
an old rocker. She plays a guitar. She wants to
be a rocker.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
And the pig is Rosita and she is Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
I don't remember the pig. I was thinking of the elephant.
I remember the pig, but I remember rees Worth of spoke.
It's sang really good.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Jennifer Hudson is what is that a yak? Yeah? I
think she's a yak.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah. Well, anyway, as you can tell, it's a great movie.
Speaker 5 (55:40):
Though.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Man, I had a good time watching it. When I
looked up when the music was on, I'm so glad
you watched I'm Big Johnny guy though.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
Cool and that was in jail.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
He was like, and then he rips out of jail
so easily. He just rips the wall off and like
jumps off the buses and stuff.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, dude. It's so cool to
like have the kids learn new music through these movies
because you know there's people like us making these movies.
Or old music, that's what I mean, like old classic
songs because like my kids walk around the house singing
and classic songs like how do you know that song?
Like Death Leppard? Oh it's on the Avatar movie. Oh
love it.
Speaker 8 (56:12):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
A similar and not really kids, but like there'll be
music from when we were young, like to not like
nineties rock stuff like the Strokes, yes, some Foo Fighters,
some stuff like that, and it'll come on or even
like MGMT Feel Dun and my wife will know it,
(56:48):
know every word to it, and she'll I'm like, how
do you know that? She's like guitar hero right, rock band,
And I was like, she goes, I wouldn't know those songs,
but like her families to gather around and play the
play rock band. Yea, the drums, Ione have the things?
Is Amy here? Can you come in? I want to
quizer on this list. If she hasn't seen it, nomn
(57:09):
got your need? Did you see the video of them
from MGMT from when they were like in college, Mike,
you've seen it recently? It's going viral again. Oh yeah.
They look like Eddie and I being raging idiots playing
from a little keyboard and they're just jump around on extend
with twelve people watching, and they're playing that song that
it's not you know.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
It's it's massive.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah, oh kids, the same album, but not the same.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
It's a great album.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
They were called The Management at the time. They were
called the Management, yes, not MGMT. I think later it
turned to the MGMT, right, Mike, Yeah, because there was
already a band called The Management. Yeah, Amy, quick quest
for you Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars of the twenty first century,
which is the year two thousand and nine, and Eddie
went first and he only got six Abby then went
(57:55):
and he got very nervous for no reason because there's
nothing on the line, So and only got six. I'll
give I'll give you other rules. So what it's going
to be is from the year two thousand on. You
only get three strikes the year two thousand on the
Biggest pop Stars period So you're looking for well, I
(58:15):
don't want to give you too much, but that's all
I told them as well.
Speaker 3 (58:17):
Okay, let me ask if they if they broke through
in the nineties, they do not count.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
No, I didn't say that. I can't answer that question.
So it's just from the year two thousand on the
biggest pop Stars of period one through twenty five? How
many can you get?
Speaker 3 (58:31):
And you're on Taylor Swift correct, Rihanna correct, Beyonce correct,
Justin Bieber correct, it's four.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Brittany Spencer, you mean Britney spears.
Speaker 4 (58:42):
No, she said, Spencer, I have Britney.
Speaker 6 (58:48):
I love Ridey Spencer. I have spears written on my
paper right here.
Speaker 4 (58:52):
I can't give that to her.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
B spears written down to me. I have down.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
Don't give it to Abby, she said.
Speaker 6 (59:03):
It was confidence fair enough.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
We know what you meant. We would have to give
you a strike your o, you get one strike, but
you get the Briddy spears. Go ahead, Katy Perry boom
got so far you have six? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (59:15):
Dozen?
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Timber Lake seven?
Speaker 6 (59:17):
Uh, jay Z.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
Eight, she's good. Drake nine, you're not You're not timed,
you're good?
Speaker 6 (59:26):
Oh we're not well. No, No, I wouldn't have said Spencer.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
I never said your time, though.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
I guess I just you know, feel the pressure of
being timed.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Go ahead. So it's pop Pop Pop Billboard's Greatest Pop
Stars of the twenty first century. So two thousand and one,
and you have one too.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Oh, Ariana ten?
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Go ahead? Uh? Selena Gomes, Oh that's a good guess
as No, she didn't make it as a pop star, okay,
Sabrina Carpenter, No, too young, too new? Sorry, what is
the decades? Two thousands? But spinder Cart has been famous
for two years?
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Right, still two thousand, it's still two thousand.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, but you're talking about the most famous from the
last twenty years. So anyway, you killed them, are you done?
Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
I could have kept going cool.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Let's say you let's say you didn't miss Britney Spencer,
so you would have had one more strike.
Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Christine Aguilera.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
No, she'd make it. They both guessed her too. Now
she'd lost fame in like our songs like two thousand,
we all guess her three or four or something. Uh yeah,
I read this list to them. But ed Sheeran, Yeah,
Bad Bunny, Lol, Wayne Bts the Weekend Miley cyrus NICKI
minaj Adele Adele would have been a big one.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Bad Bunny's tough because I mean he is massive all
over the world.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Also dated Kardashian, but I still won.
Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Oh yeah, they saw you dominated how mad she get?
Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
Like I was.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
You know what I was doing. I was trying to
think that more. I was just thinking, that's almost one hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
It was doubled.
Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
You about what I was thinking back to, like twenty
ten when I used to do two hour show after
the Bobby Bone Show, and I was thinking of every
artist we played.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Eddie guests like Lionel Ritchie.
Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
No, I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Nellie Vanilli. You were like, dude, you need.
Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
To get when we were pop because we were pop.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
They guess Olivia Rodrigo, but again too not enough of
a sample size, like three years.
Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I get it now, I guess Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
She did get Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Okay, and that would be the biggest of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Addie Abby also had a freak out too that she
thought she if she lost, she was going to get like.
Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
I feel the pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
There was no pressure. It was literally, Hey, we'd be curious.
We'd be curious to know what you think, not tell
us what you think or die.
Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
I wanted to be Eddie to be.
Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Or be first.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
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Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
By everybody, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production
I feel like that just part of me, especially right now,
and that's what my Paul would call me. And so
whenever I come up on stage and have the name
that a lot of people called me when I was
growing up, it kind of always just reminds me of home.
That's how I feel when I think of it.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode four eighty six, We will walk through the Well.
Billboard has listed as the greatest pop stars of the
twenty first century. So they did the year two thousand
and on, and we were recording this in the studio
and people kept walking in out of the room, so
like Eddie tried, Abby tried, Amy ends up coming in
and trying, like how many could they get off the list?
We debated it ourselves. That's coming up, and also the
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song Ymca and the village people and how there's been
a misunderstanding about them. That's coming up in a little
bit as well. I do want to start though with
Hunter Girl, who I got to know doing the Grand
Ole Opry. Did some stuff with her. It was I
think military appreciation night I was hosting the Opry. She
was Perferre. She does a lot of riding with veterans
(01:03):
and so that's why she was there, but that's how
we got to know each other. And she was on
Idol the year after I left, so I did not
know her from American Idol. But she's awesome. She played
our saintued radio time. She made her Grand ol Opry
debut this year. She toured Luke Bryan this summer. She
has her EP Tennessee Girl that is available now, and
she has like Christmas songs and like Hallmark movies. Right, yeah,
(01:24):
that's pretty cool. Uh so, uh Hunter Girl, you're gonna
hear about her big fan. We'll go here first and
then we'll do that list of the biggest pop stars
right after that. Right, we're here with Hunter Girl. I
guess we me Mike, So we had these smellings. You
just saw me freak out.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh my gosh. I was like, are you done? And
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I did not, So we have We were doing a
bit on the show with smelling salts and smelling salts
it's kind of an ammonia thing. I see trainers use
them on athletes when they get like their bell wrong
playing football. Yeah, and so I bought some off Amazon
and they're not bad for you. But we had never
used them, and I thought that I guess all the
smell is gone. So the smell ever leave, I don't know,
(02:06):
And that's what I thought, So I thought it had weakened.
So I took a big smell, and it's tough. You
want to smell, you know, don't smell hard.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I'm kind of I'm kind of intrigued. You're kind of terrified.
Start of a horror movie.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I the thing about you and what I know about you,
is like you'll go like you do you have no
I shouldn't say no fear because we don't have fears,
but like you just tend to go for it. So
I I would recommend, if you could, you just watch
us do it. Not to smell it hard, just just
slightly smell it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm not give it like a little like a little
whiff like a Yankee candle.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Kind of don't do that. Don't go Yankee candy. I
didn't want to give it. I don't want to you're
if you're.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
A Yankee dun dump you mean it's like a doll up.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Just you don't take it out, just just barely smell it. Yeah, yeah,
but like terrified.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's even in like in a little black there's a
devil ont devil demon, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I'm telling you, don't go hard hun her. O, god,
it feels like that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, it feels like I put like red hot chili
flakes in my nose and just swirled it around.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But saw the only reason I even bring it up
to her she saw me do it and freak out
and I needed to explain what was happening.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And you were so close to it. How are you?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Uh, I'm good, Like I'm backing Mountain Pine dude. Oh
my god, I'm seventeen years old. Okay, Hunter, let's do
the basics. Okay, that I know, But I feel like
having you here and being able to like talk with
you in this setting because you have interviewed me before, Yes,
and I really enjoyed. I thought you were really great
at that job. I think I think I told you that.
I think I was. I was like, hey, you're actually
(03:35):
really good at this. You're better than this than somebody
they just stick up there.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh my gosh. I was scared to dad, So thank
you for my first time interviewing people.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And I was like, oh my god, acm red carpet. Yes, Dallas,
how'd you get that job.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
With Country now yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, that's ripe. Yeah, so what'd you think about it?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It was so cool. And also just have so much
respect for you and everybody that's like interviewing people, because
it's like it's nerve wracking just to like keep conversations
going sometimes and be like hey and know whatever he's doing.
And so I'm like have like my research I've done prior,
and I'm like, I'm like studying it, like I have
like teacap coming up.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Or what's tea caps that Tennessee one.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's like whenever you would test in schools.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So we're from marketsall. We had a different version, but
I figured the tea was different. Yeah, so yeah, that
was fun. What the hardest part about doing any red
carpet interviews is sometimes people come up you have no
idea who they are, and they're just like, okay, here's
the here's Trent Fruh and he's and you're like, oh
my god. So you go like so why are you here?
You have to find a way to like be like
(04:33):
warm and inviting, but you have no idea who they are.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That was yeah, that was kind of scary. Sometimes I
was like, oh, I was like, so what do you
think of the not you know, and.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's like that's perfect, That's exactly That's what I do
sometimes here I'm like, so hunter girl, how about that
guitar string?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
How about the Yankees?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, from the start you but you grew up in Tennessee. Yes, yeah,
how far from Nashville?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I guess a couple hours.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Did you Did you come to Nashville for anything? Or
would you go to Atlanta? Or where was the city? Chattanooga?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So we'd go to Chattanooga a lot. Like we came
up to Nashville from time to time because I have
family up here, so for holidays we'd come up here sometimes.
But I just always wanted to be here.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
If there was a concert, though, would it be in Chattanooga?
If you were going to go to a shore, where
would a concert be?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I would say, we'd come to Nashville for a concert,
and then like shopping and stuff, we'd go Chattanooga.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, was Chattanooga. I'm from a small town, so we
had going to town?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Did you have going to town?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I did have going to town.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Where was town?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It was like Tellahoma area, And so it's like, oh,
we got to go to the grocery store, cause we.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Are Walmart was ours Walmart town started.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Walmart was like a whole trip. It was like it
was like an hour and a half endeavor. We'd go
through every all and Mom would perus and what was
your hometown?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
How many people? What's there?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's right now, it's near tams Ford Lake. And so
we had like a Walmart, we had like three Mexican
restaurants and a Sonic.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You had three Mexican restaurants. Yeah, there was Yeah, what
a battle that is?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I know. I was like, how like how many people
can we get in the and all the Mexican restaurants.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Not a single Chinese restaurant, but restaurant.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, we did recently get a Chinese restaurant and a
dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
How big is the town population wise? Idea?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I would say, I have no idea. Yeah, I know
that I was like related to everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But that's just from the South more so than it is. Yeah,
like ken, Yeah that's what I say to my show.
I'm like, yeah, we uh can't And they're like, what
does ken mean? I'm sorry, we're related. That's a term, Yeah,
it really is, which means ken. It's like ken Folk,
I'm trying to root that. So ken Folk though, what
would ken be rooted? Why would why would we say?
(06:36):
Because all this is so natural, I've never thought about
why it exists. What would ken be if it's I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Guess like ken folk and that they wanted to make
it shorter but.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
For Yeah, but I wonder where ken Folk even came from.
I'm gonna look that I don't know. Uh, so you
moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
When twenty sixteen is when I graduated high school?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So moved right here?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, right after I graduated. I was like, see y'all,
love y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Were you a high school music head?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
They didn't really have a lot of music at my
high school, Like I played in just like the bars
and coffee shops and restaurants, and so whenever I was
like fifteen, I started looking at places around and started
calling or walking in my mom and dad would drive me.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And so you did play places though, Yeah, why did
you get your first guitar? How old were you and
why did you want one?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I was? I guess fourteen is when I started playing.
I'd have the guitar for a while, and I just
wanted to be able to like put the songs that
I heard in my head onto an instrument, Like I
played bass first, And.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Did you have a brother or sister that played the
real guitar and that's why you played the bass.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
No, there was like a band that needed a bass player.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I was always in need yeah, need, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And I was like okay. I was like, I'm gonna
learn how to play bass so I can like get
a gig. And then after a while I was like,
I'm writing a lot of songs but don't really know
how to get them out, and so I started playing guitar.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Anybody musical in your family, No.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Not at all, which is the wild part, just because
mom and dad were like, oh my gosh, what do
we do with her?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
What did they do with you? It sounds like they
supported you.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
They did. Yeah. They would just take me around like
we don't really know what we're doing, but we support you,
and take me to shows. And I would find like
little venues on Facebook and I was back, I guess
about a few months ago, and I found like a
stack of paper I had when I was fifteen in
my handwriting. It was like call Amy back and call
Maggie over at this bar or coffee shop, and so
(08:23):
I would just kind of grinding.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So you're hustling gigs at fifteen and sixteen years old, yes,
And what's interesting about your parents not being musical is
it wasn't like they could give you advice on how
to get gigs. Not that they were anti, but they
did not live in that world. Yeah, and neither did you.
But you just started calling, going can I come play?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
M hm?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You remember the first show gig you ever got paid
for anything at all?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yes. There was a marina back home and it was
like where like all the boats would come on Friday
nights and I didn't know if they had music or not,
but I just walked down was like, hey, like, can
I just play guitar here? Is that cool? And they're
like yeah, And so I was like and if you
like it, like you know, like let me like y'all
come back, and they did and they were like okay cool,
and people stayed and they're like, okay, we'll pay you
(09:04):
one hundred bucks and I was like okay. I was like,
I was like, oh my god, I'm freaking rich. I
like walked in front of mom and dad. I was like,
oh sorry, And and so then from there, I just
started trying to book gigs in town and be like, hey,
if you like it, just let me know. And so
I was getting paid like, you know, fifty bucks, one
hundred bucks. And then mom and dad were like, we
don't know what to do next, Like why don't we
make you a T shirt and see how that goes?
(09:26):
And so I was selling T shirts and stuff at
the gigs back home.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Sounds like your parents loved you. They did, they do.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And I think it was hard on them not knowing,
you know, what the path was. And I was like,
it's just I don't think really anybody does. And it
just kind of working hard and trying to get lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Look at you just going I'll play for free and
if you like it, then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, it's like okay, here like try it out, try
this drug. Oh my gosh, here's my jacket.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So at what point did you think, because again, you
knew when you graduated high school you're moving here, and
you did, But when did that start to be a
reality that it even cut because they come from a
sometime nobody did anything like that Nashville. It was kind
of close. Yeah, but it's still You're from a small
town that still could feel like ten million miles away
from like country music and where it's all made. When
did you decide that was a reality.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think that, like I always knew the goal was Nashville,
just because I was like, Okay, everybody that plays music
is there, and I want to be surrounded by that.
And I actually went to a writer's round at the
Third and Lensley whenever I was sixteen, and I got
to see Luke Laird play and Barry Dean and I
was like, oh my gosh, songwriting. I was like, these
are the songwriters. And I was like, I was like,
(10:39):
I think I really want to write songs with other
people because I was just written by myself at the house.
And so whenever I moved to Nashville, that was one
of my goals. I was like, I want to figure
out like what a co ride is and getting into town.
And then I started playing on Broadway right when I
got here for I guess like two and a half years,
and it was like seven days a week and eight
eight hours a day while going to school.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
How did you while going to school? Oh, I'm gonna
get back to that too. Yeah, how did you get
your first Broadway gig? Who did you call everyone? And
finally someone said, come audition.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What happened, Well, it kind of happened out of the blue.
My grandfather was in the VA hospital in Murphy's Burrow
and I was over there and I would come sing
to like the people over there, and one of the
guys he was a retired veteran, and he was like, hey, like,
I have a bar and would you want to come sing?
And he's like, I'll let you like audition to play
and I was like, okay, sounds good. And he's like,
let's be there tomorrow. And then he was like, do
(11:30):
you just want to stay and play the play the gig?
And I was like yeah, And that's how I got
my job.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And does that job? In having a job, did it
make it easier to get other jobs because you could
then go, I've I have a work history.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I because I started out just playing the shows
and then I moved into like, you know, making all
the flyers and doing all the merch and then I
was just like learning things on the fly. I was
eighteen and like, and then I started booking some of
the stages. By the time I was like nineteen or twenty.
And so I learned like every kind of peace of
just how to like run a venue and like play shows.
(12:05):
And I really didn't know what I was doing half
the time, but I told everybody I did it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I was like, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I can do that job.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's that's a creative life in general. Fake it, fake it,
And while you're faking it, your learning as you go,
and then eventually you figured it out, only to realize
you never actually figured it out, because it's all changed
while you were learning it exactly. So you're playing these
stages on Broadway, but were you old enough to even
get into the bar? No?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And so they were like you can't, like no alcohol
around at all you And I'm like, do not worry,
Like I just want to I just want to pay
rent and I just want to learn how to play shows.
And I really learned a lot down there, just like
how to run the lots or like if something wasn't working,
and got used to just being around people and talking
to people and learn how to harmonize. And because you're
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on stage with two other people, like at least I was,
and I never knew who was going to be there,
that day I kind of found out who I was
playing with, Mourning of.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You were in school at the same time. Yeah, were
you in school?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I went to MTSU.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay, and I knew you were going to say that
that's not close. No, it's forty five minutes right, yeah,
or more. I mean every time I've driven out there,
the roads aren't They're not Interstates, no, and.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Old Fort park ways wild. But yeah. So I would
set my schedule. So I started like classes around like
seven or eight, and then I get done at around
like one, and then I would go drive to play
and do two o'clock till usually about ten or sometimes
I would like pick up other people's shifts, and so
I was doing like doubles those days.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Were you making tips? Like mostly it was tips? All tips?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, pretty much. I was getting paid like forty bucks
to play, and then it was like you still had
to pay for parking, which is like fifteen twenty bucks,
and so everything I was making was off of tips.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
At what point, because you said you played a couple
of years on Broadway, at what point do you start
to I don't want to say question yourself, but question
the situation. Yeah, and go man, spent a couple of years.
I'm still here. When does that start to seep in?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think it started sweeping in. I would say by
year like probably probably year two. I think just because
in the beginning, I'm just like, Okay, I need to
learn how to entertain and I just kept learning things
along the way, and I was like, I think I
want to, like really dive back into songwriting a little
more because I didn't have a lot of time with
between working in school, and so then I started writing
(14:26):
with people again and kind of using that part of
my brain less than the like just entertaining people part.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
How far did you get in school?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I graduated twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's crazy. It's awesome that you graduated. And I don't
think college for everybody. Yeah, but the fact that you
did both and still graduated. Was that a priority of
your parents?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It was like, yeah, it mattered a lot to my parents,
but I think for me too, just because I was like,
I just want to I just want to graduate. And
I learned a lot being at MTSU, and just my
professors have been in like the music industry and gave
really good advice. I still talk to them now, and
so I was whenever I graduated, I was like, oh,
I was like, should I go to school? Should I not?
(15:05):
And obviously Mom and Dad were kind of pushing me in.
I'm so glad that I did, though.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, that's that's awesome. I mean I went to school
the full time every time I worked for and it
was really hard because I lived an hour away from school.
Oh that's the same thing, it's all yeah, And so
it was, you know, seven am. They would say, don't
take eight am classes, but there were certain seven am
classes I had to take, and then I would work
till eleven or noon or at school and then drive
an hour be at station till eleven or midnight and
(15:31):
just grind it out.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's so it's so hard and you're just like what
kind of coffee was I drinking or like what was
going on at that time? And it was just like
you just figured it out.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah. And it was also like I think to me too,
I would get so tired. I think it killed my
creativity a lot of times. Yeah, but I felt like
it was a necessity that if I could just get
through it, I would be so much happier because I
had a comp no one in my family'd never been
graduated high school, much less college, so it was so
importan had to me to finish college. And there will
be times that I would be exhausted, much like what
(16:02):
you're talking about. You'll be exhausted, but I would just
have to get myself through going. When it's over, I
am going to be so happy that I did all
of this. And it sounds like you are you sounds
like you're proud of yourself for it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, it was. It was so hard, you know, trying
to you know, have the career in Nashville or just
like build something that I was proud of, and then
also trying to do school at the same time and
feel like you're kind of split apart in two ways.
It's like I'm going to school, you know for the
things that I'm trying to do now and write songs
and all that, and so yeah, just one of those
things where you just have to push yourself through it. Like, hey,
(16:36):
one day, like you're going to be on.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
The other side of the future.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I look at the future a lot and be like,
one day you'll be happy about this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I'm curious as to how you try to kind of
expand in Nashville because you're playing shows and you're going
to school, but there are a lot of people that
you need to meet and things you need to have
happened in the Daytimeah, like, how did you manage to
do that while you were doing both?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So I would go out to like writers' rounds and
stuff like after shifts, and if I got done it
at six, I'd be like, Okay, then I can go
out and see the writers' rounds. And that's how I
met a lot of my friends, like.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
The executives that would like publishing deal stuff like that.
When you're pursuing one of those, Like how do you
meet those people? Same?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Uh, well, kind of harder. It's like whenever I was out,
you know, i'd meet somebody that knew somebody else and like, hey,
write with me, and then somebody would have a publishing deal,
and so I start writing with publish writers. And but
I started writing with like a meeting with publishers. I
guess around I was around my senior year of college,
and I was so excited. I was like, oh my gosh,
(17:34):
like I'm gonna get a publishing deal, and you know,
the kind of the world shut down.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But oh, that's when COVID.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's when COVID hit and one of my friends from
college had set me in to a program that ASCAP
had and he had submitted my songs because he had
had them, and so they picked like eight writers that
year and they will get the meetings with publishing companies,
and so one of my friends did that for me
and uh, and so that's how I started having public meetings.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Did you land a publishing deal?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
No, I didn't because twenty twenty it was a few
months later and I was having all these meetings and
then we had to all go back home.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I guess you're right, like, no one is going to
start anything new or spend any new money.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Once COVID happened, it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Was like the Yeah, the whole world shut down. And
I just was like, I'm trying to graduate college at
the same time and just trying to figure out what
to do.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So I think I missed you on Idol by one season. Oh, no,
I was there for four years. I think you were
on after I went to NBC. I think it was
the next year. Yeah, it was it years season five,
do you know on ABC because.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They called it like season twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, but for us, they made us call it season
five because it was ABC season or whatever it was. Yes,
I remember, I think you were the first season I
wasn't on, so I watched because I was really wanting
to show the bomb and because I was gone and
you're awesome, Oh thank you, and that experience like being
in it because I was every episode for four years,
like I was there working with every contestant and it
(18:59):
was really something at first that was very fulfilling to me.
And then it just became a TV show. Yeah, but
it's way different than it used to be, meaning like
you're not bound anything. I don't know if you are,
but they almost can't convince people to come on the
show if they're like we own you after Like who
would go on anything at that point?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Why idol? Like what happened? Was that process?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So kind of what was happening during that time? It
was I guess twenty we're stud we're doing Like the
zoom Zoom was still like really prevalent, but I had
had this show like ten minutes from my house and
I was just setting up my gear and it was
like right next to the bath of body works, Like
I was freaking crushing it. And this girl that I'd
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met at the gym about three days three days prior,
because I'd joined a gym for free and invited everybody
was like hey, let come over. I'm like right across
the road and they came in and I got an
email about IDOL I guess the previous day. It's like,
you should audition. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna
think about it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
How do they know you?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It was a lady named Leanne Falen had like said
that she was helping out, and she was like, hey,
you should do this, and I was like okay, and
I was like, let me think about it. And then
the girl that I met the gym, she'd move from
California like a week ago and she used to be
a producer on IDOL, and she was like, hey, you
should audition. And I was like okay, two times in
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two days, Like that's a sign. I'm going to go
for it. And I'd been praying for a sign for
the unrelated. They didn't know each other, they didn't know
each other at all, and I was like okay, God.
I was like like is this is this is the path?
Like I'm I'm all in and I'm just going to
see what happens. And I'd auditioned for all kinds of
talent shows like multiple times whenever I was younger, and
nothing ever worked, and so I was like, Okay, let's
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just give it a shot, and it completely want adied everything.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So did you audition on Zoom? Was it still Zoom auditioning?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We had to do a whole season on when COVID hit.
We had to do a whole season. It was awful.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's that's so hard.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Like I would be talking to on Zoom and then
they would have to like set up their own cameras,
like we they had to get them all their crap
and they had to set it up themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It was. It was yeah, really rotten, but you actually
opened they'd opened up and you got to go back.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
They did that. This season was the one where it
like we still had to be masked and everything. Uh,
but like whenever we were like filming, we could take
them off and stuff. We're still doing COVID tests.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Do you know you remember any of your producers? Like,
do you remember anybody that like ran you managed? You?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Annie was somebody I worked with a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
How'd you enjoy the experience.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Like it was just such like a learning experience being
on there and being out in California. I'd never been
out there, and just all the lots and the cameras,
and you know, it's kind of scary, uh at first
when you're just you're like, am I saying the right thing?
Like what what is this going to be like? And
I think nerve wracking, And it's kind of put you
in a situation where there's a melting pot of people
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with so many different kinds of voices, and so I
feel like you compare yourself to each other a lot
because it's a competition and you can get to your head.
But for the most part, like I had a really
good time getting to be out there and learn, and
obviously sometimes it was really really.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Hard and no sleep. It's a factory, it's a TV show. Yeah.
I would work an interview like we would do this,
let's just say you and I do it for two hours,
and they would use a thirteen second clip sometimes, yes,
and you never know what the narrative is that's being
built about or around you. Yeah, you know, because they
have full control over it. How did you feel like
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you represented on the show.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I feel like they got really close to who I
was as a person. And one of the main things
that was kind of in my story on the show is,
you know, working with veterans, and that's something I've done
for a lot of my life, and getting to have
them whenever I came to my hometowns is just because
I never got to meet some of these people because
I'd started this Zoom class in twenty twenty writing songs
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with vets, and this was my first time getting to
meet these people in person, and just getting to have
that experience and see those people and just being with
my hometown and those are things that I'll just never
forget because it's just everybody in the community came together
and had my back.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Did your Instagram follow and go way up?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Pretty cool?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Huh Oh, that was wild.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Like that's the real currency I've doing something like that now.
It's that it's building followers that will stay with you
after the show.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah. I think I had like maybe like three thousand
or two thousand followers before the show started, and then
it just like after the audition, after like mine went
out on TV. It was just it was wild seeing
that happen because you never know if people are gonna
like you or not and you still never know though, because.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
How far did you get runner up? You got runner up?
I got runner up. I didn't know you made it
to the very very very And did you think you
were gonna win?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I really I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know how
it was going to go.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I would just you stood there when you open when
Ryan opened the envelope. Yes, that is such a tense.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's such a chance moment, just because it's a silent
when you're looking around ex and.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I love Ryan, I know Ryan.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's like dot dot dot dot and I'm like, oh
my gosh, and like like I just didn't know how
it was going to go because I was so close
to everybody on the show and I was like, whatever happens,
like it's gonna be okay. I'm gonna go back to
Nashville and I'm gonna start writing songs and doing the
thing again. And I think the hardest part was just
the like the silence and the lots and just looking
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at my family. I think was hard just because they're crying,
like the whole finale, just like in general, just with
all the songs and.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, so and I would tell the artist contestants. Some
were kids somewhere, young adults. I would go My thing
to them was just last on the show as long
as you can, doesn't matter if you win. Yeah, Like,
you got out of it the same thing that who won.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Noah Thompson, you.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Got out of the same he got out of it.
It's just just screen time. Yeah, can you get on
screen as much as possible to see if people connect,
And it's hard. It's also hard for people to connect
when you're doing covers, right, But that's what that show
is because they want familiarity, because people are watching and
they want to see familiar songs. But I would tell them, like,
it's it's sure, it's about winning, but it's not because
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it's right now. Anytime you're on camera on screen, that's
like you being on a stage somewhere in the country,
but times ten thousand. Yeah, you're just winning people over eyeballs.
So the fact that you got to the very last performance,
that's the same thing as winning.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, Like I felt I felt like good about just
because I got I was really excited because they let
me play two originals while I was on there, and
they encouraged me to do one of them because I'd
sent it in the cover that week and then descend
in a song. I was like, hey, what do y'all
think of this? They're like, hey, do you want to
play it? And I was like yeah. So they let
me play a few originals while I was on the show,
which is really cool.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
What was your favorite cover to play?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh? I think girl Crush by a Little Big Town.
I'd stayed up all not like trying to get the
arrangement right because we'd changed it so many times, and
I didn't sleep before that performance. I was just and
also I was happy with how it went afterwards, but
I was about to cry myles out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Did you ever get sick during the weeks?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I just kept drinking a lot of water. I did
feel bad a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think everybody at some point has to deal with
some sort of illness or being run down which drops
your immune system, so then you get sick. So at
some point and I would just be like, don't even
tell people, just suck it up and you feel a
lot worse than you sound. Generally when people would perform sick,
but everybody's so worried, but they'd be like, well, I'm sick.
I like, don't even say it. Just go out and
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do your best because it's going to seem like you're
making an excuse. Yeah, but everybody gets sick on that show, yeah,
because they just run you. It's like boot camp for music.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
It really really is.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
What do you do when it's over? Like what's the
first thing when you finally get to come back.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It was wild because I flew home on my birthday
and after after the show?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Are you crushed because you didn't win?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I wasn't. I think it was just the motion of
it all. Like I was so happy for him, and
like getting off the stage and I remember like us
walking back to the trailer and I saw my mom
and dad as I was walking, and I like, I
just hugged him and everything, and it was just they
were just like like everything's okay. I'm like, like I'm
not worried about it, Like it's all gonna be fine.
(27:14):
And then we packed up our stuff and hopped on
a plane and went to New York And that was
my first time in New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
What were you doing in New York press?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We're doing press. So I didn't have any sleep and
I had my makeup on from the finale mayor and
it was the same and just walked in and changing
the bathroom of the interviews.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Why'd you do anything cool? Any?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, we did Good Morning America, which was so freaking
cool and Kelly and Rhan and so it was just
so neat getting to do that, and then immediately hopped
on a flight and didn't even know it was my
birthday and got back in the airport and I'm wearing
all my you know, finale gear, and people are coming
up and be like, oh my god, happy birthday. And
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I didn't think anybody would know, Like I know, we've
been in a bubble for so long, Like I don't
nobody's gonna know me, and people are like coming up
and taking pictures, and that's when I realized things it'd
like changed.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Why one word hunter girl? Why?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I know?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And I've heard the story. You know, you were the
only or whatever the version is, you were the only
uner in your class. It was a girl. But what
as a stage name and one word like all that
came together and you decided on it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
When why just because that's what everybody called me growing
up and my last name was walking Awski eleven letters
pretty rough, but I feel like that just part of me,
especially right now, and like, hey, hunter girl, Like, how
are you doing? That's what my Paul would call me.
And so whenever I come up on stage and have
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the name that a lot of people called me when
I was growing up, it kind of always just reminds
me of home. That's how I feel when I think
of it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Did I don't say anything to you about just going
by one name? Weirdly? Were they like, are you sure
you want to do this?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Uh? Like I think somebody had like mentioned it. They're like,
do you want to do hunter walking Awski? And I
was like, I think I want to be think I'm
gonna be hunter girl one word and they're like, that's cool.
People will remember it, and they were like, just go
for it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
People do remember. I remember going, oh, this girl's got
one name. I didn't even know what it was about.
I was like, this is cool, Like that's how I
was again. I was checking out the show I'd Adventures,
but you you never know who they're going to keep
on that show. I watched them edit people and like
two people in, but only to cut them out later,
but they'd already been eliminated, Like for for drama. So Hunter, though,
(29:26):
is your name? I remember asking I know the answer,
but I remember asking you this in the same way,
like what do I call you? Your friends call you that.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
My friends call me hunter like my like my Paul
will still he still calls me hunter girl, just because
that's what he always did. But my friends call me
hunter and uh. But on stage, it's like I kind
of get to separate myself a little bit. It's like
the Hunters going home and enter Pj's. But whenever I'm
on stage, I get to be Hunter girl.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What I would like for you to go back and
talk about, just for a second, when you talk about
writing with the veterans, which is how you and I
ended up together that night we were doing some veterans
stuff that operate together. Yeah, explain like what that is.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So I started writing writing with veterans when I was
about seventeen.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And why why would you write with veterans?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
My grandfa, my grandpa's in the service, and six of
my great uncles and I just got involved in. I
was just volunteering and singing songs for the people that
were writing the songs with the veterans. And so it's
always been something like meant a lot to me and
just seeing how much it like it affected my family too.
And basically what we do is we get in a
room with a veteran and we write their story about
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whatever they want to talk about, whether it's like something
in the service or somebody they miss or anything. And
it's kind of therapeutic in a way for them to
get to tell their story. And honestly, like, whenever I've
been in that room, it's like, you know, I'm lucky
enough to write a song every day, but this is
their first time that they get to feel that whatever.
Like it just makes me remember just like how good
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songwriting is for the soul. And I've written with gold
Star kids and gold Star families and so I've been
doing that consistently since I was about seventeen and still
do it. I had one a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Really, Yeah, when you finish Idol in that version that
season and you come back here, how do you get restarted?
And are there people now that are actually gonna take
your calls that didn't it before you left?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah? So I got back into town and You're like,
I wasn't guaranteed to deal or anything. I was like,
I don't really know what's gonna happen. And I was like,
I was little with my grandma before I got on
the show, and so I was like, Okay, I need
have like a place to live. Like I went back
home with my family for a while, and I was like,
but I got to get back because I already had
people wanting to write on that Monday, and I was like,
So I went home that weekend, saw my family. I
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was like, I need to get an apartment. I'm gonna
say with grandma for a little bit, and I need
to write songs because I was like, I need to
put music out. And so I started writing songs on
like two days later and just hit the ground running.
And then I got a call because I had a
book and agent. That's the book and agent had picked
me up, and so they called and they were like, hey,
do you have a band, And I was like, yeah,
of course I have a band, like because they were like,
(32:04):
we have a show like next week, and I did
not have a band, and so I was pretty calling
my friends It's like, can you be my band please?
And so I just kind of just bootstrap and everything.
And later on that year I ended up getting signed
to Broken Bow and BMG for publishing, and which is
the place that I wanted to be since I got
to town.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's really cool. Yeah, Tennessee Girl. Six songs, six songs, right, Yeah,
I think so. Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I think pretty sure too. I'm pretty sure six songs.
It's a EP, so is it too? Is this just
because I think it came out this summer?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
But is this is going to be part of a
larger project already working on something new now?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I think it'll be something new now. This was kind
of my first, like I would say, body of work
since Idle, and I really wanted to take my time,
like I put out a few singles, but I wanted
to figure out like who I was after the show
and get to kind of explore that more and what
I wanted my sound to be at that point. And
I think now working on new music and I've been
back in writing songs and getting to use my creative
(33:05):
brain since my touring has kind of coming to an
end at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's so hard to use touring branding creative brain at
the same time. Oh, it's it's so hard do it.
I'm like Wow, good for you. Yeah, Like if I
was like writing a book or even writing funny, I
just it was hard for me to do one really well.
If I was trying to do the other, well, environment
that doesn't feel good, not comfortable. So that's cool. You're
back and you're now focused on writing. Who is the Like,
(33:32):
what was it? Give me the coolest show you did
this year? Well, in with this, all the cool shows
you got to do, with.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The coolest shows, I think the coolest show that I
got to do was in Guildford, New Hampshire with the
Louke Bryant tour, And that was like the coolest thing
that I've ever gotten to be a part of in
my life. Like, his team is so awesome and he's
obviously incredible, and my family got to come up and
they got to see that, and they got to talk
to Luke and got to hang out with the band
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and got to sit side stage and just getting like
letting them like get to be a part of that
after all the work they've done was really cool.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, Luca is a plus.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah in everywhere he rocks. Like the food was incredible,
Luke good catering, Oh my god, the catering was so good.
I was like, I was tired of beating gas station
jerky and the chips, and I was like, oh my god,
there's like tomato soup here.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That is a delicacy to people.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
All I know and is that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, you guys, follow Hunter Girl music, check out Tennessee Girl,
anything on when when's anything new coming out? You know,
there didn't have to be a date. But what are
you hoping for?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Dot dot dot?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
But I would out hope by like started next year.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'd say, well, thank you for the time.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, you're like you're you're just generally good at this
type thing.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Oh, thank you. I like, I just like talking. I
never shut up, I think, And.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That's a big part of it. I mean it really is.
But also we have something to say when you do it.
Like I remember telling you, like, hey, you're really good
at this is the right carpet? Like I think you
know you're really good. You're a really good singer. I
have no idea good if a songwriter you are, because
I don't I've never sign a room with you. Yeah,
I'm sure you're fine, are good or great or terrible?
I don't know that part, but I can tell you
if you're a great singer and you're really good at this. Oh,
thank you, so like do this too. I would love
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to do this somehow, like be a be a person,
be because you have a really magnetic personality. You're really
warm and likable.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, and you and you speak with a bit of
authority on yourself where it feels like you're confident but
not cocky or fake confident, which means you're extremely insecure.
I just value it your whole psychologically. But I really
give in whatever you want to do. You have a
really really bright future ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So congratulations in the music part. You're really good at
this part, which is annoying to me. It took me
forever to be good. And I'm sure I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, i'd love that. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Good to see it.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Also, thank you for that book because I read it?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
What the fail until you don't you read that book?
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I read the book? Yeah? Why because because like i'd
watch like, all y'all you really read that. I read
the book.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, but I guess that's like the biggest compliments ago
now possibly good? No, thank you, Wow, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Thanks helped me through some rough stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
If you're lying, who cares? Don't know?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I think you promise I wouldn't lie.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's awesome. I want to do just to do it well.
And I wasn't complimenting you because I knew that either. No,
but you know you're awesome and I'm sure I will
see you soon at hundred Girl Music and until the
new stuff comes out, check out Tennessee Girl and that'll
do it. Thanks, Honn, thank you.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, Wow,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Did you see the list of the greatest pop Stars
of the twenty first century? Because if so, I can't
ask you these questions, but we can talk about it.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
No, I don't think I saw a list on that.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
So it's from two thousand and one in Billboard and
it ended up being a bit controversial. But they want
controversy in these lists because this is how to get
people to click and talk about it. I mean, if
you put out a universal US that everybody agreed with,
people would look how to go Yeah, cool, cool, move on,
keep on scrolling. But they did put out the greatest
pop stars, and I have the top twenty five of
the two thousands to today.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I'm gonna I'm not gonna ask you to try to
name every one, but who do you think for sure
makes the list? Taylor Swift, so correct, she's in the
top five. And I won't tell you exactly where Beyonce
same in the top five. So you've nailed You've nailed
the top two.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Okay, okay, what order would you.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Put that in?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I would put Taylor first and then Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Every normal human in the whole world would Billboard did not.
I saw that that. I thought, Yeah, Taylor is easy.
Taylor's easily number one. Yes, and Beyonce is easily number two,
easily like Rick. But Taylor's selling football stadiums. I mean,
if you just look at all the data, it's easily
Taylor Swift. But again, if you put Taylor at two,
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it creates all the headlines and all the stories, and
right you get all the seeing people like us talking
about it. So they have Beyonce at one Taylor at two.
I think any normal rational person would have flipped them around.
Even if you're a massive Beyonce fan, I still think
you go, let's be honest, Taylor is one. Taylor is
the most famous person maybe in our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Oh, I completely agree, She's our Elvis.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm talking about more than just music though, Like Donald
Trump is probably there, but I think Taylor, there's probably
three or four people. You could have the debate. I
think Taylor's probably the most famous person of our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I always love to gauge it on, like do my
parents know Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
And it's tough because like Barack Obama would be on
the list now he's a president, but there's like I
don't think Joe Biden is one of the most famous
people of our lifetime. Oh, and just being a president
doesn't make you famous, like culturally, there has to be
something about you as well. Yeah, so their lists Beyonce one,
Taylor too, he gets tricky. There are a lot and
you don't have to get three. I just put people
on the list.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think we have to go us
in Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Right, justin Temple Lacks at fourteen. Now, I don't know
that I would have got to him so quick, but
two thousands, I guess was coming out of the boy
band era of the nineties early two thousands.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Okay, and bringing sexy back. He dominated, and then he
kind of just slowly kind of disappeared a little bit
while other people took the spotlight. But for a minute there,
justin Timberlake was the dude.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah for a minute, but a lot of that was
nineties into early two thousands. Okay, but he's at fourteen.
Go ahead, So.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I'm gonna go Brittany too. Britney spears. Since it's two thousands,
on it's six.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Now, Brittany would probably be the second most famous pop
star of our life, and Beyonce probably third famous. Beyonce
bigger than Brittany for sure in the past twenty years.
But Brittany's at six. Just any pop star you think
it makes the list? Rihanna at number three? Rihanna?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Wow, she got number three. Yeah, that's cool. Let's see.
Let's see. I'm gonna stick back to like the early
early years. So let me go Christina Aguile.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I'm gonna bet no chance. But she's I mean, she's
been quite irrelevant for a while. Let me look, she
did not make the list.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Okay, she get no list.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think part of Brittany's lasting is that she just
stayed famous.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, even in headlines you're just famous.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, you get two more strikes. Now, when I say
pop star, it can be anybody that got extremely popular.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Okay, not just musicians.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
No, no, that is a pop star. But I'm saying
if they were in the pop format. There's a lot
of genres in the pop format. Harry Styles, surely he's
on here. Let me look, he's got to be on there.
I don't think he's on here. Strike two pretty well, Mike,
would you? I don't know that I count one direction
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in Harry Style. I think. I also think Eddie's a
little old for this list, But I wondered who he was.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I was going to get there. I was going to
get there too with some of the younger kids.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
No see if you even call them kids and they're
like thirty years old. So I can't give you one direction.
But one direction didn't make the list.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Quick, okay. Ariana Grande, for sure, she.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Made it at nine. So far you've gotten three, four, five,
you've getten six out of twenty five.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Olivia Rodrigo probably a.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Little too young. If I if I'm getting oh my gosh, yeah,
I'm gonna.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Go too young.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
I try to go too cool.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Rina Carpenter this upcoming artist you don't know of yet
called x X one. Uh no, no, is that three strikes?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
That's three?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, that's three. Hey, Abby, put Abby's headphones on. It'd
be interesting to do this. That's what Abby can do.
What hey, hey, we're recording this segment here with Eddie.
And have you seen the list of Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars?
Speaker 6 (41:35):
No? I haven't.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Okay, they're twenty five. It's Billboard's greatest pop Stars since
the year two thousand. Oh dang, Eddie, before he got
three strikes? He got six, right, not very many, so
greatest pop. So all I'm gonna say is Billboard put
the list out of greatest pop stars of the twenty
first century, so of two thousand on.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Oh my gosh, it's it's a.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Lot, but it should be. Also, it's pretty wide net
to be pretty easy. Top twenty five. How many can
you name before you get three strikes?
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Go ahead, let's see Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Okay, Beyonce is boom? Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Taylor Swift too good, that's two, justin Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Three, that's my order. Olivia Rodrigo too young? Yeah, really well,
only because she hasn't been around long enough that's true. Yeah,
so you've got three and you get one strike.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
This is hard Bruno Mars.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Correct number two?
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Good?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Number twenty is Bruno Mars really? Okay, it's four.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Gosh, I was gonna say, Michael Jackson, that's a little
too early.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Right, I'm not answering your question for you to guess it.
So if you say it, that's gonna be an X
or not an X. But since the year two thousand.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
No, no, not him two thousand. Yeah, Michael Jackson, No, no.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
No, no, I'm over here.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
You're gonna you're gonna lose daddy.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Okay, see one more striking a pop artist. This shouldn't
be that hard. No, and you're Britney Spears.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Correct, stand by, I know Britney's on here. She's as six, one, two, three,
You need one more just to win. Christina Aguilar, No,
that Eddie said that too, No, because she really didn't
do much in the two thousands, like she had her
hits in the nineties, a little bit in the early
two thousands.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
And take it back, take it back, bones. I'm not
too old for this list.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Okay, Okay, you're too old.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
Ivy suck.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
When I read these you guys are gonna be like duh.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
I thought, well she was guessing. I thought Usher is usher.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
On there hush ushers eleven. Yeah, so you have Katy
Perry of course yeah, dang ed Sheeran, Yes, where it
hurts someone like you. Eddie is like the biggest streamer
in the world. Is this person? And you would have
never guessed him. He's always top three sometimes some.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Years biggest streamer.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, he's his song stream more than anybody else's and
sometimes some years he's number one, some years he's top three.
But you would never guess this person. And I think
it's an age thing.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Let's see who is it. I'm asking if you, oh,
I have no club biggest streamer.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
If I say biggest streamer, but I bet you don't
know a single one of their songs.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Oh really, you.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Would know who they are because they've been in pop
culture news. They've even dated somebody very famous, and you
might know their song, but you might know a song
or two. I don't know. Eddie doesn't. There's no chance
I don't know a song.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I can't I don't know a song.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Is it Machine Gun Kelly?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
It is not Mi do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Do you have the list or you just know I
have the list? And so listen to this artist.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Okay, you listen to this artist.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Post alone, Bad Bunny, Oh Bad, Buddy one, Direction twenty two,
twenty one, law Wayne twenty, Bruno Mars nineteen, BTS, Oh
God to go K Pop on that one. Think about
those guys edy you wouldn't another one though, that is
usually up in that string. And he may be the
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most streamed artist of all time, but I think one
of his songs is the most stream song is the Weekend.
Oh yeah, yeah, I think about super Bowl players too, right.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Yeah, yeah, we just saw him too at iHeart.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
He was good, we did. I don't think. I don't
think I saw.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
He was on this platform almost like he was the
king of all of these people. And it must have
been like, I don't know, seventy people like just all
in robes under him.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Small kingdom.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, I mean, this is kingdom of seventy. It was weird,
but he did the whole show from the very very top.
Never moved.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
That happened at iHeart.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Yeah, it was the last It was like the closer.
So you must have left early.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Oh, I never say for the closer, I'm tired, it's
the last, especially if it's a Friday show. I'm dead tired. Yeah, Shakira,
jay Z, Miley Cyrus, Dang Miley, Oh my gosh, Justin Timberlake,
Nicki Minaj, Yeah, she was big, eminem I sure, Adele.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
Okay, I did bad.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I we both did. It's all good.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Yeah, how did we do so bad?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Those are really obvious, actually, Ariana Grande. Justin Bieber Bieber,
which the big controversy. The story that came out was
Hailey Bieber was mad because they put Justin Bieber at eight,
and I think I would have put Justin Bieber above eight.
I think when you read the list back, I tell
you where I put him with Kanye's at seven, Brittany's
at six, guy guys at five, Drakes at four. You
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guys didn't hit Drake at all.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
He did in.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
The Rihanna at three, Taylor Swift at two, Beyonce at one.
I think I would have put Bieber at three or
four when it comes to just overall pop.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Stars, and Beyonce did make one on this list.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Beyonce was one, yeah, which I think everybody except the
person who made the list thought it should have been
Taylor Swift. Yeah, so, but I think Bieber the the Rihanna,
Drake three and four those could be flipped around, but
I think Bieber could also jump both of them.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
I would move Drake. I'd put Bieber in Drake.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Spot you put Bieber behind Rihanna. No, no, because it
was it was Taylor, No, Rihanna then Drake.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
I mean it was Beyonce, Taylor, Rihanna, Drake. Yeah, so
I would go beyond Beyonce in this list or whatever, Taylor.
I would swip them, swap them, Taylor, Beyonce, Rihanna, then Bieber, Bieber, Drake.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I think I would go Taylor, Beyonce, Bieber, Drake. Yeah,
Justin Bieber has also been so famous, right, He's had songs,
but he's also been so not. The Realne is not obviously,
and she's had a beauty line. And you're arguing about
the most famous, most successful people ever. But I'm talking
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about like Bieber has been a pop culture staple, like new.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Staple topic conversation.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yes, I mean I've turned your mic out there screaming
in the background, which he just can't walk down the
hall and not yell, oh my God, to turn your
micro first.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
We had a c problem. Now we have lunchbox.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I just like walking down. Yeah, Hayley Bieber, she says
Billboard is a joke for putting Justin at number eight
on their list of greatest pop Stars of the twenty
first century.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
No, Haley, Billboard's a joke for putting Beyonce over Taylor Swift.
That's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well, when the article with Bieber came out, and Hailey Bieber,
they haven't announced two and one yet because they announced
them slowly, like this week they do four to three.
We just waited for the whole list to be out,
got it? But yeah, there you go. I didn't I
wonder if well, no, if I like quiz my wife,
I bet she would get.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
Like twelve Oh yeah, she would dominate this.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
She's also twelve years younger.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
But the fact that you got Abby in here made
me feel a lot better about myself.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Why Abby starts to get nervous. It wasn't even like
she's not even playing a game, really, and she starts
to get nervous and any the village people. Singer denies
that YMCA is a gay anthem I saw this, I
always thought it was a gay song and I loved it.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
And another thing he said that surprised me. He said
that they weren't all gay. I thought that all the
village people, that's they were gay. And he said, I'm
not gay, and my co writers were gay, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, I thought they were all gay too, which is
why I thought that it was a gay anthem, which
I never even it wasn't like every time I played
I was like, oh, here's my favorite gay anthem. Right,
I didn't even think about it being that. I just
thought the village people are gay and this is like
a song they play at like gay bars. And then
sports picked it up. Sure, didn't really no, didn't really care. Yeah,
(49:22):
and I definitely thought, yes, yes, Like every time you
listen to it, you're like, god, song, so good, and I
don't think, Wow, this is a gay anthem.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
No, I don't think it either.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
But I did think it was a gay anthem mish
type song.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
And then you watch like them perform it, and you
got the cop without the shirt and this, you know,
like all that you're just like, oh, okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Maybe that was like seventy you know, but I was
surprised by that me too, from consequence, which is that
the story we took us from. As for the idea
that YMCA somehow a gay anthem, Willis said, that is
a false assumption based on the fact that my writing
partner was gay and some not all, the village people
were gay. That the first Village People album was totally
(50:00):
about gay life. So I could see where if people
had like a universal feeling the whole album was, that
that song would be and if they thought the whole
band was and the album was.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like if a band comes out
and their first album is all Christian, you assume they're
a Christian band.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Or or all the other music. Yeah, if they have
like eight songs, if they're all Christians and most songs
on the album are Christian music and there's two that
are like secular, assume there are also Christians on great right, Yeah,
I know. I was surprised by this story.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
The assumption is also based on the fact that the
YMCA was apparently being used as some sort of gay hangout,
and since one of the writers was gay and some
of the village people are gay, the song must be
a message to gay people. And it also says young
man and never young woman. Correct, but also that doesn't
sound as good.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
And Mike did think it said.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yo man, yo mann. You did think it was young man?
Was yo man?
Speaker 4 (50:54):
Just learns of them.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
As I stated on numerous occasions, I knew nothing about
the y being hangout for gay's and I wrote the
lyrics to ym and Jacques Moraley, who was gay, never
once dated such to me. What if Jacques really knew
and he just got the other guy to write it.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Well, I'll be honest, Like I grew up in South Texas,
we didn't have YMCA, so the first time I saw YMCA,
I automatically assumed this was.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
The place where the gay people were gay hang out
because of the song. Well, we had YMCA's in Arkansas
and my aunt was a member because it was a
members membership fe we couldnt afford it, but I was
thought it was so cool because that swimming pool and
I remember going and going this is nothing like the song.
I remember. It was like young male Christian young men.
(51:36):
I remember what, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Association, Yeah something like that.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah yeah, So and.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
It's just people work out and swim there. Literally, that's
what they do.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
I therefore wrote YMCA about the things I knew about
the y and urban areas San Francisco, a swimming baseball track,
and cheap food and cheap rooms. And when I say
hang out with all the boys, which it does say
in the song, because hang out with all the boys, right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's the all I'm thinking about. It's simply nineteen seventies
black slang for black guys hanging out together, sports, gambling
or whatever. There's nothing gay about that. Yeah, my mom
(52:10):
is blown me too. I don't like the song any
better or any worse because it was a gay anthem
and it's still a jam. Yeah, and anywhere wedding sports
is it? Is it on the movie Sing?
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Do you remember that? Because Mike, I always think that
if my kids are walking around the house singing classic songs,
they got it from a cartoon. Now.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
I've only seen sing once, Okay, so maybe they do
it in two. I don't know, and I've watched I
don't know. I don't know. I've only seen it once,
but I do know the songs from Singing that I
do know are and it is gotful stuff, Johnny. Yeah,
and then still standing that one, and then in Sing two,
when Bono comes out as the big Lion, they do uh,
(52:53):
they do it. They do a youtwo song. I still
haven't found what I like.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
That part's so cool.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
I do remember it being indespicable of me too, where
the minions did it? Okay, maybe that's it because I
don't remember it from that, but i'd never seen sing
and my nephews like two and A Thanksgiving. They don't
give him a lot of screen time, but when they do,
he's like, oh my god, I get to watch the show.
He's like, and he sits down and focuses on the
TV like he can be run around screaming. And they're like,
(53:21):
you want to watch Sing And it's like, what's.
Speaker 4 (53:23):
Going to be crazy and you're going to see this
at some point with him? Is that you give him
a phone. He'll know how to navigate through the phone.
At two years old. He'll know swipe left, click that,
get that out of here, like all of those conveniands.
It's so easy that, like, really a two year old
can do it.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
What I thought was fun about Singing though, is I
knew the songs right, but I wasn't trying to find
out who was the voice so I would try to
identify them when they would start to sing songs. Because how'
about to know Tory Kelly's voice when she's doing the pic? Sure,
because she was a pig, right, she was the pig.
She was something. Yeah, probably the pig. I've only seen
him once. There was a pig, right, Yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
A pig, the pig. No, she's not a moment like
a bunch of piggies.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Because the pig would like go and sneak off and
like sing by herself because she was shy, and the
pig ended up like having a crush on another pig.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
Tory Kelly was the elephant.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
That's what I mean, the elephant.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Elephant's pink though, No, so who's Jennifer Hudson?
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Hold on, I need to get my fact straight here,
because she would put the Tory Kelly would, I think,
put the headphones on and go on top of the
hill and sing by herselfers, Yeah, that was it, right,
I remember that part. Okay, maybe my color is just
not right.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
And I think she's a mom because isn't that part
of her problem that she like has all these kids.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Now I'm not going to know the answer. Again, I've
seen it once and I really wasn't dialed in at
first until the song started playing because I was like, well,
I don't want to watch that. I actually I was
a little bitter. I had to sit through a Thanksgiving
when there's football on because I'm watching it on my phone.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Now, okay, let's see you got Johnny.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Is Johnny is that? I didn't. I don't know him
as an actor, but it's like Trevin mcclach was, Yeah,
whoever that is? I don't know who that is?
Speaker 4 (55:02):
And then Mina who's the elephant? Is Tory Kelly with
the headphones?
Speaker 2 (55:06):
What color is she? Pink?
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah? Kind of just pinkish gray.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
Scarlett Johansson is the part.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
That's the one that I could not get because she's
an old rocker. She plays a guitar. She wants to
be a rocker.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
And the pig is Rosita and she is Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
I don't remember the pig. I was thinking of the elephant.
I remember the pig, but I remember rees Worth of spoke.
It's sang really good.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Jennifer Hudson is what is that a yak? Yeah? I
think she's a yak.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah. Well, anyway, as you can tell, it's a great movie.
Speaker 5 (55:40):
Though.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Man, I had a good time watching it. When I
looked up when the music was on, I'm so glad
you watched I'm Big Johnny guy though.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
Cool and that was in jail.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
He was like, and then he rips out of jail
so easily. He just rips the wall off and like
jumps off the buses and stuff.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, dude. It's so cool to
like have the kids learn new music through these movies
because you know there's people like us making these movies.
Or old music, that's what I mean, like old classic
songs because like my kids walk around the house singing
and classic songs like how do you know that song?
Like Death Leppard? Oh it's on the Avatar movie. Oh
love it.
Speaker 8 (56:12):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
A similar and not really kids, but like there'll be
music from when we were young, like to not like
nineties rock stuff like the Strokes, yes, some Foo Fighters,
some stuff like that, and it'll come on or even
like MGMT Feel Dun and my wife will know it,
(56:48):
know every word to it, and she'll I'm like, how
do you know that? She's like guitar hero right, rock band,
And I was like, she goes, I wouldn't know those songs,
but like her families to gather around and play the
play rock band. Yea, the drums, Ione have the things?
Is Amy here? Can you come in? I want to
quizer on this list. If she hasn't seen it, nomn
(57:09):
got your need? Did you see the video of them
from MGMT from when they were like in college, Mike,
you've seen it recently? It's going viral again. Oh yeah.
They look like Eddie and I being raging idiots playing
from a little keyboard and they're just jump around on extend
with twelve people watching, and they're playing that song that
it's not you know.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
It's it's massive.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah, oh kids, the same album, but not the same.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
It's a great album.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
They were called The Management at the time. They were
called the Management, yes, not MGMT. I think later it
turned to the MGMT, right, Mike, Yeah, because there was
already a band called The Management. Yeah, Amy, quick quest
for you Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars of the twenty first century,
which is the year two thousand and nine, and Eddie
went first and he only got six Abby then went
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and he got very nervous for no reason because there's
nothing on the line, So and only got six. I'll
give I'll give you other rules. So what it's going
to be is from the year two thousand on. You
only get three strikes the year two thousand on the
Biggest pop Stars period So you're looking for well, I
(58:15):
don't want to give you too much, but that's all
I told them as well.
Speaker 3 (58:17):
Okay, let me ask if they if they broke through
in the nineties, they do not count.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
No, I didn't say that. I can't answer that question.
So it's just from the year two thousand on the
biggest pop Stars of period one through twenty five? How
many can you get?
Speaker 3 (58:31):
And you're on Taylor Swift correct, Rihanna correct, Beyonce correct,
Justin Bieber correct, it's four.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Brittany Spencer, you mean Britney spears.
Speaker 4 (58:42):
No, she said, Spencer, I have Britney.
Speaker 6 (58:48):
I love Ridey Spencer. I have spears written on my
paper right here.
Speaker 4 (58:52):
I can't give that to her.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
B spears written down to me. I have down.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
Don't give it to Abby, she said.
Speaker 6 (59:03):
It was confidence fair enough.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
We know what you meant. We would have to give
you a strike your o, you get one strike, but
you get the Briddy spears. Go ahead, Katy Perry boom
got so far you have six? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (59:15):
Dozen?
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Timber Lake seven?
Speaker 6 (59:17):
Uh, jay Z.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
Eight, she's good. Drake nine, you're not You're not timed,
you're good?
Speaker 6 (59:26):
Oh we're not well. No, No, I wouldn't have said Spencer.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
I never said your time, though.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
I guess I just you know, feel the pressure of
being timed.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Go ahead. So it's pop Pop Pop Billboard's Greatest Pop
Stars of the twenty first century. So two thousand and one,
and you have one too.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Oh, Ariana ten?
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Go ahead? Uh? Selena Gomes, Oh that's a good guess
as No, she didn't make it as a pop star, okay,
Sabrina Carpenter, No, too young, too new? Sorry, what is
the decades? Two thousands? But spinder Cart has been famous
for two years?
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Right, still two thousand, it's still two thousand.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, but you're talking about the most famous from the
last twenty years. So anyway, you killed them, are you done?
Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
I could have kept going cool.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Let's say you let's say you didn't miss Britney Spencer,
so you would have had one more strike.
Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Christine Aguilera.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
No, she'd make it. They both guessed her too. Now
she'd lost fame in like our songs like two thousand,
we all guess her three or four or something. Uh yeah,
I read this list to them. But ed Sheeran, Yeah,
Bad Bunny, Lol, Wayne Bts the Weekend Miley cyrus NICKI
minaj Adele Adele would have been a big one.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Bad Bunny's tough because I mean he is massive all
over the world.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Also dated Kardashian, but I still won.
Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Oh yeah, they saw you dominated how mad she get?
Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
Like I was.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
You know what I was doing. I was trying to
think that more. I was just thinking, that's almost one hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
It was doubled.
Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
You about what I was thinking back to, like twenty
ten when I used to do two hour show after
the Bobby Bone Show, and I was thinking of every
artist we played.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Eddie guests like Lionel Ritchie.
Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
No, I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Nellie Vanilli. You were like, dude, you need.
Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
To get when we were pop because we were pop.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
They guess Olivia Rodrigo, but again too not enough of
a sample size, like three years.
Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I get it now, I guess Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
She did get Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Okay, and that would be the biggest of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Addie Abby also had a freak out too that she
thought she if she lost, she was going to get like.
Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
I feel the pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
There was no pressure. It was literally, Hey, we'd be curious.
We'd be curious to know what you think, not tell
us what you think or die.
Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
I wanted to be Eddie to be.
Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Or be first.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Okay, thank you guys, Thank you guys for listening to
the Bobby Cast. But if you don't mind if you
go give us a little review, that would be cool
and like moves us up the algorithm. If you don't
mind sharing it on your Instagram story, like, hey, this
was a great episode and tag me.
Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
That would be grea.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I'd love to see it and and hit you back
with the heart or something. All that matters and growths
of podcasts. So if you guys don't mind doing that, that
will be awesome. Thank you very much and I hope
you guys have a good rest of the week.
Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
By everybody, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production
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